a boo boo booo boo bah
a weee weee weee wah
Oh hey there…just ignore the baby talk its not for you…Its for this little cutie
Adorable isn’t he!
These little Corozar Bay Moon Babies are the cuties things in the universe
a boo boo boo bah…(Wedge shakes a rattle)
Mine? No no. I picked this little guy up and about 3000 more as my latest weapon.
You see, the idea is you land on an unsuspecting planet you want to destroy and you give them the “please take my baby” bit. Who can resist? Look how adorable he is with his big sad eyes. Then you fly off and leave the baby behind.
Then after dark…
Its a whole different baby
On average A Corozar Bay Moon Baby can eat about 60 square miles, inhabited or not, in a 48 hour period. Pretty impressive! These little guys have a rabid appetite.
So you have to make a few landings on the planet of you want it devoured within a week.
These babies and there appetite remind me of the attacking linebacker I want the Dolphins to draft.
Deion Jones is one of those linebackers.
The LSU Linebacker was a force for the Tigers in 2015.
Its easy to miss talent like Jones on a talented team like LSU.
LSU puts so much talent in the NFL you should not overlook anyone on their roster.
The 6’1 222 pund linebacker might seem small to some, but that did not stop him from racking up 100 tackles, 13.5 for a loss.
That was his only year starting for LSU. Jones didn’t start until Kwon Alexander left for the NFL in 2015. Hey Kown Alexander? Didn’t I do a scouting report on him last year?
Yep! And ironically many scouts compare Jones to Alexander.
At the combine Jones caught the attention of the NFL by running a 4.59 40 yard dash.
He also had a 33 inch vertical jump and a 120 inch broad jump at the combine.
But it was his pro day that really set him apart and has him moving up[ the boards.
Deion Jones ran a blazing 4.38 40 yard dash at his pro day. WOW!
He also upped his vertical jump by 2 1/2 inches and did 18 reps on the bench press.
I know some Dolfans are looking forward to drafting Jones on day 3 of the draft.
But the secret is out.
I’m expecting Deion Jones to be drafted by the time round 3 is over.
So if the Dolphins want this attacking linebacker – they will have to make that move early.
Just like the people who adopt this adorable baby should get the fuck off their planet before it gets dark!
If Deion Jones was an alien weapon of destruction…
he would be the deadly Corozar Bay Moon Baby!
Lookout NFL!
You can watch Jones against Florida here:
Finsmob Unleashed 
steve,
I just think the NFL is gonna get even more tough on hard hits as the years go on. They just don’t want it anymore. Possibly causing alligator arms here or there isn’t worth 15 yards and the risk of losing a player yo ejection and/or suspension. WRs know they can’t be hit anyway. Short arming throws doesn’t happen a lot anymore for that reason.
Randy and Lou might be having a candle light moment. It’s all good. LOL
LOL
YOUR TEAM
MIAMI DOLPHINS
YOUR PICKS
1: R1P13 CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER CLEMSON
2: R2P11 OT GERMAIN IFEDI TEXAS A&M
3: R3P10 ILB KENTRELL BROTHERS MISSOURI
4: R4P9 CB HARLAN MILLER SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA
5: R5P8 RB KELVIN TAYLOR FLORIDA
6: R6P11 S ELIJAH SHUMATE NOTRE DAME
7: R7P6 ILB CASSANOVA MCKINZY AUBURN
8: R7P10 WR HUNTER SHARP UTAH STATE
You too with the 2 CBs in the 1st 4 rounds?!?!
Other than that I like your early picks
9 days 13 hours 11 minutes until the Draft!
Whooop wooop. I am off to work have a great day guys!
Randy says:
April 18, 2016 at 10:56 pm (Edit)
Check this out. I just talked to a friend of mine whose son is a friend of Wentz. She said they are working out contract details right now, and he will be the number 1 pick if they can agree to terms. Had that been announced? Can the first team still negotiate ahead of the draft?
*****
It’s legal in the NFL
In fact, I think we did it with Jake Long
Although I think we had to ask permission
That is correct.
The pork is never foul
My uncle’s cousin’s nephew’s mother-in-law’s boyfriend is friends with Goff, and he said that they are negotiating with Goff already.
Wentz will be the pick, he has the bigger upside.
Also agreeing on a contract shouldn’t be difficult with the rookie contract rules.
LOL @ Mike.
Tim
I think Wentz will be the pick too, but I never bet against my uncle’s cousin’s nephew’s mother-in-law’s boyfriend though. lol
LOL
use you jew connection and get some insider info from the agent! 🙂
Tim
We absolutely loved Stevens. It’s funny, neither my son or wife even wanted to look at it, but now it’s at the top of the list. We were very impressed with the school. Besides the school itself, the campus is beautiful, the view is outstanding, and it’s very cool to be right in Hoboken.
I’m sure it is. Why didn’t you want to look at it?
I did, my wife and son didn’t. They were both under the impression that the school was really only about engineering and technology, and my son is interested in their business program, although now that we got to see all the different programs they offer, he was interested in one of their engineering programs too, as well as a couple of the business programs.
Have you guys consider Hofstra? Their business program is pretty good. Engineering is good, like top 50 from what i have seen but business program is their main thing.
D
My Jew connections are weak now, I’ve been kicked out of the club since we don’t go to temple anymore. lol
damn man we needs those info’s!
Mike, what is your son focusing on career wise more specific than just business?
There were a few programs in the business school, one was Quantitative Finance, and also there was an Information Systems program. Then in the school of Systems and Enterprises, there’s an Engineering Management program. I think there was another program on the business side too that I can’t remember. As far as careers, Business Analyst, System Engineers and Analysts, Industrial Engineer. Something along those lines.
is name was Clyde
and I am fully aware that the humans slaughtered poor ole Clyde
Mike E. says:
April 19, 2016 at 8:36 am (Edit)
My uncle’s cousin’s nephew’s mother-in-law’s boyfriend is friends with Goff, and he said that they are negotiating with Goff already.
