I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving with family and friends. I don’t have much to say about this game. If we have any hopes of winning one in our division this year, today is the day. I see all the arguments on here, it’s the play calling, it’s the offense, it’s the defense, it’s injuries, it’s the officials, the foot, Tannehill, Suh, coaching. There’s no shortage of reasons and plenty of blame to go around. We have good players. We have some great players. We have some that are young and need some time to develop. We have some that have been around awhile and might not get any better. Not a lot different from any other team. No reason why we can’t win this game.
I hate losing and I can’t drink during the game so they better win.
Lets Go Dolphins!
Finsmob Unleashed 
AT LEAST 4 Dolphins knocked out of today’s game. That new anti-injury exercise guy is working miracles, isn’t he??? –ANOTHER of T-Baum & Ross’s “better ideas!”
Come on man football is a physical sport. Really, blame the owner? LOL
YES, TIM I DO BLAME THE OWNER FOR THIS MESS!!–IF YOU give Ross a free pass for this, you are the cause for the LOL!!! Ross has fucked-up every important hire he’s made from the “EXERCISE GUY” to the GM and HEAD COACH!! – – His “exercise guy” is just another bad example of money blown without positive results!! –ANYBODY WITH HALF A FOOTBALL BRAIN COULD HAVE TOLD ROSS this “exercise guy” is useless in a contact sport. NOW do you get it?? I CAN ONLY HOPE!
I agree with OD, Ross hasn’t done us any favors. It was he who requested we start the season with 15 road games and one game in London too.
what is so sad, is that not only are they losing, they are not even competitive in doing so
Oh well now that Polian said it
OD,
Those players played well for us but Philbin couldn’t handle their personalities. Need to do a better job with the hiring process.
Still blaming Philbin? LOL
Significant lack of talent is what you’ve claimed right?
STILL GIVING PHILBIN A FREE RIDE??—LOL!!
So… Tanne played well- too bad the oline sucks
The OL was fine today
Even with the injuries
This game was over in the first half
Piggy- you know what I am saying here…
The OL was shit today especially in first half. It doesn’t exonerate Tannehill but it played like shit too
PIGGY: DO YOU NEED YOUR EYES CHECKED?? FOX turned in the worst half of football I’ve seen since the Columbo days. And our “substitute center” played like shit, as Ken correctly stated.
November 29, 2015 at 4:17 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVAVx2zUkAAacea.jpgwyoming85 says:
i think randy just took out a hit on polian
The Flying Pig says:
November 29, 2015 at 4:22 pm
Oh well now that Polian said it
the only problem was polian told dave hyde that two years ago. lol
Gdp,
I don’t know if I feel sorry for Campbell, but he is not getting s fair evaluation if based off what we have seen. If they don’t clean house at the top, I think it would be stupid to let Campbell go.
Stupid may be to strong- I think more inconsequential
IF Letting Campbell go is stupid, then, rest assured, THAT’s what ROSS will do!! –It was genius Ross who told Todd Bowles he “didn’t make the cut” despite his 2-1 record as Dolphins head coach. Instead, Ross chose Philbin!! –I could see Bowles with a little smile on his face a couple of times today! REVENGE IS SWEET!!
I disagree with Polian for once. Tanny may be shell shocked behind this OL but his fundamentals are bad right now. When you need almost 60 attempts to break 300 yards…you aren’t playing well.
OR YOU’RE RUNNING FOR YOUR LIFE!!
Did Polian ever wonder how an OL can perform well playing in front of Tannehill? Lol
I like how you turned that around on the ‘shills
RANDY: I DARE YOU to get in front of this horrid O-Line in an NFL game!!–THEN come and tell me HOW GREAT THIS O-LINE IS!!
Where’s all this Polian stuff coming from? I know he believes in Tanny but what and where did he say anything?
