2019 – Daniel Jones RD1 #6 (Kyler Murray #1)
2018 – Sam Darnold RD1 #3 (Baker Mayfield #1)
2017 – Patrick Mahomes RD1 #10 (Mitchell Trubisky #2)
2016 – Carson Wentz RD1 #2 (Jared Goff #1)
2015 – Marcus Mariota RD1 #2 (Jameis Winston #1)
2014 – Johnny Manziel RD1 #22 (Blake Bortles #3)
2013 – Geno Smith RD2 #22 (E.J. Manuel #16)
2012 – Robert Griffin III #2 (Andrew Luck #1)
2011 – Jake Locker RD1 #8 (Cam Newton #1)
2010 – Tim Tebow RD1 #25 (Sam Bradford #1)
2009 – Mark Sanchez RD1 #5 (Matthew Stafford #1)
2008 – Joe Flacco RD1 #18 (Matt Ryan #3)
2007 – Brady Quinn RD1 #22 (Jamarcus Russell #1)
2006 – Matt Leinart RD#1 #10 (Vince Young #3)
2005 – Aaron Rodgers RD1 #24 (Alex Smith #1)
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So that’s the list of the second QB drafted in each of the last 15 drafts. What’s sometimes more surprising than where they were taken is who was the QB drafted before them and where they were taken. Geno Smith as the second QB taken all the way at pick #54, and E.J. Manuel was the only 1st RD QB in 2013. Patrick Mahomes at #10 8 picks later than Mitch Trubisky eh? There were only 3 years where QB’s went #1 and #2, 2016, 2015 and 2012. Just so you know, I don’t believe this shows any more scientific evidence, but it’s interesting to look at the past, which sometimes reveals the future. I also understand that 15 years ago, the NFL was a different game than the 2020 version but the interesting thing is how much money these first round players were getting paid. We know it all changed after Sam Bradford was drafted #1 in 2010 and signed the most lucrative rookie contract ever in the NFL, 6 YR/$78M with $50M Guaranteed. Aaron Rodgers who slid to #24 in 2005 signed a 5 YR/$7.65M contract.
Let’s start from 2005 and we’ll work our way back to the present. Aaron Rodgers waited 3 full seasons before his 1st start with Brett Favre as the starter. Matt Leinart started after 5 games behind Kurt Warner and finished 4-7. Brady Quinn didn’t start until season 2 and started only 3 games behind Derek Anderson. Joe Flacco started immediately for a stacked Ravens team and went 11-5. Mark Sanchez started immediately for MTP and the Jets and finished 8-7. Tim Tebow started only 3 games but played a fair amount in 9 games although not necessarily as a passer. Jake Locker sat out his entire rookie season. RG III was damn well going to start after they traded a boatload of 1st RD picks for him and he was brilliant until he got injured. The only 2nd RD QB in this group, Geno Smith, started his entire rookie season but Matt Simms was their other QB (who?). Johnny Manziel started only 2 games and was just awful. Marcus Mariota started 12 games and played well but the Titans were pretty bad and they finished 3-9 in his starts. Carson Wentz started immediately and played well although the Iggles went 7-9. Patrick Mahomes started game 16 and won. He’s the guy I consider most similar with Tua. I’ll explain more later. Sam Darnold started 13 games, sat out the first 3 behind Josh McCown. Some may say this is the closest situation to Tua and Fitzpatrick and they might be right. Finally, Daniel Jones started after 4 games and played pretty well despite his 3-9 record.
Why do I think Tua/Fitzpatrick is most similar to Mahomes/Smith? I see 2 veteran QB’s who both have the respect of their HC. Fitzpatrick said it himself, he’ll help Tua in any way he can but Ryan Fitzpatrick wants to be the starting QB this season. Of course mitigating circumstances will no doubt affect how soon Tua starts and I’m not talking about Tua’s health, I’m talking the health of the nation and the Coronavirus pandemic. Having a virtual offseason is not doing Tua any favors. There are rumblings that teams may be able to start OTA’s in June but I fell that unless every single team and their respective states are able to open, that’s not going to happen. Cali is probably the linchpin because they are the least likely to be willing to open up and if they don’t, I don’t see any teams opening because you can’t have some teams working and others not, that takes away the whole parity theme the NFL is built on.
I’ve made it clear (w/o having any actual medical records for Tua) that I feel it would be best to let Ryan Fitzpatrick run this team and if there’s a point of the season where we’re out of it, and Tua is 100%, then I’m fine with giving him the reins, as long as the O-line isn’t a bunch of matadors. On the other hand, I really can’t imagine that he would start immediately, I think that would blow my mind. I want to see what Tua can do, I’m excited that we have arguably the most talented QB in this draft and the most talented QB we’ve had over the last 21 years since Dan Marino left the building. Still, I can’t help but feel that after that devastating hip injury, time will be Tua’s friend. We have so many new faces on our team and we could conceivably have 4-5 new starters on our O-line. Jackson LT, Flowers LG, Karras C, Hunt RG and Davis RT, that’s 4. Plug Kindley in at RG and Hunt at RT that’s 5. Think they might take some time to jell? I don’t want our new QB subjected to that kind of situation, no sir!
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this, let em rip!
GO DOLPHINS!!!
#staythecourse
Finsmob Unleashed 
I’m reading all this nonsense on my FB timeline, it makes me honestly want to load all these people on a truck and drive it off a cliff. Everyone feels so justified and altruistic telling people how to feel and how to think etc etc etc. I also have to laugh at justifying people destroying a store and walking out with a 60″ LED TV by calling them “protestors”. That’s fucking total lawlessness and it’s NOT justified. Peoples lives were destroyed by these so called “protestors”. Yeah, they weren’t killed, but their lives are ruined nonetheless. The killings of Ahmaud Arbery and George Floyd were despicable and heartbreaking. That doesn’t mean it’s OK to throw firebombs and burn down stores and break into businesses and steal. How are those 2 things even remotely related? People keep saying if you’re more upset about the looters than the killing itself there’s something wrong. I say there’s something wrong with you if you don’t think both are fucked up! Semantics as to which is worse.
When Muhammad Noor was charged and arrested for shooting the Australian woman in Minneapolis the charge was initially 3rd degree murder. They later added 2nd degree manslaughter, which is a more severe charge. Noor was found guilty of both and ended up getting 12.5 years.
Don’t Whatabout! lol
Lol…just pointing out the likely outcome.
History being a pretty good indicator of the future.
Cops like this are the back side of liberal HR policies and politics. They were known bad actors, multiple incidents, yet they were still on the force because their union and HR policies mandated by the government (city through federal) make it almost impossible to fire them. Police chiefs and upper management are politicians. Mayors pander. None of them want to do the hard thing and get rid of people who shouldn’t be given authority, because they do want to deal with the EEOC and lawsuits.
The police unions are generally very powerful (I think we can call that liberal HR policy too)
So it’s not easy to fire a bad actor
I really personally don’t want to do to much to undermine unions and the process
But their are unquestionably bad actors that get away with it for the reasons you stated
But honestly accountability is only part of the problem here
I think general policy about how we police is ripe for changes so we can prevent incidents like this
Why do you continue to make this political? IT’S RACISM! Deal with it!