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Don’t be surprised if this is half true
The only weird part is the family tree….lol
But if Wentz is the 1st pick by the Rams – which he is
and the Rams do what we did with Long and let everyone know wentz is the pick
than the Browns can begin to get the pieces in place to draft Goff
there’s not a lot to negotiate with rookie contracts after the new CBA is in place
But I’m curious to know if the NFL would permit the Rams to announce the Wentz pick
and the Browns to announce the Goff pick
There is a rumor that the Eagles might be moving up to get the #2 pick from the Browns
which throws this into whack a little
and the Eagles are only moving from #8 to #2 – so its not a huge move or a huge move back for the Browns
but either way
the draft appears to b shaping up to
1. Wentz
2. Goff
Ramsey and Tunsil will still probably be top 5
then you have: Bosa, Jack, Buckner, Stanley who I think are certain to be top 10 guys
So I have 8 of the top 13 that I think will be off the board when we pick
The 2 QBs, Bosa, Jack, Buckner and Stanley
Then you have the next set of players that may fall to 13
Hargreaves, Elliot, Floyd, Rankins, Lee, Ragland, Lawson & Conklin
I’m hoping Rankins goes before 13
bc the rest of that group is a legit option for us
Cleveland apparently shopping the number 2 spot now.
I hope they dont do it, but with what they say about TBaum, do you think he would be so bold as to trade up to 2 and take a guy like Ramsey?
No – you go to #2 for a QB
it will be a QB hungry team who likes Goff
If they trade it
gonna be Philadelphia or SF to draft Goff
D
He didn’t apply to Hofstra, although it is a good school. Too late now brother, he has to make his decision by May 1st.
I think I mentioned, he had some regrets about not applying to more top level schools, he thought he should have researched better and applied to a higher tier of college. Out of the ones he applied to, and got into, I think Stevens and Drexel are the two best, followed by Rutgers.
I have a friend that graduated from Rutgers with business mba. He was regional big wig for frito-lay then he took job with nabisco where he was running all florida then he transferred to puerto rico. Haven’t talked with him in ages but he did very well with degree from rutgers
Ok thats cool, i just wanted to mention it again, it looked like you guys were scrambling for some schools for last minute application. Looked like your criteria was close by, good business school, with solid engineering as an alternate. It seemed like a close fit to those criteria. Hopefully he winds up wherever is best and he has the most desire to go. College is such a great time in your life you just want the best for them when they make that decision.
I didn’t know there was a school in Hoboken
That would be a great town to be a college student in
Yeah Stevens is right on Washington Street in the hub of party town.
The campus is right along the water, right across from you in NYC. The view is fantastic.
The Flying Pig says:
April 19, 2016 at 9:51 am
If they trade it
gonna be Philadelphia or SF to draft Goff
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I think thats the most logical, but i could also see a defensive starved team potentially trading up for Ramsey, since i think he is one of those really elite level guys you dont have a shot at in many drafts.
love Ramsey
but I think trading up for a DB is unlikely
Its usually QB when its a trade up
If I were the Saints I would take a serous look at Paxton Lynch to develop behind Drew Brees who is near the end of his career
Lynch is really raw but a situation like that playing behind a great QB like Brees realy might work well for him
Depends on how they feel about Garrett Greyson whom they took in the 3rd round last year. That was one of those take a shot on a talented guy to grow behind Brees things, if they like his development Greyson is that prototypical pro style passer that might make into a really great replacement already. I dont think they take a guy like Lynch unless Greyson just hasnt shown any indication he can take over in a couple of years. Brees still getting it done, so if i were them id eval Greyson another year and then go big at QB next year if i decided to give up on him.
jetssuck – Rutgers is a definitely a good school as well, no doubt. As you know, college is what you make of it too. If you work hard and push yourself, and put yourself out there and make contacts, you’ll succeed no matter where you go.
This is true, i think the college you go to may give you a leg up, open a few doors, maybe even buy you some adjustment time, but you succeed on merit, not the school you went to.
Hmm he will be close to a place called the spotted pig….relative of yours piggy?
me hipster jerk who thinks he is cooler than the other pigs because he has spots.
Mike E, I think part of the Stevens campus is right on Washington Street. Hoboken is basically surrounded by the Hudson.
I think there are a couple of buildings in the actual town of Hoboken. The dorms and most of the buildings are secluded from the city, but I did see a few buildings in the city too.
Yeah I remember there being a part of it right on the main drag and that is where I went to a party that time back in the 90s.
Piggy, if you look at Ramsey as a guy who can be a CB/S/Nickel LB rover type which is what he was at FSU, you have a unique every down defender who can be an impact player every week. I wouldn’t second guess trading up for him. Like I’ve said before, we’re built to compete the next 2 years, not to stockpile for years from now.
I would be all for Ramsey
but I’m just saying you don’t usually see a trade up early in the draft for a DB
There aren’t usually DBs like him available.
13: R1P13
OLB DARRON LEE
OHIO STATE
42: R2P11
DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN
MICHIGAN STATE
73: R3P10
G JOSHUA GARNETT
STANFORD
107: R4P9
CB D.J. WHITE
GEORGIA TECH
147: R5P8
RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS
ARKANSAS
186: R6P11
ILB ANTONIO MORRISON
FLORIDA
227: R7P6
S KAVON FRAZIER
CENTRAL MICHIGAN
231: R7P10
C MIKE MATTHEWS
TEXAS A&M
This draft emphasizes speed up front on defense early in the draft
FYI if you don’t know Matthews my last pick is from a famous football family
I don’t like the Lee pick. I think he’s a big reach at #13, and won’t give you much this year or ever for that matter. Otherwise, well done.