We just broke 20 points
Well so much for north of 20 points
Tim Knight says:
November 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm
Where’s all this Polian stuff coming from? I know he believes in Tanny but what and where did he say anything?
after a night of passionate love making he whispered it into dave hydes ear
POLIAN’s about 80 years old. I doubt he’s having a night of passionate love making with Dave Hyde!! NOW, if you’re talking about Omar and Hyde —
That is why Parker is a special player
The Flying Pig says:
November 29, 2015 at 4:29 pm
That is why Parker is a special player
cause he can score meaningless td’s when the game is out of reach
Bc he made a play where few players can make plays
Come on man
Talent is talent
You have to evaluate the young players irrespective of the score
This is how I look in front of the TV every week for 15 years.
I give Tanny credit for being tough
And that is the one reason I haven’t given up hope on him
I think you can work with everything else
We need better coaching more than anything else
To me this is not a firesale team
No but we have voids. I hope Parker becomes a difference maker. He has more talent than every WR on this team including Landry who is really good. They are a good 1-2 punch.
On defense we need edge rushers where is Fede? We need a top level LB and another DB to step up.
This is what irritates me about Tannehill. You look at the final stats, you see some really good plays every once in a while, but none of it is really the truth. The truth is he scored 2 virtually meaningless TDs during garbage time and looked very inaccurate all day He needs some Hue in his life.
The bad plays early in the game killed us today
But again
Give him credit for being tough
There are no garbage time stats if he is not out there playing hard
Say what you will- with the absence of “all-pro” pouncey, the oline was adequate against the jets pass defense- most teams don’t run well against them
I thought so too
I didn’t think the OL played poor today
Excerpt the bad snaps which were way too much
I don’t think we Need pounced
I don’t think we need multiple 1st rounders on the OL either
But that’s just me I guess
RIGHT YOU ARE, PIGGY! NOT picking an O-Lineman in the first 3 rounds cost us dearly this year! NOW if we had someone really good doing the picking, the results might have been better, especially in the O-Line.
OD
I went there in the 1st minute
Ross spent millions on a big conditioning program yet we look to be the most banged up team in the league,
I’m with you on another Ross “DUH MOMENT”
and this banged up thing is no excuse for ho bad we are
WE’RE BAD 😦
Thanks, Howie. Ross has spent more and has less to show for it than ANY other owner in the NFL this season. Spending vast sums of money doesn’t make you a good owner. Spending vast sums of money WISELY makes you a WINNING OWNER, Picking T-BAUM to be his de facto GM has pushed Ross and his team into salary cap hell!!! (JUST as he did with the Jets his last 2 years there.)
In homage to Rush, I’m going with a tribute score for next week
21-12 B etter A t L osing
Yea, that was bad. This team needs a lot of new faces next year.
Piggy,
Tannehill has talent, toughest, and a willingness to do what is necessary. A new staff would consider him a very good selling point. At the same time, he’s flailing around in this O and this will make his 3rd system next year. With all the changes, the protection issues, and the learning curve he already had to work on…he may never get better. He needs someone special at this point to ever get there.
I hope whomever the new coach is
He doesn’t build around Tannehill
But doesn’t write him completely off either
I think we are going to have to ride out some subpar performances with him for a little while
Like I said, I would focus on building around Suh through the draft for now
No high priced free agents
No major changes I the roster
Just add some young talent to the D behind Suh
LBs and DBS
Maybe a pass rusher
Make the first 4 rounds of the draft count and try to get immediate contributors in the first half of the draft
We should probably draft players from the big conferences like the SEC or the big 10 too
Guys that are more likely to contribute right away
You can look for those small school gems a little later
9 rushes !!! Forget “being behind”… we should have had 9 rushes (at least) by halftime
The patriots beat these jests by running ball the ball 9 times
4 of those carries were by Brady
WE are NOT the Patriots. That’s the fatal flaw in your analysis.
Piggy,
I think we have the talent on offense that we need. We have a ton of OL but the defense really has holes. I agree that building around Suh would be the wisest course. I wouldn’t mind one OL early though just because our guys never last an entire season or even close.
sad part of our season is that there doesn’t seem to be a ‘dominant’ college player to “suck” for…. 😦
But at least we’re trending towards top 5….lol
Piggy, I think I see what you’re saying, that no need to build around Tanny. The talent is there on offense, just need a way better system & play calling to get the most that unit.