Yes, it was an act of individual racism, now being used to further political goals, personal and institutional, on both ends of the spectrum.
As for the looters and arsonists, they give the racists out there a perfect opportunity to say “See…we told you!” At a moment when there near unanimous outrage and support, the protestors and leaders let people who could care less about what happened and justice hijack that moment. Now all anyone sees is the destruction and lawlessness.
A lot of the looters are white
https://twitter.com/freeyourmindkid/status/1266661155994550272?s=21
This guy has a thread about it with videos and different observations
I think you are right though, racists will say “we told you so”
I already said that.
I DON’T KNOW A SINGLE PERSON who supports looting and arson. Unquestionably, though, there are criminal minds out there who will commit illegal acts IF THEY THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT!!! –Study the crowds of looters carefully. There are people of all colors — and ALL AGES–committing these heinous acts. In one case I saw evidence of old, fat, white guys and at least one old,fat, white female walking out of a store with their ill-gotten goods. THEY SURE AS SHIT don’t represent MY age group!! But they chose to, as PHELON says, “hijack the moment.” But, remember this. The OPPORTUNITY to loot and commit arson would not exist but for the actions–the grossly illegal actions, of a small minority of police officers who either participated in a murder in broad daylight or stood by and did nothing while a murder was being committed!!
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There are many thousands of victims of this one illegal act all across America. Not the least of which are the GOOD POLICE OFFICERS who try every day to do the right thing. And the shop owners, both black and white, who’ve seen their businesses go up in smoke!! As the nation wide protests continue, there will be be more deaths and countless millions of dollars of property damage caused by that irresponsible act in Minnesota.
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RACISM is killing our country. The costs are absolutely enormous. And as long as racism is supported, or, at least tolerated, by too many people, it will continue to raise its’ head from time to time and devastate wide areas of our nation.
Too many people see law enforcement as THE CAUSE of lawlessness rather than the protector from lawless behavior. THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. And we can start by making an example of not only the criminal behavior of Minneapolis police, but also the criminal behavior of those who burn and loot. PROSECUTE THEM TO THE HILT!! ONLY THEN will those who lean toward misbehavior think twice before choosing to violate the laws of a civilized society.
ONLY THEN will we NOT NEED the Colin Kaepernick’s of the world to remind us of the criminal misdeeds of the past.
WOW…..we agree 100%. Nice OD.
Don’t give Kaepernick any props. He incites violence, lawlessness, and racism. He doesn’t want racial peace or equity. He was calling for a violent uprising even as the country was voicing support for the arrest of Floyd’s killers. He wasn’t asking for peaceful protest that most everyone supported. He was calling for the black community to “revolt.”
In college it’s been more the norm to stop hazing in the frats, it’s about time to stop the police brotherhood, that kept the other 3 cops from stopping the murdering cop.
Then there’s the issue of why didn’t his supervisor have him removed, might be the union thing.
Yeah – I think it’s possible to change mindsets
There’s a lot of videos on twitter floating around
Generally they confirm what I’ve always believed
We are surrounded by lunatics…lol
I mean everyone is doing something I question as a smart thing to do
But there are quite a few about police responding to protesters, sometimes in view of supervisors, that make me believe there is just something about
I dont want to give cops a hard time bc I have a few friends on the hype that I know on a personal level and I can’t imagine them acting like what I see on the videos
But there a quote a few police I see in the videos that I don’t want employed as well
When I was a kid I remember hearing cops taking the law into their own hands, because they felt like the legal system wasn’t adequate. They’d either see the same people doing a similar crime over and over without much punishment or just people in general.
I think this may be the reason for these bad cops now and not racism. I’m not justifying their actions, just trying to show motive.
Piggy – So are the white looters just as distraught as the black ones?
Does it really matter how they feel about it if racists are just going to blame black people anyway?
I don’t know how anyone feels about it or what their motivation is
Minnesota is close to 90% white. I read on wiki that Minneapolis is 64% white which is really high for an urban area.
Both the peaceful protests and the ones that aren’t so peaceful (if you want to call that a protest) are pretty diverse
It’s really not uncommon when protests on anything take place to have people come from outside the city to be involved. There is a pretty good chance that the people who are looting aren’t destroying their own community even though people keep saying they are destroying their own community
I think Phish is right, racists people are going to blame black communities. But the point is, aside from the conclusion being racist, it’s not even an accurate assessment of who is doing it. But it won’t stop racists from blaming minorities….that’s why they are racist to begin with….lol
In all seriousness, I think a lot of people of different backgrounds are very distraught about what they saw on that video – it’s fucking crazy
The property damage in the communities shouldn’t really take away from the message that something is very wrong not just for that police officer to act that way but for the other officers to help it
Your last 2 paragraphs were spot on. Imo.
Just the last 2….lol
Nobody ever looted, because of an injustice, they loot, because of an opportunity.
Maybe it’s because they’re angry? Such a stupid comment and DEFLECTION.
And have these people not heard of Social Distancing?? WTF.
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_llJVhX8vGAep7Ve-SzfITr9HSO3kidkzM
SOOOOOO
Thinking about Racism and the thoughts of the board today.
As I was on my trip to Lowes this morning I found that I was a bit more guarded than normal.
I was avoiding groups of people. And especially African Americans (I hate that phrase).
So I don’t know what message the Marches, riots (whatever you want to call them) are trying to send?
But that’s definitely the one I received!!!!!!
Know I’m setting here wondering why after 52 years I am starting to think like that???
SMH
Wake the fuck up. Why are you scared? I think you’re better than that.
Didn’t say I was scared said I was guarded!
You can’t make yourself feel differently!
Guess I should have just had a beer instead of posting???
Ok guarded. …why? You should have a beer. I would love to have a beer with you, even if you’re white and country.
Piggy say, “ I think Phish is right.” I want you all to remember this reply as the correct reply for all things and subjects.
Your last 2 paragraphs were spot on. Imo.
Duplocate post to Piggy. Sorry.
When will white people get it?
Probably never. Lol….they’re white!
When you ascribe the actions of a few to an entire class of people, you are no better than the people you are railing against. It’s the root of racism.
Seriously pp, what does that mean? I’m not subscribing anything. Just pointing out racism when I see it. So simple.
Why can’t you see it, blinders?
Apparently, I got it long before you since you still don’t get it. What it means is that you are either as racist as can be found or, if you are white, suffer from some kind of fucked up white guilt. There is all kinds of racism out there. You question when white people will get it (whatever “it” is) as if every single white person doesn’t. And you do it from some imagined morally superior pulpit that no one else sees. Since you get it and we White rednecks from the country don’t, why don’t you tell us what “it” is and how you know so much about it. Teach us.
That’s a racist comment.
You’re clueless…and your racism reaks.
And a reason, along with the rioting, why nothing changes.
You are part of the problem, you think the same way the dems want you to think.
