Tom Coughlin for President?
Hue Jackson – Right on brother!
Sean Payton for a 2nd RD pick? Mike Shanahan? Adam Gase? Tom Coughlin? Dan Campbell? Bill Belichick for Suh, Landry, Parker and Tannehill? Hue Jackson? Mike Shula? Teryl Austin? Mike Smith?
Who will be the next head Coach of the Miami Dolphins?
Out of all the options above, and there are sure to be other options in the near future, I actually have 2 favorites from that bunch.
If we’re going with the short term stopgap, and a HC who will give us respectability immediately, and as part of the package, grooms our next HC in Dan Campbell, I’m all for Tom Coughlin. Coughlin is a well respected HC and person in the NFL. Once a fierce disciplinarian type coach, being a military man, Coughlin was a no nonsense man. As HC of the NYG, he felt like he was losing his team, and changed his approach to a more friendlier relationship with his players, and the team responded and went to the Super Bowl and won. Is 70 years old too old? I say hell no! I’ve seen great managers in baseball like Jim Leyland, Jack McKeon succeed in their 70’s, and heck, Ronald Reagan was 70 when he was elected President, and he did a fantastic job running our country.
I like Dan Campbell, but I just don’t think he’s ready to run a team yet. Too many things he’s deficient in, but what a truly great guy to learn from Tom Coughlin would be. A true professional, a winner. Of course, nothing has been documented that Coughlin and or Cambell would agree to this set up, but it seems legitimate to me, and I like it.
If we’re looking for a long term (hopefully), I like Hue Jackson. (I would like Mike Shula too, but as so far, he hasn’t been mentioned as a coach we’re interested in) Jackson wasn’t given a fair shot with the Raiders, he went 8-8, and was fired. Incidentally, Hue’s OC in OAK was Al Saunders, the guy we brought in to “help” our offense after Philbin was fired. Jackson has done good things as OC for the Bengals. Dalton is playing his best football of his career this year, and most believe that is credit due to Hue Jackson. Bengals fans are actually crying for Dalton to play in the playoffs when they clearly all know Dalton is 0-4 in the playoffs.
- Friday January 8th Update! *
Yesterday, the Dolphins interviewed Bears Offensive Coordinator Adam Gase. Supposedly it was a long, thorough interview. That means this week, the Dolphins have interviewed Mike Shanahan, Mike Smith, Teryl Austin and Anthony Lynn. Dan Campbell will make his case today, and Doug Marrone and Hue Jackson will follow this weekend.
Finsmob Unleashed 
i cant believe rodgers is coming out with all the momentum and letting cousins score on the opening drive of the second half.
ffr,
It’s a turn of phrase. Would you prefer “led his team to the playoffs”? Because obviously that’s the true point. Rodgers is the leader of his team, right? You may feel the QB position doesn’t matter, only the team as a whole; I disagree. You can’t just evaluate “the team”. It’s made up of the sum of its parts. Comparing like to like (i.e Tanny to Rodgers) Rodgers is worlds ahead of Tanny. So how about we stop comparing the two. One is a hall of fame player, the other is a work in progress.
Or the next bad play Rodgers has, we can make a sarcastic remark comparing the two, then the next good play, we can argue about how we’re not comparing them, lol.
i am tim again. i am starting to like this. a few page turns and i am thinking i can really fuck up some shrubs
I like the shrub, as long as it’s nice and not too expensive. 🙂
kong,
what part of no one is really comparing them. every one here that is is just busting balls. there isnt a sole here that thinks tanny and rodgers are comparable. it is just their way to point out tanny isnt the sole person responsible for the fins sucking. like i was busting on wilson today, he did barely nothing yet his team won. they could have won with randy at qb and he is drunk.
and i dont get ‘You can’t just evaluate “the team”.’ what else should i evaluate. the traffic leading up to the stadium. i only care that the team wins. i watched an all world qb lead the league in stats. set the nfl on its ear about what a passing qb can do. hell he is one of the guys responsible for making this a qb passing league, yet ‘the team’ didnt win a thing with him at qb. i will evaluate the team and not just be happy if they have a great qb and never win shit
tim
all shrub is expensive. even the shrub you cant see.