The Defense is void of as much talent that the Offense has, so YES, we do need some fresher/better talent around Suh, the LB’s, DB’s, and probably another DE.
I think that’s the key
There is young talent on offense
But on D
I think we need to spend most of our draft there
We need better coaching too
But we do have players that can make things happen
I am sorry but the OL was piss poor today especially early in the game when we tried to run. No push what so ever. Douglas at OC not his fault but all the low snaps were killing us.
No one runs on the jests they are 3 vs run in the nfl
Probably #1 now
Star Wars Dolphins
this team is crap. I don’t think hickey sticks. Tanny needs to have competition in the training camp next year IMO. And until they fix this defense we’re going no where. Go get a real defensive minded coach like Zimmer. Run the ball and play defense then maybe we get better next year. I think the 1st round pick should be defense. Either pass rusher or corner.
Tennessee and Houston = 2 week vacation from the reality of our team’s situation.
Newage, good call. I’ve also been saying we need OL early, maybe not 1st round but by the 3rd.
I want a LT prospect cause Albert is aging and is a question mark with his health.
Yeah, always someone injured if not multiple players injured. To think that Albert will last much longer is wishful thinking. We should get the BPA but if it’s a OL early, then I won’t mind.
I would prefer to build up our D early but if they really want Tannehill to be that elite QB the FO thinks he is, they need an OL.
Boulder, a defensive HC isn’t a cure all. Zimmer is doing great, but he’s got Norv Turner as OC which helps, and still has AP.
They beat another defensive HC in Atlanta, but they have a shaky Kyle Shanahan that is mismanaging the great Matty Ice that the Phins missed on drafting for Jake Long instead. 😉
We need good/great coordinators on both sides of the ball & a good/great GM picking the ingredients off the shelf.
we need a new coach too. Campbell is not ready.
Probably true, but same thing….a new HC needs to have 2 good coordinators calling plays!
if the team goes 0-6 against the division whoever is picking the players is doing a crappy job. Hickey should be gone too. I think the new HC should have a say who his GM is gonna be.
WON’T HAPPEN as long as Ross sticks to his “plan.”
My keepers list:
Offense:
Landry
Tannehill – maybe
Defense:
Suh
Jones
Other than that there is not a lick of talent on this team worth building around. I like Lamar Miller but is he worth a big FA contract? Ditto Rishard Matthews? Olivier Vernon?
I re-sign Miller over Vernon and Matthews. Hopefully with a coaching staff that believes in the run game.
Douglas really struggled at center. Let’s not act like he was okay because he wasn’t. This team has come apart in all phases.
If I’m Ross I reset.
His long snapping really hurt us. Why they didn’t change up to play more under center I have no clue
well look like at least the canes have a viable candidate
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/georgias-richt-stepping-down-following-mutual-decision/ar-AAfMTMd?li=BBnb7Kz
Tim Knight says:
November 29, 2015 at 5:55 pm
I re-sign Miller over Vernon and Matthews.
if they lose miller, i would like to see them take fsu’s dalvin cook. he is a special talent
Tim:
I like Miller but I don’t re-sign him if we are doing a reset. I play Ajayai and draft someone in round 4 or 5
Miller is way more explosive than Ajayi. He’s not used properly. How many touches did Miller have and even with that said, how was he used? He’s one of our best players and most explosive and we look elsewhere. Dumb!
They won’t invest that much into an RB especially if they are resetting
Nope- don’t overpay for rb when they have 3.8 avg lifespan. And I don’t care that Miller has been less used than avg rb- still don’t overpay.
Game has moved away from run game. Unless commitment to run game, get receiving back.
Boulder, hire a GM/main man and go from there. I don’t care if Ross retains Tannebaum and looks to him to oversee the football logistics. Just keep him away from personnel. Hickey is likely gone and I don’t think he was bad, just bad timing. But Ross is going to look for the proven coach. I’d target Mike Smith. I think he’ll be good for RT and the running game being a defensive coach.
