Mikey’s Musings

It’s probably my dad’s fault that I became a movie junkie. It’s not just movies, it’s everything that you need to watch a movie to make it a great viewing experience. Growing up, my dad had his stereotypical “favorite chair”. As a kid, I didn’t care where or what I sat on, as long as I was allowed to watch whatever it was my dad was watching. Fast forward about 20 some odd years, and even though I wasn’t yet a dad myself, my needs to have a great viewing experience were there.


The TV was important, and back in the early 90’s, TV’s weren’t even close to what we have available today. For me though, the TV was big, but the sound system was paramount. Not sure if any of you are into the “home theater” experience, but I’ve been head over heels for it since I had a job and could buy stuff. The very first iteration of home “surround sound” was Dolby Pro Logic. Easiest explanation as to what that means is the sound was broken up into 4 channels, front left, front right, center, and rear. The front sides handled most of the music and big sound, the center primarily focused on dialogue, and the rear, which was much more primitive than it is now, handled occasional sound effects in mono, meaning both left and right rear speakers got the same sounds, not stereo or individually. In all, 5 speakers total, but I loved every second of it! At that time, I had a 27” JVC color TV, so in reality, the aural experience really dominated the viewing experience, especially from 10’ away on the couch.


In the mid 2000’s, the next format of choice for home theaters was Dolby Digital. Initially available in 5.1, it later became available in 6.1 and 7.1. I’ll explain. What Dolby Pro Logic basically did, as I explained earlier is send sound to 3 different outlets, your front (L) speaker, front (C) speaker and your front (R) speaker, and your amplifier sent the power to each of those channels individually. There was also the rear mono, which I mentioned was pretty low tech, because the same exact sounds came out of both, so for instance, if a helicopter was flying from left to right on your screen, the sound in the rear didn’t “travel” from left to right, it was the same in both.


What Dolby Digital brought was amplifiers for each channel, or speaker, including a channel for a subwoofer, which added thunderous bass to the soundtrack, a huge necessity! Here’s the problem with this advent of technology, and things just like it are still happening today. Very little support for the new format. So you plunk down hundreds, more likely thousands of dollars for a TV, Dolby Digital receiver, subwoofer, 2 really nice front speakers to handle your main channels (and also your music when you’re just listening to tunes), a center channel speaker, and 3 smaller rear surround speakers to complete your 6.1 setup. Honestly, the sound was breathtaking for me. Easily the most immersive experience for me. Remember the helicopter I brought up, well that sucker could start coming out of your front speakers, move from left to right as it flies across your screen, and then as it flew away, cut to the back speakers starting from the right and fade from the right the left. Amazing! The 6.1 also had a rear center speaker too, so if something was shot from the TV that was coming at you, that went to rear center, so it sounded like it hit right behind you! That’s true surround sound folks!


Let me reiterate what I meant about support. You have all this dazzling (expensive!) equipment, but try buying a DVD, or later a bluray that was available in 6.1. Most titles were only available in 5.1, and that was the case for years. The same thing is happening right now with 4K TV’s. I’m sure at least a few of you out there splurged for one of these puppies, and man, they are awesome for sure, but try finding content for them outside of purchasing a 4K bluray player for them, and then spending $30+ on each 4K bluray disc you buy. DirecTV has a couple of dedicated channels for 4K, but you can’t watch ALL your shows in 4K, it’s simply not available. That’s the problem with high tech, they come out with equipment before the world has caught up to the new format.

To be clear, watching a 4K TV is still a great experience, even if the content you are watching is 1080i or 720p, what most of you get from your cable company or DirecTV, or any dish provider on most network channels. Each network decides what they want to broadcast in, and the greater majority broadcast in 1080i, and Fox in particular, does 720p. The higher the number, the more pixels are being used in your picture. 1080i means 1920 x 1080 pixel resolution. 4K translates to 3840 x 2160 pixel resolution. Like I said, the more pixels, the clearer and more defined the picture is.

Today’s 4K TV’s are really fantastic. There are LCD, and now OLED TV’s. Both can give you an amazing picture, and both are available with HDR (High Dynamic Range), which means colors you haven’t seen on your current 1080 TV. OLED TV’s give you contrast unseen before, with true black colors, not just a dark gray, but BLACK! OLED is also able to dim each individual pixel, to give by far the best local contrast available. It’s stunning!

So what about the sound? The newest format is Dolby Atmos, and the idea behind Atmos is the sound is also bounced off the ceiling for what they say is an even more immersive experience. Maybe I’m getting old, OK, not maybe, but I can’t make this change. I’m so thrilled with the setup I have, I just don’t see a need to change to a new format. It would be crazy expensive too, it would require a new receiver, and either replacing the current speakers, or buying add-ons to the current speakers, and we’re talking big $$$ for all of that. Plus, back to the same old support issue, nothing you watch on your cable or dish provider will come to you in Dolby Atmos, and only certain movie titles will be available with Atmos at the current time, and basically, it’s chasing the white elephant all over again. The support never really catches up to the new format, and by the time it does, it’s on the next great thing.

That would be like Microsoft introducing the new Xbox 4, and having only 3 games you can play on it, but you can play all your old games just like you do now on your Xbox 3. Get what I’m saying? Although the technology might be amazing, the lack of support for it makes it a tough sell. Will I regret buying a 4K TV? I don’t think so, because it still looks much better than what I had, despite the meager 4K availability from TV providers. Netflix and other streaming devices and companies offer lots of 4K content, so it’s out there, you just have to find it.


