Disappointment heaped upon disappointment. That’s what the 2021 Miami Dolphins season has become. This author is having a difficult time finding a bright spot to focus on to assist him in getting past this current 1-7 record, and the organizational dysfunction from the the top (Owner Stephen Ross) all the way down from the GM (Chris Grier), Head Coach (Brian Flores), the OCoCo’s (George Godsey & Eric Studesville), the DCo (Josh Boyer), the STCo (Danny Crossman), the rest of the assistant coaches and of course our players. It has been a failure at every avenue, not one good unit to look at and say “Well, at least the ____ is playing well. 29th in points scored and the same 29th in points allowed. 1 year ago, we were SIXTH in points allowed, SIXTH!!!! We were 15th in points scored, midpack.
In addition to the poor play of our football team, we have the team owner calling a QB on a different team on the phone to talk, a QB who is embroiled in a legal mess as he faces 22 civil lawsuits for sexual misconduct.
Mathematically, this team can still salvage a better than .500 season, which seems more ridiculous at this point than our current record of 1-7. If Xavien Howard doesn’t force that fumble, and recover it Game 1 in Foxborough we’re 0-8 folks!!! How have we fallen so far, so fast? Coach Flo looked he had this team on the upswing. Yes, lots of moves were made, but think about the players besides Kyle Van Noy that were traded or cut. Shaq Lawson was not good last season, he had a very subpar season for our Dolphins last year. Benardrick McKinney hasn’t seen the field and he’s healthy in 2021. Ryan Fitzpatrick is on IR for the season. I’d say one guy who may have helped this season may be C Ted Karras but even has only started 4 games this season, played in all 8. What’s basically happened is we have just regressed in every facet of the game. At this juncture, it’s hard to think anyone who is part of this team or organization is safe, all ripe to be fired, traded, or cut, sans the owner who unfortunately can’t be replaced until he decides to sell.
The vaunted secondary, second to none. X has 2 INT’s, and Elandon Roberts who appeared to be the target has one INT, and the rest ZERO. Yes, ZERO! The LB’s we thought were going to wreak havoc on NFL QB’s this season. Andrew Van Ginkel or (AVG at best) has 1/2 a sack. Rookie pass rush terror Jaelan Phillips has 1.5 sacks. Jerome Baker who has been injured most of the season has 1 sack. Emmanuel Ogbah leads the team with 2.5 sacks. Team can still focus and double team Ogbah while tight ends or RB’s can keep Phillips at bay. Shaq Lawson didn’t get it done in 2020 and the combo of AVG and Jaelan Phillips aren’t getting it done in 2021. Christian Wilkins has played OK, and Raekwon Davis was injured and gets a pass. Rookie safety Jevon Holland has been somewhat of a bright spot showing above average athletic ability but I’ve seen him toasted quite a few times. He hasn’t done anything extraordinary yet but he seems to have a good trajectory.
I think we have talent on this team, I really do. I think the coaches have dropped the ball this season, and I believe most of them, if not all of them will pay for that with their jobs. The CoCo’s will be gone. Josh Boyer has a bit of time to fix this defense but more than likely he’s gone too. Whether Head Coach Brian Flores can survive depends on the next 9 games and how the team does in them. He has a chance to come back. If he somehow survives, does GM Chris Grier keep his job? At the moment we have the #12 pick via SF. The Philadelphia Eagles own our 1st RD pick currently at #3. Truth is, while I’d love to have the better pick, we’d find some way to fuck it all up, as it appears we have been doing the last few years. in 2020 we had THREE 1st Round picks. We have an average young QB (Tua Tagovailoa) with our #5 pick. We have a struggling LT (Austin Jackson) who is now playing LG with our #18 pick and we have a defensive back (Noah Igbinoghene) who has only played and been active in 2 games thus far in 2021 after playing sparingly in 2020. Does it matter how low or high picks are for that matter how many when you continue to strike out? Out of the three first rounders, none of them are excelling to the point where they are considered a blue chip player. With our 2 second round picks in 2020 we have 2 starters, RG Robert Hunt and NT Raekwon Davis. Neither has been excellent, Hunt has struggled quite a bit lately at RG while Raekwon Davis showed lots of promise last season and was injured early this season and is slowly regaining his form. 2020 3rd RD pick Brandon Jones is slowly becoming part of the defense and has potential to steal the job from veteran Eric Rowe which could potentially give the Dolphins a nice young safety tandem of Holland and Jones.
