24 years now Dolphins fans, T-W-E-N-T-Y * F-O-U-R * Y-E-A-R-S !! That’s how long it will shortly be that the Miami Dolphins haven’t won a playoff game. This year, the touted Super Bowl bound Miami Dolphins will fail to make the playoffs altogether. I know I’m guilty of doing this all to often, and I apologize in advance for telling people how to “fan”, or how to root for their team. It’s wrong, and many times I can only value my own wretched point of view while castigating others for theirs. Again, I’m sorry. You know who you are, but you also know who I am, so today I’m as per usghe, just presenting my view, so you can just skip it if offends you in any way.
I don’t like the NY Jets, although I don’t despise them as much as many people on this forum do. When the Jets are playing even worse than us, which is really saying something, I hate them even less. Do you know what I hate more? I hate our own team and organization’s ineptitude and failures 100X more than any hate I can muster against the NY Jets, it’s not even close. Not a political statement, but in this past election on November 5, America voted for change. That’s exactly where I’m at right now. I’m voting for change, despite the fact that I hold no vote to do so, so I use my proxy here on this blog. In order to enact change, or at least have the hope to do so, we need failure here in Miami. This season is toast, we’re not a playoff team and our record will say so at the end of the season as well. I’m not talking “tanking” here, we’re more than capable of losing without trying to.
If you haven’t figured it out yet, I want the Dolphins to lose this Sunday. Not just lose, I want embarrassment. I want this grounded NY Jets offense to fly high and I want this Dolphins offense to make believe it’s 30 degrees or colder or that we’re actually playing a playoff caliber NFL team and this game actually matters. Tua can throw for 400 yards and have a completion percentage of 80% as long as he doesn’t throw a TD, because some people enjoy that. Again, my remorse for telling you how to “fan”. I feel like a good old fashioned ass whooping by the visiting NY Jets would be a good wake up call to Steve Ross that this team simply cannot stay on the same path next season and beyond. The Aaron Rodgers led Jets just can’t take flight, and are averaging a paltry 18.8 PPG, good for 26th in the NFL. This, in lieu of having what is a top 3 NFL running back in Breece Hall. Hey, guess what team is remarkably close in both categories, points scored and points allowed? Right! Good guess! Yes, our Dolphins are scoring 19.2 PPG, good for 24th, and the Jets are 15th in the NFL on defense allowing 268 points or 22.3 PPG, while our Dolphins have allowed 266 points good for 14th in the NFL.
My plan is not about improving our draft position, no it’s far more than that. That would be a nice by product of losing, but again, this is about change. There are quite a few of us here on FMU who believe that Chris Grier can’t be the one shopping for the groceries any longer, and probably an equal amount of us feel HC Mike McDaniel is out of his league as an NFL Head Coach. His novel approach of befriending all the players has worn thin, and when it comes down to X’s and O’s, he’s failed miserably there too, especially when playing against better teams. We look woefully unprepared, and this roster is not physical enough anywhere, not anywhere on offense or defense are we able to match up against a physical team. Like I said, getting walloped by our division rival who come in at 3-9 would be a real good start to have the word change floating around in Dolphins owner Stephen Ross’s head. He’s been patient, but if this team finished under .500, after assembling a roster he was sold as being a team built to go to the Super Bowl, his patience may diminish enough to go ahead and enact said change.
I literally sit at my computer right now and cringe at the thought that Chris Grier and Mike McDaniel might be the duo crafting our 2025 draft, with10 picks, our own 1st and 2nd RD picks, potentially two 3rd RD compensatory picks, (we traded our own 3rd RD pick to draft RB Jaylen Wright to PHI), our own 4th RD pick, two 5th RD picks, our own, and a pick from DEN in the Bradley Chubb trade, Zero 6th RD pick (Traded to CHI for WR Chase Claypool), and finally, three 7th RD picks, our own, a compensatory pick for S DeShon Elliot and then (7th RD pick from the Chase Claypool trade). 10 very, very important picks, especially considering how many expired 1 year contracts we’ll have, and how awful this roster was constructed in general.
Let’s start with this mind numbing fact. Over $90M of our cap space for next season will be used by QB Tua Tagovailoa, WR Tyreek Hill, and WR Jaylen Waddle. Our amazing WR duo has contributed in this 2024 season 100 combined receptions for 1255 yards and 6 TD’s, and that’s with QB Tua Tagovailoa playing in 8 games. We’re paying in insane amount of money on 3 players which precludes us from spending on talent elsewhere on the roster. I don’t care how you “fan”, you can see that our QB needs a significant amount of talent to be successful, meaning we need a better O-line, and we’re going to need a much better defense as well, but how on earth can we accomplish this with the same two knuckleheads in charge of buying and scouting the groceries. Quick example before my next point. We trade our 2025 3rd RD pick to move into the 4th RD to get RB Jaylen Wright. In 12 games, Wright has 59 carries for 243 yards, zero TD’s. This reeks of “Mikey Tradey Pants Tannenbaum”. It’s not like we haven’t had injuries either. RB Raheem Mostert has been banged up and missed a couple of games and only has 7 more carries than Wright. De’Von Achane is logging in some workhorse RB numbers, while Wright and his 4th RD pick as well as next year’s 3rd RD pick languish on the bench. Achane has been overused, and Wright has been utterly under utilized.
