On to Rounds 2 and 3

Our Picks

Round 1, Pick 14 (14th overall) – Devante Parker, WR, Louisville

Round 2, Pick 14 (47th overall)

Round 4, Pick 15 (114th overall)

Round 5, Pick 13 (149th overall)

Round 5, Pick 14 (150th overall)

Round 6, Pick 15 (191st overall)

The Best Available Oinks

TJ Clemmings (OL)

Paul Dawson (LB)

La’el Collins (OL/Potential Murder Suspect)Preston Smith (Edge)

Daniel Hunter (Edge)

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  1. Rhino says:

    boulder and piggy: Maybe Freeman plays an outstanding preseason game… and we trade him to a desperate Houston for a future pick….

  2. Tim Knight says:

    Bat, until you see Phillips be lazy in the NFL as a Dolphin why go there? His talent is top 10 quality. That’s sometimes what 2nd round picks are, guys who fell for whatever reason.

  3. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 1, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    Bat, until you see Phillips be lazy in the NFL as a Dolphin why go there?

    aaahhhh cause he can. and he just can. come on, it is all opinion, why not have a differing one and some fun here. if we really were to just wait in see then we should be talking about this draft 3 years from now. not tonight.

    • jahndoh says:

      Tim gets to ask those questions just like Bats gets to deride the guy right? Why are you getting involved?

  4. bat says:

    Piggy ..That BR article was written before we signed Suh, which I believe eliminated the need for a back flipping, dunking fat guy…

  5. finfanrob says:

    bat would have been happier if the fins just picked parker again in the second round. just to make sure everyone knew the fins picked him.

  6. Mike E. says:


    I know this because Brian, Piggy, Ken and I went to NYC to watch the Ravens game, and the next week was the blowout against the Patriots. I don’t disagree that the defense sucked, but we did get Suh. The O-line remains as is, and we’re not even sure if Albert will be ready, or even able to play well this season. I don’t like that risk, especially with Thomas and Turner at G. I’m juts being honest, I’ve felt this way for quite some time, you know this.

  7. Rhino says:

    good pick for Atlanta

  8. finfanrob says:

    roger saying, with the fins second round pick the pick parker again just to make evil happy.

  9. bat says:

    Tim …Every single scouting report on Phillips lists being lazy, unmotivated and taking plays off among his weaknesses ..Why is it unreasonable to think that he will do the same or worse at the next level where even greater effort is necessary to succeed?

    • jahndoh says:

      I think we both know if I wanted I could find one that didn’t say lazy. “Takes plays off” is the most overused scouting comment on DL every. 50% minimum of DL scouting reports say that.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        That is what I say too

        Show me a scouting report on a 300 + pound DT and I will show you a comment about him being lazy

  10. The Flying Pig says:


  11. finfanrob says:


    here let me try and help. the draft is like going out on the date with a different girl. you think ok, maybe this one will just want to eat wings and have sex. hell maybe she will just say, no no, you eat all the wings then all i want to do later is go down on you. you know it will never happen but you keep dating till you find that woman.

  12. jahndoh says:

    Mike, it’s fine. I told you I was surprised by DL too, but if Fisher was a medical concern, who was there? I do think some of you guys just think you can take any old rookie body and plug him in against the toughest DLs in the league and its’ somehow a guarantee we’ll improve. I think we have a better chance of improving if our starting five get another season under Benton and their names are Albert, James, Pouncey, Turner, and yes, Thomas.

