For 2018, the Miami Dolphins will definitely have a new look on the defensive line, especially at defensive end. Most notably, on March 2nd, the Dolphins traded for Rams DE Robert Quinn, sending a 4th RD pick and swapped 6th RD picks to the Rams. What the Dolphins are probably hoping for is the 10.5 sacks he achieved in ’14 as a true DE, or the 19 sacks he got in 2013, but the Dolphins would love something in between the two. Cam Wake returns at the age of 36, but we all know and understand that Wake treats his body like a temple, and is in prime physical condition. Charles Harris will be entering his 2nd season, and although he won’t be a starter, the theme at DT also applies to DE, so there will be plenty of rotation going on, and Charles Harris will get plenty of opportunities to show some improvement. Also returning this season is Andre Branch, who had a down season last year as he was maligned by minor injuries. William Hayes also returns, and although he was also hampered by injuries last season, Hayes continues to be a productive player in run support and is probably our best edge setter.
Robert Quinn RDE – 6’4 250
Although we will be rotating players often, Robert Quinn will likely be starting on the right side. If Quinn is healthy, specifically his back, he could be a huge help to the Dolphins defense. Last season used as an OLB in the Rams 3-4 alignment, Quinn managed 8.5 sacks, along with 32 total tackles with 2 FF’s and 2 FR’s. If Quinn can give the Dolphins production like he had in 2013 or 2014, this defense will be significantly better than last year. Unfortunately, it’s been 4 years since he’s done that, but I admire the Dolphins gamble on the former All-Pro DE.
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William Hayes LDE – 6’3 278
Hayes played in 10 games for the Dolphins last season and although he didn’t start, he’s our best run defending end. Hayes will also play some DT, and he will do that on obvious passing downs to give the defense some more of a rush from the middle. Whether he starts or not is unimportant, Hayes will definitely be leaned on for help on the DL, whether it’s at LE or DT.
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Andre Branch RDE – 6’5 263
Branch had 14 starts last year, but as I previously mentioned, he is 2017 season was marred by minor injuries. Branch’s tackle total dropped from almost 50 to 23, and his sack total was down from 5.5 to 4.5. The Dolphins would be happy with his 2016 production or better, and if healthy, Branch may well be the starter, as they save Robert Quinn for pass rush duties.
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Charles Harris RDE – 6’3 250
Last year’s first RD pick showed some potential although overall it was not an overwhelmingly successful season. While the rookie showed some explosive get off, he managed only 2 sacks, but did get 23 QB hurries. This season, some of those hurries need to turn into sacks. The Dolphins have enough talent at DE that Hayes won’t need to be leaned on heavily, but there’s no question they need to bring him along from last season. The 23YO will definitely get his pass rushing chances, but he will also get some work in the run game too. It’s time for Harris to start developing into a complete player, and not just a pass rush specialist.
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Cameron Malveaux DE – 6’5 276
The big Houston Cougars DE showed some flashes last season, mostly in preseason action. He definitely has good size, and the 2 sport athlete (Basketball, Football) has the athleticism to play DE. The 2017 UDFA will get his shot to make the team, but the considerable depth after the Quinn trade will make it more difficult. At worst, Malveaux is a developmental player worthy of the PS.
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Jonathan Woodard DE – 6’6 271
Woodard was a 2016 7th RD draft pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jaguars cut him, and then the Atlanta Falcons picked him up and put him on the PS only to release him from the PS which enabled the Dolphins to pick him up and place him on the Dolphins PS. Woodard recorded 15 sacks in 24 (16 starts) games at Central Arkansas, so he certainly made the most of his opportunities there. Another DE with the right size and athleticism who needs to be brought along and developed. Not to be repetitive, but with the current depth, Woodard faces a high climb to make the team.
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Claudy Mathieu DE – 6’6 250
The former California-Pennsylvania and Notre Dame (Ohio) Falcons player came into the NFL last season as a 25YO rookie. Another player will excellent physical traits, but a long way to go to being a finished product. The Dolphins picked up Mathieu as an UDFA this season. At the moment, Mathieu is a longshot to make the cut.
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Quincy Redmon DE – 6’5 240
Redmon was signed by the Dolphins as a 2018 UDFA. The former Fairmont College Fighting Falcon DE was a 2016 was named All-MEC 1st team defensive lineman with 52 total tackles and 12 sacks. Injuries sidelined Redmon in 2017 as a Senior as he missed the final 5 games. Another athletic specimen who faces an uphill climb to make the roster.
Finsmob Unleashed 
I wouldn’t place my hopes on Fournette staying healthy. That leaves Bortles……
I see the cheats used a 4 man DE rotation 2 years ago, last year they couldn’t, because of injuries. Seems 4 pretty good fresh guys may be as good as 2 great ones, at least I hope that’s the case for our DT rotation.
Because we have 3 dual RBs the playbook will be wide open, no matter who is in the game.
I see a theme on both sides of the ball. Based on personnel our opponents won’t be tipped off on what to expect. Not sure how Gesicki plays into this thou.
That’s what Gase has wanted, nothing changes regardless of who is in the game. Not specialists.
GOTTA LOVE THAT !!!
One week till training camp!
Mike E. says:
July 19, 2018 at 9:39 am
I’m sure Mr. Piggles will return here at some point, then we’ll get an idea of whether he’s still planning on going to the MetLife Takeover or not
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Why is Mr Piggles not here. Did i miss something?
He’s been concentrating on running his practice.
ocalarob says:
July 19, 2018 at 10:56 am
8.2 avg yards to go on 2nd down after drake carries avg 1.8 yards on 1st down…
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Just remember that 1st down is generally considered a ‘rushing down’; that’s when ya see base Defenses being used. You’ll very rarely see less than 3 LBs playing on 1st down due to this.
If our O-Line is truly fixed, Drake’s YPC WILL go up on 1st down runs. Too often he was met in the backfield last year… and he STILL led the NFL in YAContact.
*YAContact per touch.
13kv posted a video of Drake’s best plays last year and many of them were on 1st down. This idea that he can’t run on 1st down is silly.
Like you said, being met in the backfield isn’t on the RB. Just like when the QB is being hit before he sets his feet isn’t on him either.
BINGO! Totally agreed.
That was a great video, had live text from fans league wide, Neutral fans saying wow this wow that on Drake while opposing fans of each week’s games were cursing him !!!
GO DRAKE/GORE/BALLAGE
GOFINS!!!
Rookies reported for camp yesterday right?
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Oh boy… Brent Grimes is getting a sexually explicit cake baked for him today, LOL 😆
Maybe somebody else gets him one this year and its Miko with a ball gag…..
😆
ER – The left ball or the right?
Uh judging by her character im sure Miko takes both.
LOL
One week till TC. Two weeks till The Hall of Fame Game. Training camp and preseason are just about here. Woohoo!!!!
Go Dolphins!!
And, lucky me, I already got to make my first payment to DirecTv for the package!! It’s great. My first payment comes before preseason even starts, and my last payment is right before the season ends. It’s almost like I get to pay for football all year long!
