Well Earth lives another day
Seems like some other planet outweighed Earth on the intergalactic planetary destiny scale. Earth is so luck. 5th time this year. Chances are Earth will survive through at least the draft.
Which is good because taking a trip to Earth is such a long trip and Momma Wedge worries about me away from home…
Momma Wedge
I don’t want to worry Momma Wedge. A worried Momma can do some irrational things.
Which brings me to Arkansas running back Alex Collins.
If Alex Collins Mom had her way we would’t saying “Arkansas” running back.
You see Alex Collins is a local product. He went to South Plantation High School, not too far from the Dolphins Davie Facility.
The highly touted high school running back, unfortunately didn’t get calls from college football powerhouses like Miami, Florida or Florida State.
Instead Arkansas sent a letter of intent to Alex Collins. And he was going to sign it…but….his Momma took the letter of intent and ran away with it. Momma Collins didn’t want her little baby going so fa away.
Well it was an easy fix for Arkansas. They just sent another letter of intent to Alex Collins father by fax.
And Alex Collins went to Arkansas and gained over 3800 yards from scrimmage in three years. And Momma Collins cried on every yard.
Collins did a little bit of everything for Arkansas. He ran the ball, he caught some passes, he blocked and he even returned kicks and punts.
No matter what he does, Collins has a real nose for the end zone scoring 36 TDs while at Arkansas.
He a fun runner to watch. In High School he ran track for South Plantation and you can see that speed on the field. Collins accelerate fast to the hole.
And Collins runs hungry. He fights for extra yards on every play. He’s a very physical runner punishing defenders.
But what really catches my eye with Collins is his balance.
He runs with incredible balance. He’s not easy to bring down because of it.
Sometimes he’s not easy to catch because of that balance. He changes direction with ease while the defenders try to change position and end up having to chase him.
Kind of reminds me a of certain scale. If Alex Collins was an Alien Weapon of Destruction, he would be a an Intergalactic Planetary Galactic Scale.
So let’s bring Alex Collins back to Miami….for his Momma!
Watch his highlights here
Finsmob Unleashed 
Kasich is a RINO, he’s a dem basically. Not for me.
In the famous words of Rodney King, “Can’t we all just get a Bong”?
C’mon guys. Let’s stop the attacks. We are all Phin fans. Blog Lives Matter!
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the Broncos have a trade in place for Colin Kaepernick.
The deal is expected to be for a mid-round pick. The Broncos and 49ers have agreed on compensation, but Kaepernick’s contract remains a holdup. Denver wants Kaepernick to take a $5 million pay cut, and the sides reportedly aren’t close on a restructure. Kaepernick should eventually end up in Denver, but it’s likely going to take an incentives-based deal.
Tim Knight says:
April 2, 2016 at 6:03 pm
Okay jetsssuck, who are the idiots? You said it. Come clean.
i am sure he was talking about me. which i dont mind, i wear the hat of an idiot quite nicely. just like he wears his troll hat nicely but wont admit that is what he does.
Joe Flacco expects Mike Wallace to have a big role in Ravens’ offense.
Wallace is coming off career lows, but his struggles were partly due to Minnesota’s West Coast offense. He’ll run more vertical routes in Baltimore and should easily top last year’s 72 targets. Playing with Flacco gives Wallace a chance to reestablish himself as one of the better deep threats in the league.
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We’ll see, but man wouldn’t that piss the Squealer fans off….lol
https://youtu.be/cNsajLACDkg
Of course here is another option!
Of course here are my top picks!
Kudos Wyoming! Now if they only had spilled milk.
You are assuming they don’t?
🙂
wyo,
those girls are really pretty but when they come over i got to admit it takes them hours to get naked doing everything in slow motion
Impatient bastard! 😉
Tim,
Yes, Tannehill had his highest YPA last season because he had a major Matt Flynn game against Houston. Matthews took a slant to the house, Landry made that awesome run to score the td and Miller took a screen pass to the house as well. Things like that help pad your stats.
As far as the receivers having better numbers after the catch, believe me, it wasn’t because of accuracy and ball placement. He still sucks in that area.
Never seen a qb who’s so hell bent on throwing behind his receivers, rb’s and te’s to make a play more difficult than it needs to be.
LOL
You do realize Landry, Parker and Stills are all 23 years old along with Tannehill and Cameron are 27 right?
Oh my, if it hasn’t happened by now it never will. Yeah that’s how life works. 🙂
Tim,
you have this idea he can be a consistent 4,500 yd/30+td per year guy and that’s just unrealistic. that’s putting him in the upper echelon of qb’s in the NFL and he’s just not that good. Tannehill NEEDS to have a balanced offense because he CAN’T achieve those types of numbers. He should be throwing for about 3,700 yds and 27 td’s a season at the most because we’re rushing the ball successfully. If he’s getting more yards than that then we aren’t winning games.
GD, I have no issues with anyone but when someone calls out some as idiots… we have a problem.
so wr taking short passes to the house just pad stats but when they drop passes that doesnt pad to the negative stats??????
there is nothing as funny as those that use stats to prove a point but only after they take out the stats they dont like.
he completed 62% of his passes last season. How many bubble screens did he throw? he has the worst ball placement of any qb EVER and people are going to say that Tannehill had more passes dropped on him than any other quarterback. What a frickin joke.
LOL
‘he has the worst ball placement of any qb EVER’
lol, wow i never new the nfl had a stat or rating for placement. i mean it has to be a fact certainly cant be an opinion.
oh if only the fins had a qb, they would have gone undefeated last yea…….what am i saying if only they had qb they would not have lost a game in 4 years. maybe start winning SB’s again like the marino years. more proof all a team needs is a qb to when SB’s
and as we all know, stats tell the whole story, just like the Houston game where he THREW for 4 td’s. Tannehill is a guy who maxes out at 3 t’s in a game and is more consistently and 1 to 2 td per game guy.
You like stats? Here’s one. Against Indy he completed 68% of his passes for 329 yds, averaging 8.7 yds per attempt but had 0 td’s and 1 int. How did that happen? Go watch the game and you’ll see.
