Rebuilding and the Dolphins Coaching Search

So much drama surrounding the Dolphins Head Coach search, and also the with the philosophy of a rebuild here in Miami. First things first. Chris Grier, not Steve Ross will be choosing the new Head Coach. Grier is complete charge of football operations, and he’s the guy making the decisions. If you think Steve Ross will be meddling with the decision, that’s on you.

Is a rebuild such a bad thing? What really is a rebuild? I’d say there are probably a lot of different ways to rebuild something. If you replace the short block of an engine, that’s considered a rebuild, but the whole unit wasn’t rebuilt. I think for the Dolphins, what we’re going to do is not make the same mistakes we’ve made in the past few years. Flash back to 2015, when we signed Ndamukong Suh for a 6 YR $114M contract. Great player at a premium position, but we weren’t one player away, and honestly, Suh never flourished here. No more huge contracts for 1 player.

It’s more than just Suh though, it’s going for the quick fix. In 2017 when we lost Ryan Tannehill, we should have soldiered on with what we had, rather than pay Jay Cutler $10M. I wanted the quick fix, but it was selfish, and foolish, and it was a poor use of cap money. That’s what needs to change here. Getting rid of Mike Pouncey was a start in the right direction, and in the off season, the purge should continue. Robert Quinn ($12.9M), Andre Branch ($7M), Devante Parker ($9.4M) should all be purged. Cam Wake, who we all love shouldn’t even be considered for a re-sign. Let him go win a championship somewhere else.

Besides just outright cutting players, I think we should trade a couple of players. The most obvious one is Ryan Tannehill, and his market is completely undetermined. Not sure if we can recoup any more than a late round pick, like a 5th or later, but all it takes is one team that really wants him, and we can possibly do better. I know a couple of you here are tired of this one, but you guys aren’t focusing long term, you’re still fantasizing about success next season. I’d trade Reshad Jones for what I believe could be a 3rd RD pick to a team who needs that veteran presence and maybe is a player or 2 away from what they believe is a championship. It’s a minor cap savings, but we have 3 safeties in T.J. McDonald, Minkah Fitzpatrick and Reshad Jones, and T.J. won’t bring back the bounty of a 3rd RD pick. When you have numerous holes during a rebuild, you don’t keep a glut of talent at one position, it doesn’t make sense.

We’re trying to become a team that not only has a younger roster, but one that will have lots of cap space for flexibility. No more big FA contracts, and certainly no high priced FA contracts to older players. Quinn was a trade, but that 4th RD pick we gave to the Rams, plus the salary we had to pay Quinn was a loss for us. Maybe that’s part of the reason MTP is now banished from the kingdom.

As for the Head Coach, I don’t have a horse in this race. I like certain things about each of the candidates, but I don’t feel like any of them are the a clear cut choice. It’s probably silly to not want Brian Flores from the Patriots, but former Patriots coaches that left NE and became HC’s have had dreadful results. Romeo Crennel (28-55), Josh McDaniels (11-17), Matt Patricia (6-10), and Eric Mangini (33-47). Of course none of this means Brian Flores won’t succeed, but whatever qualifications any of those coaches had, the success of the New England Patriots is on the shoulders of Bill Belichick.

I love Darren Rizzi’s passion, fire, and respect the fact that his unit has been consistently very good. I don’t have a clue as to what his offensive and defensive philosophies are. They might be good ones, but we don’t know. Kris Richard was the defensive backs coach and then coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks for the “Legion of Boom” era. You have to love that. We don’t know what his plan is on offense, and we don’t know how he is at game planning and handling the entire roster. I feel that whatever HC we hire, it would be great if we could get some continuity going, but that requires patience. Would Ross accept 3 losing seasons and continue on for the sake of continuity?

Last night driving home, I was listening to Bill Polian, and unfortunately, just caught the tail end of the discussion, but what I did hear was Polian saying that teams like Dolphins, Bucs, Cardinals are in a pattern of failure, and are setting themselves up for such every time they make a coaching change. He’s right. We all hunger for it, yet each time we do it, it sets the team back a couple of years. The best teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Packers, Ravens have had the same Head Coach for 5 or more years, which keeps the same system in place, and allows a team to continue to build the roster with a particular style, rather than flushing players every few years that don’t match the new regimes style. Polian said what the Dolphins, Bucs are doing is a “Self fulfilling prophecy”. He’s right.

