If our WR corps is a little on the high side salary cap wise at the moment, especially considering who’s on our roster, our RB room is on the cheap. At the moment, no Dolphins RB is at a $1M salary or higher. Myles Gaskin, Patrick Laird and Salvon Ahmed are the only RB’s under contract now and add up to a stingy $2.5M. I expect that to change when the draft rolls around. I think after watching all of our backs it’s easy to realize that really none of them are a true bellcow RB or what could be considered a #1. I liked what I saw out of Myles Gaskin and Salvon Ahmed, they both showed the ability to run the ball and catch the ball and do good things catching the ball out of the backfield (Myles Gaskin moreso than Ahmed) but neither guy proved capable of pushing the pile or creating after contact yards. I saw way too many times first contact and down. We need a RB that’s both more elusive and also more powerful that can break that first tackle which many times leads to big gains.
A RB that can catch the ball and then make things happen after the catch can be a QB’s best friend. I think Najee Harris fits that role best as he is probably the best receiving RB, and he has the size (6’2 230) to and skills to be an every down back. Travis Etienne is a very good RB, maybe the highest ranked pure running back. He broke more tackles than any other back in college and has a lot of long runs to his credit. Etienne is more of a traditional sized RB (5’10 205). Etienne had 43 runs of 20 yards or more, that’s the kind of explosiveness the Dolphins backfield could use. There are plenty of RB’s who would improve the quality of our backfield, but I think it’s time we really invested in getting a premier talent. Running backs have been devalued to a point in the NFL where they are rarely early to mid 1st RD picks, but I think there’s a good chance we could lose Najee Harris if we don’t take him at #18. Of course we could trade back either from #3 or from #18 and have a shot at him but I don’t think it’s likely he makes it to #36. The Chiefs took the first RB off the board last year at #32 (Clyde Edwards Helaire), and the guy I thought we would be the first back taken, D’Andre Swift was taken at #35. Another good choice for us would be Javonte Williams from NC. He’s a physical downhill runner with good size and speed 5’10 220.
Here’s what our RB’s did in 2020
Myles Gaskin – 142 carries – 584 yards – 3 TD’s / 41 receptions – 388 yards – 2 TD’s
Salvon Ahmed – 75 carries – 319 yards – 3 TD’s / 11 receptions – 61 yards – 0 TD’s
Patrick Laird – 13 carries – 72 yards – 0 TD’s / 10 receptions – 68 yards – 0 TD’s
We also had Matt Breida last season who gave us minimal production, despite most of us expecting him to be the change of pace and 3rd down back. We also got a little production from DeAndre Washington who is also not under contract in 2021. It’s clear we need to upgrade the talent in our backfield, so will 2021 be the year we go RB early? It’s difficult to say. I wouldn’t be surprised if they look for to upgrade the trenches in some fashion, either an OL, DL or even a playmaking LB or a CB. I’m going to hate to see Patrick Surtain II in another NFL uniform, but after drafting Noah Igbinoghene at #30 last year, I can’t imagine we would spend another first RD pick on a CB.
I don’t think there was DC that played our team that was overly concerned about our rushing attack. Nothing helps a QB more than a reliable, effective rushing attack. Proof of this is available from our own 2016 season with Ryan Tannehill and then any season while playing for the Tennessee Titans. Tannehill went from a run of the mill QB to a top 10 QB. I think we should do everything we can to help Tua become a better QB, so draft the best WR and RB in this draft and that’s a good start to getting him in that direction.
GO DOLPHINS 2021!!!
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Capt Stubbs – I’m thinking of buying a Sea Hunt 25 Game Fish for offshore in the Keys. Twin 150 Yamahas. Any downside to the boat?
This kind of wraps up the fan think in a nutshell:
“ Tagovailoa went from being the top college prospect to a generational talent to a first-overall pick to a top five despite his injury, to now being an afterthought because of Watson. Somehow in all of this, the Dolphins who loved what they saw in Tua, no longer find him all that appealing. After nine games mind you.”
I see the season past as Tua’s pre-season and expect next year to show who he is. I don’t believe they are or will be interested in Watson unless they are offered a screaming deal, better than the Tunsil deal. Miami is in the driver’s seat because they are not desperate. In a bidding war, they would be out bid.
I agree but disagree that we are in the driver seat. Reason being is the last statement.
That’s why they are in the driver’s seat…it’s their price or nothing.take it or leave it.
M13, I like that draft and can see us moving around quite a bit like that grabbing who they want. Though, I would prefer WR Dyami Brown at #81.
Wyatt Davis is also a good choice. There are some seriously good guards in this draft. Davis is the biggest stud of all the IOL. I have been focusing on OC’s who can also play OG. I seem to have tunnel vision on Landon Dickerson right now since he has experience at LT, OG and most recently OC.
Mike E,
It’s just another example of people not thinking for themselves. Sure, you can think this but it’s primarily a narrative sold by clickbait media. The same media who never take responsibility when wrong, which is more frequent than not since they live in perpetual ‘hot take!’ mode.