    • Mike E. says:

      I’m sure there’s some truth there in what you say. The guys that i think could start day one may never start a game in their life. it just seems like we needed to do something. Ali Marpet was available, and I think he’s going to be a very good player. I’ll keep an eye on him

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    I guess I am the only one on the Tre Jackson bandwagon

    • D says:

      He looked really bad at senior bowl. Was described as being driven back like he was on roller skates all week in practices

      • The Flying Pig says:

        he looked good throughout his college career

        I don;t gt why we put so much weight in the senior bowl

        John Jerry looked good in the senior bowl too

    • Rhino says:

      perhaps the bandwagon is missing a spoke or two. 😉

  14. D says:

    Yeah we can pick up Collins and they can show his reaction from the baton rouge police department interrogation room

  15. Rhino says:

    saints take Grayson. wow

  16. finfanrob says:

    ahndoh says:
    May 1, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    Tim gets to ask those questions just like Bats gets to deride the guy right? Why are you getting involved?

    having fun is all. you should know that by now besides dont you have a beer to brew of tell some poor slob to start gathering animals.

    • jahndoh says:

      Tim was just supporting the kid, he wasn’t squashing any opposition. Maybe being positive is fun too..for some of us…during the fucking DRAFT…lol…

  17. bat says:

    rob …LOL .. I really would be happier with that …It doesn’t sound as futile and stupid as the Phillips pick …

  18. D says:

    Still lots of good OL. You just have to look past pipe dreams of people who are gone or won’t be selected *cough* mike *cough*

  19. D says:

    Iggy he looked great year before last. Last year he wasn’t very good and FSU fans can tell you that.

  20. bat says:

    “you know it will never happen but you keep dating till you find that woman.”

    rob … So you’re saying we have to draft MORE DT’s??

  21. finfanrob says:

    jahndoh says:
    May 1, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    Tim was just supporting the kid, he wasn’t squashing any opposition.

    i cant believe you have tims back. after he cut down all you growth and killed birds. i just dont get that.

    • jahndoh says:

      Those birds were going to die. I plan on having their family shit on his windshield at some inopportune time in the future. LOL..

  22. jahndoh says:

    Alright. I will wait and see as always, and since I thought the team got markedly better BEFORE the draft, I’m not throwing in the towel because the 2nd round pick wasn’t who I might’ve picked.

    I get the rationale in wanting to have a dominant DL in this division. I also think the OL improved markedly last year, and with Albert’s return and another year under Benton will continue to improve, regardless of if we drafted…who again????….in the 2nd round.

  23. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, what if our OL grade isn’t that high in this draft and we feel there are plenty of similar talents in the 4th and 5th rounds (4)? LOL

    The key to the OL is Albert being ready sooner than later. I think Pouncey, Albert and James are cornerstones to solidifying the OL. We already have like 7 or 8 guys competing for those guard positions. Just because we need it doesn’t mean this draft offers it.

    • Mike E. says:

      I agree Tim – I said that to Jahn. I hope that’s the case, or I really do hope the guys we have can get it done if we don’t look for a G in this draft. It just makes me very nervous going into the 4th RD w/o selecting anyone on the O-line. You know how i felt, you shouldn’t be surprised by this.

  24. finfanrob says:

    rob … So you’re saying we have to draft MORE DT’s??

    yeah, i mean yeah. keep looking till you find the one who will let you eat all the wings. lol

  25. New Age says:

    I like the last couple picks. About time NO started to think of life past Brees.

  26. jahndoh says:

    Fair point on Marpet Mike. We’ll see. His buzz reminded me of Turner’s buzz last year tbh. Both could still turn out to be very good. Here’s hoping.

  27. D says:

    Its sad to see you guys giving up on the team over one fucking pick. I wasn’t my idea if best position pick either but I can’t argue with the player. He’s a good prospect.

    • New Age says:

      Yeah, cant argue that the D imploded so I dont mind the pick. Just hate that we dont get another for a while and have 4 fifths.

  28. finfanrob says:

    jahndoh says:
    May 1, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    Alright. I will wait and see as always, and since I thought the team got markedly better BEFORE the draft, I’m not throwing in the towel because the 2nd round pick wasn’t who I might’ve picked.

    come on jahn, it is just draft banter. i dont think anyone here is throwing in the towel. it is just all everyone yacking that they think they know more then the next guy.

    i wont throw in the towel till tanny throws his first pic in training camp then when then the sky is falling. lol

  29. finfanrob says:

    jahndoh says:
    May 1, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    Those birds were going to die. I plan on having their family shit on his windshield at some inopportune time in the future. LOL..

    lmao so a benevolent god. good thing i am not a god. i would have them shit on him not some windshield.