If you want a great TV, I would say by all means buy a 4K TV. Even if the content you are watching isn’t broadcast in 4K, the picture will be better than your old TV, and again, there is plenty of 4K content from streaming avenues like Netflix, Roku, Amazon Fire stick, Google Chrome, Apple TV and many more. Plus, the 4K TV can upscale the 1080 content, which won’t quite look like 4K, but sharper than 1080. If you’re into the surround sound, you just need a receiver, and a bunch of speakers. they actually sell packages for “Starters” or packaged sets, people who want the experience but don’t want to spend thousands on top speakers, and they work pretty well too. Almost every speaker company makes one, and I think it’s worth it if you’re not really picky about the sound, but want the experience. If you have a bunch of quality old speakers around, put them to use, you can make your own home theater by purchasing a home theater receiver. You need a couple of punchy speakers for the mains or front, they can either be tower or bookshelf, as long as they can handle some power. You may need to get a center channel speaker that can produce clear dialogue, and if you have two small bookshelf speakers, you have yourself a basic surround set up.

If you have a home theater, let me know what you’re running, I’m curious. If you fell asleep reading this, or only part of it, let me know that too. Just trying a little different spin here while the Dolphins are off, but the front office never sleeps (hopefully).  Really, besides the TV, and the sound system, you have to have a great movie too, the video and audio will only take you so far.  In honor of my dad, I present his favorite, which as a kid, I never appreciated, until I got older.  For you dad!


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203 Responses to Mikey’s Musings

  1. growing up we had something like this with a built-in record player. no remotes. if you wanted to change the channel you had to get up and turn the dial.
    back then there was no such thing as a surround sound or home theatre experience. even when cable first arrived you still just connected it to the back of the television and used the vhf channel dial instead of the uhf, which was for channels you could get with your bow tie antenna.
    cable delivered a whole 13 channels at that time and we were thrilled.
    It was better than just the four local channels you got with the bow tie antenna and had a clear picture unlike the locals which sometimes would have the picture “ghost” because of bad reception from the antenna.
    You had to get up and rotate the antenna on top of the television. Wrapping a piece of aluminum foil around the antenna wire and sliding it up and down sometimes helped with the reception as well.
    Finally, the cable box came around and you were able to switch your channels with that and they offered a wider variety of channels too. Cable was nice because the locals would usually sign off after the the Tonight Show or some other form of entertainment. CBS, for instance, would show The Avengers after the late local news. Then, The New Avengers.
    On Sunday Nights, the big deal was The Mystery Movie with Columbo, McMilland and Wife and McCloud on a rotating basis. Of course, Columbo was my favorite.
    Eventually, cable boxes came with remotes so now you didn’t need to get up from the couch to change the channel. Of course, this was the beginning of a new era; when people would get up and walk across the room to get the remote and go sit back down and use the remote to change the channel.

  2. I have to applaud the effort Haason Reddick is giving in Senior Bowl practices this week. While they have him still showcasing his pass rushing abilities for those interested in him as an edge rusher he understands that his ability to cover and play inside and having versatility is extremely important.
    He doesn’t want to be classified as just an edge rusher. There’s no doubt he’s got a lot of athletic ability but teams need to see more from these edge rush guys other than what they showed in college. Not everyone runs a 3-4 defense and even those teams require their OLB’s to have the ability to drop back into coverage and help set the edge.
    His skills are still a bit sketchy at this time as he is learning something new but while others have bowed out of the competition completely in order to prepare for the underwear Olympics, Reddick is trying to show teams that he can do it in actual game situations.
    If there is a guy in the 2nd rd at LB who could be that guy, Reddick may be the one. He’s also the fastest of the bunch.

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  5. To follow up on my tale of television, now I’m back to having an antenna although this one is an outdoor antenna which gives me all my channels in HD just as cable or satellite would. I only get 27 channels off the antenna but the cost of cable and satellite is just ridiculous and I’m not paying for that; not when most of what I watch is on the networks anyway.
    I’m taking my time looking at the new streaming services out there from Sling TV, to PlayStation TV, DirectTVNOW and others trying to see which, if any, is the better deal. Problem for many is the ability or lack thereof to stream to multiple devices at the same time.
    So, if you have a family, that may be difficult. I live alone so it doesn’t matter.

  6. The Flying Pig says:

    Just me?

  7. Mike E. says:


    Glad you softened your stance on Haason Reddick. Not that I think he’s a must have, but it also kind of shows that some of these LB’s that you set in stone are either 3-4 OLB’s or 4-3 DE’s will actually be able to play 4-3 OLB like I expected.

  8. wyoming85 says:

  9. wyoming85 says:

    54: R2P22 C ETHAN POCIC, LSU
    243: R7P22 EDGE STEVEN TAYLOR, HOUSTON ( not an edge, More like a nickel LB )

    I think I would be really happy with this one! 🙂

  10. wyoming85 says:

    Cross Training?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Rich Lowry is the founder of the National Review, a very conservative magazine
      So guess what point of view this is told from…
      That said, I would not dismiss anything bc of its political bias
      I take everything with a grain of salt anyway bc I’m a cynic

      but substantively, the idea of calling Trump Jacksonian is absurd

      Similar styles I guess in that Jackson was very aggressive and a big believer in the adversarial process. He went to war with his adversaries. He is considered the modern day founder of the system. I think most historians view Jacksonian politics as a style that pins one party aggressively against the other (and doesn’t leave room for compromise or a 3rd or 4th point of view)

