I was afraid of this . . . I think I can pretty much gauge the temperature of this blog, and I saw more and more of you buying in, and I’ll tell you, I so wanted to share the confidence that was building, that this time the Patriots weren’t the same, and even more importantly, WE weren’t the same. Well, we all found out the freaking hard way, that the Patriots just don’t lose at home when the chips are down, and this team, and that includes Adam Gase it’s HC, are absolutely, positively NO MATCH for Bill Belichick and his Patriots team led by Tom Brady.
I shut this shitshow off before the half, because the thing that I said I so desperately wanted to see, that the Dolphins belong on that field with this team was so dreadfully recognizable as not the case. When I saw that penalties were being called on the Patriots, YES, the home team Patriots, and those were the best thing that we were able to accomplish on offense, I knew that Gase wasn’t ready, that Tannehill wasn’t ready, and that Belichick still holds a mastery over the much younger coach.
I’d like to throw this game out, and say “Hey, we’re 3-1, and still in sole possession of first place”, and believe that we’re in good shape, but I know it’s just not true. Until I can see this team produce in an important match up, as Roger Daltry says, “I won’t get fooled again!”
I don’t care about the stats, individual performances, individual failures or successes, but I very much care that our team when they had an opportunity to make a statement, made an entirely different statement, one which said “Sorry, we’re still the Not Ready For Prime Time Players”. Shame to even compare this team to that very successful comedy troupe from SNL back in the 70’s and 80’s, we’re not worthy!
Well, this was therapeutic, I feel I purged some of the anger, disappointment, frustration and bitch-slap to the reality that we may very well be 3-3 and worse pretty soon. I pray that Adam Gase, and the whole damn team, every one of them is just as disappointed as I am, and they actually do something about it next week, and put an ass-whooping on the Bengals.
Finsmob Unleashed 
Drake had 3 carries yesterday
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I’m back off the ledge. Unhappy with the game yesterday but the Steelers lost too so at least I won’t have to hear how bad we were from the fans here at work. If we’d had this as our first game and then won the next 3 I’d feel better but it’s just one game.
I’ll be doing some laundry next Sunday, just in case.
Go Dolphins!
So we lost because we didn’t have Landry and because we didn’t run Gore enough huh? SMH
IMO we lost because we were out-coached and out game planned.
Again
I wanted to post an agreement with MikeE that we got outcoached by the evil empire (as much as I hate to admit it)… Rockphin seems willing to put that in writing as well.
Do Brady and Belicheat drive home from the stadium on a flaming motorcycle? On to Cincy.
both my daughters in college wore their Dolphins gear yesterday (Hanover and Cambridge) and got pummeled with ridicule. They’ve been too busy to follow sports lately, but I reminded them the Fins were up there so they decided to sport the colors. Fortunately for them, their personal self worth is not as attached to sports teams as MINE. 🙂 for them, 😦 for me. lol
LOL Rhino — win, lose or tie you set your daughter in Beantown up for a lot attention. Hanover is Pats country too, but a bit different than Boston.
Tim,
10 penalties yesterday with us being the most penalized team in football last year. Team getting out-hustled, outplayed and out coached. Sure, Gase lost the team yesterday. It doesn’t have to be permanent but the narrative, ‘just one bad game!’ sounds a bit hollow after 15+ years.
Everyone on here knows I am no kind of football genius or savant in anyway, but it has gotten so bad that I can call the plays for Gase before the personnel are all even on the field.
First and 10 – Shot gun formation 1. quick slant 2. screen pass
2nd and 10 (or 2nd & 20 after the obligatory holding call) Shot gun formation, single back, run up middle.
Third and 7 (or 17) – Pass play way short of the first down marker
Punt
Do this 3 or 4 times in the first quarter and then THINK about changing something.
It is sad, but I am right there with so many other frustrated fans. I am ready to blow it the fuck up after the first loss of the year at 3-1. I am ready to give Gase and his predictable pop warner offense his walking papers.
Gase tries to out-smart everyone and he is fooling noone. First down is a running down? Well I be a genius mastermind and pass out of the shot gun on every first down. That will catch them off guard!…..
2nd and long?? Run it baby! HE IS FOOLING NO ONE!
Run? did you say Run? when did we Run? i counted twice when Tannehill was in the game.
do you actually think that if you called different pass plays that they would work?
we’re a one dimensional team, pass only. that’s why we lost.
Cav I disagree with your post,
first of all no matter if you pick up yards or not you run the ball, Gore has been picking up yardage on first down they just don’t use him as much as they should.
you have to make the opposing D guard against the run. we didn’t do that yesterday and that’s why we got our asses kicked.
so your assessment of Gases solution is to avoid running the ball because we don’t get the yardage. that’s a very bad solution, we wont win unless we run the ball effectively, it all starts there.
the reason Tannehill looked like shit yesterday was because he had no run support. you cant expect Tannehill to carry this whole team on his shoulders.
when we run the ball 20 times or more per game our win/loss record is staggering good, when we don’t it’s staggering bad! this isn’t rocket science!