Every time I read about a player coming out
I read about another family connection to the NFL
Everyone is the son or nephew of a former player this year
Its crazy how much the NFL has become a family affair
but its also really ironic
Does it strike anyone as odd that in a time when the NFL is concerned about concussions and long term brain damage
And whether kids will play in the high school football or earlier
People keep saying kids aren’t playing anymore
but the former players are grooming their kids to come into the league
Whoooooahhhh Mike
If you think Darron Lee is a reach at 13, you haven’t been reading too many big boards
He’s probably unlikely to be on the board at 20
10-19 is right in his wheelhouse
I think if we draft him he’s a starter
and will contribute right away
I also think a player like Deion Jones, who can be had a few round slater, is very comparable to Lee…and that’s my criticism of the pick
Lee is actually ranked higher by most than Ragland (your guy) and IMO is just as likely to crack the starting lineup as him
although I think Ragland is more polished and ready to go
But Lee’s athleticism far surpasses Ragland
Randy says:
April 18, 2016 at 10:56 pm
Check this out. I just talked to a friend of mine whose son is a friend of Wentz. She said they are working out contract details right now, and he will be the number 1 pick if they can agree to terms. Had that been announced? Can the first team still negotiate ahead of the draft?
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I read Mike E’s follow up comments to this and wondered if anyone here saw the movie “Unfinished Business” staring Vince Vaughn? LOL
For those who don’t get it
“The fluffer is the pre-determined loser, designed to keep the pre-determined winner in competitive check.”
Out this morning just in time for this blog entry topic on LB
We have to get a starting caliber CB and Guard out of this draft IMO for it to be successful.
Piggy
I think Lee is a real fast guy who will run around and get washed out of most plays. People have fallen in love with his athleticism, not the player he is. We’ll see who the more productive pro player is, Lee or Ragland. I’d bet heavy on Ragland
I think he’ll develop into a really good WOLB. Based on where his game is at he should be a 2nd rd pick.
He won’t be a 2nd RD pick though, he probably will go before Ragland, somewhere in the top 15. It’s all about potential with him though.
Yeah I agree. I would take Ragland over Lee.
The Jets will probably take Lee if he’s there.
He doesn’t fit their 3-4 scheme. Lee is really the prototype 4-3 WOLB. He’s not a pass rusher. Ragland would be a better pick for them as a 3-4 ILB.
Fuck Lee…..That is all!
LOL
Al in MIA says:
April 19, 2016 at 11:06 am
Randy says:
April 18, 2016 at 10:56 pm
Check this out. I just talked to a friend of mine whose son is a friend of Wentz. She said they are working out contract details right now, and he will be the number 1 pick if they can agree to terms. Had that been announced? Can the first team still negotiate ahead of the draft?
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I read Mike E’s follow up comments to this and wondered if anyone here saw the movie “Unfinished Business” staring Vince Vaughn? LOL
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Yes i have. Its kinda disturbing. It seems to be a trend with movies having full on dick scenes as a form of comedic shock value. Granted i thought the movie was really funny, and overall i liked it, but it did have a little more dick than my general movie preference. I have a really strong 0 dick preference.
So you’ve been catching a lot of ween movies lately? LOL
I’ve seen some of that movie, don’t remember seeing the dick scenes.
LOL @ you wannabe GM’s that keep saying Wentz will be the #1 pick. Don’t be such Kiper’s! smh
Randy said he knows someone close to Wentz and she said they’re talking contract details now.
I saw that, and your point is?
What I passed a long. If what Randy said is true then you have your answer. LOL
I think its possible that Lee is the pick
so if he is, you guys better sweeten up to the idea
If we are playing a wide 9, I think it would help a lot if we added speed in the front 7 and that is part of the reason why Lee would be a valuable pick
Taking Lee wouldn’t bother me. I’d be concerned he’s not ready to play the bulk of the snaps and will rotate with other LBs, but the pick wouldn’t bother me like it will others. That said I don’t think he’d be BPA.
The guy had over 140 tackles in 2 years at Ohio State, an obvious big time program
I think he is a little more NFL ready than you are giving him credit for
He’s only a sophomore and I think that is the difference between more polished prospects
but I’m not even sure there is a big drop off there
he immediately contributed to Ohio State’s championship run in 2014 and was the defensive mvp of the team that beat Alabama in the playoffs
His predecessor Ryan Shazier is tearing it up for Pittsburgh
and was immediately upon entering the league
I tend to think Ohio State is running a defense that makes the transition pretty smooth
but I hold Alabama and most SEC teams in that same light
I expect Lee’s transition to the pros to be smooth and when you factor in his raw talent
I think he is a better pick than Ragland
I think the top 3 LBs of the draft are
1. Jack
2. Lee
3. Ragland
but the question is do we take a LB or not?
it seems to me that we can pick a productive one up a little later and take a CB there
but I gotta say Ragland over Lee, if they are both options – I’m not sure about that
I think the idea of Ragland being the prototypical MLB that we are missing makes him attractive
but pound for pound, I think Lee is bound to have a bigger impact on defense
I told you all my gut instinct from day 1 was the LA Rams would take Goff.
This is also the reason we see rumors of the Bowns entertaining trade downs because they don’t want Wentz @ #2, they too wanted Goff.
If they trade down, they can still get a QB to groom like Lynch or Cook.
What?
did something change very recently
everyone is saying the Rams are taking Wentz not Goff
Goff is expected to be on the board for the browbs
We’ll see. Most people don’t think Goff has franchise ability but Wentz does.
Don’t fall for the pre-draft rumors.
Piggy, I like Lee more than most here so your post should be for Dbolt etc. The book on him is he shies away from contact and is not polished as a tackler. He gets by on his quickness. Most reports on him consider him a player who needs work but has upside.