      You might make that analogy with Trump who doesn’t seem to care what anyone else thinks and has the left/liberals up in arms

      but that is where it ends in terms of similarities

      Jackson was actually an intellectual, he was a lawyer and considered a legal scholar. He didn’t attack the “elite” which this writer seems to imply. He was in politics pretty much since the revolutionary war serving both as a senator and a congressman and he was even a Judge for time. He actually would have been considered a part of the “swamp” today

      Politically its hard to make comparison between what the people stood for with such huge gaps in time
      But Jackson believed in Federalism over state rights (which was the fundamental different political belief between people at the time)
      and IMO, Federalism would be like supporting big government over small government today, which of course is not a very republican idea or a very trumplike idea

      I hate the idea of making Andrew Jackson a partisan concept. first of all most people don’t care about that time and won’t look at the details. But 2nd for a long time I’ve viewed Jacksonian politics as the source of what is wrong with our current political system. Since I favor a multi party system and Jackson borrowed from his legal education in support of an 2 party adversary style. I already lost my argument about the electoral vote v political vote to partisan politics now I’m going to lose my Anti-Jackson ideas bc it will automatically be perceived to be a liberal argument? WTF

      Andrew Jackson was bold and he demonized his adversaries which is very Trumplike. So I can appreciate that comparison.

      I would probably call Jackson a jerk today in the same way I call Trump a jerk. I’m not a fan of uncompromising POVs and leverage to get your way rather than reasonableness and compromise.

      But you can’t just call any jerk Jacksonian bc they pick fights with people
      You would not call a common thug Jacksonian. There was a method to Jackson’s style.

      Some people think uncompromising boldness will get things done. Maybe it will. I don’t know the future. I tend to think it’s everything that is wrong with the country. I’m my view it’s just an extension of the corruption it alleges to seek to remedy

      Anyway that’s my Piggy rant

      I think its great it people start looking at American History and people like Jackson to get the source of where we are today. I think the writer is way off the mark though.

  11. Randy says:

    TV? Wow, rich people problems.

  12. stangerx says:

    Mike E — Gonna sound like my grandfather talking about how things were better in the old days, but I miss my first jury-rigged Dolby system. Had an old high-end muscle car receiver (Carver) of like 150 amps from the days long before this tech came out and quality was measured by power output rather than all the other fancier factors that came out later.

    Bought a fairly cheap surround-sound processor, a front channel speaker, a huge subwoofer and two pretty large tower speakers that sat right behind the couch. The two three foot old speakers became the front channels. One of my more tech buddies figured out how to get the whole thing running btwn speaker channels A&B combined with using audio inputs for things they weren’t designed for (think one designed for VHS was in play).

    Was the sound quality pure and clean?……..not at all. And I had speakers and audio equipment filling up the living room in my fairly small apartment. Every time I moved had to break the lease to tear up the carpet and put the wires to the back speakers underneath (just clipped them and bought more when I moved out).

    So completely clunky and low tech, but when you put on Top Gun and cranked it up, you were ducking when the plane flew at you.

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  14. wyoming85 says:

  15. Mike E. says:

    LOL Stanger – I’ve done my fair share of jury rigging as well. It’s crazy how sensitive and attuned my ears have become. If one speaker wire is loose, and it loses sound momentarily, I know it. My wife can’t believe I can, but I always do, and she sees it, and just shakes her head. Every time I had to move and re-wire, it was a very frustrating process, but very satisfying once it’s all said and done.

    • stangerx says:

      Sounds like you are like my bud that set up my first system. Maybe next Fest you and the lovely can stop by and while they do the girl crush thing you can check out how I can change the settings on the one I inherited in this place. All so polite, but man those little small speakers in the ceiling don’t give you nearly as much surround sound as the blasters I had in the old place.

      • Mike E. says:

        Be happy to help. I’m sure I could figure out what’s going on. Hopefully, you have the manual for the receiver, so I can see how to go through the settings, and if not, if you have a computer, we may be able to find them on line

      • stangerx says:

        Thank Mike — and wasn’t thinking you would bring a tool kit and rewire the thing……just maxing out what it offers with what is there.

  16. stangerx says:

    Chris Grier said at the Senior Bowl that it is “important for us” to retain Stills and Mando also reported that Branch is a priority for us.

    At the same time, Tannenbaum said “We want to keep our own. We’re never going to bat a thousand. The system just is not set up for it. We’ve been able to extend some players before I started — some like Mike Pouncey or Ryan Tannehill we were able to do — but candidly, you can’t keep them all. We understand that and acknowledge that.”

    Bottom line — the contract games have begun.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      I would want to keep Stills and Sims. Branch is not high priority for a starter role IMO. I would rather upgrade that position.

      • stangerx says:

        Maybe not starter role, but liked what I saw out of Branch as a possible 3rd DE in or compete for time with a less than huge name FA. He shouldn’t cost all that much. Think the whole world knows that when you have Wake lining up to Suh on one side of the line their are more options on the other.

  17. The Flying Pig says:

    LOL WY
    I didn’t even get the shifting of the arguments point

    I sunk my teeth into the Andrew Jackson stuff

  18. The Flying Pig says:

    I think we want to keep Branch of possible
    I guess $ matters
    But even if you bring in a rookie with a high pick I think you want that vet in place

    It’s different if we bring a DE via FA
    Than branch useless

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      I just don’t think Branch is worth starter money, which is what he’s probably going to ask for. I wished they’d kept Vernon if they’re going to give branch that type of money.

  19. Mike E. says:


    I remember the TV repair guy coming to fix our RCA color TV, the first one I can remember, which was somewhere around late 60’s, early 70’s, and the repair guy had a huge box of tubes. Everything was tubes back then, but they were easy to fix.