In real society, not a mob society or dem society, you solve problems by getting together and compromising. Or just say what can I do myself, everyone wants to blame someone else.
You are the problem. It’s shameful.
Piggy – I don’t know man. I just don’t equate being so upset about a crime committed against my race or religion that it will make me hop into my car and drive to a Target or any other business and throw a firebomb at it and then proceed to take any merchandise I feel like taking. How does one thing become the other. Not that it would be right but I would understand attacking white cops from that town, but how their anger translates to destruction and thievery I don’t get.
You are white, Mike E. Don’t ever think you have a better hand in this culture, YOU DO. Fact.
I know all about the privilege of being white. Like I said, if I was that angry about it I’d drive to the nearest police station and find the first white cop and take him out. Are black peoples minds special or something? Does anger cause the need to steal and destroy? I don’t see what you’re saying, and it’s not because I’m white.
Do you? How can you?
Piggy – A good start to the policing problem you mentioned would be to return to community policing and to demilitarize the police. That requires communities to be part of the solution and to help police themselves.
Unfortunately, disrespect for the law and each other have become too common. Basic civility, courtesy, and self-responsibility are no longer the norm. Now it’s all about me, me,me.
Damn you clouds!
Hmmmm….I don’t know of any community disrespecting the police. Don’t all communities want their kids to be safe and have a great relationship with their protectors? Such a bullshit statement.
Most clueless post of the day.
Ad hominem histrionics. Want to see a community that doesn’t the police? Pick a neighborhood in Baltimore. Odds are you will find one on the first try.
When it comes to race wish could be more like my wife. She just doesn’t see color…. only people. Part of it is her heart but another part is she went to a Southern high school where most were white, some were black or hispanic and almost no one like her. Think like a total of 5 Asians in the place. There was no “Asian identity” for her. So she just judged each person on their own terms. Way everyone should be.
Absolutely. Same in most military units. Something about putting your life in each other’s hands.
Military, sports teams, fire fighters and — yes — law enforcement show that prejudice can be defeated.
The neighborhood I grew up in was probably 95% white. The High School I went to was 60% black. I was the minority.
It doesn’t matter, you’re either white and racist or white and conform to identity politics.
I think it’s “funny” people like pp and steveccnv are calling me out about racism. Look in the mirror and see the truth. Lol!
Because you’re all in on the scam that is identity politics, doesn’t make you immune to being racist. It’s like someone on here that has an Asian wife, so he can’t be racist.
Could be because you fit all the criteria for being a racist based on what you’ve written here today. And your best argument has been to call us racist. Classic projection in psychological terms.
Well I guess the good news is we aught to just open up the rest of the country for business!
We are definitely into the herd immunity stage now!
Yep. Lol.
Was thinking the same thing watching the riots. All these fucks are really doing is destroying sanctuary cities.
What criteria do I fit as being racist? Please provide me that list. What a dick.
You’re not, was just trying to get you to see what it was like to be called something you’re not, and I see I struck a nerve.
It was not a nerve, it was a lie!
So I didn’t strike your nerve I struck your lie. Now everything makes sense.
And to be clear…. you espouse racist comments. It’s out there. Back the fuck off.
Krishna — I don’t think you are a racist. 🙂
Let’s see:
“ When will white people get it?” , “Probably never…they’re white!”
This is the ascribing (not subscribing – that what you do to magazines) actions to an entire class, that you didn’t get. The analogy would be someone say, “Why do blacks commit crimes? Oh…because they’re black.” Same same – both are racist statements.
“You are white, Mike E. Don’t ever think you have a better hand in this culture, YOU DO. Fact” followed by “Do you? How can you?” The old “you would understand” thing usually trotted out when you don’t have an actual….you know…basis for something you’ve said.
Finally, calling everyone with whom you disagree with a racist.
I don’t actually think you are a racist, Krishna. I think you are a histrionic always, clueless dipshit that isn’t worth conversing with. You are convinced of your moral superiority and that’s what it is really all about – you feeling superior to someone else. Maybe you are depressed or insecure. I hear Fluoxetine can help.
Anyway, I’m still waiting for you to tell us why you are so superior…what are your firsthand experiences with racism? Where did they happen? What were the circumstances? To re-frame your question to Mike, how can you know?
It was your lie Steve, not mine. Typical.
Good point WY.
Last week we were killing everyone by going outside….according to the media. Now not a peep about the pandemic with everyone gathered together yelling and screaming, which they have shown to be the easiest way to spread it. Interesting……
A lie usually comes full circle, when 2 ideas from the same group contradict each other.
I’m confused. What is “the same group”?
I don’t lie. Truth can be painful.
You just contradicted yourself, unless you’re a masochist.
How so? I can learn to be better. You?
I’m going to do a little research.
But my guts tell me the majority of the deaths from Corona virus are from the cities being burned?
Hundred thousand deaths. Pretty serious stuff.
43% of the deaths came from nursing homes and assisted living facilities.
It’s definitely the Logan’s Run disease (old movie about everyone under 30 being eliminated). I’m not in the prime risk range, but not that far out of it either.
Love that movie. Jan Michael Vincent, right?
Had to look up, but lead was Michael York. What do remember without checking is Farrah Fawcett’s first big screen role…. even if only for like 3 minutes. Yeah had a crush on her like a lot of young teenage boys.
I don’t know what point you are making
But Minneapolis has less than 1000 coronavirus deaths and nothing in NYC is burning as far as I know
So if you are comparing city to city – the answer is Not even close!
If you are comparing city to rural areas, there is a correlation – but of course there is
The virus spreads from person to person
And protests are only going on in populous areas
It’s pretty random to connect those dots
And means nothing
Lol….at the bullshit pp and stevecc keep putting out. Makes me sad we have to keep looking in the past. When we ever evolve?
Calling ME a racist is rich … and ignorant.
LOL…I hope feel better
SBJ…are you drinking already?
Step up pp… what the fuck ? I can’t possibly respond to the bs nonsense here
Let me know what you are referring to and I will address you directly..
Enough of you lot for now. It’s a beautiful day and it’s 7 pm in London. The pool and a Mimosa are calling.
What the hell has that to do with 7 PM?????
Jimmy Buffet time. 5 o’clock somewhere.
