It’s still one game in 17, and at 6-3 the Dolphins are far from being out of contention. However, one needs to accurately put in context exactly what we are in contention for. To win the division, sure, its definitely possible, likely even if the Bills lose tonight against the Bengals. Winning the division is nice, but we have tried to assemble a team with a very small window of opportunity to go all the way. As currently constituted, that won’t happen. At least I should say “shouldn’t happen”, because we haven’t defeated a good team with a winning record since September of ’22.
We got back Jalen Ramsey, Xavien Howard, Jaelan Phillips, Bradley Chubb and Andrew Van Ginkel are all healthy now and playing well, yet we still can’t close out a good team. The offense was more of an issue, and if I’m being honest, why was Raheem Mostert used so sparingly in this game until it was almost too late? Besides De’Von Achane, Mostert is our best RB, our most consistent guy. I know he’s a little banged up, but Ahmed and Wilson just don’t threaten the defense like Mostert does. He looked pretty darn fresh in the 4th quarter, I wish we didn’t save him until then because we squandered too many drives without him. Penalties have been a killer as well, and we escaped a penalty today that should have been called against AVG. It’s not that AVG was looking to hurt Mahomes, he actually turned away and hit him with his back, but the fact is, Mahomes was out of bounds when AVG ran into him and that’s a penalty.
I don’t want to hear the excuse that we had 2 OL out. Every team has subs somewhere, and the O-line was making plenty of room for Mostert in the 4th quarter. Tua had a subpar performance for him. Tyreek Hill dropped a big pass, but Tua with the game on the line let a pass slip out of hand and mishandled a snap, one which did not look egregiously off target. He said it himself, you can’t end a game for your team on a play like that. Another observation is we’ve had a few slow starts. Those of you that attended the Fest game know we were behind 14-0 after the 1st quarter. We scored 3 points against the Eagles in the 1st quarter. We scored 7 against the Patriots, and were shutout the entire first half against the Chiefs. If we’re going to defer, we need to do a better job in the first half because the really good teams put their foot on your neck and don’t let you back in the game.
What can I say, the narrative that we can’t beat the good teams will continue to exist as long as it’s true and accurate, and right now it’s 100% accurate. We look like a different team against the better teams, we’re tight, and we get shut down on offense, and sometimes it’s the defense that looks disinterested. Today, the defense did its best, but the offense was the weak unit that didn’t hold up their end of the bargain. It’s great to be the #1 ranked offense in the NFL, but it sucks when you can’t back it up against better competition. Who cares if we can score 70 against the Broncos when we can only score 14 against the Chiefs?
We have the BYE week next week. Last week we lost OG Isaiah Wynn for the rest of the season, and it’s likely the same fate waits for OG Robert Jones, who ironically just filled in for Isaiah Wynn after coming off this week. Hopefully, after 2 weeks of rest, RG Robert Hunt will be back, and be healthy for the rest of the season. Lester Cotton, who played RG today will probably slide to LG as long as Hunt as healthy. RB De’Von Achane should make his return in Week 11 at home against the Las Vegas Raiders. He will undoubtedly give the offense a huge boost, and when we split carries between the two backs, Mostert and Achane both really thrive. It doesn’t leave that vacuum every time Mostert comes off the field.
Listen, it sucks, if you have friends that are NFL fans like I do, you know they’re getting a hearty laugh at our team, and rightfully so. We have yet to look anything like a team to fear when the opponent has been top level. 48-20 loss to the Bills, 31-17 loss to the Eagles and now a 21-14 loss to the Chiefs. Just remember, the #1 scoring offense in the NFL at a whopping 33.9PPG, practically 34 points per game has scored 17PPG against winning teams. Forget the defense which on occasion has not played well, but the high flying offense seems to wither when challenged, and our young HC Mike McDaniel needs to find a way to stop that from occurring. That won’t be an easy fix, but it has to happen if we’re going to ascend to a playoff winning team. I think our defense is going to be good going forward, but the offense has to be as effective against the good teams as they are against the weaker ones. I needed to vent this, spew it out of my system, it’s cathartic.
GO DOLPHINS!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
It is not a meaningless stat when it affects your playoff ranking. It is why we are #4 of the 4 division leaders. If we were not the division leader, we would be the 7th wildcard wild card team behind the Steelers and Browns.