  20. stangerx says:

    Pig — a very fine rant on Jackson and Trump, but even if the comparison does not match up 100% for sure they both were outsiders and populists most distinctly focusing on upsetting the apple cart in DC. Even carries over to Jackson being viewed — rightfully or wrongfully — as a country bumpkin like Trump is in a different way. And both for sure went to battle against the top folks even in their own party.

    And even if Lowry is a conservative for sure, keep in mind that he was not a Trump fan at all. More like one of those DC GOP elites that Donald has gone to battle with. And he is a darn smart guy to boot. Think he is more observing the comparisons rather than saying “look what a great Pres Andrew J was.”

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Do you think Jackson was a “populists”?
      I am missing that

      I think its pretty hard to compare early 19th century and 21st century politics
      But I’m not getting populist from Jackson
      nor am I getting outside from Jackson

      I think he changed modern day politics
      not sure about changing Washington though

      what was Washington in the early 1800’s?
      It could not have been an establishment IMO

      • Tim Knight says:

        I have heard the Jackson/Trump comparisons.

      • stangerx says:

        Populist was far as I know was not a term back then, so we argue all day on that and no one would be right. But Jackson definitely challenged the established political elite and represented people who before thought their voice was excluded.

        Now it is coastal versus heartland, urban versus rural and such. Then it was old-school east coast versus the growing frontier. Whole thing was ruled by people from places like VA, NY and Mass. Jackson was from TN, which was pretty much the outer wilderness to such folks. And he sure did shake the thing up as he represented such folks amidst much turmoil. And that includes in his won party. Election before there was much bitterness btwn him and John Q Adam’s faction and after too.

        So you can call it a power grab and changeover rather than populist but it was there and similar to now. You could also make comparisons too Teddy Roosevelt, but Jackson works better for me cause he was one more hard-headed and immovable dude.

        And that is from a guy who does not like Trump and worry about what he will do overall. Don’t stop from seeing the comparison though.

  21. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, I just recently got rid of that exact same 27″ JVC TV from my garage. Not only that but a 36″ version of the same kind as well. Moving those things around friggin sucked! I never want to see them again. LOL

    • Mike E. says:

      That wasn’t exactly my TV, it was the closest pic I could find. Mine had these speakers on the side, and when I picked it up, I got my hands under the speakers so it was easier to carry. That one was about 70-80 lbs. The one I had in my bedroom that just recently died was a 36″ Sony CRT type, and that sucker is 235 lbs. We had to take it apart to get it out. lol

  22. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Marino has 2 of the top 5 and manning has 2 of the top 5


  23. Mike E. says:

    So I guess no one is into the home theater deal, eh? Next week I’m going to write about toilets, we ALL use ’em! lol

  24. Mike E. says:


    I agree, it might not even be half of what OV got

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      He might not get it but he might ask for it. So I bet he will hit FA.
      Here is branch 2016 stats. 49 tackles 5.5 sacks 2 FFumbles. And he didn’t start early season so less snaps

      Vernon 2015 stats. 61 tackles 7.5 sacks. They’re not that far off.

      • Mike E. says:

        It’s not just about 1 YR, OV was a starter for basically 3 full seasons before he hit FA, and besides the sacks, he had a ton of QB hits and hurries. Branch has been a part time player his whole career, and will be viewed that way when it comes to his contract

      • Tim Knight says:

        Except OV wasn’t then and still isn’t now worth that contract. We let OV walk and we’ll let Branch walk too if his demands are even close to that.

  25. Tim Knight says:

    I don’t see Branch getting anywhere near OV money.

  26. Randy says:

    Boy, I know we’re probably not looking for a DT, but Watkins from Clemson is a nice little player.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m not so sure, I would not be shocked if we targeted a DT.

      That said, I’d prefer our DTs to not be nice “little” players. LOL

  27. Randy says:

    Lol. Okay…he’s a nice big player. I wouldn’t be shocked if we drafted a DT, but I’d be surprised if we drafted one in the first. I have no idea where he’s slotted, but I’d guess Watkins will be gone early.
    The guy I’m not liking is Pocic. I wasn’t all that impressed from the games I saw, and he just doesn’t stand out much at these practices. In fact, early on he struggled.

  28. herdfan says:

    When I started reading I thought this was going to be about movies. For someone who is sort of into techy things I don’t really care about surround sound or hi def stuff. If I can see it and hear it I’m good. As for watching movies I prefer to see them in the theater. Because popcorn 🍿

  29. Randy says:

    I try to watch all the senior bowl stuff. Pocic has been uneven…I’ll just say that. I felt he was a second round pick at best from the video I watched of him through the year. He hasn’t done himself a lot of favors at these practices, in my opinion. I guess spending our low second round pick on him wouldn’t be a huge stretch, but I’d think there’s better value there.

  30. Mike,
    The thing about Reddick is he’s the one guy you can look at who has the athletic ability to play the other LB positions. Problem is he hasn’t done it so there will be a transition period when he does and it will take some time. Anderson is the only other guy I see that MAY be able to do it.
    While not as athletic as Reddick, Anderson is a good football player. So, there’s a possibility.
    I don’t like the idea of taking Watt early and trying to groom him for one of the positions. I think it’s kind of a guessing game as to whether he’ll be that good doing what he did at Wisconsin let alone trying to make a switch to a different type of position. Too many questions with him.
    Biegel, Fields and Price are full blown conversions and can take some time. Not saying they may never be able to do it but I think all three could take at least 2 full seasons.
    Also don’t think any of those three start year one.
    But, in any case, if there’s a guy I’d feel comfortable taking from a talent perspective to play on the outside in our D it’s got to be Reddick and he’s the only one at this time.