Mike
I don’t equate it that way either
But civil unrest does have a history
The Boston Tea Party is a pretty good example
I think it can send a message – the problem is sending messages doesn’t always change behavior or lead to a solution, sometimes it just causes more fights
I don’t perosnally see looting as a great way to send a message
But I also find myself not understanding about 90% of the behavior of other people
Im not so sure that reasonable people are so far apart on what they believe should be done, so to a certain extent I question why anyone feels compelled to try to send any message at all – even if it’s done peacefully
And of course, maybe it’s just some ones selfish motives (it probably is)
If some one takes a tv from target, they probably actually wanted a tv and not to send a message….lol
But generally speaking, it’s a complicated situation
We have rational people who are angry, irrational people who are angry, people who don’t care, opportunists and people with an agenda
There’s a Lot going on all at the same time
Some of the things in that twitter feed are suggesting that people are trying to pour gasoline on the flames and have nothing to do with a reaction
There is one video of a white guy smashing windows of a hardware store and then being confronted by a young black guy
Then a lady posted that it’s her ex, and he is a cop from St. Paul police dept. Its not exactly reliable bc it’s twitter, and the identity of the guy hasn’t been verified – for all I know it’s just a rumor…and 90% of what you read on social media is bs
But I mean clearly the guy had no intention to even enter the store and just bashed windows and left – it was really strange
I also thing the police are really doing a poor job of policing these protests in general
I’m watching them pepper spray random protesters and not do anything to Protect stores like target. I saw a clip of a huge NYPD guy throw a 90pound woman causing her to be hospitalized and I don’t really think she deserved that reaction
Some really strange stuff going on in general
I’m trying not to judge anything to harshly at this point…even the looting which is something I can’t fathom doing
When it’s said and done I want to keep my eye on the ball and take steps to prevent what happened to that guy from happening again
But riots and looting are counterproductive. That goes for the impression “white folks” get and just for the places where these folks live. A huge complaint is businesses won’t come in and then….. you get now. You want proper civil unrest go to MLK. Talking daytime marches and things like boycotts. He had the answer 60 years ago….. and things were worse for minority communities then.
SBJ…. for you pp.
Well you are choosing the two you are most likely to disagree with. So if you want a “discussion” those are your guys.
YEP
I’m still waiting for the Krishna racism list… Seriously? Bring IT.
Or SHUT THE FUCK UP!
I don’t think you are racist
I think that clears it up….lol
Take your foot off the pedal for a minute and relax
Gonna be a lot of people here that disagree with each other
We aren’t going to solve racism on a blog which is predominantly populated by middle aged white guys
So let’s put that issue to bed…okay?
OK…. game. Don’t ever call me a racist when I see it on this blog and call it out. Fuck that. I am not a sheep.
Okay with me. Communication was only going one way any how.
pheloniusphish says:
May 30, 2020 at 12:37 pm (Edit)
Piggy – A good start to the policing problem you mentioned would be to return to community policing and to demilitarize the police. That requires communities to be part of the solution and to help police themselves.
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I don’t know about community policing, but I do think demilitarizing the police is key.
It’s crazy what they have access too. They have weapons like they are fighting in the Afghanistan
Even sometimes when I walk through grand central on peaceful days I am wondering why the heck they have the gear they do
But that wasn’t exactly what I was thinking about – there’s just some basic fundamentals
Some of the day to day practice of the police in urban settings just runs contrary to our search and seizure law
A lot of has to deal with evidence and what is valid evidence in a criminal trial
Police can’t stop some one unless they have probable cause
But things can escalate to create probably cause
And then evidence uncovered is admissible evidence
So there is almost a burden for police to create probably cause in what we implicitly asked for the, to achieve before making an arrest
It urban areas, this has just evolved to a really crazy state where the police are almost constantly harassing the community without really any malicious intent (or at least it doesn’t have to exist)
So there’s inherent conflict between the community and the police
And then the training shifts to protect yourself (which is justifiable) and now the police have to be always defensive and sometimes very aggressive
It’s a time bomb
We are probably well overdue for some wholesale re-examinations of the way we do things that don’t lead to racial inequities and don’t put people (including the police) at risk
I honestly think it can be done effectively and can reduce crime too
Pp…you continue to antagonize. Must be your best quality. Bring it! And if you can leave your redneck politics aside, we might be able to converse.
“leave your redneck politics aside”
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Is this a racist comment or stereotyping?
God bless pick up to go Margarita’s!!!!!!!!!!
2 gallons aught to do for today!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone mentioned i was on a high horse ….
Aren’t we all trying to be the best? There’s no high horse. Fuck you if you’re not that. Walk away.
That was me.
And your comments required I answer that way! 😉
Yikes!!!
It’s OK!
Thank you for stepping up. What are you saying? Truth is a high horse? How so? I ‘m confused.
Why should truth be glorified?
When you asked me “When are you going to wake up”
Like being anything other than “Black” makes you to stupid to identify discrimination!
High Horse is a really high horse. 🙂
I was busy yesterday but I’m ready to bring it today. The looting and destroying is disrespectful to Floyd, Arbery and Breonna Taylor. Stealing is to benefit YOURSELF. Floyd wouldn’t have wanted his own community destroyed. It’s not anger. Tearing up black owned stores isn’t helping the black community. That’s such a bullshit thought exercise. Many of the people were outside actors that just wanted to tear up someone else’s community. You’re not helping be destroying jobs, shooting people, tearing up communities. That’s not beneficial. That helps no one but thugs
No excuse for rioting and looting. Heard about those “outside actors” on CNN this morning. Might be folks who don’t have to live in the neighborhood after they burn the buildings in it. Hope more of that story comes out.
Kong,
That is Cheyenne and it’s one of my favorite movies too.
That rocket launch was Awesome !!
Big day in space history. The government didn’t do that.
Yes it was! It’s about time and here’s to going back to the moon an beyond!
Totally man!!!
“leave your redneck politics aside”
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Is this a racist comment or stereotyping?
I believe that is a description of me? 😉
Nah…that was for me.
Funny thing is…I’d bet you dollars to donuts that I have already been to more places, seen and experienced mod things, and have a better understanding of the tribal and cultural relationships around the world than SJW’s like him will ever have, even if they lived three lifetimes.
Leave it alone guys…
I didn’t think it was a secret that I was the local “redneck”? 😉
It‘a not…all I hear from you is about cooking pork!
😛
I’m riding my bike around my neighborhood and was inspired to post some more while I sit and gawk at scantily dressed ladies wearing masks
Nice! I’m sitting in my backyard, in and out of the pool, drinking beer from my kegerator. Glorious weather.
Piggy – Community policing is cops being part of the community they patrol. Back in the day cops knew everyone on their beat and if a kid fucked up it usually resulted in a slap to the back of the head. In serious cases, they took you home to your parents. But the parents and the community worked together with the cops and respected each other. Today what we have is more aligned with the Soviet practice of Oblast. You conquer two territories then let them police the other.
Well yeah – that’s probably also happening in schools
But in a populated area like nyc, it’s hard to have those relationships
ER and WY
In reference to your question about the virus/staying inside and the protests
I don’t get why anyone, especially here in nyc is going to any public gathering. I think it’s a bad idea right now. Especially a volatile situation like that where it will be really hard to avoid contact.
But that said indoor public gatherings are really the most problematic. Outdoor events that aren’t too crowded might be a really good thing to encourage.
Being outdoors is probably pretty good for people If they are being cautious about their interactions (and they of course have not been at the protests but that’s a different story)
There is actually a big push in nyc to being taking advantage of open spaces for restaurants. In my neighborhood people are getting more and more sophisticated with Togo cocktails. I’m hoping they duty closing streets to traffic and letting people interact bourbon street style in the street
Generally speaking, I don’t think anyone really knows what they are doing. No one. We are all guessing on how to handle. And for that matter I don’t get really upset when people guess wrong so long as it’s not reckless or shooting from the hip
But I think maybe we can start adjusting a little so that open air events with social distancing and other preventive measure can go on
That will probably be pretty good for the restaurant/bar industry and tourist industry in nyc. But here in nyc where space is a premium, it’s probably not wise to do things like we used to for a little while. Some restaurants used to really pack people in
Texas is Open with restrictions everywhere except the stadiums for sports and entertainment.