Yes, we can only play who is on our schedule. We played 3 good teams and couldn’t beat any of them. That is part of the reason why our SOV sucks and why we won’t win any tiebreakers.
On the page turn no less. LOL
I said almost meaningless. This is the one area where it has some impact. But all this other stuff about not having confidence against better teams is being over hyped imo
And the other thing is that it is really something you have no control over. So I tend not to worry about it and not read too much into
Well we won’t be fixing it in the next 5 weeks , but I am sure we will be hearing it..
Vegas
Jets
Washington
Titans
Jets
Then Dallas
Good to see ya on board Doggie.. was thinking I May have to send the Pound to look for ya …
If we were not the division leader, we would be the 7th wildcard wild card team behind the Steelers and Browns. <<< wow I had no clue . That is not flattering
You sure about that?
😂 the prescription medicine Veozah is used to treat hot flashes, and one of the common side effects of the medicine is hot flashes 🤣🤣
That way you will take it twice 🤷♂️ , more profitable 🤡
yes!
Fuck yeah
Stupid play call
Thank you Raiders. Great Sunday for us
Thank you Raiders
whew!
one more to go.
GOOOOO BRONCOS!
Back in Florida, after an Africanless(war)/Canary Island cruise, missed the Germany game
Think we just need to get healthy, hardest games behind us
Glad you are back.
Speaking of back. Hope Krishna is ok. Don’t think I have seen him post since went off grid in the Peruvian jungle.
Thanks
Ken says:
November 12, 2023 at 9:16 pm
And the other thing is that it is really something you have no control over. So I tend not to worry about it and not read too much into
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Yeah, I agree and didn’t realize you said almost. lol
I guess I harp on “we haven’t beat anybody”, but as long as we keep beating who we are supposed to beat and get into the playoffs as a division champ I think we can beat anybody. Especially if our D stays healthy the way it is and we get some OL back in Hunt, Jones and hopefully Wynn.
The AFC seeding thing is another reason why we need to beat good teams. Jaguars jump ahead of us because of they beat good teams, we don’t. Y’all can keep saying it doesn’t mean anything, but it does in more ways than one. You want to beat some good teams during the season so when you play good teams in the playoffs, you feel confident that you belong. Trust me, if we lose to every good team and still make the playoffs, we’ll be an early exit.
Beating the good teams doesn’t matter. It is strength of schedule that matters. We don’t control and you won’t know how that plays out until week 17. SOS now maybe very different from how it looks in week 17
They changed it this year. SOV is ahead of SOS.
The games we lost were all on the road, with 2 of the 3 injury ridden, including the Philly odd 10-0 penalty game
We’ll beat the Eagles in a neutral site SB
The remaing 8 mostly at home and we should be favored in all 8
We won’t be favored in Baltimore, but should be favored in every other game.
I agree. Teams can and do get better over the course of a season. Our defense this year is a great example of that.
Ultimately, win the division … guarantees a home game in playoffs and take it from there. I will be cheering against other teams to help our potential seeding, but winning the division is a must for this team to be considered moving on to the next level.
New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who tore his Achilles in Week 1, told NBC’s Melissa Stark his goal is to return in mid-December.
They will be out of contention by then. He will not see the field this season
Ain’t happening. Their season is over and it makes no sense to risk further injury by bringing him back too soon.
Here you go BBM – you got your guy!
wow more speed … and he’s played in the league right?
I guess he’s insurance in case Waddle gets hurt for real.
The season is only half over,
although it feels like it’s later in the year
with all that’s happened so far.
Dolphins didn’t play, but we got just about everything else we could have wanted yesterday … Bengals, Ravens, Jets all lose. C’mon DENVER tonight!
Can you imagine being a Panthers fan, after giving up all those picks (including this year’s first round when they are likely to be a top 3 pick) only to see CJ Stroud enroute to ROY while Bryce Young struggles. No matter how our team screws up at times, at least we got our QB. lol.
Not that it is apples for apples, but we had Burrow and Herbert that “broke out” while we were waiting on Tua.
or waiting for Flores to flame out
While we passed on Herbert, we didn’t have the opportunity to pick Burrow (Cincy was not trading that pick for anything).
major reason why some fans are still Tua haters
– Kong (from the last page) – 5 game-winning FGs as time expired to seal a win – an NFL record!