  31. Randy says:

    I feel that way about the visuals. I can’t even tell the difference between blue-ray and regular or 1080 and 720. But, sound is completely different. I love great sound….even though lots of theaters have it way too damn loud….or I’m just old. It’s probably what I enjoy most about watching movies at the theater…and the $10 bag of popcorn! Lol

  32. Tim Knight says:

    I’m not a fan of going to the movies. Sticky floors, people talking and farting, expensive snacks. I can wait for it to be on TV. 🙂

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  34. Mike E. says:


    I could have made this an hour read if I started getting into specific movies. Easily . . . .

    I felt like it was getting long as it was.

  35. Tim Knight says:

    Randy, as we know we’ll discuss a bunch of prospects for us all offseason, do 7,420 mock drafts and we’ll draft maybe one guy that got mentioned. LOL

  36. Mike E. says:

    Randy, Herd

    Come over and watch a movie one day, Randy, you’ll love the sound, and Herd, I’ll be happy to make a fresh batch of buttered popcorn. 🙂

  37. Randy says:

    Ok, but I’ve grown used to sitting in a recliner with a tray with a cup holder at the movies. My ass will accept nothing less at this point. Lol

  38. Randy says:

    Wow, sounds like you have a nice setup. I’m jealous. If I had the room and the money, a home theater would be one of the first thing I did in my home.

    • Mike E. says:

      When you do it, which is hopefully soon, let me know if you have any questions. I’m not an expert per se, but I’m pretty well versed in this stuff.

  39. Mike E. says:

    I have a mini fridge in the basement, but no blocks of cheese that I know of. I think there are a few Yeungling’s though

  40. Mike E. says:


    I only have 4 seats. I’m not rich, it’s just a passion of mine. It’s not super expensive either, but I set it up pretty well, and I know what works, so it sounds great anyway. It actually shocks me sometimes how much like the theater it sounds.

  41. wyoming85 says:

  42. herdfan says:

    There are no recliners in my house.

  43. Mike E. says:


    It’s very close to this, but not exactly

  44. So Reddick has really impressed at Senior Bowl week. We’ll see how he does playing inside on Saturday and if that opens some eyes.
    #22 is way too early for him because of his transition but I doubt he’s there at #54 so if the team was interested in him they would most likely need to move up in the 2nd to get him.
    Keep in mind Tannenbaum speaking this week also said they are still exploring trade options to acquire players in areas where the team needs to get better.
    DO NOT be surprised if we do another trade with New Orleans this year for my linebacker.
    I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if we do a trade again because we’ve done it the last two years with Stills, Alonso and Maxwell.

  45. 81Howie says:

    We got out first color TV around 1972 Zenith and if the tubes went you could take them to Eckerd drugs and they had a testing machine next up front by the weigh yourself machine and gum machines

    • Mike E. says:

      That’s pretty cool! I remember my dad calling Mel, the TV repair man. He had this big case, that opened up into 3 compartments, and there were a shitload of tubes, all packed neatly. He'd open the back of the TV, try a couple of tubes, and voila, it worked!

  46. wyoming85 says:

    That’s just COLD!!!!!!!!!!!

  47. Mike E. says:


    It’s going to be interesting to see this team get built. I’m also curious as to whether we ask Albert to restructure, and move Tunsil to LT. It’s tough because Albert is very good when he’s playing healthy, but it’s getting tough to count on that. Same goes for Pouncey

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think Pouncey is more of a concern than Albert. I know Albert gets banged up in different ways but he does not have a lingering injury like Pouncey. Albert has missed 6 games the past two seasons, Pouncey has missed 13 including this year’s playoffs and he went on IR this season.

      • Mike E. says:

        Yes and no Tim. I think they know they have to have someone that can play C because Pouncey is too risky. Problem is we end up counting on Albert, and he’s going to miss time, and the player we replace him with is a major step down in talent, unless we move Tunsil to LT, but then we lose it at G, especially if the guy who is replacing Pouncey was our next best OG.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think we need to target a quality C/G and I think we will. If Albert goes down, Tunsil goes to LT and that C/G goes to LG. If Pouncey goes down, that C/G goes to C. If they both go down well then you have to go deeper into the depth pool. No different than any other team. But upgrade the depth pool.

        I haven’t written off Steen yet. He tried playing through an ankle sprain and his play suffered from it to the point where we then went to Urbik at C at the end of the season. People forget we were on our 3rd center as well as the other injuries. Let’s not forget that Tunsil also missed two games. That’s not overly alarming just stating that it happens to a lot of guys.

  48. Mike E. says:

    Albert has missed 17 games the last 4 years, that’s an average of bit more than 4 games per season . That hurts.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well 7 of them was when he had his knee rolled up on in 2014 and went on IR. Nothing any player can do about that.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He was injury prone when we signed him (I still wanted him BTW)
      but its gotten worse
      and may get worse as he gets older

  49. Mike E. says:


    I get what you’re saying, but that just throws a big fat monkey wrench in what they just proffered at the Senior Bowl, that they want continuity on the O-line. If you count on Pouncey and Albert, and they’re intermittently out, then your constantly shuffling. They want stability, which is much less likely with Albert and Pouncey

    • Tim Knight says:

      I understand. But anyone can get hurt. You could acquire a fantastic player and all of sudden he misses half the season. I don’t know how you can prepare for that. We’ll see if the team feels they have too much money invested in players they can’t count on. Maybe they both restructure to help their team in a humble way.