Go DirecTv!!!!
How are the eyes doing….You gonna be able to read the names on the back of jerseys on long pass plays?
The eyes are doing great. Not a single issue. Thanks for asking 🙂
My wife got the surgery last Tuesday as well, and she’s already healed up too. Best money I’ve ever spent.
LOL — you and the better half just took couples massage to the Lasik level.
Must be true Love (if still together),
Now that you know what each other looks like… 😍
lol, my wife said something very similar
Hey babe, am I as handsome as I misled you to believe
Rob the 1.8 yards on first down Is only in your world of fake stats where you take out every first down run he ran for the first down
I still can’t figure out whether you will be disappointed to be wrong or not. Guarantee one thing, you will be wrong.
I think Herd is working on her practice too, I haven’t seen here around in a while either
CavalierKong says:
July 19, 2018 at 1:41 pm
The eyes are doing great. Not a single issue. Thanks for asking 🙂
My wife got the surgery last Tuesday as well, and she’s already healed up too. Best money I’ve ever spent.
Great News Kong !! The only problem I had is it took me nearly a week to be able to put the cap back on the little tubes of moisturizing drops without fighting it.
LOL
Yeah those things are ridiculous. I ‘ve started tossing them after one use. I’ll pay the extra money not to have to play with the lid for 10 minutes, lol.
Mike E. says:
July 19, 2018 at 12:08 pm
He’s been concentrating on running his practice.
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We talkin’ about practice? practice? Not the game, not the game… Not the game that we’re trying to setup on the 16th. We talkin’ about practice?!?!?!
Is this a reference to something? It looks like Dick Vermeil’s “playoffs” rant
Do you mean Jim Mora?
“Coach Gase is one of the guys, one of the boys, and you want to fight hard for your boys. Back in New England, it’s almost like you’ve got a principal, the principal’s office and s— like that.”
— Danny Amendola
Can’t knock the way Beli does it, his record speaks for itself. I’m glad Amendola likes it here though.
Age difference though. Gase can’t act like he is their Dad. He’s shown some steel in there though. Two guards cut after a bad game and Ajayi shipped off come to mind.
Mike E. says:
July 19, 2018 at 2:29 pm
Is this a reference to something? It looks like Dick Vermeil’s “playoffs” rant
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Oh come on Mikey…. Allen Iverson…. you really dont know this or are you just fucking with us…
The Dick Vermeil “Playoffs” rant is similar though.
Now I know it, just wasn’t thinking along those lines.
Tim – Yeah, Jim Mora – Sheesh!
Hey you convinced me it was Vermeil lol, and bad thing is i know thats Mora, and my brain just went with it.
Dick Vermeil didn’t have any rants, he would just end up sobbing in press conferences. Lol.
Funny thing is, he now owns/runs a Winery lol
I saw that. Hilarious!
Kong,
Did you have your eyes corrected up in the Bay area or in SoCal ?
Griffin & Reed in Sacramento.
I also decided to go with the monovision. So my right eye is set at 20/30 and my left eye is 20/15. My overall vision is 20/15 (which I’m told is an unusually good result for mono). I was nervous about the mono at first, but the doc explained that if I didn’t like it, it was easy to take the right eye up to full vision, so I took a chance. Glad that I did.
Rockphin says:
July 19, 2018 at 1:30 pm
Rob the 1.8 yards on first down Is only in your world of fake stats where you take out every first down run he ran for the first down
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Rockphin, they are not fake stats, you can use any criteria you like to determine a RB’s effectiveness in certain situations. and what you do is you the same criteria on other backs to see who really is effective btwn the tackles as we did with Ajayi vs Drake
I wanted to know what the avg yards to gain on 2nd down when giving drake the ball on 1st down, you can’t include his 8 long runs last season to know that.
this is very important IMO, it doesn’t matter if he breaks loose, what matters is moving the chains consistently keeping your D off the field and their D on the field.
you will hardly do that if your avg yards to gain on 2nd down is 8.2 yards.
that is why the running game is so important.
you are arguing just to defend Drake, being wrong or right is a distant 2nd to you,
you roam around with a blindfold on.
no need to argue this point any further, if you don’t understand by now I can’t help you brother.
It’s funny how some never question any lack of production and argue to defend their precious dolphins, they never say anything constructively critical about Miami.
this is rather odd seeing as we finished 6-10 last year??
There is nothing “Constructive” about what you say on here. No maybe if you were talking to the players or coaches it could be deemed constructive criticism but when you rant and make up fake stats that’s all it is a rant.
The burden that all the o17 off field BS put on that team is severely underestimated!!!
As Well..
I wrote an article a lil-bit ago which suggested/concluded that
The 2018 Miami Dolphins are extremely likely to field 14 starters that didn’t start week one o17!!!
o17 has minimal bearing on o18 !!!
o17 was an anomaly!!!
Gase now has more of the types he wants toward the team he’s wants built, got two for one in several instances and now actually has quite a bit more depth because of it!!!
GOFINS!!
This team is far better on paper, than the inherited (off-field BS-LESS) o16 team of 10-6, and those that have remained know now WTF is being asked of them!!!
There are a lot of good peeps around here who seem to need corrective eye surgery. LOL
D – Whinery?
These are my fake stats…..they are”real” until I change what real is… what don’t you understand?
🤯🔫
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ORob, you are the only football fan I know of that criticizes Drake on a daily basis. Not just Dolphins fans, but fans of other teams were all impressed with him and so are most of the pundits.
The only question I have about Drake is how big of a work load can he handle because we don’t know the answer to that yet over an entire season. The guy is going to get the ball a lot both rush and receiving. He’s likely going to make a lot of big plays too. So he’s not Larry Csonka, so what? LOL
ORob has already said he thinks Drake is a great back. He just wants that Larry Csonka featured in a power running game. Man wants what he wants.
That’s not how our offense works. It’s not how most NFL teams work. He’s looking for something that is outdated.
Oddly enough think that model could be coming back with all the fast undersized pass-orientated defenders out there. But clearly not how we are set up and how he wants us to be. Just pointing out what he wants to be.
Stanger, the NFL and CBA rules are dictating how teams play.
The college game too which is the pipeline.
Understand about the NFL rules and going to a passing game, but how does the CBA come into it? That one don’t get.
Teams can rarely practice in pads which is how you practice running the ball and defending it. That’s why the tackling league wide isn’t very good.
Meant to say full contact.
Tim Knight says:
July 19, 2018 at 5:19 pm
That’s not how our offense works. It’s not how most NFL teams work. He’s looking for something that is outdated.
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You should know the facts before you quote them Tim…, the 4 teams that made the championship games last year ran the ball from 475 times to a league high 525 times compared to our pitiful 360 times.
It’s the difference between winning and losing
The top team averaged 33 rushes per game, it used to be much higher. It’s a passing league. That said not sure why you think I’m against the running game, I’ve said I want balance thousands of times. LOL
Rob — are you just saying we should run the ball more? That is what good teams do, even if a lot of times cause protecting the lead. So yeah it is the difference btwn winning and losing.