CavalierKong says:
October 1, 2018 at 12:48 am
Against the Pets, Gore had 3 carries for 4 yds in the first half. Gore had 6 carries for 12 yds against the Raiders. Gore was 9 for 25 against the Jest.
So in two and and a half games, Gore had 18 carries for 41 yds, under 2.3 per carry. If you take out the Tenn game, he hasn’t really done anything.
The fact is Gore has been ineffective the last 3 games. Maybe that is part of why he isn’t getting more carries and why our coach doesn’t want to run the ball.
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if you are going to base your statements on Gores effectiveness you should include all games he’s played this year and not just cherry pick the ones that back you statement.
Gore has 35 carries for 139 yards so far this season avging 4.0 YPC,
against the jets and the titans both drake and gore accounted for more than 20 rushes per game and we beat those two teams convincingly.
against the raiders Gore had 6 attempts and Drake had 5 attempts, we were getting our asses kicked by the raiders and may have lost that game but we won due to trickery.
against the pats gore had 11 attempts and drake 3,
it’s a downward spiral of run vs pass that’s happening.
i’d rather lose trying to run the ball than lose passing on every down.
it’s like golf, by doing something over and over you get better at it.
if you don’t do it regardless of the outcome you wont get better at it.
ocalarob says:
October 1, 2018 at 9:57 am
Run? did you say Run? when did we Run?
Yes, and as I said it was often predictable. This is how the first 5 dolphins possessions went.
1. Pass, run (holding), Run, pass, punt
2. Pass, run, pass, punt
3. Run, Run, Pas, Punt
4. Pass, Run, Pass Punt
5. Pass, Run, Pass, Punt
Second down is a run out of the shot gun formation for Gase. We are not arguing here. Gase needs to stop this.
By the way, it isn’t because of Drake either. Gore had more carries and could not get it done.
i was counting 1st down running plays we had 2 of them with tanny in the game.
that is on Gase. He thinks it ‘tricky’ to pass on every first down.
what did matt patricia do when he went to the lions? he got Blount and drafted Johnson, hello….running game……what do you think he emphasizes in practice?…….. hello running game….how do you think he dismantled the
patriots……..HELLO RUNNING GAME!
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018093006/2018/REG4/Dolphins@Patriots?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2018093006#menu=gameinfo&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay
we ran, mostly on second down, for 5, 0, 3, -1, 2, -2, 6, 2, 1, 5, 1, 14, 5 and 3 yards
Those negative runs and 1 yard runs were not Drake….The Oline is not run blocking and when the runner is not moving forward at the snap from shot gun and is standing flat footed waiting for the play to develop before the shot gun hand off it causes issues for the running backs. (either of them)
Drake has continually been stuffed at the LOS and has ran behind a number of different ol men, Drake has multiple losses, Gore never has any losses, there’s a difference there. Gore runs downhill Drake is too upright.
to win in the NFL you have to effectively run the ball on 1st down.
end of story.
it is not the end of the story when the COACH doesn’t run on first down. First down is a PASSING DOWN for Gase 75% of time or more (made up stat, I haven’t actually gone back and counted, but it is definitely more than 50% pass on first)
Drake is not this issue.
exactly, however if you look at the good teams of the NFL it is exactly the opposite.
When we are always passing out of shot gun the defense just has to tee off on the ball (pass rush to a point in the backfield. The D get’s a head start because the play calls for a delayed hand off to give the impression of the pass. The defense is already in the backfield on most plays now.
well the RPO has worked well for tannehill this year, he may be close to our leading rusher, but I agree with you, you cant just get in the shotgun on every play you have to run from under center as well, the RB gets a running start on the DL and LBers and they have to honor that so the LBers have to come up to stop the run, that’s when play action works best.
YUP! I am tired of the shot gun plays all the time.
Gore was stuffed at the LOS all day man, except for late in the 4th quarter where he had two nice runs in a row. other than that? Stuffed.
I blame it on scheme and not the player.
Gore doesn’t have negative runs Drake does.
Drake needs space to operate, you need to get him one on one against a LBer on a passing play or a screen, he is ineffective running btwn the tackles.
most of drakes big runs come between the tackles. you need to change your narrative to reality not your “feelings” or what you think you see.