– Herd from earlier ref “Country Roads” – apparently it has been going at Festivals/group-gatherings in Germany since at least the late 90s according to one fella on Twitter from the US presumably serving in the military there. We have adopted “Sweet Caroline” in the UK. Is this the way to Amarillo also v popular in the context of charities.
– BBM ref Germans asking for a refund – I think you need to be a fan of an NFL team in a foreign country to fully understand why this would never happen. I’m lucky as I was able to make quite a few business trips and games in the US, but for reasons of expense (and jet lag), believe me, a game in UK//Germany is an absolute privilege, even if it was absolute shite. Let me just add, also, the Patriots were absolutely shite and Mac Jones will never recover from this!
I flew back from an exhibition in Germany to Wembey in 2007 for the first reg. season game outside NFL and it was the Fins Giants in an absolute slop fest. The pitch didn’t drain, a punt plugged like a javelin and the ball was a bar of soap with fumbles and miscues everywhere. We lost 16-10. Still loved it. There was a giant inflatable JT in London. Happy days
I figured it had to be in the realm of a record. It seemed like one after another was ending on a game winner.
Extended highlights of that game shot in ultra-low definition from a tv!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sca_esv=581933055&cs=0&sxsrf=AM9HkKlmzKO41klIDavuVtK_h-O-H2OH4A:1699888487550&q=Giants+vs+Dolphins+2007&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0qdCLosGCAxUfSUEAHTB4BocQpboHegQIAhAA&biw=1528&bih=838&dpr=2.5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:1e88f792,vid:TigsvpMOqn0,st:0
https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MjAyMTg1MDgwNTMyMTE2NTQ4/screen-shot-2023-11-13-at-84145-am.webp
It sucks that our SOV is so low that non-division leaders would be ahead of us (and will be if we slip at all in the division!)
I agree Jets may be out of contention by mid December and Rodgers/Jets won’t risk it.
Jets should get another loss this weekend as they are at the Bills in a revenge game for the Bills.
on the one hand, I think if the jest had beaten the Raiders, it might have given them hope to get ARod back and make a run for it.
But then again, losing on yet another stupid INT by Zach might make the NY FO think he’s hopeless, and they need to switch to Rodgers to salvage something of fan interest and build for next year.
I prefer our SOV dilemma to their QB debacle all day.
The Bills are really fighting for their playoff lives. A loss tonight or next week against the Jest would be completely devastating for them. The rest of their schedule is brutal
After the Broncos and Jest they have:
At Philly
At KC
Cowboys
At Chargers
Patriots
At Dolphins
Looking forward to seeing the “you. Ant be good teams” crowd take on the chiefs and eagles on the road back to back
It’s nice to know that of the teams on that list (that are not Dolphins) we have completed ALL of those games except Cowboys … 3-2 record.
If he idea of Rogers returning this year seems pretty ridiculous
The jests have given up the 3rd most sacks this season
He got hit every time he dropped back in the 3 plays he played this year
Do we want the Bills to win to permanently shut the door on the Jets/Rodgers?
I’d rather give the Bills another loss.
That way they might not even be in our way in the playoffs.
Similar to Cincy. They’re so dangerous that I’d rather
the Browns and Steelers make the wild cards.
and maybe Houston
I think, just based on the division record alone, you have to root against the bills
Getting swept by the jests pretty much kills any shot they have to win afc east, especially if we sweep the jests
That would be very entertaining
haha
I don’t know.
If the Bills win,
they’d basically eliminate the jets from using Rodgers to beat us
and then with that remaining schedule, the Bills would have
a very hard time making it to the PO as well,
so we’d be rid of both of them.
Ahhh it’s so nice to have much better options than Buffalo or NYJ.
And the PATRIOTS suck!!
Weeeeeeeeeeeee
Aaron Rodgers talking about playing this year = “give them hope so they won’t notice how much they are still paying you!” lol
Good point, lol
It’s not a bad thing to root for other teams to beat the teams we can’t, but I honestly long for the days when we can do it ourselves.
Patience Mike. Not promising that day will come, and I know the collective fanbase is stretched to breaking point in this regard, but it might not be sooooo far away. Then again it might be too.
Funny we have had this big back and forth over sacks vs hits vs pressures when we are tied with the Bills for 7th in the NFL in sacks per game (3.2). Also, we are tied with the Bills for 5th in the NFL in team sack % on pass plays (8.84%).