I’m telling you good defense and 30/30 offense and RT can win. Lazor is overmatched. He should be fired tomorrow.
No to Mike Smith. He under achieved badly in Atlanta
13-3 twice, 5 winnings seasons with a rookie QB to start and 4 playoff appearances in 7 seasons including a championship game. But because he lost in some big games no way? His first run as a HC trumps Belichick by a lot. Just saying!
I heard him on the radio with Francesa pushing his book. He said he learned so much his first time around, he’s a coach at heart and better for it. He’s ready to go. I think he’ll be a hot HC prospect this offseason. I hope we land him and I was not high on him the first time around. Now I am.
If I’m Miller I want the hell out of Miami even if their offer is bigger than another team that will actually make him an integral part of the offense.
Agreed
I think Todd Haley is gonna be our next coach
I am leaning toward Hue Jackson
I’m leaning towards Charles Xavier – proven leadership skills.
He will know what the other coach is thinking
We need mean possibly even very troubled individuals for our defense
Draft that QB from Alabama. Got pro skills.
I again raise the hand for Mike Shula, his dad loved to run the ball and Panthers are one of the top rushing teams @ 10-0.
A Shula is the only way for Ross to keep from losing season tix holders by the droves.
Shula’s been around awhile and has earned his day and he’s been around long enough to know who can coach up a Defense as well.
Go Phins!
I want him too but I doubt we go with him.
If we get Haley the Horrible I’ll probably wait to watch games until he’s fired 3-4 years from now and the team is a dumpster fire again. Horrible, horrible coach. Get me Hue or Shula but please for the love of all that’s holy keep that guy away from my team. Or if Bat wants to help, for the love of all that’s unholy.
no to haley.
Mike Smith might be ok as well.
tim,
agreed on the reset. I think Mr T sticks and will be tasked to find a new GM/Coach tandem.
That’s why I’m calling Haley
Cousins:
You like that
You like that
I’m also not sure about shula. I think hugh jackson is someone I’d talk too.
He’s my favorite so far but I also like Shula and Smith might be ok. Haven’t looked too hard but Hue just sticks out to me.
son of a son of a shula says:
November 29, 2015 at 6:14 pm
Draft that QB from Alabama. Got pro skills.
lmao. you mean the one that has a great oline and running back that alabama only lets him throw the ball 3 times a game cause they have no confidence in him.
Gots pro skills
We could have Keuchly and Cousins, just sayin
Really? That’s the ticket! LOL
Tim:
I will so hate this franchise if we hire Mike Smith. How many one and dones did he have?
How did Belichick do first time around or does he never count? One winning season in 5 seasons in CLE with one playoff one and done. At least hire a HC who’s won and has gotten to big games. I think you’re missing the boat here.
Mike Smith is the best HC available I’m telling you. A defensive coach who will commit to the run and put RT in better situations. He’ll also focus heavily on defense.
Newage,
Not sold on Haley here either. I like Shula, Chud, who could then bring a guy like FA Jim Schwartz or Mike Smith on as our new DC.
What has Shula jr. or Chud proven? You’re aiming low.
How is that aiming low. Mike Smith had Mike Nolan running the D in Atlanta and they both got fired with Matty Ice & Julio Jones leading the team.
Not saying Smith is not a good choice, but he’s hardly a no-brainer over the other candidates mentioned.
Yeah I’ve never recognized a good player. Keep fucking laughing at me it’s cute
Where did that come from? LOL
son of a son of a shula says:
November 29, 2015 at 6:21 pm
Gots pro skills
well between calling for suh and ‘got pro skills’ i think we are all happy to know you wont be in the running to be in charge of personnel
We should be so lucky
GDP; It’s too late to avoid losing season ticket holders in droves. It’s already happening. And today’s dismal performance didn’t help the situation. The ONLY THING that would avoid a massive loss of ticket sales would be if Ross sold the team to a Mark Cuban type who is relatively young and committed to winning. Miami area fans are “Show Me” fans. “Show Me” you can win and I’ll show up. Show me you suck and I’ll stay home.