But you seem to not want just running, but running in the way that you prefer. Think before you have gone to the distinction btwn Ajayi and Drake, who had similar yard stats.
Ajayi and drake did not have similar stats, Ajayi was more effective btwn the tackles, the reason teams can rush 33 times a game is because their rush is effective. it is the main cause of them being up in the game and able to run out the clock, to avg 33 rushes per game is great! a total winning recipe.
i think we avg’d 22 rushes per game, that is losing football and the reason we went 6-10
Was just talking similar yards per game, was I wrong in that? But could not agree more about the rest, including the difference in them as far as they happened. I am so with you on that ORob. All across the board, except think what you want us to do is not what we will. Why piss into the wind? Instead am hoping our team does well in a way that you clearly don’t want.
It’s the type of running game you prefer that I was referring too. We’re not a power running team, we’re a zone running team. You don’t have to like it, but it’s not what we are and most teams aren’t.
Our low rushing total is because we trailed early way too often. I wouldn’t keep focusing on last year, it was a broken season. Gase already showed he’ll run it if it’s working. See 2016. Not sure why you think he won’t look for a balance.
the real argument about this is Drake being penciled in by some around here as the feature RB, if that happens we are doomed as the man does not have the physicality to run btwn the tackles effectively IMO.
If Gore is the featured RB that would change things however IMO Gase may not be apt to running the football like he should, he seems to want to pass every down.
we’ll see….if he doesn’t run the ball we will not be a contender, tannehill will not be good and we will lose. Drake is fools gold
https://twitter.com/all_right_Miami/status/1019645343313661952
Brees: SB winner always in the playoffs
Big Ben: multiple SB winner always in the playoffs
Rivers: been to the playoffs
Tannehill: never been to the playoffs
All those guy got a bunch of years on THill,
And for the most part with all of’Em the same HC/scheme has been run since rookie season or ending up on Saints as a 2ND or 3rd year player!!!
there was another OC who was pass happy…Bill Lazor….how did that work out???
Lazor & JP didn’t even allow THill into the game-planning room the entire time they/Sherman were here!!!
How TF is he supposed to learn the who, what, where, when & why’s of the game with such a disadvantage???
I think this past year surgically attached to Gase’ ear will result in extensive improvement, continued far beyond the level he was playing when last witnessed!!!
GOFINS!!!
o16 was the blind leading the blind with a new HC/scheme for THill,
Now he knows the O inside-out and can teach it in braile (if need be) to the newcomers!!!
He’s healthy all year, as well as other major cogs…
And
The Dolphins are gonna be very exciting while kink’n many asses along the way!!!
Okay not getting back into these two same topics ad nauseam.
Whether you do or not is up to you. Not like ORob hasn’t made as clear as clear can be what he wants and that his opinion is unshakable. At least accept that from the start. And he does like Drake a lot, even if not his kinda of back.
It’s all been said too many times. Tannehill hasn’t played in a playoff game and Drake can’t run between the tackles which is BS. The video proves that. I don’t think ORob understands how we run and that Ajayi isn’t really a power back either. Our scheme is to get our backs to the 2nd level in open space. We don’t maul teams and run them over at the LOS – we pull and trap to create seams for the backs to run through which is also a scheme that’s been around forever.
How about wait and see how this team looks instead of predicting gloom and doom if Drake is the main back. How many times do we have to speculate about this?
Barring injuries, I have said Drake will lead the team in overall touches this year and he won’t be the reason we didn’t have a good season. 🙂
Is there any player on the team Orob likes?
He loves Drake except on 1st down. He’s not a fan of big runs, he’d rather see a back get 4 tough yards before we punt. LOL
stangerx says:
July 19, 2018 at 6:11 pm
But you seem to not want just running, but running in the way that you prefer. Think before you have gone to the distinction btwn Ajayi and Drake, who had similar yard stats.
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You’re right Stang. They did have surprisingly similar stats last year. Drake had more big plays and apparently was a better pass protector (which surprised me). Ajayi had a total of 3 yds A GAME more on 1st down, which is statistically negligible. (Literally one run of 6 for Ajayi compared to one run of 3 for Drake in the entire game makes up that difference.) Drake was effective on a higher number of 1st down plays which more than make up for the 3 yds a game. The numbers we put together a couple of weeks ago show just how similar their production was.
The biggest difference between this year and last will be the offensive line, hopefully, (and getting our QB back helps lol.) If our line is improved, our offense will be vastly improved. If Tanny is running for his life, and our RBs are getting hit in the backfield constantly like last year, then our offense will struggle again. It isn’t rocket science. It all starts up front. There aren’t a lot of offenses that can succeed with a bad oline.
Yep! Skill players aren’t our problem. If trench play is good we will be happy folks. 🙂
Tim Knight says:
July 19, 2018 at 7:35 pm
Yep! Skill players aren’t our problem. If trench play is good we will be happy folks. 🙂
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I really think Kilgore at center may end up being our most important offseason move this year.
I know Pouncey was excellent at getting his block to the 2nd level, but oline play is so much more about chemistry and teamwork than anything else, that I can’t help but believe Pouncey’s reduced practice time was part of the reason our oline was so up and down and never quite right last year. It may have kept him healthy, but did it cost us continuity/chemistry?
How can you truly gel together when the starting center only practices half the time? It means the rest of the oline is practicing while swapping out centers every other day?
whoops, meant to post below, which is why I quoted your response in my post, lol.
ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY AGREE Kong !!!
Though your “””I can’t help but believe that Pounceys reduced practices played a part in OL whoas”””
For me would be worded
Common sense would suggest that that accounted for at least 75% of the continuity/consistency problems at OL..
How many positive plays did his (not in sync) penalties erase??
GOFINS!!!
Common Sense would suggest that
An unreliable one for a reliable TWO of similar ability is always a great deal!!!
Rob LOVES Drake
Go #17!
Looks like Foles was pretty good in ’16 too. Not a one year wonder. F*cking Philly has two legit QBs. They should be able to turn that into a coupe of 1st rounders when they decide who to keep.
Stats Schmatz They are meaningless the all seeing blinded saw otherwise
LOL @ 2:44 to 2:55… that’s something I would do! 😀
Man I hope we have a good year with all parts working so all of us on this board can just enjoy some Dolphins wins together. Since the community, as it is now, has come together, we’ve really only had two years that fit that criteria.
Yea, that would indeed be greatly enjoyable !!!
GOFINS!!!
I truly REALIZE how spoiled I was, growing up on Dan Marino. I mean… how do ya better the best? Just watching him in these highlight reels gives me CHILLS. Seriously… he was the greatest QB of all-time.
Not that you want to, but think of Patriots fans. Anything less than the playoffs is a major disappointment for a team that’s routinely picked as a SB favorite. It’s also like Atlanta Braves fans in the 80’s, they won the division every year.
