Dolphins will go forward with young secondary

Nothing is official yet, summer is about to be upon us, so as far as the NFL is concerned, it’s very early, and nothing is set in stone. What we can probably surmise is that one way or another, whether it’s by trade or just an outright release, DB Jalen Ramsey will not play for the Miami Dolphins. We have a bunch of young players who will get a chance here they wouldn’t get on most NFL teams, but sometimes that’s all a player needs, is a chance. I’m not going to be surprised if at least one player steps and ends up being a decent starter. CB Cam Smith has had chances, and maybe he finally takes advantage of it, but he’s low on my list of candidates. I also believe that Asante Samuel Jr. is not really in the cards, I think we’re in low cost mode, we have a glut of defensive backs, someone should rise to the occasion.

So who are the players involved? Storm Duck is in the thick of it, CB Kader Kohou is an Anthony Weaver favorite, and I wouldn’t discount him playing outside some, and maybe veteran CBArtie Burns will play some nickel. I also think this year’s 5th RD pick Jason Marshall will be heavily involved in this competition, along with a couple of guys who impressed and showed some good things last season such as CB’s Isaiah Johnson and Ethan Bonner.

At Safety, I think the 2 vets have a leg up, SS Ifeatu Melifonwu and FS Ashtyn Davis, but I definitely think last year’s 6th RD pick S Patrick McMorris and this year’s 5th RD pick S Dante Trader will get their chances and may even overtake one or both of the vets before the season is over, because the future is what this team is all about. We can say we’re not rebuilding, but this roster needs an overhaul, and plugging holes with older players seems to be a thing of the past, and rightfully so. It’s time to do it right. We need to get the most out of draft picks, develop them, and keep them, and stop overpaying for other team’s former players in Free Agency and in the trade market. That’s how we got here, and since we’re here now, let’s make the most of it.

I was angry about the way this team has been handled, but if Ross closed the purse strings because he’s tired of paying malcontents and former superstars that aren’t producing playoff wins here, then that’s good with me. That doesn’t mean GM Chris Grier is gone, but it could mean his time is running out. Ross never refused to bankroll Chris Grier’s wants, but that has now come to and end, and rightfully so. This is the right way to do things, and we need to realize that draft picks are precious, and the players you draft with those picks need to be valuable assets on your team and produce, and as far as early picks are concerned, produce NOW! Stop stifling rookies development in order to let vets play, we’ve done that far too often. We know that at least in the secondary, that type of practice is over with because all we have are young players, besides CB Artie Burns, and Safeties Melifonwu and Davis. Not gonna lie, at first I was thinking it would be ridiculous to have these young players fight for a job, but now, I’m excited about it and even somewhat optimistic.

I’m not in any way saying our secondary will be great, but if we can see that we have some starters among all those young guys from last year and this year, and they can play ball, even if they’re average, I think that’s great for the team. It’s time to do things the right way now and stop trying to get immediate results by overpaying veteran players. Now we do have some tough decisions on some of our own veteran players like DT Zach Sieler. He’s underpaid, but you don’t want him to go from underpaid to way overpaid either, especially as he’ll be turning 30 at the beginning of the season. He is a great player though, salt of the earth, lunch pail type of guy, and he deserves to be paid without question. We’ll have to see what happens with TE Jonnu Smith who was my favorite player last season. He gave us something we haven’t had here, and I know we all loathe to pay players who are under contract, but he’s a good guy by all accounts and if we can make him happy without paying him silly money, I’m all for it. Next week I’m going to discuss everyone here’s favorite part of the team. Not QB Tua Tagovailoa sillyheads, the Front 7!

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233 Responses to Dolphins will go forward with young secondary

  1. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Maybe I’m nuts, but I have never been a big fan of Montana. He had a fricking HOF cast around him. He did play big in some big games, but he had every piece you could want to win. Those 49er teams were stacked. I give any QB from that are props for being tough and taking hits, but I’d take Marino over Montana any day. Marino was elite at throwing the ball. Montana was a good thrower, and he was mobile.

    I just can’t get past the players around him. Great RBs. Great WRs. A great OL. Great defense. I mean…come on. How’d he do once he was out of that situation? Not as good.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Joe Montana agrees with you. Those 49er teams were some of the best I’ve ever seen.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      To be fair, Montana left the Niners at age 36, which was the equivalent of being like 40-45 back then.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      he was great in that system with those players, equivalent to Tua at Bama

      I thought he was good in KC too, but he wasn’t Brady in Tampa or even Manning in Denver

  2. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I think Montana is one of the greats

    I would take Marino over him too though

    but Montana was pretty good with the chiefs too as I recall in

  3. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    “We’ll have to see what happens with TE Jonnu Smith who was my favorite player last season. He gave us something we haven’t had here, and I know we all loathe to pay players who are under contract, but he’s a good guy by all accounts and if we can make him happy without paying him silly money, I’m all for it.” ~ Mike E

    Mike E,

    If we’re not going to sign anybody to compete in our DB room (ie: ASJ), then I 100% agree with you above… not silly money, but fair money.

  4. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Liked Montana but would take Marino over him also. What sets Montana apart from being an above average QB to being elite (IMO), Montana could put the team on his back and win.

  5. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Had Marino been drafted by Bill Walsh and Montana by Don Shula (I realize, different Draft classes), nobody would even know who Montana was and Marino would have had as many rings as Tom Brady… just speaking to the supporting cast Montana had with his 49ers teams.

    That’s not a diss to Montana… that’s a praise to Marino.

    Yet, ironically… Marino wouldn’t have the stats he has if he played in the Walsh system with incredible run-support.

    Point? Marino > Montana… all day, any day, every day.

    Even Montana has stated that Marino is the greatest QB of all-time. And Peyton Manning’s hero wasn’t Montana… it was Marino.

  6. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Montana did what he was supposed to do in a great system loaded with talent. Marino was otherworldly. He had great WR’S and a great O-line, but never had the defense or RB

  7. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Just remember Joe Montana won without Jerry Rice the first two Super Bowls. That team was great on defense and the running game. Just saying! Rice was drafted in 1985.

  8. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Sounds like many a conversation in my house LOL. I once used the “better supporting cast comment” it has been thrown back in my face many times ..