  30. Rhino says:

    how nice of President Goodell to honor the troops 😉

  31. finfanrob says:

    now there are the ones in the draft we should all be thankful for. our military.

  32. Rhino says:

    jahndoh says:
    May 1, 2015 at 10:23 pm
    Feely Fiedler Feeley?

    you mean… feely, feeled her, freely?

  33. Mike E. says:

    Al sheds a tear as Chris Conley is drafted . . .

  34. Tim Knight says:

    Here’s our likely DL:
    LDE Wake, Shelby
    LDT Suh, Phillips
    RDT Mitchell, A. Johnson
    RDE Vernon, Fede
    JOLB (Jack) Vernon, McCain

  35. finfanrob says:

    jahndoh says:
    May 1, 2015 at 10:25 pm

    It’s all good Rob. I’m just blogging. Don’t read into anything.

    ok me too, just having some fun. i dont even pretend to know what the fins trust knows or hell even every one of you on here. do i think they need to fix he oline yeah but i still also think at some point in time kate upton is just going to knock on my door and say. finally found you.

  36. The Flying Pig says:

    If we are going to trade up
    tjis might be the time

    • Rhino says:

      i don’t see a trade up…. we are gonna use 5 players in rounds 4/5 to find a bunch of Reshad Jones’ 🙂

    • Tim Knight says:

      Why… so we can draft Ellllammma Hosiioschi Begall to backup at LB and win a STs job? LOL

      This draft to me was thin and we’re seeing that. It’s now a sleeper/darkhorse/gem type draft now. Maybe? We’re looking for 2 out of 5 to pan out tomorrow.

  37. finfanrob says:

    i bet poor roger is just hating tuning the daft over to an ex fin

  38. Mike E. says:

    Rhino – I wouldn’t be surprised if Gerod Holliman is one of those picks.

  39. The Flying Pig says:

    Derron Smith, Anthony Harris (pork favorite), Holliman, Amos & Prewitt

    Some good safeties left

  40. finfanrob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    May 1, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    there is a ton of safeties left

    well that would be safe……drops mic walks off stage.

  41. The Flying Pig says:


    look at the commisisoner with that retarded kid now

  42. The Flying Pig says:

    The jests think you only play defense

  43. Mike E. says:

    Jets keep picking D.

    • Mike E. says:

      Eww, just saw they got Devin Smith. Not digging that

    • The Flying Pig says:

      they basically picked the fasted guy in the draft (over some much better wrs) like they don;t know how to do anything but read 40 times and then went back to defense

  44. finfanrob says:


    that isnt nice. i mean without retarded kids the jets would not have any fans

  45. The Flying Pig says:


    there goes Hicks

  46. Mike E. says:

    Jarvis Harrison is a guy I like in the mid to late RD’s, maybe he’ll be a target

  47. Tim Knight says:

    Reshad Jones was a 5th rd pick. Grimes went undrafted (UFA). Not a perfect science. 🙂

  48. Mike E. says:

    Jordan Hicks off the board. Liked that guy too.

  49. The Flying Pig says:

    David Johnson now gone

    great receiving back

    • Tim Knight says:

      Miller and Williams caught 59 between the two of them last year. The answer at every position is not addressed in the draft. Just saying.

  50. Tim Knight says:

    Matt Harvey 5-0, 2.41 off of Tommy John surgery. Wow! LOL

  51. manitobafinfan says:

    I am rapidly running out of names i recognze… i do however see NE with back to back picks this round(Shocking) .. Collins ?? if he is guilty he’d be a fit….