I think we’ll see a competent OL this season, but I doubt we’ll see a major improvement. OL development just doesn’t work that way. Davis is still a big ?. Tunsil has yet to prove he’s a lock down LT, and James, while good, needs to have a consistent, healthy 16 game season. The two new guys seem to be solid veteran additions, but who knows how they gel? And, our depth is still a concern. If we can get thru the season without too many injuries, I think we’ll be okay, but I don’t expect more than that. We’ve had far too much inconsistency….in play and personnel….along the OL for too long. I don’t need great….just be consistently competent.
Lol, competent would be a major improvement.
Wins 11 games!
“Can’t wait” to see Omar’s reply…..
He did answer it, 100 QB rating.
“we have an effective running game”
I wouldnt use a PFF rating as any sort of proof of anything personally. Ive already shown ya what they think of everything else. Cant pick and choose things a source gives you. If you accept their Tanny is the greatest RZ QB of all time, you also got to accept their but the rest of the team is a big ole terd and so is he not in the red zone…..
Id just ignore anything PFF says because everything i have ever seen from them is about as right as a broken clock.
These were not PFF ratings. They are NFL passer ratings that they tracked. They didn’t cherry pick or alter the standard NFL format. These are not arbitrary PFF guidelines like some of there other plus one minus one type ratings.
Wasnt talking abotu yours….Wyoming’s post.
We are both talking about Wyomings post of PFF’s red zone passer rating tweet. PFF didn’t make up the stat there is not grain of salt to be taken because it doesn’t come from PFF
This guy obviously doesn’t know what he is talking about. he says Drake can run on first down….SMH idiot….
“”””1100 & 9 TD’s, He’s a dynamic, all-around back — he can run the ball on first and second downs and has the ability to stay in on third down to catch the ball out of the backfield. Drake has added a little bit of weight this offseason as he expects to get more carries to provide more balance to the offense.””””
Think that LT knows a lil-bit about being an NFL RB,
I’ll be grinning from ear to ear, cuz we’ll be winning behind such production from any one RB!!!
Long as other key cogs are reasonably healthy!!!
GOFINS!!!
Mike E. says:
July 20, 2018 at 8:39 am
Not that you want to, but think of Patriots fans. Anything less than the playoffs is a major disappointment for a team that’s routinely picked as a SB favorite. It’s also like Atlanta Braves fans in the 80’s, they won the division every year.
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90’s, started in 91 to be specific. We went from worst to first 90-91, and won the division like the entire decade. In the 80’s it was the Dodgers that owned the 80’s, Cardinals and Phillies usually came up on top in ya’lls division.
I can remember so many time though it was the damn Dodgers and Yankees in the series.
Wins 11 games!
Finish this sentence: Ryan Tannehill will win comeback player of the year if _________________? #XOmar
— Doug Hoffschwelle (@Hoffschwelle) July 19, 2018
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If we trade the franchise for Carson Wentz and Tanny converts to WR! …..:) sorry i had too
oops
D says:
July 20, 2018 at 11:27 am
Wins 11 games!
Finish this sentence: Ryan Tannehill will win comeback player of the year if _________________? #XOmar
— Doug Hoffschwelle (@Hoffschwelle) July 19, 2018
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If we trade the franchise for Carson Wentz and Tanny converts to WR! …..:) sorry i had too
I withdraw my “hater supporter” comment. You are definitely a hater.
Carson Wentz was only good because he had the almighty and great Ajayi making all the coordinators focus on him and only him…..
he also had blount, they rushed the ball 473 times vs their opponents paultry 337 times or compare it to Miami’s embarrassing total of 360 rushing plays.
one would wonder how they went 13-3 and won the SB without Wentz??
Kong, For all the reasons you mentioned. I think that’s why the team moved on from Pouncey. They didn’t want to pay him as a top center who they have to baby all offseason and during the week in-season just so he can play.
Randy, for the OL to improve significantly, Tunsil has to step up his game, James needs to be more consistent and be durable, Davis needs to take his game to another level and Sitton and Kilgore need to bring stability to the OL. It seems that we don’t have much luck with keeping our starting 5 on the field for a season or for a large part of it. But sure they all have to play well for us to be better.
D – I thought it started in the late 80’s. The Cards and Mets battled hard in the mid 80’s for sure. Those Braves with Bobby Cox won every year, it was out of control
91, there was one season in the early 80’s, i think 82 that the Braves had a division title. We were generally pretty good back when we had Murphy in the early to mid 80’s but no bulk titles until the 90’s and yeah the Braves then couldnt finish but during the regular season we were almost unbeatable.
Dale Murphy is still my favorite baseball player.
There was a lot of competition in the 80’s between NL teams. It kind of bounced around with the Cardinals and Dodgers at the forefront but other teams snuck in there along the way – Mets, Astros, Cubs, Padres, Giants.
Lol Rock, i was joking and busting balls. I really dont think that poorly of Tanny. I do want to see him prove that the first few years when i was all in weren’t wasted. Better for the team andhim if that happens.
But you clearly like Wentz better than Tanny…..correct?
ORob i probably would choose to have Wentz over Tanny if they told me, here build a team and pick between these two guys. There are a lot of factors involved, and Wentz is also just more my type of QB than Tanny is. If they were to tell me well you cant have him you have to have Tanny i wouldnt lose my shit over i, if just have to adjust how i wanted to design my team, if that makes sense.
As Tim would say “The new NFL” is passing your way to the SB, NOT!
Nothing has changed, the bottom line is this is a physical sport and to win you have to out physical your opponent.
you have to run the ball effectively btwn the tackles.
if this team thinks they can win in Cinderella slippers with 8.2 Drake they are sadly mistaken.
I didn’t say pass your way to the Super Bowl. I said it has become more of a passing league for a few different reasons I already explained. So now you’re the only one who doesn’t think the league has become more of a passing league. Everyone says it is except you. Nobody is saying the running game isn’t important, it’s just not what it used to be. Why are defenses in sub packages with multiple DBs 75% or more of the time, to stop the run?
Even this past Super Bowl both teams combined for 874 yards passing compared to 280 rushing. It’s great if you run the ball well, but you better be able to keep up through the air or you will not win.
“Even this past Super Bowl both teams combined for 874 yards passing compared to 280 rushing.” Now ain’t that an interesting stat. Point Tim.
Wentz was just the first QB i could think too. He has a lot left to prove as well and is also coming off an injury, albeit not a year and a third worth off the field.
So if Ryan missed 1 and a 3rd years due to injury, and the third consisted of 3 games, then 3×3=9+3=12 games he missed 😉
The issue for Wentz and his knee injury is it happened in week 14 last year. So if you do the math, he won’t be a year removed from it until week 14 this year. I wish the best for him because he’s a good guy and a talented young QB, but I’d be concerned with him coming back too soon. PHI obviously has a lot of confidence in Foles to hold down the fort until Wentz is 100%. They have a rare situation at QB.