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      lol, I have the same situation, being born in NV, an obvious choice in teams was the closest SF, like many from NV

      Raiders fans seemed to be mostly CA imports

  9. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    WTF, is this new speed law really going to change anything for 99% of drivers?

    Yeah, im waking up on July 1st thinking its the end of the world as I know it, the horror of not being able to fly down the road

    https://unionrayo.com/en/florida-new-law/

  10. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Rock, re: Montana. Not what I meant, but yeah, he had a great supporting cast. He still put the team on his back. Did it many times at ND also.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      agreed

      1980 I believe, SF at Miami and Montana was riding the pine on a shitty team

      Being a big Irish fan as a kid, I was like WTF is he doing on the bench

  11. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I think one thing to be excited about right now is our defensive front 7.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Ryder does a great job evaluating players on things players do that aren’t commonly recognized

      Brooks surely does some smart things the large majority of fans don’t understand

  12. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    This roster needs an overhaul Mike?

    who exactly needs to be replaced?

    we’ve gone from one of the oldest to one of the youngest

    the overhaul took place this summer, all 4 starting DBs essentially gone, Calais, Armstead gone, old backup OL gone

  13. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Chris Grier wants? Lol, think Ross is the guy that said he wants to win an SB before he dies and opened his checkbook for that purpose

    maybe Grier didn’t want to operate that way, but was ensured by Ross, that if it didn’t work out he’d have job security

    am i allowed to write this Rock or is it too far out there to suggest

  14. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I’m not going to lie (hate that saying, makes me think you’re lying) Sieler signed the contract he could get, 3 yrs 30M+, he’s underpaid, but not drastically, he’s outplayed every contract we’ve given him, time for an extension

    Reason from Phinside the NFL uses that not gonna lie far too often, like he’s trying to cover something up

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    @ESPNNFL

    “Jalen Ramsey will get traded. It’ll be, I would expect before the start of training camp. We’ll see how it shakes out, where he goes.”

    @AdamSchefter

    gives an update on the Miami Dolphins and Jalen Ramsey (via

    @PatMcAfeeShow

    )

  16. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    There is a LOT of chatter that the Stealers* are entering the Ramsey Sweepstakes. The more the merrier, and a better ROI for us.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I read that also. They are not bad at CB but can’t rule it out. They did sign Darious Slay for 1yr 10m and have Porter Jr on the other side. They only have 18.9m in cap space and dealing with a TJ Watt contract issue.

  17. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’ve been watching a lot of ’23 Phins highlights over the last week, trying to figure out what went wrong between then and ’24 on Offense.

    To no surprise, it was our O-Line and overall blocking prowess, IMO. Durham Smythe was very unsung as a blocking TE in ’23. Isaiah Wynn was playing VERY well in ’23 (missed most of ’24, but when he came back late, Achane started eating again). Connor Williams was playing at an elite level, despite his snapping issues (he’s since retired after going to the Seahawks). And of course, Robert Hunt was just awesome for us in ’23, but he “earned to the right to become a FA”.

    Last season, our O-Line was a bloody joke in comparison. However, and as usual, our O-Line was decimated by injuries in both ’23 and ’24. We were MUCH deeper in ’23 with better starters, while ’24 was just a shadow of its former self.

    Raheem Mostert had a season for the ages in ’23, along with rookie upstart Achane. Last season, they both regressed by and large… due to the O-Line issues.

    IF this season’s O-Line is successful, I feel our Offense will be as close to potent as it had been in ’23. Yet, I don’t think our depth is nearly as good… and I don’t see any of our TEs replacing Smythe as a solid blocker.

    I think our RB room is NICETY(!), but it will only go as far as our healthy O-Line is able to pave the way.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Brown is our Smythe replacement, little better blocker, Smythe regressed big time last year as if he had nothing left in tank

      2023 had a little from other non Waddle/Hill WRs and blocking

      2024 was a mess at WR due to Hill’s wrist, Waddle injuries, D taking away both and MM having no answers, and of course OL issues

      2025 has a chance to be better than 2023

  18. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Coach McD (and obviously Chris Grier) figured out a little (or a lot) too late that in order to beat 2-deep Safeties and if you can’t run at will (due to a shitty O-Line), you need guys like Achane and Jonnu Smith in the passing game underneath.

    We’re very fortunate that Achane wasn’t killed last season as a result.

    Did we do enough to fix the O-Line for the ’25 season? Only time will reveal. And yes, give Jonnu a legit pay-raise, just nothing too crazy.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      And if Jonnu’s camp isn’t happy with a legit pay-raise, trade him to the Stealers* for Darnell Washington and a future draft pick. We are sorely missing an incredible blocking-TE as we once had with Durham Smythe… but Washington is even better.

  19. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    What’s new? Crazy busy spring. Multiple trials, my sons graduated college. Just back from Washington DC hunting for an apartment for one them who is off to law school in August. Flipping expensive town. Any ways some to finally look at some football news

  20. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Everyone still grumpy around here?

  21. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Biggest difference in offense from 2023 to 2024:

    1. Loss of Robert Hunt
    2. Tyrek was playing hurt and looked a step slower.
    3. Mostert was hurt.
    4. Tua started all 17 games in 2023.
    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      All of the above are true, and I believe it goes even further.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        A LOT of which came down to $$$. Chris Grier chose… poorly.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        It does come down to dollars and every team has to face. The Bengals faced it and took a step backward. Even the Chiefs payed their D studs but their failure to add quality in the OL bit them in the ass in the SB

  22. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I don’t think we will see the OL of the start of 2023 before all the injuries. I think we will see a better OL than 2024, especially in the run game if Daniels is ready to go week 1.

    Reason being, I think PP is going to be as good as Armstead was last year and get better through the season. Jonah is going to be better as a rookie than Eich and Jones were last year. Jackson is back healthy. Second year in the system for Brewer.

    It all comes down to Daniels’ availability.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Word is OT Jackson Carman is getting a lot of work on the inside at the LG position. Last TC he worked mainly as an OT.

      I know they move guys around in OTA’s but still has me worried Daniels may not be ready for the season.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Daniels isn’t getting those reps yet, someone has to take them, has no effect on Daniels’ health directly

        Maybe Daniels won’t be ready, but just having someone play there in mini camp or OTAs by itself may not mean anything

  23. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    US dropping bombs on IRAN nuke sites.