If we’re going to pick a Head Coach, I think we as fans have to try and be patient, but more importantly, Steve Ross does. He has to block out what the media wants, what the fans want, and just let the HC build something. In retrospect, I think we may have cut Gase too soon, although I didn’t like him, and hated the way he got along with players, maybe he deserved more time. Too late now, but hopefully this time, we don’t make that same mistake.

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1,567 Responses to Rebuilding and the Dolphins Coaching Search

  1. Mike E. says:

    I think Gase was just socially uncomfortable with the amount of media presence at the press conference. There were probably 10 times more reporters than there are in MIA

  2. The Flying Pig says:

    All this time o thought Gase just failed to catch the coach doing cocaine
    Now I think he might have been his dealer

  3. Lol Tim, what are the jets fans saying about Gase?

  4. son of a son of a shula says:

    I said if we got Kafka our offense would probably go through a complete metamorphosis

  5. Jets c e o has to defend hiring Gase to fans that are criticizing it.

    CBS sports is saying if he can’t handle day 1 in NY, a year will eat him alive.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25762739/jets-ceo-christopher-johnson-defends-hiring-adam-gase-amid-fan-criticism

  6. Tim Knight says:

    All the Gase talk is a good example of what will be said here when Tannehill is no longer here. LOL

  7. naplesfan2010 says:

    Hoping Gase is on Xanax or Prozac or wevertf that happy-pill stuff is called. like Mother’s little helpers from back in the day. So it’s being professionally managed and not gotten off South Beach.

  8. Tim Knight says:

    My opinion on what systems a team runs on both sides of the ball is least important. It’s about execution and talent. Any system can succeed or fail due to lack of talent. Systems and play-calling is not magic.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      And then you have the patsies* who seem to win with less talented players because they out-coach everyone.

      • Tim Knight says:

        They play what it take to win the game. Have you noticed and I mentioned this yesterday – on defense they used one DL hand in the ground and then 4-5 defenders all standing up showing blitz whether they all rushed or a few dropped back? It was neither 4-3 or 3-4. Some were DE/OLB, LB and DB. A total hybrid defense which Flores is accustom to. Belichick has been defying common principles for decades. Flores has been with him for 14 years. I’m sure he gets it.

  9. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ok I thought Franz Kafka’s The Metamorphosis was perhaps a little more popular with y’all.
    (Another failed joke by son)

  10. son of a son of a shula says:

    Naples, I wouldn’t have a problem with Kafka and bringing some of Reid’s playbook. A good mix between Belichick and Reid wouldn’t be a bad thing for our team.

  11. Pats are loaded with talent Naples, I’m not arguing bellicheat does the most with what he has, but this year they are loaded with talent.
    Edelman is so underrated, he steps up in playoffs, he’s clutch. Gronk is a beast, blocking downfield, making plays,
    Look at the guy, he looks like a steroid and gym rat,
    He’s all muscle, sometimes he carries players to the first down, he is almost impossible to deny the first down.
    And as much as I hate that stupid Brady, gotta admit he’s a real leader, and can still sling the ball as good as anyone. And his ol protects him, he has time to make plays.

    I don’t want to brag on them too much, lol hate that team, but I can’t say they aren’t loaded with talent, they are IMO

  12. naplesfan2010 says:

    yikes what is that head tilt all about?

  13. Randy says:

    Geez, Gase has had crazy eyes forever. Our society is so fucked up.

  14. naplesfan2010 says:

    On draft day, I groaned when the pasties* drafted Sony Michel. I thought he was just what they needed to extend Brady’s usefulness another couple of years.

  15. And I will say that even though the cheats played a very good game, the refs helped them tremendously.
    The cheats will get no such favors in KC. I hope the Chiefs win..

    Does anyone know why the cheats do not have home field advantage against the Chiefs? lmao

    It’s called The Miami Miracle!

  16. naplesfan2010 says:

    Tim i was trying to agree with you above, saying the cheatriots play whatever scheme is your worst nightmare. They put in whatever game plan will embarrass your weakest three players.

    Their #2 goal is to take away your best skills playmaker onn offense.

    And their #1 goal is to enrage, confuse, disappoint, and emotionally defeat your QB. (see Phillip Rivers, Rapeberger, and even Peyton the Man.)

  17. mf13ss says:

  18. mf13ss says:

    Now official…

  19. naplesfan2010 says:

    In his first season with the Giants in 2016, Graham’s linemen helped New York become the league’s most improved defensive unit as the team allowed 158 fewer points and 1,290 fewer yards than it did in 2015. The Giants ranked No. 2 in the league in points allowed (17.8 ppg), the best mark posted by the team since 2002 (17.4 ppg), and tied for No. 3 in the league in rushing yards allowed (88.6 ypg). Graham’s linemen accounted for 23 of the team’s 35 sacks on the season.