I say letter rip if we are gonna march, we aught to be able to go to work!
If we just opened up right now, a lot of elderly people and people who have medical issues already will end up dying
I doubt any of them were at the protest….maybe it’s just me, but I didn’t see a whole lot of walkers or larks at the protests
The Flying Pig says:
May 30, 2020 at 5:04 pm
It‘a not…all I hear from you is about cooking pork!
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Your probably the only one in the country that was happy about my chicken coming out better than the ribs!
Keep at it…the 🐓 have it coming and sounds like you are developing quite the skill beyond posting cheerleaders…lol
Was just on an outside line waiting to get into a liquor store and a guy who walked right by me on his way out either robbed or stole something and the cops got there quickly, the employees pointed him out and got him across the street at a strip mall.
Funny thing is he didn’t have a mask which is normal these days. LOL
The only guy not wearing a mask is the criminal
It’s bizarro world
Yep! LOL
LOL
It’s the on camera days. And no one ever said thieves are smart. Only so many Thomas Crowns out there.
He also had tattoos that would be easy to identify him as he was only wearing a t-shirt and basketball shorts. You would have never thought anything was up but I did look at him like how did you get in and come out without a mask because they require one. Strange days indeed, most peculiar, mama! LOL
I like this saying
That’s a good reply.
Piggy my mother in-law has been on lockdown for 2 months now in the nursing home.
nobody in or out unless you work there! Everybody is tested 2 times a week!
I don’t think you are getting the virus in there!
Besides if 100,000 people are going to march and protest, what good does it do me to stay at home?
There’s a ton of elderly people who aren’t in nursing homes and live among us. Most of them are actually in the general population
Piggy – Community policing is a thing of the city. Cops lived in the neighborhoods they policed… part of the community. One of the reasons that crime went down in NY. In the 90’s was a program called Broken Windows, which was a community policing program.
I see, the police are actually from the town they police
Exactly. Everyone has skin in the game.
That’s the way it once was both good and bad depending on where you lived.
It’s about building relationships.
That is not what community policing is. I have represented police departments that were involved in community policing initiatives. It had nothing to do where the police officers live. It had to do with a more visible police presence in inner cities. It had to do with creating sub stations in high crime neighborhoods. It had to do with getting away from physically aggressive policies and tactics.
Going back up I agree with Phelon that is more about cops on a beat and I mean a walking beat
Ken – You are correct. The modern definition of community policing is not about where the cops live. I did not explain it well. Damn thumb typing. It is the concept of the police being part of the community, walking the beat, knowing the people on there beat. It is about engaging the community in a positive and cooperative manner.
Some people say everyone is a little racist. I’m sure some people aren’t, but let’s look at the people that are opposite of a racist. If a racist is:
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.
If being a racist is bad what does that say for the people that are opposite? In the definition above replace different race with same race, and superior with inferior.
Why is it Ok for people to believe this?
You can believe anything you want, but why are you discussing this with the people you’re trying to call inferior and expect them to take that crap?
Phish, you hit the nail on the head. “It’s about building relationships.” It’s as simple as that, it really is. That’s how you build trust.
See you guys…Tim read Piggy’s earlier post. Phish is right.
I have a joke that I won’t tell out of respect for fishes. 😎👍
This is why dogs get neutered.
Lol
Tuche
After reading all of the posts it has cemented my opinion that the best cops are library cops.
I voted for mall cops.
Mall cops are the red headed stepchild of the cop profession. Glorified teenage chaperones and mall walker crossing guards.
I guess it’s ok to loot in SoCal so I’m going to get me some cases of milkbones and chew toys. Later people’s. 🐕
Piggy
My comment was directed at the media and their outrage over the last week or so of people being outside. The media plays a huge role in this….
It’s going to be interesting to see what happens with the investigations of the rioters. MN is already pretty pissed that it is shaping up to be planned. We’ll see…
Fucking Savages 🖕
I think it’s funny that they call looters and arsonist protesters. WTF ? Maybe it’s just me and I should look in the mirror. 🤓
Watch this guys story
Now watch what actually happened
That guy is mental. Wtf
Doesn’t he know every single person carries a video recorder now. Lmao. Wow
You think the ‘brandishing my weapon’ part might be an important part of the story or something? lol
I’m curious about this man’s thought process. “Hey honey, you seen my bow?! I need to grab my bow and my ONE arrow. I’m goinna kick some ass and stop this damn protest!”
The hypocrisy of the left. You’ve got a looney out there with a bow and arrow and one woman that says don’t you dare, then says this is his car and the mob attacks him. Again two wrongs don’t make a right, yet the left thinks it’s Ok to pummel this obviously deranged man.
Fucking Nimrods burning down their own community’s and stealing from the businesses that support their communities. # We are all Americans.
Amen
Adog 🐕🥃🥃
Good one!
Well it was better than I thought it would be this morning!
No stories of mass killings of rioters!
Yet????
So it seems like some people think it’s OK to let “protestors” do whatever they have to do even if it’s violent in order to get their point across and we just have to accept that. I feel like that is absolutely not the case, but I’m white so how should I know.
When I see a sports team win and then I see people run amuck in their own cities and people are turning cars over and lighting them on fire because they’re happy they won, and many of those people who did that are white, I can say those people are definitely assholes, because their team fucking WON and they’re violently celebrating, but I can only say the white people are because how can I possibly understand what a black fan of a winning team feels like.
All white people are not the same. We have different subsets. On here we have many subsets. Within the white people here we come from different locations, we have white city Jews like myself, we have white southwest rednecks like Wyoming, we have white rednecks from Florida like Sonny and ORob, we have white military rednecks like Phelon, we have white military dogs like Doggy, we have ultra liberal whites like Jahn, we have white southeast rednecks like D, we have relatively neutral but more liberal white non redneck Naples from Florida, we have relatively neutral but more libertarian white and part suburbian Jew in Tim, we have white Canadian transplants into redneck territory and former military OD, we have huge northern mid west whites who drink diet dew and Jack and huge barrel like mugs like Bookman and another one who played football like Randy, and yet another who rides elephants. We have ultra liberal northeast whites who are only white when they’re happy and then turn green when they’re angry like Ken. We have a white ape Kong that lives in Cali which is very hard to classify in this. We have pinks that are winged and almost white that dwell in the city of the northeast. We have white Canadians in the frost of Manitoba.
I didn’t include everyone here, don’t be offended. I’m just trying to make a point that we’re all really pretty damn different while being white. Although because I’m white, I can only speculate that there are many different types of blacks as well. I will say this, probably ALL black people are angry about the George Floyd murder. I will say that the larger majority of white people are angry about the George Floyd murder. I’m going to say that most black people did not wake up and say it’s time to loot and wreak havoc in the city I live to get the point across that it’s not OK to for police to kill black people because there is no better way to get that point across other than firebombing stores and emptying it’s contents to share among the black community. This is the only thing white police understand so this is what we must do. There is no other intelligent alternative to this, so this is what I’m going to do.