  24. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    last year we had 3 RBs, that were mostly speed guys, one of which (Mostert) was hurt

    the depth, balance and health are better this year, can’t imagine they won’t be better

    just like the OL can’t be as bad, without several guys out extensively

  25. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Tyreek says

    “I’m getting Ramsey back in a Dolphins jersey, I don’t care what they say,” Hill said. “He’s a dog. He’s one of the best corners in the league, man. Great leader. Great teammate too, though. That’s what he doesn’t get a lot of credit for, man.”

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I would be good with it as long as he is 100% all in.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Our defense could be really special.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Agreed

        Players talk trash, when there’s a disagreement with the team, but seem to reverse course in a second

        This Ramsey rift may be overblown by the media

        We’re already paying him, might as well get what we paid for

        With Ramsey anything is possible this year, without not so much, if it doesn’t work out dump him next year

  26. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Not long after their latest playoff collapse, general manager Brad Treliving spoke about the need to change up the DNA of the Maple Leafs.

    “There’s some DNA that has to change in our team. If you keep getting to the same result, there’s some DNA that needs to change. That’s on me going forward. We’ve now started the planning, and it’s early, for putting a team together for 2025-26.”

    Seems we aren’t the only ones

    in hockey changing the DNA is much different, than in the NFL and why the Panthers were able to change from playoff softies to tough guys in just 1 season

  27. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I am hearing that Arizona could be in the Ramsey trade mix. They have a shot at winning the NFCW. They did just draft CB’s Will Johnson and Denzel Burke to go with 2nd year CB Max Melton. Their top 3 CB’s are 2 rookies and 2nd year Melton. They need a veteran presence at CB and safety help.

    Cardinals also have 30m in cap.

    They bolstered their defense already with Calias Campbell, Rookie DT Walter Nolan and pass rusher Josh Sweat.

  28. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – To answer your questions, there are going to be a lot of places on this roster that have to be upgraded. Hope that my little bit of positivity that I threw out there about the secondary didn’t confuse you that I’ve bought into what Grier is doing. Mostly, I’m just glad that he’s (hopefully) not overspending on other teams players at the moment, and that’s a good thing. Like I said in my article, if a couple of the guys we have in the secondary can even be average that will be a win. I’m not talking about Kohou, who has proven he can be or a bit better, but either Storm Duck, Cam Smith, Jason Marshall, Isaiah Johnson or Ethan Bonner. Same for the safeties, not Melifonwu or Davis, who are both here on 1 year contracts, but either Patrick McMorris or Dante Trader. Most likely we’re going to have to try and find better players at both CB and S for next season.

    Then you have the front 7, (not going to ruin next week’s article), but we’re going to need to find some pass rushers we can count on. Can you really expect either one or both of Chubb and Phillips to stay healthy this year and beyond? We might have a playa in Chop, but we need someone opposite him and then some depth too. Quinton Bell, Mo Kamara, Cam Goode? I don’t think so.

    We’ll see what happens with QB, but we may be looking for one of those next season if Tua either gets hurt (likely!), or just can’t find the intestinal fortitude to play better against better teams. Despite bringing in a whole bunch of D-linemen, we don’t know if any of them are going to be any good. We sure hope, but just bringing in a whole bunch of 320+ guys doesn’t make you the ’85 Bears.

    Then at WR, when Tyreek Hill will most likely be done after this season, or earlier if things go south, with either him or the team or both. If we either trade Jonnu or just don’t give him a raise or extension, are you really counting on Julian Hill, Tanner Conner or Jalin Conyers to be a frontline starting TE? I know I’m not! Now you can disagree with my take on any or all of these things but in reality, that’s lot of potential holes, and that doesn’t cover if the O-line doesn’t cut it too, even though we have what you may think was the best OG in the draft, despite hundreds of experts opining differently. He was more like the 8-14 best OG, and overall, more like the 20-30 best OL. We’ll see, but I’m not sure why you feel this roster won’t a need a lot of help next season. Overhaul may have been a poor choice of words, but we’re probably going to need to upgrade a whole lot of spots.

  29. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Ken – Yes, GAF! (Grumpy As Fuck!)

    No matter how Grier and McDaniel try to dress up this pig, we’re not ready to compete for a Superbowl or even the division with what they’ve done here.

  30. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Ken

     says:

    June 21, 2025 at 3:50 pm

    Biggest difference in offense from 2023 to 2024:

    1. Loss of Robert Hunt 
    2. Tyrek was playing hurt and looked a step slower.
    3. Mostert was hurt.
    4. Tua started all 17 games in 2023.

    ****

    for me the difference maker was the lack of running game which I think can be attributed in part to the loss of Hunt.

    I don’t think a hurt Mostert killed us

    also Tua’s injuries had a huge impact but probably would have been lessened by a solid running game

    I don’t think Hill was slower. I

  31. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I say WOW! Kudos to ‘Reek Da’ Cheetah for putting his big boy pants on and acting like a true leader of this team this offseason. IF he can get Ramsey to stay with us and go all-in, that would be GRAND!!!

    That would totally be a win-win for us. Let’s hope he can get it done!

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I just can’t spin this shit like you do. The guy who quit on our team and his teammates is going to ask another guy who wants out from our team to stay. Sounds like a winning formula right there.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        IMO, at least to have the best players on our roster, we need ‘Reek and Ramsey if we’re to have a winning season.

        I totally understand where you’re coming from as it pertains to selfish and misguided players… which they are. However, they are already bought and paid for… thanks to Chris Grier.

        And being they are already bought and paid for, we’re better with them than without them. It would be reckless at this point to be paying them to either sit or get a wad of used bubble gum in return via trade.

        That’s just my $.02, Brother. It is what it is, again, thanks to Chris Grier having brought them into the fold to begin with.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        We can’t un-ring that bell, we can’t un-slam that door, or whatever other cliche you can think of.

  32. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Are you guys ready for this heatwave? 100 degrees forecasted for me here in PA over the next 2 days… and with all the rain we’ve had thus far to date, it’s going to be HUMID over here… as in tropical rainforest HUMID.

