Happy July 12, 2017

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Happy July 12, 2017!  This blog is what happens when Mike goes away and a pig can’t think of anything to write because he is overwhelmed with work.

I thought we could use a new blog…

Please enjoy this photo of Gus, the Great Porcine Thinker.

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95 Responses to Happy July 12, 2017

  1. pheloniusphish says:

    No less bored

  2. stangerx says:

    Factoid — Pitbull was the in-house DJ for the Miami Marlins

  3. Rockphin says:

    LOL!! Happy July 12th! Thanks Piggy!

  4. Rockphin says:

    What sucks:

    1. I am bored at work and this site might as well be shut down for the amount of posts during this slow period.
    2. When thing pick back up again I will probably be slammed at work again so I wont be able to post during the day.
    3. Papa John’s pizza

  5. drg says:

    Stanger,

    I’m not a Miko fan in the slightest, but can’t blame Grimes for wanting to get the hell out of here while Philbin was in charge. Would have loved to keep Grimes around, but good riddance to the Miko show. That will not end well once Brent’s playing career is over.

    • stangerx says:

      Am sure you read the article — when is the last time you heard an owner put a wife’s name in there when asked when they were letting a player go?…….but according to Miko it was her decision anyhow. But even if liked Philbin more than you, could not agree more about bad times ahead for poor Brent once he is not the engine that gets Miko attention.

  6. drg says:

    Yeah, I think it’s revisionist history with her claiming it was all premeditated. They may have wanted out, but there’s better ways to do it.

  7. Tim Knight says:

    The thing is Philbin wasn’t the HC anymore when we released Brent Grimes. Gase was already hired and the team decided to part ways with “them”. 😉

  8. mf13ss says:

    Miko Grimes says, “SUCK MY DICK!”. SMH, I don’t know how or why Brent stays with her, but that’s his biz. But if he doesn’t make it his biz to have her zip her lips, his career will be over prematurely. I guarantee all 32 owners plus Goodell know about her alienating fan-bases and front offices with her divisive words and actions. As such, he’s ripe to be black-balled by the league.

    • Tim Knight says:

      If he can still play there will be teams interested. It would be different if we was the malcontent.

      • mf13ss says:

        But therein lies the problem, man. It’s very possible that Miko is Brent’s spokesperson. That way, he looks like an angel by staying quiet while she gets her hands dirty. It doesn’t add up that he ALLOWS her to poison the pot.

        Regardless, they aren’t our problem any longer.

    • stangerx says:

      Mi13 — she’s a good looking woman though if you catch her from the right angle.

  9. naplesfan2010 says:

    Pro Football Focus ✔ @PFF

    Ryan Tannehill owned the quick game last season … 3rd best in the league out of 37 QBs when he gets the ball out in under 2 and a half seconds with a 109.1 passer rating and 13 TDs vs.2 INTs.

    He was 27th out of 37 QBs when it took longer than 2.5 with 6 TDs and 10 INTs and a 72 passer rating.

    • Tim Knight says:

      These breakdowns have so many variables. I also can’t buy into PFF with all of this because I don’t think they know all the variables when making their rankings. They turned this into a business and I’m not sold on any of it positive or negative.

    • stangerx says:

      naples love the first stat, but also goes to the man has trouble creating stuff on his own if the first option is not there……..Gase is working on it though.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Or he’s being chased out of the pocket and rolling to one side or the other limiting his options or nobody is open and he forces something because he has too. Variables.

      • stangerx says:

        Like any QB — he would do better with the best OL there is and stuff comes up on any given play. But just see the elite “a split second is like a minute for me” in Tanny. Smart guy, dedicated, strong arm,fast and good runner…….but nothing have seen says he will be a Rogers, Marino or Brady elite type. Don’t mean we can’t win the ring with him though.

  10. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, the problem is the “elite” word. Not many QBs or other positional players in this game are “elite”. It gets thrown around way too often. That’s a special status for future HOF players. Tannehill is a good QB and plenty of other teams would take him over what they have. Who else on our team would you consider elite… Suh, Wake or Jones maybe?

    An example for me is the talent around Matt Ryan made him look elite last year when he never was before. But he was MVP last year with an abundance of support around him.

