By: Randy Campbell (OLD DOLFAN)
GAME 13: DEC. 10, 1972 – MIAMI at NEW YORK GIANTS
The New York Football Giants were founded in 1925 by original owner Tim Mara with an investment of $500. Mara installed the word “Football” in the team’s legal name to differentiate them from the older, established, baseball Giants. Both Giants teams played at the Polo Grounds. The Football Giants went 11-1-1 in 1927, securing their first NFL Championship. Following the 1929 season, Tim Mara transferred ownership of the team to his two sons to insulate the team from creditors. At the time, Jack and Wellington Mara were ages 22 and 14, respectively. Steve Owen became the Giants head coach in 1931. From 1931 to 1948 the Giants won 8 divisional titles and 2 NFL Championships (1934 and 
1938). Jim Lee Howell replaced Howell in 1954. In 1956, the Giants, playing their home games in Yankee Stadium for the first time, dominated the Chicago Bears 47-7 in the NFL Championship Game. For that game, played in icy conditions, the Giants wore sneakers, just as they had back in 1934 when they defeated the Bears in THAT title game. The 1956 team included future Hall-of-Famers Frank Gifford, Sam Huff and Roosevelt Brown. The Giants coordinators were Tom Landry (defense) and Vince Lombardi (offense). In 1958, the Giants lost an overtime classic to the Baltimore Colts in a title game some refer to as “The Greatest Game Ever Played.” The following season, under new coach Allie Sherman, New York lost again to the Colts 31-16. From 1961 through 1963 the Giants would lose three straight NFL Championship games. Overall, from 1927 through 1963, the Giants were in an amazing 14 NFL title games, winning 4 and losing 10.
The 1970 Giants squad started 0-3 but rebounded to finish 9-5, narrowly missing the playoffs. In 1971, injured star running back Ron Johnson missed most of the season and the team slumped to 4-10. The Giants traded quarterback Fran Tarkenton back to Minnesota for QB Norm Snead. Snead would have his best season as a professional in 1972, leading the NFL in completion percentage. Running back Ron Johnson, back from injury, set an all-time Giants record by rushing for 1182 yards in 1972.
Head Coach Don Shula understandably was concerned about facing this very strong Giants team on the road. Just two weeks ago, the Giants had destroyed the Philadelphia Eagles 62-10!! Shula and defensive coordinator Bill Arnsparger agreed that forcing turnovers would be one way to slow down the Giants’ scoring machine. In practice sessions, the defense practiced stripping the ball away and forcing fumbles with big hits. And defensive backs were urged to play for the interception. On offense, Shula got some good news. All-Pro receiver Paul Warfield’s arch injury was significantly better. Warfield, who had caught only one touchdown pass all season, was determined to be at his best in this, the next-to-last regular season game of the year.
A huge contingent of New York media members were present to see if the Giants could end Miami’s dream of a Perfect Season. Even a few hundred Jet fans bought tickets to this game hoping to witness a Dolphins’ defeat.
Sharp passing by Norm Snead keyed the Giants’ first drive. Ron Johnson’s 1-yard touchdown run gave New York an early 6-0 lead. Pete Gogolak’s PAT was no good. Miami responded with a very impressive 80-yard march. Mercury Morris ended the drive when he scampered around the corner, stayed in bounds, and scored from 12 yards out. Yepremian’s extra point gave Miami a 7-6 lead. Later in the opening stanza, a crunching hit by Mike Kolen led to a fumble recovery by Doug Swift. Garo Yepremian’s 37-yard field goal put the Dolphins ahead 10-6 at the end of the first quarter.
Another Giants turnover gave Miami the ball in the second quarter. On 3rd and 9 from the New York 34, everyone knew a pass was coming. Warfield, the likely target, drew double coverage. After blowing by Willie Williams, Warfield put an all-world move on Spider Lockhart and blew by him just as Earl Morrall released a perfect deep pass. Warfield caught the ball in stride and scored a most impressive touchdown! Miami now had a solid 17-6 lead. The Giants desperately wanted to score before halftime. Another impressive drive led by Norm Snead got the ball deep in the Dolphins’ end of the field. Ron Johnson’s second one-yard touchdown run pulled New York to within 17-13 at halftime.
