Game 2
Miami Dolphins @ Jacksonville Jaguars
(Header from CBS Sports)
On the Road Again
It’s week 2 and despite a less than stellar start in week 1 against the Redskins, the Dolphins are 1-0 and again are on the road against the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jaguars have 4 players ruled out on the injury report and several more dinged up. For the Dolphins, only Dion Sims is ruled out, with Cam Wake, Reshad Jones and Derrick Shelby as questionable.
Dolphins
Jones, Reshad S Hamstring questionable
Shelby, Derrick DE Eye questionable
Sims, Dion TE Concussion Out
Vernon, Olivier DE Ankle probable
Wake, Cameron DE Hamstring questionable
Jaguars
Armbrister, Thurston LB Back questionable
Branch, Andre DE Knee Out
Cyprien, Johnathan S Finger/Calf doubtful
Evans, Josh S Illness probable
Gerhart, Toby RB Abdomen doubtful
Gratz, Dwayne CB Ankle Out
Greene, Rashad WR Back probable
Joeckel, Luke OT Ankle questionable
Lee, Marqise WR Hamstring probable
Marks, Sen’Derrick DT Knee Out
Thomas, Julius TE Hand Out
I’d like to see the Dolphins come out looking prepared and ready. I’d like to see them play 4 full quarters of football and dominate. And finally, I’d like to be 2-0 at the end of this game.
No live chat today. It’s better to have everyone able to participate.
Finsmob Unleashed 
The Flying Pig says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:31 pm
No, I let it go
Try it out
no one is paying attention to you anyway
lmao, yet you let it go. you are really making me laugh tonight. you are on a roll tonight
We have a lot of talented players , we should be seeing better results. Lots of plays by lots of players cost us huge. Jennings drop comes to mind early, OV personal foul late. And many others we did enough badly today to spread the blame everywhere. It is starting to become clearer that the playcalling on both sides is not getting it done.
Ken says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:28 pm
I don’t know what more Tannehill could have done today. He was running for his life in the 4th quarter. Jason Fox was a turnstyle. Not really sure where his opportunity to win the game for us was. It seemed to me Tannehill, Landry and Matthews where the only guys making plays for us and in the 4th quarter Jax just decided to sell out and rush Tannehill every down and our OL couldn’t handle it.
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I’m not saying he didn’t play well, but he din’t play well enough to win. He missed a few receviers who were WIDE open, and he shouldn’t be missing on those throws at this stage of his career. He held the ball too long on that sack near the goal line, he’s got to get rid of that sooner (Fox was part of that problem I know). There was a free play in the 3rd or fourth quarter and what does he do? He throws it about 5-7 yards out to the left for a minimal game instead of taking a shot down field. Again, I’m not killing him, but he needs to make those types of plays. That is what will separate him from being a good QB to a very good QB.
Every QB even the Mannings Bradys and Brees of this league miss an open WR probably a couple of time every game. I think there was only one pass he really was off mark on today. The pass to Jennings in the 1st quarter. He missed Cameron at one point too but he was about to get crushed and probably rushed that throw a little bit.
New Age … Agreed .. Having to rely on winning that one play even when matched up against the dregs of the league is a huge part of the problem …
GDP,
Luck took his team to the AFC Championship with a poor OL last year.
‘I’m not saying he didn’t play well, but he din’t play well enough to win’
yes that is true, just like it is true for every player and coach.
One thing this team does well is the short yardage run play defense. Goaline and less than 1 to go we are stout.
Its those damn 3rd and infinities we suck at
LOL, I actually had more confidence on those short plays than the 3rd and 7-9.
They do a lot better with that than they do with 3rd and 10 or more. Why that’s the case, I have no idea.
Notice how they kept focusing on that corner who had never played before? If that was Brady he would have attacked him on his very 1st play in and again again. Instead with us the only attention that kid got was chasing down Tanny for an Inc.
They meaning the announcers, yes. Why WE didn’t focus on it, meaning Lazor, Philbin and the Dolphins, I can’t imagine why.
I’m struggling with these thoughts:
Are our players not as talented as we think they are? Or is it simply poor coaching? Both? I do wonder if losing Kacy Rodgers is affecting this line, but it wans’t that good towards the end of last year anyway.