  11. jetsssuck says:

    here is update on my miracle grass seed I planted several days ago. I seeded the ground with the seeds and watered as the instructions said. The next day the ground was green, While sitting and watching the ground for seed growth I didn’t have to wait long. Within 24 hours I saw growth. Day 2 was a little slow but the other seed that didn’t bloom came up and blossomed. Now I adjusted and hose sprayer sat back and cooled down with a favorite drink and sprayed away at my leasure between my thirst quenching beverages. After all my hard labor I approached day 4 with no thirst so I decided to smoke some grass and enjoy watching the seeds grow. I really enjoyed watching the grass grass so I decided to take measurements of the blades of different blades of the grass. Who said watching grass is boring never tried it.

  12. Rockphin says:

    That tells me he is not as good when the blocking breaks down. If it is a longer developing play and the line has a hiccup he’s not great. And I do think it had a lot to do with the line. His stats are markedly better when he has a few more fractions of a second to get the ball out.

    • mf13ss says:

      I’m not sure ANY QB is as good when the blocking breaks down… same goes for any RB.

    • steveccnv says:

      Why are we always harping on what he does that isn’t perfect? He’ll throw a TD pass and someone will bitch that the placement wasnt very good. The above link shows Stills catching a TD against SD that was perfect, yet no one mentions it.

  13. steveccnv says:

    RT is more prepared than anyone on the team, but seems to not be able to read his progressions, based on his rating when it takes more than 2.6 seconds to get rid of the ball. I’m starting to wonder, if the receivers aren’t where they’re supposed to be or can’t get ooen.

  14. Rockphin says:

    Tim, I think the word “elite” term is thrown around too much for QB’s and also believe it has more to do with team success than individual performance. As evidence to this hypothesis I submit the stats average for the first five years of two quarterbacks below. One is universally considered “Elite” and the other is Ryan Tannehill.
    —-Att——Comp—-Pct—–Att/G—-Yds—–Avg–Yds/G—–TD——TD%–Int—–Int%—Rate
    461.80 – 272.60 – 58.90 – 32.88 – 3,237 – 7.02 – 230.86 – 18.40 – 4.02 -13.40 – 2.98 – 81.34
    527.40 – 330.60 – 62.82 – 34.08 – 3,691 – 7.06 – 239.34 – 21.20 – 4.04 -13.20 – 2.54 – 86.56

    I have two questions for everyone. Which stats are Ryan Tannehill’s and who is the “Elite” QB I am comparing him to?

    Success makes one Elite.

    • Rockphin says:

      Part of my secret agenda to prove that RT has been quietly putting together an Elite Career. 😉

    • mf13ss says:

      “Success”, by most standards, is equivalent to team championships. I — on the other hand — equate success to individual accomplishments.

      • mf13ss says:

        Marino will NEVER get the respect he deserves from the elitist media, due to the fact his team never won a Super Bowl. Hey, it’s a team sport. But holy svucks, Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring… thus, he’s the better QB in elitist circles, SMH.

      • Rockphin says:

        so then, I pose you the question. Which player above #1 or #2 had more success?

      • steveccnv says:

        Stats don’t equal success. The guy that gets it done in the clutch, as long as he doesn’t stink it up the rest of the time is elite. You tell me what’s the better stat, the guy who throws for 9 yards on every 3rd and ten or the guy that throws 2 incomplete passes on every 1st 2nd downs and gets 1st downs on 80% of 3rd downs?

      • steveccnv says:

        Could’ve been either Rock. Yards per pass dont equal success either.

      • steveccnv says:

        Unless they’re gaudy😉

  15. Tim Knight says:

    To me elite is dominant play on a regular basis. Not 4-5 games per year.

    • Rockphin says:

      the stats I posted are the first five year averages

      • steveccnv says:

        Again stats and averages don’t make someone elite. You have to pass the eye test first. When the game was over, without looking at the stats how did he do?

  16. steveccnv says:

    1st down incomplete 2nd down run for 5 3rd down 5 yard pass 1st down, then 2 incs 3rd down throw for 10, then 4 more cycles of the same, but TD run in by RB. Stats 8 for 20 60 yards. Is he elite?

  17. Rockphin says:

    steveccnv says:
    July 12, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    1st down incomplete 2nd down run for 5 3rd down 5 yard pass 1st down, then 2 incs 3rd down throw for 10, then 4 more cycles of the same, but TD run in by RB. Stats 8 for 20 60 yards. Is he elite

    No. he just plays on a good team.