Gore vs Drake 1st down only
fRANK GORE VS tENN 5.5 YPC x 4 att
1-10-TEN 33
(13:35) 21-F.Gore left tackle to TEN 26 for 7 yards
1-10-MIA 42
(6:10) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 21-F.Gore up the middle to 50 for 8 yards
1-10-MIA 25
(15:00) 21-F.Gore left guard to MIA 28 for 3 yards
1-10-TEN 28
(6:42) (Shotgun) 21-F.Gore up the middle to TEN 24 for 4 yards
DRAKE VS TENN 3.2 YPC x 5 att
1-10-MIA 15
(8:11) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake up the middle to MIA 23 for 8 yards
1-10-MIA 10
(12:05) 32-K.Drake right end to MIA 15 for 5 yards
1-7-TEN 7
(7:35) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake up the middle to TEN 4 for 3 yards
1-10-TEN 12
(6:04) 32-K.Drake right tackle to TEN 15 for -3 yards
1-10-TEN 43
(3:07) 32-K.Drake left tackle to TEN 40 for 3 yards
Frank Gore vs NY 4.0 YPC x 5 att
1-10-MIA 18
(11:01) (Shotgun) 21-F.Gore right guard to MIA 21 for 3 yards
1-10-MIA 33
(3:56) (Shotgun) 21-F.Gore up the middle to MIA 41 for 8 yards
1-10-MIA 25
(10:06) 21-F.Gore left tackle to MIA 25 for no gain
1-10-MIA 45
(5:14) (Shotgun) 21-F.Gore up the middle to 50 for 5 yards
1-10-NYJ 26
(2:49) 21-F.Gore up the middle to NYJ 22 for 4 yards
Drake vs NY 2.66 YPC x6 att
1-10-MIA 45
(14:22) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake up the middle to MIA 45 for no gain
1-10-NYJ 15
(2:41) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake up the middle to NYJ 9 for 6 yards
1-10-NYJ 28
(1:07) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake up the middle to NYJ 19 for 9 yards
1-10-MIA 20
(11:33) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake up the middle to MIA 24 for 4 yards
1-10-MIA 36
(9:39) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake right tackle to MIA 40 for 4 yards
1-10-NYJ 36
(3:50) 32-K.Drake right end pushed ob at NYJ 43 for -7 yards
VS Oakland
Frank Gore 3 YPC x 4 attempts
1-10-MIA 1
(6:52) 21-F.Gore up the middle to MIA 3 for 2 yards
1-10-OAK 35
(13:42) 21-F.Gore left tackle to OAK 35 for no gain
1-20-MIA 13
(14:24) 21-F.Gore right guard to MIA 16 for 3 yards
1-10-MIA 20
(2:54) 21-F.Gore up the middle to MIA 26 for 6 yards
Drake 1.33 ypc x 3 attempts
1-20-MIA 33
(1:31) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake left guard to MIA 36 for 3 yards
1-10-OAK 19
(1:37) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake right guard to OAK 18 for 1 yard
1-10-MIA 15
(15:00) (Shotgun) 32-K.Drake left tackle to MIA 15 for no gain
vs NE
FRANK GORE
3.2 YPC x 5 attempts
1-10-MIA 36
(1:28) 79-S.Young reported in as eligible. 21-F.Gore left guard to MIA 39 for 3 yards
1-20-MIA 30
(14:00) 79-S.Young reported in as eligible. 21-F.Gore left guard to MIA 36 for 6 yards
1-10-MIA 25
(9:52) MIA 8-Osweiler now at QB. 21-F.Gore up the middle to MIA 27 for 2 yards
1-10-MIA 42
(8:17) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 21-F.Gore up the middle to MIA 43 for 1 yard
1-10-NE 14
(4:08) (Shotgun) 21-F.Gore up the middle to NE 9 for 5 yards
it’s quite obvious who should be in the game on 1st down
SEASON AVG 1ST DOWN RUNNING (runs under 10 yards)
FRANK GORE 18 attempts 3.93 YPC
DRAKE 14 attempts 2.39 YPC
I really don’t see us doing a lot different from other teams, offensively. I don’t think Gase is doing anything radical or stupid. Yes, we are predictable, but so are a lot of teams. I do wonder why we don’t ever try to exploit the middle of the field. Why does the ball rarely go to a TE? Why does it seem like we never run those pick plays in the legal zone? Where are all the mismatches with our speed guys? And, even if you are averaging only 3 yards a run, you have got to keep at it. Running early wears down a defense and keeps the opponent’s offense on the bench. Sometimes you don’t see the benefits of running the ball until late in the game….but only if you stick to it.
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I’m not putting this all on Gase. Our players do not execute. And, this wasn’t an OL loss. Pretty much everyone played like shit on offense. Until we can hurt people through the air consistently, everyone will press the LOS and make running very difficult.
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And, I know people hate to hear this but until tannehill proves he can make plays and make them pay, teams will keep playing to stop our running game. It’s gonna be ugly early in games when teams are stacking the box to stop the run.
Exploit the middle of the field is what I don’t get either. And not talking a 3rd down catch for a first just past the marker. But that goes back to your Q about hitting the TEs. What Gesicki is supposed to be here for.
Evil genius was at work yesterday. He’d watched the tape of our first 3 games and came up with what seems the obvious answer. If they are gonna play a lot of small fast guys….then we are gonna play a lot of DBs.
And he set a defensive gameplan for us that everyone else we play to follow.
Unless you’re us. We saw what Detroit did and did the opposite.
Or is that exactly what we tried to do and the evil one already have those scheme holes filled?
Sign Dez and start Oswieller. If that don’t work try another QB, we have enough of ’em.
Trubisky threw 6 TD’s yesterday, Baker put up 40 something. A lot of these first or second year QB’s are lighting it up. Mahomes, look what he’s doing. Our QB won’t even look down the middle of the field.
He threw more airmail yesterday than the USPS.
