Whatever we do with our 1st pick, I don’t think anyone here should be surprised. I think we can go a multitude of directions. By that, I mean we can stay put at #13 and select whomever we believe is the best player , we could move up and take a player (read QB), or we might even trade back and collect more draft capital. I really have no idea what we’re doing and I definitely don’t have a strong feeling about any particular player that we’re interested in. I’m not always right about who we’re taking, but I usually have a pretty good hunch, even if it’s wrong.
I think many of you that believe we will just be going whole hog on the DL, both DE and DT, and also staying in the trenches with numerous OL. I think you guys are all overlooking the fact that we need a QB. I know we’re supposed to be all in on Tua, but I don’t buy it. We need to upgrade the QB position with some young talent for the future. Fitz is a placeholder, and right now we have Luke Falk and Jake Rudock. I feel very strongly that we are taking a QB in this draft, and it will be no later than RD 3, and very possibly RD 1. Now which QB that is, I really have no idea. I don’t think Haskins is going to make to #13 and I have no reason to believe we’re in love with him enough to trade up to get him. We very well may be, and if we are, GO GET HIM! If there’s one thing we’ve seen here since Dan the man departed in 1999 is that we’ve yet to replace him with the right QB, and thus have been 144-160 AM (After Marino).
It’s definitely not all on the QB, but when you have the right QB, you have the most important player on the field locked up. You build around that. No DE, DT, OT, OG, OC, LB, S, CB, RB, TE, K, P or LS can make that impact. You gotta have the QB, and we don’t have one. It’s time to remedy that. Take one this year, and much like the Cardinals, if you’re not sure about that guy, take another one next year, but find that guy! Having Fitz means if we do take a QB, even in RD 1, that we don’t have to rush them into service immediately. If at some point during the year the QB is ready to go in, then maybe we’ll get a peek at what is to come, but it’s not a necessity. It would also give us a jump start for next year because the QB will know the system having been here a year, even if he doesn’t play. That will make the transition next year much easier.
It’s gonna happen folks, we’re taking a QB whether you want us to or not! Get used to the idea, because it’s happening this draft. Or at least it should.
#staythecourse
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Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Sweat, Montez, DE, Mississippi State (A)
Round 2 Pick 16: McGary, Kaleb, OT, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 14: Benzschawel, Beau, OG, Wisconsin (A)
Round 4 Pick 14: Jackson, Tyree, QB, Buffalo (A+)
Round 5 Pick 13: Copeland, Marquise, DT, Cincinnati (A+)
Round 7 Pick 19: Renfrow, Hunter, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 7 Pick 20: Armstead, Ryquell, RB/FB, Temple (A+)
I like his one
this
i think you like his one too.
LOL
I’ll put my picks and guys I’ve liked or didn’t like up against Ireland’s any day. Bring it!!!
Here’s a question for the board!
I the draft above I had to leave Oliver on the board to pick Sweat.
I”m not sure if that would be a good move?
Would you take Sweat before Oliver?
Yes, but it would be a hard decision. They are pretty closely rated IMO.
I would go Oliver
I do like both of them though, either would be good for us
Lou here is another guy for you to mock with a crazy ass name. Hjalte Froholdt, actually from what i have seen he wouldnt be a bad OL prospect for us in a later round.
3.5 wins huh?????
I guess we must we win the first half of one of the games, or else we’d have 4 wins. lol
So that chart says that NE, BUFF and NY have the 1st, 2nd and 3rd easiest schedules in the league this season, and we have the 13th. I get that our division kinda blows, and we have to play NE twice, but those numbers seem strange to me.
Damn browns! Browns inked QB Gilbert, the QB from the defunct AAF Orlando team.
I knew Gilbert was NFL bound, but was hoping Miami would sign Him.
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Also Chiefs signed Keith Reasor, CB, he was Another one of the Orlando guys i identified as a great cb, solid press or zone, with a pick six, that was NFL quality.
I was hoping Miami would sign either, but Earl Okine the freaky 6’7″ edge rusher is still available, cmon Miami, call the guy.
He’s part Cam Wake, part Jason Taylor , and will put the fear in NFL. Quarterbacks
Also Charles Johnson. WR is still unsigned, he’s a athletic, prolific tall WR that catches everything, with great speed and body positioning in sidelines, red zones, high points.
Carolina just signed Rashard Ross, WR for the Arizona Wildcats, he had 7 TDs in 8 games,
Charles Johnson had more yards, but not as many TD,s. He’s next to go to someone
If we were to sign Oliver, I assume we’d use him as a 3 technique. So, who’s the NT if we’re gonna play a flip 4-3? Taylor makes the most sense to me. I think Godchaux is a guy who can play the 3 tech and NT spots but he doesn’t excel at either. Sweat fills a bigger need than Oliver IF you think Godchaux can be your 3 tech guy. If not, the need is the same.
I think Oliver can play anywhere on the line in a 3-4 or 4-3.
NFL teams are inking these guys up cheap, no draft picks required
Bout what?
We passed on Gilbert, and talking to RG 3? SMH
No this was before he signed with Baltimore. He didn’t want to be a bridge QB and be looking for another team in a year or two.
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MikeE,
I don’t think you’ll see Oliver playing at NT for extended stretches in the NFL.
He is going to be a flex DT, he will like up at 1tech im sure, but the defenses in the NFL, thats more just like a 4-3 DT shifted to a different gap.