Continued steady rains turned an already messy field into a second half quagmire. Temperatures were in the 40’s and it was windy. The hard-hitting Dolphins’ defense, combined with very sloppy conditions, produced SIX GIANTS’ TURNOVERS! At the end of the third quarter, the score remained 17-13, Miami. Giants’ (and Jets’) fans knew that one big play could turn this game completely around. Emphasizing the run, Morrall drove Miami down the field in the final quarter. Some nice runs by Morris put Yepremian in position for a 31-yard field goal attempt in the slop. Garo’s kick was GOOD!! Miami had a 20-13 lead. New York’s sixth and final turnover set up Miami inside Giant’s territory. Yepremian’s chip-shot field goal CLINCHED a 23-13 victory for the wet, tired, but very happy Miami Dolphins! On the day, Miami rushed for 204 yards on 41 carries (a 5.0 average) and passed for 171 yards (132 of them to Warfield). The six turnovers produced by the “No Name Defense” were the key factor in holding the high-scoring Giants’ to just 13 points.
In seven days, the Miami Dolphins would have a date with destiny in the historic Orange Bowl. The entire nation would be watching their final regular season game against the Colts.
The 1972 Miami Dolphins were now 13-0.
Finsmob Unleashed 
This one, as are all of them, is very well written, concise yet exciting. Thank you for giving us these accounts to inspire us as Dolphins fans and to get us pumped for this intriguing next season.
I’m always impressed with the detail you present in this series, OD. Thanks for this great effort.
New Age (from previous blog re: GoT),
I will give you his ability and desire to go into detail on the seamier side of life is one of the draws to his story. Occasionally it seems gratuitous, but I accept he has an obligation to present his world as he sees it.
BEFORE I HEAD OFF TO WORK I want to thank Naples Fan and Try Pod for your kind comments. And any of you other posters, my sincerest thanks to you, too. This has been a labor of love, as I’m sure all of you can see.
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I’m slowly coming around to Mike E’s point of view regarding the 2015 Dolphins. –The potential signing of Collins COULD be the move that puts Miami into the playoffs. But before we over dose on Kool-Aid, these Dolphins, and their coaching staff, have to “SHOW ME!” Here’s hoping they do JUST THAT!!
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ENJOY “ABSOLUTE PERFECTION” Dolfans everywhere!! – – What a great day this is going to be!
IS ANYONE ELSE IMPRESSED by the fact that, in 1925, $500 would get you an NFL team in New York City???
That’s crazy, because now, that doesn’t even outfit a single player with uniform, shoulder pads, helmet etc . . .
That’s also the cost for 4 pretty good seats to one game.
Great stuff, OD. Man every one of these I read the “No Name Defense” seems to cause a ton of turnovers.
Perfection as usual OD! Very well done. I will admit that despite the fact that I’m from NYC, and I’ve heard the New York Giants referred to as the New York Football Giants, I never actually considered that it was their real name. Thanks for that interesting fact.
Same here. I’ve heard them called that for a long time but I just figured it was a nickname to differentiate them from the baseball team.
This is one of the great things that OD brings to these articles, history on a lot of levels.
Absolutely, and he does it so very, very well. He makes it about as interesting as it could possibly be, enjoyable to read.
Just one game away from a perfect regular season
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Great job taking me back in time OD
Piggy – Do we need something for tomorrow?
Yep
I’m on a pork hiatus until next week
Got anything lined up?
Son may have something for Friday?
I’ll write something today
https://twitter.com/southflasports/status/595942766200418304
Why would it be, they’re allowed to have friends. They’re not team officials.
No more against the rules than the Foot Soldier being in NO to meet him.
Less against the rules than Rexafootsaurus meeting with him.
I just wanted the pick
I don;t think the players meeting with La’el was against the rules
and the article comes close to confirming that
I love the enthusiasm here about Collins
I’m not sure I’ve heard so much about an OG being the missing piece before though
I have to admit, it makes us look good on paper
but you have yo consider – every team in the NFL is going to want Collins and I bet half a dozen other teams make a push like we are going to make.
This sort of thing is unprecedented. You rarely get a young top 10 draft pick without actually using a pick – not to mention for cheaper than it would costs a top 10 pick
So everyone wants themselves a little Collins
Miami has a lot of selling points though
the one disdavantage is not being able to offer him a chance to start at LT
and for a player that will hit the free agent market in 3 years again – that is quite the disadvatage
being a playoff team is probably more important than everything miami has to offer.
If I was collins I’d sign with a contender.
Piggy quick fly by over
Busy day today!
Later Piggly!
Boulder – I think the Dolphins ARE a playoff team with La’el Collins
dolphins might be in the mix for a wild card spot at the end of the year like they were the last couple of years. They won’t win AFC east.
