So the 2018 NFL season will be coming to and end next week, and as per usghe, Dolphins will watch other teams in the playoffs. Also as per usghe, we will not be picking top 10. We’re not even good at that! Sometimes if you’re bad, it’s better to be baaaad. Get that top 5 pick, or even #1 pick, and then parlay that into more picks, and really change the roster. No, we’ll pick somewhere in the middle, maybe 15 or 16, or maybe even 18 or so when we beat Buffalo when it doesn’t count next week.
Let’s take a step back. I’m not mad that we lost yesterday, our playoff chances were slim going in, but for a while there, the Colts were losing, so our opportunity was there, but we couldn’t take care of business. It seems like whenever the stakes are high, and the playoffs are on the line, we manage to show our worst. Ryan Tannehill is a big part of that. He’s not, I repeat, NOT the guy that will lift your team. I watch a lot of games around the NFL, and the best QB’s take chances. They don’t always work out, but guys like Brees, Roethlisberger, Wilson etc. when the game is on the line, throw a 30 yard pass on 2nd and 8. They throw a 30 yard pass on 3rd and 10, in fact, they always look to get the ball downfield for a big play. That’s the last place Tannehill looks. He’s a warrior, but he’s gutless in his decision making. He’s not a guy that wants to get the kill, he’s a workaday bee. He’s more than happy to just do his job, but he’s not wired to kill.
There are rumblings for a big front office shakeup in Miami. If so, that would probably signal the end for Mike Tannenbaum ( Executive VP of Football Operations) and Chris Grier (GM). Which direction we would go from this I don’t know, but I’d hope we find a guy with experience that can build the team from the ground up. No quick fix plan, but build the team in the image of what he feels is successful, and sustainable in the current and future state of the NFL. Identify a HC, and mutually agree with that HC on the coordinators, and then build the team. If it takes 2 or 3 years, fine. Don’t cut corners to try and win now, no foolish FA spending. If we take our lumps for a year or two, so be it. Just build it right. The best teams do, and repeatedly are contenders.
If we don’t fire any executives and and don’t bring a new FO, I’d hope that Adam Gase is truly on the hot seat. I can’t be sure he’s not the one, but it’s becoming clearer to me that he might not be. For all of his offensive knowledge and potential, our offense is in the bottom 5. It’s understood we lost players to injury, yet there are players on the roster that are here that I feel are underused. Kenyan Drake had 10 total touches Sunday. He’s you’re home run hitter, the big playmaker. C’mon, it’s not like he’s Tavon Austin and we’re afraid he can’t touch the ball too many times, Drake is 6’1 212. Frank Gore is out for the season, and Drake gets 10 total touches. What’s the problem? Where’s the disconnect?
Forget about the defense, Gase has no part of that, and it’s obvious, because Matt Burke still has a job. Oh BTW, our defense is also in the bottom 5. Yeah, we lost some personnel there too, but it’s more than that, a lot more than that. We don’t make adjustments on either side of the ball, just keep going with what we’ve got. What we got ain’t working all too often, so . . . At the very least, if Gase is still here next season, he has to do 2 things. Fire both coordinators, find a legit OC who can call the plays so Gase doesn’t have to sit on the bench during the damn game doodling by himself. Find a legit DC who has been proven elsewhere, and will straighten out and identify our issues, and fix them. That might even be enough to save his job for the future.
I think we MUST draft a QB next season, and not just pick one in RD 5-7 to say we took a QB. It’s possible the best QB for us might be in RD 5, but then I want that guy competing to start from the get-go, and not sitting on the bench because Gase loves Ryan Tannehill. If Tannehill is still here next season, his reign is over. He is on notice, and any real competitors should have a fair shot to unseat him. If somehow he comes out on top, as soon as he falters, the next man up if ready should be given his shot. We’ve seen this show far too many times, It always ends the same. Ryan Tannehill has never played in a playoff game, and he probably never will. Nuff said!
I wish I had a brighter outlook for all of you, I think we all could use a little Dolphins cheer, but we’re going to have to wait and see how things shake out.
Happy Holidays to all of you!
Enjoy!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Well Stills didn’t throw it to himself
That was ironically Funny
Well that will suck if we get 7 years of mediocrity and then nothing in return for a #9 pick.
Ha! Trade value going up for Tanny….albeit as a receiver!! Lol
Signs of life
Keep Jones ? Or Gase ?? Hmmmmm
Honestly, I’d fire Gase and trade Reshad Jones. He’s a guy that probably has more value for another team than he does here. Make the most of it, trade him for a 3rd or maybe a 4th.
Makes sense to me
RESHAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
niiiice
M13,
Bridgewater playing for NO.