You can put me on the list of people who don’t think Lee would be the right pick for us.
I too can’t see or justify Darron Lee @ #13. He could be a potential pro bowler, but it may take 3 years…IMO.
I see other solid OLB’s along the way thru the draft process, that can also become very good players in 3 years.
So does anyone think that Goff will go #1 and not Wentz?
Not sure, but I have to go #2…BBL.
Ya mean besides the delusional GDP? 🙂
It’s like you guys are ignoring everything Lee accomplished at Ohio State by making him out as solely a player with a high ceiling who’s not NFL ready
I think you be hard pressed to make that argument from another 2 year starter on a college powerhouse who won the defensive MVP in the championship game
But in Lee’s case
He wouldn’t help us right away….
I’m lost on that argument
Ohio state is one of the schools that Pittsburgh typically drafts from
I think Pitt is one of the top drafting teams in the NFL
And they often get plays who contribute fast
From 2010-2015 the steelers have taken a buckeye in the first 4 rounds in everyone of of their drafts expect 2013
That’s not a small coincidence
I started out the draft season by talking about teams like the steelers drafting guys from big time schools and getting productivity from it right away
I think Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, FSU, LSU and Florida are some of best teams to draft from
Ohio State is particularly good this year
With Darron Lee leading the way among prospects
I don’t think this guy is too raw to produce in the NFL
Piggy,
I honestly have few guys that I say I want no part of in the draft, but Lee in RD1 is that guy this year. My issue comes down to from what I’ve seen, Eli Apple gets off blocks by OL better than Lee.
Also, I don’t ignore what Lee has done, but I do temper it by looking at the talent collectively on that D which made his job easier. With the talent around him he should be better at getting off blocks than what he is.
The talent in Alabama, especially up from defensively, is pretty impressive as well
It’s not a coincidence
But schools often bring in the best high school prospects
And put out the best NFL players
Ohio state has had some talented teams before and they put out great players
Btw I think Lee is the best player on Ohio States defense
I like him much more than Bosa
I have no idea if what I heard about Wentz negotiating with the Rams is true. Just thought I’d pass it along. It came from the mom of a good buddy of Wentz. Maybe I’m being smoke screened by a 50 year old woman. I never believe anything anybody says. Lol
No only am I ignoring what Lee did at Ohio St., I’m ignoring Piggy’s last 2 posts too. lol
This was on NFL.com
Comparing Lee to Ragland
Good stuff
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000639826/Combine-Face-Off-Von-Miller-vs-Darron-Lee
Both, in one Pigs opinion, can be real assetts to a defense
Ragland I agree. He’ll be a 10yr stalwart for a team.
Why not wait for a guy like Sua Cravens? The Phins seemed high on him too. Brought him in for a visit. I like Deon Jones better than those two anyways.
I like Sua cravens
I don’t think he is the same player as Lee
He’s a bit of a hybrid between safety and lb
But I guess Lee has experience as a safety
But Jones fits that mold too
I can buy an argument to wait on a LB to take a CB or OL in the 1st bc you can get a lb later
But I cant buy the idea that Ragland is a good pick but Lee is not
I just think Lee is a good player
And it appears many others don’t
I didn’t get so much negative feedback when I did a couple of mocks drafting Ragland
I hear ya Piggy. Well, at least you’re not being mocked for Scooby lately. I see you’ve abstained from picking him. 🙂
If you are switching to a wide 9 defense
Doesn’t speed up front make sense?
Honestly, sure tackling and someone who can get off blocks is most important.
Coverage ability is at the top in a wide 9 & today’s short dump off passing games, right up there with tackling, being able to square up the ball carrier.
These young LB’s are going to need time to up their game so it can translate to the NFL caliber of competition.
so given that Ragland is not a notable pass defender are you okay with that pick?
Pig,
The talent at Bama is true, but Ragland gets off blocks and dominated. When a blocker gets to Lee….game over.
Piggy, Ragland and Lee are two very different LBs. Ragland is an inside thumper type and Lee is a WOLB in the Derrick Brooks/Derrick Rodgers mold.
Scouting reports say Lee is an unpolished prospect with upside, it’s not just some of us saying that.
how many scouting reports call Ragland a 2 down guy?
These guys can’t not have something they call a “weakness” in their report
that is just the nature of doing a scouting report
GDP
I picked scooby my mock yesterday
I feel like some people just hate the draft and 💩 On all prospects
Don’t take it personal. I think we just like busting on your personnel. 😉
Just went to lunch to get some sushi and watched a guy knock another guy out in the street. Kind of like UFC when a guy is down and the other guy finishes him off. Nasty!
LOL.
The Wide 9 requires the linebackers to fill the gaps when the defensive line rushes up field
the linebackers have to get to those spots
Piggy, I’m also not in the Ragland # #13 either. He too needs more refinement in the coverage game, but he’s likely being asked to play inside as opposed to Lee on the WILL. So quite a difference there in responsibilities.
But I’m hoping Alonso is going to be back to his rookie type form & begin to show what a VERY talented player he is.
Then as I’ve mentioned before, we can draft a later round LB to groom behind Alonso or as competition on the outside as well.
I think Ragland is fine in coverage. He’s not a guy who’s going to be asked to run 40yds downfield 1 on 1 often. He is perfectly fine in zone coverage. The main thing is if you go against the Pats and they try to go hurry up and run it down your D’s throat, you prevent it w/ Ragland. I personally like the value of a Jones, Brown, Brown and others at WOLB more than that of Lee. All of those guys are elite athletes who get off blocks much better than Lee.
Pretty much what I was saying. But if they think Alonso is fully healthy, then I don’t want to spend #13 on Ragland. Nor do I want to spend #13 on Lee. So that’s my argument.