There are plenty of other teams that have a much better chance to get to the playoffs than the dolphins.
I am worried Collins may elect to stay home and sign with the Saints.
Or he may want to get away from there.
I guess the giants might send beckham to meet with collins. I’m sure there is interest from every team in the NFL.
Not surprised.
New Age,
I can’t believe I forgot to put Rothfuss on my list. He’s a fantastic story teller. I can’t wait until he puts out the third book in the Name of the Wind trilogy sometime in late 2045, lol.
Kong,
If you like Steampunk, Read the Deepgate Codex trilogy by Alan Campbell.
Try,
I don’t really dig scifi too much although some of the older stuff like Asimov’s Foundation series and Dickson’s Necromancer are a couple of exceptions I can think of off the top of my head, but I’ll definitely give that series a look.
Even if you don’t like it lol. It’s an amalgam of styles, though SP is a portion.
First book synopsis:
Suspended by chains over a seemingly bottomless abyss, the ancient city of Deepgate is home to a young angel, an assassin, and a psychotic murderer hungry for revenge or redemption. But soon a shocking betrayal will unite all three in a desperate quest…. The last of his line, Dill is descended from legendary Battle-archons who once defended the city. Forbidden to fly and untrained even to wield the great sword inherited from his forebears, he has become a figurehead for a dying tradition. Now he lives a sheltered existence in one of Deepgate’s crumbling temple spires under the watchful eye of the Presbyter who rules the city. Spine assassin Rachel Hael has better things to do than oversee the Presbyter’s angel. Each dark moon she must fight for her life among the city chains, hunting an immortal predator with a taste for blood. But when a traitor brings enemies to Deepgate’s doorstep, Dill and Rachel are forced into an uneasy alliance with the city’s oldest and most dangerous foe. They must journey down into the uncharted chasm to save their sprawling metropolis and themselves from annihilation. Once they descend however, they learn that what lies below is far more sinister than what they’ve been taught to expect.
I think I just walked in on a book club. LOL
How fortuitous that you’re wearing your cargo shorts.
LOL
Try,
Looks interesting, I just ordered it of Amazon. I’m always looking for new stuff to read, thanks.
So, how about those Dolphins?
“Armand: Al, you old son of a bitch! How ya doin’? How do you feel about that call today? I mean the Dolphins! Fourth-and-three play on their 30 yard line with only 34 seconds to go!
Albert: How do you think I feel? Betrayed, bewildered… wrong response?” The Birdcage
LOL! great scene. RIP Robin Williams
Albert: “…wrong response?”
Armand: “I’m not sure…”
LMAO
“In seven days, the Miami Dolphins would have a date with destiny in the historic Orange Bowl. The entire nation would be watching their final regular season game against the Colts.”
Love that writing OD. Starting to wonder if ABSOLUTE PERFECTION refers to the ’72 Dolphins or your series itself. And the Giants for $500……man if that was the buy now on Ebay right now.
Collins would be a huge score for us (assuming he’s innocent) but I think teams are going to get very creative in their offers to him. No doubt there will be a lot of wink, wink, nudge, nudge going on and promises made. The Pets are the kings of slick underhanded BS so it wouldn’t surprise me if they nab him somehow.
Kong, I wish I could wear cargo shorts to work.
Lol, me too. I would love to wear shorts and flipflops. If I hear the term “business casual” one more time I’m going to quit.
LOL
“It’s also possible the Dolphins could play Collins at tackle and move Ja’Wuan James to guard, though there’s no indication that is being considered.”
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article20297928.html
I don’t see that.
The two negatives for us in the La’el hunt are if he either wants to play T (which potentially means more cash long-term) or to jump right onto a primed SB contender.
He supposedly said he’s open to playing any position. He wasn’t projected as a LT in the draft, it was guard or RT.
He did say that pre-draft, but then he was thinking he’d end up with a first round guaranteed contract after it was over too.
I don’t think being a playoff team or contender is even close to a factor
Its whether he will start
and where he will start
and probably if he thinks the prospective team is a good setting for him (weather, $, teammates, ho the organization is run)
Vets want to play for superbowl contenders
He is not the average free agent
it really doesn’t matter if a team is on the cusp or not
during his year a team on the cusp now is likely to change by the end of his career
Agree.
If he joins Miami I believe he will most certainly be LG then in a year or so the Fins will waive Albert (if he doesn’t agree to restructure) because they can’t afford to keep him at a high price.