We’ve improved in sacks for sure Mike. If/when Phillips really gets going, this defense could be fierce.
Mike E
I’ll always root for whoever is playing the
Ravens Bills Steelers Jets Pats Colts Bengals Texans and Broncs
no matter what the records are.
Of course, just lamenting how we can’t get the job done ourselves. Once we get Robert Hunt back, and De’Von Achane is back healthy, that’s our best team going forward. No excuses, we should win with that lineup. Don’t you agree?
100%
Anyone going to watch this on NETFLIX next month?
I was unaware of this thing before you posted, but now that I have watched the trailer? I am in! Look really good.
Miami Dolphins
2023 · 6-3-0
INJURIES
RB De’Von Achane (knee) will have his practice window opened and will return to practice Monday, head coach Mike McDaniel told reporters.
OL Robert Hunt (hamstring) is week to week, per McDaniel.
OL Robert Jones (knee) is week to week, per McDaniel.
SIGNINGS
WR Anthony Schwartz signed to practice squad
ROSTER CUTS
WR Raleigh Webb (from practice squad)
Hey about us having a rough tie breaker thing … how would you like to be the Patriots? They have such a strong SoV Or SoS that even though they’re close to getting a good draft pick they lose the tiebreaker to all the other teams down there.and get the worst pick of the bad teams.
First tie breaker for seeding is W/L record, yes? SOV, SOS and all the rest of the bullshit stats are irrelevant if you have the better record.
They are VERY relevant because of how tight the AFC is running this year. There are 11 teams with 5 wins or more. (one game out)
The ENTIRE AFC has a better strength of victory than us. WE ARE LAST.
SOV is the first tiebreaker after conference win percentage.
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory in all games.
6. Strength of schedule in all games
Phelon, the way things stand right now. ONE LOSS can cost us the playoffs
It is NOT irrelevant.
I’m with Phel on this one.
SoS is the 6th tie breaker?
When was the last time the 6th tie breaker
was actually used?
Is it common?
Besides, we are barely halfway through the season.
The records will space out as the numbers expand.
I gotta find my vintage Sammy Winder jersey for tonight’s game
I can only find one SoV tie breaker use in NFL going back to 2000.
2006 Giants over Packers.
It’s hard to find though, so there might be another one.
This tie breaking procedure is relatively new.
In my childhood
I think they actually had a one-game play-in game to settle ties.
(Before the merger)
Well, they just changed the rule this year so you won’t find it going back to any year before this year. It used to be way down the list now it’s the first after positioning right after conference wins.
When was the last time the 6th tie breaker
was actually used?
Is it common?
For non-division winners, very very common. Almost every year. The wild cards always go to the fifth and sixth tiebreakers. The first three “tiebreakers” are just positioning.
not sure what you mean by “positioning”
but in 2022
Zero
tiebreakers went past the
1st step
which is Head to Head
as the Seahawks (9-8) beat out the Lions (9-8) for a wild card
because they beat them in the regular season and
the Dolphins (9-8) beat out the 9-8 Steelers
because we beat them in the regular season.
In 2021 there was only 1 tie among teams to get into the playoffs,
and it was also broken by the first tie-breaker (head to head)
because Philly (9-8) had beaten NO (9-8) during the season.
In 2020 all three ties were for seeding not to make the playoffs,
and all three were broken at the lowest by the second tie-breaker
which is division record.
In 2019 there were NO ties to get into the playoffs,
but 3 teams in the NFC finished 13-3,
and those ties were just for seeding and also broken by the first 2 tie-breakers.
Get’em Naples!
Let’s have all the seeding scenarios in our favor, and then none of them will matter. Let’s start beating some good teams and build our team confidence.
We’re coming out of the bye as healthy as we’ve been all year and have a much stronger and deeper team. Let’s hope that’s the difference to make a big run.
You would think we are not in first place
I’m enjoying the season.🙂
We’re in first place because all of a sudden everyone in our division sucks, unless the Bills get back on track tonight. I want our team to be feared, I want to look like the best team in the AFC, not just make the playoffs. I’m glad we’re in 1st, but that won’t mean an awful lot if we continue to struggle against good teams.