  20. naplesfan2010 says:

    The HC for the Vikings said their season began to fall apart with the death of Tony Sparano.

  21. naplesfan2010 says:

    Is there some rule that says if you poach a coach , you must promote him?

  22. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    January 14, 2019 at 9:13 pm
    I could ask for a beer. 😉
    ————-
    You should, because you were on it first earlier in the day. I’m just posting the official announcement, backing what you posted earlier. 🙂

    🍺

  23. Tim Knight says:

  24. mf13ss says:

  25. herdfan says:

    Gase looks like a crazy man. Now I know why he always had a ball cap pulled over his eyes….Yikes!!!

    In all seriousness, is there some kind of issue with him, like did have a sports injury, or did he get dropped on his head as an infant?

  26. Tim Knight says:

    Does this make everyone feel better? LOL

  27. olddolphan says:

    BACK FROM A WILDLY SUCCESSFUL numismatic convention known as the “FUN SHOW,” which stands for Florida United Numismatists. I have been the president of FUN (aka “Mr. FUN”) for the last four years. During those years, FUN has had both the largest and the second largest conventions in its 64 years of existence. THIS show was held in Orlando at the Orange County Convention Center. Since I was not eligible to run for another term as president, I decided to run for the board of directors. With Mrs. OD their to see it, I was indeed re-elected to the board and appointed to the position of education director for the 41st consecutive year. I am responsible for making the arrangements for all the seminars and programs that take place at each convention. This just completed convention had 17 educational seminars and 20 world class speakers. Over 800 people attended these seminars. The convention, itself, had 904 tables manned by professional dealers from all over the world. Our attendance exceeded 11,000 persons, not a record , but a really substantial turnout, indeed. Those (like me) who serve as officers or board members of FUN do so strictly as volunteers for these unpaid positions. But we DO GET PAID by the companies we work for, most of whom greatly appreciate numismatic talent when they see it.
    ——————————
    I was greatly saddened to read of the passing of all-time Dolphin great Bob Kuechenberger in this mornings TAMPA BAY TIMES. HE was, I believe, the only Dolphin player to appear in all 5 Dolphin Super Bowls! His long career was highlighted by playing with a cast on his broken arm in the 1973 NFL playoffs. He bloodied the faces of more than one Raider player during the AFC Championship Game, a brutal dogfight that the Dolphins won decisively! (PS: Make that “Kuechenberg.”) He is generally regarded as the toughest, meanest, Dolphin of all time!!! We’ll all miss “Kooch.”
    —————————–
    TODAY, January 14, is a hallowed day in Dolphins football history. It was exactly 46 years ago today that YOUR MIAMI DOLPHINS, in just their 7th year of existence, completed THE ONE AND ONLY PERFECT SEASON with a 14-7 triumph over the Washington Redskins!! – – IT STILL SENDS CHILLS down my spine when I recall how deliriously happy me and all “My Boyz” were when the final gun sounded!! It is a day I WILL NEVER FORGET!! –i really NEEDED A PICK-ME-UP after 2 years of working on so many Vietnam War casualties in the burn treatment center at Ft. Sam Houston and 2 other medical facilities. I was a changed and somber man. But the Mighty Dolphins got me out of my funk with a performance of historic achievement – – – a performance that absolutely captivated the entire state of Florida. As Florida’s ONLY pro sports franchise, the Fins were HUGE from Miami to Key West to Tampa, Orlando and Jacksonville. Everywhere you went there were Dolphins plates, pennants and bumper stickers after the Fins captured back-to-back titles with a combined 32-2 record, the greatest 2 year run in NFL history!! After the Fins won Super Bowl VII to complete the PERFECT SEASON, me and my buddies engaged in some serious drinking. As the clock approached midnight, one of my friends said “Isn’t tomorrow your birthday?”
    I responded, “YES!” “Well shit, we might as well KEEP DRINKING, right?” So, I spent the first few hours of my 26th birthday SO DRUNK THAT, TO THIS DAY, I remember precious little of it. All I know is that I HAD THE BIGGEST HANGOVER OF MY LIFE 12 hours later! AND, I’ve NEVER DRANK for two days straight, again!!!
    ——————————
    I urge all of you to go to my rendition of Super Bowl VII and relive the pure joy of completing the PERFECT SEASON 46 years ago. Look up the ABSOLUTE PERFECTION series listed above and work your way to Super Bowl VII. Maybe Mike E. or someone else will put it up on the board for all to enjoy.
    AFTER ALL, there’s ONLY ONE PERFECT SEASON IN THE NFL!!
    Good night my fellow Dolfans!