Pretty sure Albert’s contract was set up so waiving him until two years from now wouldn’t make sense. But then we did wave Wallace in a year it made no financial sense too……but that was a bit different.
Assuming ins true that dolphins part ways with Albert in 2 years
I don’t think you can use this as a selling point to Collins
Its seems somewhat disloyal
We have to sell Collins on playing OG in Miami
So he has to be on board with that
He has to want to play next to Albert and Pouncey when its said and done
Mike E,
The Dolphins are a playoff team without Collins 🙂
THIS PUNK ASS MIKE E KEEPS DOUBTING MY SKILLS
LOL, I think he’s in the mix to compete as a starting guard.
Nice observation by Florio:
“the Wells-led investigation into the #DeflateGate scandal has now consumed more time than the investigation conducted by Wells regarding the Dolphins bullying scandal. In Miami, Wells’ work was done in 100 days; his latest project is at 103 days and counting……..whether the Patriots deliberately deflated footballs used during the AFC championship game against the Colts would seem on the surface to entail a far less complex set of facts. ”
A nice prediction too:
“the ultimate bad-news dump comes in 16 days: The Friday of Memorial Day Weekend.”
Boulder
I don’t think Collins is in a must win now mindset
He hasn’t even played a down int he NFL…lol
I think being a playoff team or not is irrelevant to him
Although he probably wants to be a part of a good organization and a winning tradition is usually part of that perception
He is probably going to make the decision based on what is best for him 3 years from now
He would probably take a scenario where he starts on a bad team before one where he doesn’t on a good team
Collins basically has to make up for lost time
LOL
https://gma.yahoo.com/snorkeler-mistakes-fake-skeletons-real-human-remains-sends-225308816–abc-news-lifestyle.html
Stanger, 2017 wouldn’t be so bad releasing Albert.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/branden-albert/
I agree. Was just saying it wouldn’t make sense in 2016. So assuming Albert and James are healthy, we really can’t offer Collins the promise of playing T till then. Might be that some team can say, come to us and you are a bookend.
Im more convinced he retires soon than we cut him. He is another knee injury away,
Any of you attorney’s catch this yesterday?
It’s interesting, but you can work around. And the court does have a point, the commissioner is not unbiased. If I wanted to protect against it I’d set up an independent arbitration panel in the next CBA. And those don’t necessarily have to be as “independent” as the word suggests.
lmao, i did mention yesterday about frivolous lawsuits. this one is priceless
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sylvia-driskell-vs-homosexuals-ambassador-for-god-files-lawsuit-against-gay-people-in-the-us-10228965.html
Sylvia Ann Driskell is an idiot and wasting people’s time being an idiot. May and anvil fall out of the sky and put her to sleep for good.
Here is my analysis of the La’el situation.
Priority 1, money. He missed out on a lot of it and every dollar at thispoint is precious. This is where the state tax thing will definately be in play. Seattle, Miami, Jax, TB, Dallas, Houston, Tenn. are our competitors.
Priority 2, position he plays, so next contract will be biggest. Two arguments here. 1st,OG have a lower ceiling, but if he is elite there he can easily hit the ceiling on his first contract and i think would be an easier road to elite status than LT where you go against some of the best talent on defense. LT offeres a higher ceiling but would he hit that on his first contract, im not as sure as i feel he would at OG. Either way i can still see him as a LT here even if he starts year 1 at OG. Albert is one injury away from being retired, its going to happen before too long i fear. I thinnk he is out LT and therefore gets that opportunity as well from us as anyone. We have Albert, Tenn has Lewan who was a first round pick last year. TB has Donovan Smith (this year top of the 2nd round), Jax has Joeckel (1st round last year), Houston has Duane Brown, 1st round 2008, Dallas has Tyron Smith 2011 ist rounder who just extended, Seattle has Russell Okung 1st rounder 2010, recently extended. I would pose that with his injury history, out of all these younger talented LT’s, we have the best chance for him to start at LT as any of them, our LT like the rest is pro-bowl caliber, but he has a deep injury history and is older than all the rest of those teams ilisted.
Priority 3, growth potential and comfortable work environment, living environment. He has familiar faces at all these teams but with ours there is more. I see us having an advantage here as we have 3 recent teammates, and its Miami for crying out loud, who doesnt want to live here..
Priotity 4, playoff/SuperBowl potential. Seattle obviously tops this list, followed by Dallas, but after that we are next.
