The 2018 Miami Dolphins have put all their eggs in the Ryan Tannehill basket. For better or for worse, the success or failure of this team will rest on the shoulders, right arm and knees of Ryan Tannehill. This is his year to succeed, his year to finally have the successful season the Dolphins have always hoped he could reach. In 2016, Tannehill was playing close to that level in the final 8 games he played until the unfortunate knee injury which ended up sidelining him for the rest of the ’16 season and the entire 2017 season. This even includes the annual thrashing by the Baltimore Ravens game in which we lost 38-6. Tannehill over the last 8 games had his best NFL stretch, playing to a top 10 QB level. He threw for 1721 yards, with a 69% completion rate with 13 TD’s and 5 INT’s, for an excellent 100.09 NFL QBR. This is what I’d like to see Ryan Tannehill have as his baseline, and maybe play even better, throw more TD’s, and help this team win more games. I think it’s possible. Gase has constructed this team as much in the image he wants as possible in 3 years. The offensive line should be improved with Laremy Tunsil at LT, Josh Sitton at LG, Dan Kilgore at C, Jesse Davis at RG and Ja’Wuan James at RT. He brought in Gore to teach our young backs how to conduct themselves as professionals. Gore, Drake, Ballage and whoever have the talent to move the football. We have some crafty veterans in Kenny Stills, Danny Amendola, and we also have the speedy slot man Albert Wilson, as well as the ultra-fast Jakeem Grant. If Devante Parker ever plays up to his potential, we may have one of the most dangerous WR corps in the NFL. That’s our starting QB, let’s take a look at the rest.
Brock Osweiler QB – 6’7″ 240
Osweiler came into the NFL in the same draft as Ryan Tannehill. He was a 2nd RD pick (57th overall) to the Denver Broncos, who at that time had the great Peyton Manning as their starter. Osweiler finally got his chance to start in 2016 and it wasn’t pretty. Osweiler completed under 60% of his passes (59.02%), throwing for 2957 yards along with 15 TD’s, and 16 INT’s and a QBR of 72.2. Not pretty. In 2017, Trevor Siemian won the starting job, so Osweiler managed to play in only 6 games with 4 starts, and it wasn’t any better than 2016 for Brock. Osweiler was drafted for near elite arm strength, but his accuracy and decision making have countered any arm talent he possesses. He wil, face some stiff competition for the backup QB job here in Miami from David Fales, who Gase brought over from the Chicago Bears. Maybe Gase can work some magic with the big fella, he’ll have to if Osweiler is going to ever help us.
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David Fales QB – 6’2″ 213
Fales was the backup QB in Chicago when Jay Cutler was the QB. During the 2016 season, the Bears employed 5 different QB’s when Cutler struggled with injuries, with names such as Jay Cutler, Matt Barkley, Brian Hoyer, Cameron Meredith, and of course David Fales. Fales only appeared in one game for the Bears that season, and it was very late in the game. In 2017, Gase brought Fales to the Dolphins (Along with Jay Cutler after Tannehill was ruled out for the season). Fales appeared in the final game of the 2017 season against Buffalo, and played fairly well in a 22-16 loss. That was the fateful game where Landry was ejected for extracurricular activities. So not a huge body of work to see, but I do recall Fales looking pretty good in the 2017 preseason, for what that’s worth. Fales definitely has a chance to be our backup, especially if Osweiler continues on his current trajectory.
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Bryce Petty QB – 6’3″ 230
First off, if the NY Jets cast away a QB, why would ANYONE even look at them? Petty was a fiery, competitive, team leader for the Baylor Bears. Yes, it was a spread offense, as many college offenses are, so he needed a lot of work playing under center and going through progressions. Well, he didn’t progress well in the NY Jet organization, and when he did get a chance to play, it was pretty miserable. As a draftee, he was a QB who had better than average arm strength, good size, and very good leadership characteristics. He led Baylor to 2 back to back Big 12 championships. He had a great college career with impressive stats and pedigree. He will be a dark horse to even make the team, we have carried 2 QB’s in the past, including last season until Fales was added to the roster in late October. Petty has little time to really impress to earn a roster spot here, and it’s very unlikely he can pull that off.
So that’s where we stand at the QB position. It’s basically Ryan Tannehill or bust, and I’m actually OK with that. I feel like with a better O-line, Sitton on the left side next to Tunsil, and Kilgore opening up holes for our run game, it will make things easier for Tannehill as the Dolphins offense will be more efficient. Hey, I waited till the very last paragraph to mention we actually drafted a TE, TWO of them! As we all know, a TE can be a QB’s best friend, and now Tannehill has at least 2. I’m excited to see our new offense take the field. This truly will be a team effort, and we will not be relying on any 1 superstar to take over a game. We have plenty of options on offense, with the aforementioned WR corps, with Gore, Drake and Ballage, as well as the TE’s Gesicki and Smythe and maybe Derby, Gray or Escobar, whomever wins that 3rd TE spot. I wouldn’t take any one Dolphins player in a Fantasy Football league this season, I think a lot of our players are going to be involved, we’re really going to spread the ball around. This is ideal for #17.
GO DOLPHINS!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Nice write up Mike
For some reason, I hope Fales wins the back-up job.
Good write up, Mike. May the best man win the backup QB spot. My guess is it will be Fales.