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Darron Lee, OLB/ILB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 11: Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Will Redmond, CB, Mississippi State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 9: Spencer Drango, OG/OT, Baylor (B)
Round 5 Pick 8: Matt Judon, DE/OLB, Grand Valley State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 11: Josh Ferguson, RB, Illinois (A+)
Round 7 Pick 6: Kevin Peterson, CB, Oklahoma State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 10: Geronimo Allison, WR, Illinois (A+)
Will Redmond in the 3rd round is what makes this draft
Do we need 2 OGs
How bout you use that 4th on RB
It ends up being a great draft then
I actually like Drango as a back up OT to develop
But whitehair dropped into the second!
BPA Baby!!!!!!!!
and to answer your question!
Yes with injuries last year we needed 2 OG;s
Here’s a load of bad QB play and limited skill. LOL
C’mon Tim, Highlight reel? Really?
I wanted to point out all those 6 yard passes. LOL
LMAO
lou
i dont like stats. you are the one using them well at least using the ones you like. i am just enjoying your rambling about how bad tanny is when the rest of the team is probably worse then he is. this team needs a lot, they may have a handful of players that are worth anything but lets just go on and on and on and on about how bad tanny is
The longest version of the Benny hill theme you will ever hear
That was some good stuff😂
The worst part are the 3 safeties in a row
Wow that was bad
I laughed at that, but the Sims moment of turrets syndrome on MNF made me die!
I saw that Houston game from the stands
With a few other regulars here
I thought Tannehill was on the money in that game
The ball was placed perfectly
I think that game was the exception to what we saw most of last season though
If he would have played like that in most of the games last year instead of just that game we would have won a lot more
And I don’t mean stat wise
I don’t think he needs 4 tds and 200 yards from miller to win
But slow reactions and poorly placed balls robbed us of a lot of bigger plays
That day though, everything was perfect
That day Billy Turner beat JJ Watt’s ass also.
This is a good example of Eli Apple lacking physicality
Not fair at all to Apple. He is physical, he’s not afraid to take on blockers etc…. But he sucks royal ass as a tackler.
I guess physical is the wrong word for it
But I hear a lot of negative things about his tackling
I sort of assume the same mentality is in play on this play
He wasn’t afraid of that blocker
But it didn’t matter
Yeah….tackling skill is a big ?, but he’s not shy about taking people on. He is literally better than Lee at taking on OL and getting off blocks. Unfortunately he is an ankle swipe tackler😂
https://twitter.com/donpringle/status/716251879877910528
a all new york presidential election?
Hillary is not originally from nyc
There is probably half a dozen dolphins that can call the Houston game there best game in 2015
Tannehill
miller
Matthews
Landry (albeit he has more options that anyone else)
Billy Turner
Maybe reshad jones too
I think suhs best game was against Philadelphia
And Wake was probably against Tennessee – is t that when he had 4 sacks?
Grimes had a good game early in the year – but I can’t remember which one…game 1 vs the redskins?
‘If he would have played like that in most of the games last year instead of just that game we would have won a lot more’
how in the hell do you know that. hey know what else….if the fins had scored more then their opponents they would have won a lot more games last year.
lmao. yep they so would have. ohhhhh to have a qb. it is the only thing holding them back. i mean the hell with a coaching staff that throws bubble screens on 3rd and long or a defense that cant stop the sister marys school of 8 year old girls from running they football…..none of that matters it is just the qb’s fault.
oh yeah and sense we get to throw around opinions…..if tanny had thrown for 400 yards per game and 18 td’s i say the defense would have given up 19 and they would still lose.
Of course you say something like this
The ball was placed perfectly is the important part you overlooked
It was perfect that day
And everything came together from there
Probably an electronic festival
Anyone know anything about this guy
Piggy, you think blocking has to do with an offense’s success? Just wondering? LOL
Of course it does
But you know as well as I do that our offense was designed to thrive on YAC
And that perfectly placed slant to Matthews in the Houston game was the way it was supposed to work
Landry, Parker, Stills and Cameron are all well below 30 years old. The sky is the limit with these guys. Don’t ignore it.
yeah, and then you have a wide open Matthews going across the field and he throws it high and behind him. the inconsistency is there and can’t be ignored. The fact that he hit Matthews perfectly on the slant was great but people act like it’s something he does all the time and it’s just not true. he’s no more accurate now with his ball placement then he was at A&M.
GD
[Stone has] taught reporters how to achieve perfect double-dimples underneath their tie knots”, according to Labash.[3] Washington journalist Victor Gold has noted Stone’s reputation as “one of the capital’s smartest dressers”.[53]
In the military we were taught you can tell if a person is left handed or right handed by a tied neck tie knot.
GD if like Stone you will probably like the CNN documentary about American politics on the road to the White House with Kevin Spacey. The show last week had the Abe Lincoln election and they said Abe wasn’t so honest when there was a contested election like Trump is going to have. Lots of dirty tricks.
http://www.cnn.com/shows/race-for-the-white-house
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/716411786199740416
Look another pissing contest😂
Tim Knight says:
April 2, 2016 at 8:50 pm
Piggy, you think blocking has to do with an offense’s success? Just wondering? LOL
you dont need blocking when you have a qb that throws every single pass on time and accurate. you know like every other qb in the league.
what kind of blocking are you talking about? run blocking? pass blocking? again, a lot of people have this misconception that the pass protection was inadequate but, AGAIN, if you go back and LOOK at the coaches film you’re going to see differently. Plenty of plays with more than enough time to make an accurate throw or go thru progressions. But, I’ve said this before and appears that everyone would rather just keep making statements that have no basis in fact rather than finding out for themselves.
First, Tannehill wasn’t sacked 45 times last season; it was 36. The fact that he decided to pull the ball down when he had more than enough time to make a throw, with more than one receiver as an option, is on HIM. His receivers DID their jobs and some have said Stills, Jennings and Cameron didn’t do theirs but the film says differently. More often than not Tannehill’s wr’s and te’s gave him multiple options to throw to on plays and it was up to him to make the correct decision.
When you’ve got a wr like Parker 1 on 1 going to the corner of the end zone what would you do? Wouldn’t you put the ball in a spot that allows him to use his height and his leaping ability to make a play on the ball? Well, Tannehill thought it would be better to throw it to a spot where only the db had a shot at making the catch.