      • Mike E. says:

        You prepare for it by realizing the fact that he almost definitely won’t play all 16 games. Once you’re at that point, you make up your mind whether you want him or don’t. I think they have a tough decision, because the last 4 years, he hasn’t been able to stay on the field for an entire season. So either you gamble on him again, or you let him go. I think that’s where they’re at. If it were me, I’d ask him to restructure or take a paycut, which would enable us to sign better depth, and if he wasn’t amenable to that, I’d consider cutting him outright.

  50. The Flying Pig says:

    The thing about moving Tunsil to LT
    is that its inevitable at some point that he is the LT

    I generally think 2nd year is the normal year something like that will happen

    I don’t think its crazy to move Albert to OG

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t know why they would even bother. What’s the rush with that?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Tunsil is more valuable than Albert at this point

        I don’t know that its a rush
        but it might happen in the interest of Tunsil’s development

      • Tim Knight says:

        Why are we trying to subtract and/or create voids again? Developing chemistry means something. There is also comradery that fans and media forget about but players and coaches do not.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Not creating a void unless we waive him which I don’t think is a good idea

        really….I don’t know what they are going to do
        I don’t really care if they make that kind of swap

        but you are being unrealistic about where Albert is
        He is aging and probably more likely to miss more games

        And grooming Tunsil to be the LT seems obvious to me

        Do they make that switch now? I don’t know
        Its not the kind of switch that equates to waiving players and bringing in new players
        I don’t think chemistry is a huge issue

  51. wyoming85 says:

    Reese’s Senior Bowl ‏@seniorbowl 15m15 minutes ago
    Carroll Phillips @IlliniFootball was most explosive LB once the pads went on leading LBs both days in explosion @CatapultSports @RosterWatch

  52. The Flying Pig says:


    Since he has been with us from most recent year to oldest
    he started 12, 14 and 9
    With the Chiefs it’s 12, 11, 16, 15, 14 & 15

    See the pattern
    Look at his first 4 years – he didn’t start in 4 games

    That’s getting worse

    the team has to plan for the future not be in denial about it

    That is what happens with age
    he is going into his 10th year in 2017


  53. Mike E. says:


    I’m just going by what they said. They said they want stability and continuity on the O-line. With Albert, that’s not going to be the case, and with Pouncey, it’s even less likely.

  54. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, not sure how missing 11 games in two seasons 3-4 years ago compared to 6 the last 2 seasons is being unrealistic. What kind of math is that? LOL

    If you guys read what I said, I also concurred that both Albert and Pouncey are likely a topic of discussion within the FO due to durability and reliability concerns. My main point was I’m more concerned about Pouncey than Albert. Good luck replacing both of them. I know it sucks!

    • Mike E. says:

      It’s not going to be easy to replace them at all. It’s a tough situation. The money both guys are making make it tough to spend on good enough backups, so you may have to consider letting one or both go I think.

  55. Tim Knight says:

    Albert missed 2 games in 2015 and Tunsil 2 games his rookie season this year. Somehow Tunsil is rock solid and Albert is hanging on by a thread. It happens. Add talent, don’t play the addition by subtraction game every year. It doesn’t work. Let guys replace guys with their play, don’t always look to subtract and add. We will have plenty of cap room to upgrade the team without jettisoning everyone. LOL

    • Mike E. says:

      How do you add talent when you’re paying those top dollar already?

      • Mike E. says:

        For example, D has mentioned Kevin Zeitler, who is an excellent OG. Say you sign him 4 YR/$32M, are you going to keep as a depth player? He’s going to be your starter. I suppose you can put him at RG and not re-sign Bushrod, but Bushrod will likely be $1.5M or thereabouts to keep. If you play him at LG, then Tunsil is probably going to LT, right?

      • Tim Knight says:

        We’ll likely have about $40M in cap space with UFAs and some purging sans Albert and Pouncey. We also have a draft and we were a 10-6 playoff team. I think we’re used to 7-9 offseasons. LOL

  56. Randy says:

    Maybe Tunsil just isn’t ready to play LT. I doubt he’d play at Albert’s level starting out anyway. Albert is a really good LT.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Even if he is what’s the rush? He was what some would say is a fall from grace. Build on it. 🙂

    • Mike E. says:

      Tunsil was a better prospect than Albert was coming out, if that means anything. Maybe Tunsil can be as good as Albert, or better. Plus, it would be nice to have the same guys in there all season long, and not have to shuffle all the time

  57. Mike E. says:

    I just looked at Albert and Pouncey’s cap hits, it’s almost impossible to cut them. Albert has a dead cap hit of $13M, and Pouncey $15M

    • Tim Knight says:

      You add talent and depth this year and then possibly move on next year. But I think your numbers are wrong. More like $8.5M in dead cap if we cut both.

      • Mike E. says:

        I was looking at 2016, so then again, maybe we do move on from one. We’ll see. I honestly don’t care if either returns, as along as we have competent guys that can get the job done and play every game. Seems like that’s what they’re shooting for by their comments

  58. Randy says:

    Tunsil might eventually be better than Albert. That doesn’t mean he will be this year or even next year. I’d rather have a really good veteran at LT than an untested young guy. Tunsil is just fine at guard. Why move him to LT when you have a really good LT already?