Summing up all these though i find us at the top of the list in every category but the last one, and that one we have potential that in his tenure here we can get it for him as well. Either way i think we are a very attractive landing spot. Im not getting hopes up because i still feel something is there thats keeping him from being fully cleared, and im not sure he does get cleared, but if we do pursue him i think we should feel confidant we will be a high consideration.
Great analysis D. The one thing I’ll add in is that I think he has to start from day one, as much for pride as the UDFA comp money. That leaves him limited in choices. Don’t think he steps in as a LT except for a bad team. And at this point, not so sure if there is that much difference btwn a top OG and a RT unless we are talking franchise money……and RTs don’t get franchised anyhow.
The whole tax angle is a bit complicated and only probably relevant for high end athletes receiving super contracts. I don’t think taxes will factor much into Collins’ decision as to where he plays.
D,
My personal opinion is that Collins will place a premium on opportunity (open position to compete in at OT or OT) and coaching credibility (proven coach/team).
I think the Fins should give a fellow LSU tiger an opportunity just to entice Collins LOL
I’m talking about UDFA OL Fehoko Fanaika who remains unsigned I believe.
Wonder who is making the list ….
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/sources-agents-for-lael-collins-informing-teams-as-list-narrowed-down/
Wow I didn’t know you fargin bastiges could read more than a one liner?
I wish David Eddings would start writing again! 😦
He is one of my fav’s
I don’t think I’ve read the Malzan series? I’ll have to check it out
Eddings died several years back.
I also liked him, but after the Tamuli series, his wife became too influential in his books and they became light, silly fluff.
piggy,
being on a playoff team does matter to him because he gets paid more if his team gets to the playoffs. I’m sure that’s part of consideration.
That’s another angle I didn’t think of (playoff pay LOL).
Found this article from last year that talks about it
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24396663/agents-take-a-guide-to-nfl-postseason-pay
its not much but for a UDFA probably matters.
Andrew Abramson retweeted
Mike Rodak @mikerodak 3m3 minutes ago
Rex asked about La’el Collins three times. Uncharacteristically quiet about that situation, says he’ll leave the conversation private.
Jason La Canfora retweeted
Mike Rodak @mikerodak 4m4 minutes ago
Rex on La’el Collins: “I did have dinner with him. That’s really the extent of it.”
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet now1 minute ago
Classic. RT @mikerodak: Rex asked about lobster appetizer. “That’s a false report… I did have gumbo.”
what about the foot massage for desert?
LOL!
La’el: “Is that you touching my foot under the table?”
Ryan: “No, don’t be silly”
Rex knows he might get in trouble for the dinner, least from a PR standpoint.
This one blows my mind. It’s LeSean McCoy on Chip Kelly.
“You see how fast he got rid of all the good players. Especially all the good black players. He got rid of them the fastest. That’s the truth. There’s a reason. … It’s hard to explain with him. But there’s a reason he got rid of all the black players — the good ones — like that.”
Guessing at training camp when camp the locker room isn’t going to look much like the stands for a Charlie Daniels concert.
What about getting rid of the good white guys like Nick Foles? Hard to explain too i guess for him.
Guessing he goes to the “good black players” (which would include him) cause black players overall won’t prove his point. Do they have a white RB or something?
No some guy named Sproles took away his carries.
Boulder,
In the article it talks about being able to generate almost $200k in post season play pay which would be ~36-38% of season pay for a guy earning only $500k (as Collins would be). Not to mention the ‘experience’ factor teams put on guys who have been playoff tested.
sorry I missed that. That’s a lot more incentive then.
The opportunity for Performance Based Pay far outweighs the opportunity for playoff pay. 385k for a guy who ends up starting all season for PBP less than 200k for playoff performances.
The analysis that needs to go along with this is: Where’s the best opportunity for him to start (period, the talk of LT vs. G money is way premature, and top FA OGs are making nearly as all but the most marquee LTs in the league) along WITH the opportunity for playoffs. Taxes is a smaller consideration IMHO. It COULD be the difference between a team like the Giants and a team like the Fins.
Thats what i was saying before is OG’s pay scale it rising due to the important of having an elite one to fend off elite DT’s. Its around 8-8.5mil per right now if you were to leap to the top of the OG scale. Probably will be nearing 9-10mil next year, when some really stud players are up for FA.