Stanger – Belichick figured out how to slow us done, but did we try to counter that with something else? Frustrating the lack of in game adjustments by Gase. Maybe he did adjust, I shut that shit off before the end of the 1st half. lol
It is just a crying shame that we have to play more than just on first down. Because Gore DOES have negative plays or plays for no gain. A BUNCH. they are just on 2nd down (Gase’s running down) and the money down (third down) It would be so great if we only had to cherry pick plays and be “successful” (ie. 2 yards and a cloud of dust through 9.5 yards)
Coach Gase what is your game plan for the Bengals?
PRPP every possession. PRPP what else can I do?
PASS RUN PASS PUNT
son of a son of a shula says:
October 1, 2018 at 11:22 am
Unless you’re us. We saw what Detroit did and did the opposite.
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It is Gase trying to be an imaginative genius. “Well, Bellicheat will correct those issues, so let’s attack him a completely different way. PRPP!”
I know a lot of rookie TE’s start slow, but it’s driving me crazy how little we’ve used Gesicki. I felt like he was just what we needed, instead he’s just being ignored so far.
Mike,
it’s that heavy Martz influence. He doesn’t like to run that much and doesn’t like tight ends in the passing game. He also like to put his QB in jeopardy with poor protection. Gase needs to give over the reigns to Loggains.
Also, there wasn’t anything brilliant about what Belichick did. Pretty much anyone knows that we can be run on, and if we can’t be run on early, just keep doing it because we’ll fold. It’s been the formula to beat us for years since Philbin came in. Just let the team beat itself because we’ll give plenty of opportunities to do so.
Cause we f’d up on another first rounder
Yesterday wasn’t about scheme or Drake vs. Gore. We got outplayed. It happens. The Pats were outplayed by the Lions the week before. The Lions were severely outplayed by the Jets week one. The Bills dominated the Vikings last week. The Bills have been dominated by every other team they have played. The idea is to win as many games as you can and try to be playing your best ball late in the season. It was a shitty performance no doubt, but we’re still in 1st place in the division.
What I don’t get is why we come out flat in so many games. Where is the intensity? Why does it take us 2 quarters to look like we are into the game? Where’s the leadership? It’s kinda troubling.
So Kilgore could miss an extended amount of time and Ja’Wuan is banged up. Great.
son of a son of a shula says:
October 1, 2018 at 12:15 pm
Cause we f’d up on another first rounder
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I wanted Takk McKinley VERY much, and we passed on him. He only has 11 sacks to date compared to Harris’ 2.
I like Minkah, but Derwin James is already playing like a super star for Chicago. That kid is fantastic.
He plays for the Chargers. LOL
sb7mvp says:
October 1, 2018 at 12:01 pm
Mike,
………Gase needs to give over the reigns to Loggains.
Sb7, I was thinking the same thing. Didn’t really know much about him so I asked google and came up with this from the NFL site.:
“Loggains’ last two years in Chicago frustrated most Bears fans. His offense was characterized by conservative, unimaginative, unproductive play-calling. Clearly, Gase believes the ineptitude of Loggains’ offense had more to do with the lack of playmakers than the young coach’s faulty play design. The lesson once again: It pays to have friends in high places if you’re an NFL coach.”
I also read the Bears were something like 26th offensively with him. 26th??? When you’re going to look for a coordinator don’t you try to go after the better ones? 26 out of 32 doesn’t work for me.
I’m heading back to the ledge now. 🤦♀️
They had a rookie QB and very few playmakers. You can’t always go by rankings when looking at coaches. It’s always about talent.
There are teams with rookie QBs who do pretty damn well for themselves.
Not the Bears last year. They’re coming together as a team this year though on both sides of the ball.
Most rookie QBs go through a lot of growing pains.
Herd,
Gase doesn’t want the best people. He wants people who won’t challenge him.
You know this how?
Tim,
Oh crap. I knew that! Lol
LOL… however the Bears defense is fantastic.
Tim,
Because of everything we’ve seen thus far. People who question him don’t stick around long. Look for Phillips to be next to go.
What coaches questioned him that got fired? Phillips is a player, not a coach.
I said it yesterday. If he would let Dowell call the plays we would at least run more under center and play actions. He might run, run, pass every series but at least ORob would be happy. 🙂
ER — congrats on stampeding me, but you are just the latest to do so in the Toba league. 🙂
Did I? Figured I needed 6TDs from Mahomes. Lol
Randy says: “Why does it take us 2 quarters to look like we are into the game?”
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Part of the reason why is cause Titans and Raiders games were heat games. What a home field advantage that is….. and yeah it kicks in the most in the 2nd half.
stanger,
I’m not really sure what you mean. Weather keeps us from starting out games with intensity and urgency?
Point is the heat games beat the heck out of the visitors and they are dog tired come 2nd half. Keep in mind their bench is in the sun and ours in the shade.
Man it’s funny after a bad loss everything gets questioned. The world of fandom. LOL
Are you new? Everything gets questioned after wins too! LOL
Not like after a loss. LOL
Tim,
I didn’t say anything about coaches. I know herd was talking about coaches, but I said people. That said, I don’t really have a desire to argue about it. It is just my opinion watching from afar. I may be totally off base.