I think the luster of Head Coach Mike McDaniel has worn off. I know this going to irk some here, apologies once again. He’s a Tua cheerleader. The problem is, he’s not a Miami Dolphins cheerleader. He’s done whatever he could to make Tua the best QB he can be. This dink and dunk offense we’re running now is a stark contrast to the high flying offense we ran last season. To be fair, that high flying offense didn’t play well against the better teams, and I think the dink and offense travels better and also keeps the QB out of harms way better too. We have struggled immensely though scoring TD’s, and part of that, no doubt, is the absence of those deep plays. Long drives keep the defense off the field and eat clock, but you have to get into the endzone. Offensive guard play has been an issue here with essentially 2 backups starting, Robert Jones at LG and Liam Eichenberg at RG. Losing RT Austin Jackson hurt as well, especially in the run game. RT Kendall Lamm may actually be equal or better in pass protection, but Jackson was a better run blocker, and we’ve struggled with him out. LG Isaiah Wynn is off IR and has been practicing, but word from MM is Robert Jones will remain the starter. OLB Bradley Chubb is off the PUP and his 21 day practice window is open. Whether either of these players will see any playing time remains to be seen.
I count 35 players under contract for ’25, but there are at least 8 that probably won’t play a game for us next season. LT Terron Armstead, CB Cam Smith, LB Channing Tindall, QB Skylar Thompson, TE Tanner Conner, TE Julian Hill, WR Tahj Washington, DE Grayson Murphy and WR Odell Beckham. Then there are the players who you simply can’t count on making it through any number of games, like OLB Jaelan Phillips, OLB Bradley Chubb, 33 year old RB Raheem Mostert, and of course, QB Tua Tagovailoa. So we lets say we have about 27-30 players assuming I’m wrong about a few, and then you have 3 players who are consistently injured, that means the majority of the roster will be new and counted on heavily next season. I feel it’s unacceptable to go forward with Grier and McDaniel and allow them to shape the majority of this roster, unconscionable actually. Drafting has not been Grier’s strong suit, and he’s overpaid heavily in the wrong areas of the roster. Find me one team that’s legitimately competing to get into the Superbowl that has two WR’s eating the 2 of the top 5 spots against the cap? What I can find very easily for you though is teams that doled out mega money contracts to their QB’s and regret it. NY Jets (Aaron Rodgers), Cleveland Browns (Deshaun Watson), Jacksonville Jaguars (Trevor Lawrence), Denver Broncos (Russell Wilson), Dallas Cowboys (Dak Prescott), NY Giants (Daniel Jones), and Atlanta Falcons (Kirk Cousins).
Again, not telling you how to “fan”, but I don’t want to root for a QB who accumulates wonderful statistics such as completion percentage and yardage totals. Those statistics on their own merit don’t win you football games. You have to score points, and we did score over 30 points per game against the weaker competition just like we did last year as well, but turn up the level of competition, and precisely like last season, same result. You look solely at the stat line, you’d think Tua had a magnificent game. 37-46, 365 yards, 2 TD’s. In reality though, we had 3 points through 13 minutes into the 3rd Quarter, and we when we scored our first TD, the score was already 27-3 with about 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. On the long drive where we settled for 3 down 14-0, that was the time to score a TD and keep the team in the game. Tua actually played his best with the game out of reach at 30-8, and the TD we cored there was a very lucky tipped pass that ended up in the hands of WR Tyreek Hill in the endzone. The stats are so extremely misleading, and I take no solace, zero, in the fact that Tua may finish with the highest completion percentage ever by a QB in the NFL if he qualifies after missing 4 games. IDGAF!!!!! Just get me wins! Dak Prescott, the NFC’s version of Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa has some wonderful stats on his resume, over 31,000 yards passing, nearly a 3:1 TD:INT ratio (213-82), a career 66.8% completion percentage. (Tua is at 68%), but Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys can’t win big games either. In playoff games, Dak is 2-5, and his TD:INT ratio drops to a still pretty good 2:1. Tua just hasn’t won big games later in the season and mostly against better competition. These are facts, and are not debatable, his record is abysmal.
If we’re going to march forward with QB Tua Tagovailoa at the helm, then we’re going to have to significantly improve the talent level here, fortify the trenches on both sides of the ball. This is going to be a nearly impossible task with us having no cap space, and far too many roster spots to fill. Beating the NY Jets this Sunday may bring joy to some, but to others like myself, misery. It will make Stephen Ross smile if we whoop on the hapless jets while it won’t mean a damn thing for our season, or the future of our team. A loss would be much preferred to get the wheels in motion that the status quo is a failure, just as country decided the very same with current regime in power from 2020-2024. They simply couldn’t tolerate 4 more years of the same, and I can’t tolerate on more extremely important year due to the current state of our roster with so few players under contract. This isn’t a roster fill in year, no, this practically an entire roster overhaul, and I don’t want to watch GM Chris Grier and HC Mike McDaniel continue to f*ck it up!
GO DOLPHINS!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Anyone think we’re better with Phillips and Chubb? Playing GM is not always easy.
True, but not having a real back up QB is an issue
That’s the biggest mistake we made.
Tim,
Speak for yourself! I’ve been playing GM for 40 years, and I’ve nailed it! 😜
I believe the Fins win out. I am going to enjoy each game along the way, regardless of the outcome.
that’s out there even for Tim
me oinking too
BTW. How many teams in the playoff hunt lost their QB for 4 games?
most good teams have QBs, that stay on the field
Use that term very loosely. We’re a sneeze away from being eliminated at 6-7. We didn’t have to lose all 4 games, really not even compete because our HC and GM were in lockstep that Skylar Thompson was an adequate backup. Shame on both of them knowing how fragile Tua is especially. You’re a tolerant fan, I’m no longer tolerant. I also spend a lot more time looking at our team, our stats, how they compare to other teams. Even some announcers are enamored with Tua’s completion percentage but that doesn’t win games. We relied heavily on our kicker much like when we beat the Cowboys last year. Sanders misses one of the either 57 or 52 yards and we’re done, OT never happens. The Jets barely have a pulse, have lost a handful of games like today and were 3-9 for a reason. Enjoy the win, don’t let me rain on your parade
on a kick return today, there were offsetting fouls, they showed MM and he had an oh ok look on his face
earlier in the year we kicked off from the 50, he had Sanders kick it deep, instead of OB, where the penalty is you spot the ball 25 yards from the kick, so 25 yard line is where it would’ve been spotted
MM doesn’t know the rules
If MM knew the rules, we’d have a different ST coach.