The 2021 draft doesn’t seem as bad as the 2020 draft class. Jaylen Waddle is getting lots of targets, but far too many of them are within 10 yards of the LOS. It’s not a Tua, or a Waddle problem folks, it’s an O-line failure. Jaelan Phillips came to the Dolphins as a very athletic, diversified pass rusher. So far, he’s been stifled. He supposedly has a nice pass rush repertoire but it hasn’t been effective as of yet. S Jevon Holland seems to be the darling of this draft so far. OT Liam Eichenberg has played a lot but hasn’t shown he belongs at any particular O-line spot, whether it’s LT, LG, or RT. We’ll see if he develops. Honestly, it’s hard to gauge a player when a unit is playing so poorly, and our O-line has been the worst offender. TE Hunter Long who was hailed as the Gesicki replacement hasn’t quite hit the field running, and has been mostly inactive. You better hope he’s not the guy that replaces Mike Gesicki!!! The other 2 picks, OT Larnel Coleman and RB Gerrid Doaks haven’t seen the field and their fortunes or misfortunes remain to be seen.
All in all, 2 very disappointing drafts, probably much more with the 2020 draft class, considering we had a treasure trove of picks to improve our team and it’s yet to materialize. Chris Grier has to take the hit on that. If somehow he manages to keep his GM post, I’d expect our record at the end of the season will have to be much closer to .500 than it currently is. Same goes for Coach Flo, who built this coaching staff and elected to have Co Offensive Coordinators. That contemporary style most likely won’t be seen again in the NFL. This week we play the even more inept Houston Texans, whose QB our wonderful owner has outwardly courted. Oh, he doesn’t actually play for the Texans, but maybe he will eventually now that we didn’t actually trade for him. He’s been inactive all season so the Texans can, you know, trade him. Well, now, maybe their supposed top 10 QB will hit the field for his team. It won’t happen this week which means our putrid team will probably find it’s only week in which we will be the favorites this season. I’m so excited!!!
GO DOLPHINS!!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
For fear of piling on I won’t agree publicly that mf13 is a self righteous asshole.
I just don’t understand why anyone cares what anyone is? I’m so confused by this. Lol
I never have, for sure.
It’s 4am….thanks pp for helping me start the day lmfao? 👍🙃
Reality in a box…
Not sure why “?” as should have been “!!!”
I hope you’re enjoying your time in paradise.
Totally amazing! Thank you, and more to come. Hostess just made breakfast for me, and going down to waterfall with swimming hole for the day….
Cav, I agree 100% on the long haired ginger being slanted way to the right. I do remember one he did pointing out the hypocrisy of someone on the right. I only posted ones that have some truth that make people think. Others I found to way to corny.
I think you missed on Tom MacDonald though. Like Stanger says he is conservative (I believe him), TM has repeatedly stated he does not fully support one side or the other and is more independent. He calls out what he sees wrong in this country, calls out certain agendas, calls out the fear mongering and propaganda and calls out all the hypocrisy. It may seem he is right leaning because the majority of that is coming from the left and left media.
More than anything he calls out the media, music industry and the Elites.
BBM, cool, bro. I certainly wasn’t saying there was anything wrong with posting them or calling you out for it, I was just saying I think we do see some stuff from both sides. I appreciate you taking the time to give it some explanation in response to me.
I’ve never actually listened to any of the MacDonald videos, I was only making assumptions based on context, so I stand corrected on that and thanks for the clarification.
The long haired guy, I watch his videos when you post them because it’s irrelevant to me whether he’s right, wrong, or dumbing things down, I think he’s funny as hell, lol.
I didn’t take your post that way (calling out). I understand you were just pointing out right leaning stuff is posted. Which I do with the buff ginger bread man. lol
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Rob Demovsky
@RobDemovsky
The NFL’s review of the Packers’ COVID-19 protocols is done.
Per league source, Packers fined$300,000 for violations of the NFL and NFL Players Association protocols, while Aaron Rodgers and Allen Lazard were each fined $14,650.
Full story coming on ESPN momentarily
7:06 PM · Nov 9, 2021·TweetDeck
Not enough.
Agree
$14650? That is probably like fining me $10. $300,000? They will make that up this weekend in merchandise sales.
Basically reinforces his selfish entitled mentality
Yep ,although he is probably pissed there is even a fine, I mean after all he is Aaron Rodgers, the smartest man in the room
I agree Rodgers is a selfish entitled bitch.
Why is he the only one being called out by you guys and the media when he was not the only one guilty?
You have to look at when the lie occurred. It was during the height of the offseason when the NFL was basically forcing players to get vax’ed or they wouldn’t get to play. The NFL was, at that time, was encouraging teams not to sign or retain unvaccinated players, especially ones who were deemed dispensable.
Rodgers did his homework on the vaccines. He was allergic to an ingredient in 2 of them and was recommended by his doctor not to take them. Also, there were huge concerns about the other vaccine causing blood clots. He even referenced Atlanta Hawks guard Brandon Goodwin having to end his season due to having blood clots after getting vaccinated. The NBA tried covering it up saying he had a “respiratory condition”.
“I got sick, then I never recovered from it. I would always have back pain. I was just super tired in the games, like when we played Philly [Apr. 28-30] back to back. Bro, I was so tired, like I couldn’t run up and down the court. Then we went home, that’s when my back really started hurting bad. Then I’m like I have to go to the doctor, that’s when I found out I had blood clots.”