If you have a te that has the leaping ability of Cameron going to the corner of the end zone how would you throw the ball? Wouldn’t you throw it up to give Cameron a chance to use his leaping ability to go up over the db and grab the ball for a td? Wouldn’t you at least put it in the end zone? Well, multiple times Tannehill threw it out of the back corner of the end zone, giving Cameron NO chance to make the catch. All from inside the 10 too.
These are all plays where he had no pressure to get rid of the ball quickly or where he had to scramble to buy time. But, we want to continue with the discussion that, somehow, he had not the time to make plays.
The Flying Pig says:
April 2, 2016 at 8:47 pm
Of course you say something like this
oh ok. sorry. i should just let you say what you want. how dare i respond with common sense and point out the obvious when you go off the charts
if I make a post about Tannehill’s accuracy
Echoing some one else’s post
It probably doesn’t lack common sense
Obviously I’m not the only one that feels that way at it
You are just so desperate to defend him
And then pretend you aren’t and its something else you want to say
Anything but defend Tannehill
That the best way to do that its to warp some one else’s post
And claim it lacks common sense
Face it
You are a Tannehill apologist
Once you come to terms with that these discussions will be a lot more productive for both of us😮
FFR,
Keep in mind that, while Tannehill may not have been able to audible to a different play at the line that could have helped in some circumstances, the choice as to what receiver to throw to on most plays was his to take. Yes, there were quick screens, slants, etc that were called and that’s where the play was designed to go but in most cases he made the choice when he had 3 or 4 wr’s in a pattern. So, just like the Indy game where he has Parker wide open in the middle of the field at the 1st down marker, with NO pressure on a 3rd and long, and chooses to throw short to Miller and not get the first it was HIS choice to go that way. Wasn’t the call. He also had a play against the Titans with the 2 outside receivers going to the end zone with NO pressure and instead of throwing it to one of them he chose to throw it at the back of Miller in the middle of the field and almost threw an int. his decision making is very questionable. four years in the league.
lou,
thats fine. i am not here defending tanny. i have never said tanny is the solution. i just like when some go over the top with opinionated comments like they are facts.
i myself prefer to blame the whole shit of the team they are then just pick on one position that is so overrated as the only thing a team needs to win a SB. the fins had in my opinion the best passing qb to ever play the game and how many SB’s did he win cause of the lack of the rest of a team around him.
but you guys just go ahead and bust on the qb position like it is the end all be all
well then, I misunderstood and apologize
But, I’ve said this before and appears that everyone would rather just keep making statements that have no basis in fact rather than finding out for themselves.
First, Tannehill wasn’t sacked 45 times last season; it was 36. The fact that he decided to pull the ball down when he had more than enough time to make a throw, with more than one receiver as an option, is on HIM.
oh ok. hmmm i get it now. stupid me so everything every one else says has no basis but everything you say does. even when you twist the stats to back you up. every single person would say there was 45 sacks but cause you didnt like 9 of them they dont count.
well hell, if that is the case then i say it doesnt matter they were outscored 10 times last year. i say 9 of those games that some of the opponents points dont count cause the def wasnt ready. so basically they really won the sb.
it’s not a matter of having a personal opinion on something. it’s pretty clear that when you watch those 9 sacks that there was no reason for them happening other than Tannehill “taking” them. When you have 2 of 4 or 3 of 4 receivers open and CHOOSE not to make the throw even though there’s adequate time who is the sack on? We’re not looking at a situation where the pressure was immediate. When a qb is STARING at his receivers and doesn’t let the ball go what is the excuse?
there’s no other way to put it; there were 9 unnecessary sacks last season that were on the qb and I’ve been told I’m not the only one that came up with that figure.
Perfect example, and this is just one, he has Sims short over the middle with no defender in sight and he’s looking right at him, has his arm back like he’s going to throw and pulls the ball down. Sims is in the center of the field, right in front of Tannehill and Tannehill could run to Sims if he wanted to. But, he doesn’t make the throw. Pulls it down and is sacked instead. Why?
lou
and with that said, you should know i am just having some fun on a sat night. dont take anything i say personal or serious. the only person i am ever serious with is tim, but that is just cause i am afraid he will kill all the squirrels in my yard.
and remember to me the whole damn team sucks. if you want to shoot tanny that is fine with me, just leave lauren alone
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
April 2, 2016 at 9:40 pm
well then, I misunderstood and apologize
come on lou. that isnt needed, you have no need to apologize to me. like i said all in good fun
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
April 2, 2016 at 9:56 pm
it’s not a matter of having a personal opinion on something. it’s pretty clear that when you watch those 9 sacks that there was no reason for them happening other than Tannehill “taking” them.
lol. yes. that is exactly what it is a personal opinion. in YOUR opinion he took the sack. in others he didnt. you are just taking something you want that isnt a fact but calling it one to support your opinion. i wonder how many times he avoided taking a sack throughout the year by moving or escaping the pocket. but i am sure those dont count cause then they wouldnt support your OPINION
you HAVE a receiver open you can throw it to and you’re staring right at him and have your arm in a throwing motion but decide not to throw the ball to him and the sack is on the offensive line. interesting.
Sniffing a trade Mike E
https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/716400761492492288
There’s a lot of examples of Tannehill’s misfires last season
But there are probably more examples of it being a touchy subject around here
It leads to many an argument 😁
Prof Lou has been posting examples of sacks that were avoidable by Tannehill on Twitter
And it’s pretty persuasive stuff
But everyone knows around here that I’m not Tannehill’s highest supporter
So I’m not hard to convince
But the evidence is definately there
Face it
You are a Tannehill apologist
Once you come to terms with that these discussions will be a lot more productive for both of us😮
sure if it makes you happy, whatever it takes for you to see ALL the flaws of this POS team and not just harp on one player.
oh yeah now admit you are blind to the rest of the team and can only see one player and not how bad the rest of the team it. face it you are only a qb hater. (i mean fair is fair in saying what the other must do)
btw, if you think anything we do here is productive you are wrong
I’m not blind though
I’ve been talking about our other weaknesses for a long time
I’ve been demanding we draft LBs practically everyday
I’ve even supported drafting OL early – which is not the norm for me
I just include Tannehill’s play as a weakness
And that doesn’t always go over well
Plus I’m just busting your balls
So don’t take it so personal
I think you are in the closet about your Tannehill support…lol
You always find a way to minimilaze the criticism levied against him
lou,
again i ask how many times did he do something to avoid a sack? how many times did he make a accurate pass only for it dropped. you guys that just want to bash a part of the team using stats always twist them how you want.
i can careless about stats or tanny. the whole team sucks. i am just pointing out how you dont look at things fairly just cause you hate a player/position so much.