  33. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E and I have absolutely loved bringing Jonnu Smith in last season. I say give him a reasonable pay-raise, just nothing crazy. Here’s why…

    Jonnu Smith | 2024 Highlights

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Hate to say it, but we’ll probably mishandle this somehow too. I just have no faith in Grier doing anything the right way.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      at the 1:45 mark Jonnu runs OB, instead of getting a few more yards, if he had gone forward his blocking WR may have been injured, as he was in a bad spot

      You watchin this shit, you jackass Poyer? The guy talkin all that shit, that had a better rate tackling Fins, instead of the enemy

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      every play was the same,

  34. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – forget Ramsey, that fucker is gone one way or the other. I don’t see how you bring him back. I don’t see how he comes back after Grier made it public we want him out too. Hill is in his last season this year, if he even makes it through this season. I can see him either claiming he’s injured or just quitting if things don’t go the way he wants them to. That’s what he is, unfortunately, he’s AB light right now. He’s a powder keg just waiting to explode. Now if somehow we have a successful season, Hill is probably still gone next season and he knows it too

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I’m sure you know, Tyreek’s cap hit next season is $51M. That’s beyond absurd, and you can’t redo a deal with him and add more years because that would be even a bigger mistake.

  35. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

    Yes, we all know that both ‘Reek and Ramsey are gone after this season, regardle$$. So I say — being both are already bought and paid for this season — make the best of it. Make lemonade out of the lemons instead of allowing the lemons we paid for to rot.

  36. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    @MF13SS

    @grok

    Can you assemble a list of the only NFL quarterbacks who led the NFL in passer rating, passing yards, and completion percentage in different seasons? For instance, Tua Tagovailoa led the NFL in passer rating in ’22, passing yards in ’23, and completion percentage in ’24

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      @grok in reply to @MF13SS

      Based on available data, Tua Tagovailoa led the NFL in passer rating (2022, 105.5), passing yards (2023, 4,624), and completion percentage (2024, 72.9%) in different seasons.

      Other quarterbacks likely meeting these criteria include:

      1. Peyton Manning: Passer rating (2004, 121.1), passing yards (2013, 5,477), completion percentage (2003, 67.0%).

      2. Drew Brees: Passer rating (2018, 115.7), passing yards (2011, 5,476), completion percentage (2017, 72.0%).

      3. Tom Brady: Passer rating (2010, 111.0), passing yards (2021, 5,316), completion percentage (2017, 66.3%).

      Historical records suggest this list is small, but further analysis is needed to confirm completeness. Data up to 2024 is considered.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      No, but you know I’m a stat guy, love stats. Unfortunately, our QB has managed to singlehandedly make all these stats obsolete because of his absurdly uneven play. I can almost guarantee you there isn’t an NFL QB in the last 100 years that plays so well against the lesser teams and plays so poorly against the winning teams. Tua fans put up his stats all the time, but what do they translate to? Absolutely nothing. He’s great against bad teams and can’t show up against good ones. Never seen anything like it. That’s why his stats are so good, because we’ve had the luxury of the Patriots and Jets in our division and them being so bad the last few years. That will likely come to an end this year, and I doubt he’ll be so excellent against those 2 teams who should be better this season

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Yet, it’s a team game. By no means am I stating Tua is faultless, and that’s real. He can do WAY better in protecting himself from himself.

        It’s not Tua’s fault we couldn’t run the ball last season, as we were able to do in ’22 and ’23. It’s not Tua’s fault that our O-Line suffers injuries to key starters every single season he’s been in the league.

        It’s not Tua’s fault that his #1 and #2 WRs have battled injuries over the last two seasons. It’s not Tua’s fault that we’ve had 3 different DCs over the last 3 seasons (Boyer, Fangio, and Weaver), who operate differently.

        It’s not Tua’s fault that Chris Grier brought in, over-paid, and then EXTENDED malcontents.

        It’s not Tua’s fault that early in his NFL career he got CREAMED with concussions, due to a shitty O-Line.

        And lastly, it’s not Tua’s fault that Chris Grier decided to pay him. Who in their right mind wouldn’t want to get the most $$$ they could possibly get as a player?

        Don’t hate the player, hate the game. After all, the NFL IS a business.

  37. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – Sometimes I feel like I’m speaking another language when I discuss these things. Yes, it’s a team game but I’m specifically talking about his performances, not the team. If you’re going to credit him with the good then you absolutely have to tag him with the bad too. That’s the way it works! You can’t say only his good stats count and the bad ones are the teams fault, that’s insanity. His stats against winning teams fall off a 100 foot cliff, and that’s all there is to it. I don’t hate Tua, I hate when people make Tua out to be better than what he actually is. He’s fine if we play teams that aren’t as good as us, that’s been that way his entire career. If we play in cold weather or against a better team, turn off the TV because he’s gonna play poorly.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      losing and playing poorly aren’t the same thing

      your stats/play overall for him against good teams is worse, than what you’re saying other people are doing

      You’re just saying his record is bad, and his stats are bad, therefore every time he plays a good team he sucks and that isn’t true

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I posted an AcePerHead video a couple of weeks back, it used chatgpt to get the facts

        what it showed was how poorly every unit on the team played in games against good teams, also showed Tua’s stats broken down with how the OL played the last 3 years

        point is MM is to blame for not having the team ready in big games

  38. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Tua needs great players around him to be good is another myth people like to tell

    he’s surely not been good with subpar around him at times, to be fair he’s played decently at times, even against good teams with subpar

    give him an avg OL and we’ll be fine, Eichenberg and Jones wasn’t that

  39. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – not even talking about his win/loss record which is beyond hideous, but his stats. They go waaaaaay down compared to the gaudy stats he complies against teams .500 or less.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      no one is questioning that

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Check M’s reply to me about it. I don’t want to call M out but Tua stans do it all the time. They put up gaudy Tua stats and you bring up his stats against winning teams and they come back with “it’s a team game, it’s not Tua’s fault”. You can’t have it both ways, if you’re gonna credit him with his overall play and stats being so good, you have to admit that he disappears when we play winning teams and stats go way down because he doesn’t play well.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        everyone knows his stats suck against good teams, he’s allowed to post a good stat without posting they suck against good teams

        he’s made plenty of posts, that say we maybe should move on from him, if this year is same ole

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        I am not only questioning it I am flat out disputing it and Mike is losing the argument! LOL

  40. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    I don’t need Chatgp or whatever it is called to tell me what it’s like to watch Tua in big situations.