Bills gifted 3 tds today, still losing by 17, if the extra pt is good
38-35. Our defense played better against the Rams, but our offense was meh against the Rams
Even when Tua is injured and out for extended time the whole team looks dreadful. This team is held together by scotch tape like a Biden economy. This is what happens when you’re constantly in win now mode and you’re throwing around draft picks and spending big on free agents with injury histories.
i have no clue what Biden has to do with this team, but carry on with dumb shit…lmao
Not having Bradley Chubb (along with losing Phillips as Tim said) has really hurt our Defense
but Chubb practiced all week
so hopefully he can play for the final 4 games
We won today it was Tua’s fault
Technically true which is the best kind of true.
😆
Hunter Long scored a TD today
Another Grier gem
his first NFL TD
After we drafted that piece of shit I watched his game tape and said he sucks, lots of drops
someone on here, who i won’t mention, disagreed, saying his stats were very good, therefore he’s a good pick
two Bull shit PI calls on the Rams
Holy fuck – 44-42.
Hey we beat another winning team. The Rams are now 7-6 after beating the Bills
It’s Tua’s fault, though…
🤣
Biden (0bama) just sent another (close to) $1B dollars to Ukraine, right before he leaves office.
It’s Tua’s fault.
Bill Belicheat* may become the next HC of North Carolina!
It’s Tua’s fault.
The highly anticipated ‘Great Earthquake’ in California is going to happen sooner, rather than later…
It’s Tua’s FAULT, then…
See what I did there… 😆
It’s not the San Andreas Fault, it’s the TUA Fault!
Funny thing about the Rams game is that our defense won that game
Are you certain? Last time I checked, a TEAM wins a game… not the QB. You’re undermining your wish for Grier to be replaced, my friend.
How many times did I read here that Tua won the game today?
mf13ss and Hulk have brain fart…it’s Tua’s fault…lol
I’ll talk to all of you Tua ball lickers when we play a better team and we still have a shot at a playoff spot and Tua plays well enough and beats that team. As for beating the Jets, he barely accomplished that, it should have been a lot easier and Sanders bailed him out
But if it wasn’t for Tua’s play between the 20s, Sanders would have had to kick 80 yard FGs.
Like 57 and 52 are chip shots. C’mon
Tua won a game, stepped up even..
against the Jets…fucking wow…lmao
Aaron Rodgers stated after today’s Miami Dolphins vs New York Jets game that he does not intend to play for the Jets next season. And, in all likelihood, he will not be finishing the season out as the Jets signal caller.
Not surprising, he looked like all the world like he didn’t want to finish the game today
Tua won the game…balled out in OT when he finally found Jonnu…
I might argue Jonnu won the game after he was finally targeted…maybe…lol
Derrick Carr pulled a Tua and led with his head and ending his season
Mike E.
says:
December 8, 2024 at 8:06 pm
Like 57 and 52 are chip shots. C’mon
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Agreed! So why is Achane averaging nearly 2 yards per carry this season? It’s the O-Line! And that same O-Line is why it’s “hump or death” for Tua to get the ball out in under 2.2 seconds!
Don’t blame Tua… I can’t stress this enough.
Mike E.
says:
December 8, 2024 at 7:57 pm (Edit)
Funny thing about the Rams game is that our defense won that game
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Even a blind squirrel finds the nut sometimes
You mean like Tua getting a chance to drive the team for a victory? I agree!!! Takes a confluence of playing a team with no real interest in the game and that he finally got his head out of his ass and found the most dynamic receiver on the team finally on the game winning drive, and add in Jason Sanders hitting 2 huge deep FG’s, just like the Cowboys game. We should dispatched the Jets much quicker
You are just salty we won and Tua played great.
I’m salty because I know he will never be able to do that against a better team when it really counts
I have yet to see one post blaming Tua about beating teams with losing records…lmao
Back on track. Best of the bad teams baby!
M – I know the O-line sucks! I know the defense sucks too! I know Tua isn’t good enough to carry this team, but we paid him like could, which is why during the rest of his tenure with this team, they will all most likely continue to suck. We let our best guys go so Grier could pay the chosen one. Mistake! Tua should have pulled a Brady so we could fill our roster better but noooo, he needed a top contract. Now we’re going to suffer that mistake until he gets hurt and retires.
I’m pretty sure most everyone weren’t exactly thrilled about the Tua contract. BUT to be fair, it was either pay him what the going rate is, and keep him on our team (which DOES give us the best chance to win, albeit he hasn’t proven anything in big games yet, but neither have many of the QBs getting paid) OR let the best qb we’ve had since Marino walk. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet. Grier has definitely ignored/ failed us in many of our recent drafts. It’s HIS job to put together a winning team, and he has failed repeatedly.
Ken – if Tua played great, we wouldn’t have needed OT
Oh I forgot Tua gave up over 300yards passing. My bad. It’s Tua’s fault.