Nice article Mike, in 2016 Ryan Tannehill lost 5 games,
In those 5 games he avg’d a QBR of 74.78
in those losses our RB’s ran the ball as follows
1. Seattle 13 carries for 38 yards
2.Pats 9 carries for 14 yards
3. cinc 8 runs for 48 yards
4. titans 15 carries for 48 yards
5. Raven 13 carries for 62 yards
It’s very clear that Tannehill has to have a running game for him to play well, avg 74.78 on games he lost, his wins must have a very good avg….I wonder why??? could Ajayi have had anything to do with that???…..hmmm……………..
Oh geez man, how many more times can you discuss this? There is more to winning and losing than just the QB and one particular RB.
what are you talking about?? I’ve never said a word about this.
You keep putting the horse before the carriage.
Kind of hard to determine before they play the season.
Completely disagree
Lost that Fales/Buff game by 6 points
Fins had 14 penalties for 145 yards,
I’m good with DavidF as the 2!!!
I like Osweilers potential, and on field spunk!!!
Same draft as THill but still what, 2 years younger than THill,
So he could still find his zone!!!
Otherwise, I’ll take the short area accurate Gorilla that Rock posted at previous thread… 😝
GOFINS!!!
GOODSTUFFF Mike, Thanks!!! 😁
If not for 14 antics,
DavidF would have had his top weapons on the field
For the final drive/potential game winner!!!
GOFINS!!!
mf13ss says:
June 27, 2018 at 12:42 pm
NFL scout on the weak 2019 QB Draft class: “I hope everyone got their guy last year” https://t.co/vQmiNvD50c pic.twitter.com/0lLEq41kMZ
— Bleacher Report NFL (@BR_NFL) June 27, 2018
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Its weak at this particular point but there are a few guys who may have turned those opinions around by the end of the season. I do definitely feel that this past class had more talent than we have seen in recent classes and was the major reason i preferred us taking one. I understand not sacrificing draft capital for the sake of moving up to take one, but again, last year would have been a good year to have made that move.
That said i think that a few guys are poised to really stand out this next year and have plenty of talent to work with. I think the talent right now isnt gonna be viewer as expected standout, but by the end of the year there is going to be several of these guys who eval pretty much the same and they are all going to be considered first round worthy.
“who at that time had the great Peyton Manning as their starter”….. and assume that means that they knew Brock needed to be developed some. Easy to say now, but even at the time couldn’t get why he got that huge contract after not so many games. And they were not Jimmy G in San Fran games.
Same time, dudes that know a lot more about football than me both drafted him high and later others gave him that contract. Must be something in there. At least more potential than what Moore could do for us even if maybe more crash and burn aspect.
And great piece Mike E. Especially like the info on Bryce Petty. Something in there with him too. Think the comp for #2 QB is a horse race.
Finally!!! 😉
Finally, Randy can check something off his bucket list 🤔
stangerx says:
June 27, 2018 at 1:44 pm
And great piece Mike E. Especially like the info on Bryce Petty. Something in there with him too. Think the comp for #2 QB is a horse race.
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There are a lot of +/-‘s when evaling them an determining who we would want to keep in the number 2 spot. My initial thought was dependent on if we drafted a QB or not. I thought if they drafted a QB, we would keep three and it would be Osweiler with the rooking being the backup, and in the case of a minor injury, out a couple of games at most, then the Rookie would get the not. Anything season ending, Osweiler would be the break in case of emergency QB.
Since that didnt happen i see the backup role to be a true backup role and that person would take over no matter the case. I think we have 2 ont he roster and im leaning toward Fales, though Osweiler probably offers more in the way of starter potential than Fales. Fales screams solid backup but i dont see him leading the team. Osweiler i think that, though consistency hasn’t been there in the past, he has more carry the team ptential and more ability to lead a team through a tough time. He also has the better skill set and arm to run the system up to its potential, as long as he himself is at his potential.
I know i didnt really include Petty in that discussion and i think he is the outside looking in guy, who doesnt really offer anything more than Osweiler in a true starter capacity, he doesn’t have the consistency that Fales has or time in the system. He has talent but its never been tapped into and its never been cultivated, so its hard to imagine him as anything as a potential PS guy, whereas the other two dont qualify for PS.
Why do I get the feeling that our fake news beat writers all praised Fales during the OTAs and Mini Camps, and that somehow has trickled down to everyone on here thinking Fales is our best option as #2?
I think it’s more that Gase feels comfortable with Fales, knows his game. I think Osweiler has more talent, but he can’t seem to be really wanted by any team he’s on. There has to be something to that.
Yeah id lean toward Fales mostly because the quote that Gase has said have been most complimentary toward Fales and seem to indicate he has the lead currently.
I think any of the three could be the guy holding the clipboard.
It seems that multiple people who have witnessed OTAs and minicamps have said Fales looked the best of the three. But let’s wait until the pads come on in TC and the PS. He has a lot more to do to land that job.
That’s what I’m getting at Tim, we’ve all anointed him #2 based on these off season workouts.
What QB camp battle? Tannehill is the man and no one else is going to play
Not true, Tanny still has to compete with blades of grass to even see a snap this coming year, one bad plant and Osweiler gets to do his best Jay Cutler impersonation.
Completely off topic, but Justice Anthony Kennedy announced he is retiring today. What a great man. Had the privilege of meeting him. He is inquisitive, thoughtful and politely strong. ONe of those guys where doesn’t even have to show it. When ventured even by reference to a case before the court got back “I can’t talk about that.” And he left no doubt without having to go all Shula.
Just hope whoever replaces him is half the man he is.