I think he actually numbered the times on Twitter
I trying to tell you – it’s supported by the tape
Sniff sniff! I think I drank at least a bottle of wine tonight with dinner. Great night though with some good friends. Go Kaepersniffer!
Plus I’m just busting your balls
So don’t take it so personal
I think you are in the closet about your Tannehill support…lol
You always find a way to minimilaze the criticism levied against him
pretty sure i have stated over and over on here there is nothing you or any one says to me i take personal. it is just a simple blog. and yeah i am in the closet but it has nothing to do with tanny, you sweet looking little cutie piggy you (dont tell ken i said that).
and once again. tanny sucks, he is part of the problem with this team. not sure how that is minimizing the criticism. i just dont think like most on here that a great qb is the solution. i have said over and over and over and every one ignores it. this team had one of the greatest qb’s to ever play the game and never won a SB. so you guys just keep harping on tanny not being great. cause that is the problem
We ne fed a grea qb to make the playoffs in the offense we were running
I also think even in a less pas oriented offense
You need a great qb
And not having once can kill your team
piggy and lou,
ok great i agree tanny was the cause of some sacks. whew, problems solved. maybe you guys should email ross. i mean you guys got the solution to why the def and the rest of the team sucked so bad.
great so now the team is SB bound cause you guys proved he is the cause of 9 sacks
It doesn’t make a difference what we think about n the grand scheme of things
But I watch the moves the team makes
I watch the players
I do both with skepticism
And I decide what to expect from there
Right now it’s looking like I might not be making slatterys every week I. September
Which is probably better for my health and pocket book
You’re right, It’s MY OPINION that Tannehill was a complete and total fucking idiot for taking the sack on the play where he had Sims wide open and was staring right at him and chose not to throw the ball. Only thing I can figure is he had to go to the bathroom and wanted to get off the field.
And…he was the same on the other 8 sacks as well. JMHO.
lou,
ok like i said great. i wont even argue logically about you not taking into consideration when he helped avoid a sack. you got it. you solved the problems of the entire season. tanny gave up 9 sacks. i mean hell they could be sb victors with that great oline that only gave up 35 or whatever sacks. if only tanny didnt give up 9 sacks the season would have been sooooooooo much better.
‘Which is probably better for my health and pocket book’
i agree with you there piggy. i dont think i have spent a penny on this team in any way shape or form in 3 years. if they want my money they need to start playing like the fins of old
It’s not bad to have your Sunday’s free
FFR,
It’s not about the flaws of Tannehill. He doesn’t have any flaws. Don’t you know that. The defense can’t stop the run, can’t defend the pass, give up too many points and the offensive line can’t run block or pass protect and the coaches suck, the game plan sucks, the play calling sucks and the offensive and defensive schemes both suck. But, Tannehill is perfect. He never makes a mistake. WE see that Tannehill not being great isn’t the problem. Others would like to believe that Tannehill is great; that he can throw for 4,500 yds and 30+ td’s on a consistent basis and that’s just delusional.
yes, this team needs a better defense and it needs a better rushing attack. however, it doesn’t matter how much more you protect the qb because THAT is not the problem. He could be sacked a more reasonable 32 times in a season and it’s not going to increase the offensive output but people believe that Tannehill could be so much better if it weren’t for this, or it weren’t for that. THEY blame everyone else. Tannehill is what he is and that’s all he’s going to be and like I said before, I hope the powers that be within the Phins organization spend minimal time trying to make him into something he’s not and work on other areas of the offense and on the defense where they will maximize their ROI.
I think our pass protection was bad
I think Tannehill makes it look worse
The play calling and offense also made it look worse
I’m not sure the personel is as bad as the stats
But I don’t think it’s crazy to take OL very early
Maybe if we add the right player early and we are healthy
We can be an elite OL
If we went OL 1st
And RB – 2nd
Would it be so bad?
We might be able to be a team that runs effectively in each game
If we improve OL
But I agree with your general setiment
That the problems on the OL appear greater than they are bc of some of the surrounding factors
lou,
like i said, since you got it all solved maybe you should email ross and let him know the solution. just replace tanny. problem solved. hell i am sure getting rid of tanny will fix world hunger too.
The Flying Pig says:
April 2, 2016 at 10:58 pm
It’s not bad to have your Sunday’s free
if by free you mean i am not spending any money on them yes. but i am sure i will be a gluten for punishment and watch tanny take his 9 or 10 unnecessary sacks and not be able to mount any 4th qtr drives and watch the def give up several 3rd and longs every game and watch a line that cant block and a coaching staff that cant coach.
You don’t know that about the coaching staff yet 😝
piggy,
i agree i dont know but i have my faith in how bad they will be. if just goes with being a fins fan.
and as far as the draft i still like your idea you said a long long time ago. just go all defense this draft then maybe next year work on the offense.
i know a bit extreme but hey that is my specialty
I like that idea too
But it doesn’t work anymore after we let Miller go and failed to sign Cj Anderson
We have to spend some of the day 1 or 2 picks on offense now
Okay, Tannehill threw for over 4,200 yards last year throwing just 6 yard passes. Can we be anymore juvenile? LOL
piggy
and i disagree with you about not knowing now the coaching staff sucks. OD has told us ross is the worst owner ever in the history of anyone who owns anything and that he cant make good decisions. so i know the coaching staff sucks lol
Can we be anymore juvenile?
is that a challenge
I currently farting the star bangled banner
Piggy,
I was just saying the same things about the offense. We’ve got Albert, Pouncey and James and a couple newbies who maybe we could find a RG from and if we took Conklin in the first and we get ourselves a rb who can split some reps with Ajayi then the offense should be good to go. We get that rushing attack to where we need it to be and with the wr’s and te’s we’ve got our offense will be in good shape.