  52. Mike E. says:


    Know who else is still around???

    • The Flying Pig says:

      On the draft board
      Paul Dawson
      Ben Heeney
      Kwon Alexander
      Charles Gaines
      Those safeties we mentioned
      Bryce Hager
      Jake Ryan

      there are good LBs left

      • Mike E. says:

        I just meant Ifoooooooo, but yeah, all those udder guys too

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Ramik Wilson
        Zack Hodges
        Tull & Hull….lol
        we should do allright at LB

        Ladarius Gunter
        Josh Shaw
        Kevin White
        The CB market is getting thing but I like Gaines and Ifo a lot

        Nick O’Leary
        Blake Bell
        Jesse James
        Ben Koyack
        I think we can get a good TE

        Its OL that got really thin, really fast

  53. Mike E. says:

    Wow, I didn’t even realize Sammy Coates was still available.

  54. finfanrob says:

    ok night all. i got the company i want now. chat with you all later.

  55. Mike E. says:

    G’nite Rob

  56. CaliGigi says:

    I want 3rd rd picks…..

  57. The Flying Pig says:

    I guess OD was right about La’el

  58. D says:

    Collins said he is pulling her myself from the draft if he isn’t selected by end of the night

  59. steveccnv says:

    Looking at the value chart and counting comp picks our 2nd was worth 440 pts + our 6th 19.8 = 459.8 (we gave up), we got Eagles 2nd 380 pts + their 5th 33.5 + a 2nd 5th 29 = 442.5.

    Ireland is LHAO. Bottom line is we’re better off with the compensation we got, if you don’t mind losing out on Perryman, who they didn’t like I guess. We’ll see what Hickey’s got for us tomorrow to decide if it was worth it.

  60. Mike E. says:


    How does he do that? If he’s (Collins) selected in RD 4, he won’t accept the contract?

  61. Mike E. says:

    2 picks left to trade, compensatory picks can’t be traded

  62. D says:

    Fuck there goes my late round rb selection

  63. steveccnv says:

    Here comes the pick of Collins to the cheats

  64. manitobafinfan says:

    Mike: The CBA states that any player who does not sign with the team that drafts him can be selected by any team the following draft.

  65. D says:

    Regarding Matt Jones.

    1 team viewed him as the draft’s top back. For real RT @AroundTheNFL: With the 95th pick, Washington Redskins select running back Matt Jones

    From ian rappaport

  66. steveccnv says:

    Cheats traded out

  67. jahndoh says:

    I don’t think you can technically pull your name, but I think you can just refuse to sign. You sit out the year and you get to re-enter the draft the following year. Every couple of years when 1st rounders hold out they’ll threaten to do this.

    I’m not sure it’s so smart though. If he gets drafted early tomorrow he’s not going to be guaranteed to be a round better next season, and this is a business predicated on youth. He’d be delaying his chances at a 2nd NFL contract which, for most draftees, is where you make your money. It almost never makes sense to sit out a year, and furthermore, I know GMs HATE that.

    They’re not going to pony up for much more draft compensation on him a year from now, even if he is totally and completely vindicated (which is different and less likely than him just escaping charges and not being able to rehab his image too much).

    • Mike E. says:

      Plus he’ll be out football for a year, unless he goes to the CFL

      • jahndoh says:

        Exactly, and if you were going to play in the CFL for that pay, why wouldn’t you just develop in the NFL for 5x the money?

  68. Tim Knight says:

    Gigi, Kenny Stills is our 3rd round pick. Only 23 years old with two seasons of experience and proven production. Look at his numbers. Yes Drew Brees threw to him but he still had to do his part.

    • jahndoh says:

      I’d rather have him for us than any player that was available in the 3rd round for us. He’s one of those guys that would SURELY be an early 2nd rounder if that draft was redone tomorrow.

  69. Mike E. says:

    Thanks Manitoba!