Agree with you on Justice Kennedy… he a great man. I’d select either Senator Mike Lee of Utah, or Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. JMO
*he’s a great man.
Not too familiar with Lee, but Cruz I think would be a great choice. Man is socially awkward, but is he a brilliant person and lawyer. Seems to have a conscience as well. Think he is much better suited for a black robe than the oval office.
I’ve *known* (not literally) Mike Lee for about a decade. He’s a VERY good man and more than qualified to become the next Supreme Court Justice. As a matter of fact, Ted Cruz just endorsed him a couple of hours ago.
And Stanger, I absolutely would love to see Ted Cruz get the nod… either he or Mike Lee… I’m not picky here! 🙂
Normally find that whoever the next Supreme Court Justice is will be a young person from a one of the Circuit Courts of Appeals that have never heard of before. And that is a huge pool to pull from. When the last big name that sat before the Senate? Have to think it was Bork. And even if young enough….sorta of doubting Trump would want to have Utah elect a new senator now that Romney will be the other one.
Good call, especially now that Romney has won a Senate seat in Utah. And I do agree with all of your above post. Time shall reveal! And I DO believe it’s going to happen before the mid-term elections.
Stanger,
CHEERS to you, my man! Good convo above, but I must get back to football on here. We wouldn’t want to bore the good folks here with our political talk. 😉
That’s a good idea. Even if love talking about stuff, was just trying to pay tribute a distinctly great man.
ALL good, Brother!
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If Gase is saying positive things about Fales, I would guess he’ll be cut or traded soon. Lol
We NEVER should have let Rishard go.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MattRi00.htm
But at least we’ve got Albert Wilson!
Where’s Landry?
EXACTLY!
Rishard is gone, but that number for Wilson is right there. Hope it isn’t skewed by a break or two.
Steve, I’m not anointing Fales, I’ve only stated it sounds like he’s the frontrunner at this time. I think there will be fierce competition for positions and playing time this TC and PS. The status quo wasn’t good enough and that’s why there was quite a bit of change this offseason both personnel and coaching wise.
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M – that seems more like a team stat than a player stat. I don’t how many WR’s drop screens, but yardage they get us usually dependent upon having a little blocking to get some space.
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M13,
Sadly, we’ll probably see the continued proliferation of WR screens because of Wilson’s speed. I’m not sure that’s a good thing, but we’ll probably see a few exciting screens from him this season.
Every team runs those plays. Amendola has experience with it too and Grant could be a factor here as well. It’s about the execution of every play. Like running the ball on 1st down, if it isn’t blocked, it doesn’t matter what the RB did. LOL
You gotta run them to get the safeties to start to bite. To set up killing them over the top. Gesicki flying through the vacated spot. Zoom! As Piggs would say
We run too many, for my taste…and in bad down and distance situations. Plus, we’ve sucked at it for years. You’re much more likely to get safeties to bite by successfully running the ball. And, defenses have to be worried you might actually beat them over the top before they start creeping forward. I’m not sure we have established we can do that thus far. Maybe we will this year. As for the blocking, it is a really hard play to block and most WR ignore the blocking and start trying to break lose on their own before the blocking ever gets set up. It’s a play where the WR has to show some patience, and the QB needs to hold a split second before delivering the ball. If he doesn’t, there’s no way the blocking gets there. We just haven’t run them well.
I’ve spoken about the WR screen before…
In order for it to work, you’ve got to have a blocking WR… and Jarvis was our best blocking WR. So in hindsight, we should have been throwing WR screens to Jakeem, allowing Jarvis to clear him out.
A BLOCKING WR is one of the most underestimated assets in the NFL. THAT’S REAL
I’m not making the case to have retained Jarvis (he wasn’t Hines Ward), but a BLOCKING WR can spring your RB for TDs on sweeps, for example.
We had 4 rushing TDs last year. What exactly makes you think Jarvis was so good at it besides a few big blocks here and there? I think he was a great effort guy but overrated on many levels.
M13,
There are a few ways to block an outside zone screen. Everyone needs to get their blocks, or you need a guy who is just dynamic with the ball in his hands to make up for the blocking if it’s not there. More often than not, it’s a timing issue. Go too fast, the blocking can’t get set. Take too long, and the defense sniffs it out. WR screens are fairly easy to identify. They’re pretty when they work. It’s an easy completion, but it’s basically a running play.
Agreed, in general. I don’t like to see WR screens, just like you, Randy.
Tim,
Agreed on the running game. We need to get a whole lot more production….and I mean TDs….from our running game. It can’t all be on the passing game. With that said, Gase needs to start committing to the running game more.
Last year was a shit show. We were down at the half and into the 2nd half 13-0 or 13-3 or more all the time. It was horrible. You can’t keep running for 2-4 yards and play catch up as you kill the clock yourselves.
If you have an effective running game you for the most part dont get behind like that.
Tim Knight says:
June 27, 2018 at 8:13 pm
We had 4 rushing TDs last year. What exactly makes you think Jarvis was so good at it besides a few big blocks here and there? I think he was a great effort guy but overrated on many levels.
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Methinks you’re misunderstanding me, Tim. I’m talking about WR screens, and Jarvis was the best blocking WR we had last year. With all of that stated and understood, we should have ran WR screens to anybody but Jarvis… yet, we threw WR screens to Jarvis like 1000x. It rarely netted us a decent gain, and it got tired.
Just because I said that Jarvis was our best blocking WR doesn’t equate to me thinking he was one of the best in the biz (Hines Ward).