I realize the defense needs to be fixed as well but if we address the offense in the first two rounds with Conklin and MY guy Dixon we are finished there. Then we can pick up some pieces on the defensive side. We still have some DE’s and LB’s that should be around in the 3rd as well as a CB or two.
It could end up
At the end of the day
Being a great OL if we drafted a Conklin
And I would like to be great at something
So that move right be there for us
My only problem with going OL and RB early
Is that our defense needs so much work
And I don’t like wasting Suhs talent for another year
lou,
i like your optimism that the d can be fixed with 3rd round on picks but i just dont feel that. i think the def was the worst part of the team last year. i think the talent just wasnt there where with the offense i think the talent was there but just horrible game planning. but then again i spend the majority of my time looking for the cheerleaders on the sidelines so what do i know.
oh yeah and boobies. (just wanted to get good and juvenile for tim)
The Flying Pig says:
April 2, 2016 at 11:41 pm
I currently farting the star bangled banner
ha, i beat you i said boobies earlier.
hey tim……….peepee
I’ll just say the more I think about it if we took Conklin he solves our LG spot once and for all and if we took Dixon in the 2nd I wouldn’t be able to unstick my keyboard for weeks.
We can solve the offensive issue in one draft. Conklin is a plug ‘n play guy on the line. You put him at LG and we’ve GOT to be able to find a suitable RG out of one of the other guys. yeah, there’s always injuries but that’s another conversation.
We bring in another rb who can split reps with Ajayi and give us a rushing game that can get us where we need to be and limit those three and out’s that’s also going to help out the defense.
We lost at least 3 games last season because of stalled out drives on offense. Way too many 3 and out’s. We’ve got to limit those and get an offense that can at least put some drives together.
In ’14 we averaged 24 ppg. We had 12 rushing td’s and 27 passing td’s. This past year we averaged 19.4 ppg and we had 11 rushing td’s and 24 passing td’s. Not a big difference is it? We went from 11th to 27th in scoring offense because of 4 touchdowns.
It would be fund to watch
But Dixon is not my #1 pick at RB (after Elliot)
I like Booker and Collins and Howard a lot
I happen to like Ajayi as well
So I want to see some one split carries with him
ok guys i am out. this hangover isnt going away unless i sleep it off.
lou, it was fun chatting with you been a long time. nice to see you around here.
piggy, well it is always fun. btw, making a pound of your family in the am. time for some big ass bacon sandwiches in the morning. fresh cuban bread and bacon, nothing better in the morning.
Disgusting 🐽
Just told the wife to find the new packet of popcorn so I can heat it up when you lot get going again tomorrow. It has been entertaining I must admit.
Hello
good to see you man. How is everything?
GD here’s a book that is very good that I finished reading several months ago,. The Iran-Iraq War, New International Perspectives. It goes back 40-50 years and has some weird stories that are scary. For example, Donald Rumsfield in the early years of his long political career visited Syria on behalf of US to talk about possible solutions to war and middle East. As a gift from Syria he was given a video tape VHS of Syrian women eating off heads of live snakes. He gave golf balls signed by Reagan.
I read this just out of high school and it changed the way I thought about the middle east!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haj
looks like a very good book on someone’s struggles during troubling times . Been reading a lot of Holocaust new material that has recently been released after being sealed 70 plus years. Very interesting how everyday people were brain washed from prominent people like lawyers,doctors and the elite of society when they started the movement.
Lou says,
Tannehill is what he is and that’s all he’s going to be and like I said before, I hope the powers that be within the Phins organization spend minimal time trying to make him into something he’s not and work on other areas of the offense and on the defense where they will maximize their ROI.
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I don’t buy for one minute that RT is what we’ve seen so far. I will say that I think his stats were inflated last yr, because he got lots of yards after several games got out of hand. It was so obvious that Philbin didn’t have the team ready to play, after Campbell came in and saw they weren’t physical, and did what he did.
I think RT is an alien weapon of mass destruction waiting to break out, but for whatever reason the coaching staff stunted his growth. We’ll see this yr, if it all comes to fruition.
Pig, you might want to give Rob a job, this may be the most lawyeristic thing he’s ever said, as he takes what Lou said and discredits it:
lol. yes. that is exactly what it is a personal opinion. in YOUR opinion he took the sack. in others he didnt. you are just taking something you want that isnt a fact but calling it one to support your opinion.
THIS IS THE PART I”M TALKING ABOUT:
i wonder how many times he avoided taking a sack throughout the year by moving or escaping the pocket. but i am sure those dont count cause then they wouldnt support your OPINION.
To which Lou responds:
you HAVE a receiver open you can throw it to and you’re staring right at him and have your arm in a throwing motion but decide not to throw the ball to him and the sack is on the offensive line. interesting.
Don’t be scared FFR be patient!
I know Im late to the party but what is Lou’s twitter handle?
I just watched RTs highlight reel that Tim posted last night at 7:58 PM, and I know that he’s not perfect, but he was darn near on every play in the reel. We really don’t know what happens on any given play, or why he isn’t more accurate, but one play I’ll never forget is the pass he threw to Sims last yr that got him hurt was all on RT (I think his mechanics were poor on the play, didn’t square up to the target).
After watching those highlights there’s no doubt in my mind, that in the right system he can be an SB winning QB. Not saying its going to happen, but I can’t rule out that it won’t. I know they’re just highlights and I really don’t like them in general, but what they do show is what the ceiling is, and his can be very high.
I think a lot of the criticism on RT is overblown. People expect him to be perfect and he is not. He misses throws from time to time. So does Tom Brady. I think the biggest knock on him is that despite having lots of talent he doesn’t seem to rise to the occasion when needed. However, that is often as a result of many things but as the QB he gets most of the blame. Some of the blame belongs on him but the fact of the matter is that he has been on a flawed team with flawed coaching for all of his pro career.
he needs more of a will to win. At times it seems he doesn’t care whether we win the game or not as long as he’s not the reason we’re losing. Have you ever seen RT fired up on the sideline like brady?