“I was fine up until then, up until I took the vaccine,” Goodwin said. “I was fine. So people trying to tell you it’s not the vaccine, how do you know? You don’t know. Yes, the vaccine ended my season, one thousand percent.”
The NFL denied his request for exemption.
Yeah, he didn’t have to lie. Maybe he didn’t want all the backlash like Zack Seiler and others got just for deciding what was right for their body.
I think the punishment was just. I mean, those who lie under oath to congress go unpunished. I don’t think he was under oath when he lied about getting vax’ed.
Lastly, he is putting no one at greater risk through his lie as the science shows you can get it and pass it on to others vax’ed or not.
You have to look at when the lie occurred. It was during the height of the offseason when the NFL was basically forcing players to get vax’ed or they wouldn’t get to play. The NFL was, at that time, was encouraging teams not to sign or retain unvaccinated players, especially ones who were deemed dispensable.
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Not true. Never was a mandate by the league to be vaccinated in order to play. In fact 2 notable QBs Carson Wentz and Kirk Cousins are both unvaccinated but unlike Rodgers they didn’t lie about it and they complied with the league’s enhanced protocols for unvaccinated players. Rodgers lied and didn’t comply with protocols and by the way the Packers have had the worst breakout of Covid of any team in the league
No excuse for the lie/dodge. Even if not confirmed am also pretty sure he didn’t follow the enhanced protocols for the unvaxed. If he did wouldn’t that fact be the first thing out of his mouth on this?
On this one I start with the NFL rules do not require players to get vaccinated. He didn’t have to get the shot. He just had to go through some measures like extra testing, social distancing and more mask wearing if he did not.
And yeah some teams might have cut unvaxed fringe players cause not worth the extra hassle, but this is Aaron freek’n Rodgers.
Not doubting his choice to not get the vax except he had to know if he did get Covid would cause more problems as far as playing. And that impacts the team, like it is now.
I cannot stand Rodgers and have to live his crap everyday here in the media. Even locally in Wisconsin he is getting blasted by fans. The only reason most fans here cheer him is because of his on-field success. As a person, he is an egotistical, self entitled, know it all, and that does not resonate with most of the fan base here in Wisconsin.
Like I said, he is forgiven without even having to ask for it here, as long as he continues to win.
Phish,
I used to love the old series “The Time Tunnel”. Damn, I’m old.
Me too!
ER,
It’s our culture now. If I can identify you as this or that, then I can attribute certain thoughts, beliefs and actions to you and judge you based on those preconceptions. Then I can silence you, berate you or just down right hate you based on my idiotic preconceptions that really have nothing to do with reality. It’s what lots of people do these days. It allows me to cancel you and your beliefs or political leanings because I’ve already pigeonholed you.
That is really well said. “Label and proceed” is the new way to approach things. Once the label is in place the person knows what you think better than you do.
Easy for you to say you “so called” Republican. LOL
LOL — but also a perfect example. They have been trying to tag me as a liberal but the facts just don’t match up. Not sure why they just don’t label me as a RINO and move on in life. Cause that one can’t debate much in the new GOP dynamic.
And you guys own this shit, because you voted them in😉
I think that comment was an unbiased opinion about how both sides work these days. Not a fan of the new social media culture and political divide.
Oh shit, you said you guys. I’m totally offended!! 😆
Not true. Never was a mandate by the league to be vaccinated
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I never said there was a mandate. I said, the NFL “was encouraging teams not to sign or retain unvaccinated players, especially ones who were deemed dispensable.” This is true. There was no mandate but there was coercion.
I said Rodgers lied and he got punished and the punishment was just.
I wonder how many fringe players got the vax out of fear of being cut or released. Again, I know there was no mandate and protocols were in place for those who don’t.
From MSN, “And while the league can’t force players to get vaccinated, it can create an environment to encourage it happening. That’s where the COVID protocols come in. They’re protocols that stand to ostracize, separate and pressure unvaccinated players to take the shot.”
Even Jerry Jones said all summer that if you don’t get vaccinated, you’re not part of the team.
But some places do mandate getting vaccinated. NFL could have gone that route too, but it didn’t. And still a good number of unvaccinated players in the NFL.
I’m against mandated vaccinations. Think the NFL hit it right with vaccinate or extra testing and other precautions.
You said the was forcing them to get vaxxed or not play. Also you can talk about marginal players all you want but Rodgers is not one of them
Sorry if that came off wrong, I said “basically forcing”. I should have said coercing instead of forcing.
Why are people so out of their minds over all this? This happened yesterday.
My 21 yr old daughter calls me all upset. Her boyfriend’s mother told my daughter that their children ‘are going to be retarded because they got the jab’. I don’t know this woman, I’ve met the BFs dad but not her. I’m about ready to drive down to her house and teach her a few things.
I told my girl, First, that term she used is offensive, Second, I don’t believe his mother has any science background or knowledge to back up her claims and Third, WHAT CHILDREN?!?!