And to be CLEAR, I’m pretty PIZZED OFF as much as anyone here about Jarvis’ comments towards Tannehill and our organization. I’m HAPPY that B!TCH is gone now.
I hear ya!
Tim,
We’ve been playing from behind for, what, a decade now? Lol
^^^
Last year was pretty bad.
Does he? LOL
Ballage isn’t 6’3″ and 230, some of these sources just make shit up, or get told what to write, either way its overstated.
6′ 2″
228 lbs
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kalen-ballage?id=32462018-0002-5599-95ff-38837404d292
Our WR screens last year were pitiful!
Stills does not block either, I have seen him avoid contact
He’s actually pretty scrappy.
Dolphins Announce “Back to Football Powered by South Florida Ford” Training Camp Schedule
Miami Dolphins 2018 Public Training Camp Schedule
(All open practices will take place at the Baptist Health Training Facility at Nova Southeastern University in Davie)
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8:30 a.m Thursday, July 26
8:30 a.m. Friday, July 27
8:30 a.m. Saturday, July 28
8:30 a.m. Sunday, July 29
8:30 a.m. Monday, July 30
8:30 a.m. Wednesday, Aug. 1
8:30 a.m. Thursday, Aug. 2
8:30 a.m. Friday, Aug. 3
*11 a.m.* *Saturday, Aug. 4*
8:30 a.m Monday, Aug. 6
8:30 a.m. Tuesday, Aug. 7
8:30 a.m. Sunday, Aug. 12
8:30 a.m. Monday, Aug. 13
8:30 a.m. Tuesday, Aug. 14
https://www.miamidolphins.com/news/dolphins-announce-back-to-football-powered-by-south-florida-ford-training-camp-s
Who is David Amendola?
Danny’s brother?
Nice write up as always Mike E
I like Fales. So does Gase. He brought him here.
GO PHINS
I guess everyone forgot what went on last year, like it was a normal season for us. Anyone ever look at our IR last season? Oh yes and we had to treat our starting center with kids gloves all year just so he could play on game day. The team moved on from that too this year. Throw last year out. It was a shit season. Why do we keep harping on it like it means anything this year? It doesn’t.
^^^^^^^^^^…^^^^^ 1000 times.
Because our D played so well we actually had a winning record, after I believe 7 games, even though the O was awful. If we had RT and McMillan last year, no hurricane, and the OL the team finished the season with to start, we would’ve been fairly decent.
With that being said had we stayed status quo, we would be in the playoff hunt this year, but no chance of going any further. With the 2018 changes we get a fresh start, where anything is possible for this team, including being this years Eagles or last years Browns.
Without one unit getting depleted like the 2017 OL, I believe this team will make the playoffs and win 1 game in it.
RT seems to have matured into a leader, after being out the last 20 games, and Gase has the team now that best suits the type of O he wants to run, so I see the sky as the limit.
One drawback to all the changes is a possible slow start to the season, but the 4th qtr of the season no one is going to want to play us.
The guy I want to be our backup QB, is the guy that gives us the best chance to start a game and win it. You could make a case for all 3.
I usually have a guy I’d like to win a position, because of their potential, but none of these guys seem to have enough.
Our O is based on accuracy, let the most accurate win it.
Osweiler reminds me of Fales, but he isn’t accurate, Petty hasn’t really shown anything as a pro, Fales has made strides, but I believe he’s the least talented of the group and the most accurate.
Fales also carries no baggage, which may be a huge plus, if other determining factors are close. I really have no clue how these 3 will perform in preseason, other than I know Fales will be improved on last year.
Rock – David Amendola is the guy I made up yesterday because all of a sudden I went blank on his first name, and then David came to mind, and it sounded right, so I went with it. Total brain fart.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-andrew-luck-joe-flacco-among-12-players-who-are-facing-a-pivotal-season/
We have 2 on the list, and I agree both of them need to make it happen this year.
Being a pro QB is all about accuracy, If i were drafting a QB that would be my number one criteria, Accuracy above all else.
Baker Mayfield
Tim Knight says:
June 28, 2018 at 7:39 am
I guess everyone forgot what went on last year
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all teams deal with injuries so that’s not an excuse.
we were 4-3 after 7 games last year………wait…………Oh that’s right……we also had an effective running game up to that point.
what a coincidence.
I’m not sure Tannehill is better than Cutler.
I think he’ll be a lot better than Cutler was last season for us.
He may be with the additions to this team, i’m just not sure if he’s better than Cutler on an even basis, he’s more athletic than Cutler, i don’t think he’s as accurate and Cutler moves better than him and is more aware of his surroundings in the pocket
I saw some talk on here regarding the supreme court justices yesterday. It got me thinking about something I learned last year that I found very interesting.
There are no hard and fast requirements to be a Supreme Court Justice. The constitution places very few if any restrictions on who can be selected. There is no minimum age, no citizenship requirement, or professional requirements. In theory you don’t even have to be a lawyer or know the law. The POTUS can nominate ANYONE and if he can get the senate to vote yes I could literally be a 18 year old illiterate foreigner.
Very true. Doubt it would ever happen but you wouldn’t actually have to be a lawyer any more than the owner of a football team knowing about football. The top young legal minds compete to be one of the team of clerks that supports each justice and they know the game.
Rob – Tannehill was more accurate with the players Cutler had in 2016, so i can’t agree with you there
no fair looking at stats,
I just think Cutler has a stronger arm than tannehill and he seems to hit rec’s in stride better, i get that from just looking at them play not stats
Cutler did not have the running game in 2017 T hill had in 2016, two totally different years
Every year is different. It’s never going to be exactly the same, but yet we still make comparisons anyway.