David i would get too down in the dumps over that, these guys probably wont even make the 53 man rosters. At best, i bet they are PS bound. As good as you feel Gilbert is, he probably isnt better than the guys we have on our roster.
I feel like Gilbert would have made our roster, we are talking to rg3, can the guy even walk, last I saw, he was a damaged pretzel.
Besides, they are inking them up to prove it contracts, very cheap. No draft picks required.
I think it’s wise to try, since it cost little to find out. Remember, Cam Wake was dominating another league, We brought him in,,,,, And the rest is history.
Granted, not everyone’s gonna be Cam Wake, but there is NFL talent to be had cheap, with no picks or trades required. Why not.
We need an edge rusher, Earl the Pearl Okine is it
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My four figure days will then be five figure days, or so is the plan
NT is really a very outdated term.
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Nice Tits are never outdated.
When nice tits get outdated, lol. They are not nice anymore, just tits
RG3 talking with Dolphins to find out if they are interested in buying any old Redskins or Ravens gear?
David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
April 5, 2019 at 1:18 pm
I feel like Gilbert would have made our roster, we are talking to rg3, can the guy even walk, last I saw, he was a damaged pretzel.
Besides, they are inking them up to prove it contracts, very cheap. No draft picks required.
I think it’s wise to try, since it cost little to find out. Remember, Cam Wake was dominating another league, We brought him in,,,,, And the rest is history.
Granted, not everyone’s gonna be Cam Wake, but there is NFL talent to be had cheap, with no picks or trades required. Why not.
We need an edge rusher, Earl the Pearl Okine is it
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I dont disagree with bringing them in, especially for us who are going to need to fill the roster with someone, i just dont think you need to worry about Gilbert or any of those guys going to other teams as they likely wont make theirs or our rosters. These guys were fun to watch in the AAF, but i dont think any of them are destined for starting positions in the NFL.
Gilbert to Johnson, the deadliest combo in the now defunct AAF.
Gilbert was unemployed less than a week, he’s in the NFL now, now it’s CJ turn
This yeard UDFA period will probably be a lot more exciting than the last few years lol. Some of us who look for the gems that make the 53 from that group will likely get a few that will.
We talked with RGIII just like we did with Tyrod Taylor and Teddy Bridgewater before signing Fitz. RGIII re-signed with Baltimore a couple of weeks ago.
Sorry MF
Im really sad that AAF league got crushed. I wish the NFL had thrown them a bone to let them survive. I believe a minor league football system makes sense, and i enjoyed watching those games despite there not really being much on the line for any of them. I loved seeing Spurrier back at it. Its a shame really.
Agreed, the league was mismanaged from the start. The players and coaches were fun and cool, but management figured they would make money year 1.?
No football league makes money year one, not even the NFL.
To start a new league, You have to have a vision, which includes a business plan.
The business plan has to include, estimated revenues and expenses, and backed by deep pocket capital
Almost 90 percent of new businesses fail in 5 years because lack of capital . ,
To survive, the vision has to include a few years of losses, and a clear path to gains in the 4th and so on.
What happened to this? Cancel the season after game 8? That couldn’t have been the plan, this is just shortsighted and stupid.
Now the WWE wants to start a new football league, will they repeat the same mistakes, or,,,
This already has red flags aplenty, WWE stock is jumping up due to the hype of all the money to be made in the new XFL league
I can already sniff this one out,
WWE stock skyrockets, then the league loses money right away, so WWE stock tanks,
the shareholders get stuck with huge losses, and law suits start piling up against the WWE.
And that’s not even counting the other missteps they will make, the ew league is doomed before it starts imo
It wasn’t the NFL that killed them it was the PLAYERS ASSOCIATION. They only place I saw AAF game broadcast was on NFL network. The NFL gave them a platform (on their network) to show the games. I don’t think they were broadcast on NBC, CBS, ABC or FOX (I might be wrong there, but they DEFINITELY were shown on NFL network)
It was the players union that killed the league.
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I think because of the success of Aaron Donald as an undersized DT Oliver is going to go early in this draft.
Good that will push an OT to us! 😉
Boring!!! LOL
It will be interesting to see who’s still on the board at #13.
LMAO
Didn’t the WWE already try and fail with the XFL? Isn’t that like ancient news? back from 18 years ago???
Let’s use every 1st RD pick for the next 10 years on an OL until we have a solid O-line. NOT!!!
let’s use every pick on a QB instead and send them all to the ER until we get an Oline.
Ba! Humbug! When was the last time the Patriots drafted an OL in RD 1?
Last year. LOL
Yeeeeaaaahhhh, well what about before that????
D,
I use the term NT to describe a player who’s job it is to take on multiple blockers. I has nothing to do with where they play. A NT in a 4-3 is the guy occupying two blockers…usually the G-T on the strong side so the under tackle can get singled against a guard. It’s pretty simple. All this technique stuff is just a different way of saying the same thing.
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I’m willing to bet that Oliver will not be asked to be the guy who takes on multiple blockers too often. But as I always say….it’s all in what you’re asking your DL to do.
I’ll take boring over over-drafted all day every day!!!!!!!!!!!
We’ve been boring for 20 years, so I’ll take my chance and overdraft! So there!
The first-year Alliance of American Football’s inability to secure cooperation from the NFL Players’ Association to use young players from NFL rosters has put the AAF in danger of folding, Tom Dundon, the league’s majority owner, told USA TODAY Sports on Wednesday.
“If the players union is not going to give us young players, we can’t be a development league,” said Dundon, who in February committed to invest $250 million into the league. “We are looking at our options, one of which is discontinuing the league.”