You go Herd
The boyfriend might be really cool, but sounds like his mother is something to deal with. But if she is a conspiracy theorist….. oddly confronting her with the truth won’t work much. She’ll only get defensive and shut you out.
Yeah, that was wacko of her
Can identify a person as their biological sex if I identify as a person who doesn’t accept other people’s identification?
If you say know how about this guy.
No not know
Incidentally I actually don’t care what a person identifies as doesn’t hurt me so I don’t really care
Space Elf!
😆
He actually doesn’t look as weird as some of the people who do this sort of staff.
I saw a girl on tik tok who injected ink in her eyes (professionally) and have really some so,e really weird stuff where people make themselves monsters
My bottom line on Rodgers is he had options. He could have challenged the league rules, he could have complied with the enhanced protocols or he could have received the vaccine. Instead he chose deceit. I think it speaks volumes about his character. Which is too bad because I really like him as a player. I think he may be the best QB I have seen play
Instead he chose deceit. I think it speaks volumes about his character.
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I agree
He didn’t choose deceit — he consulted a specialist…… Dr. Joe Rogan.
One of the comments – 56 catches for 56 yards. lol
LOL
Well thank heavens. So all good on the oline then?
▪ Mike Gesicki has been arguably the Dolphins’ best player, making a handful of one-handed catches and ranking fourth among tight ends in receiving yards with 529.
His 44 receptions are third among tight ends, behind only Travis Kelce and T.J. Hockenson.
His 12.0 yards-per-reception average is ninth. PFF ranks Gesicki 14th among all tight ends.
He’s playing 72 percent of the Dolphins’ offensive snaps, up from 62 percent last season.
The Dolphins, wisely, have used him in pass protection only seven times all season. He has allowed two pressures on those seven pass blocking snaps.
▪ Durham Smythe had 15 catches for 161 yards — a strong 10.7 yards per catch — and he’s playing 52 percent of the Dolphins’ offensive snaps, up from 45 percent each of the past two seasons.
PFF rates him 51st among 72 tight ends.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article255580036.html#storylink=cpy
But ORob says Shaheen plays more
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Smythe has been fine as a pass blocker, allowing three pressures in 30 pass blocking chances.
But PFF rates him only 72nd of 122 tight ends as a run blocker.
Though blocking was his forte at Notre Dame, his run blocking metrics — according to PFF’s evaluation — have never been as good as there seemingly should be.
He has run blocked on 118 plays, compared with 97 for Gesicki, who ranks 117th of 122 as a run blocker.
The fact Gesicki remains subpar as a run blocker is one reason the Dolphins drafted Hunter Long.
It could be a factor in why the Dolphins haven’t given Gesicki a long-term contract, though he clearly needs to be retained because he’s one of the Dolphins with a top 10 NFL skill (receiving tight end).
▪ The good news on Adam Shaheen is he’s rated 29th as a run blocker among 122 tight ends; he has been used as a run blocker on 83 snaps.
And he has allowed one pressure in 26 pass blocking chances. So as blocker, he has been clearly above average.
But after scoring three touchdowns on just 12 catches last season (for a 12.5 average), he hasn’t had those opportunities this season and has no touchdowns on eight receptions (and a 7.1 average).
He has played 45 percent of Miami’s offensive snaps — up from 34 percent last season. PFF rates him 54th of 72 tight ends.
▪ Cethan Carter — the Dolphins’ first offseason signing in free agency — has had a negligible impact as a tight end/H-back, playing just 43 offensive snaps (he has two catches for 16 yards).
His biggest impact has been on special teams (144 snaps).
▪ Long has been inactive for six of Miami’s nine games and has played just 29 offensive snaps and five special teams snaps.
He has no receptions and been targeted once. The Dolphins still don’t have any idea what they have with him.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article255580036.html#storylink=cpy
stangerx says:
November 10, 2021 at 3:23 pm
He didn’t choose deceit — he consulted a specialist…… Dr. Joe Rogan.
Stanger, he chose deceit by using the word immunized versus vaccinated when he very well knew they were asking him if he got the shot. He tries to play these games because he thinks he is smarter than anyone else, and this time he got caught. Could not have happened to a bigger jerk.
Believe me was not a favorable comment on Rodgers. Pretty clear he wanted to skate through the situation at his own maximum convenience….. but then he got Covid.
LOL….just got back from about 5 hours from a beautiful waterfall in La Fortuna from Arenal Volcano. 500 steps!!!
Gorgeous day and had to do laundry. The question of the day is clothes hanging in the pure air here. Do you hang your shirts upside down or topside up? It’s been a long time since I’ve done this, so forgot. I was thinking I didn’t want the clothes pin marks to be seen on my shoulder sleeves so I hung all my t-shirts upside down……lol. Yes?
If that was my biggest worry in life I would have to say you are living the dream 👍🥃🥃🐕
Lol….yep!
Even if will note the salary is cheap. Interesting fact from Barry Jackson:
“If the Dolphins want to move on from Parker after 2021, they can save $6.2 million in cap space (and his entire $5.7 million salary) by releasing him after June 2022.”