Now the debate this year is are we good enough? As opposed to years past where the debate was are we good? Progress
^
Mike is like many Dolfans. He suffers from Imposter Syndrome…he can’t feel like Miami is successful, despite their success.🤣🤣
Dolphins open as 10 point favorites over the Raidaahs…
Ken – you seem to think it’s a 10 year plan. We have a small window with the horses we have now. We could regress next season if we can’t re-sign Wilkins, and some other players. Is it wrong to want to be great? Fuck that!! Every year there are teams that just stampede the league, I want to be that team. Who knows what happens next season?
It is both a win now and a 10 year plan. Every team faces expiring contracts and salary cap issues. We are still a young team. We are not the Rams of a couple of years ago that had a window of exactly that year.
I want both win now and sustainable winning. I want a dynasty. I see no reason why it can’t be
I feel the same way as Ken. This is the best looking team we’ve had in a long time. Let’s all enjoy the ride.🙂
SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE FUCK UP!
😆😎
LOL
OH MY
Int Broncos 😃
Ah! 3-0 Broncos as I turn the game on!
Justin Simmons!!!
Bills
Two drives Two TO
NICE!!!
The Bills lost some players and it’s starting to show.
Injuries really derailed them.
This is starting to piss me off!
Is anyone else having to hit refresh after hitting post to make the page refresh / Post? (the refresh button in the search bar)
Yes
Also pissed off.
Yes
So if we beat the shit out of the team that beat the shit out of the team that beat us, does that make Mike Greenberg a fraud?
Bull fucking shit that is!
Friendly reminder: Russell Wilson has the 5th best passer rating in the NFL this season. He does NOT suck this year.
This is where statistics can be deceiving. He pretty much sucks this year. But I am fan tonight
His O-Line is terrible this year.
Yes, I’m a fan tonight as well.
True that his OL is terrible
well, if the other team scores more points
Yes I am experiencing the refresh lag as well
^
Denver D came to play ‘night!!!
And again!!!
Both offenses are stagnant tonight
Aren’t Buffalo fans awesome? Booing their team already.
But you see, MIAMI put up 70 on them WE should put up 100
Bwaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaa
LOL
That is a TD and that was a vintage RW play
That is the quintessential toe tap catch. FN TD BABY
Looks like a TD to me too, y’all!
That was the catch of the year so far.
HA missed
Doink
Doesn’t even get back to the 20 LOL This game is great so far.
I feel a “Press Fumble” coming on. Butter fingers butter fingers
Not good all of a sudden…
It will be a tall order if Denver could win this game
LET’S GO! FUCK THAT HO FROM BUFFALO! LET’S GO LET’S GO!!
Rock is hitting the homeraide tonight
Press TO Press TO come one Big Choke Press TO
WOOOOOHOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!
Fuck yeah!
Haha!🤪
THE BIG CHOKE
HE
IS
CRYING
That was beautiful special teams work there!!! SUPERIOR
Mike Westof oh wait a minute
Nice!
Outstanding game planning thus far by Denver!
Love him or hate him that is a strength of Payton
They get the ball coming out in the third. Hope the boobirds go home early because they were a factor early when they were happy. 12th man is playing for the wrong team in NWNY
I wonder if they had to use the throwing ball on that FG? I am guessing so. Not sure how much that actually matters, but it must or they wouldn’t have different balls
Ken says:
November 13, 2023 at 9:30 pm
It will be a tall order if Denver could win this game
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But what if Russ cooks as a short-order chef? LOL 😉
Sorry, bad joke!
*beep beep, Ritchie*!
Boo 😒 🤪
Woo Hoo !
Fuck
ery
I believe it is pronounced “Fuckery”
The Broncos’ Defense is going to have to win this game. Either shut the Bills out from here on out, or Russ is going to have to miracle his way over this obstacle.
I wish they would ring his bell when he does that.
RING MY BELLLLELLLLELLLLL RING MY BELL
Anita Ward
Fuckery
That is horrible by Wilson
Personally, I want the Broncos to win this game BADLY. See, if the Bills lose tonight, I think we can stick a fork in them. They still must run through the gauntlet of Super Bowl teams (Chefs* and Eaglets)… which we’ve already done.
Come on Denver let’s go!
Wilson looks like 💩
Tonight, Russ really looks like half the man he used to be… minus his lone TD pass.
His skills are diminished
Good field position again for the Broncos. They have to do something with it
Holy fuck Batman a 3rd down conversion