I think Cutler’s arm strength is completely offset by the way he throws off his back foot on every throw. He was wildly inaccurate when he did that, and he did that a lot.
definitely a flaw but i wouldn’t say Tannehill is better, it’s very marginal at best.
Agree — and he was throwing off his back foot cause he was real scared of taking a hit. Exact opposite of Tanny in that respect.
I agree: a porous O-Line, no offseason to knock the rust off, and playing with broken ribs will have that affect on a QB.
and what choice did he have? most of the time he threw off his back foot the pocket had collapsed and he was running for his life, vs Tannehill who stands there like a statue and gets stripped sacked.
LMAO Rob – You’re being ridiculous. It’s OK for Cutler to throw an INT because he threw off his back foot, but not OK for Tannehill to stand in the pocket and get strip sacked? They both have their flaws, but I’ll takle Tannehill any year of his career except his rookie season over Cutler.
who said he throws picks off his back foot? most of the time he was just trying to get rid of the ball, his TD to INT ratio wasn’t bad in 2017
So he only throws picks when he’s in perfect throwing form? That’s reassuring. lol
The difference between Cutler throwing off his back foot and Tannehill standing in the pocket like a statue is Cutler was aware of his surroundings while Tannehill wasn’t
Huhh…
“””Parker has been in on 90% of pass plays in 28 complete games with a 20% target share over last two seasons””””
I guess those 160plus targets to 14 every year
Just made it seem like DeVante was never on the field..
“””Emerging #1 Parker”””
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23771441/2018-nfl-rating-no-1-wide-receivers-all-32-teams
GOFINS!!!
Not sure how to calculate %,
But we had 602 pass attempts
JL had 162 or something
So I divided 602 by 162 and came up with 3.7160 blah blah blah
Is that how to get %
and would that number be near 38% of pass attempts to #14???
HS was many years ago, scratching my head on how to get % of such a number…
25% of 100 is simple but not sure I’m in the ball park with #14 targets..
Anyone, reboot my % procedure memory banks???
😏
When expecting % to be less than 100%, divide the smallest number by the bigger number, so 162/602 = 26.6%
Thanx Steve!!!
Almost tried that, but seemed odd…
26.6 Hmm, thought it’d be higher…
Rob – Cutler has 2 less fumbles since Tannehill since 2012 when Tannehill came into the league. Your theory is off pal
isn’t less fumbles…..better?
Not enough to make your comment that Tannehill stands like a statue and gets strip sacked while Cutler avoids the pressure.
not about fumbles or getting SS… it’s about the lack of awareness…which i hope he improves on…..I read somewhere that Gase was working with him on that.
2017 Defensive Personnel Analysis
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/2017-defensive-personnel-analysis
Very interesting numbers on our Defense here. For instance, we played our Dime Defense only 1% of the time. So much for seeing 6 of our DBs on the field at the same time on any kind of a regular basis… based on last year’s numbers, of course.
We didn’t T.J. for the first 8 games, and we had a bunch of injuries to our CB’s too. Even when we had T.J., we had to work him in slowly
^ Didn’t have
Good point!
We need to upgrade at G and bet you we could get this one real cheap right now. 🙂
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Former Buffalo Bills guard Richie Incognito said Wednesday that he is considering a return to the NFL. Incognito said that a possible return is “to be determined,” but added he’s “excited at the opportunity to be able to come back.”
Asked Incognito about former Miami Dolphins teammate Jonathan Martin, Incognito responded, “He’s still my friend. I wish nothing but well for him.”
I don’t believe that Steve Ross would ever allow Dark Richie to come back to his team. I could be wrong… stranger things have happened.
i owe you a beer
😀
I was joking, but goes to how level of your play gets you more chances. He’s not too long out of an involuntary psych hold, but bet you if he is in shape that some team will at least give him a camp invite cause they see possible quality starting G at a vet min price.
Ross wouldn’t ok that! mental issues equal distractions
Absolutely agreed!
some people have more peripheral vision than others, it would seem Tannehill lacks in this dept, not trying to insult him just trying to figure out why he seems un aware.
He’s definitely struggled with recognizing pressure, but sometimes he sees it, and rolls out and throws very well on the run. Other times, he doesn’t recognize it, and gets drilled. He’s been working hard at getting better in that area the last year while he was out, hopefully it pays dividends this season
That’s really not true. I watched a video of all his sacks before last year, I believe it was for the 2016 season, and he didn’t take 1 hard hit sack, his problem is with small hands he just doesn’t hold onto it.
Obvious pocket awareness has been an issue for him. As has been at times locking in a receiver and/or seemingly going through his progressions. For me both those go to getting the game to “slow down” for him, which for a QB often happens with time. Seemed it was before he hurt his knee. Lets just hope it is now slower still.
stangerx says:
June 28, 2018 at 12:06 pm
I was joking, but goes to how level of your play gets you more chances. He’s not too long out of an involuntary psych hold, but bet you if he is in shape that some team will at least give him a camp invite cause they see possible quality starting G at a vet min price.
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I think an emergency situation could allow Ross to strongly consider such a move.
You cant compare Cutler to any QB, because he has all the tools, but hasn’t been able to put it all together, meaning when he’s on he looks great, but when he’s not he looks terrible, and he’s not on for long enough.