Those 2 things can mutually be true. I know the defense sucked, I explained why 1000 fucking times, but the defense sucking doesn’t make Tua any better a QB
oh! Mike
seems to me Brady won his first SB on the backs of his D, but all we ever hear about is his game winning drive
So, Tua confirmed the narrative…he can be bad teams.. lmao…we knew that
Exactly right Krishna, they know it too, deep inside but they suppress it because it hurts
That is called projection
..beat..
anyone see Josh Allen today in the 2nd half, after being down 17 pts?
Like he was possessed
Tua never does that, he’s just not that type of QB, but he is a hell of a lot more accurate
Allen missed on several wide open receivers, while on the run, and it cost the bills
Dude put up all 6 of their TDs. They aren’t even in the same conversation honestly.
Steve – thanks for helping my cause. You’re 100% right. Brady took less money all those years to allow the Patriots to assemble a great team around him, and they did. Tua wanted the highest contract and he got that, but now he has to face the music that he’ll never win with the cap situation we’re in and with less talent around him, especially if Grier is the GM and MM is the HC
I think the biggest problem is that we are in Year 5 with Tua, Year 3 with McD, and Year 8 with Grier and this team looks similar to every other bad team from the past 20 years. I’d think that by now we’d see some real progress if it was going to happen. Not just getting in the playoffs and getting beat again. That’s not true progress. Dan Campbell is in Year 4 of building back the worst franchise in the NFL, the Lions. In Year 3, they went to the NFC Champ game. We aren’t close to that so it’s probably time to move forward and on.
New Age – not even in the same division. Oops! I fucking wish!!
Wait, are we praising Brady for taking less so his team could be a winner on this blog now? Asking for myself.
Not so much praising him but giving him credit for knowing what it takes to win. For the record, Brady was more clutch in his career than Tua will ever be, but that’s not saying much. If Tua really wanted to win he could have taken less to help the team, but he didn’t
Mike E,
Year 2 in Philly, Reid was 11-5 and won a playoff game. Year 3, Shanahan was in SB. Two wins the year before he was hired. Sean McDermott put the Bills in the playoffs his first year when they hadn’t been in 19. John Harbaugh went to the AFC champ game first season.
We can do so much better.
I agree, and we’ve given Grier more than enough rope already
I think Grier would be a good scout where he has to work under someone and weed out his bad choices, but he’s not GM material. I also don’t know how much pressure Grier is under by Ross to win now fueling his bad decisions. Regardless he hasn’t done what it takes to build this team into a winner.
Evan – it’s not the popular answer but being the best QB since Marino doesn’t really say much, does it? I mean Ryan Tannehill won playoff games when he left here. Is Tua really so much better than Tannehill? Statistically, of course, but Tua’s record against good teams is pathetic, and I felt like we had seen enough to know he’ll never carry this team. It took a GM to try and give him the best receivers and a HC who coddles him. It still hasn’t yielded results, and I haven’t even brought up his injury issues.
Hahaha! You make a fair point for sure 😂😂 I don’t know man. I just like that he’s taken every offseason and improved a particular aspect of his game. He takes it seriously, and has been hated on so much during his career. I agree he hasn’t put the team on his back in big games the way we want, but damn it i have hope that he’ll learn it with us and not some other team. We’ve seen him grow leaps and bounds over the last couple years. I’d like to think that it’s just a matter of time before he can be that QB that we so desperately need.
Goodnight all! Sweet Tua dreams for those of you who think he’ll win a playoff game someday for the Dolphins
been awhile. Not a season we wanted, but whatever whatever … it’s never a bad day when we beat the Jets. just sayin.
The Chiefs win close so so games most of the time. It’s not dominant stuff.
key word: WIN
LMAO Tim!! They haven’t been dominant this year, but they’re frigging 12-1, we’re 6-7. Mahomes O-line is awful, but that mofo wins no matter what, whatever he has to do against any team, at any time, in any place.
Mike E And Tim,
Mets sign Soto: 15 years $765 million
That’s ridiculous, it really is. He better be worth it
What I liked about the Mets last season was we were a team, we got contributions from so many different people, it was so much fun to watch. Now we’re the NY Sotos. I know you’re gonna think I’m crazy, I would rather have signed Alonso and then gotten 2 or 3 starters, one being Corbin Burnes and another front line pitcher, maybe Max Fried. Then maybe one more slugger, maybe Joc Pederson. That crazy thing is we still might. Reminds of the Steinbrenner Yankees which I always despised, it just never seemed fair.
There’s an opt out clause after 5 years, but the Mets can void the opt out by paying him $55M for the last 10 years of the contract, making it a total of $805M. Just totally absurd money.
WOW
Evan – Look at Sam Darnold for a good example. Cast off by the NYJ because he was awful on an awful team. He has a team now, with some quality players and he’s playing so well. Tua is never going to get enough quality players around him because he took the big money. The money allocation on our roster is so skewed, the offense, namely 1 QB, and 2 WR’s are making $91.1M of our cap in ’25. No one builds a team like that and wins. We’re not going to be capable of building that team around Tua, especially with the dynamic duo of Chris Grier and Mike McDaniel. I hope Tua’s glad he’s one of the highest paid QB’s. Ken can complain about the defense from today till tomorrow, but we’re not fixing it with the money we’re going to have available and we’ll be a mediocre team again that can feast on the weak, and get bested by the better.
In the middle of the night I got up to pee, just like every night, didn’t see one of the dogs and stepped on his paw. He let out just a small whimper and gave me a “watch where the fuck you are going” look.