The NFLPA had no official response to the accusations that their lack of cooperation is prompting the AAF to fold.
However, a players’ union official did express serious concerns about the risks of lending active NFL players to the AAF. The official requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the issue.
it was the Union not the NFL owners.
Rockphin says:
April 5, 2019 at 1:49 pm
It wasn’t the NFL that killed them it was the PLAYERS ASSOCIATION. They only place I saw AAF game broadcast was on NFL network. The NFL gave them a platform (on their network) to show the games. I don’t think they were broadcast on NBC, CBS, ABC or FOX (I might be wrong there, but they DEFINITELY were shown on NFL network)
It was the players union that killed the league.
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True i should have phrased it like that the NFLPA
Randy – I get it, but many of us don’t think we’ll be using a NT that often, or at least not often enough to go crazy getting a true NT. Do you disagree with that?
We’ll likely bring in a guy who can play NT but it doesn’t have to be a premium draft pick.
I said it when he was drafted, Aaron Donald has the ability to get small better than almost anybody I’ve ever seen. He is a penetrator. He’s not a block holder. He’s allowed to utilize his strengths and shoot gaps. Oliver isn’t that same sort of player. Although Oliver has some quickness to him, he is strong at the point of attack. He is very good at using his hands to keep OL off him, and he is small and quick enough to get off blocks. I don’t see him as a penetrator. He controls the block with good hand technique and strength and then sheds it or gets past it with quickness. He doesn’t shoot gaps as much as he controls the blocker and gets past him. This may have been a product of where they played him too, as he was asked to play inside a lot. Still, why waste his talent occupying blockers when he could be a John Randle sort of guy? Play him at the 3 tech and let him beat single blocks.
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Tim Knight says:
April 5, 2019 at 2:02 pm
Last year. LOL
ROFLMAO!!!
Mike, the other time the Pats drafted OL in the1st was Nate Solder. They do draft OL in the 2nd and 3rd rounds pretty often.
I’m fine with the 2nd RD. Not too long ago we had three former 1st RD picks, Tunsil, James and Pouncey. . We still sucked!
True but we also had a hard time keeping all of them on the field together. Pouncey missed a bunch of time and so did James. Then Tunsil would miss a game or two or come out of a game. It was so frustrating.
MikeE,
Sorry, I’m confusing people with the use of NT. Really I’m just talking about the DT who’s asked to occupy blockers and not the guy who is singled up on a guard. There is that guy in both a 3-4 AND a 4-3. Some teams flip it in a 4-3 depending on alignment. Some teams play it straight up regardless. I don’t believe asking Oliver to be the guy to occupy multiple blockers is a good use of his skills. It all depends on what your DTs are asked to do. Sometimes, they’re both in there to grab guys and let LBers make plays. Sometimes they’re asked to shoot gaps. Sometimes they’re asked to fill a gap and hold the line. The whole idea of a 4-3 is that you want your DT to make plays and not just occupy space or blockers but that is still what they do on certain calls.
The opposing offense chooses to double team a player, not the defense.
a nose tackle or nose guard is the same thing. They are a defensive player that lines up over the football (or center) there is no other qualification about double teaming or such. a NT or NG LINES UP DIRECTLY over the football
Tom Dundan killed the AAF. The other owners didn’t want to fold, he had the power to do it unilaterally and did so once he realized the league needed NFL players to be viable and they weren’t going to get them.
Of course any league that thought they were going to get contracted NFL players to play for them during the NFL offseason was doomed from the start. Even if they Players Union agreed, guaranteed no team was going to want their commodities risking their health playing 8-10 additional football games. Heck, they don’t even want their players playing pickup games of basketball or riding dirt bikes. Dumb business model.
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you’re right. it was a poor business model. like the saying goes, businesses don’t plan to fail, they fail to plan and Ebersol really had a very poor business plan when he went into this. without getting owners of franchises and, instead, going ahead with a similar business model as the XFL he put the league at risk by allowing one huge investor to be able to control everything and just shut it down.
any league that wants to survive needs to get individual investors or a group of investors for each team in the league in order to have the greatest success so as to not concentrate power in the hands on one individual.
Mike E. says:
April 5, 2019 at 2:08 pm
Yeeeeaaaahhhh, well what about before that????
2011
but keep in mind they didn’t make a first round pick in 13, 16 or 17. (they traded out)
or lost it as a penalty for cheating
Tim,
Not always. You can create them with your alignment. That’s why it’s the 3 technique. You put the DT on the outside shoulder of the guard, so they can’t be doubled. The center can’t, and the tackle is blocking the end. That slight little shift in alignment is what causes the single teams. Sure, teams can use their tackle to double the guy but who’s blocking the end then? A RB or TE? That should be a win for the defense and teams hope offenses play it that way.
We’re not taking an OL at #13. It’s not happening
tee hee hee. I can’t wait.
Rock,
I played nose guard for umpteen years. I know what it is. But, I gotta stop using that term. It confuses things. My bad.
Then you know it is ONLY where you line up with no other qualifier.
Is umpteen between eleventy and twelve?
Randy, did you play Flag as a Peewee before you played tackle or did you just start off in tackle? The youth leagues in my area had age / weight limits to play tackle and I was too small in elementary / middle school to qualify so I had to play in the flag league until I got older. (even then I was playing in the 135’s at 95lbs because of my age)
The reason I ask is I am wondering if you played Nose in Peewee. We used to laugh that we even had linemen in flag football.