Mike E. says:
June 28, 2018 at 12:09 pm
rolls out and throws very well on the run.
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I totally agree, when he rolls right and throws on the run he’s at his best.
Why do you think that is?
RTs biggest problem has been his ability to read a D, it causes him to hold the ball too long, and look clueless at times in the pocket. He’s cleaned up a lot of his pocket issues though. When he’s outside the pocket ad libbing he’s pretty good, because he doesn’t have to read the D.
Minkah and Gasecki talking stuff at OTAs pretty cool
8 teams that could disappoint in 2018. Now if we had been on that list, after everyone was saying we’re going to suck, then…
I sure hope we hit on our young rookies…Gesicki and Fitzpatrick. They could have a big impact if both of them come in and ball as rookies. I don’t usually expect much from rookies, but I am more hopeful than usual this year.
Right with you. And particularly Gesicki. We’ve all been screaming about what a TE like him could do to open up the whole offense for years. Bunch of us have a whole lot of opinions riding on whether he does.
I don’t think either Minkah or Gesicki will disappoint
Manny Wright!
I have some advice for Winston – STOP doing stupid shit!
YUP!!! 😆
Cutler gave up on plays almost immediately…. over and over.
I’ll take the guy not running 15yds backwards after every snap.
For his talent, he’s been a disappointment at every stop he’s made in the NFL. It’s clearly what’s between his ears, and in his rib cage that’s the problem
A potential ban from the NFL for another infraction from Jameis? Interesting…
He wont be banned on his next one, FN Schefty, but there will be a next one.
Lol at Stinky
Wouldn’t I be in jail if I did what Jameis did?
Probably! Must be nice to be a celebrity… to get away with so much BS.
And why isn’t Peter Fonda behind bars right now?
^^^
For what M13? That one tweet or something else? Jameis clearly broke the law not sure how Fonda did. A public shaming was most definitely in order though.
Wonder who will start in Winston’s place? Riley Ferguson????
Ryan Fitzpatrick probably
Never mind, just realized the Bucs released him already. Shit, bring him in and let Petty go. You can stash him on the PS.
Ryan Fitzpatrick
EZ Wider was way out of line with his tweet, but since we have freedom of speech, he can’t be thrown in prison. Honestly, If Trump would lay off twitter, a lot of other assholes would too
Saying a kid should be ripped from his mothers arms and thrown in a cage with pedophiles is about as nasty as and on par with talking about sexually assault women by grabbing them right in their p****ies. Yet people are so polarized they accept it or excuse it from their ‘side’ and go overboard on repercussions about the other ‘side doing it. I’m so sick of this left/right BS. ‘Merica!
Kong – It’s a symptom of social media, being able to transmit your thoughts at any given moment and project them across the internet for the whole world to see. That’s why I think it’s inappropriate for the President of the US broadcasting his casual thoughts on twitter. No question Fonda was disgusting, but you can’t put someone in prison for saying disgusting things.
I agree with everything literally everything in your post, Mike.
Well said Cav. The lack of objective measures on such is out of control. What happened to what is right is right, the Golden Rule and such? WhatAboutism is a disease.
And right with you on social media. That internet courage. Wish there was a button where you could transport the person to your couch put a big old security guard btwn you and then go “say that again while you look me in the eye and if you do we can talk about it.”
Stang, a button like that would change the way the world works for the better.
Or if the Golden Rule was applied to social media, and all negative posts were removed the second they went up, I think traffic on all sites would reduce by like 75%, lol.
stangerx says:
June 28, 2018 at 3:05 pm
For what M13? That one tweet or something else? Jameis clearly broke the law not sure how Fonda did. A public shaming was most definitely in order though.
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Did Fonda not incite (or at least insinuate) violence against the President’s son? I’m sorry, but that is TOTALLY crossing the line. The Secret Service was — in fact — called to investigate. But because little Peter is a celeb, nothing of real consequence will happen to him.
My greater point is to piggyback on what ER stated… if you or I had done what Winston or Fonda did, we’d been in some REALLY deep poop. THAT’S REAL
I think a ‘normal’ person would be investigated in the same way. Normal people make disgusting comments like that about the President and his family all the time.
I think tweeting a left vs right tweet no matter how obscene does not qualify on the level of sexually assaulting a female cab driver.
M13 — if he broke a law I do not know what it is. There was no active and credible threat. But yes what he wrote was absolutely and totally disgusting.
I’m sorry I even dropped Peter Fonda’s name here today… it wasn’t my intention to get into a political discussion. Point and case: celebs can get away with nearly ANYTHING, whereas you and I can NOT.
Let’s keep it football!
Yeah, I would think folks like us would end being watched very closely if many things like what Fonda said were said by us, but one thing wouldn’t necessarily have any repercussions. Say things like that for a month or so, and you may get dragged out of your house for some questioning.
Except, if you or I posted it on Twitter no one would give a shit. Not to defend that asshole, but his comment went viral, because he’s a celeb.
^ I was just about to type something like this, but you said it much more succinctly.
That’s true Steve, no doubt
Speaking of piggyback, where the heck is Piggy?
BBQ season. Is he in hiding?
In a pit somewhere? lol
Luau party
The NFL commissioner selects the members of the Competition Committee, which currently consists of two owners, two club presidents, two general managers and two head coaches.
Guess all the other 30 are losers….
Freakin season is so close we can taste it!
And may this season be DELICIOUS!
Hell yeah!
I’m drinking the Kool-Aid this year.