If you asked me the same thing about choosing between Drake and Ajayi id play guess a number or ennie meenie to pick because i dont really see them as that dissimilar. They have +’s and minuses that offset and i dont really see either as a power back i see both as a one cut runner one with a little more trucking ability and one with a little more vision and avoidance ability,
They are only similar in that they break tackles. Ajayi cant catch and that may be his biggest negative, because Gase needs pass catching backs to run his system the way he wants.
There are PFF player ratings and then there are stats they put out that have nothing to do with them, they are factual stats, not opinion based like their player ratings. PFF doesn’t decide if a QB was efficient in the red zone, they either were or they weren’t, like Rock said there is no grain of salt, it’s a fact stat.
13kv, Drake on adding weight this offseason.
Drake revealed Friday he added five to 10 pounds since the season ended.
““So I’m about 215 right now,” Drake said, speaking before the Dolphins Cancer Challenge Celebrity Golf Tournament. “I know as I run around I’ll probably lose that weight. But maintaining it is definitely something I want to do. Get to that weight to begin with, sustain it during the offseason program. Then when training camp hits, I might lose five pounds, but I’ll still be at an optimal weight for the season.”
YepperKnight, 5 – 10 pounds of muscle added
while the 5 pounds he’ll likely lose during TC/season
won’t be of the added muscle that he didn’t have in o17,
which would suggest that he’ll be faster & stronger beginning to end!!!
GOFINS!!!
Tim, the effective int he redzone part was from PFF’s evaluation…
wyoming85 says:
July 19, 2018 at 8:11 pm
#Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill’s 2016 season in the red zone was one of the best we’ve seen since we began grading in 2006 #FinsUp pic.twitter.com/Ata31WDxH9
— PFF MIA Dolphins (@PFF_Dolphins) July 19, 2018
Its says in that post its their grading….
But it’s based on what happened right? It has to come from some type of production. Is it based on comp. pct., TDs etc.?
The player grades that get skewed for me are the ones when they decide if a player did his job or not without knowing what the assignments were.
steveccnv says:
July 20, 2018 at 1:02 pm
They are only similar in that they break tackles. Ajayi cant catch and that may be his biggest negative, because Gase needs pass catching backs to run his system the way he wants.
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Ajayi wasn’t a bad receiving back from what i saw, he wasnt as good as Drake is in that respect but he wasnt bad. He wasnt a very good pass protection back though. As far as the breaking tackles, i think one was better at stiff arming through a tackle and the other just made them miss. Still both backs to me evaluate pretty similar as overall evaluations, you have to get into the details to find where one was stronger than the other. I think this offense could be run with either one of them. I do think Drake is a little bit better fit, for what we do though, and Ajayi could be considered better in a little bit different scheme.
Ajayi took some bad angles when coming out of the backfield that forced him to drop some passes. He put himself in a position to get hit before his eyes were up field because his back was turned to the defense instead of the other way around. That was the biggest flaw I saw in his game other than his wild running style that sometimes forced him to trip himself up. He’s very good at the 2nd level with the stiff arm like you said and running through arm tackles though.
Lol D, saying Ajayi was anything close to Drake catching the ball is like saying a B cup and a D cup are close.
Ok Captain Steven Matherson, closer to year and a quarter then. Sheesh.
A fifth plus D, your favorite fraction 😁
Not saying we will be near as good on O, but with all the moves still thinking this is the model for what they are trying to do.
Ya think so? Drake is so much better than Marshall Faulk though.
Uhhh… don’t say that sort of stuff. LOL
However I do think that’s how they view Drake due to his explosiveness as a rusher and receiver. Lots of production needed to be looked at on Faulk’s level.
Mike E — I think Drake can fill the Faulk role real well, my bigger Q would be if Tanny can be close to Warner. They spread stuff out a bunch though with guys that can all catch and with speed. Whether am right or not, do think we are gonna have a wide open offense next season.
I remember the world suggesting something to the affect of the rest of the league is lucky that receivers Bruce & Holt don’t run much after the catch, that for the most part they go to the ground quickly (often on their own) simply to get to the next play…
Tim Knight says:
July 20, 2018 at 2:34 pm
But it’s based on what happened right? It has to come from some type of production. Is it based on comp. pct., TDs etc.?
The player grades that get skewed for me are the ones when they decide if a player did his job or not without knowing what the assignments were.
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All of their gradings are due to what they thought a person was supposed to do on a play and how well they felt like they did it. If they would have been saying his red zone stats were the best, thats what they would have said, they said that his red zone grade was the best since they started doing them in 2006. I cant see how to take that any differently than any of their other grading.
Don’t know how you can argue with D on this one fellas.
Well that post doesn’t get into any specifics. They just mention the grades. It has to be about efficiency based on production when in the red zone. What else could it be?
It’s different with a QB then say an OL who allowed pressures when you don’t know if someone else blew their assignment and he got hung out to dry. Know what I mean?
Do they give Tannehill a good grade for what he did even if the play wasn’t productive because of the pressure he faced? I don’t what their grades are based on.
Tim, in response to your 1:03, actually to add to what you wrote:
That’s what happens when your fake narrative catches up to you, the logic doesn’t quite line up.
You mean ORob constantly saying it’s all about the running game?
Touch nose
LOL, okay!
Stanger – When you say handle the role, do you mean duplicate it? If Drake puts up over 2000 yards combined rushing/receiving this season, I’m buying your ticket to the Fest
Oh, and we’re going to the playoffs too!
I don’t think we will but who knows? Was just saying that is the type of O we will be running.
Would be my wildest dream, but duplicate was the last thing was thinking. Just saying they are similar type players and thinking that we will be using him in the same kind of way.
I think he means as a rusher and receiver who can break big plays due to his speed.
Faulk wasn’t a workhorse rusher in 1999 averaging 15.8 rushes per game only rushing 20 or more 3 times. He had over 1,300 yards due to his 5.5 YPCA. He also caught 87 passes for over 1,000 yards. 7 rush TDs and 5 receiving.
If Drake has 1,000 rush and 500 receiving with 7 rush and 3 receiving TDs I’ll sign up for that right now. But I won’t be upset if it’s even better than that. 🙂
Stanger – Jut BB’ing. Faulk was one of the greatest for sure. He was a show in and of himself.
One of my favorite RBs of all time. Same with Roger Craig. I like those dual threat RBs.
I have Faulk, Emmit Smith, Barry Sanders, and Curtis Martin all around the same rating of backs who at sometimes looked unable to be tackled. Overall though, had he had th cance at a full career i think Bo Jackson was the most gifted athlete and terrifying prospect of a running back of all-time. Sub 4.2 speed, 6’1 230. Pure freak-show shit.
Mike E — have no idea what “BB’ing” means, but take it you were just yanking my chain. Am cool with that though. Already have put out that am OD in waiting. Just like talking Phins and football.
ballbusting
Ball Busting
Thanks — but both have a thick skin and am a real literal guy. In my old life people used to call me a Nazi…. and that was on them. 🙂
Both balls have thick skin? It would be weird if one did and one didnt…..