I think NO is getting shut out too.
Yessir… and not looking great. Not bad, but not overwhelming.
I agree with MikeE. Trade Jones for something. Like it or not, we are gonna be rebuilding for the next 2 or 3 years, at least. Jones is probably already on the backside of his career. Get something now, if you can.
SO Not the expected response regarding Jones
MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK HOCKEY INSTEAD, EH?
Rather not LOL. Jets have scored1 goal in 5-6 last games. Still in 1st in west though 😊🏒
I’m keeping Reshad… no ifs, ands, or buts. He’s our very best player on the Defensive side of the ball.
Exactly
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, Son.
Ya build AROUND a Reshad Jones, not trade him away.
NOW MR. SPIKES; That’s NOT the Ross way of doing things. He’d rather trade away the Ajayi’s and Landry’s for the Gesiki’s and ole what’s his name from Missouri, last year’s first round draft choice.
If we were close to being competitive I would agree with you but we are not. By the time we are Jones will be past his prime so let’s get something for him
I most respectfully disagree, Bro.
Just a casual note: I cannot tolerate this pirate woman who’s calling the game. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
I don’t recall her name, but she used to cover Dri Archer’s games. Very annoying.
Beth Mowins is her name.
MY MUTE is on.
Lol at Pirate woman .. she has done Raiders preseason games for years
We’re not close to anything worth keeping Jones. In 3 years, he’ll be in his, what, 12th season? I love the guy, but it makes no sense longterm.
Keepers:
Tunsil
Drake
Howard
Fitzpatrick
Baker
After that it is role players and or what can you get for them
Cam Wake covering a TE?
No sense in that. Fire the DC.
I do t think the roster needs as much change as ya say.. we get back 2/5 of a starting OL next year .. we will have Wilson and wass is name back .. RB looks to be fine either with Gore or Bolden .. we have some quality Players on D, we Also certainly have some spots need filled … as Allen runs for 900 yards lol.. need a new approach on O and D as well as a qb for the future
2nd time I’ve notice Cam Wake in coverage today…
Running outta bodies, Jones and McTyer out now as well
no sense, fire the DC.
Fire them all
If you can get high value for Jones
Go for it
But I doubt you do
I certainly wouldn’t waive him or take anything less than a 4th rounder
He’s worth more than that even if it’s just a couple of years
Was More a case of Gase not playing nice with alphas , and Jones being latest to get in his face .. of the two I would like to keep Jones more
I think Gase is gone the question is who do we keep and build around and who has trade value
I don’t really think Jones is a problem
I think Gase is
But I’m just saying – we don’t need to force out veterans bc we are bringing in a new era
If some one wants to give us a high pick – that’s something
If not just let him finish his career in Miami
He’s been our best defender for years now
Who is 31 with the great position on that TD?
Armstrong ?
Yup, it was Armstrong.
toba,
First, the Wild with a nice win against the Jets yesterday. 🙂
***
For football, we’re gonna be starting over with a, presumably, rookie QB. That more than likely means at least 2 or 3 years of not a lot of wins. Both our offense and defense was not just bad..but really bad…this season. I don’t think our roster is all that close to being a playoff caliber team.
That last series, they had a QB sneak and it got me thinking….Has Tannehill ever done that? Of course it’s probably because we are 3rd and long 99% of the time. Nevermind.
I would only take a high or mid 2nd round pick for Jones. Otherwise I keep him or SS becomes a need in the draft. When he was out a couple games, it was very noticeable.
We have T.J., he’s just out right now. We don’t need a SS.
Cant waive Reshad…it would cost more than keeping him. He is going mowhere
That sack is all on Ryan.
smh
his career as a starter is over … he needs a change of scene, maybe he can have a ryan fitzpatrick type of career from here on out
Keep Jones for what? What difference does he make here? I know keep Jones, Wake, Quinn, be the same shitty, OLD defense. We need to rebuild this team. Start by bringing in more young talent. Trade Jones for a 3rd while he still has some value. You guys are thinking with your hearts, not your heads.
Unfortunate part about Jones is Tannenbaum screwed the pooch on the bonus and restructure bonus to the point where it made it impossible to trade him. The dead money is prohibitive.
Randy: that game last night was very strange.. almost seemed like the pucks were not frozen .. at least the pucks that were on the Jets stix 🙁
Alonzo is an ass. Can we trade him?
M – Build around a 31YO SS? Who does that?
He’ll be close to 32 next season
Costs more to get rid of him….
Not so much Build around him , as opposed to create another immediate need , when we have A very good player already at a position .. let him teach up some of the youngsters for another year
Let the implosion begin….