I’m having the same struggle. We keep shuffling players in and out and the results stay the same it’s got to be the coaching, right? We still have a lot of season left but if this shit continues I’m all for firing all three of them
Yup
Stills was a good player with NO. He’s invisible here so far. Suh has not suddenly turned to shit . Is RT Rodgers or Manning no but he is better than a lot. This leaves me with game planning and play calling
Mike E. says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:33 pm
I’m with New Age and Ken. There aren’t a lot of QB’s I’d rather have.
exactly. there is only one rogers, shady or manning. tanny is about like the rest of the group of average qb’s. you really think wilsons 4ints in the nfc championship game is what got them to the SB. this team has a lot of other problems they need to fix before fixing tanny
Playing like crap against Washington and somehow stealing a win was fools gold and enabled the sense of complacency that led to today’s embarrassing debacle.
that is true
silver lining is you want to have those mistakes early int he year to build off of
But we can;t have that in the division
and that is our next game
Next two games
finfanrob says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:37 pm
‘I’m not saying he didn’t play well, but he din’t play well enough to win’
yes that is true, just like it is true for every player and coach.
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Oh I know. I’ve said many times that everyone is to blame. I’m not absolving one player though…
Brian,
I know….with an assist from a crap division….Luck is good, & all QB’s have rough days.
But when your QB is 108 QBR, 68% passing for 365 yards, no INT’s…that should equate to a WIN, no matter if you’re playing the super bowl champs each time.
It reeks of huge failure everywhere else vs. the few scattered failures by Tanny on a play here or there.
I hear you
To me the real problem was giving up that FG at the end of the 1st half. That swing when Franks missed a 42 yarder and then with 18 seconds Jax gets themselves in position to try a 58 yarder and they make it. Inexcusable imo. That is where the game was lost.
That certainly didn’t help
we should have scored a TD instead of settling for a FGA
we would have taken the lead
Instead they score and go up 20 -13
We keep missing opporutnites like this one
Hey, we only gave up 1 more point in two games than the Patriots did just today
WERE GOOD
bat says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm
Playing like crap against Washington and somehow stealing a win was fools gold
that isnt true. washington beat the powerful SB champs, (well like 10 years ago) rams today. so at least we know the fins should beat those powerful rams
Howie, you made a good point on our coaches Philbin/Lazor, not calling plays to go after that practice squad graduate covering Juice 1 on 1….I said the same thing real time….I was like WTF, are the coaches that ill prepared???
Apparently they are!
yes MikeE the announcers (good catch)
Friggin Brady would have been all over that the instant that dude got his butt up from the bench
I agree. Shame on us
Ken … As inexcusable as that sequence was, we were still in a tie game with a less than average team midway through the third quarter. Forget anything that happened up until that point, teams that are to be taken seriously win that game.
I think that is the real issue
the score was tied at 20-20 for most o the 2nd half and we didn;t capitalize
ocalahowie says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:44 pm
Hey, we only gave up 1 more point in two games than the Patriots did just today
WERE GOOD
lol, yeah, now if we could just play the pats for 16 games.
I think one of the biggest problems we have is the stupid running out of the shotgun all the time and not having a FB on our roster. It makes a huge difference in the run game. I just don’t get why we don’t have a FB on the roster. Not one. I hate that.
and only 2 TEs
Its a finesse roster
I screamed that all day….and until it changes….we will continue to lose games!
I also screamed it last year every week….smh
ken,
not that i pretend to know football in any detail. but it isnt like they have the o line to line up under center and just pound the ball.
Ok guys, I’m out. I’m incredibly frustrated not only because we lost, but we look like the same fcuking team with the EXACT same problems we had towards the end of last year. I guess they were banking on Suh being able to change that but obviously that is not the case. I really wish they would have fired Coyle during the offseason. Maybe we could have had someone come in who could coach the supposed talent on this team. Goodnight all.
G’nite Bri
Bat:
I get that that we tied up the game but in breaking down what happened at the end of the half it was a six point swing. Franks makes that kick and then Jax likely doesn’t get their FG. Ball game. You can’t have mental mistakes like that with 18 seconds left in the half and we made a huge mental mistake on the PI call. It was stupid.
If we were that good then a 6 point swing against a team like Jacksonville shouldn’t have mattered. As Mike said earlier, we are in for a rude awakening.
Must Win game facing us already in week 3….SMH
No
its really early
but its a home game against a division foe
So you would like to win it
getterdone says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:53 pm
Must Win game facing us already in week 3….SMH
not if we want a new coaching staff
FFR:
In theory our OL should be decent run blocker, especially for a zone blocking scheme and trap/pulling scheme. In particular that is where Pouncey excels and where Dallas Thomas should be at his best as well.
I feel life I’m talking to myself here. You all have a good night.