People like Son, Kong and others have put great reasons why they would take Watson, but none of them involve Tua sucking cause no one knows. Tua is half a season in with no real offseason. It’s utterly ridiculous and the thinking of simpletons tbh. The only real discussions are; which talent will have the highest ceiling, would Tua get to Watson’s level and how long would it take, is Watson poison, how much is Watson worth, what talent works best with our guy, etc, etc. Tua’s abilities (at the NFL level) are still in progress. He’s had little chance for success.
Tua already peaked at Alabama, what we saw last year is as good as it gets.
Trade back to 15 range works for me too and take 2 of these 3 at 15 and 18, Pitts, Waddle, Harris.
Taking Smith at 3 would be the worst thing we can do, besides the player we won’t be taking advantage of another Houston sucker.
Just say trade back, its why getting 3 was so important.
Mike, I probably just need to realize when you’re knocking people over this Tua/Watson thing that it is more directed to those you mentioned that want to put Tua down and not personally directed at me, lol.
I should give you credit for understanding a stance more nuanced than ‘Tua sucks, get next thing’. My view isn’t an indictment of Tua, rather I see it as a singular opportunity that suddenly appeared. When we selected Tua, we didn’t know Watson would be available because teams just don’t let QBs of his caliber go. So circumstances change and it doesn’t mean I think badly of Tua.
I guess I just kind of lumped myself in with Tua detractors and felt a need to address the vitriol I erroneously felt directed my way. It was simply binary thinking on my part.
So I vow to have a better understanding and not take it personally. I will let go of the self-hate and start a new day with the sunshine at my back and a spring in my step.
The halcyon days are upon us Dolphins fans, and we should all rejoice, lol.
Cheers 🙂
Kong,
Why do you hate Tua so much……lol?
LOL
I appreciate what you said in your earlier post. It’s good to know nuanced views still exists. 🍻
How many teams have ever won the SB with a Watson type salary?
Watson’s stats are propped up, because they were too often behind. Reminds me of the Jax QB a few years ago, then the next season he sucked. Watson is good, but he’s not elite and has maybe 5 good years left.
Kong,
Did you get one of those “Word of the day” calendars for Christmas? Nuanced? Vitriol? Binary? Halcyon? WTF?
It’s Scrabble day, Randy. I was looking to get a triple word score on xerosis, but I couldn’t work it into my post, LOL
We hired an OC
I think our next OC is already on the team. Otherwise makes no sense to be hiring all of these lower O positions.
That OC has a realationship with Tua
bailbondmike says:
January 23, 2021 at 10:33 am
M13, I like that draft and can see us moving around quite a bit like that grabbing who they want. Though, I would prefer WR Dyami Brown at #81.
Wyatt Davis is also a good choice. There are some seriously good guards in this draft. Davis is the biggest stud of all the IOL. I have been focusing on OC’s who can also play OG. I seem to have tunnel vision on Landon Dickerson right now since he has experience at LT, OG and most recently OC.
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Yes, Landon Dickerson would be a great asset. Positional versatility cannot be overstated, plus he’s familiar with Tua. I’d be very happy with him coming to Miami.
Aka – we are not interested in Watson
Yeah, means forget Watson.
It also hints we aren’t going to be baiting other teams into thinking we’re going to take a QB at 3.
Although I think there’s a good chance Atlanta goes QB, so to move in front of them makes sense.
In his first season as Central Michigan’s offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach, Charlie Frye led a high-powered unit that spearheaded the biggest turnaround among Football Bowl Subdivision teams.
steveccnv says:
January 23, 2021 at 1:07 pm
If we go WR at 3 he’s my choice, but I’d rather trade back a little and still take him. The Oregon OT is the only player I see worth taking at 3.
Harris or Waddle (if no WR at 3) at 18. Waddle over Smith all day every day.
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Chase is outstanding, that’s for sure.
I’ve been wondering for some time if NFL teams will shy away from college players who opted out of the ’20 season… then think about the pros on our own team, such as Albert Wilson and Allen Hurns who opted out. I mean, these guys have lost a whole year to develop on the field… but they also should be fresher than ever before.
It cuts both ways really, so I think it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. But to reiterate your point, yes, Chase is outstanding.
Frye’s 2019 offense produced 424 points, the fourth-highest total in program history, ranked second in the MAC in passing yardage, and had two backs rush for more than 1,000 yards for the first time in program history.
WOHOO OD — Covid free is the way to be. Sorry for what you went through but so happy it was not worse.
Wife and I are moved into our new apartment we’re staying in while they redo our place. It’s fine but best thing about it is the TV service. On Hotwire you can hit what was on at least the major channels up to 48 hours before. They just record them all back at HQ I guess. Beats the heck out of our AT&T, which is all our condo building provides.
Why do I know the name Charlie Frye? Wasn’t he a QB in the NFL? Lions? Raiders? Or am I confusing him with Charlie Batch
Played for the Browns, Seahawks and yep Raiders. Not much of a playing career to talk about though. Is crushing it in coaching though. Moved from high school to a NFL OC in just two seasons.