Refs making sure game don’t end like last years … Kiko head hunting again, deserves ejection
Fuck Robert Quinn.
Trade him too
Toba,
It was also a pretty calm game. Not nearly as many hits and fights as usual.
Agreed Jets almost seemed disinterested
ER – I’d pay $12M in space for a 3rd or 4th RD pick
Because???
Jones is at least a legit NFL starter. You think that pick is gonna see the field?
Jones was a 5th rounder he saw the field as a rookie
Rebuilding is more important, we don’t need cap space, we shouldn’t be active in FA next season.
Did I just see Mills still on the sideline?
Apparently Quinn was too lol
Welp, at least Drake hasn’t thrown a helmet… yet!
Speaking of.. why the hell is he returning KOs today in a meaningless game
ER,
That pick may not even end up being a player. It may be used to package with other picks to move up in the draft….possibly to pick a QB.
Or another WR….LOL
I have absolutely zero doubt that we’re going to see another fight today.
And if/when it happens, that should be the final nail in Adam Gase’s coffin.
ER – Look at Pittsburgh, they’ve been letting older talent walk for decades. Which team is always in the playoffs, us or them?
But it doesnt cost them 12M
But they replenish
And they don’t force (release) players
They just let them walk when they are free agents
Jones isn’t a free agent
Grant is the other WR that is back next year
Well at least Tannehill is over 100?yards in the third quarter
Toba, we have McDonald and Minkah. How many safeties do we need? Don’t you think it’s a bit of a luxury to carry 3 top safeties?
Jones is light years better than McDonald
Agreed but if the opportunity presented itself I would consider trading Jones
This is my thought as well
I agree
But don’t force it
Are we considering TJ as a top safety all of a sudden ?? 🤔😛
I will admit I did not realize Jones is as old as he is .. how old is TJ ??
I do like how Ballage has played lately.
And so I was wrong… Tannehill went over 100 yards passing in the late 3rd quarter. STILL, SMH.
I think Ross blows the whole thing up. Should be alot of happy people around here.
And as usual….we give up running the ball inside the 10.
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1079472155501518848?s=21
Consider trading jones for a respectable Pick MAYBE.. for a 7th rounder because our HC cant get along with him HELL NO
That I agree with. If we can’t get a 3rd or 4th, we may as well keep him, maybe we can trade him before the deadline.
Agree
ER – It’s just cap space man. Like I said, I hope like hell we don’t spend a lot in FA. I guess we disagree, I see you’re still all in for us going somewhere next year, I’m tearing it up and making a run for maybe 2021 or 2022. Draft a mid RD QB in 2019, and then draft another one early in 2020, after a 3-5 win season, and then make a run in 2021 or 2022. I have a vision! lol
I’m always all in for winning….but at least you have a plan! I fly by the seat of my pants!
I guess I’m with ER and Tim that I think we CAN compete next year without having to Do a complete roster reset
Toba – T.J. isn’t as good as Jones, but we can’t get a 3rd RD pick for McDonald. I think McDonald is pretty good, he’ll be even better at SS with Minkah at FS
I just realized it’s the 2nd year in a row players are ejected in the finale
Yep same 2 teams too
You just now realized that? C’mon, Brother! That’s why I feel there’s going to be another fight before it’s all said and done!
I hope some one ends up killing a man with a trident
Mike E
It’s all going to boil down to what happens next week. Who’s gone, who’s brought in and their direction.
I think it will be hard to sell tanking to your new boss but we’ll see.
True dat!
Man I had high hopes three years ago
Can’t shake the feeling that the fat ladies about to sing
Wheels on the bus goes round and round
Damn wheel has been flat for years
I think a lot of us did dcoral. You’re not alone
Reshad getting paid $17M next season. That’s utterly absurd. We’d save $5M by trading him.
Some one has to take on some of that money to make a trade worth it
+do you think we are going to spend that $ elsewhere
I would hate to see a new regime come in here and throw money around In year 1
I don’t think you can do that in the NFL. I know you can in MLB
Piggy – I just mentioned the $17M because everyone is so up in arms with the $12M dead cap hit it would cost us to trade Jones, so I brought up we’ll actually save $5M. lol
Man I wanted Allen
I hate that he is in our division
He’s not good
Running a bunch doesn’t have much staying power
He completing less than 52% of his passes and had more info than tds
Ints not info
The stats will come in time. His ability is off the charts. He is going to be a stud and Buffalo is going to be around a dangerous team for years to come
Like I said, things continue to be VERY chippy out there!
Throw a trident
LOL! 😀
That kid Allen may be a problem down the road
No doubt, dcoral. Many of us wanted to draft him.