We didn’t have flag back then. There were weight class leagues but everything was tackle.
Rock,
Do some research. You’ll find out that there are “nose tackles” in some 4-3 alignments and it’s all in how you use them.
yes, if he lines up over the ball he is a NT. doesn’t matter how many down linemen there are. there can be 6 with their hand in the ground and No NT if no one lines up over the ball. OR the guy that does line up over the ball is the NT
Rock,
I started playing nose tackle in junior high football. I weighed, I’m guessing, about 140 pounds. I was quick as snot. Lol Back then, nobody cared how much anybody weighed. I never weighed more than 185 lbs. in high school and played against guys as big as 250. Hell, our FB was the biggest guy on our team at about 230-240. He hit me so hard once playing a game before school out in the yard that he bruised my tail bone from hitting the ground so hard. Hurt for 3 months.
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We played flag football in PE, but we had actual football teams from 7th grade on. Plus, we always played tackle football at breaks in school. We knocked the shit out of each other. Even our red rover games got ugly. Lol
Thursday evening April 25th around 9:30 pm a scream can be heard from MikeE’s house as the team trades back to the 22nd pick and gets more draft picks in day 2.
10:20 or so there is another scream heard from the residence as the miami dolphins pick a OT as their first pick. LOL
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 19 (TENN): Wilkins, Christian, DT, Clemson (A)
Round 2 Pick 16: Ferguson, Jaylon, DE, Louisiana Tech (A-)
Round 2 Pick 19 (TENN): Cajuste, Yodny, OT, West Virginia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 14: McCoy, Erik, OG/C, Texas AM (A+)
Round 3 Pick 18 (TENN): Benzschawel, Beau, OG, Wisconsin (A-)
Round 4 Pick 14: Brown, Blace, CB, Troy (A+)
Round 5 Pick 13: Granderson, Carl, DE, Wyoming (A+)
Round 7 Pick 19: Homer, Travis, RB, Miami (FL) (A+)
Round 7 Pick 20: Hansen, Justice, QB, Arkansas State (A+)
Nice trade getting a 2nd & 3rd from Tenn to move back 6 spots.
good draft too.
Randy & Tim, we all played tackle in the neighborhood but the organized non-school teams (in my area they were called the optimists for some reason) had age / weight restrictions. from 6 years old to 11 years old you played flag. at 12 if you were heavy enough you could start playing tackle. pretty much no one wanted to play flag once we hit middle school but the rules were the rules.
I went to a pretty big highschool (2,500 students) so I didn’t make the cut past JV my frosh year. (I was a late bloomer and didn’t get my final growth spurt until after I was 20. I grew 2 inches and gained 30 lbs in my early 20’s I went from 120 as a senior to 155 in about 2 years.
The schools in my area didn’t have Foot ball in Junior high. School football started in high-school. before that you played in the optimist leagues. (all volunteer coaches, fund raising drives for equipment, etc) We DID play on the school athletic fields but the teams were not associate with the school districts.
I think schools were structured a little different up north and down here too.
grades K-5 were elementary, 6,7&8th were middle school and 9-12 were highschool. there were no middle school football teams. (we had a really bad basket ball team and track teams in middle school)
NYC schools were K-6, Junior High was 7-9, and High School was 10-12
Thanks Rock, I’m still in trade back mode as well.
Rock,
Yeah, our elementary school went through 6th grade. Junior high was 7th and 8th grade. HS—-9-12th. Junior high is when you got into organized sports for us. There were no other organized sports back then….in school or out of school.
We had a few different schools in my town. Two were K-5, two were K-8 and then HS 9-12.
Rock,
Here is an excerpt from one article titled: “Beginner’s Guide to the 4-3 Defense”….from something called Chiefpigskin. There are many, many other articles out there. I just googled “4–3 nose tackle”. It’s not that big a deal….as I get what you were saying, but there is a nose tackle designation in certain 4-3 alignments. Again, the nomenclature doesn’t matter. It’s all in how you play them.
“4-3 OVER
Shown below is a diagram of the 4-3 OVER defense. It is a “cover 2” which means each safety has a deep half. Below the diagram will be alignment and assignment responsibilities along with recommendations for player capabilities.
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Alignment, Assignment, vs Run
Strong Side End – Align in a 9 technique outside shoulder of Tight End. If no TE align in a 5 technique. D gap or C gap responsibility. Biggest, strongest of the D ends.
Weak Side End – Align in a 5 technique outside shoulder of Weak Side Tackle. C gap responsibility. Usually faster and quicker than strong end.
Strong Side Tackle – Align in a 3 technique outside shoulder of Strong Guard. B gap responsibility. He should be your very best defensive lineman.
Nose Tackle – Align in a 1 technique on weak side of Center. A gap responsibility. Second best D lineman and they come in all sizes. Can be a big kid that plugs the gap or a smaller, quicker kid that wreaks havoc.
Mike Linebacker – Best linebacker over the strongside A gap. Should be physical enough to take on lead blockers. Flow strong – strong A gap. Flow weak – weak B gap.
Sam Linebacker – Second best linebacker aligns over C gap, outside shoulder of strong tackle. Flow strong – strong C gap. Flow weak – check cutback.
Will Linebacker – Align over the weak side B gap. Free to roam a little. Check B gap on flow to; be ready to go to alley on spill.
Safeties – Base coverage is deep half to their side. Strong Side Safety (SS) should be your best run support guy of the two safeties. Free Safety (FS) more of a cover guy. Run responsibility is A gap to alley/contain. Remember, these two guys are probably your “supermen”.