According to Wiki, Frye had to retire the NFL early due to a wrist injury during ‘training camp’. All I know is his forearms are huge for some reason. Take a look at his latest photo.
https://d2e111jq13me73.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/styles/share_link_image_large/public/screenshots/csm-movie/popeye-ss1.jpg?itok=qbw7iTAI
Sorry, don’t care…lol
And, to see if i have 2nd or 3rd priority of old fucks, i will 63 next month.
Shoot your not that old.
So why doesn’t anyone want to hire Bienemy? He’s had multiple interviews the last two years and runs one of the hottest offenses around. But no one seems to want him. What is it all about do you think?
Lol, you know what i think. Ross is forward thinking, sorry OD.
I don’t think that’s it at all. Miami interviewed him last year before they hired Flores. Has to be something that shows in interviews.
Your example is flawed, you can only pick one HC. They picked Flores.
Kong – I wasn’t representing anyone here at all regarding hating Tua, this was strictly from twitter. The hate there far exceeds the hate here. I think the only 2 real detractors of Tua here are Rob and Steve. I think most of us here are at least willing to give him a chance and others still think he might have a high ceiling.
Yep, give the guy a chance. It’s fucking ridiculous and stupid, as it’s way to early to judge. It’s called a wild ass guess at this point.
He wasn’t my first choice, but he’s done nothing to show he was a mistake pick at this point, imo.
Krishna – Bieniemy has interviewed with the Bucs, Jets, Dolphins and Bengals in 2019; the Browns, Giants and Panthers in 2020, and so far the Falcons, Lions, Jets, Chargers and Jaguars in 2021. Only the Giants and Jags have not hired a minority HC in the past. Not everything is about skin color.
It shouldn’t be abiut skin color, agreed. 31 white billionaires might disagree. Why Jags didn’t take him vs quitter Urban, i feel sick, Myer, is beyond me. Urban is not the Jags future.
Blaming it on race is intellectually lazy. The Jags hired Myers because he is enormously popular in northeast Florida from his time at UF. He will energize the fan base and put asses in seats for a couple of years regardless of record. He is also one of the most successful college coaches ever. The NFL is more like college ball than ever. Kingsbury and Rhule have had success. No one should be surprised that the Jags hired Myers or wonder why.
Fair enough. But Meyer is a quitter. I loved him when he was at UF as i am alumni.
But you are wrong about being inellectually lazy. Perhaps the Jag example was bad.
You’re laziness comes from never entertaining race as a cause. You fail to see anything racial from your high place. White grievance? Lmao.
Race can certainly be a cause of many things. Assuming it is the cause before actually examining relevant factors is both intellectually bereft and righteous, two things that seem to go hand in hand. When your first thought is that something is about race, you are racist.
I can’t help that you are both ashamed and afraid of who you are.
You ctack me up with your intellectual bullshit. Sometimes racial injustice is so obvious it blinds you. Look over there syndrome is quite apparent.
Being an obvious consideration in the face of facts is somehow blinding? Ignoring it as a possibility is putting your head in the sand and feeling superior. Carry on.
pheloniusphish says:
January 23, 2021 at 6:12 pm
So why doesn’t anyone want to hire Bienemy?…
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Great question. And of all the OCs who have been hired as HCs thus far, NONE of them have called the plays, but for Bienemy.
NO, I don’t believe it to be a racial matter, either. Either Andy Reid is pouring salt in Bienemy’s game to keep him (doubt it), or he’s just a very bad interview. It’s probably the latter (people continue to pass him by over other black coaches), but try telling that to SJWs. JMO, as always.
Maybe he’s a bad interview. Why is that the overriding factor? I would think experience and results should be at the top of the list of qualifications, not doing interviews. Fucking Belichick is awful at interviews…lol.
Whatever the case may be, I guarantee you that it’s not racial. I’d be ALL OVER IT should that be the case, man.
That’s a joke, right?
How many black HCs in NFL? Is Flores the only one? How many coordinators are black? How many players are black? Only one black (muslim) owner.
I just say what I see. Lots of colors….lol.
Oh, and color blindness….lol.
Let’s be real.
It should NEVER be about color, but more often, it is than isn’t.
Pp, you asked the question, and i answered it. I sure hope I’m wrong
Krisna,
If the NFL player base is 69% black, which is obviously very racist, why does the rest of the NFL have to meet that racist standard? The minority hiring is close to the racial sampling of the country outside of Latinos being vastly underrepresented. Bieniemy must be a terrible interviewer because about half the NFL has interviewed him and several have hired a HC or coordinator who is black. There are a decent sampling of GMs and HCs that are black in the NFL now. As a team, you want the BEST HC, not just the dude that Mahomes makes look good.
Heaven forbid anyone interject any intellect into the conversation. Way easier to just dumb it down to your level.
Where can we find intellect? It’s a conundrum.