I rather go BPA with CB, DE, OL in that order….but then that’s not BPA is it? lol
DBolt,
When Alabama had a very good OL in 2014
Ohio State beat them in the sugar bowl
and guess who won the defensive mvp of that game
Darron Lee
I don’t think its fair criticism of Lee
He was very productive in college
against top notch competition like Alabama
I hear the same criticism about most smaller LBs coming out
but this is the new NFL
and these smaller LBs are the new way
so I’m, less concerned about it
I don’t hate ragland but in some ways ragland is a relic of the old NFL
I’ve watched enough of Lee to say he struggles getting off blocks. That’s a big no no for me when it comes to LBs.
I tend to think guys like Lee, Jack, Cravens and Deion Jones are the mold of the new NFL LB
lighter, faster an versatile
Do we need to add a player like that?
(Piggy shrugs)
but I do think it will be an asset and fits what we are trying to do, especially if are trying to shut down an offense like the Patriots run with all that underneath stuff
Hewitt did well in a small sample with that very thing you’re proposing against NE. Vigil showed improvement too. We also got Jenkins.
This may be also why we don’t go with Lee @ #13…IMO.
I don’t think it’s the type of LB but whether a guy is technically sound or not.
Pretty good summation Tim.
Would love to try to convince you guys that Darron Lee is a good pick all day
but I have work to do
I prefer a spirited debate on LBs so much more than Trump, Tannehill or who FFRob has chained to his sofa.
Good stuff
see you guys later
Trump in a landslide in the Big Apple!
Cruz camp to sneak in behind his back later to bribe delegates…..LMAO
So I propose
Darron Lee with the 1st
and Jeremy Cash with the 2nd
and then Deion Jones in the 3rd round
That way we have a couple of safeties to clean up what the LBs don’t take down
(Piggy ducks from the tomatoes)
🖕
We have our starting safeties. 😉
Hargreaves
LeRaven Clark
Charles Tapper
Sean Davis
Daniel Lasco
GDP,
I agree with the BPA approach also. When it comes to our LBs & depth I do think priority has to be MLB & SOLB as we have quite a few bodies at WOLB. Now I also think these spots can be filled later on in the draft also.
Yes, I’d like to fill the MLB & SOLB with later round guys as you say.
Joe Schobert, BJ Goodson, Nick Kwiatkoski, Blake Martinez, Jared Norris, Eldon Roberts,
James Burgess
Yeah, the Liouville kid, he’s worth a look late, he might even be a UDFA.
Piggy
I’m off the Ragland train at this point. I’d be shocked if he were our pick. I think we need a CB , DE or OL more than a LB, and I’ve kinda come to grips that they’re gonna roll the dice with the 3 guys we have (Alonso, Misi and Jenkins) and the other guys for depth. We might draft a guy a little later to add to the mix, but I think there’s very little chance we draft a LB 1st pick.
Especially when only two and one play much of the time.
Nothing wrong with Misi – Alonso – Jenkins,
with Hewitt, Vigil, & a rookie draft pick as depth to start the season. Especially with the adds we have on the DL & a better ran more aggressive scheme by VJ with the corners pressing the WR’s, forcing QB’s off their early progressions, and into mistakes.
I hear ya, but there will be competition in camp for someone to overtake Misi. We still haven’t gotten thru the June 1st cuts after the draft, then there is the TC roster trims when you can add someone where a team was deeper there.
Sleeper
Tim’s not sleeping on Neville Hewitt, but he might be sleeping with him as much as he mentions him. 😀
I remember when everyone was excited about Gator Hoskins….lol
But Hewitt does have the prototypical size, speed, & skill set to keep showing promise like he did late last season.
Hey the subject is LB. Piggy is basically in a gang bang situation with the LBs in this draft. LOL
Michael Wilhoite has an original pick tender for $1.6M as a UDFA. He’d be someone I’d bring to camp to compete.
I’m sorry man, but if we put our DE’s in the 9 this year as often as we did last season; especially on run downs we are getting gashed again if we don’t get some major upgrades at LB.
We didn’t have Alonso and Jenkins wasn’t 100%. I’m not even going to use last year as a barometer because the season sucked on so many levels.
Alonso? When was the last time the guy played a down of football? Nobody knows what to expect from him? As far as Jenkins is concerned he’s decent but he’s not shown enough to say he’s an answer at LB either. Our LB unit sucks.
I’m liking seeing Tyler Higbee dropping due to concerns.
He’s my Travis Kelce this year, that might be had in the 5th or 6th now, hell maybe 7th.
Tim,
We’re in “win-now” mode? With what? Way too many missing pieces. If we were two or three players away and were being aggressive in FA to get the guys we needed to put us over the top that’s one thing but this team isn’t build to compete at this time.
Look at how the team is constructed.
Where the team is at is your opinion, nothing more. I don’t think management shares your opinion.
Ha! they’ve been talking about the playoffs for the past 2 yrs. I don’t give two squirts where management thinks the team is at this point.
How exactly is the team constructed? How is it built to win now?
Tannehill is out of cuffs. He’s free to let it fly!
ha ha ha. you say that like it’s a good thing
It’s a great thing. look forward to seeing it. Joe Philbin ran teams were circuses. Since day 1 with bullgate, etc, etc.
when he’s got receivers open on 3rd and long for a first and dumps it off short 9 out of 10 times I don’t think it’s really going to matter
Rey Maualuga could be a high salary camp cut since the Bengals signed FA Karlos Dansby & resigned Vincent Rey to a sizeable deal. I guess it depends on what they do in the draft too.
Lou, you don’t give two squirts where management thinks the team is at this at this point? I’m pretty sure they don’t care what you think either. LOL
I’m sure they don’t. But, when they talk playoffs and you see the same shit yr after yr it doesn’t matter what they think.
Well it does because they’re the only ones who can change it.