I told him I was sorry. After my head cleared a bit and I got done peeing, I walked passed him back to the bed while he gave me a “don’t do it again motherfucker” look and it just popped in my head at that moment and I told him, “It’s not my fault, it’s Tua’s fault.”
Took me awhile to fall back asleep. lol
LOL!!
🤣🤣🤣
Chiefs have won 10 of 12 games by 1 score. About half were 4th quarter come from behind wins.
Watching the Bills lose was a nice cap to the football weekend.
Tua vs Sam Darnold 2024
https://stathead.com/football/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=TagoTu00&year_min=2024&player_id1=DarnSa00&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=pfr&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=DarnSa00
It’s Monday. It’s Tua’s fault.
[Joe Schad] Tua Tagovailoa has completed 70 percent or better in last 7 games. Only one player has ever had 8 consecutive games in a season with 70 percent or better: Joe Montana
I did many mocks taking Graham Barton and then Zach Frazier. Both very good in pass protection and run blocking. Both can play anywhere on the IOL. Both are playing Center right now for their teams.
Lowest pressure rates allowed by rookie offensive linemen in Week 14 (excluding MNF, min. 10 pass block snaps)
1. Beaux Limmer, LAR: 0% (30 pass snaps/0 pressures)
3. Zach Frazier, PIT: 3.4% (29/1)
5. Jackson Powers-Johnson, LV: 4.9% (41/2)
6. Graham Barton, TB: 5.7% (35/2)
8. Patrick Paul, MIA: 6.7% (45/3)
I also took Beaux Limmer in a couple who is the starting center for the Rams. He wasn’t drafted until the 6th round.
LG Graham Barton, OC Aaron Brewer, RG Zach Frazier would have been nice!
Though we wouldn’t have ended up with Patrick Paul and we would be hurting at OT right now.
Cooper Beebe was another one who plays tonight.
This past draft had to have one of the best IOL groups in the last decade. For us to not draft one was criminal.
Stats were all from “The 33rd Team”.
Lowest pressure rates allowed by rookie offensive linemen in Week 13 (excluding MNF, min. 10 pass block snaps)
2. Zach Frazier, PIT: 0% (41/0)
3. Mason McCormick, PIT: 0% (41/0)
5. Cooper Beebe, DAL: 0% (37/0)
9. Jackson Powers-Johnson, LV: 2.6% (38/1
10. Graham Barton, TB: 5.1% (39/2)
It’s a failure on Grier
I get and like the pick of Chop Robinson. He is coming on and think he is going to be really good. But I didn’t get the rest of the draft and free agency. To ignore the OL the way did is baffling
I agree
Names like Brady and Montana invoked in the same sentence as Tua. My God.
MikeE., I know you wanted the Dolphins to lose and I know you can’t watch this until you get home but I think this might make you feel better about the win. I am only posting the last 10 min or so. They sound much like us on this blog. lol
Watch to the very end. What the last dude says cracked me up.
BBM,
I watched a little of that video you posted. All it did is remind me of why I watch football alone….and make me dislike yets fans even more. Lol
lol
The amount of money baseball players are getting is off the charts.
It sure is, but at least baseball players play about 160 games, so the per game price is way less than the NFL
It’s really the amount of years that’s kind of crazy.
Dan Campbell built an OL and DL with the picks he got from the Rams, the strong OL enables Goff to be the pocket passer gunslinger, that he is
Build inside out, with a little help from your friends
Put Tua on the Lions and he’d tear it up too, just like Goff
The Lions, after 60 years of failure, lucked into something special, what we have with MM/Grier isn’t special and never will be as constructed, MM needs to move to OC and let a leader lead
D can’t get enough pressure, and it’s killing our secondary
Chubb needs to be back this week to provide some pressure, thats the only way I see us winning out
if Tampa beats the Chargers this week, it puts us in a great situation, as long as we win out
DEN vs LAC in 2 weeks
There were 3 or 4 plays yesterday where the game could have been over, but it wasn’t. And then we won. Why I at least watch games, just for the chance of something like that.
Tua has a QB rating of 107.4. That’s tied for 4th best. To some of you seems like he is the dog that pulled the Thanksgiving turkey off the kitchen counter.
Stanger – To be honest, and for the 1000th time, he has really nice stats, except the W/L record when he plays against a better team when it counts. We know he can whoop ass on the crappy teams, he’s been doing that with regularity since he got here. Some of us care about getting into the playoffs and winning those games. Sam Darnold has a better QB rating this year, so there.
Sam Darnold is one of the 3 Qbs that has a better rating and has been having a great year. Tua has thrown up great stats year after year.
Stanger, reply for you down below, under Randy’s post. Hard for me to reply at work. 🙂
I heard they identified the shooter of the United Healthcare CEO. It was Tua
LOL
They may have caught the shooter because he took down his mask to flirt with the check in girl at the hospice he stayed at. Guy has to be kicking himself for being driven by his dick!
A couple of million years of evolution and somethings never change
Evolution?
Steve, The Colts also play at Denver this weekend. Then Denver is @Chargers, @Bengals then home week 18 vs Chiefs.
If the Dolphins, some how, win out and make it to the playoffs and win a game, I will relent and change my Avi to the koolaid man and root for this team as it is comprised. (front office)
I think I will be keeping the Avi though.
So the Phins have to win 4 in a row, make the playoffs (even then not certain) and then beat one of the highest seeds in the first round? Seems takes a lot to make you happy.
Buffalo in Buffalo would likely be our opponent
I heard they found a QB in FL who plays his worst in big games and can’t win a playoff game. It was Tua.