A possible trade partner
Draft picks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys are delusional. The NFL is not racist because it has 69% black players/slaves owned by white people? Help me understand…lmfao. open your fucking eyes.
I love football and if it’s a predominantly black sport i love that too. Owned and coached by all white people? Ok…i see nothing here….lmao.
By the way,, in my experience, sports has always been the leader in paving the way for social and racial justice. Facts!
Krishna says:
January 23, 2021 at 7:19 pm
That’s a joke, right?
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You truly don’t know who I am, clearly, but that’s alright. MANY assume they know who I am, based on my political ideology. JMO, but that’s racist, in and of itself. You’ve got to knock it off with the racist labeling and assumptions that you’ve been programmed to do, as a liberal. Success doesn’t mean ‘sellout’, either…
Being critical is NOT being racist. I have read many of your posts and can only make assumptions based on what I’ve read. I can only imagine how people are in “real” life.
Then thank God you’re not talking to a Black Panther in me, my friend. Like you, I’m ALL about justice for all. Methinks you sometimes go over the top… and I realize that I can also do the same.
I’m about PEACE for all, LOVE for all, and JUSTICE for all. I think we can agree on this, no?
If Stafford becomes a free agent, I bet he ends up in New England.
Never mind, I read part ways and stopped there. Lions will go for the best deal they can get. Pats don’t have the draft capital.
The Patsies* could offer a bevy of picks (including futures), ya know? Don’t discount it.
I bet Lions target QB Trey Lance.
I hope they trade up with us to do “Whoever”!!!!!
Unless they trade Stafford to Jets then they will go with Zach Wilson or Fields.
Not looking at teams draft capital, I could see Stafford going to:
Jets
Panthers
Broncos
49’ers
Pats
Colts
Washington
Bears
Saints
I really wouldn’t count out the Patsies*… just sayin’
In Hockey news : Jets trade Laine and Roslovic to Columbus for Pierre Luc Dubois and a3rd rd pick.. I really hope Dubois is good otherwise I feel we just got fleeced for the first time in memory
There is going to be a lot of turnover at HC and QB in 2021. Should be interesting.
Krishna,
The NFL has about 2000 players and that means about 1400 black players. There are 32 owners, 32 HC, and no one seems to talk about the large number of lower level black coaches. So…just based off facts and stats, blacks primarily benefit in the NFL. It’s just the FACTS.
Why should a multi billion dollar industry primarily benefit black people which are 13% of the population? How is that not racist?
That’s not racist, black players are apparently the better athletes and football players. That’s how a free market works, the best product wins.
We all know why the owners are predominantly white, many of them come from “old” money. It’s very expensive to own an NFL franchise. You have to be a multi-billionaire. Also some of the owners don’t sell, it’s been part of a family for about a century. And when they do sell, it’s to extremely wealthy people. We all know black folks are behind the 8 ball in that arena. Many of them couldn’t even vote until 1965. We all know the ugly history of racism in this country. That will change in time but unfortunately many of us won’t be alive by the time we see black NFL owners.
That’s not a free market. When a guy is racist if he doesn’t hire black, that’s not free market. If there is constant pressure to meet expected results or there will be consequences, that’s not free market. If you get draft prizes for one result and penalties for other results, that’s not free market. That’s the opposite in reality. With Affirmative Action, there can be no evidence of an actual free market. Anything that uses exterior forces to promote a specific result, is not free market.
Is there some kind of evidence that black people are genetically superior to white people? Asians? Latinos? Is Luka Doncic just an aberration? Matthew Boling? That one in a million white folk who somehow got ‘the Genes’? How does that even relate to ownership, coaching, managing, etc? How does being the superior athlete relate to those fields?
Can you tell me why Indians, and other Asians have found so much success in America when most of them weren’t here in 1965? Had to move here without a support system already in place? Did we reverse racism them to the top? That’s kinda weird of us racist white people to do.
^^^
100% agreed with New Age
Thanks MF!!
New Age, I read your comments like this. “So…just based off facts and stats, blacks primarily benefit in the NFL.”
I was talking about the bigger issue of owners and GMs, not coaches or head coaches. I’m not sure how we got off course here. What I said is not my opinion, it’s NFL history and American history. Not sure how anyone can debate that? That’s what happened and why it is the way it is today.
As far as talent you think GMs and HCs have some black and white grid, we must be 60-40 at the least. No!!!! The best players make the roster. That’s the free market. There is no racial bias with players, teams select the players they think can help them win.
I really don’t know what we’re disagreeing about?
Krishna, saying black players in sports making millions of dollars is slavery is the worst tactic of ‘the left’ there is. It’s like how Trump is compared to Hitler and now I see people on ‘the right’ saying Biden is like Hitler. It’s as if nobody knows what slavery was or who Hitler was. What is the infatuation with Hitler? The USA is nowhere near Nazism or Socialism. It’s a psychotic agenda that hardcore political types are going through, on both sides.
Tim,
We’re not disagreeing really. I agree with past history and the free market on players. The push today is that HCs and GMs must meet some kind of racial threshold that is not free market based though and that’s my argument. I find it ridiculous that the NFL, which employs blacks about 5x the expected rate, based off population, is a racist organization because they don’t employ even more blacks.