    • Mike E. says:

      I didn’t realize Albert’s dead cap hit was so high. My thought was if Albert doesn’t agree to a pay cut, or restructure so we can add good depth on the O-line both through FA and the draft, then we’d cut him, but his cap hit would be $15M, which ain’t happening. If we do get a player in FA, we’re not paying for a top LT, we’ll likely sign an OG, so in that case, I guess that OG would play RG, Tunsil at LG and Albert at LT.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Albert dead cap $3.4M
        Pouncey dead cap $5M

      • Mike E. says:

        Revision, Albert is only $3.5M, and Pouncey $5M. Anything is possible. So say you sign Kevin Zeitler to play RG, draft Pat Elflein to play C, sign LG Ronald Leary, and move Tunsil to LT. You will likely have 5 guys that play together the whole season

      • Mike E. says:

        I’d also sign Bushrod as depth for $1.5M like he did last year. That’s a plan!

    • Jahndoh30 says:

      Agreed. That said, I have little faith that Albert can play 16 games and a playoff slate (of idealy 3-4 games!) without missing some of them due to injury. So Tunsil is a good safety net.
      I still think we need to get more quality depth at OL this offseason.

      • stangerx says:

        Jahn — pretty sure you can add in a 5th starter on the OL already, which goes more than to just depth. Gonna be a G walking into Davie who is at least a compete with Bushrod if still there. We’ll see how much more than that and who else.

  59. Randy says:

    I don’t really pay much attention to all that cap stuff. I guess I just look at it as we have two good OLmen in Tunsil and Albert, and we need to use them. How they do it really doesn’t matter to me. I’m sure they’ll move Tunsil to LT when they feel the time is right. i don’t think Albert’s level of play has slipped to the point where moving him to guard makes sense just yet.

  60. Tim Knight says:

    In the big scheme of things, I don’t think any of us Phins fans care why we win if we win. LOL

  61. Tim Knight says:

    “So say you sign Kevin Zeitler to play RG, draft Pat Elflein to play C, sign LG Ronald Leary, and move Tunsil to LT. You will likely have 5 guys that play together the whole season”

    Maybe! There is no perfect science.

  62. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, Bushrod likes it in Miami with Gase. I think he’s an easy re-sign.

  63. stangerx says:

    My biggest Q on Albert is how he would take it if he was asked to play G. Heck — if we was willing to do that (even if down the road) and restructure for lower money over more years. Would could give him his final landing spot contract. And don’t think for a second that Albert doesn’t know that Tunsil will be the Miami LT, if not this year then next.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t know

      it was important enough for them to call him when Tunsil was drafted and assure him he was their LT of the future

      but that is a year ago

      I think Albert appears to be a professional about these things
      You don’t have to restructure him bc you move him to OG

      in terms of the cap
      Tunsil is not getting a raise bc he is moving to LT.
      The cap hit is the same by doing that flip

      I think Albert would be upset if moving to OG is less $
      I would be….lol

      but if that’s not the case (and there is no reason to make that the case) then leave his salary alone

    • stangerx says:

      Part of the reason that I would love to keep Albert in the fold is that he does seem professional. Yeah after the draft he said “let’s be clear I am a LT” but then he has also later in the season said Tunsil could be a HOF one.

      No you don’t have to restructure to move him to G, but then he would be a ten mil G who at his age wouldn’t get close to that in a long-term contract as a LT or G if he hit the open market.

      And key thing is after next year his ten mil is all in the open and he knows who will be LT then. Was just thinking he might be willing to figure guaranteed years here in what is going to happen anyhow might sound good. He was drafted as a G to start with anyhow.

  64. The Flying Pig says:

    I think we got a good idea of Tunsil at LT last season
    and my guess is the only reason he is not our LT now is not whether the team thinks he is ready – its bc Albert is our LT

    I really don’t have a strong opinion on this point to be honest
    I’m just curious to see if that swap is made or put off for another year

    To me its inevitable that Tunsil will be our LT
    I lean toward making that switch now just to get it over with….lol

    But I agree with Randy, its not like Albert’s play has slipped to the extent that the move is necessary

    I also agree with Mike that Albert in and out of the lineup doesn’t help consistency

    I also agree with Stanger that Albert knows Tunsil will be the LT eventually

    and I agree with Tim that too much roster change will set us back

    and I also agree with Jahn that we need more depth at OL

    Finally I agree with Boulder who said “I agree” at 1:16pm today

    The only person I do not agree with are the people that did not post today….those fucks…

  65. herdfan says:

    81Howie says:
    January 27, 2017 at 6:12 am
    We got out first color TV around 1972 Zenith and if the tubes went you could take them to Eckerd drugs and they had a testing machine next up front by the weigh yourself machine and gum machines

    “Weigh yourself machine”???? We call them scales. 😂

  66. The Flying Pig says:


    it doesn’t bother me if he is an OG who is paid like a LT
    the cap is the cap
    think of Tunsil and Albert as a pair and you pay ______ for a LT and a LG
    which is a deal

    If anything, the only thing it affects is the $ hit to franchise an OG in ’18 which I think needs to be an average salary of the top 3 players at a position or something

    but that is another team’s problem…and fuck other teams…lol

    Hey I think I just figured out a way to sabotage other teams
    Let’s sign a kicker
    but call him a QB for a year, he can be our #3 QB
    sign him to a huge QB contract
    then move him to kicker in year 2
    and now anyone who franchises a kicker will have to compete with that salary
    (Piggy rubs his trotters together plotting)

    ….well…I think its possible that may hurt us more than the other teams

    but who cares…lets be vindictive

    • Jahndoh30 says:

      Officially change Tannehill’s position to punter, but let him take every snap on offense. Every play will be either a fake punt or a surprise punt!