True, but that’s most all fans in today’s microwave instant gratification society.
Except for the Brownie fans, they’re incredibly loyal as hell 😉
LOL……. GD, Mike Smith has coached a team to two 13-3 seasons, 5 winning seasons and 4 playoff appearances including a championship game in 7 years. Find me one available HC candidate even close?
LOL, so has Rex Ryan, but would you want him as HC in Miami?
I want a HC that can bring in some talented coordinators. Philbin didn’t have any that he could bring in outside of Sherman who has really bad talent. The guy can’t even win in HS ball. If Chud, or Smith can bring in more talented guys than Hue, then I’m all for it. We’ve had a poor coaching staff overall(in exp if not talent) for a long time.
I look at the guys that Marvin Lewis, John Fox,and even Petey have, or who Harbaugh had in SF and I would love quality coaches throughout the organization.
olddolphan says:
November 29, 2015 at 6:35 pm
GDP; It’s too late to avoid losing season ticket holders in droves. It’s already happening. And today’s dismal performance didn’t help the situation. The ONLY THING that would avoid a massive loss of ticket sales would be if Ross sold the team to a Mark Cuban type who is relatively young and committed to winning.
lol, so ross isnt committed to winning now? he lets management sign the highest price FA spends bucks on his qb but isnt committed to winning? just cause he makes bad decisions doesnt mean he isnt committed to winning
OH YA?? Spending big money on incompetent players and front office people who don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground makes him committed to winning, eh? NOOO!–it makes him committed to spending unwisely, kinda like our government. AND WE ALL know there’s a difference, or do we?
SOME BIG SCHOOL OR PRO TEAM is going to hire Art Briles away from Baylor. NOT SAYING he’d be the right choice for Miami. But someone’s going to toss a humongous chunk of cash his way in the next couple of years. BRILES TEAMS are always well conditioned, something I haven’t said about the Dolphins since the Jimmy Johnson years.
New Age says:
November 29, 2015 at 6:38 pm
I want a HC that can bring in some talented coordinators.
they are so bad now that i would be happy with a coach that just makes them competitive
olddolphan says:
November 29, 2015 at 6:43 pm
OH YA?? Spending big money on incompetent players and front office people who don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground makes him committed to winning, eh? NOOO!
so what is your idea of committed to winning. you named mark cuban, pretty sure the dallas mavericks havent won anything in a while. i dont think you can ask much more of an owner then to spend money. what is cuban going to do, suit up and start playing. i get he may make the team with the lack of talent on this team, but i dont know what else an owner can do to ‘commit’ to winning’
now if ross makes bad decisions then say you want an owner that doesnt make bad decisions. but calling him out for not committed to winning i dont get.
Sorry you don’t get it. You’re probably not the only one.
I will be so pissed if we hire Mike Smith
Ken says:
November 29, 2015 at 7:03 pm
I will be so pissed if we hire Mike Smith
how i feel about gruden. actually worse, if they hire gruden i wont be fan, i will pull for them to lose every game.
He ain’t leaving the booth
Ken says:
November 29, 2015 at 7:20 pm
He ain’t leaving the booth
the hell with the booth, i want him to leave this earth
32-27 Seattle over Pitt with 6 minutes to go. We’re never in a game like this.
Can’t be cause we don’t score more than 20 and except for 2 bullshit tds we don’t score in the fourth quarter
tim,
mike smiths defense with nolan wasn’t that great the last few years. HE would not be my first choice. might not even be in my top 5.
I have no idea who they should hire. If it’s Mangini, I’ll be done with this team. Other than that, someone who has experience, someone who has had some success. Someone who can get some good coordinators and position coaches. Is that too much to ask??????
I like Mangini or Josh McDaniel.
Lets look @ KC.
They beat a tough Buffalo defense by putting up 30 points, which is also a lot of points normally for the Chiefs.
KC lost their workhorse Jamal Charles early on. Yet they never stopped running the ball. They lost West, now today get another 100+ yards in back to back games from the 4th string Spencer Ware.