G’nite Try – I’m watching the Met game at the same time
We are on the same page
I heard you
hey Seattle just tackled rogers. i didnt know that was allowed in the nfl. since when can he d line tackle the qb. they should come up with a name for that. like call it a sack or something
Ken .. Everything you say is true, but tied at 20 five minutes into the third quarter against a supposedly inferior opponent should result in a win. No excuses.
One thing that is starting to piss me off about Tanny is this 7 yard passing he does when we have 40 seconds, no TOs and little chance to win. I don’t know if it’s stat hunting (not wanting to throw an INT) but give us a shot. The other team is playing to stop that so you have to take a chance. One thing that won’t do shit is throwing it on a crossing pattern 8 yards down the field, smh.
I think the idea on that is the middle of the field would be open and if you get the ball to a WR like Landry he will have a lot of room to make a move and perhaps turn the short pass into a big play. Unfortunately Jax D did a good job of flowing to the ball and not let letting Landry put a good move on.
I would probably buy that if this didn’t always seem to happen. He’s been doing the same thing for years now in these situations. You have to throw the ball down the field. What does 7 yards get you with 30 seconds and 40 yard sto go?
If the middle of the field is not open its bc the outside is vulnerable
if no one fears that your QB will attack the deep out then they take the middle of the filed away
has anyone seen Trypod on tonight. sure would like to hear his opinion
We’re 1-1. Going 2-1 is huge difference vs. climbing out of a 1-2 hole with this coaching staff.
ken
ok fair enough. like i said i am not the expert here. i just look at the big picture.
besides not like they ever line up to try and pound the ball so who knows if they can or cant
“Must Win game facing us already in week 3″….
Must win for what? ..Having a shot at 8-8? …
FFR
And score 45 points per game
getterdone says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:57 pm
We’re 1-1. Going 2-1 is huge difference vs. climbing out of a 1-2 hole with this coaching staff.
doesnt it feel like it was just yesterday that people were talking about a 6-0 start
I agree with all the comments about the scheme
but its just not what we are in design
and if its a pass heavy offense (kindof a spread offense) that runs from the shotgun
you can score points
but you need big plays and defensive breakdowns
if not you are just marching towards the redzone only to lack “big” personel
I harp so much on the failure to throw deep for this reason
you just can;t do these lttile gains after little gains to have one 3rd down conversion stop
You need big plays or the whole thing doesn’t work
I was hoping some more YAC would help but it hasn;t yet so far even though we have guys like Landry who fight for each inch
Tanny needs to hot the deeper throws
when he does it changes the offense
Alright. As much as I enjoy chatting with you all this is not helping ease the pain right now. I have busy day/week ahead. I am out. Peace to you all.
ocalahowie says:
September 20, 2015 at 9:59 pm
FFR
And score 45 points per game
lol you do know they have qb problems dont you
how the hell it that not PI on Seattle.
i swear the officiating so far this year is just horrible
CavalierKong says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:03 pm (Edit)
I would probably buy that if this didn’t always seem to happen. He’s been doing the same thing for years now in these situations. You have to throw the ball down the field. What does 7 yards get you with 30 seconds and 40 yard sto go?
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that is exactly what I keep saying
Piggy,
The deep throws/play calls come about more abundantly, better executed when you can run the ball from under center & run for more than 7 times in the 1st half…..this sets up the defense later for those break downs that you mentioned.
So wish for deep throws all you like….but until we can show defenses that we’ll run on them from other than an option, then they’ll never bite on it….no matter if Aaron Rodgers was Lazor’s QB.
Well its almost the same argument
I hate running from the shotgun too
I’m suggesting that if that is the design of the offense you better hit a deep play or 2
and the fact is, we don’t
Isn’t that the same thing we used to kill Henne for? ..Throwing a 7 yard pass when the situation screamed out for a big play.
Yes
Albeit a little different b/c in Henne’s case it was checkdowns and in this case its just Tanny throwing to his first read and maybe not recognizing the deep play or trying the low % comp
I think the offense for Tanny is a little more WCO short passing so its not so much a check down
bat says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm
Isn’t that the same thing we used to kill Henne for? ..Throwing a 7 yard pass when the situation screamed out for a big play.
yeah kind of. but at least tanny throws it to the receiver and not into the ground.
but got to say. just love this. so now with 40 seconds left and no timeouts. after your d has given up 400 yards it is cause the qb sucks and didnt pull a win out of his ass that the team lost.
well ok if that is the case lets see if someone can invent a time machine and go pack and pluck dan out of the past to qb this team. that is a better possibility then having tanny do it
and before anyone goes off, i get that isnt the only complaint about tanny, but come on really going to bitch with 40 seconds left he did things wrong.