D, Roger Craig had that high leg kick where he would run through tackles because his legs would knock arms out of the way. Really fun back to watch.
As I review our ’18 Draft, the only head-scratcher I’ve got is Jerome Baker over Mason Rudolph.
While I think Baker is possibly going to be a nice pro, I can’t pass on Rudolph in the 3rd round… especially when considering Tannehill is coming back from injury, coupled with Fales and Osweiler being his backups.
I’m not crapping on Baker, nor am I crapping on Tannehill, Fales, or Osweiler… I just feel drafting Rudolph would have been a wiser decision.
The future will obviously dictate the outcome of this decision, thus I’m not upset at the moment.
I know this came out of nowhere and the Draft was months ago… but it’s still the DOLDRUMS! LOL
I kinda felt similar, nothing against Baker but there were other picks i would have liked to have there. Rudolph, Martinas Rankin as insurance for James. Mark Andrews as the second TE, though i do think they specifically wanted a guy with strong blocking skills with the second pick. Arden Key, who has 1st round talent but fell, Oren Burks who i liked better than Baker. Again, there is plenty to like about Baker, but that was probably the pick i was most bleh about.
I would have liked to have gotten Falk in the 6th too but he went high enough that we would have had to trade picks or taken him in the 4th and sacrificed either the Smythe or Ballage picks and i think im going to like those picks in the future even more than i already do.
If got another Telvin Smith I don’t think anyone will even think about it
He might turn out like that, im skeptical but you re right.
Correct… and that’s my hope!
That’s what I think we were looking for, a LB with speed who can cover a lot of ground.
Bo Jackson played on a different level than the rest of the league. Anyone who played Tecmo Bowl knows that.
LOL, true.
D says:
July 20, 2018 at 3:54 pm
I have Faulk, Emmit Smith, Barry Sanders, and Curtis Martin all around the same rating of backs who at sometimes looked unable to be tackled.
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I’d add Payton to that list.
Yeah man, sweetness had tons of heart too
Yep, absolutely! I still well up a bit thinking about his press conference where everyone including him knew he didn’t have long left.
Ditto!
Tim Knight says:
July 20, 2018 at 4:10 pm
D, Roger Craig had that high leg kick where he would run through tackles because his legs would knock arms out of the way. Really fun back to watch.
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Yeah he was a very underrated part of that team. He and Rathman both.
Craig killed us in the SB. Rathman was a classic FB.
Larry Csonka was the greatest runningback ever!
Hold back on that one….. there is John Riggins too.
I hate him for what he did to us in the Super Bowl. But he was great.
Csonka basically made me the lifer I am.
I agree about Csonka, he has more hardware than Riggins
the most skilled athlete running back of all time had to be Bo Jackson
LOL.
“Look what 39 did to that poor tackler”
Greatest unnecessary roughness penalty EVER.
It was great. Whoever Larry Little didn’t destroy coming around the corner Csonka took care of himself.
The top 4 teams ran the ball 48% of all offensive plays for a combined record of 49-15
Miami ran the ball 37% of all offensive plays.for a record of 6-10.
this is why i’m not to thrilled about our chances of contending this year. it would appear that Gase does not value the run. a zebra doesn’t change his stripes.
TEAM…………….PASS/RUSH …W/L
Philadelphia …..564….473…..13-3
Minnesota …….481….501……13-3
New England … 587….488…….13-3
Jax………………..527…….527…..10-6
Miami ……………602……360…6-10
A zebra head coach doesn’t change his stripes, he changes his personnel to accomplish what he wants to do!
funny thing about history is it keeps repeating itself and history shows that passing 63% of the downs doesn’t work.
Tim Knight says:
July 20, 2018 at 4:28 pm
That’s what I think we were looking for, a LB with speed who can cover a lot of ground.
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That’s what we thought we had in Jelani Jenkins, and the exact same reason we drafted him. But of course, we know that Jerome Baker is MUCH faster than Jelani and a bit lighter.
I DO have high hopes for Baker.
Well Jenkins was awhile ago. He did show promise early on but injuries seemed to tap him out.
Correct.
Actually I thought we moved on from him longer ago then we did, it was after the 2016 season when he became a UFA.
Gale Sayers, not to go too far back, but he was the Bo Jackson of his time. Not physically imposing like Bo but doing things no one else was capable of.
Yes, and Brian Piccolo was his friend
I cried every time
Me too dammit!
He retired early, but you ever seen tape on Jim Brown? Man running against boys. Know it is old school, but least in his era he was the greatest. But shiot yeah Sayers was great.
Brown is THE standard. Greatest of all time, he’s amazing.
2 of the 3 are gone.
4 of the 5 if you count Jenkis and Foster who were part of the original 4.
League stepped in and cause we included not kneeling on the field as one line in our player’s code of conduct. Headlines were “four game suspension”, but that was like you can go to jail for six months for speeding. Hate when politics get in my football.
I’m sick of it.
Many people who are still alive who saw Jim Brown play still say he was the greatest player they ever saw.
I wish I’d had a chance to see Brown play. The comparison is always man among boys, and he is for the most part the only RB that some (or maybe even most) people would put above Barry.
I think having concern over Gase’s playcalling and commitment to the run is totally valid. His playcalling concerns me too, and that goes back to the 2016 season. However, I don’t think Gase is stuck in some unchangeable rut. He seems to be constantly evaluating, and evolving, so hopefully this year we’ll see a more balanced attack and consistent playcalling.
He stuck with the run down the stretch of the 2016 season. We were much more balanced during that stretch.
I totally feel it could be just as he said it, always playing from behind kept him from running as much as he wanted, but thats also kind of his fault for not getting us ahead in games so he can do that. He will need to take ownership of fails this year to keep him credible in my eyes at least,.
Yep, Ajayi broke out against Pitt, and it changed our season, and Gases’s playcalling went from inconsistent to solid for the rest of the year. In 2016 he showed he can adapt, which is why I have hope this year we’ll be balanced.
Last year Gase was pretty inconsistent and had some pretty bad games, but you can attribute a lot of that to injuries and just poor overall play. So IMO it’s a concern, but there are definite reasons to have a positive outlook.
This is pretty much a no more excuses year for him too. He has made claims he just didnt have the right personnel to make it work the way he wanted to and he just did what he could with what he had. Last year he got dealt a bad injury hand so this year he seems to be where he needs to be so its time to start seeing that offensive prowess everyone credits him for having. Tanny and Gase both are in a put up or shut up year.
Yep, totally agree.
This ain’t even a greatest TDs in Jim Brown’s career vid. Look at how the guy plays.
One of my favorite stories I’ve seen Brown relate about his playing days, is how he would get up slowly after every play so when he took a big shot or got his bell rung and got up slowly, no one would know he had felt the hit. It was part of his ‘indestructible’ mystique.
Smart move. And he was that “man against boys.” Another have heard that about is Mean Joe Green. Criticism back on that is always “well guys were smaller and less prepared then cause they didn’t train like now”….. but them neither did Jim and Joe.