We’ll see but I doubt we’ll ever win anything with RT unless we have a great running game and defense. Marino got us into the playoffs every year with no rushing attack or defense. I doubt RT can ever do that.
That’s true about people expecting him to be perfect. He makes a completion during any game and some on here are talking about, if the ball was thrown to a better spot…After reading these types of comments I’ve noticed Brady as well throwing a lot of passes that aren’t perfect.
True also that he doesn’t rise to the occasion, but I think it may have to do with him being handicapped, because he isn’t allowed to change the play. How retarded is it to see a blitz coming presnap and yet you have to sit there and can’t do much about it? Lazor and Philbin deserved each other, both egotistical assholes.
Here’s an article from the ESPN Lions report that gives a scouting report on Quddus
http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolphins/post/_/id/20461/dolphins-free-agent-scouting-report-s-isa-abdul-quddus
But I’m not buying it that he can be a quality starter, because Omar says he isn’t any better than Michael Thomas, SMH.
Seasoned scout Omar is on the scene. LOL
The wind was so strong last night it tore off part the roof on our covered porch. It’s not traditional roofing, it’s like a weird aluminum covering. Not a big deal, just crazy how powerful the wind was. I heard crashing and banging all night.
We can definitely win with Tannehill. I expect to see a much more… uhhhh… what’s the word… logical offense this year. LOL
A lot of our bad press lately with the offseason moves has been due to Omar and Walker telling the national media they aren’t sure about the FA moves, so the national media takes it as no improvement.
Take someone like Grimes, he didn’t fit in Joseph’s scheme and doesn’t match up with the division WRs, and compare him to Maxwell who does fit the system and will be playing in a system he’s played at a high level in. To me that’s an upgrade.
Same thing basically with Alonso, and he’s an upgrade at MLB, just for showing up.
OV vs Mario is at least even, but most of us feel that’s an upgrade as well.
I don’t see how Quddus can be any worse than what we had at safety last yr.
Shelby vs Branch might not be an upgrade, but we’re talking about a backup,
Miller would be the only position we really haven’t upgraded, but I think it’s addition by subtraction in that with Miller gone we’ll actually have a back in that can run the ball when there’s a good chance the play is going to be a run. A healthy Ajayi I believe will be that guy, but I don’t think he’ll be our best back in 2016.
Branch and Shelby have been basically the same player in their careers. I think that’s a wash.
I’d take Mario Williams over OV everyday.
We can find a RB in the draft to pair up with Ajayi and have a productive tandem. I don’t think that will be difficult to do. We just need the overall tailback production to do what they’re asked. We don’t need gaudy numbers. But we need the coaching staff to stay committed to the run when it’s working and even sometimes when it’s not to keep the defense honest. I see so many teams do that even when they’re only getting 2-4 yards, they don’t go away from it. At the first sniff of being behind in the game Lazor would go away from the running game and it was absurd.
Shelby is better than Branch. Branch has been a disappointment as a pro
Ken, how is Shelby better than Branch? There numbers are pretty much the same. Branch is not the pass rusher he was expected to be but he’s considered to be good against the run and he’s gotten his share of sacks 14 as a backup rotation player.
Ken says:
April 3, 2016 at 10:54 am
I think a lot of the criticism on RT is overblown. People expect him to be perfect and he is not. He misses throws from time to time. So does Tom Brady. I think the biggest knock on him is that despite having lots of talent he doesn’t seem to rise to the occasion when needed.
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This is my biggest fear with Tannehill, that he does not have that killer instinct. That is something that can’t be taught, it’s either in you or it isn’t.
I think the killer instinct thing is overplayed. This idea RT doesn’t care and it’s no big deal what happens in a game is silly. The guy goes out there and competes and gets his ass beaten and he keeps getting up and slinging it. Our team as a whole has not played good complimentary football and there are lots of reasons for that.
Hopefully the new coaching staff along with some new personnel changes that.
By the way what is RT suppose to do to have a killer instinct? It’s such a difficult thing to judge. Our team hasn’t been that good since he’s been here.
3rd and long. Tannehill’s got two receivers that go deep enough to get the first and he can get the ball to them to at least have a chance at getting the first down IF he makes the decision to throw to one of them but, instead, he throws it short to a guy who needs to beat multiple defenders to the first down marker. 4th down!! The Killer Instinct is overplayed.
Go look at how many times we had 3 and out’s because of this douchebag you call a qb.
There was another play where he had two underneath receivers and 3 others who took everyone else deep but he didn’t make the throw to either of those guys because they were blanketed by the referee.
Okay, off to see “Zootopia” with the kids. Have a great day all!
Yes, highlight reels reveal all and that’s why the coaches throw out the coaches film come the Monday review and just watch the highlights instead; because they show so much more.
You’re taking this to levels I’m not even sure why you bother. You don’t like the guy. Whatever! He’s my team’s QB and I support him. Have fun knocking the guy. I’m not interested.
Opening day baby! LET’S GO METS!!!!!
steveccnv says:
April 3, 2016 at 11:19 am
That’s true about people expecting him to be perfect. He makes a completion during any game and some on here are talking about, if the ball was thrown to a better spot…After
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It goes both ways. “people expecting him to be perfect” but you’ve got a whole herd of fans who think he’s something more than what we’ve seen; “if only the protection was better” you would see how good he is.
I just want the guy to be competent. When you look at his throw on the quick screens and his knack for placing the ball BEHIND his receiver instead of out front where it should be so they can continue to run rather than having to stop, jump or spin around to make the catch it’s frustrating.
I keep hearing the same thing. “people want him to be perfect and because he doesn’t put EVERY throw where it needs to be they criticize him”.
Dude, if it were that simple we wouldn’t be having this conversation but on those quick screens I just mentioned 9/10 or 10/10 times he’ll put the ball in a bad spot. If it was just one or two times I could care less.
Let me just say this one last thing and then I’m finished with the Tannehill debate. I’d rather talk draft.
I’m to the point right now where I’d rather we take Elliot in the first and Whitehair or Garnett in the 2nd or Conklin in the first and Henry, Dixon or Booker in the 2nd just so we can get to the point where we could stop having these discussions about how good Tannehill is and see once and for all what he can really do.