Stanger – Darnold was on the frigging Jets! Now he’s on a team, and a good one, and he’s slaying it, 10-2. It’s not only the QB rating, it’s winning football games. We talk about Tua’s completion percentage like he’s a GOD, he’s accurate, mostly because he’s been throwing screen passes and 10 yard passes all season. He better be completing 75% of his passes in that range. His play degrades significantly when we play better teams, and that’s a problem. If you just want to have a decent season and have no aspirations to make the playoffs, then Tua’s your QB.
It’s a team game. Put the best QB you want to name on the worst team out there and they still only get 5 or 6 wins. I didn’t expect much from the Phins this season. Was going like 10-7 maybe 9-8. And that matches up to what has happened given Tua was out. Am I supposed to blame Tua for not playing?
@Underdog__NFL
Tua Tagovailoa, past 4 weeks:
75.1% completion rate (1st)
1,301 passing yards (2nd)
11 TDs (1st)
0 INT (1st)
In Week 14, Tua joined Dan Marino as the only Dolphins QBs with 3 consecutive 300-yard passing performances.
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So even though Tua’s not taking deep shots down the field, he’s still #2 in passing yards over the last 4 weeks! That’s rather remarkable!
Because the coaches have made adjustments. I think MM has done a great job on adjusting the offense. Sorry, I want him back. Fire Grier, whatever, but please keep this coach.
I tend to agree with ya, Bookman. By the way, your positivity is really good to see!
@flasportsbuzz
Dolphins, who were tied for first averaging 5.0 per carry last season, are now 28th at 3.9 per carry. McDaniel said just now that among other things, they need to “block better.”
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Just remember, the fans are more concerned about the (interior) O-Line than Chris Grier.
Mike E,
This one’s for you!
@BrianCatNFL
Dolphins TE Jonnu Smith needs 102 yards in 4 games to set all time Dolphins record in yardage for a TE.
Tua is so underrated 🤣
No, he is just “rated” lol
This is the best week. Just beat the Jets. Now, beat the Texans! Enjoy each game!!!
The Bengals suck, fire the coach and get rid of Burrow.
He is injury prone
The coach might have some issues, but the Burrow talk is ridiculous. Dude already has 30 TDs which is the primary way you win games. I wish Tua knew how to throw 30 TDs in a year much less in just 12 games.
Bookman,
Reply to you just up the board!
Stanger – of course, but I blame Ross, Grier and MM for putting all their broken eggs in one basket. At the very least, you prepare for Tua getting injured which was almost a certainty, and the way they handled it, it was like they were shocked. You want to tie your season to an oft injured QB? Fine, but make sure you’re ready to win without him
Could not agree more they should have put say $6 mil into a quality back-up QB. But I was just talking Tua, who doeesn’t control that.
Stanger – it’s also so much more than just Tua, as I’ve been explaining. This roster was put together with straw and glue because they decided to pay Tua, Hill, Waddle, Ramsey and Chubb, trade away all our picks to get them, and then be forced to hand out a bunch of 1 year contracts to a lot of meh players. This roster construction was the result of paying Tua, and letting Wilkins and Hunt go. Then the Tua defenders bitch about the O-line and the defense and throw high praise for Tua. The defense sucks because of Tua and the O-line sucks because Tua needed the top QB pay. This is the reality and it’s going to be this way for a while. You leave Grier in charge of thus team, and MM as the HC who holds no one accountable, get used to losing
Can’t argue with that at all. I was convined at the start of the season that this year’s team was not as good as the last. A lot of of that was cause they had to pay Tua. But not paying Tua means you don’t have him.
I want to see this sick mofo fry, IF he’s guilty… him and Puffy both. Yes, it’s personal to me…
https://x.com/MF13SS/status/1866302942795460968
M – Jonnu is the most dynamic TE we’ve had here since Randy McMichael, but McMike didn’t have the RAC explosion Jonnu has
Right? And Randy McMichael ROCKED!
Can’t BELIEVE that Jonnu is only 100 yards away (with 4 games left!), to become our franchise leader at the TE position!
OUTSTANDING signing! And this is also why I don’t believe we need to get a TE in round 2 of the ’25 Draft (though I LOVE PSU’s Tyler Warren!). We have bigger fish to fry than to take a TE so early.
I wouldn’t have a problem with Tua if he had produced real winning stats the past 5 years. I mainly have problems with the way this team is constructed but Tua is a Sam Darnold type QB with a huge injury history. That’s probably not good enough unless you get an amazing coach and GM. I’d be fine with Tua if we had Andy Reid and our GM was Howie Roseman. You’d need guys of that caliber for Tua to be successful. We have to keep Tua for at least 3 more years so I’m all aboard getting rid of our trash and finding that coach and GM who can make Tua good enough.
JMO, but if we fix the IOL, Tua’s going to be just fine in terms of a supporting cast. He’s become an absolute STUD.
The problem? His next concussion might end his career. And that’s why it’s so important to find a QB in the ’25 Draft. It’s absolutely necessary, due to Tua’s concussion and injury history.
He needs to score a LOT more to be a stud. He’s solid and not a detriment to the team but he’s not going to bring us a playoff win without lots of help.
ALWAYS remember the lessons we learned during Saban’s tenure here in ’05-’06. We can have Pro-Bowlers and All-Pros (including future Pro-Bowlers and All-Pros) at the skill postions all day.
However, if you don’t have an O-Line, you can’t successfully run the ball nor successfully pass the ball. Yet… somehow… Tua is still getting it done. Image Tua with a legit O-Line? An O-Line that will allow our RBs to get back to 5.0 YPC? A Safety will then have to come up, and there goes the opossing 2-high Safety concept that keeps us from throwing deep.