      • The Flying Pig says:

        even better

        Lets call Mike Pouncey a RB an tell everyone we are running a new version of the Wildcat

      • stangerx says:

        Both you guys have the right idea, but you are going in the wrong direction on that and confusing Tanny with Fields. 🙂

    • stangerx says:

      If seemed like I don’t like both Tunsil and and Albert lining up together on the left-side of the OL….let me be clear I love it. Was only thinking about those could be doing it for years to come. My pet bet on this is that Albert really loves this team, appreciates the fiscal part (seems pretty smart) and at his age might be open to making that happen in return for a guaranteed future. Even if in the NFL world that means like till 2020.

  67. Tim Knight says:

    We need to focus on how to get better, not how to fuck up what is already good. 🙂

  68. D says:

    Zach banner is a monster of a dude

  69. wyoming85 says:

  70. wyoming85 says:

    Tell Pocic that some fucker named Randy was bad mouthing him! 😉

  71. The Flying Pig says:


    when you met with Sprinkle, did you suddenly have to pee?

    …just curious

  72. wyoming85 says:

    Reese’s Senior Bowl ‏@seniorbowl 5h5 hours ago
    .@HawkeyeFootball CB Desmond King was the fastest player at either practice Thursday, reaching 20.5 mph via @CatapultSports and @RosterWatch

  73. Mike E. says:


    Did you get to talk to Tanoh?

  74. wyoming85 says:

  75. D says:

    Jon Toth was really cool too, anzalone too.

  76. stangerx says:

    Didn’t know that Landry just had a kid (good for him wanting to lock down that big contract though). Pretty sure he and Beckham have been talking about his future at the Pro Bowl though.

    According to Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry “should get a big contract coming up soon. I’m excited for it. I’m excited for him and his family. They just had a baby so I’m hoping it all goes well….Jarvis is the greatest I’ve ever seen. He’s a guy who pushes me to be better. He’s made me who I am today. And our relationship is still steadily going. It’s great. This is Year 3 and our second Pro Bowl together. So we’re going in the right direction.”


    • Tim Knight says:

      Landry is the best, he’s fantastic, there’s nobody better, we’re so great it’s going to be fantastic. LOL

  77. D says:

    Waiting to meet Duke Riley now

  78. I haven’t got the slightest idea what is there with Raekwon McMillan. I don’t understand the 2nd rd projection. Is it the Ohio St thing? I can’t see anything there.
    I’ve watched his games over and over and over and I see a LB who can’t play sideline to sideline, has major difficulty with speed and quickness (he had trouble trying to tackle Penn State qb Trace McSorley and actually did miss him).
    He had perfect coverage on Joe Mixon and Mixon caught the ball, stopped on a dime, turned up field and went right by McMillan.
    He has difficulty shedding blocks and he has difficulty avoiding blockers. He doesn’t seem to be able to read plays correctly as he guesses where the play is going quite often and takes himself out of the play. I don’t think I’ve seen him play a game where he’s had any significant impact on how well the defense has played.
    So, if someone see’s something different and they can point me in the right direction, please let me know where to look.

    • D says:

      I see basically the same thing. Mike and I had this discussion earlier this week I think

      • I’ll have to go back and look to see what was said. I keep thinking I’m missing something here but too many times I’ve seen guys go around the end and he’s got nothing; can’t get to them to make the tackle.
        If a rb gets behind him in coverage even in the slightest he’s done.

  79. wyoming85 says:

  80. Mike E. says:


    Glad you’re enjoying the Senior Bowl experience. Very cool that you go and get to meet all those players, and see them play up close. I’ve recorded the practices, and I’m recording the game too, jut to get a little more insight into some of these guys we may be looking at.

  81. wyoming85 says:

    Luis D. Sung ‏@LuisDSung 46m46 minutes ago
    The more I see OBJ and Juice interact with each other, the more I wish it were possible these two could somehow play together again.

    Lee Harvey ‏@Wyoming85Lee 7s8 seconds ago
    @LuisDSung the more you wonder how horrible Metenberger really is?
    How do you not win a championship with those 2 and that D?

    • I don’t know about that. Juice has issues controlling himself as it is and then would be feeding off OBJ or both would feed off one another. From a talent perspective it looks great on paper but I think you open up a can of worms and end up having too many issues with both on the same team.

      • stangerx says:

        That’s just the football side though….and we know they are best buds. Not like Lebron, Wade and Bosh being on the same team was an idea first put together by some front office guys.

  82. stangerx says:

    So first both OBJ comes out with Landry is due a big contract and then T.Y. Hilton says the same. Now the below from Ajayi on Stills. Almost makes you think the skill guys are talking about more than just routes, cars and women over drinks at the Pro Bowl.
    “Kenny’s a great guy, a hard-working teammate. We reaped the benefits of that this year and we saw him take another step in the right direction. It’d be great for us to have him back. I know he wants to be back. I know the team wants him back. So whatever we need to do to make that happen, hopefully we do that.”

  83. steveccnv says:

    Confirmed Trump won popular vote, as 9M+ votes came from dead people, people voting in 2 states, illegals voting, people being bused in to border states, people bused around to as many as 10 polling sites.

  84. D says:

    First series anzalone looked good both coverage and read react. Was first lb to see that one play and blew it up behind the line

  85. D says:

    Anzalone is looking pretty solid

  86. D says:

    Boulware is really small

  87. 81Howie says:

    A scale “Ingenious” but that was 1975 and you had to put a penny in it and something came out.
    Who would have known 🙂
    The Eckerd we went to was in Skylake mall so no grocery store there but there was a Ranch House restaurant and a Carvel but I cant remember the exact configuration.
    Several years later I was a bag boy at Publix on 441 and 199th right down from where the stadium is today and there was a drug store next door but i’m not sure if it was Eckerds or Wallgreens.

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