If I am wrong, then so be it because I’d put a winning football team above my ego any day. Losing games because of the defense is another discussion but let’s fix the o-line and get a running game to compliment the qb and see what he’s all about because if he can truly get the job done we will definitely see when we have the o-line fixed and have a good running game.
Lou
Not really adding to the Tannehill debate, but I’d have to think, and I include myself in this group, that feel that Tannehill has to step up and be the guy we hoped he could be this year. I can’t imagine we’re going to have an OC or Head Coach to blame for asinine play calling and game planning, and I also expect the O-line to be better than last year with our healthy guys in there, plus the addition of one or 2 competent starters, either via FA or draft. This is it for Tannehill. He has to do it, or we need to look elsewhere. Whatever you think the Tannehill “apologists” are saying, I’m pretty sure that everyone realizes that this is his make or break year, with no more excuses. Do you agree with that, or disagree?
The wind was insane last night. Pretty sure the wind was stronger last night than it was during Hurricane Sandy. It was loud, lots of banging, rattling, I was pretty sure it was going to be a mess, and I thought maybe some shudders or siding was knocked loose, but everything is copacetic. It did sound like trouble though.
LOL, I thought people were in my house and my wife and daughter are down the sure. I heard noises I’ve never heard before. Crazy!
This discussion about Tanny is simple. He’s not the best we could do and he isn’t the worst. He has shortcomings he MUST get better at to become anything other than JAG at the position and yes there are points of failure PURELY on him. There were also a lot of factors working against him last year, so I’ll wait and see, but thinking anything more than a maybe with him right now is overblown optimism. He didn’t prove anything last year, in fact he kinda put more pressure on making a BIG leao forward on himself this coming year.
I wouldn’t mind Lou’s option of Conklin in round 1. Solidifies LG this year and LT in the future. If you did that and Dixon in Round 2 I think you’ve solidified the offense, health given. The depth in OL is better right now so hopefully if we had another rash of injuries well at least have capable OTs to fill in along w/ a true Center/OG in Ubrick.
Could roll with that
MikeE/Others,
Wasn’t last year Tanny’s make or break year? Lol. Point being: the Tanneholics will always find a reason he doesn’t get it done. The kid is being given 5 flipping years! What other player gets that? Tannehill is the only player who gets excuse after excuse for his lack of play making. He’s the only one people bitch about others bitching about. Lol
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I’m really not looking for him to improve all that much. I think they’ll have to scale back what Gase wants to do on offense due to Tannehill’s limitations. He wants guys to be able to make multiple reads and exploit mismatches. Tannehill rarely does that. He takes the “easy” throw most of the time and rarely puts pressure on the defense. Wallace used to get open constantly. Tannehill missed him or didn’t even throw to him, and people wondered why Wallace got pissed! Cameron got open plenty last year too…but people rag on him for his lack of production. Tannehill almost never threatens the middle deep of the field because he’s to busy throwing 6 yard passes to the flats.
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We may as well accept this team will go nowhere until we build this top 5 defense everyone thinks will just happen. Hopefully, in 3 years maybe we can win a playoff game. Yay.
You have so many entrenched opinions about the guy that you’re probably not even capable of seeing he can basically do anything. Everything you say he can’t do I’ve seen him do at a high level. It’s about consistency. I don’t think RT has any limitations. But putting it altogether at a specific level is something only the greats do. That’s what we’re asking him to be. He may not ever be that but I’m not sold he’s hit his ceiling and that’s that. I’ve seen QBs take their games to another level later in their careers and most of the best QB play are guys closer to their 30s.
Remember Steve Young was a once considered a bust.
Randy, you rarely throw out any complements about any players on our team. They’re all not as good as someone else thinks they are so there’s that. You’re just one of those guys. LOL
He can do ANYTHING? Really? Show us THAT because it’s nowhere to be found. Tim, doing things at a high level includes being consistent. If you’re performing at a high level you ARE consistent. How is anyone performing at a high level and being inconsistent at the same time?
When you attempt 588 passes in a season, you’re bound to throw a few good one’s here and there.
Randy
C’mon now, that’s just silly. He improved every single year in the 4 years before last season. Last year was a step back for the entire team. I most definitely did not feel that last year was a make or break season for him, I just thought he’d continue his improvement, maybe into the next tier of QB’s, but it didn’t happen, and it certainly wasn’t all on him why that didn’t happen. This season I feel like he has to show improvement, and mostly because I think he’ll be given what he needs to do so. There shouldn’t be any reason why he doesn’t do it this year.
I don’t view RT as on his last chance. His numbers don’t suggest any of that. People talk about the guy like he’s Christian Ponder, Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert and he’s on a whole other level.
What’s going to happen is if we don’t start winning as a TEAM the entire thing is going to get blown up a couple of years from now. This team is constructed for a 2 year window. Just look at the contracts. You don’t have the guys we have signed to big money for a 3-4 year building process. No teams can do that, there is too much turnover. Only teams completely starting over are on a 3-4 year window.
We haven’t been a good team overall but lets keep beating the same drum about one guy like he’s the reason. It’s so boring and inaccurate. Tannehill is one of our best players, not the problem. We have/had other positions filled with mediocre or sub par players that have effected the outcomes of games way more than he.
Let’s hope for the best as fans and hope good seasons are ahead of us. We all know how this business works if that doesn’t happen.
Agreed.
I think everyone is hoping for the best.
No one is hoping he fails, there are some though less confident about him succeeding and there are people who are tired of waiting. I agree enough with statements about the entire team looking out of whack to feel somewhat optimistic about him bouncing back next year, but I am also at the end of my rope and expect to see not just improvement over last year but improvement from the year before. He does that and I’ll gladly forget last year happened.
MikeE,
People keep saying he improved every year. Good for him, but i think that’s a red herring. First, he was VERY inexperienced when he was overdrafted. So, of course he would improve, but has it been significant? Second, he improved in certain areas but not in others, so that argument is really not inclusive of everything that should be considered. Third, all those improvements have gotten him to an average QB….so why are we excited about that? Lastly, he has yet to improve on a lot of things that have made him an average QB, so I think he’s plateaued. I think he deserves credit for being a hard worker, but that’s about it. I don’t pat guys on the back for being average. That should be the basement expectation. Is he more than a volume thrower, or is he a winner? I think he’s a stat guy who will never win games for you in big moments.