    • D says:

      Apologies mike I heard them wrong but I did hear them say he could not be drafted, so I thought meant pull out of draft and go in next year

  70. steveccnv says:

    We should take Collins in the 4th.

  71. jahndoh says:

    Interesting that the Pats traded their pick. I sort of relish the idea of getting 4 shots at players with Reshad Jones potential. I don’t know Hickey/Tannenbaum’s history with the 4th and 5th round, but the Fins recent history in those rounds is actually pretty good.

  72. D says:

    Dawson gone

  73. steveccnv says:

    If Collins is involved in the murder why would he be saying anything about not playing for a team if picked after the 3rd? Before he makes a dime it will come out if he’s involved.

    • jahndoh says:

      I’m playing devil’s advocate with my answer, but the answer I thought of is:

      You get a chance at getting signed this year to the best contract possible and drag the trial out long enough to actually see some of that money…and that’s better than not seeing any of that money.

      in other words, you’d do this in only 2 circumstances:
      1) you’re 100% certain you’ll be exonerated
      2) you’re 100% bluffing.

      • steveccnv says:

        And when it goes to trial before he signs no team would sign him. If it goes to trial after he’s signed there will be stipulations in the contract that let the team off the hook, if he’s found guilty of a felony. I can’t imagine him being charged of the murder is going to take longer than a month or two.

        Any way you look at it the team will never pay him a dime, if he ends up being found guilty of a felony such as manslaughter or higher.

  74. olddolphan says:

    MIKE E; Mu spirits took a major hit when FLORIDA ATLANTIC’s star DB, D’JOUN SMITH, went to the Colts with the first pick in round 3. –He SURE would have looked great in a Dolphins’ uniform!!–But, Mike, you were right about him going well before Miami’s 4th round pick.–KUDOS to you. (“MY” spirits took a major hit.)
    STILL smiling about the Lightning’s upset win in Montreal tonight in DOUBLE OVERTIME!! –Just a CLASSIC, nail-biting, playoff game!!!
    NOW let’s get Tanny some O-Linemen WHO CAN START THIS YEAR!! –This Old Dolfan is OUT for tonight. –PEACE to all of you!

  75. jahndoh says:

    I have argued that the football value of drafting Collins from this point (on) is very good, but in truth D, the reality is, in the current NFL and society, you simply can not draft a guy who is currently being questioned in the murder of his pregnant girlfriend.

    None of that is passing judgement, even if it turns out he’s 100% vindicated and exonerated, what I just said is still the reality we’re faced with.

    • Mike E. says:

      Yes and no. Greg Hardy is on the Cowboys, so it happens. They talk about that on NFL Radio, when he comes back, him and Gregory blah blah blah. If.when La’el Collins is exonerated, it won’t make a difference. If he’s guilty, you look bad twice though.

      • jahndoh says:

        There’s no murder trial though. That’s a HUGE difference between the two situations. This is about public perception…and as bad as it was for Jerry Jones when he signed Hardy (and it’s been BAD), it would be so much worse in Collins’ case.

        I really think it’s about public perception- unfortunately.

    • D says:

      You realized I was arguing to NOT take him right? I don’t want anything to do with a guy suspected questioned or whatever for murder of anyone but yeah even worse its a pregnant woman who is his baby momma

      • jahndoh says:

        I do. You do realize that I directed this at you because earlier today I was defending the notion of drafting him right? 🙂

        I did the 180, but I know where you’ve stood all along. I’m just acknowledging reality instead of theoretical. If public opinion didn’t matter he’d be well worth a 3rd or 4th rounder IMHO. But it does matter. For better or for worse.

  76. Tim Knight says:

    Jahn, just remember that Ireland drafted for the 2001: A Space Odyssey. LOL

  77. D says:

    Look I don’t care what kinda player Collins is, he’s baggage we don’t need. Next year if he us back in the draft and fully exonerated draft him then. No need to chance drafting a potential murderer. Its OK Collins isn’t the only player out there and tbh he isn’t as good as most of you have given him credit for being anyways

  78. Mike E. says:

    What time is RD 4?