Fair enough. I was just wondering. The players who were jettisoned were more about money and not buying into the concepts and going rogue. That’s what I got from it.
Lots of us have been questioning the playcalling for a bit now. IDC what the circumstances are but when Drake has 3 carries……really?
Nobody did anything real well yesterday. The defense was solid early on but the offense didn’t support anything they did and the game snowballed. The same thing happened to the Giants yesterday. The game was close for awhile but they stopped moving the ball and the Saints put the game away late.
3 carries is the head scratcher
But throw all the stats out after the fumble they recovered
Once that happened and we are playing catch up – the stars on carries are doomed
SB – Then why draft Gesicki with a 2nd RD pick? Where’s the disconnect? Did Grier and Tannenbaum pick him without Gase’s blessings?
I think he’s just not ready yet.
He started so that indicates readiness to me
But they didn’t gameplan to include him in my opinion and that may be for the same reasons – he’s a rookie
Gase has been cautious with rookies before.
Tim, I argue that the Defense wasn’t solid early either. The stunk it up from the get go, the entire team.
First patriots drive – 13 plays – EIGHT first downs 6:37 – 3pnts after an amazing stand. (so pretty good finish to a shit drive)
second pats drive – 3:27 on first PICK by McCane (good drive)
3rd drive – 2:08 TD
4th drive – 7 seconds – TD
5th drive 15 plays five first downs 5:01 minutes TD
I actually think the defense was okay early
I tend to think everything flows from the inability to convert 1st downs early
I think it was a problem we had last year as well
We actually had that problem against the raiders and jests as well
Agreed. That’s was what I meant in my reply to M13 below. When you don’t play complementary football games can get out of hand.
I completely agree – it’s a game of momentum
We’ve been doing this since last year and it’s part of the reason we struggled last year
Our first half of offense is usually atrocious
Punt after punt after punt
I thought we would be running the ball and using our rookie TEa down the seam like madmen early
And what we got instead were a few deep prayers to Wilson, Stills and Grant
The first play of the game was a well designed play…but after that 🐖💨
Once the game gets out of hand, stats are academic
But early on in the game, those repeated off target deep throws sealed thenoffenses’s fate, add the penalties to that and I think everything flows from there
Yep! Football is a game of momentum. If you don’t create any you lose and sometimes you lose badly.
Tim Knight says:
October 1, 2018 at 1:19 pm
Nobody did anything real well yesterday. The defense was solid early on but the offense didn’t support anything they did and the game snowballed. The same thing happened to the Giants yesterday. The game was close for awhile but they stopped moving the ball and the Saints put the game away late.
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Tim, with all due respect, the Patsies* put the game away by halftime, 24-0. It wasn’t even close midway into the 2nd quarter. What happened to us was nothing like the Giants-Saints game yesterday.
I was talking about how a game snowballs when you don’t convert 3rd downs or do anything on offense. Not that both games went the exact same way, just how it happens.
Got ya.
Was 3-0 after 1st qtr
Tom Brady even had an int after that that we should have turned into points
The Patterson TD came with 13 mins in the 2nd qtr and most
That was a 67 yard drive where 55 yards came on an illegalnpick that wasn’t called
Yes – it was over by halftime, but I agree with Tim, the defense did the job early and the offense just set up punts. That will wear any defense down
Where we really came apart was on the fumble
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I was taking Tim as we were in the game late, like the Giants-Saints game. It was 24-0 by halftime.
Tim Knight says:
October 1, 2018 at 1:04 pm (Edit)
Not the Bears last year. They’re coming together as a team this year though on both sides of the ball.
Most rookie QBs go through a lot of growing pains.
Maybe the difference for them on offense might be a different coordinator. He was 26th in the league, we already had a coordinator who didn’t call plays. We make a new position for Christensen so we can bring in this guy. I can see doing that for a top 10 guy. 26th? Meh!
I want to like Gase. Hate the thought of another regime/rebuild. I know this was one game. Just saying I’m not sold on this guy.
Gase is doing something very wrong
Week after week we can’t get on the scoreboard early
Geisicki started because he had to. Derby was out
Correct: we only had 2 TEs to play yesterday.
But we do have 4 QBs on our roster! LOL
Yeah but it’s not like they haven’t been using him. He was targeted 3 times last week. I tend to think the start was going to happen soon irrespective of the derby injury
It actually happened in all 3 wins too
Bad offense early
But we created turnovers and made big plays
In the jests game for instance, the starting field position was insane and we didn’t do a lot with it.
I don’t think it’s just playcalling I think it’s really poor game planning
What happened to the matchups we are supposed to take advantage of?
They aren’t doing that….lol
We have a lot of speed on offense but it’s like instead of exploiting matchups that are game planning to focus on that speed every week
ER – I think NE employed a smart strategy, just come in the dime or quarter, and if you want to try to get your guys open for big gains, go ahead and try. For some reason, we just can’t morph like NE does from a short passing game to a power run game. They switch back and forth pretty well, although now Burkhead is hurt, but if they come out in a dime, we should have ran it down their throats, but we couldn’t do it.