Honestly, the racism push of the past decade really burns me up. 40 years ago my parents taught me to look inside a person and not at their melanin levels. I didn’t know anyone who promoted different back then either. Now, everything is racism but we’ve done better as a society? I don’t think so. We’ve regressed a lot the past 40 years. There was an article a few years ago that showed a graph that had articles about racism spike right after Occupy Wall Street. Our corporate overlords love when we are divided over easy things like someone looking different. It makes them lots of money and keeps us looking in the wrong places.
Wow… we really got of course because I agree. You weirded me out, man. LOL
Lol, Krishna threw out too much SJW for my day and I went overboard.
Unpopular opinion:
Bienemy not finding a head coaching job has nothing to do with the fact he is black. Give me a break. Even Fins passed on him and hired another black guy!
He’s interviewed with 38% of the entire NFL the past three years. No one else is close to that mark. It’s weird but at this point, you start to question what HES doing wrong, not the entire NFL. The focus is backwards and it’s specifically because he’s a black man. Racist agenda hiding in plain sight.
Jesus…tequila. Now I remember why I stopped drinking tequila. I got so blasted my wife had to take care of me. That hasn’t happened in decades, lol.
MF13,
Wow I had no idea that Bieniemy called the plays for the Chiefs. I would have bet money it was Reid. When I was catching up on the blog and read Phel’s question, my initial thought was “it’s probably because Reid is the ‘senior’ OC, calls the plays, and is likely the main offensive architect for the Chiefs”. Thanks for kicking that out info out there.
It’s pretty weird Bieniemy hasn’t gotten a shot yet. Even if you accept racism as a possibility, there are still 3 teams that chose other minority candidates over him (Flores, Rivera, and Saleh). So it makes me wonder what the heck is going on in those interviews.
*On a side note, when I was looking up the minority hires, I noticed, since the 2018 offseason 22 teams have replaced their HC. That is pretty crazy and makes me appreciate Flores that much more. Hopefully he’s our guy for the next 20+ years*
Belicheat and Reid are the longest tenured HCs, followed by Payton, Tomlin, and Harbaugh in that order.
“Thanks for kicking that out info out there.”
lol, that goofy sentence meant ‘thanks for providing that info.’
and ‘2018 offseason’ I meant the year, not the season,
I’m clearly not fit to post yet lol
Cav should always post drunk on Tequila.
New Age, the NFL doesnt intentionally hire black players to be racist, SMH
teams hire players that will help them win, period
if football players from Colombia were winning super bowls, then that is what the league would be
As I said before, I’m talking about GM, HCs, etc. I’m not seeing discussions on their hiring choices because they want to win. Sounds like….hypocrisy.
and to the fearmongering idiots that told me for 2 years that Biden would tank the markets?,
screw off, maybe they arent spending 120 hours a week in the markets like i am.
Bidens first 2 days in office? 2 all time high records, gaslighting fearmongers suck
Now there’s using a BS statistic to further your lies.
The Democrats did purposely through subterfuge tank the economy in an attempt to take Trump down. Just watch as very soon things start to magically open up, like restaurants, bars etc. w/o the benefit of scientifically being safe enough to do so. You’ve read it here, now watch it happen. Gotta kickstart that economy now that the Democrats are in power. Just watch . . . Truth is, I’ll be happy when it happens and won’t utter a complaint, but it’s a fucking joke if it really does happen.
That’s fucking crazy on so many levels
Which part exactly? There were definite efforts by Democratic Governors to keep things closed. If all of a sudden in a month or so things start opening up, will it be because it’s all clear or more like we need to get the economy going?
I already heard the same logic from conservatives that right after the election (in November) things would open up suddenly and that didn’t happen – I’m not going to accept that somehow they were right bc it’s it opens up in March or April
You already missed the window on that logic
It was just flat out wrong
Closures of places where people gather is an international model. We have seen it in Europe, Australia and Asia irrespective of political affiliation.
It’s not unique to democratic run states
What is unique is that so many Americans fought against it
Phel,
My wife is laughing her ass off trying to tell me about some of my behavior last night…I keep telling her to save it because it isn’t any of my business what I do when I’m that drunk. LOL
Cav, I got drunk about a month after Hurricane Sally and decided to fix my privacy fence in the dark. Two days later, I had to undo everything I did. lol
LOL
Looks like KC also has Edwards-Hellaire back.
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So long as he doesn’t go to the Patsies* or stej, all good.
The way I figure, either Matthew Stafford or Deshaun Watson will end up in the AFC East… and this is a pass-happy league today.
I feel good about our boundary CBs [Xavien, Byron, and Iggy (who will eventually get there], but (and it’s been awhile) I’m feeling the need for a ballhawking Safety once again… we don’t have one on our current roster.
No, a ballhawking Safety is NOT a priority at this time (so as to draft one early), but it sure would be nice. I’ll try to find a diamond in the rough for the later rounds and/or as an UDFA.
