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D, (from previous page)
I could care less about personalities or methods. All I care about is wins and losses. If he can’t get us to the playoffs or can’t win more than 8 games then he’s in the same bucket as philbin and sparano and many other coaches that couldn’t be better than mediocre.
Sparano took over a 1 win team and won 11 games and went to the playoffs his first year.
Except it wasn’t the same team. Parcells turned it over quickly.
I don’t know D
I don’t think we really know who GAse is yet
Time will tell
I can say for certainty though that he doesn’t speak like
“You see Chomp chomp chomp you know chomp chomp chomp” or concern himself with gum wrappers on the field and vontae Davis’ bathroom habits
And that refreshing
Plus we’ve been winning – so there’s that
Piggy
WTF man, Zona is completely blank, no injuries? How is that even possible?
I responded to Mando’s tweet and just wondered if other teams reported things differently bc its always lopsided against us?
BoulderPhinfan says:
December 7, 2016 at 3:59 pm
I could care less about personalities or methods. All I care about is wins and losses.
why do people say that? not me, all i care about are the wins.
I care about losses only because it gives me a chance to bitch about the phins 🙂
vontae Davis’ bathroom habits
And that refreshing
well that is just disgusting. you are a pig 😉
Piggy
Let me know what he says. My guess is Zona hasn’t prepared their report yet
Maybe it’s because the time zone thing they don’t report it til a certain time where they are?
Could be. I really have no idea. Maybe the injury report doesn’t have to be out until Thursday
Piggy my feel on players is this. I look at them as the scheme they are in to evaluate my feeling on how they will work for us. Not having these players familiar with 4-3 concepts is like a minus in my mind. It doesnt mean they wont adapt to it, it just means its another brick in the backpack on the hike to becoming great in the NFL. People push through things, people adapt, but if they dont have to it s a lot easier path. The minus doesnt mean i wouldnt draft them, it just means im going to weight them as a pick a little different than i would if i was picking them for the same scheme they came from.
That said, i also look at physical traits, and other intangibles that make for a good player at certain positions, and also to be confident in their ability to adapt to new places. There are some guys that can roll with that kind of change and others that cant.
Tim Williams and Reuben Foster both come from 3-4 systems, as does Zach Cunningham. Tim Williams however is less suited to a move to 4-3 OLB, from 3-4 OLB, than Foster who was a ILB in a 3-4, going to MLB in a 4-3 because the position is much more similar for 1, and Fosters leadership skills and ability to read the defense matches with the intangibles that make for a good 4-3 MLB. Hope that makes sense.
Weve got one thing going for us here in the Orlando market. The Bucs game is 4:05 but I dont think they have the double header this week. If they do will Fox 35 be showing the Fins at 1:00?
Help me Herd, can you post those maps?
BoulderPhinfan says:
December 7, 2016 at 4:01 pm
D, (from previous page)
I could care less about personalities or methods. All I care about is wins and losses. If he can’t get us to the playoffs or can’t win more than 8 games then he’s in the same bucket as philbin and sparano and many other coaches that couldn’t be better than mediocre.
Sparano took over a 1 win team and won 11 games and went to the playoffs his first year.
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I get that, its true, and thats pretty much what i was saying. I meant for it to come off like, he may still wind up being seen like Philbin, in record, thats not something we can tell yet, but i just meant i dont think it will be the same very vanilla passionless coaching performances. I dont think it will be from lack of effort as much as it may just be he is no better at coaching overall. I have a little more confidence that he will be better than i should right now but i am kinda more on the side of the fence that thinks he is more the right guy for us than the others have been.
Sparano may have had one year of good but he had several years of bad too, so when ya look at things from an average perspective you usually throw out the outliers on the high end and the low end. In the end was Sparano really better than Philbin, i feel like no, because it was the same failure to get us relevant despite the change in personality, despite the differnce in coaching, despite one being called a player coach and the other not. Same result, therefore we should feel about them like the same thing, a mistake now in our past.
Bethel, Justin CB Foot/Knee LP – – –
Brown, John WR Illness DNP – – –
Fitzgerald, Larry WR Not Injury Related DNP – – –
Golden, Markus OLB Hamstring DNP – – –
Mathieu, Tyrann S Shoulder DNP – – –
Nkemdiche, Robert DT Elbow LP – – –
Palmer, Carson QB Not Injury Related DNP – – –
Peters, Corey DT Foot LP – – –
Peterson, Patrick CB Knee LP – – –
Rucker, Frostee DT Not Injury Related DNP – – –
Simon, Tharold CB Ankle DNP
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http://www.azcardinals.com/gameday/injury-report.html
Howie: I’ll try to do that later. Going to make some eggnog with my friends so if I’m not too drunkity when I get home I’ll post it then.
This one is CBS, dont know why i posted it, they are not broadcasting the Phins game.
Fox.
Arizona Miami is in yellow.
Evening Update
DOLPHINS-CARDINALS
Old 27-17 MIA
Howie 30-24 MIA
Rock 38-12 ARI
Piggy 35-14 MIA
B’man 35-31 MIA
MikeE 27-26 MIA
Bold 27-21 ARI
Herd 33-27 MIA
BriNY 29-23 MIA
N/A 31-17 ARI
GO PHINS!!!
Howie good buddy
Put me down for MIAMI winning!
20-17
31-24 Miami.. Thanx Howie..