Krishna – This is not out of any disrespect for you at all, I do like and respect you very much. We just don’t agree on this particular topic (I suppose many others too) but that doesn’t mean we can’t all have our own feelings and thoughts, and yeah, I don’t think they should be discounted because in this case we’re white and this heinous murder was committed against a black man. We’re all HUMAN, and that we are the same.
MRS OD ordered us some “I CAN’T BREATHE!” T-shirts.
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I PLAN to add “U.S. ARMY VETERAN” right under
“I CAN’T BREATHE!”
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Gotta hand it to President Trump. Announcing he WON’T
ALLOW painting of his predecessor to be placed in the
“WHITE” House is a sure way to calm things down.
BUT….it’s not racism. It’s just him. (I would add an eye roll here), if I could.
The opposite of racism = Agape. You don’t change two words in the definition of racism and make it “opposite.”
I have zero guilt about being white; and “it” is racism. Can anyone “white” (including myself) truly understand what racial discrimination is like? Trying to understand another’s plight or experience and raise awareness about “it” seems to be a fruitless effort. Obviously, trying to take the high road and point out seemingly racist comments on this blog gets twisted as being on a high horse.
We are all HUMAN, so why aren’t we all treated the same. We are NOT. Being white does not make anyone bad or a racist…..maybe clueless about others’ (non-white) experiences. I surely hope not.
Violence begets violence. I don’t support ANY of the looting or destruction of the businesses and communities. And to my point, is really not the point of what I was trying to convey and takes away from the greater issue. Yet, it seems to be the focus of concern versus the “hate” crime committed against Floyd in broad daylight by a servant of the people.
Hitler did exist. Slavery in this country did exist. Religious persecution did and does exist. Racism exists in all forms and all colors all over the world. And on and on.
Talking about it and conversing about it is the only way I know to raise awareness. Perhaps, I get too invested or outraged or angered. I will try to do better.
You do stand on your high horse, thinking you’re better than those you believe make racial comments. Please enlighten me and tell me one racists comment you heard from someone on this board.
STEVE: Like you, I have yet to view a blatantly pro-white racist view on this board (although I’m only a part time viewer). That said, down here in Florida, blatantly pro-white racist comments are made quite frequently. A co-worker, who describes himself as “pro-KKK,” was overheard telling his wife that “one of the good things about the virus is the fact that huge numbers of blacks and immigrants are dead.” Now his EXACT words were NOT “blacks and immigrants,” but you get the message. Sadly, this form of bigotry is still pandemic in many parts of this state. And some police departments reflect this point of view in their hiring procedures (although they’ll deny it if questioned by “The Feds”).
I do take a stand. Taking a stand on social injustices is not “high horse” thinking, in my opinion.
I just gave you one example in my comment above. Trying to understand the definition of racism and the opposite of racism by changing two words comes across to me as a justification for racist behavior and a deflection. I interpret that to mean you really don’t know what is racism and what is not. You seem to minimize the fact that racism exists in this country. I truly hope I am wrong and I misspoke.
How about you providing ONE comment I’ve made where I said, “I’m better than anyone.” In fact, I think (I could be wrong) that I have acknowledged multiple times, I have stepped over the line.
Are you black, steveccnv? Your comments suggest you are white. I could be wrong. You also said you have had the “talk” with your son so I’m confused by that, too. If you are not black, then, I don’t know what “talk” you had with your son or your dad had with you.
I’m pretty sure Mike E. did not fear for his life when the cops pulled him over for “speeding.” Not understanding or ignoring that fear by blacks speaks exactly to my point. This is not “high horse” thinking. We are all HUMAN, yet we are treated differently based on race, color, and creed.
Well if one thing comes out of this, the answer to why you need an AR15 has been answered!
Ha saw this earlier and laughed.
2020
I need to call my mother, and see if slapping me into next year is still on the table!
LOL
I have never experienced racism against me but I have certainly been the victim of discrimination because I’m Jewish. I think that’s pretty much the equal of racism. It’s a hate or prejudice simply because I’m a certain religion not like the discriminator. So while I’ve never experienced hate due to the color of my skin and I have experienced hate because of the religion I was born into.
I think the community policing is definitely a better option than what we currently have but media coverage and the fact that every person has a fucking video camera and camera on their person at all times makes it harder to work. So many things locally used to get swept under the rug. I remember driving home from Long Island to Brooklyn drunk as can be and getting pulled over for speeding. The cops knew I was drunk, no breathalyzer test, they just knew it. He gave me a ticket, told me to slow down and said “Try to slow down and drive careful and maybe you can get you and your buddies here home safe”. If he had a body cam or a dash cam, he can’t do that. That’s not the best example of community policing but it is the gist. The police weren’t always looking to ruin your life, just keep a semblance of peace. I think it would be pretty difficult in today’s world to accomplish those things.
Should we try to stay away from politics today?
I can use a little escapism
Building my rocket now
Piggy
Golfed this morning.
Got about 2 hrs of work to do at restaurant.
Then going on about 200 mile ride all by my lonesome.
I’m there with you my man
I’m about to ride my bike around nyc – I’m probably going to try to do 50 miles
200 miles! Wtf – screw you! I don’t need to do that to my trotters
I was just on FB and there’s a young man that goes to the same resort I go to in upstate NY in the Catskill Mountains. Some comment he made got some flack from black friends he went to college with. The discussion is not unlike what was going on here but on this we have perspective from black people and how they see it, and in this regard, Krishna has a point that it actually is quite different from ours here. I think we all have a lot of work to do to fix the “WE” of white and black in this country, and it’s not going to be easy.
Change is never easy. And, change begins with seeing or making an attempt to “see” the other side. Kudos, Mike E.
No need for thanks man, but you are definitely right in some regard on this topic fo0r sure. Credit given where credit is due. Although we may hurt from what happened it’s not the same hurt black people are feeling and I feel like the sooner we understand that and recognize it for what it is the better.
Piggy – I’m fine with staying away although I guess I’ve already littered the board with stuff that I suppose could be political though I believe it’s more social than anything else.
We’ve all littered the board with it…lol
I’m just saying we may as well give it a shot today – if we don’t keep a little perspective, it’s easy to think the world is burning
Ok….sorry. I just left a comment for steveccnv. That will be my last on this topic today.
And Mike E., thank you for trying to understand. That’s a good first step….trying.
Mike E– you wrote (in a nice exposition btw) that “I’m going to say that most black people did not wake up and say it’s time to loot and wreak havoc in the city I live to get the point across.” Not all black folks did, but apparently a lot of white folks did.
Watched more hours of coverage of riots and looting last night than was good for my mental health. These riots are not like the Rodney King ones. Lots of white kids involved. Hitting the major shopping districts in LA, Miami, Philly, etc too. So this is a different bird than South Central LA going up in flames.