We were a bad team last year for a lot of reasons. Not sure why we keep referencing it as things to come. We were being shut out at the half or had one score way too often. That wasn’t about play calling it was about poor execution. Maybe you guys don’t remember how bad it was, I do. LOL
The couple of games where he stuck with Drake on the ground was because we played with a lead against both the Broncos and Pats. He has shown he will run it and the proof is in what we’ve talked about in Miami and then look to when he was in Denver and Chicago. His goal isn’t to be that one dimensional in 2017 that ORob keeps pointing out.
I remember a number of games last year that I personally thought playcalling was atrocious and was much a part of the problem as everything else. I remember thinking the same thing at times in ’16.
At times I have thought Gase abandons the run to early, or for some reason stopped running in the 2nd half when it was effective, or ran too many WR screens that were ineffective again and again, etc.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have questions about that aspect of the team. I think Rob takes it to a ridiculous extreme, but I can agree with the premise that going into this season, one of things you can mark as something to keep an eye on is Gase’s playcalling.
I mean we do have questions about this team, right? Or are they perfect already, lol.
When plays don’t work calling out play calls is the easiest thing to do. When plays work it never comes up. LOL
Or when plays don’t work, maybe sometimes it’s the playcalling and other times it’s the execution. Saying the coach is always perfect and players just have to execute is also the easiest thing to do. Maybe they both can happen. Woah, balance, lol.
I stand by the idea that it isn’t crazy to have Gase’s playcalling marked as something to watch.
I mean Gase has called himself out for playcalling after games more than once.
This doesn’t have to be a all or nothing. I’m not saying I’m up at night worried about how Gase will call the 2nd quarter of week 5 this year, lol. I’m just saying it’s something that needs to be proven this year.
Gase on being balanced.
“We will be more balanced this year. I have no doubt about that. We got behind way too much. We had to throw it. The only games we were up were New England and Denver. That’s it. We’ve got to a better job of getting ahead. We got behind way too much last year.”
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article206955564.html
Read the entire article to get insight on his vision. It’s what we have all been saying the entire offseason.
Dowell Loggains loves to run the ball. He could help balance out Gase.
But looking at last year’s plays is pointless. You cant run the ball constantly down 2 scores. The offense last year was putrid. The only good thing that came from it was getting rid of the prima donna and getting to see what Drake could do with some touches.
And while i’m at it….why was the offense so bad?? You’ll get your answer soon enough.
They seem to be on the same page and that’s why Loggains is here. I think Gase not wanting to run the ball is ignoring what you said below and someone repeating it over and over. LOL
I just posted what he said about it above.
Gase has also said he sometimes has to stop himself from getting too pass happy (or someone else has to stop him). Of course that is part of the reason I have a positive outlook on it this year. He is self-aware and constantly evolving. I say it’s something to watch, but I say it believing it will be a good result.
That’s why I don’t buy ORob’s belief that a zebra doesn’t change his stripes when referring to Gase because I don’t believe that to be true with him. This will be his 3rd year as a HC, he’s had to learn too.
Sean Payton went 10-6 his first year with the Saints in 06 followed by 7-9 and 8-8 before the 09 13-3 SB season. I’m sure Saints fans were calling him out in 07 and 08 too. Good thing management stuck with them. They also went 7-9 three consecutive seasons from 14-16 until they had a nice season last year. To me it just goes to show you how hard it is to consistently win in this league. Those losing seasons doesn’t mean Payton isn’t a good coach even with Brees. Sometimes teams go through transitions.
I know a lot of people don’t like this word but sometimes “patience” is a virtue. One thing we know as Phins fans, not sticking with a HC for 4 years or more hasn’t worked for us.
I’m with ya! Let’s see how this year goes. IMO we have a better team on paper than we did in ’16. The potential is there.
Kong, not saying Gase’s play calling is always good. He has admitted many times he could have done a better job. But last year is a bad example. We had a rent-a-QB who came in late to start the season and a whole lot of other shit happened. I write it off as a bad season. However, not sure he could survive another season like that. I’d be shocked if we are bad this year.
I’m with ya, bro. I honestly think a lot of things will come together and we’re going to have a good year. I have us at 9-7 or 10-6-playoff contender. But in order for that to happen we need better oline play, more consistent pressure on opposing QBs, and more balance on offense. (short list)
Part of the reason I include the 1st part of the ’16 season is because it is easy to discard the ’17 season for all the reasons you list.
I think we’re very close in our thinking here, with the only difference being I still need Gase to show me, and maybe you don’t and are completely confident he will do great.
If all falls into place I think we can be better than 9-7 or 10-6 but I’m not ready to go there yet until we’ve seen some games.
How about the defense finally taking that step up. Got some nice DEs…young hungry but unproven LBs…and I think what will be a underrated secondary with Howard continuing his progress, the battle for the other CB spot with 2 good safeties and MINKAH!!…
Yep!
It’s hard not to be excited about the potential of our secondary. We have every mix and match part you could want and should be able to find an effective combination for every situation.
If Harris, Quinn, and Wake can get good pressure, I think our defense has a chance to take a big step forward. Throw in some upgraded LBs and hell yeah!
This man is crazy. Until a snag occurred between the NFLPA and the NFL late last night, he was going to suspend any player who kneeled for 4 games.
I can’t stand someone who waffles like this. SMH
Just so everyone knows, the #MiamiDolphins were trending nationwide last evening because Ross said he’d suspend any ‘kneeler’ for 4 games. Now, he does a 180 after recent revelations.
M13 — he never said that. The team listed kneeling as a reason on a list of reasons that could get one suspended for 4 games as the max penalty. And that goes with what Ross set up last season. You can stay in the the tunnel but no kneeling during the anthem.
BREAKING: ‘Uneven Stephen’ Ross waffles… AGAIN.
stangerx says:
July 20, 2018 at 6:48 pm
M13 — he never said that. The team listed kneeling as a reason on a list of reasons that could get one suspended for 4 games as the max penalty. And that goes with what Ross set up last season. You can stay in the the tunnel but no kneeling during the anthem.
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This only serves to infuriate me even more. So if two people kneel, one could get a 1-game suspension while the other could get a 4-game suspension? That’s discrimination.
This o18 team ain’t gonna be o17’s Dolphins
With 6 different offensive starters on game one, play one than in o17
THill
Drake/Gore/Ballage
Gesicki/Smythe/Grey/Escobar/Derby/whoever
Sitton
Kilgore
Davis/Larsen
And a likely 6 different D starters compared to o17 game one, play one
Godchaux/whoever
Quinn (perhaps Beach gets a second game one start in defense of a run set)
Minkah/Tank
TJ Mc/Minkah
McMillan
Stephone Anthony (if game one, play one is base 4-3),
While (other than BMc), whoever were to start here
would be different than o17’s first D play (Fitz/Bake/TJ etc)
LUCKY 13
Kicker Sanders/
GO 2018 MIAMI DOLPHINS!!!