Yeah Mike, I agree
That’s exactly what we should have done
New England does that all the time
I remember two years ago on a playoff game against the colts they just lined up in a singlback formation and ran for 200+ yards easily
It’s not brain surgery – I think Gase is a little stubborn
That was a 67 yard drive where 55 yards came on an illegalnpick that wasn’t called
I bitched at the time about the play, but that was a 100% LEGAL pick play. It happened within 1 yard of the line of scrimmage.
Other Prohibited Acts by the Offense. Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass being thrown is offensive pass interference.”
It was immediate and at the LOS so it was “legal”
Cheater KNOWS how to cheat and has a whole course on how to cheat and get away with it. ALL his linement hold and seldom get called. because he teaches them how to do it and not get caught.
I didn’t check to see if it was within 1 yard
It was pretty egregious but that doesn’t mean it is illegal
ER – They also could have thrown to the two TE’s, which would have been a tough match up for the smaller DB’s they had out there, but we didn’t even look at them.
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They just tried to do what got us big chunk plays the last few weeks
It’s kind of a silly strategy
They have the personnel to be a lot more diverse than they have been doing
I think if Gray doesnt go down, Geisicki would be a play here or there for now. Maybe it’s better they have to play him now, for the long run.
According to Gase, there was too much pressure getting to Tannehill to allow much to develop. Our O-Line is in deep poop, a mere 4 games in.
Also according to Gase, he pulled Tannehill because of the pressure he was facing. He thought it wise to not get Tanny killed.
Injuries….
Well by the 2nd half I don’t blame him for that
It was pointless and don so much a DL is teeing off
But the pressure doesn’t explain the ridiculousness of the early game calls
I don’t buy that for a second
In the 1st qtr when tannehill threw those deep balls he had a lot of time to throw
We had a lot of pressure on Brady and he just throws it to Gronk
Every team deals with pressure
They just gameplan around it
As of now, 4 games, we have 10 targets and 7 catches to all TE’s, 7 targets to Gesicki, 5 catches, and 3 targets to Derby, 2 catches. That seems like very little, no?
Yes that seems very low
We don’t execute early on much and yesterday not at all. I don’t think it’s play calls which is always the easiest thing to blame. It’s execution. What did the Pats do so innovative yesterday? Nothing! They executed their run game and passed off of it. Pretty simple stuff.
I don’t know how many of there first few plays are scripted but I suspect it’s a few
I’m sure execution is a factor but I think it’s design more than anything else
I don’t see a lot of passes in the middle of the field
Everything is on the edges
“I’ve up got to do a better job of making sure we’re giving the backs more touches and just be more consistent,” Gase said. “I’ve got some ideas on what we’re going to do.”
http://www.espn.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/27751/where-is-kenyan-drake-dolphins-must-find-bigger-role-for-rb
Last 2 games combined…
Kenyan Drake: 8 carries for 6 yards
Let’s not pretend that Drake forgot how to run the ball.
Look at James on 1 of Drake’s 3 carries
🐖💨
That looks pretty bad, either he was trying to help on the inside, and the LB saw that, and came up and played the run, or James just whiffed his assignment
Gase said when routes were open there was no protection and when there was everyone was covered….
Yet, Gase went on to say that Amendola and Grant were open ALL DAY.
Yep
He doesn’t want to admit it, but he’s got a SEVERE O-Line problem. Studs can’t run, and Tannehill doesn’t have enough time to allow routes to develop… hence the dink-n-dunk all day.
I mean Gase can’t just throw his hands up and say “fuck you guys” after a loss
He has to say something – It probably means nothing
Rockphin says:
October 1, 2018 at 11:35 am
It is just a crying shame that we have to play more than just on first down. Because Gore DOES have negative plays or plays for no gain. A BUNCH. they are just on 2nd down (Gase’s running down) and the money down (third down) It would be so great if we only had to cherry pick plays and be “successful” (ie. 2 yards and a cloud of dust through 9.5 yards)
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Obviously you are missing the point and getting sidetracked to prove me wrong because i’ve told you the theory behind this a 1000 times.
Early in the game you need to run on 1st down at 65% of the time to establish a reasonable down and distance on 2nd & 3rd down making it easier to convert the 1st and also to balance your offense in the run vs pass attempts
i know you think my stat is unfair to Drake but both RBs are judged by the same criteria.
all of this is just my opinion on how to play winning football or at least give your team a chance to win?
how’s running 14 times and passing 35 working out for you?
mf13ss says:
October 1, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Last 2 games combined…
Kenyan Drake: 8 carries for 6 yards
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it’s not the OLs fault that Drake only got an avg of 4 carries per game. check with the guy calling the plays as to why he runs an unbalanced offense.
you don’t stop running the ball because it is ineffective, if you do you dig a deeper hole.
I wish we could see Kalen Ballage
When did Ballage change his uni # to 27? I saw #27 on offense at one point, and I was like who the heck is that?
not sure? did he play??