    • Rockphin says:

      You just described Mark Sanchez in the AFC Championship teams

      • steveccnv says:

        So a QB moves his team down the field and scores and you compared him to a game manager? Go figure, you need to see it with your eyes to determine.

  18. dbolt48 says:

    Steve,
    In regards to the 2.6+ stat I think it has more to do w/ WRs not getting open and not running correct routes. I think Armando said earlier in the year that was the main reason they scaled back the offense.

    • dbolt48 says:

      Also think also RT was getting comfortable in a new O.

    • steveccnv says:

      I’d like to believe that, but it just doesn’t pass the eye test. I mean that likely was part of the problem, but great QBs find a way to get it do e regardless. If the game has slowed down for him, like he says, we won’t be talking about this for much longer.

      • dbolt48 says:

        I’ll say my eyes saw elite QB play from the Pitt game on w/ the Ravens game as the lone hiccup. People rave about that Ajayi’s game vs Pitt, rightfully so, but tend to forget that Tannehill was damn excellent.

  19. stangerx says:

    Tim Knight says:
    July 12, 2017 at 8:31 pm
    Stanger, the problem is the “elite” word. Not many QBs or other positional players in this game are “elite”. It gets thrown around way too often. That’s a special status for future HOF players. Tannehill is a good QB and plenty of other teams would take him over what they have. Who else on our team would you consider elite… Suh, Wake or Jones maybe?
    —————–
    Tim — I consider the three you mention plus a healthy Pouncey and Denney as elite (and yeah by that mean keep it up and a discussed HOF nomination at least). Landry is on the cusp. Timmons has been in the past. Some of the younger guys like Tunsil and Parker have the potential to be……and heck you can throw Tanny in that category too if you want. He’s got the tools, but just don’t see the instincts for the game. Just see his ceiling as a top ten QB, but not a top five one.

    • steveccnv says:

      Stranger this may be your best post ever. Instincts for the game are really all that’s holding him back. How can it be that hard to learn? Coaches should watch tape with him and teach him the game,

      • stangerx says:

        Will assume that “may be” best over means you missed my talks about Gumby and Fields. 🙂

        But will stick by there are either instincts or there are not. You can coach up for situations….but can’t overcome what you are born with. And that comes from a guy who is still proud of having “out thunk” his athletic limitations…..but then couldn’t have done that in the NFL.

  20. stangerx says:

    Least shocking headline of the day.

    “Giants’ Brandon Marshall abruptly walks out on radio interview”

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/giants-brandon-marshall-abruptly-walks-135234627.html

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t blame him in this instance.

      • stangerx says:

        Marshall is a smart guy, but he does have his own problems. In fact pretty impressive what he has done despite his mental condition…..it still pops out though. No matter the issue, he could have handled it better.

      • dbolt48 says:

        I actually have no problem w/ the question. BM went out of his way publicly to make the race comment so it’s completely within reason to ask about it.

        The domestic violence question is another thing that people won’t move on from due to the nature of his actions. It also doesn’t help when he acts like an ass and is traded like every 2-3yrs because he can’t get along with his teammates.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Why did they have to go there though? I’m sure he was there to talk about being on the Giants.

        That said I’m not a fan of Marshall.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Nothing ever has to go there, but it’s unfortunately open for public consumption. They used their media platform like BM has….he just didn’t like it.

    • steveccnv says:

      Reporters have lost so much cred, that it’s trendy to trash them.

  21. dbolt48 says:

    On a better note I saw a photo of Charles Harris working W/ Jason Taylor.

    • stangerx says:

      dbolt — if it doesn’t get some deserving coach fired…..would love JT as a DL coach and Zach as an LB one.

      • dbolt48 says:

        I’d love JT as a DL coach….I want Zach to spend as much time as possible w/ his family. I don’t think his playing style was great for his long term health.

      • stangerx says:

        Why are worried about Zach’s playing style back in the day? He was one smart cookie and we are talking as a coach.

      • dbolt48 says:

        I’m worried about the concussions catching up w/ him….as much as I’d love to see him pass along his knowledge to today’s players, if much rather him enjoy time with his family.

  22. naplesfan2010 says:

    So rock who are the 2 guys in your stats comp above?

  23. dbolt48 says:

    Pouncey released?