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I can see this happening.
And I can see Belicheat* trading for Matthew Stafford.
Thus, it’s now on us to surround Tua with the best weapons we can get. See my mock draft from yesterday.
Sorry Bookman! But I never want to see Brady in the SB again!!!!!!
Home Super Bowl?
It doesn’t matter if the bucs build. 3 score lead – this is Aaron Rogers
They will come back
Piggy, sorry man, if Trump decided to open up in March he would be universally slammed and called irresponsible and reckless. If Biden does it he will be lauded by the media and even Fauci will probably endorse it. You can tell me different but it will be a fallacy.
Trump did try to open up in March….
March of 2020….
That’s why it was shit on by a lot fo critics – bc it was crazy to suggest last easter.
The criticism might actually have to do with the content instead of the politician who is advocating for it and what you are insisting are the leanings of the media.
I realize this is an excuse for trump on everything, that he would be treated differently – but the hypothetical you are proposing is just that a hypothetical. Trump just criticized states for closing down. He didn’t really propose a plan for them to follow. Most of the time when he talked about how to deal with covid it was a trainwreck, If he was talking about it publicly in 2021, I think there would be a serious breach of trust on these issues, so yeah people would probably criticize him, but it’s more likely based on a series of missteps
If we get vaccines out by March of 2021, it won’t be crazy to start opening up
I actually think it’s going to be more like May or June and by then the election will be far behind us. I don’t think that’s a political decision
It really should never be a political plan. These closures have been applied internationally and should be above politics. It’s only turned into a political discussion in this country bc of the poor leadership on the top that chose to point fingers at the opposition rather than take initiative
M – Newsflash – it’s been about building around Tua since we made the decision to draft him. Any other plans were just wet dreams of fans who always look for the next shiny toy and never appreciate what we already have.
I find it extremely annoying.
Me too. It’s so frustrating to me how impatient our fans are.
You don’t have to tell me that. 😉
Mike E, keeping all options open is the way of a wise GM and HC. What’s more, in the event that Tua got messed up last year (having come off a major injury), we’d have to go in another direction.
So NO… it’s not been about building around him since the decision to draft him.
But YES… we are NOW (so it seems) going to build around him.
Don’t make statements that may come back to bite you! 😉
Friendly reminder… only a Sith deals in absolutes! 😉
Drafting 3 OL in the 1st, 2nd and 4th was the start of building around Tua. We also thought we had more weapons at WR until Wilson and Hurns opted out. So that kind of hurt us a bit.
Tim Knight says:
January 24, 2021 at 3:49 pm
Drafting 3 OL in the 1st, 2nd and 4th was the start of building around Tua. We also thought we had more weapons at WR until Wilson and Hurns opted out. So that kind of hurt us a bit.
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I call that building around the QB position, not necessarily for Tua himself. Old Dolfan and I have spoken about this ad nauseam for many, many years.
THAT stated, yes, we’re FINALLY building the trenches on the O-Line!
What’s more, YES, it’s going to benefit Tua.
This is more of a ‘chicken vs. the egg’ convo… not about Tua himself.
Well when you draft a QB at #5 and then follow up with 3 OL who do you think that’s for?
Also you and OD were not the only ones focused on the OL for many years. We were all doing that because we all watched the games. I’m one example because remember when we were doing mock drafts and I would take OL in the 1st round which annoyed a lot of us? LOL
Fair enough. Yes, YOU, in particular, have ALWAYS been about the trenches, both sides of the ball. #RESPECT!
🙂
Tim Knight says:
January 24, 2021 at 4:01 pm
Well when you draft a QB at #5 and then follow up with 3 OL who do you think that’s for?…
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I dunno… the Offense as a whole? Without a decent O-Line, you can’t run and can’t pass. We learned that lesson 15 years ago with Pro-Bowlers at every position but for the O-Line. That was the year that dumbass Peter King predicted us to the Super Bowl.
#LessonsLearned
THAT’S why I’m saying, it wasn’t for TUA himself. This is football 101 by Flores/Grier.
Of course it’s not only about the QB but you said we weren’t building around Tua yet but now we will. It all starts up front. If your QB has no time it doesn’t matter who the skill positions are. Now it’s time for playmakers for sure. We’ll have lots of options. It doesn’t have to be at #3 either.
Correct! NOW, we WILL build around Tua. He has proven he can be the man, despite not pushing the ball down the field in 2020. He’s proven the ability to take hits, to lead the team, but the training wheels were still on to keep him from being killed.
Now then… to BUILD around Tua, is to employ receivers who are on the same page as himself. YAC. Speed. Hands.
THAT’S how you build around Tua.
And probably firstly, ROUTE RUNNING expertise. That’s why DeVonta Smith is so highly thought of by so many. Even last year, MANY thought that DeVonta was the best between he, Jerry Jeudy, and Henry Ruggs.
This conversation is becoming too tit for tat. I think we all agree we need more playmakers on offense.