Corners – Base coverage is outside flat. Run responsibility is support on flow to; flow away, check counter/reverse then pursuit angle.”
This is the wide 9, seattle’s base. They had other concepts like the Leo and Elephant packages.
Believe it or not this is what they were trying to run with Gase both with and Vance and after. We never did it right. A lot of times the he inverted the responsibilities of the DE and the WOLB.
Per Adam Schefter:
Browns plan to sign former Orlando Apollos’ QB Garrett Gilbert. NFL quickly scooping up the best of the AAF.
Way to go Derron Smith! Pulling for the dude!
What did he do????
Nothing yet. Signed to the Vikings.
I don’t know if we’re going to sign any players from the AAF but I’d like to see us go after Randall Goforth, former safety from UCLA, Akrum Wadley, RB, Iowa and Jeremy Cutrer
I dont know if this has been posted here before, but im just reading it now. Wow.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/woman-harassed-74-year-old-man-wearing-maga-hat-starbucks-get-f-town-231628104.html
That’s right out of the bat shit crazy hateful leftist handbook that we’re dealing with today. Liberal my ass, sounds more totalitarian to me and you know why… because it is.
LOL
Sounds like at least she’s getting taught a lesson.
Surprised that guy made it to 74 with all these windmills out there causing cancer
Then there is this shit….really……
https://www.yahoo.com/news/jury-hart-mothers-drugged-killed-042434155.html
These are the markets for players now. This is why you need to draft well every year.
That is why you need to build from the draft and be careful where you place your FA money.
65 mil is the real number as that’s what’s guaranteed
Yeah I know and that keeps going up too.
I’ve got a huge problem with Brian Burns and that is he disappears for tons of plays at a time. In the Miami game he had a strip and a pressure but the remainder of the game he wasn’t anywhere near the action.
In both the BC and VT games he was a complete and total non-factor. For a guy who is getting so much hype I’m not understanding it. He’s a pass rush specialist at best as he doesn’t play the run well at all. If he played off ball and were able to play LB it would be a plus but he doesn’t do that.
I def have never wanted that guy.
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Breaking: Birmingham Iron OL Michael Dunn is expected to sign with Dolphins, pending physical
Don’t know anything about him.
He’s a OT, played at Maryland, was with Jacksonville and that’s all I know.
I see us drafting a couple of OL, signing a bunch of UDFA OL and dipping into the waiver wire as teams make cuts. The building of the OL will probably take two offseasons to get it to where we want it to be, but I think it gets started pretty heavy this offseason. It doesn’t mean we draft one in the 1st rd though we could, but I’d say we take two between the 2nd and 5th rounds.
yeah, I’d have to agree with that. there’s actually some pretty quality offensive linemen out there after the 1st into the later rds and even udfa’s
another interesting signing:
He’s not very big listed at 6-0 227 on the official site but he looks like an instinctive football player and he tackles well. Probably STs and backup projection.
Lou, lots of senior OL in this draft which I think is better because you want guys who have played a lot of games and they’re more developed both physically and mentally.
I’d say it’s pretty obvious OL is going to be a priority not just to upgrade but from a numbers perspective. This is all we have now if we do sign Dunn to the mix.
LT Tunsil/Dunn
LG Reed/Asiata
C Kilgore/Hilland
RG Davis
RT Sterup/Dunn
So going back to my earlier comments, 2 draftees, 4-5 UDFA and signing an experienced guy who was released would get us to 15 which you usually have for TC.
my thoughts exactly
https://twitter.com/41strange/status/1113612978446716929?s=21
I just did a mock draft and I’ve come to the conclusion that 1 of these 5 players will almost certainly be available to us @ R1P13: RASHAN GARY, BRIAN BURNS, CLELIN FERRELL, JONAH WILLIAMS, OR JAWAAN TAYLOR.
Yes, there’s a chance that 1 of the top-3 QBs could be there as well, if nobody trades up (unlikely that nobody trades up).
My question to y’all: who do ya like best out of the above 5 listed players, and why? GO!
1) Ferrell cuz we need a DE, although he is less our guy if we are goiing more traditional and heavy with a 3-4
2)Jawaan Taylor to have bookends for several years
Not a bad take, Naples. But are you going to go O-Line or D-Line in the 1st round, bud?
On defense Ferrell because when watching video of him he reminded me of Willie McGinest. He’s not on the same level as McGinest was coming out but he may be as good as Trey Flowers. He’s that hybrid DE/OLB.
On the OL Taylor is probably a top NFL RT for years to come but Jonah Williams gives us versatility and will also likely be a quality RT or G. I don’t think Taylor will be there for us unless more QBs than expected go off the board.
Not a bad take either, Tim. But would ya go O-Line or D-Line in the 1st round, bud?
I think it comes down to who we think is the BPA available. If there is no QB available we want to take at #13 if we stay there, then it’s between DL and OL in my opinion. I’d love it if we landed all three positions within the first 3 rounds.
We’re already setup to have a very competitive camp across the board with the exception of a few guys who will likely still be starters and major role players. But lots of positions will up for grabs. A new coaching staff is always looking for what have you done for me lately.
I agree with both Naples and Tim: I think Clelin Ferrell is the guy we like on Defense of the above 5 listed, and for the exact reasons they gave. He’s likely to be that hybrid player who can play every style/formation.