D
Your position makes
and for all I know it might pan out that way
this isn’t a yes or no/right or wrong issue
its just a matter of how much weight you put on one consideration
And traditionally, for me at least, If a player has talent, I tend to think less about scheme fits
Its usually the later picks in the draft where I say to myself “he needs this style to succeed”
So even when guys appear to be 3-4 OLB (which I think applied to Tim Williams as you stated) I keep them on my radar
it seems like this the talent at Alabama is more overwhelming than usual
they are really stacked and these players coming out now might be really good players in the NFL
This, i think is the pair of just rediculous recuiting classes they had finally making it to Jr’s and Sr’s. It is a really stacked team, and they have a couple players that are just so deep under the depth of it that the backups are NFL worthy. There is a DT/DE guy named Da’Shawn Hand who backs up Jonathan Allen, when he is in there there is a little drop off but its not much. I dont know if he is going to declare for the draft or not, but if he does he would be one of those guys you probably still have to draft in the 3rd or 4th just off of his sheer talent and he is a rotational guy for the Tide. Its pretty sick.
This is another Ronde Barber boadcast….im getting so tired of him covering our games lol. Last three he has been covering.
D
Last week was Kevin Harlan and Rich Gannon, on TV that is. Are you talking about radio?
D
Thanks for the ARZ injury report
Oh Boy
We are a smidge north and west of the center of the peninsula so were good…
For some reason our local FOX station doesnt have their TV listings on their web site.
I hate those friggin FOX games and we got screwed when we where in LA
that one should have been on CBS
THANKS D
Somewhere up the post list was a link to an article that said we are not ready to be a playoff team (maybe, maybe not, depends on these next 4 games), and the author does not want us to go to the playoffs and be a one and done team there.
I totally disagree with that last part. Our guys need that time on the big stage so as to know what that is like.
The experience will be good for the next year when we get in again ad our guys will not be so starry-eyed and naive as to what it takes to win a play-off game.
It will toughen them up too.
I agree. Even if they would lose it would be great experience.
I also don’t get the logic of not wanting to make the playoffs
It’s definately an experience to build upon
But I do agree we aren’t really up to that level
I think we are close though
I just think we need to get better use front in defense
D….thanks. Much appreciated! Lol
28 Miami players (more than half) are in year 1, 2, or 3.
We are still a very young team in a bunch of different ways.
Not just age but experience at their positions and very little gel-time with each other.
Even our vets just got to Miami … except Moore, who never plays, and Tannehill and Wake.
Oh and Reshad and Pounce, who have been hurt all yr.
And Denny but that’s the LS for god’s sakes.
No one has played in this Offensive system except maybe the 4th TE and no one in the defensive system except maybe Big Earl. And they weren’t Dolphins.
Not even the coaches have ever run these systems. The coaching staff has been together for 3/4ths of one season so far. They have never coached together in December.
HC – young in years and first time with it all on his shoulders
DC – first time in the job and with a first yr HC, he doesn’t work for The Man. He IS the man.
rookie LG, 3rd yr RT, rg is first yr at OG and w/ the Dolphins, LT is 2nd yr with the Dolphins
2nd yr RB backed by a rook and a 3rd yr UDFA
very inexperienced TE corps, with no one who was ever a starter before this yr.
2 rook WRs, 1 2nd yr, 1 3rd, 1 4th
2nd yr Punter AND 2nd yr PK
On the defensive line we are OLD… but @ CB we have 3 rookies and 2 2nd yr men plus Maxwell.
@ Safety we have a practice squad guy, a street FA just off his sofa, a guy from Liberty College (???) and a guy from that football powerhouse Fordham. No shutdown DBs in sight.
and @ LB we feature 3 2nd yr UDFAs, a street FA, a ST guy, a big safety (Alonso), & Jelani.
No wonder we suck sometimes. Growing pains. Even our GM is a rookie.
btw
here’s a good article
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/sports/football/baltimore-blowout-not-as-bad-as-dolphins-early-sea/ntJ3B/
Bookman , i also sent in for Detroit this week in Survivor.. Good luck to you..
Speaking of Play offs …
FinsMob FFB League Playoffs start this weekend.. i left the Playoffs as ALL qualify because only two people answered.. Congrats to Herd for winning Regular Season, Now lets see if she can repeat as Champion.. I am not going to point fingers or name names, but there is one person who has basically abandoned their team to this point.. In fairness to all, come Sunday Am if their starting roster still has IR, and IA players i will Commish Adjust the team with players currently on their roster.. If needed to field a complete team i will also add as needed at that point .. Good luck and thank you to all who chose to participate.. GO PHINS !!!!
Morning Update
DOLPHINS-CARDINALS
Old 27-17 MIA
Howie 30-24 MIA
Rock 38-12 ARI
Piggy 35-14 MIA
B’man 35-31 MIA
MikeE 27-26 MIA
Bold 27-21 ARI
Herd 33-27 MIA
BriNY 29-23 MIA
N/A 31-17 ARI
Naples 20-17MIA
Toba 31-24 MIA
GO PHINS!!!
I’ll reiterate what I said earlier about Tim Williams and Piggy echoed my sentiment. When you have a guy in college who has the athletic ability of someone like him you cannot put him into a category and say he can’t get it done.
Just because he’s played the 3-4 OLB position at Alabama doesn’t mean he play the OLB position in a 4-3 at the next level. There’s guys who are suited for the 3-4 coming out of college and Williams would probably excel there but his athletic ability allows him to be able to play both.
It’s just like Tunsil. He’s a guy who played LT in college but he’s transitioned to LG at the next level. Not every guy can do that but if you watched him play LT in college you would have seen that he had the ability to make that transition at the next level.
So, 3-4 OLB would be a somewhat easier transition for Williams but 4-3 OLB won’t be difficult for him either.
If you looked at Misi, however, who was an undersized DE coming out of college and was a huge tweener coming out there was plenty to suggest he would have difficulty making the transition.