Tim Knight says:
May 6, 2015 at 12:09 pm
Sylvia Ann Driskell is an idiot and wasting people’s time being an idiot. May and anvil fall out of the sky and put her to sleep for good.
tim, yep, but lets hope it is a homosexual anvil too.
LMAO!!!!!
just wondering how much more money this kid can make if he just sits out the year and re-enter next years draft vs being a UDFA, if any
He cant enter next years draft. He only can sign as UDFA
To have re-entered next years draft, ironically he would have had to be drafted first and then not sign his contract and hold out until next year.
I’m talking about UDFA OL Fehoko Fanaika who remains unsigned I believe.
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Id bring him to camp just cause hi name is awesome.
Miami Dolphins @MiamiDolphins · 1h1 hour ago
Go behind the scenes at @MDCheer Auditions.
WATCH: http://oak.ctx.ly/r/2xt6z
Great behind scenes at @MDCheer Auditions….there i fixed it.
a total class move. no wonder he works for tnt and not the new england sports channel
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25175977/video-ernie-johnson-gives-his-emmy-to-stuart-scotts-daughters
Dosie Doe @DosieDoe · May 3
Pigs would have a much longer lifespan if they weren’t made out of bacon.
D says:
May 6, 2015 at 1:04 pm
He cant enter next years draft. He only can sign as UDFA
well that is just fine. first i mention about him suing the police department and now entering the draft and i am told both times to just STFU and just go back to the chaining NLC’s to my sofa.
Miami Dolphins @MiamiDolphins · 1h1 hour ago
Go behind the scenes at @MDCheer Auditions.
all that is there is a bunch of ass
Interesting seating arangements
wyoming85 says:
May 6, 2015 at 1:10 pm
Dosie Doe @DosieDoe · May 3
Pigs would have a much longer lifespan if they weren’t made out of bacon.
lmao W, i saw that tweet today and thought piggy would love it
Rob I saw it when you re-tweeted
Andrew Abramson @AbramsonPBP · 3m3 minutes ago
Wells report: “It is more probable than not that Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities.”
deflategate report is out. Brady is in hot water
Adam Schefter
1 min · .
Crux of Wells Report: “In particular, we have concluded
that it is more probable than not that Jim McNally (the Officials Locker Room attendant for the
Patriots) and John Jastremski (an equipment assistant for the Patriots) participated in a deliberate
effort to release air from Patriots game balls after the balls were examined by the referee. Based
on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady (the
quarterback for the Patriots) was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of
McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls.”
Wow
I hope the NFL has the guts to give him the pete rose treatment
Don’t be silly.
Pats fans and their “G.O.A.T.” crap… now Tom Lady is a real goat.
Wyoming…. Rockets fans and Warriors fans got a little slap of reality the last two days. 😦 Dubs in 6, Clips in 6…. Dubs over Clips in 6. The Eastern Conf? who cares. 🙂
Rockets looked like they were sleep walking!
SMMFH
Where is Texas are you living. I am near Corpus Christi. I go to Houston a lot during the summer to work at Rice and catch the A’s at Astros. I’m surrounded by Spurs and Rockets fans. Gotta say… Rockets look like they are STILL a legit PF away from being a contender.
I guess LeSean McCoy is an idiot.
Yeah thats some stupid shit he said.
No way he gets banned for life from football or kept out of the HOF for letting air out of the balls. I could see suspension and fines.
I’m tempted to find a Pats blog and see how they spin this news. lol
Andrew Abramson @AbramsonPBP · 1m1 minute ago
Tom Brady refused to provide investigators with phone records, texts, e-mails, etc
He shouldn’t be allowed to play until he provides them with what they’re asking for.
Rhino
I’m outside of Beaumont in Bridge City
But I was in Houston for the Rockets Championship years
Rhino, is Corpus Christi nice? I always think of Texas as more old west etc. even though I know it’s not all like that, but Corpus Christi has always been a place I wondered about.
I guess Tom likes his balls soft
Have a big job coming up in Ingleside!
Don’t know if that is were they will send me or not?
Also worked the Oxy-Chem jobs in Ingleside in the late 80’s – Early 90’s
Rhino says:
May 6, 2015 at 1:38 pm
I’m tempted to find a Pats blog and see how they spin this news. lol
lol that is so cute. a bit naive too. that you actually think pats fans know how to read and type
lol it’s hard with those mittens on.
Tim, Corpus Christi is just a cowtown next to the ocean. LOL
With some world class fishing!
The Rockport flats are one of my favorite places to go!