“Rittenhouse acknowledged that one of the main reasons he chose to have a friend buy an AR-15 for him as opposed to another type of gun was that “I thought it looked cool.”
Seems a good reason to not let 17-year-olds get an AR-15 and then kill 2 people with it. Whatever happened in the trial he got the weapon underage and headed into the riots.
I’m confused, His friend of legal age obtained it legally and lent it to him. His friend should be in violation of the law. Kinda like contributing to the delinquency of a minor. If I gave my son when he was 17 a 6 pack and let him drive to his friends house and he crashed and injured someone I think I would be held accountable in the court of law.. just saying.
The friend who bought it for him is a “cooperating witness” in the trial. And why not? The cops have the record of sale and the serial number on the AR-15, Not like he can help his buddy now on that point.
https://phinphanatic.com/2021/11/10/what-the-miami-dolphins-have-to-do-to-keep-pace-with-baltimore/
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2021/11/10/dolphins-1-8-skid-vs-baltimore-stand-up-ravens-time/6342865001/
https://phinphanatic.com/2021/11/10/miami-dolphins-fans-can-agree-robert-hunt-oline/
CavalierKong says:
November 10, 2021 at 3:36 pm
▪ Mike Gesicki has been arguably the Dolphins’ best player, making a handful of one-handed catches and ranking fourth among tight ends in receiving yards with 529.
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I totally disagree with that stat, for the simple reason Gesicki isn’t playing T.E.
he’s now a slow slot rec.
he lines up in the slot on passing downs, Shaheen is our T.E.
I don’t know what the breakdown is on where he lines up, but I know awhile back a te argued something similar when they franchised him as a te and he said he should get wr money.
I read where Travis Kelce lines up off the line 70% of the time. Zack Ertz did the same half his career. It’s not uncommon for teams to do this with receiving TE’s who are a weapon.
Yep, if it’s going to be looked at that way, it’ll be the same for his contemporaries, and Gesicki still ends up ranking the same.
The reason he’s so successful is Tua can’t get the ball downfield, his go to guy is gesicki because he can float a pass to him high and gesicki can out jump the guy.
you have to weigh that against a true slot rec with speed and a qb with a strong arm.
I’ll take the latter as the qb with the strong arm can stretch the field and make room for a running game.
The problem with Gesicki playing T.E. is he telegraphs our play. if he lines up at T.E. they blitz!
281 of his yards have come with Brissett throwing it to him. More than half his yardage. And he has lined up for 97 run plays.
i think brissett is more of a deep threat than tua has been but still leaves a lot to be desired,
no doubt gesicki is playing great, i don’t think he’ll be here next year, if they franchise him that’s a hard cap hit. no signing bonus the full amount hits their cap. the fact that they didn’t resign him last off season and drafted a T.E. is very telling, now you think they will take that hit on their cap?
very doubtful.
We may have different reasons for believing it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone after the season.
I really don’t think the move of Jackson to guard should be a permanent move. I never liked Jackson as a 1st round prospect. He was just too raw and weak. He was over drafted at a position that gets over drafted all the time, so I can see the logic. But, he is not a guard unless he gets a whole helluva lot more power in his game. He also needs to get a little nasty. He’s got the feet of a LT. He’s the most athletic OL we have by a far margin. I know it hasn’t looked that way this year, but he is. Plus, where does Kindley play if Jackson stays there? Kindley might end up being a pretty good guard. Not playing him unless he’s just not buying into the program is just weird.
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So, here’s what I’m thinking….not that this is reality. Lol They move Jackson to guard to let him grow up and get some compete in his game. Throw him inside where you better be physical or you’ll get your ass whooped. That toughens his ass up, gives him time to grow and mature which he always needed anyway and also let’s you get Eich on the field for some experience and to see what he is. Kindley is the odd guy out. Or, maybe they’re cross training him at center too.
this is how much he lines up as a slot rec
New Wheel of Time series starts on Amazon on the 19th for all you geeks out there!
I’m concerned. They already had to recast Matt for season 2. I’m just hoping it’s watchable.
the problems with gesicki has been discussed over and over, i’m just going by what i read as i’m not in the locker room.
you have to admit to begin the season he wasn’t being used much, everyone was wondering where gesicki was.
i guess they just found a way to use him.
the problems with blocking and telegraphing our position was linked to the reason why they didn’t re-up his contract and drafted a te, it would seem the writing is on the wall.
we shall see
He’s one of the top TEs in the league and we can keep on franchise cheap or use that as leverage for long-term. Last position am worried about.
DAMN AMAZON!!!! Been waiting for someone to make WOT for decades!! The rights were sold two or three times before Amazon finally produced it.
Too bad for me I boycott Amazon
Regarding Rittenhouse – he was attacked and he killed two people defending himself. Gun was legal as was his possession of the gun. Unlike the third guy he shot who was a convicted felon with an illegal gun.