  28. Btw stick a fork in PG & E, they are done. I knew something was up Friday when their stupid stock nobody wants had a big day. I knew something was foul and sure enough their stock dropped 50 percent today.
    The CEO pumped it up Friday, sold Monday morn, stole some cash, and bailed out the door a very rich thief.
    PG & E, bankruptcy court next,

    Erin Brokovitch must be dancing in the street, lol 😎

  29. A millionaire once told Me,

    You never want to know HOW a rich man makes his money, it’s not what You think.

    I know how he makes it, mostly from the working class and the poor.

  30. Brian Flores took the blame on a conference call with media, and most importantly, he the took the blame in front of the New Engine Patriots’ players.

    The Patriots’ defensive play-caller and de-facto defensive coordinator spoke to his players after the loss to the Miami Dolphins when Kenyan Drake scored a touchdown on a two-lateral, walk-off touchdown in the final seconds for an improbable 34-33 win. Flores took responsibility for the play, and asked that everyone on the team move on to Pittsburgh, like he’d be doing.

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    “Flo made no bones about it, he felt like it was on him, but at the end of the day, none of us really care. We weren’t like, ‘Man, that was on you.’ It was more like, ‘That’s on all of us. Let’s move forward,’” safety Devin McCourty told ESPN this week.

    Flores addressed the situation head-on during a conference call with reporters on Tuesday. He was asked why he made the decision to have Rob Gronkowski on the field and Devin McCourty off it.

    “I would just say, that’s on us as a coaching staff,” Flores told reporters. “It happened, we wish it hadn’t, we’ve watched it, we’ve corrected it as a staff, we’ve corrected it with the team, and really honestly, we’ve got to move on to Pittsburgh. So, if that situation kind of shows up again, I think we’ll handle it better.”

    Bill Belichick said Gronkowski was on the field to defend the deep pass, and it just so happened that McCourty was the player who naturally subbed out for Gronkowski in that final-play package. That was an oversight by Belichick and Flores to have McCourty, one of the team’s best tacklers, off the field for what was likely going to be a lateral-based play. Gronkowski’s presence was also probably unnecessary, as the Dolphins were so far from the end zone and weren’t likely to air out the ball downfield.

    While Belichick didn’t exactly own up to the mistake, Flores seems to have done so.

    “He’s an accountable coach,” Trey Flowers told ESPN. “It’s always a next-game mentality; you can’t harp on the past or the last game. You move on to the next, and he showed that from the very next meeting after the game, going through the film and what we did wrong, and then, ‘Now it’s on to Pittsburgh.

  31. I hope Brian learned from the Miami Miracle.

    . Granted a defense rarely is ever in that situation, but they sure screwed up putting Gronk in for Mcourtney.

    I do like how “Flo” was a man about it, owned it in front of everyone, and didn’t try to sidestep it like bellicheat did , and we all know it very well could have been bellicheat s decision.
    I believe the players can respect a guy like Flores, and will want to take it upon themselves to do better the next time.

  32. pheloniusphish says:

    OD – Drink it well.

  33. olddolphan says:

    ANY DAY that starts with a kiss from my wife and a birthday card can’t be all bad!!
    72 years ago today I took my first breath of Canadian air. Within a few days, I was placed in an orphanage. 7 years later my adoptive parents brought me to AMERICA! How lucky can 1 guy be?
    ————————
    I hope many of you will take the time to go a bit up the page to my 10:40 PM post. You’ll find my recollections from Super Bowl VII and the completion of the one and only PERFECT SEASON!! — I hope each and every one of you have a terrific day. I KNOW I WILL!! And I’ll spend most of it WORKING. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

  34. son of a son of a shula says:

    Happy Birthday OD, have a great day my friend.
    Glad you had so much “FUN” this past weekend.
    Keuch will be missed and he should have already been a Hall of Fame inductee.

  35. ocalarob says:

    Happy Birthday OD

  36. ocalarob says:

    PTI, on ESPN last night were talking about Miami’s plan to tank, Wilbon said the league should look into that and penalize Miami if true.
    I don’t think that guy likes Miami, but what can you expect from a Bears fan?

  37. ocalarob says:

    coaches and players are responsible for their play on the field, they have to perform to protect their brand, i highly doubt you will see any coach or player purposely lose.