I agree with Tim that Jonah Williams is the more versatile O-Lineman of the 5 players listed above. And I agree with Naples that Jawaan Taylor = bookend Tackles for years.
Well I said the same thing about Taylor. 😉
Yes you did! 😉
So as the D-Line/EDGE depth is NICE this year… whereas the O-Line/Tackle depth isn’t… do ya go O-Line in the 1st and try to get a nice D-Line/EDGE prospect in the 2nd?
I think it’s kind of the same for both into the 3rd round.
This is just a hypothetical but it’s been a scenario I can see.
1. DL
2. OL
3. QB
4. OL
5. DL
7. Any
7. Any
I think we’re doubling up in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
It’s just me… strictly me… but I don’t think we’re interested in drafting a QB early this year unless he comes in the 4th round or later. Somebody like Tyree Jackson in the 4th would make sense to me.
Based on how Grier and Flores talk about team and players, always keep this in mind.
1. Loves football
2. Team first
3. Smart
4. Tough
5. Multiple
I don’t think they want one trick ponies and me attitudes.
I absolutely agree with you.
one of the reasons I don’t see them tanking. if they do happen to lose a lot of games this year and end up with a top 5 pick I think they trade down because they don’t want a big headed rookie making more than a lot of vets.
I’m not understanding where this 3-4 defense thing is coming from. I listened to what was said and they said the defense is going to be multiple. I didn’t hear anyone specifically say we were going with a 3-4 defense this year.
To me, I think we have times where we have 3 down linemen and maybe Harris standing up on the end like a LB in a 3-4 alignment and other times we may have more of a traditional 4 man front with guys who are larger DE’s like Carradine in the middle of the line to provide pass rush from the interior. I also think we see quite a bit more blitzing from different areas to keep offenses guessing.
If we were going 3-4 I’d say Oliver would be the better way to go because of his ability to move and be on the inside sometimes but also provide a rush from the outside as well.
Ed Oliver is going top-10, bet. What’s more, we will NOT be utilizing a STRICT 3-4 Defense, nor do I recall anybody saying as much. We’re going to be utilizing a hybrid Defense that can flex seamlessly between multiple Defensive looks.
Look for these hybrid players in the Draft.
I agree we won’t be utilizing a strict 3-4 but Naples mentioned it above and I saw one of the writers mention it on Twitter when they were looking at LJ Collier as an option who can play DE or LB in “their new 3-4”.
But, yeah, nobody on the team has ever said anything other than “multiple”
M13, I think Tyree Jackson is definitely a target for us but we may pull the trigger in the 3rd round. I view him the same way I did Mason Rudolph who you wanted in the 3rd last year. Dak Prescott was a 4th round pick. You can find quality QBs outside of the 1st if you have a good team. You can contend with them if they’re just good and not elite.
A guy like Jackson wouldn’t like;y be ready until 2020 but that’s okay.
Honestly, I don’t understand what anyone sees in this kid. He’s a great athlete and has a strong arm but he’s not much of a quarterback.
He’s 21 years old and the 3rd round is not a franchise defining round. You can’t teach his physical skills. To me he’s worth a shot.
Agreed with Tim, but I’d rather select him in the 4th round. Just me.
Physical skills are great but if he can’t play qb who cares how big his arm is or how athletic he is.
He’s a huge project at this point and even more than Tannehill was coming out of college and I really don’t want to see a quarterback running for 7 or 8 tds a year. If he’s got to do that it means he’s not getting it done as a passer.
You watch Jackson in his games and there’s a LOT of throws that are just downright awful. Just BAD
Tim,
I find it somewhat ironic that you remember the QBs I wanted us to draft in the recent past (3rd-4th rounders… and a certain UDFA), but I think it’s more imperative this year to reinforce the Lines as you have always preached.
Hey, it’s all good, my friend! 🙂
It’s not ironic, you promote your favorites often. LOL
We know Fitz can run the offense and be competent from great to bad. I think the type of person he is will be good for young QBs. So you have him and 2 of 3 from Jackson, Rudock and Falk. That’s not a bad way to start a rebuild in 2019. This team has too much to do to get caught up in we must have this to be great. We’re not there yet.
As fans we have to accept a rebuild because it’s happening. LOL
LOL @ a strict 3-4 defense. Not happening! 4-3-4, 3-4-4, 2-4-5, 3-3-5, 4-2-5, 4-1-6, 3-1-7.
yeah, between Armando and his tanking narrative and some other writer coming off with that 3-4 nonsense it’s not even worth reading any of them anymore.
Tim Knight says:
April 5, 2019 at 11:20 pm
It’s not ironic, you promote your favorites often. LOL…
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Who, me? 😀
Wyoming,
Thanks for posting the update on my dude Derron Smith signing with the Vikes!
ER,
I’m 100% with ya on wishing our dude the best of luck!
Lou, Jackson played QB and showed a lot of intangibles. Were you at your best with whatever you did at 21 years old? I was at my best physically, mentally and musically in my early to mid 30’s.
M13, 3rd or 4th rd doesn’t mean much to me. We’ll see.
Indeed! We shall see… and I’m optimistic, Bro! 😀
Lou, Tyree Jackson isn’t going at #8 so can we move on from Tannehill? LOL
Tim,
again, just because he has the physical characteristics doesn’t mean he’s ever going to turn into a quarterback. he wasn’t that good at BUF. Picking him in the 4th would just be a waste of a pick when we could utilize it for something else like offensive line.
I’d rather take a quarterback who has the traits you look for in a quarterback, like he can play the position for one thing.