  79. manitobafinfan says:

    Two of the picks NE got from Browns are 2-3 picks in front of us in both 4th and 5th.. rd 4 we have 15, they have 2/12/ and 32 …rd 5 we have 9/13/14 they have 11..

    • steveccnv says:

      Value chart shows the Browns got an additional 4.6 pts of value, but the cheats got 3 players vs 2.

  80. manitobafinfan says:

    Have a good one people i am out…

  81. jahndoh says:

    Peace Manitoba. Probably all you guys are going to drop like flies. Cheers!

  82. jahndoh says:

    One more positive thought before too many of you East siders log off:

    With our investment into our analytics department this offseason, the 4th and 5th rounds are truly going to be the rounds where we have the best advantage over our rivals. I’ll never argue they are better than a 3rd rounder, but I will remind you that if you can get even value (important, ie..the compensation is right) and trade back into the round where you have an advantage..it’s smart poker.

  83. Mike E. says:

    Goodnight Manitoba! I’m out as well, work early tomorrow! Peace, and GO DOLPHINS!

  84. jahndoh says:

    Steve you may be right above. But the truth is in the event he’s guilty (hypothetical discussion of course!), all he has to make is a DIME and the gambit was worth it.

    • steveccnv says:

      I would think a late 3rd for him would be worth it, the teams must know something we don’t.

      • jahndoh says:

        I think they know what I just said. You can’t do it when you’re dependent on the fickle public for you financial support. There are always gamblers, but even if one were to step up in the 4th, I’d still argue the consensus take is what I just laid out.

      • jahndoh says:

        Also Steve, this isn’t my original thought, I heard it on the radio, teams don’t know anything because it’s an ongoing murder investigation and the local PD is locked down tight with the information.

  85. Tim Knight says:

    We have a 4th and four 5ths tomorrow. I predict two OL, a LB and two DBs just to help the crew survive. LOL

    Let the competition begin. 🙂

  86. jahndoh says:

    Kinda curious Steve, what do you think is going on? You seem to think he wouldn’t have made that statement if he was guilty, but you said teams must know something we don’t.

    Kinda curious on your take?

    • steveccnv says:

      He’s going back to take a paternity test, maybe it’s just a technicality, but if he did do something I’d think he’d know if the kid was his or not. Maybe he has to prove it to the authorities.

      It’s really hard to have a strong opinion with no evidence either way. I just can’t believe he’d go to the draft, if he did do something, but the guilty always seem to act like they were no where near the place when the incident occurred.

      I can’t get off the fence on this one, did the NFL tell teams not to draft him?

      I don’t know any more than anyone else does in this case, my point was I think it’s worth the risk to spend a 4th on a guy that has first round talent, knowing even knowing he may never play a down for you. As Jimmy Johnson would say a guy drafted in the 4th round is a risk too, because of his skill level.

      • jahndoh says:

        I get ya, and that’s why earlier I said for football reasons it would make sense. But I honestly believe all these owners are making decisions for business reasons which includes appeasing fans.

        The NFL ordering teams not to draft him would be illegal, but that doesn’t mean there couldn’t be collusion. The owners afterall ARE the NFL. They could have a handshake agreement, but I doubt all 32 of them would be in on it. 32 people and their staffs (GMs would have to know too) are too many people to keep the secret quite.

        However, a memo from the NFL could have easily “reminded” teams of the new rules about domestic violence and the heavy suspensions via a memo or something. I’m sure the message would be understood.

  87. Tim Knight says:

    If you follow NFL.com rankings it’s like 100+ at 5.2 – 5.9. How much better is one over the other really?

    He weighed 4 more pounds, jumped another inch, ran 0.000000009 faster. LOL

  88. Tim Knight says:

    I think we need female reinforcements. LOL

  89. CaliGigi says:


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