    Everyone knows what it looks like and it is not good. Hes not balling out and losing like star QBs do when they lose…he’s invisible and not a star on the field. Hes being paid to be one

  41. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    There is going to be a legit battle in camp. Both NWI and Malik Washington will be competing for playing time and practice reps. Westbrook-Ikhine has a lot of experience and has produced, but Washington showed a lot of talent last season and has a lot of promise. This one will be a fun watch.

    they should both have a chance, like a platoon system, we know Ikhine will be used on the goal line, who will play the most on 3rd down between the 20s

  42. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    for me the difference maker was the lack of running game which I think can be attributed in part to the loss of Hunt.

    Piggy, the loss of Jackson with a torn meniscus really showed up in the running stats. We fell off a cliff after that.

  43. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Just stop engaging Mike E in the debate. It is ridiculous and totally bias to a preconceived notion, but you are not going to convince him so just let it go.

    ALL QB’s have their stats drop against good teams. I am going to commit an unforgivable sin in Mike’s eyes and compare him to the “elite” QB’s.

    Mahomes just beat up on “Bad teams”

    Det – 77.5

    Phil – 70.7

    GB – 76.5

    Buf – 74.2

    But he is soooooo inconsistent that these were his ratings against BAD teams that TUA beat up on…..

    LAC – 50

    DEN – 56

    LVR – 72.7

    NYJ – 62.8

    Mike your argument is false and can be argued against ALL QB’s At least Tua performs like he is supposed to against “Bad teams”

    Josh Allen:

    Cin – 85.2

    Phil – 82.1

    KS – 68.8

    Dal – 89.3

    Bad teams:

    NYJ – 62.7

    Den – 59.3

    NE 53.3

    Lamar Jackson only plays bad against BAD teams

    Hou – 79.5

    Pitt – 65.2 (not a bad team, but played poorly in a loss)

    Cle – 67.8

    Jax – 76.9

    Mia – 158.3 !!!!!!

  44. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rock – Is that one season you’re putting up or career? Tua’s record perfectly matches his shitty stats against winning teams. What’s Mahomes and Allens records compared to the stats you put up? In other words, they might make big plays to win the game, or in Allen and Jackson’s case, they may run for a 100 yards and score 3 TD’s. There’s nothing false about my argument, it’s iron clad as any Dolphins fan who watches this team knows, when we play good teams, Tua SUCKS!!!!!!!!

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Mike, that is from the game logs in 22 & 23. We can’t just look at the career because it is well over average at 101.4 and does’t differentiate between “good teams & bad teams”

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      he had a 124.9 rating in a loss against Buf last season and 114.2 in a loss to Green bay and 97.9 in a loss to Az

      We lost the buf game to a last second FG, we lost the AZ game to a last second FG and we lost the GB game failing to score with less than 2M left when your hero Jonnu got caught holding and we started the drive 1st & 20 and Tua went 7 of 8 completions but ran out of time on a free run sack….

  45. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Last season Tua only had two games that his rating was under 89 (Dan the man’s career rating was 86.4) those games were the first Buf game (56.7, but he had 124.9 in 2nd game) and Hou 60. Every other game he played he had a 90+

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      124.9 has to be incorrect, Tua doesn’t play good against good teams🤔

      Houston’s front 7 beat the hell out of us upfront, making life difficult for Tua, I’m sure Allen still would’ve gone off though

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        Oh, I am soooo sure tooo! LOL

        Allen had a 56.4 rating against Hou in a loss last year, but let’s not let facts fuck with our narratives. LOL

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        Now that’s not possible!! Tua had a better rating that Allen against the SAME competition!?? No, not possible, didn’t happen Right?

  46. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Every former player seems to have a 2 cents on the culture of cupcake’s team

    why they feel that need us beyond me

  47. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I see Allen pretty much as i perceive Mike does, as if he’s great every game

    he plays that way against us and we can’t seem to get it out of our heads

    Like Mike it clouds my impression of Tua, where we’re different is I can take things Tua does very well and see him for what he is instead of what he isn’t

  48. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    with or without Ramsey back we need to let our inexperienced CBs swim or sink

    Douglas fell off a cliff, ASJ has injury concerns…

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/buffalo-bills-free-agent-refused-sign-dolphins-rasul-douglas-christian-benford-nfl/23428aa2d047469b5969a152

    thank God he refused to sign with us

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      He’s a mainly zone CB who’s lost a step. There are other teams who need a vet presence/upgrade at CB. Apparently, no other team feels like Douglas would upgrade them to include Arizona who I said yesterday their top 3 CB’s are 2 rookies and a 2nd year player.

  49. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    unless Zach Wilson can pick up the MM offense effectively in camp (he’s struggled with it so far) I’d hope MM would change the O for him, if Tua gets hurt

    other teams dumb down the O for young starters all the time, why can’t MM work in camp with Zach for a few of his type of strength plays

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I personally think Wilson does not make the team and Ewers is QB 2

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      after writing my previous post I could kick Grier square in the ass, thinking of him paying Tua so much, being a system fit QB in a system no one else runs (maybe SF, but they have their QB)

      he should’ve told Tua we’re giving you 40m per yr, if you don’t like it find another team who’ll pay you more and we’ll talk

  50. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The funny thing is I am NOT a Tua stan. I just disagree with BS assessments because they are BS. They (“They” being Tua haters) keep moving the goal posts on the kid.

    He’s got a noodle arm and can’t throw the long ball. – Tua proceeds to lead the league in deep passing (oh, but that’s his receivers, not him)

    Tua’s not a leader – Tua organizes and leads off season workouts with his WR’s and then calls them out during the season when they aren’t playing right.

    Etc, Etc, Etc.

    Yes, I still think Justin Herbert had / has better physical qualities. (but I don’t think he would do as well in THIS system as Tua)

  51. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    When asked about our OL last year Tua joked, he didn’t need them to be good, because he gets rid of it so quickly

    joked being the key word, every QB needs a little time to do the things they need to do

    wonder what the pompous ass Grier thought of his comment at the time

  52. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ Rock – You’re comparing Marino to Tua? You think maybe the different era of football might have a little something to do with QB rating. Listen, Purdy has better stats than Tua, is Purdy better than Tua?