1 carry
This OL has been jinxed for years. I dont care how many you draft or bring in, they are gonna get injured!
It’s the ‘Joe Robbie Curse’!!!
That’s not good news. The injury bug is taking a big fat bite out of us now, after staying away early on.
So we’re already down 2 starters, and it seems Ja’Wuan is battling through an injury of sorts.
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1046841255710351360
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Oh shit… not good
Dolphins unraveling . . . WTF!
Bring up my man Jalen Davis from the PS to man the nickle. We can move Minkah around, so we’re good there. Methinks that Cordrea is in the doghouse.
I have no solution to our O-Line, though.
Obviously you are missing the point and getting sidetracked to prove me wrong because i’ve told you the theory behind this a 1000 times.
No Rob, I am not missing the point. You have been parroting your fake stat for months now. YOU miss the BIGGER picture. Down and distance is very important, but if you run on second or third and lose yards or get none IT IS JUST AS BAD as running poorly on first down. Now throw in the fact that the coach chooses to pass most first downs then and run on second down your stand MEANS EVEN LESS.
?????????????A high priced RB????????????
Mondo being a fucking idiot again. How does he keep his job as a football writer?
LMAO!!!! Come on Armando, you sound like a novice saying dumb shit like this.
Surefire or sure to get you fired? I think the second. Strap all your cash for a 12 game rental of a player that is not a surefire guarantee to be able to run behind this line, learn the playbook while trying to play, etc, etc.
Injuries happen but geez both interior OL we brought in already? Ugh!!!! Especially after a bad loss this makes me feel sick to my stomach.
Hey Belichcik, I guess McCain wasn’t faking after all. You get BS calls all the time so STFU!!!!
ElephantRider says:
October 1, 2018 at 3:14 pm
This OL has been jinxed for years. I dont care how many you draft or bring in, they are gonna get injured!
Yes, injuries happen to every o-line we are not the only team that can’t finish a season with the same 5 guys.
We have just drafted poorly and made poor decisions on who we should keep for too many years. How many “o-line guru’s” have we had over the years, yet every 2-3 years none of our oline picks are left on the team (not out of the league, just on other teams, contributing successfully)
Who are these OL you speak of playing successfully with other teams? I can’t think of one.
Front office blew three guards bad. And not like they weren’t trying. A G in rounds 3-5 should be a keeper.
Replying to Rock saying – that are playing successfully with other teams? The current FO didn’t draft Thomas, Turner or Douglas. Sure Tannenbaum was there for Douglas in 2015 but it was still Hickey’s group. I agree 3rd rd should be keepers, 4th rd the pct. goes down and a 5th is never a sure thing.
Looks like it’s time to clip a QB
and bring up Isaac Asiata, and Connor Hilland
Sign another C and OG to the Practice squad!
Exactly. Asiata is a beast in run blocking. His pass protection is what needs work.
I like Washburn ok but it doesn’t seem like we can coach up O-linemen. Tunsil is a penalty factory and James is terrible. The others have been JAGs ever since Sitton went down. Your OL isn’t very good if one guy is the linchpin. I don’t know where we go from here but I agree that Gase’s playcalls have been terrible.
I was hopeful this off-season. We looked like we were trying to be Kansas City-lite which should still be fairly explosive. Too bad our weak version of Alex Smith isn’t getting use out of his version of Kelce. Too bad we can’t run block well enough to get our explosive RB going. Hopefully we get some weapons back and things turn around quickly.
I just read that Kilgore is done for the season too.
Figured that was coming. Ugh!!!
4 games and down 2 starters on the OL, including our new stud. Those 2 together hurt a lot more than the score yesterday.
Trade for Bell? Lmao suicidal idea, dude is overpriced, overrated, slow, and a team cancer, no thanks
The Indian spirits are territorial, and their places of meeting for ceremonies was sacred land, homesteaded land by Native Americans.
They congregated to these areas for social meeting, ceremonies, awards, and yes burials.
The burial grounds are sacred land, and Indians would fight to the death to keep out trespassers,
Google pounce Deleon.
The Indians in North Miami Gardens were mainly Seminole, and some Calusa Indians which merged with the Seminoles.
Seminoles are famous for their fighting skills, unbeatable warriors, the US government could never beat them.
even after death the Indian spirits remain near the burial site, and for some reason take offense that someone desecrated their sacred land with a loud and noisy football stadium..
What can they or We do? Lol ooo boy I dunno, but there were better places to build IMO
The Seminoles ruled the Everglades and south FL. Any person that could live in such a harsh, hot, humid and wild environment is one bad ass mo FO and I would steer clear of that dude, lol
I’ve been to Seminole burial grounds, and Calusa shell mounds. It feels like spirits are there, but could be imagination or indigestion too, lol who can be sure.