Should have left Matt Burke in Minnesota a couple of weeks ago.
Yep. I really think it’s going to be difficult to find someone to replace Adam Gase.
Ken, agreed last year was our time to make a move and he was the guy
I don’t really like Josh Allen as a passer at all. Not upset he’s in our division, not really worried abou t him, I’m worried about what happens with our team.
Compare him to Baker or Darnold and see the difference
Even Rosen co pares favorably
With ya 100%. Not impressed at all.
The threat of the slide is what makes Allen an effective runner. You have to start pulling up when you get close….then he runs right by. Or if you dont he slides last second…..I’d hate to play defense against a running QB…..
At this point I’m just waiting for the MN/CHI game….should be a slobber knocker.
Calm down. Allen looks really good because he’s playing us.
^
There is that lol
I wished for Allen so much last year, he would be perfect in Miami until his rookie contract runs out and they send him to the patriots or some other afc east team instead of pay him for his loyalty here.
but our inept management wanted to give Cutler 10 million, wtf.
Allen looks good because he always was good. But Fins didint want good, they wanted Cutler
Cutler was last year. He had nothing to do with Allen
If cutler is so superior to Allen, lmao I can’t even finish this hypothetical
Bro
Are you sniffing glue during the game?
Cutler and Josh Allen have no connection to one another
Ken
Allen was very inaccurate in college
And accuracy doesn’t really get better in the pros traditionally
That 51 comp % isn’t inconsistent with his career
He may be able to put up better raw stats with a full season
But his accuracy problems are not likely to improve
Accuracy usually doesn’t get better in the pros
He is a playmaker. He reminds me very much of Elway who was also not the most accurate passer but had a tremendous raw talent and ability to make plays. Mark my words Allen is going to be a stud in the NFL.
Elway was over 60% in college
Below 60% in college is a big problem for me
Take a good look right now at Ryan Tannehill. This will be his last game as a Miami Dolphin.
We can only hope. lol
I think Adam Gase just lost his job, too.
If Ross waited until now to make his decision, he’s a bigger idiot than OD thinks he is
Man, we’re so close, we just have to keep Reshad next year. Wake and Quinn too. 😛
FUCK Robert Quinn. 😡
How is Cutler doing today ? Where is he at?
He can never be a franchise QB, he was an ineffective bandaid, Allen is a potential franchise qb
When we signed Cutler Allen was still playing in Wyoming you do realize this?
Yes, we could have drafted him, and should have
Not following any of this….
You aren’t alone
I Would have been happy with any QB last year
I hope Tannenbaum and Gase go, they don’t know a damn thing about evaluating talent or deciding who to keep or cut
David, what the hell are you talking about? Cutler was here last year. Allen was still in college. Are you suggesting that we somehow could have gotten him instead of Cutler?
This is easy, cutler was a colossal waste of money, we would of been better off just drafting a guy like Allen for the followings year and roll with Moore last year.
What’s not to understand here? The FO is inept, and can’t evaluate talent, we’ve seen it with a lot of different players
Agreed
Also a dragon ate my unicorn
If the dragon can evaluate talent better than what we have, bring him in for an interview, lol
Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
Cutler was a Bandaid after RT reinjured his Knee after the 2017 draft.. didn’t see that happening so YES needed a Bandaid at that point.. it was a slow peel off hurt like hell bandaid , but a bandaid we had no other option of. And FTR I hated it then as I have always hated cutler ..
We didn’t draft any QB, knowing that RT was suspect, that’s shortsiged imo.
We brought in an expensive ineffective bandaid, who isn’t here now.
We didn’t draft Josh Allen.
So we ended up with no help last year, and no franchise QB this year either
Last years mistake screwed us for 2 seasons
Signing Cutler didn’t prevent us from drafting Allen deciding not trade up ahead of the Bills is why we didn’t draft Allen
^^ding
FO made numerous mistakes, these are two examples , and they both ensured we don’t have a franchise QB last year or this one either.
Both decisions netted us nothing of value
Piggy:
College stats are poor indicators, especially for QBs for projecting how a prospect will turn out in the pros. There is such a discrepancy between talent levels and systems run in college. The most important thing is physical ability and how it projects at the next level
You can say hithwt abiut yards and tds
But Comp % is very relevant
There is no reason for a player playing at that level to throw such a low com %
We only have spam filters here, stupidity still gets through
Well now these assholes are just fucking with us. Time to start knocking some body out.
What are u guys missing, Cutler was great? We don’t need QB? Allen isn’t good? Go ahead make your points so I can bash the shit out of them, it’s your turn 😎
My point is you shouldn’t bounce anvils off you head
No David I think you said all that needs to be said
Piggy, I told you your dragons chain was too long, and your unicorn was in danger! Ya never listen!