+10000000000000000000000
Please no Brady in the super bowl
Please!
Tom Lady*, proving he can do it without Bill Belicheat*… and not the other way around.
THUS(!)… proving that DON SHULA is the greatest HC of all-time.
Wow, fucking GB is shitting the bed.
And Brady has been nearly flawless in this game so far.
X2
Man, if we get Brady and Tampa vs the effing Bills, I’m not watching.
I am feeling ill
I don’t think there has been a single penalty called this game
This is Bookmans fault
He’s been playing the Grease soundtrack while sticking toothpicks in an Aaron Rogers doll
M – It’s not just about Watson. C’mon man, you’re on twitter, you have to see the fans (Dolphins fans) looking at any and all options to replace Tua right now. I think Watson was just a convenient excuse for some people to glom onto to replace Tua. It’s like in 9 games he’s not as good as Justin Herbert so it’s time to find the next guy. This isn’t directed at you as far as you wanting to get Watson, I understand that you, Kong and a couple of others want to explore options, especially when a talented QB becomes available. I just choose to stay on course, a course that has been planned probably for longer than we actually know, and the fact that we were 10-6 in that crazy year was very unexpected and I personally am of the belief that Tua will improve, and the fact that we have so much draft capital as well as a decent amount of cap room makes it an ideal situation for us. Sometimes you also have to consider the “why” of the player being available and I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that there are always two sides to everything, and the fact that Watson is so inflexible and not willing to work things out makes me even more skeptical of him.
I’ll never agree with chasing points in the 3rd quarter. I don’t care what the chart says. The only time I would go for 2 is in the closing minutes of a game, or if you’re down so big you need to have those points (like the Pets in the SB against Atlanta).
Whatever, I’m just glad the Packers are back in it. Got us a game now.
Piggy, not March, not even February, right now . . . Check this out
https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-pol-baltimore-coronavirus-restrictions-20210120-ayhmig2vbngghf22ohgyxrhgei-story.html
Funny, the (Republican) Governor has had lower restrictions, has been allowing 50% indoor dining in the state for a while, but NOW, 1 week after the Democratic President takes over, it’s SAFE! Enjoy life, it’s all good, all safe. LMAO!!!
The indoor dining ban he is lifting has only been in place since December 2020
It says that in the article
That doesn’t support what you stated, since the election happened in November 2020
It actually supports the opposite
presumably they lowered restrictions before that ban, just like many cities in the US until we started to see the second surge – and that also contradicts what you said.
As a matter of fact, one state or city changing its rules doesn’t support what you are saying. If you are going to call it a coordinated political effort to hurt the economy, it better be demonstrated across the board everywhere, not just here and there.
Riiiiiiight. Oh man, I’m just glad that you guys are the ones that have to defend the bullshit now. He could have gone with the Governor’s decision immediately, but no, he waits until the Dem President is in office. I can’t wait to see all the other excuses forthcoming, I assure you there will be hundreds to defend. lol
Excuse? Wtf!
He banned indoor dining in December…after the election
It could not have had any political advantage in December
Your argument doesn’t make any sense
Woohoo!!
Tampa D keeps getting it done.
perfect block in the back on that screen to Gronk, but hey let’s just keep the flags in the pockets
And now the Pack has to make a 2 pt conversion because they didn’t effing take the point earlier, smh.
Can’t believe Rodgers didn’t run that in
Why did they kick a FG?
Let’s give the ball back to Brady and hope he can’t oick up a first down….wtf?!
That ref enjoys suspense
Just don’t grab the receivers shirt for one play. How hard is that?
The Bucs DB’s, especially #23, has been grabbing the whole game and the ref 25 yards down field decides to call one now? A game deciding call and that’s bull shit.
I’d post it again but I’m dry heaving now!
Sorry folks. I am glad for this selfishly because I hate the Packers, but I am also I awe of Brady.
I just hope the Chiefs or Bills crush the Bucs
I’ll root for Brady before I root for the Bills
Can’t do it
I am really pulling for the Chiefs tonight. I have to be honest, if the Bucs play the Bills I am cheering for the Bucs. I want them to remain Suberbowless winners.
That’s it! I know it is true now. These refs have given calls to brady his whole career. These refs get paid off by the billionaire tech moguls to make calls that favor Brady. If the refs don’t follow through, Soros calls in ANTIFA to cause havoc outside the refs homes. It’s all fixed!
Bookman is my brother from another mother it seems. I’m also super happy to see Rodgers sitting at home again and don’t mind Brady now. I hope the Chiefs set the Bills on fire.
Rodgers is an arrogant prick. I have no issues with him once again not rising to the occasion in a big moment. Take it from me, Packer fans under 35 have known nothing other than success and act like it. Really is annoying. The younger fans are really arrogant, and some of them my age are also
Yeah, I really dislike Rodgers. Was never my fav team but my dislike since Rodgers is much higher. Guy can do no wrong…except in playoff games.