  38. ocalarob says:

    i sure hope the Jags sign Nick Foles, then maybe Haskims will slide to us

  39. ocalarob says:

    i’d rather have Haskins now then Tua in 2020, Haskins is taller than Tua and has a way better compl % than Tua.
    Tua is 6’1″ Tua is tua short

  40. ocalarob says:

    other than Haskins i’d rather wait for 2021 and target the clemson QB

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I’d trade up this year to get Haskins. Size, great arm, accuracy, savvy and we need a real QB desperately.
      Tua doesn’t interest me, like you said he’s short. I don’t care for lefties either not that it matters much.

  41. Mike E. says:

    Happy Birthday OD! Enjoy!

  42. son of a son of a shula says:

    Phelon yes he’s a one year starter but he checks every other box especially when it comes to size, arm strength and accuracy. I’d go all in and settle the position once and for all.

  43. son of a son of a shula says:

    Plus I’d find a way to get either Dobbs or Brissett and really be done with the position.

  44. ocalarob says:

    the hardest part of playing the QB position is accuracy, with good coaching the rest is easy, Haskins has that accuracy and that’s why i would pursue him.
    if i were calling the shots i’d do what it takes to make him a fin.

  45. Mike E. says:

    No one here likes Drew Lock?

  46. BailBondMike says:

    I like Jake Fromm next year as well. UGA also runs a pro style offense.

  47. BailBondMike says:

    I think you don’t trade up for Haskins but if he is there you take him. Otherwise, I would take Minschew later who may be the most accurate QB in college football. Then, draft another next year.

  48. son of a son of a shula says:

    Show me a recent player from Mizzu who’s done well in the NFL

  49. Mike E. says:

    How about Lock in the 2nd? Do you think he makes it to the 2nd?

    • D says:

      Sheldon Richardson is from Missouri. Shane Ray has had good years, he is just behind two number 1 picks. Markus Golden is a pretty good pass rusher.

      Lock is legit good, i dont see why there is any question about it, he wont last until the second.He is worth staying put and taking him at 13 for sure.

  50. Rockphin says:

    If a guy turns out to be your “Franchise” quarterback does it really matter where in a round or what round you get him in? If any of this years crop of QB’s can be a “franchise” guy then get him.

    This “he isn’t a first round pick” shit means he is not an NFL starting QB. Don’t take him. If he is then take him whenever you can get him.

    I would much rather have Aaron Rodgers on the team than Cadillac Williams or Ronnie Brown.

  51. ocalarob says:

    some around here want to stand pat and use the #13 on the BPA, But isn’t that what we’ve been doing over the past few years? and how is that working out?
    i’m either trading up if i have too for Haskins or i’m trading back for 2020 future draft consideration

  52. ocalarob says:

    tanking requires stockpiling draft picks

  53. Mike E. says:

    Sonny – For you bud

    Jacoby Brissett Jan 14 2:23pm ET

    Indianapolis Colts QB Jacoby Brissett appears unlikely to be traded during the offseason, as general manager Chris Ballard admitted Monday, Jan. 14, that ‘it would take somebody doing something that would blow me away, and it has to be the right thing for the kid, too.’

  54. ocalarob says:

    maybe we will be able to sign osweiler again, i sure hope so

  55. Phindog says:

    Happy Birthday OD !!

  56. ocalarob says:

    Rockphin says:
    January 15, 2019 at 10:26 am
    If a guy turns out to be your “Franchise” quarterback does it really matter where in a round or what round you get him in? If any of this years crop of QB’s can be a “franchise” guy then get him.
    __________________________________

    well said however at what cost do you go get him? if we were to trade up to a spot to get him we’re talking a kings ransom for Haskins, at least 2 #1s and 2 #2s if not 3 #2s.

    that’s way to high of a price to pay and even though you get Haskins you would be hard pressed to get the OL and DL lines that you need.
    at what price is too much?

    • D says:

      If thats the asking price i wouldn’t do it either. Id do two number 1’s and two 4ths.to trade up and take him, but thats my line.

  57. D says:

    D says:
    January 15, 2019 at 10:51 am

    Sheldon Richardson is from Missouri. Shane Ray has had good years, he is just behind two number 1 picks. Markus Golden is a pretty good pass rusher.

    Lock is legit good, i dont see why there is any question about it, he wont last until the second.He is worth staying put and taking him at 13 for sure.

  58. D says:

    Happy Birthday OD. Have you rolled the odometer back to 0’s again?

  59. D says:

    Mikey, i like Lock, Jones, and Haskins, and id even take Grier in the first but id probably try to trade back a little.

    • Mike E. says:

      Good to know. I’m not stuck on a QB, especially if we have to trade up. I’d rather use all our picks on players to start the rebuild, but if the right guy falls to us, go for it.