I am not a lawyer, but from what I’ve seen so far, I’m having a hard time seeing how the prosecution can possibly get a conviction on anything other than him possessing a dangerous weapon being under 18.
I think some of the perception of it can be misleading
Bc the prosecution is fighting to bring stuff into evidence a verdict should not hinge on
But they really made the kind of mistake that might lead to a mistrial by pushing and pushing for something they really didn’t have to push for
And they put way to much emphasis on the belief he was motivated to be a social media star – and I’m really confused with the emphasis on that rather than practicality
A self defense defense is affrimative defenses – it’s not three prosecutions burden to prove an affirmative defense, just challenge it
That’s why I say it can be misleading
Ultimately the defense has to satisfy a burden
Which is to say that if the prosecution can’t get evidence in and fails over and over again to do that, it doesn’t mean the other side satisfied that burden
stangerx says:
November 9, 2021 at 8:01 pm
For whatever reason M13 doesn’t think I live my political life right. Which is strange cause plenty of Democrats on the board he could go after. And that don’t think anyone has done more Republican politics than me. Today it was about laughing about Q.
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Stanger, I simply fail to understand why you always trash the conservative movement. And just earlier today, you were going after Kyle Rittenhouse.
I don’t CARE how you live your political life, man! I’m just totally ‘mind-fucked’ as to how you call yourself a Republican, yet constantly disrespect the right side of the aisle. It’s nothing personal, yet you take it personally.
If you put it out there (as SB7 has noted, it’s a PUBLIC BLOG), you cannot possibly believe that 100% of the blog is going to agree… first of all, it’s political, LOL. If you don’t like the blowback, then perhaps it’s better not to get into those matters. Don’t internalize it, don’t get offended, and don’t play the victim card like you’re getting picked on.
After today, I’m going to do you a favor… while you have every right to post what you’d like, I’m going to do my very best not to bite on your political posts that rant against Republicans and Conservatives.
Know why? Because I don’t feel it’s worth it to jeopardize our friendship and love of our Miami Dolphins. Call it a concession if you’d like (I’m tired of arguing, I’d rather get back to agreeing), but I’d implore you to please THINK about what I’ve said above. There’s no ‘movement’ against you… but there are a least half a dozen folks on this blog who question your political stances. And it’s NOT anybody’s biz, yet you continue to air it out to everybody (again, PUBLIC FORUM).
My political hatchet is thus buried, even if I’m confounded by you politically. You’re a great person, and that’s all that matters in my book.
GO PHINS!!!
HELL YEAH!!!
I’m glad you put some thought into this but you said you hated the 19 GOP Senators who voted for the infrastructure bill. At that point can’t you see how someone could have problems with a legislator or others in their own party?
But am glad you have buried the hatchet. Even if yeah hoping that actually true.
Rockphin says:
November 10, 2021 at 12:53 am
For fear of piling on I won’t agree publicly that mf13 is a self righteous asshole.
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I don’t believe you understand what self-righteous means, but thanks for sharing, publicly.
Having a spine/backbone doesn’t make one self-righteous. Calling someone an asshole (especially from behind a keyboard) is more akin to a self-righteous individual.
I’m not morally superior to ANYBODY. We’re all human, and to err is human. We’re all equal… so thanks for looking down on me, just because you disagree.
Something to consider…
We jettisoned the veterans, never rememberin’ about gel time and leadership… on BOTH sides of the ball.
They definitely made a mistake going too young too fast. Nothing can be done about it now. The young bucks are getting plenty of reps. Could bode well for next year but we dug ourselves into quite the hole this year.
Agreed, on all accounts. I don’t see Coach Flores losing his job after this season, regardless of how we finish… barring some kind of news that’s near criminal.
Agreed. But the learning curve has to stop next season. Time to play ball and compete next year for the playoffs.
Absolutely. Coach will be on the hottest of seats if he can’t get it done next season. Methinks there will be changes made on the OC and/or DC front in the offseason… and I hope it works.
Piggy,
What I think you’re saying is the burden is on the defense to prove he acted in self-defense.
So the defense will say “this is the way it went down and why it is self-defense.” But the prosecution still has to challenge that and get the jury to believe either their version of events or that the defense’s version isn’t self-defense.
I’m obviously not on the jury so I haven’t seen everything, but it is getting pretty detailed coverage and I just haven’t seen anything so far that even remotely challenges the idea he might have really been in fear for his life.
Yeah I haven’t seen that either
But don’t fall into the trap of believing that those other evidentiary failures have any affect on disproving the self defense. They don’t.
I don’t really like what the prosecution has focused on so far – but a real strong cross examination by itself can undercut that idea. It’s actually the defense’ obligation to prove the state of mind self defense requires for 3 different moments not a general fear for his life that night
but the prosecution flubbed around with this “he wanted to be famous idea “ – the prosecution is looking for some sort of sweeping way to undercut those defenses. If it landed it would undercut it. that’s sort of like a haymaker instead of a jab
And he swung that haymaker and missed big time
But the reality is a jury can find that self defense applies to 1 or 2 of the men shot that day rather than all 3
That the big picture at the end of the day. It’s the defense job to prove that state of mind at each moment before firing each shot – and that’s hard
Unfortunately for the prosecution, those haymakers were so wild he opened the door for a mistrial. So the jury might not even get to decide that bigger question(s)
Prosecutors rarely get the chance to cross examine the guy charged. The prosecutor showed how unfamiliar he was with it today.