  53. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    How can anybody look at this team and think there is any sort of leadership at the top? So, Tua asking guys to come in and practice is leadership? BS. Tua calls out other players? Really? Then why do they still play like shit and lie about their commitment? BS. All I ever hear for why this guy can’t get it done is blaming everybody else. BS.

    Saying shit doesn’t make it true. Tua is paid to win. That’s today’s NFL, like it or not. Go out and shut your doubters up. Go out and give me a $50M performance and win big games. Until then….you ain’t all that.

  54. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Ken, I don’t think Zach Wilson gets released. If so, that is another huge blunder by Grier as Wilson’s entire 6m contract is guaranteed.

    His cap hit is only 2.2m this year because Grier spread out the remaining of his signing bonus out over 4 years through to 2029.

    I would hope MM would have a little Zach Wilson package. The stuff he is good at and not expect him to come in and be Tua in the same system. If not, MM will have proved again he is not HC material.

    That’s where MM fucked up last year thinking Thompson could come in a be Tua in the same system. When that didn’t work they brought in Huntley and tried to create a Huntley package on the fly. That didn’t work either.

    MM better have a plan/package in place for Wilson or we are doomed again if Tua gets hurt. Probably would be doomed anyway

  55. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    BTW –

    Marino was 8-10 in the playoffs

    Brock Purdy is 4-2 in the playoffs

    Tua is 0-1 and 1 no show!

  56. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I just want to start feeling like this team is on the right track to winning a championship. Isn’t that the point? I don’t care if Tua is great or not. I want whatever he is to help us win a championship. I’m sorry, but I’m just not seeing it. Really from just about everywhere in this organization. It sucks.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      last year they talked about culture change after Poyer called them out, after all the player acquisitions, so not really a change and coming off of a playoff season

      this year the change is not just talk, but types of players drafted and thru FA

      will anything really change? We’ll see

      what else do we have at this time of year, but hope? I’ll wait until their true colors show during the season to bitch

  57. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Randy – 100%

  58. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – Buffalo to me in the 80’s and 90’s were the AFC’s version of the SF 49ers

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Minus the championships

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Yep, but I think they were just as good as that Niners team. So well balanced, great on offense, maybe even better on defense.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      today’s Bills are more dangerous with Allen, than those 80s and 90s teams

      those teams had no competition from AFC and why the NFC won all the SBs

      either way both were very good, you had to beat them to win, they weren’t giving you anything

  59. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    When Tua’s career is over, which basically could be any day now, no one will be like “Hey, remember Tua Tagovailoa, he was a great QB”. No one says that now except you delusional fanboys, but ask other fans around the NFL and Tua’s at the cusp of 11-15 right now.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      11-15, that’s a lot of Championships🤣

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Mike E,

      That is where you and I strongly agree: “When Tua’s career is over, which could be any day now.”. Period.

      We’re going to be forced to move on from Tua sooner rather than later due to his concussion history… or perhaps even his hip injury history.

      I say let the haters hate and let the fanboys fan… it doesn’t matter at this point unless modern medicine — coupled with AI — can magically reverse past injuries.

  60. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    we’ve had no QB since 1999, other than a couple of 1 hit wonders, that did anything

  61. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

    One other thing that I’m surprised you aren’t acknowledging: how are we to win big games once our Offense becomes 1-dimensional? And this isn’t just last season (ALL YEAR), but it dates back to ’23 when key starters on both our O-Line and RBs were out.

    If ya can’t run the ball, opposing Defenses can just pin their ears back and play (as they did last season) 2-deep Safeties to negate ‘Reek and Da’ Penguin as deep threats.

    Injuries have DECIMATED us the last several years, especially on the O-Line.

  62. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Best QB since Marino, a shade better than Tannehill in my opinion. Tannehill actually won a playoff game when he left. Maybe Tua will too

  63. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    What started the Tua conversation?

  64. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’m going to tell y’all another thing, and it’s not some BIG secret. If Coach McD is fired, the new HC in ’26 is going to want to hitch their wagon to their OWN hand-picked QB… whether it be a FA QB they’ve worked with in the past, or drafting one early in the ’26 Draft… likely the latter.

    As the Phins go this season, as do Coach McD and Tua… and possibly Chris Grier.

    Regardless of how one feels, I’m rooting for our Phins to win this season.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I know, I know… some are thinking, “Don’t threaten me with a good time!”, regarding the firing of Coach McD, GM Grier, and QB Tua! 😆

  65. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I still take our beloved Phins pretty seriously, but not nearly as much as I used to. Why? There are world events taking place right now that put things in a greater perspective.

    Arguing about our Phins seems trivial in comparison, and I hold all of you in high regard.

  66. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Better thief character?

    Jimmy the Hand (DukeJames of Krondor)

    or

    Silk (Prince Kheldar of Drasnia

    Discuss –

  67. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – a lot of times in big games it’s hard to run the ball. We haven’t really been a dominant run team and weren’t built to be that team. This was an aerial attack for better or worse with Hill and Waddle. This is how Grier built this team, and McDaniel had to sign off on it for sure. He thought his boy could do it all, he can’t. I think we could potentially be more balanced if Savaiinaea and Daniels are really good, along with Paul and Jackson doing their part, but we were never a physical team and don’t expect us to be one this year either. Do you?

  68. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rock – don’t know the udder guy but love Jimmy the Hand

  69. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Here’s one you fantasy guys may not have read. “The Deed of Paksenarrion”. It’s basically a book about the path of a woman becoming a Paladin. Quick, easy read. I really enjoyed it.

  70. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tasselhoff Burrfoot. Old school. Respect.

  71. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I prefer Silk to Jimmy, but props to Randy, and I agree, Tasslehoff is the best.

  72. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I never liked DragonLance. I was always a Forgotten Realms or Grayhawk guy.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Although I read all of them back in the day. It is a shame now. You can’t find MANY of the old D&D novels (forgotten realms, greyhawk and Dragonlance novels) anymore. Lots are out of print. RA Salvator has republished all of his in the Drizt compendiums, but the originals I cannot find “new”

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      DragonLance was my introduction to fantasy; the Chronicles and Legends trilogies will always hold a special place in my heart.