      • D says:

        Its one pick, that pick being a QB not being a QB, being any position really isnt going to make or break us. It isnt going to set us back if we dont hit on it either, its just going to be disappointing. We put too much stock in getting the perfect pick and there is no such thing. All those guys can fail and they can succeed You can get more or less than you expect from them.

        That said, i dont want us to over draft, but none of us really know what these guys are worth to our team/FO the people picking know that so this guy is or isnt worth a first is just conjecture. Trading back to get more picks also isnt necessary because we will have more picks next year and we will make more moved next year in FA so we cant really place those kinds of judgements on this either.

      • D says:

        The big deal is for us to take the right guy with the right pick and we shouldnt be talking ourselves out of a QB anymore than we should be talking ourselves into it. I see several QB’s worthy of a first this year. None are perfect but several of them have potential to be a good starter in the NFL. Mahomes wasnt ready year 1, Rogers sat behind Farve for a while. I dont think we need a guy who is going to crush it in year 1, and i dont think takng one this year keeps us from considering one next year either.

  60. BailBondMike says:

    I do like Lock just not at #13 that is why I said not in the 1st. He is good but he seemed to struggle when pressured. I would trade back with Oakland for their 2 later 1st’s and a 2nd for our 1st and Tannehill then draft Lock, Grier, Jones or Minschew.

    • D says:

      He wont be thee in the second though, neither will Jones and likely Grier will go late first too. Minschew is the only one above that im pretty sure will fall out of the first. Grier might go very early second but im thinking late first at this point.

  61. stangerx says:

    Randy — Ii always knew you put the fun in FUN, just not in that way….. real impressive.
    Happy B-Day my brother.

  62. D says:

    Miami Dolphins meeting at EW Shrine. – Kansas linebacker Joe Dineen, Arkansas defensive lineman Armon Watts, and Boise State quarterback Brett Rypien

    Watts is a former Razorback who was coached by Bielema so i wonder if he might not be someone we would target. He had a really good year this year on a team that didn’t have a good year.

    Ive also heard Rypien is one of those QB prospects that right now isnt rated very high but is kinda flying under the radar and might rise really quickly, kinda the way Garopolo did his year.

  63. Rockphin says:

    D, did I understand you right that you don’t think taking a first round QB this year keeps us from considering one again next year?

    Really?

    • D says:

      Yeah if we swing and miss id do it again. If we get a guy we thing is developing then we wouldn’t need to. Im not saying we should, im just saying if we needed to we could still draft one the next year. Im just saying we dont have to fear taking one this year just because next years crew, at this time looks better than this years.

    • D says:

      If we see a guy we like this year we shouldnt be thinking about what might be there in 2020, because we dont know if we even get a shot at someone else then, we need to take bird in hand and go from there.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I actually agree with him
      Let’s say you do that and both have potential – you can trade one within 3 years and probably get your first back

  64. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Birthday, OD!

  65. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m terms of Missouri

    I would say Sheldon Richardson has had a good career
    I think Kony Ealy has lived up to a day 2 pick expectation
    I don’t know much about Markus Golden but he did have 12.5 sacksnin 2016

    Seems like Missouri puts a lot Off dL in the NFL

    After that it’s iffy

  66. stangerx says:

    I find this simply amazing. How can you be the favorite in every game for 4+ years?
    ————————–
    New England is a 3-point underdog at Kansas City on Sunday, and that makes this the first time since 2014 that Tom Brady has played a game in which he was the underdog. The last time was November 30, 2014, when the Patriots visited Lambeau Field and were 3-point underdogs against the Packers. The Patriots lost that game, 26-21.

  67. ocalarob says:

    I don’t think anyone is going to beat NE

  68. ocalarob says:

    * afc championship games in a row, how stupid is that?

  69. ocalarob says:

    Ron Wolf said you should take a QB in the 2nd round every year

  70. ocalarob says:

    D says:
    January 15, 2019 at 10:54 am
    If thats the asking price i wouldn’t do it either. Id do two number 1’s and two 4ths.to trade up and take him, but thats my line.
    ____________________________________

    I wouldn’t even do that, if we’re tanking we need to stockpile draft picks, not give them away, any trade up would be a win now scenario, trading back would be a tanking scenario IMO

  71. ocalarob says:

    If we stay with Osweiler we will be sure to get a very early pick in 2020, he would be my starting QB in 2019.
    I would focus soley on the offensive and defensive line and i would definitely trade back and acquire more picks.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Not sure what Flores and his staff will think of Osweiler but he’s a UFA and was Gase’s guy, so not sure he’s in the plans.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Ah, that’s why you said previously we should resign him. Actually I think it makes sense. We can lose without ‘actively’ trying to lose, lol.