LOL
Wyoming… lived in Beaumont for one month… back in early 90’s… glad to have left. 🙂
Bridge city is more Vidor than Beaumont! 😉
“For the reasons described in this Report, and after a comprehensive investigation, we have concluded that, in connection with the AFC Championship Game, it is more probable than not that New England Patriots personnel participated in violations of the Playing Rules and were involved in a deliberate effort to circumvent the rules,” Wells concluded. “In particular, we have concluded that it is more probable than not that Jim McNally [the Officials Locker Room attendant for the Patriots] and John Jastremski [an equipment assistant for the Patriots] participated in a deliberate effort to release air from Patriots game balls after the balls were examined by the referee.
“Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady [the quarterback for the Patriots] was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls.”
How odd that this report came out after the draft …just a coincidence I’m sure … Does Kraft still expect an apology? … Roger is going to have to really twist himself into a pretzel here to avoid any serious punishment for the Cheats.
wyoming85 says:
May 6, 2015 at 1:40 pm
Andrew Abramson @AbramsonPBP · 1m1 minute ago
Tom Brady refused to provide investigators with phone records, texts, e-mails, etc
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For not fully cooperating in the investigation he should be considered fully culpable ESPECIALLY considering he was the one to directly benefit from the whole thing. Should be suspension on the horizon which means he should be OUT for the game against us in September.
Other than Cheatriot fans, does anyone really believe that the AFC championship game was the first time they pulled this crap to give Tommy Boy an edge?
No, of course not. The Ravens reportedly experienced the same thing.
Goodell couldn’t sweep this under the rug …the Spygate tapes were taking up too much room …
Those were put into the evidence storage furnace. LOL
This will wind up being a monetary fine like the Jets got for the supposed tampering regarding the signing of Darrell Revis.
Yep and that’s the easy way out.
Wyo, what do you fish for in the Rockport flats?
Speckled Trout, Redfish, Flounder
Redfish tailing in the spring is awesome!!!!
Cool!
fuck the NFL if it’s only a fine. Brady needs to get suspended for a couple of games.
LOL. These guys hate the lady more than we do
Jastremski wrote “Tom sucks. im going make that next ball a f—in balloon.”
McNally replied: “Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done…”
McNally, apparently not a fan of Brady’s (or at least his level of attention of air pressure) made several references to pumping the balls up to “watermleon” or “rugby” size, since Brady preferred softer ones for better control.
Prior to the next game, McNally wrote: “The only thing deflating sun..is his passing rating.”
The Pats should be forced to play with these balls all season. LOL
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the NFL is considering discipline for Tom Brady as a result of “DeflateGate.”
The Ted Wells Report painting an ugly picture for Brady and equipment personnel Jim McNally and John Jastremski, who are also facing discipline from the league. Meanwhile, it appears coach Bill Belichick and owner Robert Kraft will skate free. It’s possible Brady will be watching the Week 1 opener on his couch with LeGarrette Blount, who was suspended two games earlier this offseason.
One game for cheating eh?
That would b e very lame of the League!!!
Should be on same level as PED since its a violation of rules to gain an advantage.
Barry Jackson on Twitter
LSU G/T La’El Collins wants to sign with a team that will allow him to play tackle.
Collins is drawing heavy interest after going undrafted last weekend. The Baton Rouge Police should clear Collins’ name in the murder of his ex-girlfriend shortly, allowing Collins to sign with a team. Playing tackle will help maximize his earnings on a second contract since he won’t be getting paid much the first two years in the league. The Dolphins would seem to be longshots to land Collins with this news, being that they already have LT Branden Albert and RT Ja’Wuan James.
Thats a conclusion drawn by the reporter, it didnt say Collins says “blah blah blah make me a tackle blah.”
it was a long shot before this news. Now its a really really long shot.
so now he’s kissing garapalos ass?
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 27m 27 minutes ago
And for the record, if you think the Patriots would fall apart without Tom Brady you’re sadly mistaken. Jimmy Garoppolo is a bad man.
LMAO, WTF has Garoppolo done? I thought Omar had QBR, TD/INT ratios, Yardage, Win/Loss levels & Kills to obtain before he can possibly endorse a QB….SMH, What a Tool !!!
He’s always looking to stick it to Dolfans one way or the other. His new name should be Captain Douche.
Garoppolo was someone i really liked for us that year until he started shooting up the draft board and wound up a 2nd round projection. When i was pulling for us to take him was when he still projected as a 5th rounder.
Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL 1m1 minute ago
If you’ve read the Wells report and are still denying deliberate deflation known by Brady, you’re basically “fake moon landing guy”
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LOL!
The Patriots deflate gate memes are rolling through via twitter LOL
Belichick is basically the NFL version of the Teflon Don if he gets away without any discipline.
I felt and still do that Brady had to know, but i also felt that if Brady knew, Belichick knew, i dont think owners are so involved as to know details like this so i believe it when they say Kraft wasnt involved.
D says:
May 6, 2015 at 2:47 pm
Should be on same level as PED since its a violation of rules to gain an advantage.
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Not to mention that there is probably a stronger correlation to W-L via fumbles (historically low fumble rates observed from the Pats vs all other NFL teams during the deflate gate defined period) than there is for PED usage by any player.
Lol that would be some killer data mining to come up with that….
Omar not only says asinine things but if you ever see one of his interviews he acts the shit out as well when he is verbally saying it. I would have fucking throat punched him had i been in that co-hosted piece that Hyde was in with him yesterday. Hyde comes of as pretty fucking stupid, but at least he doesnt make you hate him in first minute of listening to him like Omar.
Rand Getlin on Twitter
Jameis Winston is reportedly “pushing hard” for LSU T/G La’El Collins to join the Buccaneers.
Better than both Donovan Smith and Ali Marpet, Collins would be a huge addition to Tampa Bay’s roster. Coach Lovie Smith also has a long track record of taking chances on players with “off-field concerns,” although we’re not sure there are even any off-field concerns with Collins. Per Yahoo’s Rand Getlin, Winston has called Collins “multiple times” in the last 24 hours.
Lol next up, Bucs make Winston take down the “Murder for Crab legs images from his twitter account”
I said this back when deflate gate came to light. If i were Tom, i would retire as a giant fuck you to Belichick who even then was showing he intended to throw Tom under the bus. Win without me then you arrogant shit, ill be at home making a career out of fucking my Victoria Secret model wife….
D,
Didn’t you see this back in January?
http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/the-new-england-patriots-mysteriously-became-fumble-proof-in-2007
Yeah i saw it. I think there is no denying its an advantage, but it would be hard to reference it to what it would be in relation to a person on PED’s does for their team, because well you dont have any data for the ones that dont get caught and the ones that do dont play.
I guess Seattle is the only model to go by in consideration of their higher than normal PED caught usage LOL.
Winston is pulling out all the stops in order to woo Collins…..
GDP,
I wonder if Collins can suit the police department.
I think that the way they played it, and the whole reason the PD didnt name him as an official suspect makes it alost impossible to sue him on any level. Had they called him a suspect, which indicates pretty strong evidence already towards involvement, they might could get sued if they didnt actually have the evidence to support it.
I’m sure he can handle the tab from Men’s Warehouse 😂
Jamil Douglas demonstrating how he deflates footballs
GDP I think omar likes to piss phin fans off to get more clicks.
Agreed. But not sure how more hits on Twitter benefit his paper. When he’s talking about hip hop and sneakers, what benefit is it to anyone? Just because people tweet with him does not mean they buy the paper or pay attention to advertising on the site.
agreed. But he seems to think the more followers he has the more valuable he his
Of course Belichick knew. There is nothing he doesn’t know about his team. He also has no problem lying. Anyone who thinks he didn’t know is a silly person.
lol at you guys expecting tom shady to be punished. did you not see the wording
“Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady”
‘more probable than not’ they didnt even have the balls to say that he knew. they left it like that so his bitch boy roger can just say without positive evidence there is nothing he can do. 103 days or whatever to come up with ‘well we think this but arent sure’ isnt that the same fucking thing we knew before they started the investigation. just another pure bullshit scam be the Newengland Football League
Most the time even when its not a guy like Collins the PD will not name a person a suspect until they are just a few pieces of evidence away from bringing him in. Its a tight rope walk of sorts when they change the status of a person from questioning, to person of interest, to suspect. Each stage comes with different levels of evidence supporting moving to the next. Id say from way its been reported, they probably have a bunch of suspicions, but not enough evidence to move to person of interest even, but they also havent named any other persons of interest so it may be a while before they release anyone from being a person they need to question further. They would be done with their questioning right now if all they wanted was just a few things cleared up. The fact they need to keep going back and questioning more isnt good. It may be they think he knows who did, it could be that they think he is indirectly involved, who knows, but its not good that in almost a week now they see enough to not write him off as involved.