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And maybe you didn’t, but almost everyone on this board said he needed to step up last year…many claiming he would and just expected it. Remember the 30 TDs conversations? Lol
So, if we could add one guy to the offensive line and a running back in the 2nd rd who, along with Ajayi would give us one of the scariest running back tandems in the league along with a wr corps and te corps that can compete with any in the league would you do it or no?
If we could crack the top ten in scoring offense with just two additions to the offense would you take that shot?
Or, where on the defensive side of the ball do you see the same type of potential if we went defense in the first two rounds?
Discuss.
This is an open book quiz by the way. LOL
Round 1 Pick 13: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida
Round 2 Pick 11: Jalen Mills, FS/FS, LSU
how do we score points. If we take defense in the first two rounds we’re still throwing the ball 37 times a game because we’ve got no rushing attack.
I’d take the 2 O players and come back in RD3 and take a Jenkins, Koufusi, or Nassib and feel very good about the teams prospects….if healthy.
Darron Lee, OLB/ILB, Ohio State
Jalen Mills, FS/FS, LSU
Tim,
And I’m usually right. So there’s that. You claim Tannehill doesn’t have pocket management issues. He clearly does, so what is it you “see” that tells you he doesn’t? You take a play here and there to support your opinion when the majority of his play suggests just the opposite. Seeing a guy do something every now and then does not mean he’s doing it consistently. And, after 4 years, why is he still inconsistent?
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Steve Young is also not sold on Tannehill. He questions his QB knowledge and background. He has said some of the same things I’ve been saying for years….that Tannehill is a good athlete trying to play QB.
Or still learning and developing. He’s 27 not 34. Those of you who have made up your mind about him use heavy assumptions based purely on opinion as fact. That’s where the divide starts. Those of us who support him and think he can still get better are using the positive signs he’s shown and there’s not one throw he can’t make and very few QBs are as athletic and as mobile as he is at his size.
I think he can be a very good QB for a long time.
We’re not the one’s looking at a 45 pass highlight reel and saying he’s got what it takes to be in the upper echelon of passers in the NFL.
The only “assumptions” being made are the assumptions that he can be something he’s never shown the ability to be and if there’s evidence to support that “fact” then show us but when you say things without anything to support it all you’re doing is stating and “opinion”.
Randy
I guess I don’t get the red herring thing. I expected him to improve last year, but didn’t think it was must. Honestly, we create these timelines ourselves. Years ago, QB’s, and I mean great QB’s were given a year or two before there was even a thought of them starting. things have changed, and yes, some QB’s show well right away, but like you said, Tannehill was a very inexperienced QB coming to the team, and he started immediately, and played better each season until last season. I think the main reason why I gave him this season as an artificial deadline, is because his salary will increase to the point where he has to be the type of QB that is playing well enough to win most games. If he’s not there, then we do have to make a decision as to whether he’s worth that type of contract. Otherwise, timeline doesn’t mean much, let him take as much time as he needs to progress.
He basically had the same season last year as in 2014 with different ups and downs in his numbers. It was pretty much a flat line season. Overall he didn’t go up. That’s probably where the ‘hit his ceiling’ thing comes from. Again he’s still very young and hasn’t been on a very good team, let’s be honest and it’s not all because of him. Maybe if he was this super elite guy he’d have made us better, but there we go again asking for elite play. Wouldn’t we want that at every position? We’d win all the time. LOL
Ok. I’ve taken the heat off Lou enough for one day. Lol
Later haters.
LOL – Good job Randy, I’m sure Lou appreciates the effort. lol
hey, if you can’t take the heat; get out of the kitchen. I can care less about “opinions” because until someone shows enough “evidence” that he’s what they say he is then all it is in opinion with no basis in fact.
Tim
You know I agree with you, but there is kind of a window salary wise, because after this year, we start paying him close to $18M per season, with a $20M cap hit, which isn’t outrageous, but it’s high enough that he has to be playing at a higher level than he did last season.
I think people in the organization look at the entire picture and don’t use biases like the fans and media do. I always try to look at it from an organizational standpoint, not an emotional one with a FFL approach. That’s why I don’t go bonkers about too many moves we make. I don’t go in with a bias so I don’t react that way. That’s what makes me get the everything is grand and sunshine and lollipops act. I’m more even Steven than over the top.
I’m not worried about Tannehill. He’s not the issue for me as a fan. Like young pitchers, if they have the stuff you keep working with them. But fans start trade scenarios after 3 bad starts and they want top shelf compensation for the guy they thinks sucks. LOL
I just don’t roll that way so that’s where my line in the sand comes from I guess. It’s fluid for me, not definitive.
Lou
You haven’t shown evidence of anything to the contrary either. Showing 6 plays where Tannehill made mistakes is a drop in the bucket. He’s thrown the ball 1400 times, so what weight can you put on 6 plays? If I show you a highlight reel where he makes 20 good plays, does that make him a better QB? Uhhhh, nope!
If it were just 6 plays we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
2,248 pass attempts.
Lou
Kenneth Dixon Is my favorite but there are a couple that I like in the later rounds as good!
Paul Perkins In the 3rd/4th
C.J. Prosise In the 3rd or 4th
As far as an OT
Germain Ifedi in the 2nd
John Theus in the 3rd
Spencer Drango in the 4th
We signed an OT in FA as a back-up and possible OG
And I am really OK with taking an OT/OG early in the draft!
Actually I think it would be stupid not too!!!!!!!!!!!!
But a RB?
Not this year!
Next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://walterfootball.com/draft2017RB.php
Honestly the entire RT debate is all opinion based as I mentioned yesterday. People see what they want to see and can over exaggerate one way or the other. It’s really that simple. We need to improve the team overall from a depth perspective along w/ a coaching/scheme and personel usage.
Big Ben wasn’t great his first few yrs, but he was on a great team, RT hasn’t had the luxury other QBs had being on great teams. The bottomline here is will he ever be a real franchise QB, if you think not, Philbin, then of course the majority of what you say is going to be based on that presumption, and vise versa.