Exactly
Pigs – What don’t you understand? He kept it closed while Trump was still President and then opened them up a week after the new Democratic President was in office so the economy will reflect from here on in, and I’m sure they won’t be reporting COVID-19 every second anymore, it’s no longer necessary. Does this help you any?
Mike
It’s a crazy theory
I don’t know how to spell it out to you. They even announced that they would be lifted when they imposed the restrictions
This article is from December when they imposed them. They say in the article they will be lifted by Jan 16 and this article was published when they announced the restrictions
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/new-coronavirus-restrictions-in-prince-georges-county/65-d4fc8237-0388-4b14-9c95-9d87313724bc
The argument you are making was the same argument I was hearing about November
It makes more sense using November as a target date than January. If you want to do it to motivate people to turn against a candidate, you do it before The election and then shift gears after that election . You don’t wait until he’s sworn in
Also I can’t imagine all the governors and mayors risking their own political careers simply to insure trump loses. That absurd
Aside from that and I keep saying thesis and you ignore it – this was not exclusive to the US or our politics. Shutdowns are what Europe did. They are what Australia and Asia did too
It’s got nothing to do with politics
I’m going to let this go, it has nothing to do with Trump losses, but everything to do with Biden’s gains. I keep saying it. What good is it opening up in December when the the new President isn’t in office yet? He couldn’t claim the gains and the turnaround in the economy. Now he can. It’s not that important, it’s just so funny how you or no other Democrat will say it’s not safe to open now though, I guess that’s the bigger point. As long as your fearless leaders say it’s safe, it must be because they care about the people first and foremost.
I love how the commentators said on the last Packers drive that the refs are letting them play, despite the fact that there was so much contact between the Bucs DB and Pack WR. He held him nearly the entire route, NO CALL. Then a slight jersey pull which didn’t impede the receiver one bit on the last drive, potentially the last offensive play before punting and they throw the flag and make the call. This is like the tuck rule all over again, go to any length to get Brady in again.
About as egregious as the Rams no call but refs don’t decide games…………..
WELL,WELL, WELL. Rays win the American League pennant, Lightning win the Stanley Cup and the Bucs will be hosting the Super Bowl. It’s been an interesting few months here in Tampa Bay. I find myself in the not so great position of rooting for Brady should the Bills make it to the Super Bowl. HOWEVER, if the Chiefs prevail, I’ll be rooting FOR THEM to spoil the Bucs big party!
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Head Coach LaFleur of Green Bay needs his fucking head examined!! NOT going for the touchdown on 4th and goal with about 3 minutes left WAS HIS FAULT!!!
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Will be hootin’ for the Chiefs tonight!!
Piggy,
While I agree it wasn’t R vs D politics, it was definitely politics. Those people either were terrified of not getting re-elected or just followed the herd. Have you heard of the Great Barrington Declaration? Thousands of experts who were against the lockdowns who spoke out….it didn’t change anything. The reason this continued for so long is that none of it was about science. Follow the science was never used.
Absolutely, but they certainly used that tagline the last year until it was worn out. Apparently, the science isn’t as important as a strong Democratic run economy.
Man does Tom Brady live a very charmed life or what?
At the very least semi-charmed kind of life. lol
He has earned what he has achieved imo
So Brady gets a PI call to seal the game when the refs had been letting them play ALL GAME.
Then Hill drops a pass that would have been a big play and put the Chiefs in scoring position, and now Hardman drops a punt return gifting the Bills a TD and a 9 point lead. Today is turning into a certifiable nightmare.
lol
Woohoo!!!!!
New Age
The Great Barrington Declaration has been rejected by most of the scientific world and sponsored by a non scientific political group (The American Institute for Economic Research.
They advocated for herd immunity, which a lot of scientists think is reckless
Here is one open letter denouncing it I found online
https://apha.org/news-and-media/news-releases/apha-news-releases/2020/public-health-orgs-condemn-sars-covid2-plan
They were so desperate to release it they released it with fake names who had nothing to with science
I don’t know about you, but I’m not taking health pointers from Dr Johnny Bananas
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-dr-johnny-bananas-and-dr-person-fakename-among-medical-signatories-on-herd-immunity-open-letter-12099947
Anyway, I’m not a scientist. I’m not going to argue science. That’s not what we were discussing. Like it or not we did not choose herd immunity. Trump flirted with it, but he didn’t really push it either. It really was never on the table. I don’t think any governors in the us on either side of the fence pushed for it. The governor of South Dakota jumps out to me as the most resistant of restrictions. That still wasn’t heed immunity
That isn’t what we are discussing anyway. I was arguing with Mike that the idea that the closures were a product of people political sabotage is far fetched
I don’t want to get dragged into every conservative’s side arguments or novel issues bc they are upset about my point of view, like every time I discuss political issues on this blog with some one. Whether or not we should have gone herd immunity or not, is just not something I’m interested in discussing. And even if we should have went that route it doesn’t support the conclusion that closures are the result of political sabotage.
So are they just going to let the chiefs have whatever they want underneath?
I wish the Bills would have played that way against us
We had no weapons that scared them down the field