You’re wrong Cav, it takes a whole team to throw passes no one can catch when it matters the most.
Business casual
ffr,
The whole crux of the blog argument is Tanny. And nobody that thinks Tanny may not be the answer believes the rest of the team is great. Yet that appears to be the constant refrain from the other side, “don’t look at it in a vacuum, it’s the whole team”, then that side wants to continually turn around and compare in the vacuum of a single play or game, lol.
As for evaluating the team, you can evaluate individual pieces of the team with an understanding of the impact the rest of the team has on those pieces.
Example: Tanny’s oline has a bad game, yet on the drives where the oline plays solid, he doesn’t maximize those possessions and we end up with 10 points. Comparing like to like: Rodgers oline has a bad game, and on the possessions where the oline plays solid he maximizes those drives and score 24. Maybe they both lose their respective games.
So at the end, you can say “look neither can play without the rest of their teams playing well.” Or you can say “it takes the team, but one guy is fucking good and the other not so good” lol
So yeah, the Dolphins as a team fucking stunk this year. Tanny stunk this year. The coaches stunk this year. And NOBODY thinks the whole team didn’t stink.
I take that back. The WHOLE team didn’t stink, lol. Jones didn’t stink. He was lights out. Landry was pretty good too (take away a couple of those stupid penalties and I’d say great). Matthews was pretty good until he got hurt. And Parker started to come on strong at the end.
There were some good parts to our team (few)
And some bad parts to our team
Tannehill was a bad part IMO
But you will end up banging your head against the desk having that argument
Appearently to evaluate Tannehill everything else needs to work perfectly
i think wait i know, sometimes on here some just want to be obstinate no matter what. they know better but their hatred of the team losing for so long just blinds them to having rationale thoughts at times. they dont care about facts or the reality of things, they just want to hate for the sake of hating and will blame the easiest and most obvious of choices to take out their vengeance. even if it is not all deserved. i do get it, it is the easiest.
means you dont have to think, just hate. and i get at times that is so much more fun
steve
I have always praised Tannehill for having a good arm and nice athleticism; although Rodgers also has great accuracy on almost any type of pass. Arm and athleticism aren’t the issue with Tannehill. I wish that sometimes he would just trust his arm more and his head less. But, if you’re not Dan Marino, that can be awfully risky and lead to a lot of bad throws, but I still wish he’d do it more.
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It looked to me that they were teaching him to develop in the pocket in the NFL. He ran a lot more in college, and I assumed they tried to teach him how to make plays from within the pocket. I’m hopeful Gase can help him improve….learn how to read and manipulate defenses and manage the pocket. We still have no idea if Tanny can change plays on his own…get in better protections or play selection. We’re told he really hasn’t been allowed to do that much at all. I never noticed him doing it until the last couple games. Why?
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People want to blame the OL, but it’s tough to block when you’re often trying to block extra guys. And, when your QB struggles to identify those extra rushers and either slide away from the pressure or get the ball away…well…things get ugly. Even with that, our OL play has to improve. There is no question they have to improve a lot. This team has a number of issues. Tannehill has a great chance to improve, step up and lead this team. I hope like hell he does.
“We still have no idea if Tanny can change plays on his own…get in better protections or play selection. We’re told he really hasn’t been allowed to do that much at all. I never noticed him doing it until the last couple games. Why?”
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Randy,
To me, this kind of lends some verisimilitude to the Armando story about Philbin not believing in Tanny. I think this was entirely a coaching thing. He did start to audible more towards the end of the year, and the stadium didn’t implode, so I can’t think why else he wouldn’t have been given the green light to audible prior. smh
kong
again, to say some on here want to compare a single play or game and not get the sarcasm of it is so unfair. i guess i just give more credit to others football intellect or just dont really take what is said here all that serious. i really dont doubt when getter is pointing out that rodgers got sacked for a safety he is just busting balls and pointing out no qb survives behind a bad oline. i really didnt think he was serious.
and i dont care about the whole crux of the blog. i can only speak for myself not the blog. my whole crux is this whole team sucked this year. tanny included. i just dont get the ‘lets just blame one aspect of the team’ mentality. they spent a lot of money on some guy that was suppose to be ‘everything is different’ effect. and the defense was worse. but ok lets not talk about fixing that lets just talk about the qb. if that is the goal here, then have fun with it, to me it is so fucking boring.
ffr,
I know 98% of your posts are jbb, bro, lol. Each of your posts comes equipped with a giant red nose.