Lou
I’m actually with ya on the LB’s, and Alonso, although I know you have different ideas as to how to upgrade them. I’m worried Alonso may never be close to his rookie year., and while I think Jenkins will improve from last year, I’m not expecting much from Misi.
Almost every mock I do I pick Jordan Jenkins up to replace him.
yep, he’s been my replacement for Misi for quite awhile.
Lou, look at the contracts and the one and two year deals and the soon to be UFAs. I’ve discussed this many times and you’ve read it and commented on it. I’m not going to keep repeating it. This team expects to win the next two seasons.
Well, then I guess they’re going to be extremely surprised when they don’t
It’s possible.
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
April 19, 2016 at 4:40 pm
Alonso? When was the last time the guy played a down of football? Nobody knows what to expect from him?
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Lou, you serious? I see you really don’t pay attention then.
Alonso had 17 tackles over his last 2 games vs. division opponents Wash & NYG. he played in the last 8-9 games of the 2015 season after an early knee sprain in Sept.
BTW, those 17 tackles was in week 16 & 17. So he ended the season on a high note. That made the trade more sensible, & getting Maxwell too, who’s returned to health and also fits what we’re trying to do on defense with VJ at the helm.
People have this idea that Alonzo hasn’t played since an injury. He’s not injured. LOL
yay, we’re going to win!!! we got Kiko and Byron. Look at the difference between what Alonso did his rookie season and last yr. Not even close. Our hope is he’s back to form but, if he’s not, it doesn’t mean anything. you’re telling me I’m being opinionated on a lot of things but if you’re saying we’re going to be better at LB because we’ve got Alonso that’s a huge amount of speculation there. how do you know how well he will play and whether he’ll be back to playing like he did in ’13? you don’t. keep on speculating!!!
You didn’t even know Alonso’s status so…
Trading for Maxwell and Alonso is no more speculation than drafting prospects. Except they both have a productive body of work in the NFL.
doesn’t matter if I knew it or not. the fact is you’re speculating that Alonso is going to return to his old form. I’m not talking about the team. You’re saying Alonso wasn’t here last yr.
I don’t see much of a difference in the team between this yr and last. the talent they’ve added isn’t anything elite and some of it, like Alonso, is questionable until he shows he’s back to his old form. So, my “opinions” at least have something to be based on. Opinions to the contrary, like the team is built to win now, have no basis whatsoever. There’s absolutely nothing that points to that. The contracts mean nothing. They could mean they didn’t want to lock themselves in on any of the players they signed long-term and be stuck with worthless contracts.
Dbolt,
Is your wife still on strike from work?
Yep. Will probably go to arbitration in June where the School board gets destroyed.
They’re going to strike until June? That’s crazy!
No, strike will go till this Friday, after that with a further lack of negotiations it will go to arbitration in June.
Here’s the unions FB page where you can see updates:
https://m.facebook.com/Sayre-Teachers-Union-653885184726578/
You come of as a fan of another team. Just saying.
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/04/19/dolphins-trying-to-trade-up-for-rb-ezekiel-elliott/
How many of you would lose your shit if we did this?
I’d only lose my shit if we then platooned him. If he’s going to be the bell cow and we’re going to commit to the running game then I’d be okay with it as long as we addressed some other key positions with our other picks.
That said, it’s not my favorite scenario because I’d prefer a RB by committee but at the end of the day it’s about results on the field. Elliot is a top prospect, he checks off every box and doesn’t really have any weaknesses.
This could also be typical draft rumor BS. LOL
I could see us taking him at #13, but we’re not 1 good RB away from being a championship team, so I wouldn’t really understand it. I think he would help our team, but not as much as getting 2 or 3 good players without giving up those picks.
Eagles likely take him @ #8 or Giants @ #10. This is assuming Jerry Jones passes @ #4.
Lou doesn’t get the simple fact that we added two YOUNG vets who’ve shown they can play in the NFL at key positions of need for Miami. All without losing any draft picks, we only slid down 5 spots to #13 out of 31 picks..OMG, some one call the cops, we’ve been robbed! smh
We still have a full compliment of picks to draft another LB & another CB to go along with Kiko & Byron. It’s like getting 3 players to compete on the team @ #13.
Would you rather we didn’t make the trade & not have anyone to add to our LB corp or cornerbacks yet?
Then what would you be saying? Geee, Miami sucks, we need to draft 2 LB’s & 2 CB’s that can start immediately within the first 4 rounds….LOL
That ain’t never gonna happen!
I think the approach is a good outside the box thinking type of move. If it works, you look genius. If it doesn’t, oh well, we still have all of our 8 draft picks to try and continue to build the team.
I guess some fans like to bash everything the team does and some don’t. Oh well.
I thought I laid out a good case. The juris doctors would be proud.
I guess some people don’t realize we bring in guys every year so the fact that we brought in a guy at CB and LB means nothing until we see them actually play like they belong. Few yrs ago, we signed Ellerbe and Wheeler. Last yr we signed arguably the best, most dominant DT in the league and we ended up 6-10. Neither Maxwell nor Alonso are in the same class at their respective positions.
I get that people want trades like this to work in our favor and hopefully we picked up two guys who can make a difference on defense but talking like it’s a forgone conclusion that we are a better team because we have those two guys is something that just boggles the mind.
I HOPE we made the right decision in picking up Maxwell and Alonso but I’m not going to sit here and say, yeah, we got two young guys who can help us because we don’t know it that’s the case. Hopefully it is.
Again, I get hammered for being “pessimistic” or “negative” about the team because I don’t see any major differences between this season and last but you can sit there and say the team is better and built to win? WOW!!
Well Lou, your argument is the same reasoning with draft picks. Every year we bring in draft picks, and every year many don’t always work out. It’s the name of the NFL game. All teams have constant turnover.