I see what you’re saying with the prosecutorial failures regarding the prior evidence and such. Yeah, I’m not getting caught up in those ‘momentum swings’ that really don’t necessarily have bearing on the verdict.
In the event of a mistrial, the prosecutor could take it to trial again, correct? It’s basically a reset, and the DA would then have to weigh whether another trial is worth it?
Not if it’s with prejudice which is what I think the defense asked for today and the judge is considering
That’s as good as an acquittal
Wow, that’s nuts.
If there is a mistrial it can be taken to trial again. There really isn’t such a thing as a mistrial with prejudice
Given all the video of Rittenhouse being chased by the mob, getting hit with a skateboard, having a pistol pointed at him (as it turned out by a convicted felon who couldn’t legally possess a firearm), I am surprised they prosecuted to begin with.
M13, I’m not sure Boyer is on the hot seat because this defense is Flores’ defense. They have the same approach. They just have to play better. There is talent on defense.
As for the OCs I still think the OL is the main culprit. They’re bad.
I think that’s fair, regarding Boyer. It’s been nice seeing this Defense come together in recent weeks, and I DO see promise there… good take, and I hear ya.
But what with the Offense? Man, that’s a mixed bag, IMO. Is it the coaching or the drafting that our O-Line sucks so badly? And why can’t we scheme around a shoddy O-Line, as the Stealers* have done all season long thus far?
That’s a ‘chicken or the egg’ discussion that WILL be addressed in the offseason. I’m still not good with co-OCs, but that’s just me. There will certainly be a shakeup on the Offensive side of the ball, IMO.
Honestly… this is the worst scenario (what we’ve seen this season) by which to evaluate the young Tua. Tua’s still recovering from his ribs and now a broken middle finger and his passing hand, behind the worst O-Line in the NFL right now, his receivers are banged up (to put it lightly), and we’re experimenting with Co-OCs… with some saying that it’s Charlie Frye who is actually calling the plays.
WOW!
You know how I think teams defend us, don’t let Waddle beat us deep, we’re not worried about anyone else deep so keep everything in front of us – because they don’t think our OL is good enough to sustain long drives. Don’t allow big plays an make them have to execute long drives. That’s why our biggest plays in the passing game are down the seems to the TEs. The offense overall needs a lot of work, but until that OL gets fixed not much will change.
IYO, is it the lack of talent at the O-Line positions, is it that they’re too young, is it the coaching that abysmal, or is the scheme just WRONG for the young O-Line we drafted?
I’ve gotta say, probably ALL of the above.
I think what we were doing was Godsey was calling the plays but Frye was the voice in the QBs helmet communicating them. Now it’s Godsey calling the plays and the voice in the helmet. I don’t think it’s that a big a deal, never have. It’s not the plays, it’s the execution. How do you run a consistent offense with an OL that struggles most of the game?
I Actually think it’s a big deal not to have a set organized way of doing it from training camp
If the execution is bad now, it flows from that lack of organization
If they figured it out now, in November, it’s like asking your team to execute perfectly without that trial and error period that we see in September, that their opponents got out of their system in September. If your opponent is firing on all cylinders and we are still working through the kinks, losses will continue
I also think the playcalling is horribly predictable but I’ve ranted about that a lot
I agree with ya, Pigster. We should have been able to identify our best 5 O-Linemen through TC, and have them starting together from the jump, in order for them to gel.
And I agree with ya, Tim… our O-Line is likely (if not probably) our biggest problem on the entire team.
So it comes down to either the bad coaching or the bad drafting… yet, it could be BOTH.
But when you call say a run play and the RB gets hit behind the LOS what did it have to do with how they called it? If you don’t block a pass play, same thing. When we all agree that our OL is a weak link, it really all starts there. We don’t know what this offense would look like with better blocking. How many times do you see the OL all standing around as defenders play in the backfield? It’s so frustrating. Then we get a good play and it’s a hold or false start. They’re bad.
M13, I see our OL get beat physically and fundamentally too often. All of them. I’m sure the coaches feel it’s on them too. Maybe our young guys are not ready or not good enough. Right now it looks like both. But as Randy has pointed out, these guys have potential but are green and lack core strength. That can improve but until we see it, who knows?
I’m with ya, man. See my reply above to you and Pigster. Who knows if it’s the coaching or the drafting? MANY variables to work through… but I’m coming around to it being the coaching.
It’s like Pig said the other day (it’s LOGICAL)… if we have so many high picks on our O-Line, it can’t possibly be a matter of so many talented people sucking… it’s likely the coaching.