You say you give credit to people’s football intellect, then follow it with ” i just dont get the ‘lets just blame one aspect of the team’ mentality”. Again, that is exactly what I am saying; NOBODY on this blog is blaming just one aspect of the team. Some people think Tanny is the answer, some people don’t. That’s it, lol.
I’m going to follow this with, I have no idea what to think about Tanny anymore. I start to wonder if he was sabotaged (whether intentionally or not) by this coaching staff.
kong
i do agree the fins have some individual talent at certain positions but i said i just look at this team as whole. and they suck. the ones you pointed out are pretty good players. but those pretty good players dont make my sundays better lol. so get some more damn pretty good players so my monday morning hangovers can come with……’yeah but at least the dolphins won’
Cheers, ffr. I’m enjoying the conversation. Let’s take a drink together right now. (I assume you’re drinking like I am)
Kong,
None of us really know. Did the coaches give him the opportunity to do it in practice; he couldn’t…so they wouldn’t allow it? Or, was his HC or OC the type who just didn’t allow it? I think that’s crazy as a coaching philosophy, but we’ve heard over the years that certain coaches ran their shop that way. All we fans know is that he didn’t do it. We won’t know why until we hear the stories that come out years from now. Lol
wow, heads up play change there by Rodgers.
‘Again, that is exactly what I am saying; NOBODY on this blog is blaming just one aspect of the team. Some people think Tanny is the answer, some people don’t. That’s it, lol’
ok i didnt mean it like that. i get that if that is how you thought i meant it. maybe i should say. all anyone wants to talk about is tanny being at fault. and i get the qb is the main focus, just like the HC is. i just kind of mean it gets old just talking about the qb. i admit, i kind of like to share my hate equally amongest the whole team
I’m pretty sure I just saw a $25 word
(I assume you’re drinking like I am)
long island ice tea.
and yeah a all in fun good convo. it gets lost so much on here without the emotion or how a comment is made but yeah having a laugh or two with you and a good convo. i mean who wouldnt talking to a fucking ape.
Randy,
I have to say, it’s one of the more puzzling things we’ve had to deal with. I’m so glad the last vestiges of this stupid coaching staff have been jettisoned. good riddance.
Randy says:
January 10, 2016 at 7:22 pm
wow, heads up play change there by Rodgers.
will you stop please comparing rodgers to tanny. it is upsetting the monkey.
son of a son of a shula says:
January 10, 2016 at 7:23 pm
I’m pretty sure I just saw a $25 word
jahn was here
All we fans know is that he didn’t do it. We won’t know why until we hear the stories that come out years from now. Lol
randy
lol you mean like this magical revelation that we just heard the philbin hated tanny this whole time.
Rum and coke.
Cheers, blog.
Kong,
Verisimilitude and vestiges in the span of minutes? What next? Vertigo? Vascular? Velocities? Victorious? Velociraptor? This should be good. Lol
Cousins got lucky there. Bad throw.
Lookin like Tannehill now
Lol, Randy. Nothing so vapid or vulgar.
How about this:
Voila! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.
Wow I wonder if Herd has any prizes left
That is some righteous shit right there, Kong.
Woah, guys. I have an excellent vocabulary, but that isn’t mine. It’s from the movie V for Vendetta.
Forrest Gump quotes I recognize…lol
LOL
Kong,
Lol. No wonder I thought it sounded familiar, and I just thought I was drunk and imagining things, ya plaguarist! I like that movie. Hugo Weaving has a great voice. He makes a good Elrond too.
Yeah, he made the movie V for Vendetta. Since you never see his face, it was all about the voice. He was great as Agent Smith too.
Probably the worst time for Cousins to pull off his best Tannehill impression.
anybody got a dog in the fight tomorrow night. i am like most of us hate saban, but other then that really dont care.