Go watch the Giants @ Dallas game last week and make the same argument
In this day and age that is what QBs are faced with all the time
In a close game its often the last team with the ball that wins
and its not like that was our only chance to get over 20 points
there were multiple missed opportunties
Piggy, not the same argument…why does that system/design have to be ours?
Do you see it being done consistently by another NFL team that wins with it???
Our offense is on an NFL island of sorts with what we are running/ not running.
No
I don;t like the system
but we are stuck with it for now
So that is why its the same argument
I guess you can hope there is an adjustrment
but that sounds like a radical adjustment to me
I’m not sure if another team runs anything like what we do
but that is our system
and unless we hit those big plays we are going to fail
Hit what big plays? By hoping on any given play call that all 11 men are exactly where they’re supposed to be executing their assignment with 100% efficiency over the opposing player trying to execute his assignment? 😉
The Flying Pig says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:29 pm
No
I don;t like the system
but we are stuck with it for now
So that is why its the same argument
and we are not stuck with the players on the roster. if the system doesnt fit the players then it is up to the coaching staff to adjust the system. why the fins problem isnt the players but the coaching staff
It might be the coaching
I’m not defending the coaching or the scheme
Just dealing with it
Can’t be one dimensional in this league and expect it not to catch up to you!
Last week it was the same, but we squeaked one out….this week, our coaches game planned the same way essentially and right into the waiting hands of the Jags coaches….who’s players tried like hell to give it back to us, but our coaches one upped them by consistently going to the same well with nary any deviation that could surprise or catch someone off guard.
If this place were an actual place, the windows would be broken, doors hanging off a single hinge, maybe even a couple of chalkmark outlines on the floor…….
Is why they didn’t have sports bars in saloons back in the 1800’s. 😉
‘In a close game its often the last team with the ball that wins’
yeah maybe one of two games a week. but ok fine, you are hell bent on just dumping on tanny, even when i say over and over he is just part of the problem not just the problem.
i am sure no coach in the league would take him and is 350+ yard and 2 tds but would jump at the chance to take the def that gave up 400 yards and 23 points to jax.
Okay
Point taken
I can’t defend the defense of the coaching
Or the scheme
But I do expect better from Tanny
herdfan says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:34 pm
If this place were an actual place, the windows would be broken, doors hanging off a single hinge, maybe even a couple of chalkmark outlines on the floor…….
nope. it is cause it isnt an actual place that some act all bravado on here. besides it if were and actual place half you fuckers would be chained to me sofa.
The Flying Pig says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:36 pm
It might be the coaching
I’m not defending the coaching or the scheme
Just dealing with it
so you can deal with the coaching but not the position the players are put in cause of the coaching? just want to make sure i have that right
There is an expectation to execute in spite of the coaching of what the players are expected to do
And we are not executing
Maybe the coaching is bad
The execution isn’t there either
And we might win the game of the execution is there
It’s a chicken and egg argument
FFR, the sad part is our coaches have purged guys they didn’t think were system fits and add for 2-4 years guys they thought were…ooops….LOL
getterdone says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Is why they didn’t have sports bars in saloons back in the 1800’s. 😉
well now that is just plain silly, they had hookers in saloons then, who needed football. 🙂
Never seen a hooker in a sports bar? Go to Vegas….lol
The Flying Pig says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:39 pm
Okay
Point taken
I can’t defend the defense of the coaching
Or the scheme
But I do expect better from Tanny
ok, not sure how that is fair to the guy. not that i care about being fair to him. he is a part of the team that lost so fuck him too. but why you expect more from him then any one else i dont get.
hell in my opinion, i think he should spend the night with you in the pig pen and i will go console lauren.
I just think we keep giving Tanny a pass
I have to see the season play our before I judge
But yeah, coachig and scheme might be a problem
Good luck with Lauren though…lol
For what it’s worth
I went back and read earlier comments
I see that I overreacted and was out of line and I apologize
So I hope we can move on
I think it all sucked today. The players, coaching, it all sucked. Arguing over what sucked most is just silly. I thought last week the team had bought into the hype a little too much and needed a wake up call. This week, I just think they sucked. 😦
This week they did wake up….to their reality which is nightmarish!