CHECKMATE! 😀
*Opposing
Bad speeling frum mi, LOL
New Age, just to be clear… I’m not saying CHECKMATE to YOU. I’m saying CHECKMATE to opposing Defenses.
Tua’s not getting it done. We had a really good OL last year, running game, and scored a ton of points. Tua still only had 29 TDs last year. I have no problem with that, but he’s never had a season where he averaged 2 TDs a game. Not one and his yearly average is 1.5 per game. That’s terrible honestly.
Sam Darnold just needs 2 TDs to outscore Tua’s best year playing 17 games. Just 2 in 4 games. TDs win games, not yards. Tua has averaged 1.5 TDs per game since he entered the league and has never averaged 2 per game with McD. All that offense last year, and a defensive mastermind, and Tua averaged 1.7 TDs/game. Getting to the 20 and scoring FGs won’t win games. Having your run games score those TDs will but you need an OL for a running game. Guess what Grier didn’t buy this past year?
Thank God for you New Age, I feel like I’m talking to myself here sometimes, everyone seems hypnotized by Tua.
Just desperate for any kind of winning. He’s ok but the injury history and average performance against top talent is well known after 5 years. I never thought I’d see a Bama QB shrink under pressure, but he does. Not all the time but a lot. His worst games are against the best teams and while that’d kinda to be expected, it’s not going to get you playoff wins.
New Age,
Yes, I agree on the TD matter with Tua… I’ve even admitted as much to Mike E. Know what the answer may be? Get a TE like Mike Gesicki for redzone sits and a WR like DeVante Parker for redzone sits… NOT saying to use early Draft picks on as much. And of course, fix the interior O-Line.
As currently constituted, we’re akin to an NBA fast-break Offense who can only shoot 3-pointers: we can’t control the paint (redzone).
I’m just looking for solutions, nothing less, as always.
Heck… why not bring Gesicki back? He could be our redzone specialist at TE and he should come rather cheap! NO… I’m not calling for Gesicki to reclaim his #1 TE job… Jonnu Smith is the ONE!
Ya carry 4 TEs… two who can move the chains or redzone threats, and two who are solid blockers.
Now, one can get the best of both worlds with Tyler Warren in the 2nd round… but then how do we adequately address our O-Line and Defensive weaknesses?
This is a QB league now. Miami has damaged goods. Hard to play scared with your QB.
Just a thought…
I honestly believe that Tua has graduated to the point where he does NOT ‘need’ 2 of the highest paid WRs in the NFL. The training wheels need to come off, and Coach McDaniel has successfully reinstalled the confidence Tua needed after the Brian Flores experience.
Even Minkah Fitzpatrick saw the writing on the wall and wanted to get the funk out of Flores’ BS.
And contrary to popular belief, AVG did NOT choose Flores as DC in Minny over returning to Miami this season.
AVG felt as though he belonged here in Miami, but Chris Grier didn’t even offer him a deal.
Alright, I’ve GOT to make one more statement regarding the Flores regime. It’s WELL DOCUMENTED that Flores wanted Justin Herbert over Tua, but he was overruled by the FO. Flores would get his Defensive player a season later in one Jaelan Phillips.
Gotta LOVE(!) Jaelan Phillips, the person… but didn’t Phillips have quite the injury history… including… MULTIPLE CONCUSSIONS in college? He actually quit college football at one point, due to his massive injury history. Yup, it’s very true, and I called it out on Draft Night ’21.
Yet… I NEVER HEAR anybody talking smack about the Jaelan Phillips selection! But, I ALWAYS hear smack being talked about the Tua selection. I’m NOT talking about the good folks here on this blog, I’m talking about the MEDIA in general (y’all know the usual suspects), and screwy Twitter/X posters who don’t even know the difference between a man and a woman.
It’s truly difficult to wrap one’s head around.
Does Tua really suck that badly, and is Phillips the next Jason Taylor? Damn, y’all… this fanbase is the worst in ALL of sports. YES, even worse than the Philly Eagles.
mf13,
I agree about not needing the speed WRs. It’s been shown that even average QBs can win with a balanced team. Tua did a great job last year with a great running game and a solid defense. While most of it was probably playing weak teams, Grier just needed to add to the OL, get Jonnu, and add defense and we would have been fine. Instead, him and McD decided we just needed 4 players to win this year…which is retarded.
Grier is unable to find the talent we need. He finds some good talent, but they are almost always either injury prone or a position of no need. He mainly wastes later picks which is bad and pays out ridiculous contracts to guys who just can’t get it done. The problems are mainly Grier and McD but the Tua contract hamstrings us.
Grier and MM are tied at the hip, MM wants fast finesse players, that don’t hold up, Grier is just getting the types of players MM asked for
the MM philosophy is our biggest problem right now, he came from SF who plays a similar system, but plays it physically
MM took the SF system added speed and removed the physicality, what a schmuck
In a group text yesterday, I asked my friends who are huge football fans, 3 of them Jets, 1 Steelers, 1 Giants and asked them if they would want Tua as their QB. They all said NO. Steeler fan said absolutely not, injury history makes it so I wouldn’t touch him. 1 Jets fan said his injury history makes it impossible to take him and he added he can’t win big games or play in the cold. Giants fan just said no because of the health risk but said in big games he makes some really poor decisions. Steelers fan said if you take away the health risk, probably half the teams in the NFL would want him. One Jets fan said if you could take injury out of the equation he would want Tua as his QB, but added he’s a lowly Jets fan and take it from where it comes.
So, despite the extreme adulation from you Dolphins fans, Tua is not revered around other NFL circles, just thought you might want to know that.