Tim Knight says:
April 5, 2019 at 11:23 pm
LOL @ a strict 3-4 defense. Not happening! 4-3-4, 3-4-4, 2-4-5, 3-3-5, 4-2-5, 4-1-6, 3-1-7.
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professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
April 5, 2019 at 11:32 pm
yeah, between Armando and his tanking narrative and some other writer coming off with that 3-4 nonsense it’s not even worth reading any of them anymore.
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they will most likely have a 3-4 base defense, that’s why i don’t rule out taking a NT at 13
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Dexter Lawrence would make a good 3-4 NT
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I love fingerless gloves.
So,
not being argumentative, please,
nor do I wish to be defining our formations or predicting our draft picks,
because i have said that i have no idea what the new FO / HC/OC/DC
will be trying to accomplish this draft,
BUT
if you look at their moves so far
they did NOT empty their DB, LB, K/P, and WR rooms,
and they augmented their TE and QB rooms.
jus’ sayin’
and they DID empty their RB / OL / DL rooms to the bare minimum,
especially reducing the DE and OG to the point that we can’t really
play a season with what we have left.
No team ever starts a season with just 2 RBs, either.
Those are the only roster clues we have as to what they will be drafting
and what Offense and Defense they will be running..
PS: to reiterate, the FO brought in TWO QBs, a vet and a kid,
both known quantities to THEM and who fit the profile the HC wants on the team.
The press conferences of all the FO, HC, and owner seem to point to signing their type players and cutting guys they don’t want ruthlessly without trying to finesse a graual makeover.
Gase was on his way to a 3-yr roster reset with the idea of winning the Division in year 4-5,
but he never got the chance to finish that.
I think the message we are getting is NOT to do another slo-mo “keep it respectable” rebuild.
Instead, we are going to flush everybody who does not meet the criteria ASAP, to hell with the W-L record which that approach yields in the first year.
I look for that purging to continue as the coaches watch how the guys work out, their locker room persona, and their response to coaching.
As for the defensive scheme, the day of the “strict” 4-3 / 3/4 dichotomy is gone, at least for now.
Coaches can too easily game-plan for you if they know you that well.
So I was not saying we are “changing” to a 3-4.
Because we are sure as hell not telling the league in April what we’ll be running in September.
But if we look at the system(s) from which our new coaches came,
it would be stupid to overlook the bellichek influence
Not only were our HC / DC / OC all TRAINED to coach that way,
but that way WORKS to the tune of Dominance on an epic scale.
Why would we not run that defense, and why would we as fans not want them to?
It just shut down the Rams in a historical duffocating fashion.
Why would we not run that offense, as it gives a mediocre athlete a chance to be HoF level.
And it averages a winning, exciting points per game while dominating time of possession.
But the Pats don’t play a 3-4 defense. They don’t have a base D. That’s one of the things that makes it so difficult to game plan against them is you can’t look at what they do in one game and think it’s going to apply to how they’ll play you.
Exactly correct. and exactly what i am saying.
If we CAN’T play a valid 3-4 in situations that call for it, then we get run over.
It happened every game last year.
That is that feeling we all got that the defense couldn’t stop them when we needed a stop. We couldn’t get off the field on 3rd downs, and we could not stop the game- winning drives late.
NE might not advertise they run a 3-4, but they run a mean, nasty, run-stuffing 3-4 whenever they want to and whenever you are praying they don’t.
With our personnel and our mindset, we CAN’T run a 3-4. Flores will change that.
So with all those clues peeking through the belllicheat smokescreen pressers,
we can see we need a big body DT (new-gen NT)
so teams can’t run up the gut on us like they did last year.
such as Dex Lawrence.
and bigger, edge-setter DEs than the 3 we let go,
so we don’t get trampled by new-gen student body left sweeps.
such as Clelin Ferrell.
Why do I mention only Clemson guys? Because our new DL coach was their college coach.
I think that can’t be overlooked, especially because Clemson won 2 national championships with his DL and all those kids loved him. He made Dex and Ferrell the players they are.
And he can take them to success on the next level because they both have all the tools.
But I am sure there are other DL we would be happy to have that fit the HC’s prototype.
And we MUST have the kind of reliability at OL that Brady has had.
“Just do your job” type guys. Whatever the round they are found in.
That’s why I think we will and need to draft DT, DE, RT, LG, and RB.
Two of each please.
After the draft, we will then fill in what we couldn’t get in UDFA and street FAs.
I think we’ll be looking for dependable OL too, just not at #13. I think we’re either going QB, DE or DT at #13
I don’t think a guy on the nose is going to be any more important than the ends and the ends will probably be even more important. We could use Taylor on the nose if we’re going to go that route from time to time. We don’t need to pick up a guy like Lawrence to do that.
NE doesn’t play a run stuffing defense. Their d gets up the field quickly and disrupts running plays before they get to even start. They don’t take on blocks and play off them like a typical NT would in the run game.
That’s why you want a guy like Lawrence. He’s not a typical NT at all. He’s an upfield disrupter. In fact that is what Clemson coaches their DL to do, which is why their D is so hard for college kids to play against.
Glad to see we added another OT to the squad. Though, from the AAF, dude looks good on tape. Likes to punish guys when blocking. I like guys like that. They can wear a defense down.
Sung is an “expert”
He is correct on Montez Sweat
Minschew in the 5th, hmmmmmmmmmm. I’ll take that! No CB in top 4 picks though. No thank you.