      I really liked the first seven or eight hundred Drizzt books, but kind of just stopped reading them after the millionth time he and Artemis Entreri fought (I almost added Entreri as one of my favorite thief characters).

      The Forgotten Realms Avatar series was cool too.

      The Gord the Thief Greyhawk books started off pretty good, then got ridiculous when he became the most powerful being in the universe. I’m not sure I have read any other Greyhawk series’.

  73. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Roland Deschain was a favorite of mine. Not sure I’d classify him as a thief, but he was a great character

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I read most of King’s stuff, although I’m not a huge fan of his writing because his endings always suck, but Roland is a great character. The Dark Tower series is one of the few things he’s written where I actually like the ending. It’s so nihilistic (at least I interpret it that way). I loved it.

  74. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    if a new HC comes in next year Tua will be his QB, says the 79m dead cap figure

    after 2026 16.8m dead cap

  75. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    sorry to break up your Dolphins blog with the book of the week club. LOL

  76. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I’m not sure who is my favorite between Silk and Jimmy The Hand. Eddings and Feist writing styles are so different it makes head to head comparisons difficult.

    In Feist’s books Jimmy reappears over decades (and several different series) from his appearance as a 9 yo precocious pick pocket to the second most powerful man in the kingdom, Duke of Krondor.

    While David Eddings Silk appears in 6 or 8 books, but the time lines are much more condensed into two adventures. I love the thieves network (unnamed) in the Belgariad and Mallorean where everybody seems to know him or know of him, even when he is a master of disguise. Similar to but different from the Mockers in Feist’s books.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      When I was younger, I absolutely loved Eddings. He was the 2nd fantasy writer I found after Weiss and Hickman. The Belgariad and Mallorian, I’m pretty sure I read all 10 books in about 2 or 3 weeks, and reread them numerous times. But as I aged and read more, I found I had a bit harder time going back to his stuff. He overpowers his protagonists too much.

      The Belgariad, Mallorian, and Elenium all have the same general plotline: the heroes get together, travelogue it, take turns showing off their prowess and absolutely destroying the bad guys along the way, reach the big bad at the end of the series, and win easily with one party member dying. He even cheats at the end of the Belgariad with Durnik so none of the good guys die, lol.

      I’d still put the Belgariad as a top 5 original fantasy series though. Actually, just talking about it, I may start read it again tonight, lol. It’s been ages.

  77. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I didn’t like King’s Dark Tower series. It may have just been the time in my life when I read it though. I’ve read most of King’s stuff as well as his Bachman books. They all seem to blend together in my head. (perhaps because they all happen in little NE towns) I read nearly all of them, but only once. (Eddings, Brooks, Feist, Salvator & Jordan I have read through multiple times each.)

  78. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    steveccnv

     says:

    June 24, 2025 at 3:07 pm

    if a new HC comes in next year Tua will be his QB, says the 79m dead cap figure

    after 2026 16.8m dead cap

    ———–

    Ooops! Yup, I forgot about that fact… good call.

    Alright, Tua will still be with us, but if a new HC comes in next year, he’s drafting his own QB to hitch his wagon to and he’ll sit behind Tua until injury or failure.

  79. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Well that made catching up easy 😂

  80. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E.

     says:

    June 23, 2025 at 9:24 pm

    M – a lot of times in big games it’s hard to run the ball. We haven’t really been a dominant run team and weren’t built to be that team. This was an aerial attack for better or worse with Hill and Waddle. This is how Grier built this team, and McDaniel had to sign off on it for sure. He thought his boy could do it all, he can’t. I think we could potentially be more balanced if Savaiinaea and Daniels are really good, along with Paul and Jackson doing their part, but we were never a physical team and don’t expect us to be one this year either. Do you?

    ————-

    Good post, sincerely. Here’s what I can tell ya…

    Coach McD came up with one of my favorite guys of all-time in Mike Shanadouche (LOL) in Denver. Coach McD was THERE when a much younger Gary Kubiak and the “Godfather of the ZBS” Alex Gibbs were saving Shanadouche from himself.

    Most of the Shanahan tree comes from Bill Walsh’s WCO: it dictates (if not mandates) a LEGIT running game. Coach McD bounced around in life a bit until Mike’s son Kyle Shanahan took him on as a full-time coach. Coach McD’s last official position before he became our HC? Running-game coordinator… and he was VERY successful.

    So after Coach McD’s first season in Miami as HC, he made a promise to his running back room. He said that he’s going to get the running game going, instead of a pass-run ratio that was something like 7:3 or in the ballpark of as much (I’m not going to do the homework).

    He made good on the promise, but it broke down late in the ’23 season due to injuries to our O-Line, Mostert, and Achane. We suddenly couldn’t run at will and understandably so. It didn’t help that both ‘Reek and Da’ Penguin were banged up late in ’23. We faltered down the stretch and ended up having to play KC in KC with -30 degree windchills… we never had a chance being we already couldn’t run at that point. T-Stead was playing on one leg, Connor Williams was already out for the season, Robert Hunt was barely healthy at the time, and we’d already lost Isaiah Wynn for the season.

    Enter ’24 and we allowed Robert Hunt and Connor Williams to walk, Isaiah Wynn was still injured, we ended up losing Austin Jackson for the season, T-Stead was still playing on one leg, and we were left relying on the likes of Eich and Robert Jones to start. We added Aaron Brewer, but he couldn’t/can’t anchor as our Center.

    In short, we totally neglected our O-Line as Chris Grier laughed at the fanbase regarding our concerns on the O-Line… he wasn’t concerned, not one bit! SMH

    So to answer your question, YES! I EXPECT our O-Line and running game to be physical! That’s what Coach McD came from since day 1, he should know better, and wonder why it’s taken so long to fix the O-Line… after 20 MFing years!!!

    Do I expect us to be one this year? I DO. At LEAST this FO decided to go BIG on both sides of Brewer. All I asked for were 2 OGs who are fleet of foot and meet my standard of 320+ pounds, being Brewer can’t anchor… I got my wish in James Daniels (my fave OG via FA) and Big Jonah (I’d have preferred Wyatt Milum, OF COURSE).