I really don’t know. But what I see is not good.
Tim Knight says:
November 10, 2021 at 11:22 pm
But when you call say a run play and the RB gets hit behind the LOS what did it have to do with how they called it? If you don’t block a pass play, same thing. When we all agree that our OL is a weak link, it really all starts there…
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YUP, and we absolutely concur. What should we do about it in order to fix it? I’m at loss, other than to bring one of the better O-Line coordinators in the game to Miami. But we’ve tried that before, too.
Gotta run, TTT (Talk To ya Tomorrow)!
Tim
To answer you question about the RB being hit behind the LOS, the kind of thing I’ve been Saying here (live during the game sometimes) is that it’s often the same play, on the same down, over and over again
It seems predictable to me.
I don’t know, run plays are pretty basic in general. You can’t trick your way into a run game. Gotta get some push up front and we struggle with that. That has to get better first. They’re going to get plenty of snaps.
I disagree, the run plays we use are RPO situations, that’s why they suck, when you have a QB who struggles to throw outside the numbers most defenders are inside the numbers, factor that with a slow developing run pass option.
very difficult to have success.
this situation makes the OL & RBs look bad.
knowing the symptoms does not equate to success, you have to know the root cause.
it’s the lack of arm strength at QB which dictates the lack of success
running plays we use are not basic smash mouth football, they are designed to mis direct due to the lack of physicality that plagues this team. RPO, tua either hands off or takes it himself on running plays, which way did he go????
not basic in general.
You’re right Rob, Brissett does struggle with those throws, hopefully we get Tua back tonight.
I hope we don’t, i want to give Tua every chance to succeed, trotting him out there against a hungry ravens squad would be demoralizing for him, i’d rather wait till the next game where we have 4 easy games in a row.
it’s not like we’re fighting for a playoff spot
Flores is clearly having difficult assembling an offensive coaching staff. He learned from Belichick, which is great, but he’s not Belichick. Not many coaches can lose OC’s and DC’s, jettison high priced veterans, and plug and play unknown players like he did. I feel like Flores is trying to be Belichick, where Bill had tons of experience before he okayed that game, as is a far better coach. You can’t go through three OC’s in three years, get rid of a franchise LT, and all pro second year safety, sign and then trade/release impact players and expect to had the consistency and continuity that an NFL team needs to be successful.
Bill had Brady
Agreed. That’s was definitely a big factor.
Rob,
Another problem with us running the RPO IS the OL. In the RPO every lineman starts out run blocking (which we suck at). So ideally the lineman are already downfield if they are doing it correctly. If Tua wants to pass, that ball has to be out before the lineman go behind 3 yards. I don’t think we are disciplined enough on offense to be able to run that proficiently, but I do have confidence in Tua running those plays.
I agree, the scheme is flawed, you’re dealing with inexperience along the OL, they need to learn smash mouth, it limits their thinking and turns them loose. when you have to decide between pass pro or run blocking it slows reaction time and causes mistakes, like the ineligible guy downfield which we’ve seen a lot of, also holding penaltys.
i’m a firm believer in imposing your will, not trickery.
And unfortunately we can neither impose our will our count on trickery. So we’re fucked .
Rittenhouse will likely be acquitted of the murder and attempted murder charges and should be convicted of the possession charge. But whatever the verdict is he is guilty of sheer stupidity. He goes to a protest with a fully loaded AR 15. He is looking for trouble either intentionally or he just so stupid that he doesn’t recognize the danger in what he is doing. He should go to prison because of his stupidity but we unfortunately don’t send people to prison because of stupidity
the people who got killed were also stupid rushing at a guy who has that rifle, also for forming a riot over stupidity. caught up in stupidity all around forced him to make his decision to live another day.
self defense
Maybe they thought the guy with a gun was a threat to their lives. Rittenhouse wanted to play juvenile tough guy cop. He was flat out stupid
pro leftwing blindeye attitude is not worth trying to reason with.
Rittenhouse and everyone associated with tha incident were stupib IMO
i believe having a marshawn lynch get a handoff from a qb in a pro set who has elite arm strength and accurate. makes success in the running game and play action work. we don’t do that.
you have to make the opposing D guard the entire field not a portion of it, the lack of arm strength we have allows D’s to crowd the LOS.
this makes the entire team coaches included look bad. can anyone point out a good facet of this team? is everyone on it not nfl worthy? most are pointing fingers all around.
lack of arm strength is the culprit.
You keep talking about Tua’s arm strength but that is not a problem. His arm more than strong enough. He was an elite prospect with the only red flag being the hip injury. You don’t get to be an elite prospect if you don’t have a strong enough arm. It wasn’t a shock when he was drafted at number 5. You don’t get drafted there if you have a weak arm. It’s not just the Dolphins that made that assessment but all 32 teams had him ranked as a top prospect
Don’t worry, i know you’ll be the last to do it but you’ll soon remove your blindfold. i know the people that make this teams decisions have.
All 32 teams are wrong and you are correct?
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