Ah a scientific survey I see well there you have it
LOL
the poor decisions come from the anticipation O he played in last 2 years, it looks great, when things are working, but it’s prone to bad looking throws
throwing only 4 ints in the Brady offense tells you all you need to know in comparison
Uh…I’ve said it before he was drafted…lol.
He’s fragile!!! Where are the facts he’s NOT?
Lmfao!
For some of you “health risk” = fragile…lol
I eagerly await to see how Darnold plays in the playoffs. I really do, because my feeling is he will do better than Tua, but I’ll have to wait and see. Doing better than Tua isn’t saying much, because he was injured for one playoff game and missed it and played poorly in the other game. Much more than wanting Sam Darnold, I wish we had a QB with a $5M cap hit, especially one that outplays ours with a $50M cap hit. Ugh!
Darnold was a #3 overall pick with tremendous talent when drafted. The fact that he is successful now is further proof why you don’t give up on Tua
corrected, play QB for jets
you’re talking about 1 year on a team with a great supporting cast, with a very good D, gimmicky and will be figured out
I don’t think anyone would trade Tua for Darnold straight up
against Buffalo in Buffalo Tua did enough to win this year, his play in the new dink and dunk O is so much different than last year in that O, that saying he can’t win against good teams is a weak argument, you could say he hasn’t
Then there’s the GB game…he did beat the Rams in LA a game Buffalo lost
The defense won the Rams game. Tua was meh
Steve – Yes, 1 year, and he didn’t need time to integrated or familiar with a “new” offense, he’s just playing great football. Tua’s been here 5 years, and we still make excuses for him. To add, it’s more likely that Darnold has a better career from here on than Tua gets a good enough roster to win with. He needs the best everywhere, it’s just not feasible. Besides Justin Jefferson, who else is great on the Vikes offense? I’ll wait . . .
Ken – I’ll take my fucking chances and let Tua go in a millisecond! Just let him and his salary go elsewhere and we can try to find a QB who can play full seasons and win big games.
Ken – As scientific as needed for NFL football. Just ask people. It’s just as scientific as Allan Lichtman, who BTW was WRONG!!! Ha!
Steve – No team would trade Tua for period, and you know that in your heart. He’s a damaged flower. Darnold on the other hand is showing what he’s capable of being on a good team.
Ken
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December 10, 2024 at 7:44 am (Edit)
Darnold was a #3 overall pick with tremendous talent when drafted. The fact that he is successful now is further proof why you don’t give up on Tua
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2 players headed in 2 different directions. After 7 seasons, it’s clear that Darnold can play with a supporting cast. After 5 years with Tua, you know you shouldn’t expect him to play 17 games, or expect him to play well in cold weather or big games. You also know he’s one concussion away from retirement either voluntarily or involuntarily. This is where we’re at.
2 different directions? I see the hate is strong in you. It took Darnold this long to finally play at Tua’s level.
I just woke up. I will have to come back later to join this convo when my head clears. lol
Looking forward to Tua crushing another narrative. 🙂
stangerx
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December 9, 2024 at 4:48 pm
So the Phins have to win 4 in a row, make the playoffs (even then not certain) and then beat one of the highest seeds in the first round? Seems takes a lot to make you happy.
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It wouldn’t take that much if they had not lost 6 of the first 8 games! They have already lost me as a fan. This “a lot to make me happy” is what it will take to make me come back to being a fan, without Grier’s head rolling. (Figuratively) (or literally for that matter!)
I’m easier than you. 9-8 after starting 2-6 would give me hope for the future.
This is where I am at. Despite Tua’s injury history, he is going to be the QB for the next couple years if no more concussions. He’s not tradable in the immediate future. Reality is we have to focus on the team and what it needs going forward with Tua.
I do think Tua can succeed in not just this system. Before MM in 2021, Tua had a higher completion % and higher passing success rate than he did in MM’s first year.
Last year Tua’s completion % was only 1.5% higher than 2021 and passing success rate only .6% higher.
Tua’s winning % before MM was .615%, winning % after MM got here is .625%. Not a whole lot of difference in the bottom line.
The one good season, 11-6 last year, they put together a good OL with Armstead, Wynn, Williams, Hunt, Jackson. The DL, we started with OLB Chubb, DE Seiler, NT Davis, DE Wilkins, OLB Phillips.
Armstead was only able to play 10 games, we lost Wynn game 7, lost Williams game 9, then Hunt missed 7 games. Then on D we lost Phillips after 8 games I think, lost Chubb, Goode and Davis got banged up.
You can’t win no matter what against good teams if you are weak in the trenches.
This team has never had a very good OL since Tua has been here. The start of 2021 was close to VG but that quickly faltered with the injuries.
Mike E.
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December 9, 2024 at 8:58 pm
Stanger – of course, but I blame Ross, Grier and MM for putting all their broken eggs in one basket. At the very least, you prepare for Tua getting injured which was almost a certainty, and the way they handled it, it was like they were shocked. You want to tie your season to an oft injured QB? Fine, but make sure you’re ready to win without him
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What is even worse is that they put him on IR for political reasons. He is on record of not having any symptoms after the first day. Why put him on IR and lose 5 weeks? (4 games) There was no need for him to sit more than 3-4 days. He could have cleared protocol the first week. They put the season in a critical situation by trying to quiet the clamor over him getting hurt again. Like I’ve said since his 2nd concussion, other teams clear their guys the same week somehow, yet it takes a week or more to clear our guys. WTF is that about if not bowing to perception?
Grier & MM need to go! and the new GM needs to trade Tua for whatever he can get!