But I’ve met a few Old time Florida crackers who say they can talk with the Indian spirits, I decided not to push My luck trying that
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On that play by James, you can see his first step is to block down. So, either that was actually his assignment and he did what he was supposed to do, or the QB didn’t call out the extra men at the line….and adjust the protection. Or, you know, audible out of a play going directly into the shift on the DL where an extra LB is actually standing. Maybe James just screwed up. You can’t tell from that video what happened or who screwed up. Did James see him? Maybe, but you still block your assignment. What if that LB actually dropped back in coverage, James jumps out to block him….and the inside guy comes free? It didn’t look good, but it’s impossible to know.
What’s worse? A 3 yard run or an incompletion? Even if you can average only 3 yards a run, that puts you in 3rd and 4….a manageable situation. Obviously you can’t just run, run pass every single series but you can swing more towards a balance and then open things up later. This team’s success has coincided with a balanced offense and an effective running game. This ain’t brain surgery. It doesn’t take a genius.
It’s not just about running it, you have to get yards when you do. We’ve been struggling to get yards on the ground. The holes just don’t seem to be there. Our backs are being met in the backfield or at the LOS too often. Got to give them at least a crease.
Classy????????????
I saw that yesterday. Wow!
Luke Joeckel, G, Seahawks. Age: 26.
Jeff Allen, G, Texans. Age: 28.
Andrew Tiller, G, Saints. Age: 29.
Zane Beadles, G, 49ers. Age: 31.
Allen Barbre, G, Broncos. Age: 34.
Trey Hopkins, G, Bengals. Age: 26.
https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2018G.php
We could use all of them, lol jk
Is Joekel still as good as he was?
We could go practice squad poaching?
There’s a couple in there I wouldn’t mind!
http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-practice-squad/
Alright Gase here’s the game plan: put together all the dumb things you want to do to try and beat Cincy. Get it all together – then tear it up and do the absolute complete opposite.
Use the middle of the field
Run your QB
Look off a safety
Blitz
Play press man
Play loose, enough of the tight ass play not to lose crap. Punch them in the face and keep punching.
And start Oswieller, your offense needs a kick right in the ass.
OF all the words of woe
the worst of these
“I TOLD YOU SO!”
Right you are, MF-13 (at your 2:56 post): GASE doesn’t want to admit it. But he’s got a SERIOUS PROBLEM in his O-Line. Admitting it would constitute a criticism of T-BAUM’s strategies, right??
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Josh Sitton and his $6 million salary lasted exactly 1 game. Daniel Kilgore, another line mate, is now wearing a cast on his left arm and is also gone FOR THE SEASON AFTER ONLY 4 GAMES. And Ja’Wuan James (and his $9 million salary) was yanked in the second half and replaced by Sam Young!!! And how about that wayward snap by another back-up lineman which was recovered by the Pats and turned into a touchdown?? At this point in the season, GM Mike Tannenbaum’s grand plan to rebuild Miami’s below average offensive line looks like an expensive failure. Worst of all, there’s no quick way to remedy this O-Line disaster during the rest of the season. So what you see now is what you’ll get, minus whatever injuries may occur later in the season. The collapse of “T-Baum’s Folly” occurred faster than even I thought it would!!!
Two drafts ago, in round 1, Miami (T-Baum and pals) selected a defensive end from Missouri who now has trouble finding playing time. Some, including our beloved “Son-of-a-Son,” have labeled this first round pick “a bust!” Would it have been possible to TRADE this draft pick for a pair of second round picks or, perhaps, a second and third round pick? We’ll never know. But Pat Elflein, a player MF-13 remembers, was at the top of my O-Line hit list. He now starts for the Vikings at center and is a far sight better than whoever Miami starts at center this week. Instead of trading down to help our O-Line, T-Baum went in another direction. Finally, in round 5, he took cafeteria star Isaac Asiata who, I believe dressed for ONLY 1 GAME last year!! Perhaps deterred by last year’s failed picks, T-Baum drafted NO OFFENSIVE LINEMEN IN THIS YEAR’S DRAFT!! He instead opted to spend millions on the Sittons, Kilgores and Youngs while signing James for the “Bargain” price of $9 million for one year.
While TIM and some others on this site were singing praises for this new O-Line, MF-13, your’s truly, and others were saying Miami will pay dearly for these mistakes. Well, PAYDAY was yesterday. This team was exposed for what it really is: a PRETENDER, not a CONTENDER!!
Yes, it was just one game. Yes, we’re still in FIRST PLACE. And, yes, we WILL WIN MORE GAMES THIS SEASON!! But, does ANYONE still think the Dolphins are a legitimate Super Bowl contender?? If so, I’d like to meet you at THE FEST later this month. I’d like to see the color of your money. I’d especially like to help you donate to my favorite charity.
If Steve Ross REALLY WANTS TO BUILD A WINNING TEAM, he’ll fire T-BAUM and have a new GM in place for the 2019 draft. A GM who believes we need young, fresh, players on our O-Line, NOT a bunch of expensive retreads who often break down at inopportune times. A GM who believes our current O-Line needs a MAJOR OVERHAUL. Sadly, I expect Ross to stand by this proven LOSER, just as he stood by Jeff Ireland for way too many years. ONE thing is sure: Steve Ross knows, hires, and KEEPS losers. Just look at his record!!!