Good balanced attack, good play calling, IDENTITY sticking to running the ball no matter who is toting the rock!
Lazor is employing a very very flawed system!
Brady posted this on his facebook page. What a tool! SMH
Screw Tom Lady, I’m picking the Broncos. Go Brock Osweiler & that Denver D!
olddolphan says:
November 29, 2015 at 8:47 pm
Sorry you don’t get it. You’re probably not the only one.
yeah i know. some of us just are stupid ignorant idiots. we cant all be as smart as you. hey, i got an idea, why dont you email me the answers
FFR you crotchety old Lutz neighbor!
howie,
thought you would like this
http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/the-laziest-city-in-each-state/ss-BBngg2M?fullscreen=true#image=10
Our linebackers suck and there’s Jonathan Freeney playing a huge role for NE and yet for 3 years we couldn’t use him.
It’s hard to watch patriots games when they have our ex players contributing
It’s hard for a lot of other reasons too
But I watch in hopes of seeing Brady’s knee explode
Because they have a system, that plays to the strengths of their players, we have shit.
Ninkovic was a favorite of many on here, the one preseason he played for us, so of course we cut him.
Draft uninjured players from big conferences and put them in to play. That’s the entire NE front 7 except for Freenet and Nink who we discarded.
The bengals do it to
It works
Draft healthy players from big conferences
We actually got a lot out of our rookies today FWIW
Parker, Ajayi, Douglas, Phillips and Bobby McCain
All of them getting playing time
I think if we stuck with Philbin we could not say that
It would hurt to get Lippett in there next week IMO
All the rooks need to start now.
Phillips a lot too
Fede?
Missing in action
Aikens?
Missing in action
Small school guys
Aikens has sucked all season, why bring him up now?
Fits my narrative
Has there ever been a more stubborn athlete than Kobe? 2-15 shooting 6pts in the first half trailing the Pacers 48-35. How do the Lakers expect to win any game, when that dumb fuck keeps shooting like that. Kobe pass the Fn ball. He shouldn’t be allowed to shoot 15 times in 2 games, let alone a half. When Tim Duncan started his decline, he took a back seat to others, and he keeps being an important player for them.
I just lost respect for Wade Phillips defense.
I’ve been screaming all nite to blitz Brady on these empty backfield 3rd & longs.
Not once, he just send 4. Brady just waits till his receiver gets open. Plus with no blitzes it allows the RB’s to go out into running routes that the LB’s can’t cover….Screw you Wade Phillips, you got to hit Brady & force him into mistakes you tool.
Go broncs
Finally they caught a break and took advantage.
Now do it again Broncos!
Good call on the hold
Tre Jackson a good player btw
One of the OGs we mentioned lasts year
Like I keep saying you can find interior OL mid rounds
Holy crap they called holding on the patsies
Brady yelling at ref
Ref gets fired tomorrow
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report–team-plane-incident-was-final-straw-for-quinton-coples-with-jets-175123914.html
Don’t fart in the coaches face on the plane
Well if it’s true the jests really did a good job of keeping it quiet in a market where it’s near impossible to do that
Keith Byers was the mother of all mudders
I don’t know about going empty backfield there
I yelled the samething….that close to the goal ya want the defense to think ya could run…and they called a TO to come up with that play…..SMH
Lazor calling plays for them now
Let’s go Broncos!!!
Brady got smacked
Big shot
Osweiller won with 17 last week. You gotta get more than that to keep winning just ask tannehill
Nu Wingland
Gronk is hurt
I actually like Gronk
But I like patriot injuries more
He’s good but he’s one of them
WOOOO, I’m feeling a miracle comeback….Go Osweiler!
I think ive seen this ending before 😢
Left brady too much time dammit
I hope they didn’t leave too much time
Beer
PBR
Fuck
Yep see this ending before
No blitz at end gave Brady enough to get in FG range….Wade Phillips is scared to bring the blitz!!!! SMH
Goodell ordered him to lay off😎
Nice job Denver
Awesome d