    We’ll see what happens, my man! All I know is that we won’t be able to run if we don’t have a legit O-Line. And if we can’t run, expect more 2-deep Safeties to neutralize ‘Reek and Da’ Penguin. And THAT is why we need Jonnu Smith as an insurance policy.

    If Darth Paul takes the next step and Austin Jackson returns to form, I believe we could possibly have an incredible Offensive season.

  81. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Rock, have you read David Gemmell? Druss the Axeman and Waylander, the Drenai books? I really enjoy those stories, Waylander is one of my favorite characters.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      This has probably been asked and answered before, but I don’t remember so it didn’t happen, lol.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Yes, I enjoyed David Gemmel a lot. I think you might be the one who turned me onto him because I read his books since Covid was not aware of him when I was younger.

  82. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M- ok pal, hope you’re right! That’s all I can say.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Mike E, ME TOO, MAN!!! I hope I’m right!

      No guarantees on my part, but if we can run, I think we can be incredible on Offense.

  83. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Forgive me for saying as much, but I’ve always felt the WCO is a ‘gimmick’ Offense. That’s not to say it doesn’t work (it DOES!), but it’s just sooo systematic… ‘plug & play’, if you will.

    THAT stated, I think it’s amazing what Tua’s been able to do, even when opposing Defenses know what’s coming once we become 1-dimensional out of necessity (injuries).

    I believe the WCO can work…. but ONLY if it’s hitting on all cylinders. Tua is NOT Dan Marino… but neither is anybody else.

    ONLY Marino could put a team on his shoulders despite NO running game and NO Defense and deliver a winner.

    Wins are not a QB stat, either. It’s always a TEAM win.

  84. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    This woman walks up to our front desk , probably early 40’s, attractive. She says in these exact words. “This thing keeps coming in my eye”. I was about 2 feet away writing up an order and had to walk away before I blurted out “Your husband?”I had to walk away I had this huge smile on face and I was sure I was going to break out into a laugh I couldn’t control. That was crazy funny!

  85. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E.

     says:

    June 24, 2025 at 9:45 pm

    C’mon M, you would have thought the same thing? Am I lyin’?

    ——–

    I actually would have played around with her, she having said what she said. But I’m single! I can get away with that type of banter! Good on you, Brother, for resisting the temptation. Dana should be proud! #Respect

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      HOWEVER, if I’d seen a wedding ring on her finger, I’d have done EXACTLY what you had done. I will NEVER be a marriage-wrecker. I respect marriage, unlike so many today.

  86. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim and ar E,

    Have you guys heard that Space Balls II and the Naked Gun remake are soon to come out?

    Liam Neeson is going to be Frank Drebin Jr in the Naked Gun… what?!!

  87. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Happy Gilmore 2 as well 👍

  88. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Despite the 2 early ints last year against Buffalo I felt Tua was on to something, he was moving the ball at will, then our 2 diminutive WRs decided they’d take some plays off

    Tua got hurt trying to make a play (sure it was stupid, but I can’t blame him for the effort), after others gave less than full effort, I mean we were playing the Bills for fuck sake we needed all hands on deck

  89. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Tua is not releasable next year but he is tradeable.

    PRE-6/1 TRADE

    2026 Dead Cap: $45,200,000

    2026 Savings: $11,200,000

    POST-6/1 TRADE

    2026 Dead Cap: $13,400,000

    2027 Dead Cap: $31,800,000

    2026 Savings: $43,000,000

    That said, Steve is right, Tua isn’t going anywhere next year (unless he medically retires). Though 2027 is a whole different story.

  90. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    DT Christian Wilkins, who is still recovering from a Jones fracture that ended his 2024 season in October, was seen with a left foot boot last week. Wilkins was at voluntary organized team activities earlier this year, but did not participate in drills. Head coach Pete Carroll said in May that Wilkins was “in the midst of a long, challenging process.”

  91. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    @gmfb

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    @T_Armstead72

    breaks down his Top 5 Nightmare Pass Rushers ☠️

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  92. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    LOL, I’m beginning to see some well-known pundits say that if our O-Line is fixed, we’re going places this season (provided Tua stays healthy). Well NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!

    C’mon, now! It didn’t take a ‘rocket surgeon’ to figure that much out. And if our DF7 is all it can be (looking forward to Mike E’s write on it this Friday), we could be DANGEROUS!

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      LOL @ rocket surgeon

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I was at a party once a while back and met my ex ex-wife’s uncle for the first time. During the conversation, I made a comment that something was pretty simple. It’s not really rocket science. Then a little bit later in the conversation, I asked him what he did for a living He was an NASA engineer and worked on the space shuttle program. Specifically, the booster Rockets …..

  93. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    M13,

    That’s interesting because all I’m hearing and seeing from people talking about our team is negative shit. Most are predicting at least MM is gone after this season and possibly Grier. I’ve heard predictions of 8-9 wins if we play well because we have a fairly easy schedule. NFL employed “media” always hype every player and team. I never listen to them. They’re bought and paid.

    Given, I don’t read or listen to much these days. I’m sure others consume way more stuff than I do.

  94. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    BBM continuing his search of WR’s to watch this year as possible 3rd or 4th round pick.

    Trebor Pena is another one, 6’0, 184, 4.4 forty, last year, 84 rec for 941, 9 TD’s, 12 rush, 72 yards, 1 TD.

  95. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I am looking forward to seeing what Malik Washington can do it this year. Last year he caught 26 passes for 223 yards and wrapped up 25 yards on five carries. Most of that came in the last four games of the year
    i’m looking forward to seeing what he can do when he hits the ground running already knowing the offense and having experience with Tua etc.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      if Jonnu is traded Malik and Ikhine will assume many of his targets, but neither is Tua’s best friend (guy that catches passes at the LOS and bullies his way to a 1st down)

      Ikhine would replace the inside the 20 Jonnu

      sure would be nice to just have Jonnu

  96. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Rockphin,

    Up here in PA, the terms of ‘brain surgeon’ and ‘rocket scientist’ get thrown around a lot. I decided to just mesh the two together as ‘rocket surgeon’, LOL

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