Seems the only optimism going out way is from the fans and the team. The people that know the most about what’s going on.
steveccnv says:
June 28, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RTs biggest problem has been his ability to read a D, it causes him to hold the ball too long, and look clueless at times in the pocket. He’s cleaned up a lot of his pocket issues though. When he’s outside the pocket ad libbing he’s pretty good, because he doesn’t have to read the D.
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That and his pocket mobility, both are holding him back. One of the reason when he is out of the pocket he is better is the defense has to treat him as a threat to run. As they adjust and keep their eyes on him, the receivers can work their way open.
I also think he is a kinetic player to some extent, and by that i mean these players are really not comfortable being stationary. Tim Tebow was a extreme example of this kind of player but Manziel, RG3, and Vince Young are other examples where being that kind player and then being expected to try to convert to a pocket QB was a failure. There are other player like Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Stever Young where they are probably still better when moving, and they are better in systems that play design around that strength, but they can manage from the pocket on some plays.
I see Tanny as the latter group, and i have been waiting for a coach who tries moving the pocket with him to help enhance that trait, but we haven’t seen it happen yet, or if they have its always been to a very small degree and not a focus of the play design.
Cutler was a better QB but he also was weak emotionally/mentally and as soon as he was good an rattled, the fact he was a better passer with a better arm just went out the window. Cutler at this point is just broken merchandise, and Tanny’s got a strong enough character and mental state to come back from injury and return to form, we will just see if his body also lets him get there.
Interesting on the moving pocket. I think he’s not bad in the pocket any longer, but he doesn’t have wiggle up that so many of the great pocket passes have. Marino, Brady, Rivers, and even Peyton.
There’s an active shooter situation going on right now in a Maryland newsroom. Violence has been INCITED by all too many. *sigh* 😦
ugh
Why don’t you wait onfind out what it is about? Could be anything.
BailBondMike says:
June 28, 2018 at 2:59 pm
Never mind, just realized the Bucs released him already. Shit, bring him in and let Petty go. You can stash him on the PS.
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Petty can be stashed too. I think Fales may still qualify too, i dont remember how many years he has spent on the PS though so he may be out of time. Osweiler has too many active games
Ken says:
June 28, 2018 at 4:42 pm
I think the ship has sailed on Hackenberg’s career
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I think so too. It was really important for him to land on a team that could correct some of his flaws and get him moving in the right direction because he didnt really get good development at PSU and he didnt get good development with the Jets, but he also strikes me as a player that hasnt pushed himself too so there is a lot to overcome to get him back on track. Its sad because he has/had great potential, i just dont think he is going to reach it now. Im with Ken i think that ship sailed.
On the topic of QBs…
I know he needs some work, but I’d still be interested in picking up Christian Hackenberg. And yes, he can be stashed on the PS. I think his ceiling is far higher than Bryce Petty’s.
If anyone can get the light to turn on for Hackenberg, it’s Adam Gase.
I think the ship has sailed on Hackenberg’s career
One constant we’ve heard over and over for the last 2 years is guys not responding to Gase, for one reason or another, in no way does this mean he lost the locker room, but he couldn’t get out of these guys what he needed to. Some guys weren’t taking the play book home, others like Landry ignored Gase’s wish that he quit the shenanigans, and others didn’t respond to him at the end of the season. All those don’t let the door…guys are now gone, but the media isn’t talking about this, they also aren’t talking about Gase’s rotation, 2 of the biggest accomplishments of the offseason. No wonder they have us only winning 6 games (clueless).
For one person to reach another and get the most out of them, the recipient has to be at least open to the message. Gase might could help the tactic to reaching them but if they are self assured and arent listening or accepting criticism, moving on becomes the only option left. You cant reach everyone and you even if they can be reached they can still be resistant to being led.
CavalierKong says:
June 28, 2018 at 3:40 pm (Edit)
Freakin season is so close we can taste it!
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Yeah I got a sour taste in my mouth again. Oh wait that was just from the radiation therapy
😦
You’re on the road to recovery now though, right bro?
Yes I am doing good. I was just joking around. I am pretty much back to well I won’t say my old self but I am at my new normal
Awesome, Bro. I was pretty sure you were messing around, but wasn’t sure and didn’t want to be the dick laughing at your misfortune, lol.
D says:
June 28, 2018 at 5:22 pm
Ken says:
June 28, 2018 at 4:42 pm
I think the ship has sailed on Hackenberg’s career
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I think so too. It was really important for him to land on a team that could correct some of his flaws and get him moving in the right direction because he didnt really get good development at PSU and he didnt get good development with the Jets, but he also strikes me as a player that hasnt pushed himself too so there is a lot to overcome to get him back on track. Its sad because he has/had great potential, i just dont think he is going to reach it now. Im with Ken i think that ship sailed.
ORob, it wasn’t just injuries that plagued us last year, not a lot went right with that team. This year’s team will not resemble last year’s team is all I’m saying. Not sure how good we’ll be, but it will be different.
For one person to reach another and get the most out of them, the recipient has to be at least open to the message.
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This is what I was saying a couple months ago when some here were dogging Gase for getting rid of Landry and Suh. You can’t force buy in. And when you have subordinates that won’t buy in, est you can do is get rid of them.
Gase is building the team he wants and that’s the way it should be, after all the success or lack thereof is on him. Might as well go to battle with who you believe in.
M13, there sure does seem to be a lot of violence going on these days. Maybe it’s our access to so much information these days that we know everything that’s going on, but there sure seems to be a lot of shootings and homicides. A lot of really disgusting stuff too.