The Flying Pig says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:42 pm
There is an expectation to execute in spite of the coaching of what the players are expected to do
And we are not executing
Maybe the coaching is bad
The execution isn’t there either
And we might win the game of the execution is there
It’s a chicken and egg argument
come on serious or you just fucking with me again? how many times do i have to say it is the whole fucking teams fault from coaching to the players. it isnt a chicken or egg thing. it is a chicken, egg, biscut, gravy, green beans and ice tea kind of thing. it is the whole fucking organization
I don’t agree
The slightest thing alters the game
And missing opportunities to score is huge
Defense should know when they face us, that of there is a breakdown our qb will make the pay – and that is not what happens on a weekly basis
We need to start demanding more from Tanny
He’s not a new qb anymore
getterdone says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:41 pm
Never seen a hooker in a sports bar? Go to Vegas….lol
will you please leave my mom out of this.
piggy,
nope, cause you didnt listen to me. this i just a blog. i didnt take any offense to what you said. so there is absolutely no need to apologize to me. appreciate the offer though, but there is absolutely no need too. i get you are just as pissed off as i am at this team. so go ahead and vent all you want even if it gets heated, but you dont have to apologize.
i still dont get you so hard on tanny but none of that matters, i think i said this yesterday, every one here wants the same goal. we all just handle it different and see things different.
trust me, i think you are one of the good guys, you are ok in my book, even if i made a pound and a half of your kind for breakfast this morning.
It (blaming Tanny) will make more sense to you when you switch to turkey bacon
Herd’s FU Blog Comes to Life, or Life Taken. 😉
Defense should know when they face us, that of there is a breakdown our qb will make the pay – and that is not what happens on a weekly basis
We need to start demanding more from Tanny
He’s not a new qb anymore
ok i agree with the first comment. i am not saying tanny is rogers, just saying again, he isnt the only problem
and as far as demanding more. it doesnt matter what i demand. hell i demand they win every game 75-0 but what i demand doesnt help a thing.
piggy,
wait. hold on. go fuck yourself, you are a slob and have a rodent as a best friend.
(i just dont want to see any gayness on here later or tomorrow about ‘nice to see piggy and ffr made up’ from mike e)
I put as much effort in tomorrow’s write up as the coaching staff in today’s game
So expect a little pokey tomorrow…
our secondary specially mccain got abused this game. It mostly stems from a lack of pass rush. Was wake hurt? he didn’t seem to be in there much.
I heard he played on 5 downs
Yes he was hurting
The Flying Pig says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:58 pm
It (blaming Tanny) will make more sense to you when you switch to turkey bacon
lol, you have a better chance of convincing me philbin is a good coach then switching to turkey bacon. now, i will say, i do make a mean ass turkey wrapped in bacon. but that is as far as i am willing to go.
The Flying Pig says:
September 20, 2015 at 11:00 pm
I put as much effort in tomorrow’s write up as the coaching staff in today’s game
So expect a little pokey tomorrow…
i think we all got a lil pokey today so why not again tomorrow
ok i think i am out. got to deal with a monday after a loss tomorrow.
piggy,
in all seriousness i meant what i said, i think you are one of the good guys on here. so we are good. i for one really appreciate the effort you put in to keep this place going.
Thanks
Appreciate it
I guess it’s just the first loss of the season
By October we should be used to it and not overreact…lol
Dilfer nailed it
Hard to demand more than near 70% passing, I guess 95% would be good….hard to demand more than 360yds, but true, 450 would be better……hard to demand more than 108+ QBR, but yes 150 would be giggly fun….hard to demand more than O Int’s in over 144 passes, guess we should wait till that’s still the same after 400 passes…
Hey I know, this is the QB we need…..Yeah, that’s the ticket! 😉
I’m glad you two fucktards made up and play nice, and shared your hamsters and gerbils. Now everything is back to normal.
PS – You said I couldn’t do it tomorrow.
You can not lose in the nfl and still win according to Dilfer
I think he needs to go through the concussion protocol…….
BoulderPhinfan says:
September 20, 2015 at 10:58 pm (Edit)
…… Was wake hurt? he didn’t seem to be in there much.
What? Seriously? Did you not read the blog post I spent a total of 5 minutes on?????? He was on the injury report. 😉
He started though
Then they benched him
According to Twitter he played 5 plays
According to Twitter though…
No need to read the article, just the title. It’s what I’ve been saying all night.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-ndamukong-suh-says-dolphins-did-not-set-the-tone-for-the-game-on-defense-20150920-premiumvideo.html
Meanwhile Green Bay is running from shotgun all night effectively
running the ball from shotgun, or overall running plays from shotgun?
They had 29 rushes for 127 yds to Miami’s 16 rushes for 42 yds.
That certainly helped Rodgers get his 2 TD’s. & Crosby kick 4 FG’s.