      • ocalarob says:

        the thing is these coaches and players will not try to lose, they have their brand to protect, so if you give them a limited QB, stockpile draft picks, focus on the OL and DL 1st, after you have an abundance of early picks then you get your QB and fill in the skilled positions,

  72. ocalarob says:

    i would also get a CJ anderson type RB, or maybe sign him to a 1 year deal.

  73. CavalierKong says:

    LOL, I love how the Pets fans are moaning and complaining about he ref crew in the AFC Championship game. Hilarious.

    • stangerx says:

      Actual comment from a Pats fan: “Not every patriot fan is arrogant. In fact most of them are humble and dislike the arrogant ones just as much as you do.” And at the Rock….they actually ain’t that bad. Maybe it is the fair weather ones form all over the country for whom the weather never got bad.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, not sure what to do with this. You could say the same thing about every team and their fans. On an individual basis, I can like a Pets fan, but on the whole fuck ’em in their neck.

  74. ocalarob says:

    i would jam cj up the middle most of the time and get my rookie offensive line to learn run blocking,

    • D says:

      If you are gonna do that get a guy like Blount or that little bowling ball fucker, Mike Tolbert and throw them at the Dl over and over. At least make that other team sore as fuck for the next week.

  75. Rockphin says:

    2019 is a good season to “tank” as we were looking like a losing season anyway.

    Home
    Buffalo Bills – W
    New England Patriots – L
    New York Jets – W
    Baltimore Ravens -L
    Cincinnati Bengals -L
    Philadelphia Eagles -L
    Washington Redskins -L
    Los Angeles Chargers -W
    Away
    Buffalo Bills -L
    Cleveland Browns -W
    Dallas Cowboys -L
    Indianapolis Colts -L
    New England Patriots -L
    New York Giants -L
    New York Jets -W
    Pittsburgh Steelers – L

    That looks like an 11-5 season with some luck. Will 12-4 get us the #1 pick?

    • D says:

      We need to just play it out and try not to lose or win, just learn and get down the fundamentals of the new system and just learn to play as a team. I dont care if we win hardly any games next year as long as we look like a team thats coming together by the end of it. I have heard people making light of our record and how it wasnt that bad, but our team looked like the team that should be picking first last year. We looked completed awful most games. Thats all i hope to change in year one of a new coach and new system.

    • ocalarob says:

      not where i went to school???

    • Rockphin says:

      don’t understand the comment about my math? there are 11 L’s and 5 W’s up there. Then I asked a separate question if 12 losses will get us the first pick.

      • Rockphin says:

        doh, I got the wins and losses reversed! yeah, my excuse is I took the day off and I’m posted from the local bar.

  76. ocalarob says:

    Off to chase the little white ball with dimples, c-ya later

  77. D says:

    stangerx says:
    January 15, 2019 at 3:40 pm

    Actual comment from a Pats fan: “Not every patriot fan is arrogant. In fact most of them are humble and dislike the arrogant ones just as much as you do.” And at the Rock….they actually ain’t that bad. Maybe it is the fair weather ones form all over the country for whom the weather never got bad.
    —————————————–
    They are just trying to trick you dont listen to that nonsense…..

    • stangerx says:

      Have sat next to more than a few of them in the stands. Had no problem and have noticed the internet difference. Now the Jets fans….. least the ones who come to games are like BBMike should be making money off of them.

  78. Rockphin says:

    Kong, is this an ape thing?

    “but on the whole fuck ’em in their neck”

  79. Tim Knight says:

    Rock, how could you even do a game by game win and loss at this time? We don’t even know what the roster looks like.

  80. Mike E. says:

    Phelon – Was that some deep south psychoanalysis?

  81. Mike E. says:

    Cavs, Knicks and Suns fighting hard for that #1 pick. Cleveland hasn’t won double digits yet. Tanking?

  82. pheloniusphish says:

    Mike E. – Into a new series. Spell Slinger by Sebastian de Castell

  83. mf13ss says:

    Old Dolfan,

    Happy B-Day, man! May your 72nd be perfect… perfect like the ’72 Dolphins. Enjoy your day!

  84. pheloniusphish says:

    Mike E – Same author did a series called “The Greatcoats.” Also really good.

  85. Randy says:

    Jets hired Gregg Williams as DC. Damn.