The plus this time was we brought in 2 young starters in the NFL that we’re not UFA’s, and we didn’t lose draft picks….that’s not easy to do any year.
Was a nice roll of the dice. I’ll choose to be optimistic until I see they can’t play or contribute for us anymore.
You certainly have the right to say, Ba humbug, they suck, the team sucks, I suck, we all suck…time to go eat some more worms.
As fans of this team we’ve earned the right to be skeptical of any and all moves. How long does it go on? Every year there have been moves made that you’d think would get us over the hump yet they haven’t. A first round QB wasn’t enough, big time Wide out signing not enough, Oline with first round picks weren’t enough, best interior Dlineman signs but still not enough so until we finally get there there’s no reason for anyone to be truly conviced any move is right good or perhaps the one. New coaches, new GM’s, new scouts, new offense, new defense none have worked thus far. Last year did me in, I was always among the suckers, I bought in every time especially last year with Suh only to get the shit they called a season last year. Sure I’d rather have Alonso and Maxwell as we head into the draft but they don’t signify anything at this point. Count me with the jaded and the show me’s now, they finally wore me down.
And I’d rather trade up for Shaq rather than Zeke. But I understand the thinking for Zeke provided we use him properly which I’d be skeptical of. And the wheel goes round and round…
I always thought Shaq would make a good TE given he’s 7’2″ and weights 320 lbs.
Too slow though, he’d have been a Tackle if he played football
I’m referring to Shaq Lawson here however
overloaded—-a big te that could help with blocking along with tackle. Guy had great hands also.No LB/secondary could cover him
We’re 2-1 against the Nationals, 2-1 against the Mets, but standing at 4-7
WTF!
WE STINK!!!
Lest you not forget, Swept by the Bravos!
It’s a long season.
son of a son of a shula says:
April 19, 2016 at 5:45 pm (Edit)
As fans of this team we’ve earned the right to be skeptical of any and all moves
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Has anyone said otherwise?
This is also a new regime so they have no track record to go by. Maybe we should wait and see what we are rather than expecting more of the same. But some people seem to enjoy expecting the worst. Not you Son. 😉
I don’t know, not sure why you are making this a question it was simply an intro statement to the rest of my post.
Mike E, let’s say we do want a special talent like Elliot and we plan on making him a bell cow to control possession, break big runs, keep our defense fresh etc., that can change your team especially when you have good talent at WR to take advantage of teams focusing on him. Nobody we draft in the 1st rd is going to make us compete for a championship because of him alone. He’d be an important piece to the puzzle though.
My guess is we want to become a tougher team and one more built to compete late in the year in bad weather as opposed to relying on shotgun every play. That said you don’t have to trade up for a guy like Elliot to do that, but he is a stud.
I’m in wait and see mode and I’ll wait to hold judgement until we start playing games. It’s all about winning games and there are many ways to go about it. We shall see.
I understand that angle, but I just think it’s a shortsighted one, and I think we keep repeating the same mistakes. I know you think we’re looking at a 2 year window, but I want some consistency and sustainability too. I didn’t like the Suh signing either, because we’re not just one player away, and every time we trade away picks, or make a signing that destroys the cap, we weaken the team for the future. I want to build the team right for once, so 4 or 5 years from now, we’re not saying “Wow, we only have 1 guy from the 2016 draft.
We haven’t destroyed the cap though. We still have over $12M to work with and the heart of FA is over and we don’t know what’s up with Dion FF yet. After the draft we may also make additional cap cuts. It’s way too early to define this team.
Mike, you always want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to be good now, and for yrs to come, but the only real way that works is, if your QB doesn’t break the bank and plays at an elite level. You want to sign this player and that player, then you complain about the cap. There’s no crystal ball showing our FO how to do what you want. Don’t you think they want everything you want?
I’m just messin’ with you, we all want that 😛
I just hope Gase is the guy. Philbin was too nice, we need a real prick leading the team. No nonsense, no bullshit, hard work and demanding the best, its hard to win in the NFL. I hope Gase is the guy who is the unifier (current political term).
I don’t understand how anyone would not like Suh on their team, can’t comprehend.
Not for $100M +. Show me a team that paid their DT that much money and went to a SB
Well he’s here and you don’t have to write the check and the cap is in good shape so enjoy
he’s worth the price of admission.
Yup, I hope he becomes the first player in league history to actually break another player in half during a game, lol
I like having him and he did not destroy our cap. But he is the pinnacle of what this team is trying to accomplish. You don’t bring in a guy like him if you’re looking 3-4 years down the road. Last season blew up in our face and that’s what has everyone on edge and skeptical and that’s fair. Until we show otherwise what else should we go by? But do we have to go out of our way to shit on our team and look at everything as a negative moving forward? I guess we can but that doesn’t mean that will happen again in 2016. 🙂
And Gase can put in the perfect system, have everyone’s attention, scheme the shit out of his opponent but if Tannehill misses uncovered receivers for easy TD’s (I mean not even look at them not miss) the team’s confidence will sink to last year’s levels it has to get better.
Tim
That’s because we restructured Suh, and he hits us for about $30M next year. It’s a false security that the cap is fine. It’s not.
Not true, it will be $19+M in 2017. That’s why I keep saying it’s a 2 year plan but Lou says the cap has nothing to do with it when it most certainly does.
With the possibility of Tannehill coming off next year if he shits the bed again
Ok, sorry, it’s 2018 when it’s $26M
Steve
I already had a big slice of cake today, and I ate it, for real. It’s my coworker Debbie’s birthday, and I brought her a delicious chocolate cake to celebrate!
And you didn’t bring us any 😉
The Flying Pig says:
April 19, 2016 at 8:01 am
You too with the 2 CBs in the 1st 4 rounds?!?!