He is a little Pig Headed that way .. bad dum bum
Never trust a hungry dragon with a plump unicorn
I surrender. Yes… it’s time to FIRE Adam Gase.
And I truly believe it’s going to happen.
The end of this season has been an embarrassment.
Just the end?
I want to see Gase sitting on the bench drawing plays just one more time . . .
Lol
I bet he was doodling his name every other time
LMAO!
David, we paid Jay Cutler for one year because Tannehill was injured, yes we still had Moore as a back up but we still needed a QB and the front office apparently felt one that knew the system was the best choice. Was it great? No. Getting a replacement like that rarely is. But paying Cutler 10 million has nothing to do with drafting a QB the FOLLOWING year.
Agreed, as I stated, two mistakes, wasting 2 seasons
Both decisions were wrong imo
It’s not like Miami made one mistake ever, there is a long list, lol
It’s your turn guys, go ahead and debate that Cutler is a franchise QB for us, or we don’t need one, or Allen cant play, or whatever it is that is better than actually bringing a franchise QB in here
I totally agree with you
And can you believe Adam Gase didn’t play Joe Montana?
Go ahead guys
It’s your turn
Tell me that Gase was right in not playing a joe Montana
Lmao huh? Lay off the meth, its bad this time of year
But I figured u had nothing, lol nice try, happy New Years anyway
Gase knew he was gone early. There’s no way he doesn’t pull Tannehill after the 1st quarter and try to save his job. You can say ride or die all day but he knew Tannehill was out and he still decided to go with a very limited QB who was struggling and turning the ball over instead of the limited one who might have at least done something different.
The writing is in the wall
I really don’t think Ross flew all the way from Hawaii to Buffalo just to see the game. He’s firing Gase.
There’s never really a good reason to go to Buffalo
You’re a troll, ya know?
MikeE,
I just figured it out. All that time Gase was sitting on the bench by himself, he wasn’t trying to figure out how to gain more than 150 yards. He was writing his resume.
I think you might just have something there
Well that’s probably a better use of his time than coming up with a draw on 3rd and 11
It’s not media, It’s OD 😊
Lol
If we wanted Allen, we could have easily gotten Jackson who has a chance of being much better than Allen.
I honestly.ty didn’t want to invest in either of those guys
I would have been happy with baker or okay with Rosen
But I wasn’t so fond of the rest of the draft
I didn’t either but there’s lots of fans here. Baker was my man, Haskins is my guy this draft and there’s a few next draft who will be special. Hopefully we get one.
Generally speaking
Even if we don’t like specific guys
It’s inexplicable that they didn’t draft a guy mid rounds in either of the last couple of drafts
Many of y’all continue to follow the mainstream media narrative. Once Big Ben calls it quits, it will be Mason Rudolph time. And unlike all of these other rookie QBs, Rudolph will have the benefit of sitting and learning behind Big Ben… much like Aaron Rodgers sitting behind Brett Favre.
I liked Rudolph in college
But we will see how he does in the pros
That Pitt offense has really been tailored to Big Ben
And those 2 qbs have much different skills
Pittsburgh is a much better franchise than Miami with more capable people in charge.
They draft, develop, and keep talent excellent, we don’t
We made the Cutler mistake because we didn’t draft QB years before that.
We do this every year since we drafted the wide receiver from the state of Texas to be our franchise QB. We compound mistakes by adding to them instead of fixing them.
We don’t need bandaids, we need players that are part of the plan.
This is why Dolphins suck, we have no on field leader, and leadership in FO is lacking too
Changes are coming, but here’s hoping we make wise ones for a change!
New Age,
We should have taken a QB one way or another. This FO set us back a year by not taking one.
^^^
BOOM, and we should have drafted Mason Rudolph in the 3rd round.
I agree. There’s no future progress if you take take an option. Baker was my favorite but if I had to go with a QB, it would have been trading back and taking Jackson. Guy has so much talent and we could have rode it for a few years of playoff eligibility until we found better.
Did Ross arrive via helicopter?
Flying pig, is he heavy? Lol
Well, we moved up 2 spots from #15 to #13. Now just need Cincy and Denver to win to get to #11 for our new GM.
I didn’t realize we can get as high as 11
That’s not a bad place to draft from
true. if Haskins does declare it will be easier to move up but, even if not, we have a shot at a blue chip defender; especially a DT like Simmons who’s going to eat in the middle.
Plus, the higher position in rd 2 that also gives us a better ability to trade back into the end of rd 1.