Our pal Naples is a Clemson man that’s reason enough to root for them
son
yep that is. i have a niece who is a bama grad but i look for any reason to not pull for satan. but i really wont lose any sleep either way. besides last thing naples wants is me pulling for his team.
wow 4th and 17 and cousins throws a 4 yard pass. good damn thing the fins qb doesnt do that, everyone would hate him.
If we only had Kirk Cousins we’d be just fine. I mean he’s clutch in big spots. LOL
That’s so cute after his first playoff appearance on a team everyone predicted to win 4 games this year. And going against Rodgers no less.
Excuses, excuses. LOL
Listen – We all knew coming into the NFL that Tannehill wasn’t as developed at the QB position as some of the other prospects that were drafted before him, and even some of the prospects that were drafted after him. We knew he played about 17 games as a QB at TAMU. Those were the facts coming here at #8 in 2012, and I don’t think any of us really expected him to start right away, we were all basically prepared to have him sit behind Garrard for a season and let him learn, but an injury to Garrard forced Tannehill to start immediately. He improved each season in the NFL from 2012-2014. In 2015, he took a step backwards, but really just a small step. We were 7-9 his rookie season, then 8-8 in ’13, 8-8 in ’14, this year, the whole team played poorly and we were 6-10.
My hope is that this staff, Adam Gase especially work with Tannehill with a clean slate, Start fresh, and what he’s already learned will mix with what he’s taught by Gase and his staff, and hopefully we’ll have a more learned, complete QB. There’s no shame that he’s still learning in his 5th year, especially considering how short his college career was as a QB. I think we might all be pleased with Tannehill next season, I just wish everyone here could give him a chance. I really think we can see serious improvement from him, but only time will tell.
Or else Gase looks at the tape and say’s – give me Connor Cook, lol
Hey now! LOL
I spent at least 3 minutes and 31 seconds writing that post and you bitch-slap it with Connor Cook? lol
Mike, As raw as Tannehill was coming into the league I don’t think anyone involved in picking him expected to have zero playoff appearances after 4 years. Even Teddy went in his second year.
I can’t say that’s mostly Tannehill’s fault, I never cared for Philbin, and whether that whole story Mando wrote is true, or even partially true, or even zero % true, his teams choked, both offensively and defensively in every big game we had a chance to make the playoffs, so I’d blame ol’ Joe a lot more than the young QB, but that’s just how I feel.
It’s a lot of things for sure but true all the same
Which I consider a pretty good indicator that the idea a QB can be judged on this stat alone behind the inarguably worst line in football over his tenure is a red herring.
But hey, everyone is allowed to color their herrings as they see fit.
“I’m pretty sure I just saw a $25 word”
I also take issue with this. “verisimilitude” is clearly a $100 dollar word! 😛
very impressive word, for sure
Mike, I feel like a boxer on here lately, hands up protect protect protect but sometimes I see an opening and get a jab or a shot in. I gotta take it.
That’s because Suh had a sub par season. He wasn’t bad and neither was Tannehill, but neither lead the team to new heights.
Off we go to 2016. Let’s hope Gase gets it!!! LOL
I hear ya, the Tannehill defense team gets very touchy. I just want him to succeed, I really do. I want to see if he can improve, because I think he has what it takes, he just needs to have someone believe in him and guide him, and I think he can do what he needs to do. We’ll have Parker and Landry, and man would I love to have a good TE. I don’t think Cameron is it man. He had one good season, and 4 pedestrian, very pedestrian seasons. I think he can be a #2 TE, but I want a guy like Jordan Reed, Gronk, Julius Thomas, Delanie Walker, Travis Kelce, Tyler Eifert. Cameron ain’t that.
Touchy indeed.
Some 4th qtr TD’s would have me off his back very easily.
Eh, he threw 3 against the Jets. 🙂
Going to hang with my wife – Good talking to you Sonny, even if it was brief. Goodnight guys/gals!
Goodnight Mike, give my best to Mrs. Mike
Notice how both teams tried to run it late? We would have never done that. We would have thrown bubble screen after bubble screen. Ugh!!!
Please……. Adam Gase, change that.
I see Mike E wants a dominant TE. Nobody else would ever want that. Or a guy who can cover them. LOL
crap does this thing work