Other than that I like your early picks
Dude, have you looked at the roster and our secondary? TAYLOR is the starter next to Maxwell. We have a “acorn” convert from WR / DB to CB, an undersized 2nd year guy and a couple of ??. Yeah we will draft TWO CB’s this year. The little swammy says so.
MIke E! I am reading the Raymond E Feist / Janny Wurts Empire series right now. Although a little different due to Wurts’ contribution and that it is not based in the Kingdom or Kesh, but rather through the rift in Tsuranuanni it is equally as good as the Magician series and later Kingdom novels.
If you are still enjoying his early novels they seem to only get better. You have a LOT of books available to you in the queue my man. You are welcome. (you have to get them on line though. B&N seem to only carry the first 3-4 novels on the shelves.)
Thanks brother! I’m still on book 2, but I agree it’s getting better and better!
son of a son of a shula says:
April 19, 2016 at 7:19 pm
I don’t understand how anyone would not like Suh on their team, can’t comprehend.
son,
that goes both ways. some cant comprehend why anyone would want someone that takes up that much cap space for marginal play or i should say has no effect on the teams won loss record. this team was bad without him and bad with him, why would anyone want him.
You can say that about any player though, I’d rather have him.
The Flying Pig says:
April 19, 2016 at 9:38 am
The pork is never foul
No, you are almost right. Pork is never fowl. But it can often be foul. LOL
even the winged / flying variety
This draft isn’t loaded with elite blue chip talent just remember that. It has depth where there isn’t much difference at different levels. So trading up you’re not really losing out on much.
Well, you can look at that both ways Tim. If the players are about the same from 15-50, why give up 2 more good players?
My point, is we’re always chasing shadows. Let’s build the team already, and stop squandering picks and overpaying players. The sooner we do that, the faster things will turn around, and stay that way. It’s like putting shiny new red brake caliper covers on a 1978 Dodge Aspen. lol
Because everyone doesn’t have the same opinion.
“The fluffer is the pre-determined loser, designed to keep the pre-determined winner in competitive check.”
The fluffer is actually someone off camera who keeps a porn star “looking like a porn star” between takes….
Briefly scanned through yesterday, but didn’t notice anyone talking about Chris Jones. I think the Cheats wanted to cut him, then resign him on the cheap. I’ve never heard of him before, so I can only go by what was said, but he sounds like the kind of depth we were lacking last yr. Had a decent sack total when given the chance to start, for a DT.
Son
So Tannehill really shit the bed last year, huh? That’s a little severe, no?
I rather go BPA with CB, DE, OL in that order….but then that’s not BPA is it? lol
Not on a vertical board, but on a horizontal board it could be.
I have no opinion on Lee, but while I am a fan of Ragland, I tend to agree with Tim and would rather go CB (first) with the #13 pick.
I’d rather trade back a few picks and hope to get William Jackson III, WJIII hits like a truck, and has decent enough coverage skills to go with that speed.
Son, Tannehill didn’t shit the bed last year. I mean come on. You make it seem like the guy completed just 50% of his passes for 3,000 yards and 19 TD and 27 INTs. The entire team shit the bed from top to bottom as a team. But yes, in the big picture if we don’t turn this thing around in 2016 and 2017 we could end up starting over including moving on from both Tannehill and Suh in 2018. We also have decisions to make next offseason with some guys like Wake and Jones.
I’ve kinda come to grips that they’re gonna roll the dice with the 3 guys we have (Alonso, Misi and Jenkins) and the other guys for depth
I have a feeling that some of those “other guys for depth” will be starting by the end of the year, due to injury or otherwise. Hewett, Vigil and McCane all looked promising when they got their shots at time. I think with another year in the league these “scrappers” are going to keep grinding and getting better. I won’t be surprised at all if one or more of them wind up being the starter by the end of the season and not give the positions back next year.
son of a son of a shula says:
April 19, 2016 at 7:39 pm
You can say that about any player though, I’d rather have him.
once again, it goes both ways. you can say it about players we dont have and say wish we had him. but if a player doesnt help the win loss record who cares. i couldnt care less if the signed Rodgers or your boy cam, to a $2 contract if it doesnt result in more wins
Alonso? When was the last time the guy played a down of football?
Ummmm January 3rd, 2015……He had nine tackles and 4 for a loss. (9 total)
Here’s my take on OV. He got his money, because of the pressures he caused last yr, but he got them, because Suh was doubled and the rest of the line didn’t get much pressure, so the opposing QB sat there and sat there in the pocket until OV got to him. Another overrated thing I don’t like about him was his run D, coupled with Wake’s run D wasn’t a good combination.
Tim Knight says:
April 19, 2016 at 7:56 pm
Son, Tannehill didn’t shit the bed last year.
Mike E. says:
April 19, 2016 at 7:50 pm
Son
So Tannehill really shit the bed last year, huh?
when one is blinded by such hate, no matter what the fact are they dont matter. tanny could throw for 5000 yards and put up 40tds but if they are 6-10 he would still blame the qb cause his hate is not allowing him to see reality. he put all his cards on suh and it didnt work out. suh was no better then tanny at helping this team win last year but he wont say suh was a waste. he will defend that signing but rip others unfairly
Not true and I don’t have hate. I like Tannehill but he makes me fucking crazy, mad and incensed. Everything purely based on how I would analyze any QB on any team.
Mike and Tim,
I’m not getting into a whole thing on Tannehill again. There’s a lot of things he didn’t do that irritate the shit out of me and I can’t give a pass to, not for a 4th year starter. All other situations noted; the plays the coaching the line and what not.
That’s fine but you brought it up. 😉
I agree with that, but you’re leaving out some of the good things he did despite the plays the coaching the line and what not.
Of course he did a lot of good things otherwise he’d be gone but I’m concerned with what a QB can and has to do to make his team a playoff team.
All bitch no praise makes me wonder.