Something smells pretty bad about the whole “Riots”
A bunch of the governors have talked about outside “instigators.” Maybe social media heads ups lets scum pack and travel.
My mental health as certainly taken a beating. Perhaps pp can tell me more about the drug he said I “needed”. Seriously! I probably need to be medicated, not just drunk.
If you are serious about it man, I suggest Lexapro, I’m on it, it’s mostly for anxiety but does help with just calming the extreme ranges of emotions. Doesn’t zombie you and you still have your passions you are just able to manage them better.
I recommend marijuana
Fluoxetine = Prozac
Krishna — you are gonna need someone to write the script anyhow. Talk to a doc (psychiatrist not psychologist) and go from there. What they do.
They have been finding in the ones they arrest, a higher than expected percentage aren’t even from the area, and even some that aren’t even from that state. These are bussed in protestor and they generally are the ones at the epicenter of the violent outbreaks. Trust me, someone wants the US to burn, like we have seen getting worse and worse, pitting blacks against whites for their own gain.
But this ain’t even black v white as far as a lot of the protesters. One dude on the Miami News last night said he was amazed that 70% of the crowd burning cop cars outside police HQ was white of Latino. Could it be young v old?
This kinda stuff is always young vs old. Young are full of piss and vinegar and they are looking for a fight. Older people are wiser and more logical in their ideas of how to resolve things, mostly because of their piss and vinegar phase. Still they are being controlled, but the justification is black vs white and that’s the element they are playing up to make us go at each other.
These riots are political, the left wants to F up our economy at any cost even death of Americans. What they’re doing is despicable.
Think the left cares about any of us?
We are all treated differently at different time by different people. I have had a cop harass me, decided I was a drug dealer, not sure why, maybe it was the gold chain I used to wear (don’t now because of this incident), maybe it was a Florida tag I still had on my vehicle driving from West to east on I-10. I dunno but for some reason he pulled me over out of other options. He kept me there for over an hour, part of the time I was detained in his car, threatening to call in for K9 support to search my car, threatening to take me in because I was suspicious to him. Now this is not to relate it to having someone kneel on my neck for 8minutes and 32 seconds while I said I couldn’t breathe, but I also was 100% compliant with the officers requests.
Is there a problem, absolutely.do they react differently when dealing with a black person, absolutely. Is it because of race? Sorta. I think it’s out of fear to begin with, fear of not being prepared for a dangerous situation and over compensating, did they over compensate because he was black, yep.
I don’t think cops kill blacks for any reason other than they do when they kill other races, I just think they prejudge blacks as a threat more than they do whites, which isn’t racism its self preservation.
Still wrong is wrong and it was wrong, people should be held accountable abut if you think any of the rest of the wrong is justified, you are part of the problem. If you think the cop was justified you are part of the problem, we need to cast out these fringe participants and get to some real resolution.
Love not hate, peace not violence, construction not destruction and most if all, unification not division.
I haven’t heard one person say they think the Floyd killing was anything other than murder.
Silly Pig
So
I would ask yourself This?
If all this “civil unrest” is about the killing of a “Black” man.
Where is the outrage over Patrick Underwood??????
OMG Krishna! Changing 2 words makes what I said racist? Maybe it’s you that doesn’t know the definition, even though i posted it, you don’t seem to comprehend it.
Changing the 2 words has nothing to do with racism, it was done define what you are. It makes you a hypocrite to be against racism, then act like you’re superior to your race.
Your high horse has to do with you thinking you’re better than those that don’t fight for social injustice. Your fight is also one sided, you want all the blame to go on the other side, when both sides are to blame. Rarely do we see a fight for something when one side is 100% correct.
Everything you write comes across as a leftist talking point, nothing new, just the same ole crap, to promote the power of the left. The identity politics from the left is a scam to get anyone non straight white male behind them and you play right into their hands. Sheeple.
So it’s a “no” on skipping politics today?
Probably not?
Unless I was to shut the news and the Puter down!
We did shoot 2 guys into space! (Sorry no pigs) 😉
Might be a tough sell today. Closest I can remember to this time was the King riots. And people thought they would spread. Cancelled my classes in Bridgeport (not exactly a garden spot).
Well I’m riding my bike around nyc – and I’ve been through Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan
And I haven’t seen any protestors
I haven’t seen any riots
I haven’t seen police
Or tear gas or anything
It’s kind of a normal Sunday afternoon with a lot of masks
Maybe it’s a good idea to tune things out a little…just saying
As I said – Silly pig.
But the bad stuff happens at night. Time and a gain the story last night was had a peaceful protest and after was done the angry boys started to play.
Thanks for the medical information….I also think grief (PTSD) counseling might help. And, yes I’m serious! I am a very angry man right now. No excuses for my lack of diplomacy and respect.
Saw what my Dad went through after my Mom died. He had a connection like you did. Toughest thing he ever faced. Wish he’d been willing to seek some help. And if it doesn’t work…. then it just doesn’t work.
Thank you for understanding, but no excuses……..😭
Krishna – Just take it easy bud. No need to blow a fuse over this stuff, and I mean that sincerely. There are too many absolutes being thrown around here. One thing I’ve learned about absolutes it’s that when you’re trying to aim a bullet it’s like throwing a grenade, it always covers more than you want it to. Anyway, take a break, have a drink and listen to some good music, if you can, hang with some family or friends that can usually spruce up your mood. We all need those people in our lives, I hope you have someone that can do that for you. Cheers pal!
Piggy.
I ride a motorcycle. Lol
I was about to say – no wonder you ride elephants
She gets Sundays off
And then it hits a little closer to home — a message from my building.
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URGENT MESSAGE TO ALL RESIDENTS
We have been advised that there will be a protest this afternoon between 3 PM to 6 PM.
There will be a high police presence.
We suggest that all residents stay in their units. We are taking precautionary measures to ensure the security of the building. Gates will be locked down, and security will be monitoring all entrances.
Be smart and stay safe.
Well this aught to be interesting?
Federal law enforcement actions will be directed at apprehending and charging the violent radical agitators who have hijacked peaceful protest and are engaged in violations of federal law.
To identify criminal organizers and instigators, and to coordinate federal resources with our state and local partners, federal law enforcement is using our existing network of 56 regional FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF).
The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”
At the same time the DOJ is not launching a civil rights investigation into the Minneapolis police department
The DOJ was supposed to investigate the incident at the presidents request.
I’m assuming that any history will be part of it?
Your TDS flair up? 😉
“We have a white ape Kong that lives in Cali which is very hard to classify in this.”
LOL, thank you, Mike, I take some pride in that comment. I very much try to take a moderate view and strike a balanced tone which I would hope makes it hard to pin me down, and that is truth not just lip service (as so often it is).
You certainly won’t find me often spouting things like “the left this..liberals that” or “the right this…conservatives that” which betrays an obvious heavy political leaning and bias, (my comment which lead to your “rich, bellowing, conservative laugh” not withstanding). LMAO I hope you remember that reference because it still ranks high on slap-my-hand retorts I’ve received.