I also Like Travis Homer in the 7th.
I think he wasted pick #4 in not getting another OL or a DT there.
I hate Montez Sweat, great player, horrible person
Naples, With Tunsil, Sterup and Dunn at Tackle and, at least, Reed, Daivs and Asaita at OG. I think we are really set up to take DE or DT in the 1st with me leaning toward DE in the 1st. Unless Ed Oliver is there at #13 who I feel can play 3-4 DE with his quickness like Vincent Taylor. I am also thinking Ferrell or Sweat. If we trade down, I see us possibly taking DE who still may be there or taking DT’s Wilkins or Lawrence. I don’t really want Simmons cause I want someone who can learn and play year 1 and not rehabbing. I see us taking at least 1 OT and 1 OG between picks 2-5.
I agree with pretty much all that.
I do NOT want either Sweat or Simmons.
We are not a gelled and matured team.
We need solid dependable players to build with.
We don’t need disrupters, distractors, or even high risk / high reward guys.
We need the closest thing to a sure thing we can get and
we need work a holics and ultimate team players.
Would be OK with a QB in 5th like Minschew or the big Buffalo QB. Maybe trade back in the 5th to gain a 6th and take Brett Rypien in the 6th.
I don’t see us drafting a RB and I see no valid reason to do it either. We have two really good drafted RBs. Filler can be found as late as….undrafted. I agree with Naples on most of the rest of what he’s saying except I also think DE is the preferable choice if the right guy is there. We can get some great building blocks this year and Fitz is a solid QB. Just about everything is on the table except for TE this year. Going to be interesting to see what our top notch drafting group goes with.
So Miami IS aware there are AAF players available,
I’m not aware if the OL guy they got from Birmingham is any good, hopefully he is.
I’ve never even heard of him, but he may be able to provide some depth to the OL.
And It’s actually good to see Miami finally caught on to a low risk talent pool.
But this makes it all the more puzzling they made no attempt on Gilbert.
now if they just kick the tires on Johnson and Okine, this team has improved before the draft
It feels like the browns keep licking the red off our candy, lol dammit brownies
They used to be an example of piss poor management, then they turned it around, got better people that can evaluate , in management..
Miami is also an example of piss poor management, and I’m hoping we can improve as well, especially when we have examples to look at.
Denial isn’t helpful, instead We have to realize who and what We are, so we can find ways to improve.
I am excited at the changes in management so far, including our new coaches, and can’t wait to see things get turned around here.
Miami is or should be a doormat team in 2019, in the bottom third of the NFL, with a journeyman reject interception machine at the QB position.
Our best talent, is wearing other teams uni,s. This screams rebuild, and some say tank, but I’m not down with the tank concept.
But This is a total rebuild from the bottom up, which makes drafting and FA acquisition vital to our improvement .
We loaded the coaching cabinet, now it’s time to stock up on the player pantry
Tons of folks criticized Grudens decision to trade Mack for some picks.
Including Myself, it looked foolish on paper.
But no ones criticizing the Raiders in the draft this year, those extra picks could help them rebuild.
In retrospect, Mack was in his prime, and could they got max trade value out of him.
I’m still SMH at the Mack trade, but I DO unspderstand the need for the draft to fill up Your wish list.
Mack is only one player, a helluva player, but Raiders need so much more
Of course If they draft poorly,,,, Lol. Then Yea they fucked up
As for the 4-3/3-4 debate, why don’t we wait and see what we do then we’ll all have the answer. 🙂
I hope it’s 4/3,
I’m not a fan of the 3/4, we never seem to have a good pash rush when we line up 3/4
NOTICED BBM’s run down of current O-Linemen. After Tunsil, the O-Line is a DISASTER IN THE MAKING!!! POSSIBLY the worst in the entire NFL!!! Do we REALLY WANT TO acquire a quarterback and put him behind a horrid O-Line AGAIN??? UNLESS Miami moves up in the draft to get Haskins, they should use their top pick for the BEST O-LINEMAN AVAILABLE. The tackle from Florida (Taylor?) is thought by some to be the #1 lineman coming out this year. IF Miami’s FO likes another O-Lineman better, then they SHOULD GET HIM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IMHO.
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The somewhat good news is , we don’t have a Quarterback to protect
Many mocks have Us taking OL in the first, to protect the franchise QB that isn’t on the roster.
I guess there are two ways to look at it, but we do have some top talent on the OL, Tunsil was a number one pick, we have a much bigger need at QB.
QB selected first round have a much higher success rate in the NFL. So I’m thinking we can get OL in the second round
If we don’t get a top QB, a first round OL won’t be able to lead the team down the field
That was actually Tim’s run down of OL.
NewAge, I am with you on RB and where we can fill that void. I just like Travis Homer in the 7th if he is there. He is a Frank Gore type RB, IMO and would compliment Drake and Balladge very well.
If we select an OL in the first, then Fitzpatrick should have more time to select his interception targets.
That’s not going to help, lol
iPad crashed and I replied to You by mistake. I think I need a new one.
Above statement was meant as a reply to OD.
OD, I am going to give this coaching staff a chance. IMO, we had horrible coaching under Gase on both sides of the ball. I believe we will see improvement of OT Sterup and OG Davis under these new coaches. Possibly even Asaita (sp?) There is a reason they are still on the roster and a reason they brought Sterup back. I do want to see at least 2 OL drafted preferably in the first 4 rounds. There are some good interior OL in this draft who will be available even in the 4th.