  86. Randy says:

    I am in book two of the Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick Rothfuss. It was recommended to me by a lot of people. It’s boring. Very little action. Chapters that are nothing but characters telling stories. I’ll finish the whole series because it’s what I do, but I have been disappointed.

    • Rockphin says:

      Too much development of backstory and not enough character development? I think the best authors are the ones that get you to care about the characters. Whether you really hate the villain or really like the hero.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I love those books. Definitely a matter of taste though. Good luck finishing the series. We’ve been waiting for the third book in the trilogy for going on 8 years. And there is no way he can complete the story in one book to any kind of satisfactory conclusion, so who knows when that series will be completed, lol.

  87. olddolphan says:

    MF-13: INDEED, my birthday has been el-Perfecto today!! Mrs. OD got me my favorite cake, put ONE candle on it, and proceeded to sing “Happy Birthday” to me to the amazement of our two dogs! I got taken out to the local LONGHORN restaurant, too!! In all, it’s been just wonderful!!
    ———
    I WANT TO THANK each and every one of you who’ve given me SO MANY best wishes. Gotta say
    Young Stanger’s “72” birthday cake was really something else!! And, unlike 1972, I WILL NOT drink to excess as I most certainly did after Super Bowl VII. Tonight is a 1-Colorado Kool-Aid night for me. Now I get to walk the dogs in about two minutes, then, again, around 10 PM. What shall I do the 3 hours in between???
    ———
    Whoever said I’ll lay down and snore for 3 hours IS WRONG!!

    • mf13ss says:

      GRAND to hear, Mr. Campbell! Now lets hope you get a Phins B-Day wish as well… to finally get this team to move in the right direction. It starts in the trenches, so I’m hoping we get some BIG uglies (<– note the plural!) before day 2 of the Draft ends: one on the O-Line and one on the D-Line. We shall see!

  88. ElephantRider says:

    I doubt Osweiler will be the QB in 2019. Tanking is one thing, but you got to get the players to at least want to play.

  89. mf13ss says:

    I can’t wait until we have our staff finalized. Not knowing what to look for in FA and the Draft is killing me softly, when this is the time of year I’m usually in full-swing.

  90. wyoming85 says:

    Happy B-Day OD
    It gives me hope that I may have your energy at your advanced IQ!

  91. wyoming85 says:

  92. herdfan says:

    Happy Birthday OD!

    • olddolphan says:

      Thanks Herd and thanks, Wyoming. I only have 1 day off the rest of this month. But it doesn’t bother me at all—just part of the job! I’m just thankful I can still do it. Gonna watch one more period of Lightning hockey from Dallas and call it a night. It’s a real pleasure to watch the best team in the NHL this season (so far).

  93. The Flying Pig says:

    Happy Birthday OD

    🐷 🎂 🎈 🎉🐷

    Are you old enough to drink yet?

  94. New Age says:

    Happy Birthday OD!

  95. I really don’t want any qb in the first rd of this year’s draft. If somehow Haskins was to drop to #13 you probably couldn’t pass that up but I’d stay at that spot and take a blue chip d-lineman and either take another in the 2nd or an offensive lineman in the 2nd and call it a day.

    We’ve got other options we could go with for now rather than taking a qb, especially reaching for one again in the first. Some of these prospects like Lock, Jones and Murray just have way too many questions about them to take a chance on in the first rd when you’ve got a shot at guys who could really help your team in an area of need like defensive line.

  96. If these guys at the top are serious about the rebuild then I don’t think they can/should do something that goes against what they’re saying. Don’t trade up for a qb, don’t take one at #13. Build a team like you know you can by getting the guys who can really help you first and make the entire roster as strong as possible at every position.

    There is just way too much blue chip talent on the defensive side of the ball at #13 to be passing it up. We need to get one of those guys in the middle of the defensive line who can put pressure on opposing qb’s and stop the run. Yeah, we could use a qb too but build the damn team like it should have been to this point. Do it the right way already.

  97. son of a son of a shula says:

    Lou, I’m torn. While I’m with you on staying put and getting a real good player for our Dline I would still pull the trigger on going to get Haskins. Both make sense to me. We need our QB so bad but at what cost do you do it?

  98. Mike E. says:

    You can’t be so rigid when it comes to the draft. Crazy things happen, and you can’t make hard and fast rules about what you can and can’t do. The draft is so fluid, so if Haskins were to fall to #13, maybe you do take him, even if you pass on a DL or DE. We weren’t going to get Tunsil, but there he was in our laps, so we took him. You just draft the best player that helps your team.

  99. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!

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