It is true, I despise Trump, his vile behavior, and his demagoguery, but I don’t make the mistake of believing he is synonymous with the GOP, the right, or conservatives as a whole. When I disparage Trump, I never lump all conservatives in with him.
For purposes of classification I would probably label myself a libertarian centrist. Give me less government regulation, give me a slightly conservative leaning Supreme Court, don’t infringe on rights, pro choice, pro death penalty, pro gay marriage, try to strike a balance with some welfare programs designed to help people get on their feet but no generational welfare – just to name a few positions.
Generally, I don’t take part in most of these heavily charged sociopolitical conversations because we don’t have the proper representation on this board to have a real conversation about all things. You make a good argument that not all ‘whites’ are the same ‘whites’, and that is completely valid, but it still does not equate to a diverse blog population IMO. It just means we are diversely white, lol.
That isn’t a bad thing. There is nothing wrong with being a mostly white community. I enjoy some of the level headed conversations on different aspects of American politics I’ve read on this board, sometimes I participate, and I often learn and adjust my perspective based on these conversations.
But IMO this board, in general, has a lopsided perspective on racism and the troubles surrounding it. And that is only natural. The truth is, you can’t have a real debate about racism and the black community without a strong black perspective and voice as part of the conversation. It’s as simple as that.
I stay away from these conversations because as Piggy put it “a group of middle aged white guys isn’t going to solve racism in America” (paraphrasing)
Anyway, I felt the need to give my own perspective and where I am in this conversation. 🙂
Cheers!
Cheers Kong! Agree on many points, especially a bunch of middle aged white men laying heavy judgements on racism in America. I wish we had some more black representation here. I know Markey H is black but he’s one guy and has aspirations of his own with his new podcast and his own blog as well. All we can do is build it, and maybe they will come. Probably not very likely because I really haven’t seen any new bloggers in a while except for Philip and KV (both white)
I always thought Randy was a black dude. I’m not sure where I got that impression.
You said that so much better than I could have ever said. Nice.
Well said, Kong. I’ve refrained from getting into this topic because I get enough of it on the news, FB and talking with friends. I’m kind of tired of the cycle we’re in. We keep repeating the same things over an over. “We” meaning everyone, not just people on this blog. And not just words, but actions. I feel like we’re back in 1992. I’m more sad about it than outraged. I think everyone has made good points and I feel no need to reiterate the same.
It’s interesting as Space X just showed us all our evolutionary innovation, we also see how our civil evolution is not evolving at the same rate. It’s like a giant sigh…….. 😦
Krishna – Reply up above to your 3:20PM post
What kind of white person am I Mike?
I couldn’t tell ya, I’ve never met you (at least as far as I know). Are you black?
Krishna – You could also watch this for a while. You’ll be chillin’ in no time!
https://www.twitch.tv/bobross
LOL!
Thank you, Mike E.
I think I’m an asshole and dick. I am truly fucked up. LOL!
Yeah, maybe you need to throw yourself a little slack. It’s been a little antagonistic here so when that atmosphere gets going, someone’s gonna get angry, seen it hundreds of times here and in our other iterations of this blog and its members.
Well at least you still think that!
Most folks I know have verified those descriptions for me! 😉
Lol! You crack me up! Country redneck and rolling stone.
WENT OUT WITH Mrs. OD to the store. Picked-up a college football preview issue and saw that FAU is rated third in their division of Conference USA. Predicted to go 8-4 this season, which I believe is a tad optimistic. However, FAU has C-USA’s top returning QB, Chris Robison, who was NAILS last season as the Owls rolled to a 12-2 season, including a blowout bowl game win over SMU!! He projects as a second or third round QB if he comes out after his Junior season.
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As usual, Marshall and Western Kentucky are expected to be in the mix (along with Southern Miss.,) for the conference championship.
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DID YOU KNOW Dept.: FAU finished the year ranked #27 in the coaches’ poll, two positions ahead of #29 USC. This year figures to be less successful, with former head coach Lane Kiffen now the head coach at Ole Miss.
Krishna, we all know you’re hurting. Just know that. Peace & Love
Geez Mike, can the hand get any bigger? LOL
^
very much agreed
I wish Bob Ross was still alive. I could watch him every day
Bob Ross was the best. When I’m feeling weighed down, sometimes I’ll put this Bob Ross tribute song on and it lifts my mood. I’m a goofy 100 ft softie and not ashamed of it, lol.
I love Bob Ross. I got a shirt of him and it’s my favorite. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bob-Ross-Good-Vibes-Only-Men-s-Graphic-T-shirt/134017788?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222146694171&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=74835574620868&wl4=pla-4578435168078769:aud-808058292&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=134017788_10000007863&wl14=bob%20ross%20shirt&veh=sem&msclkid=469169d49c1d1097e6683700c7d5c8ad
Tim – It’s bigger when I’m happy. lol
LOL
Tried to go to my first BLM protest a bit ago. No joy. Almost all gone from Huizenga (you guys know him) Park by the time I got there. An hour before scheduled to end, but maybe the folks figured a walk and statement somewhere else made sense. And did see the tail end heading off somewhere in the middle of a street. Would’ve like to have seen how many folks, but maybe protests are a flexible thing.
ACTIVE BIG TIME RIOTS in downtown Tampa centered on Fowler Avenue area where most businesses are owned by Latino-Americans or Southeast Asian American citizens. Vast majority of looters and rioters I saw WERE WHITE!! Mayor has ordered a curfew from 7 PM to 6 AM across all of Tampa. Initial attempts to blockade Interstate highways has failed. UNconfirmed, I repeat, UNconfirmed reports of skinhead White kids leading a portion of the rioting.
—–Looks like I WON’T be going to work tomorrow.
PS: Governor just sent out the National Guard to Tampa. But he only sent out 100 guardsmen!!!!!
We ended up having stuff in Lauderdale as well, but compared to some of the other stuff elsewhere not horrific. Never thought tear gas would be used a couple blocks from my place though.
Pp….I owe you an apology. You are amongst the smartest/street/world wise persons i know on this blog. No disrespect to anyone else as there are many of you. It sounds like a “high horse” comment. Mrs. Krishna would have helped me saying that….
No problems, Krishna. I can be a dick and it is my nature to find soft spots in people’s psyches and poke at them. I was a cater interrogator. But I don’t take things personal and I don’t hold on to things. We’re good.
Black Swan interrogator? I have heard of that not much more beyond. I’m sure I’m clueless.
So what do we do about that asteroid?
Asteroid? Are we about to be cratered? Lol.
Invite it over if it will get 2020 over sooner! 😉
I am working on Piggy’s prescription presently. And, a Topo. Lol.
Wyoming, your guy helped my guy get the win!!!!!!!!!
I’d say your welcome?
But that’s not the words that come to mind! 😉
Krishna, I want to apologize to you, I took some things out on you that I shouldn’t have.
Hope you’re doing better.
So what about the Dolphins? LOL
I like the direction they’re going in. Looking forward to it whenever it happens.
I’d be surprised, if TC didn’t start on time, and if there aren’t at least 25% of the seats occupied.