This kneeling shit is so fucking annoying and changes nothing in society. It’s just a live meme with no effect other than pissing people off.
Think about the politicians who have represented so many crime ridden inner cities for years and nothing has changed. Blame them, not the very small pct. of “white” cops abusing their power and killing unarmed black men. The data has been exaggerated for political purposes. Just as many cops if not more get executed while on duty. Where’s the outrage about that?
I ABSOLUTELY agree with ya, Brother: I have seen BOTH sides of the coin. And to quote Stanger earlier: “Hate when politics get in my football”.
And furthermore, I can’t STAND that our owner is PLAYING both sides of the political coin to his personal benefit. 😡
” ‘Crying Nazi’ barred from Virginia after pleading guilty ”
LOL, I had no idea a person could be barred from a state.
The old double standard. It’s not right and I condemn that stupid shit and any punishment is justified. On the far left they can do whatever they want with no consequences. ANTIFA the fascist group, and all the other Soro’s crap.
*Sigh* I just found it amusing that a person could be barred from a state. When prosecutors can charge people with hope of conviction they do. These blanket statements don’t help anyone. So often they just aren’t true. Oh the right is so oppressed, oh the left is so oppressed, smh.
Four antifa dickheads were arrested and charged here in Sacramento for assault on neo-nazi’s during a rally.
https://gooddaysacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/07/19/after-more-than-100-warrants-only-4-arrests-so-far-in-2016-capitol-brawl/
M13, you don’t like Ross and we all know this. The same with OD. So you have to realize that many of us who don’t see him as this horrible owner are always going to take it with a grain of salt. All an owner can do is give his team the resources to be successful and try to get the best people in place to run the team. He’s only hand selected two HC’s even though management has had some some bumpy roads starting with inheriting Ireland and the round table fiasco with Sparano. Then it was Hickey, then Tannenbaum to oversee him eventually moving onto Grier and Gase.
Remember part of the fiasco in 2011 was him courting Jim Harbaugh. The guy tries but anything that slightly resembles a slip up and some of you pounce. It’s not like he bought a juggernaut team and ruined it.
Ross is just toeing the line not trying to piss anyone off.
He doesn’t have a hardline stance on protesting injustice as he has explained many times. He’s Jewish and knows what his heritage went through. For me our team in 2018 has nothing to do with him. It’s on the football people.
Any Dolphins news lately?
How does everyone feel about the owner?
Any policy discussions?
😲
Do you want to talk about the Dolphins running game? LOL
If you really want delve into it, focus on running on 1st down. Runs that go for 1st downs on 1st down don’t count though. Those are the rules. LOL
Our offense has been very predictable….and not just last year. I think that happens when you’re struggling with execution because you tend to simplify things. We have to change that. I also don’t think we have any plays we feel really good about. I can’t think of anything we’ve done consistently well. The OL needs to start taking charge of games. That allows you to open up your whole playbook. In that vein, I’d like to see Gase do a better job of establishing the running game with his calls. Our OL seems to play on their heels far too often….you need to put them in aggressive situations and stick with it. Let them get nasty and slap some people around instead of constantly backpedaling.
People will say hey did you see that Tim said the 2018 Dolphins are going to be the 1999 Rams. But like Stanger said, and he brought it up, he’s right with what Gase is looking for on offense. Multiple playmakers at all the positions. Not relying on only a few to carry you. Both sides of the ball.
Gase worked and learned under Mike Martz for a few years in DET and SF. I think he wants to be the next greatest show in football. Score on offense and create pressure and force turnovers on defense. That’s the same philosophy Tony Dungy had with Peyton in IND. Gase also had 3 years with Peyton in DEN.
We’ll see if he’s right that Tannehill and his new players can achieve his vision. If I felt we were a team in dire straits, I’d say so. I don’t see that. We’ll talk in November. LOL
Tim Knight says:
July 20, 2018 at 7:42 pm
M13, you don’t like Ross and we all know this. The same with OD…
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I just wish our owner would just stay the fuck out of the headlines for all the wrong reasons. I could list 5 of his failures for every one of his successes, and that’s being kind.
I realize that failure isn’t fatal (and Ross KNOWS this, as well), but he’s clearly NOT learning. He’s a bloody NFL football owner, not a SJW. And THAT is exactly why we don’t like politics being injected into our sports.
If Ross wants to be a philanthropist, he should relinquish his ownership of our team. AGAIN, there’s no room for politics in the world of sports. Most of us try to GET AWAY from politics by watching sports.
How is he being political? By saying he believes in your right to protest but we also have company rules? Which one do you disagree with as a conservative?
Can name 5 failures for each success (in an owners role)
Seriously doubt it!!
One problem with such is that non Miami natives hold what he’s done to the stadium etc with his own 500 million as irrelevant to their own football needs/lives!!!
That alone (to a Miami native) is worth at least five of his miscues!!!
Yea, he came in raw and out of his element, made some (in hindsight) what turned out to be boneheaded decisions on brass, and knows well the taste of his own foot, but he’s been as generous as we could possibly hope for as an owner!!!
He’s sporting another 200 or so million of his own to a new training facility on or within walking distance of Hard Rock Stadium property!!!
Another good thing (worth 5 miscues) is that he’s already taken care of naming his successor (some other rediculously rich guy of no family relation) in case of his sudden demise or death..
But yes, he should completely eliminate talking to the media,
They manipulate him, corner him into replies that become regretful!!!
Otherwise, he’s got us goin in the right direction top to bottom!!!
GOFINS!!!
Tim,
I can’t imagine you ever saying anything negative about the team in July! Lol
That said, it’s all talk at this point. There’s no reason to think this team has turned a corner. They’ve done nothing to deserve that sort of hope. But, there’s no reason to think they can’t either. We’ll all find out soon enough. The great thing about sports is it’s decided on the field….not in chat rooms!
Good to see everyone here, been checking out The comments.
Looks like excitement is in the air, a lot of new weapons on offense, and defense.
I like what Minkah brings to the team, an all around defensive force who can line up anywhere and be effective.
Sabah was creative with Minkah and kept offenses guessing. Rookie MVP? 😎
Also congrats OD on Your Captain Crunch Memorabilia! Great Stories with it make it even more special.
I havent given up on Ross. I think He wants to do the right thing, but the right thing in this case is let the NFL players association and Goodell work it out. He is still trying to figure out this ownership thingy, hopefully He gets it soon.
The NFL doesn’t want anything distracting from its number one goal, Revenues!
I am so tired of the Ross bashing….he is the owner…. it will not change….as fans we have no clue what goes on behind the scenes with the players…..can’t we just enjoy the team he is financially supporting and fuck the political crap already? Sheesh. Go Phins!!! Go Ross!!!
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WUT!?!
Yards from scrimmage I see both Drake and Gore surpassing 1000 yards. With Gore getting most of his yards in the 4th quarter.
Drake averaged 19.8 FF points when he had 15+ carries.