  24. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, I think dbolt meant the violent way Zach played and the concussions he suffered. Meaning it may catch up with him down the road.

    • stangerx says:

      Seems he is worried about Zach spending time with his family (and still not sure why), but certainly seems dbolt is on a roll at least, and good to see him.

      • dbolt48 says:

        Being able to spend time w/ your children is much more important than coaching grown men on playing a sport is all I’m saying.

      • stangerx says:

        He’s 43 and worth millions. Seems he can sneak in some time with his kids while doing something else.

    • dbolt48 says:

      That’s correct. I’d rather him use whatever good days he has left to be w/ his family.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not all great players are coach material either. You can’t really teach greatness.

  25. Rockphin says:

    How does on submit an article to post on here? I have one in the can ready to go, I just don’t know how to submit it to Admin.

    • stangerx says:

      Rock — you were on the email list for the Fest. You don’t have the e-mail for an admin? If not just send it too me and I’ll get it along.

  26. Rockphin says:

    steveccnv says:
    July 13, 2017 at 1:43 pm
    So a QB moves his team down the field and scores and you compared him to a game manager? Go figure, you need to see it with your eyes to determine.

    Steve, not much to figure there. 8 of 20 for 60 yards? 40% completion percentage? NOT Elite in ANYONE’s book.

    Good team, or at least a good drive from a bad team, but when you throw 60% incompletions there is no argument that will stand that will convince me that is elite. What you described in your scenario was quintessential “manager”

  27. Rockphin says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    July 13, 2017 at 3:24 pm
    So rock who are the 2 guys in your stats comp above?

    Ryan Tannehill vs Marino’s first 5 years.

  28. pheloniusphish says:

    Rock – Send your article to Mike E. or Piggy.

  29. Tim Knight says:

    I often wonder if other fans scrutinize their QBs the way Miami fans do with Tannehill? I mean we break down every facet of his game adnauseam.

    I’m also not sure what Stanger and others mean by a lack of instincts for the game. You can’t play the position without instincts. Maybe because of his alleged lack of pocket awareness which I don’t buy. There are plenty of examples where he did creative things to escape pressure. There are also plenty of examples of “elite” QBs taking the same types of sacks that would seem to fall under the “they didn’t see it coming” category.

    Let’s be honest the pass protection has been poor to questionable since he’s been in Miami. It made strides last year after Gase cut a few guys who couldn’t hold up and went with guys who are at least serviceable. If we can keep our best 5 on the field for a good portion of the season I think we’ll see even more improvement.

  30. son of a son of a shula says:

    Rock you can send it to me, I’ll get it posted and even add some pics.
    johndibi@yahoo.com

  31. Rockphin says:

    Ok guys ENOUGH talk about Tannehill. (hold it) LOL

    • Tim Knight says:

      LOL, I mentioned it because I have seen recent posts breaking down ever stat possible about the guy. It’s still a team game with a lot of variables. He can play at a high level and even RT himself said consistency is something he has to improve on. That’s the case with every QB and the ones who can do it more often are the ones who become elite.

      I’m really excited about this season as long as injuries don’t completely devastate us. We have a lot of good talent on this team and I think this team can have a really good season despite some questions here and there. No team is perfect in all phases.

  32. Rockphin says:

    stangerx says:
    July 13, 2017 at 4:24 pm
    Rock — you were on the email list for the Fest. You don’t have the e-mail for an admin? If not just send it too me and I’ll get it along.

    Stanger, the problem with lists is you need to remember where you saved them. (If you ever did!)

    No worries, I sent it to Son.

  33. steveccnv says:

    I see Rock, elite to you is more stat based than getting the job done. Part of the point was even though you knee what happened on the plays you still need to see it.

    • Tim Knight says:

      After a rough 1-4 start that was on the entire team, Tannehill was part of the 7-1 run to get back into the playoff hunt and ultimately making it. That isn’t easy to do. This team has talent and character.

  34. steveccnv says:

    Heat vs Clippers, watching now NBA Summer League in Las Vegas.

  35. Tim Knight says:

    Maybe we forget sometimes, at 8-5 with Tannehill healthy, what could he have done? Moore did a great job as a pro backup QB. He helped the team go 2-1 to get to the playoffs. But could it have been more than that with Tannehill the way he was playing?

  36. son of a son of a shula says:

    New “Rock”in blog up

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