It’s NOT about access to so much information, but I 100% concur with the rest of what you just stated, Bro! There is a HUGE spike in violence… and much of it has now become POLITICAL violence. SMH
A lot of gang related murders too. MS-13 has become a big problem in a lot of cities, Long Island, NY of all places.
A lot of copycat behavior, and people have a sick idea they want be famous.
pheloniusphish says:
June 28, 2018 at 6:25 pm
Why don’t you wait onfind out what it is about? Could be anything.
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This is true, that it could be anything… but my gut tells me otherwise being it was in a newsroom. Nevertheless, violence is NEVER the answer… and shame on ANYONE calling to incite violence.
I have seen your Twitter but I don’t read it a lot.
Tim Knight says:
June 28, 2018 at 7:33 pm
A lot of gang related murders too. MS-13 has become a big problem in a lot of cities, Long Island, NY of all places.
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YUP!
And you know I know this… just as I know you know you’ve read my Twitter! 😉
M – I suspect it will turn out to be politically motivated as well, but I’ll wait.
As will I, man. I see most are already blaming it on Milo Yiannopoulos. Let’s let the dust settle before fingers are pointed.
How the fuck to they blame Milo?
And Hannity blames Maxine Waters. There is so much divide. I’m also no fan of hers, I think she’s a loon.
Tim – To some extent it is media coverage that makes it seem there is more violence. We hear about things that we didn’t used to. But there are also more people, and more people begets more violence. You saw the two clowns in NY that sucker punched the dude on the street and then others robbed him. Buy more ammo.
Yeah a lot of low morals with a lot of people.
No consequences
Doors closing. Later all.
Back in your padded cell?
Be GRAND, my friend.
I don’t even know what this means or what it has to about the Dolphins.
Nor do I understand your lust over “brilliant”, sleazy Cruz as a potential sc justice. Oh my! How has he contributed to the Dolphins?
Doldrums!
Nice article, Mike.
I have always believed Tannehill could be a late bloomer if he had a good coach. Perhaps.
steveccnv says:
June 28, 2018 at 4:21 pm
One constant we’ve heard over and over for the last 2 years is guys not responding to Gase, for one reason or another
I recall the exact opposite, from many players themselves
Mike: Liked your article on Tanny. HOPE that the “new and improved O-Line” turns out to be exactly that. But until they play a REAL GAME THAT COUNTS, we really won’t know if this O-Line is better or worse than last year’s O-Line.
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SAW your response to my criticism of Ross as owner. You asked if I wanted an owner like Jerry Jones. Well, Jones HAS WON 3 SUPER BOWLS as the owner of the team and has built a bigger stadium than has Ross. He also has a MUCH BIGGER, and more loyal, fan base than has Ross. BUT, no, I AM NO FAN OF JERRY JONES!! Perhaps, Mike, you missed my tirade against Jones a few months ago on this site when I ripped him for repeating his most notorious statement. To wit: Jones stated “There’s absolutely NO CONNECTION BETWEEN CTE AND PLAYING FOOTBALL!!” Jones continued “There’s NO PROOF that football causes brain damage in any way!”
Well Jerry Jones PLAYED FOOTBALL at Arkansas and, lately, has been symptomatic of the disease he SAYS is not related to football in his idiotic attempt to deny ANY liability to the player’s union regarding payments for those disabled by this horrific disorder!! Jerry Jones has become a DISGRACE on this issue, plain and simple. Yet he has drawn nary a single statement of disapproval from the commissioner’s office nor any words of disapproval FROM ANY OTHER OWNER IN THE NFL. Don’t be surprised if Jones comes out in favor of the “Flat Earth Theory” in the next few years!!
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As to what I DO WANT in an owner, I’ll state again that Joe Robbie was delighted when Don Shula was named to the NFL competition committee that, among other duties, oversaw the rating, hiring and firing of game officials at the end of each season. Under Wayne Huizenga’s ownership, Shula continued to have input into issues like officiating, instant replay, and the rules of the game. To the best of my knowledge, NO ONE on the Miami coaching staff currently has any official position on an NFL committee that deals with these issues. Nor does Ross have any such position or input that I’m aware of. And that’s to Miami’s detriment, in my opinion.
I’d also like an owner who makes successful hires in the jobs of General Manager, Head Coach, and Head of Football Operations. Looking at Ross’s history of retentions (like Parcells and Ireland) and hires (like Philbin and Tannenbaum) I’d have to say Ross has failed time and again in these hires. And I won’t even get into his mistreatment of season ticket holders since very few of you ARE season ticket holders and, apparently, care little about this issue.
The bottom line is this: Steve Ross is 65-81 during his run as majority owner of the Dolphins. Statistically, he is the worst owner in Dolphins’ history. And he is the ONLY OWNER never to get to an AFL/AFC Championship Game AND the ONLY OWNER not to win a single playoff game!!
Those aren’t opinions. They are facts.
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OUT for tonight.
What!??!? The earth isnt flat?
Now that’s football. ..and smack football. I lo. I may not agree, but I love it.
The NFL commissioner selects the members of the Competition Committee, which currently consists of two owners, two club presidents, two general managers and two head coaches
Guess the other 30 are losers.
The solution for anybody who doesn’t like Ross is simple get together with a few thousand of your closest friends and each of you throw in a million dollars and buy the team or get together with a few hundred of your richest friends and throw in 10 million dollars each
put me down for 25 cents
LOL