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Ken says:
November 13, 2017 at 10:35 pm
We know that but that wasn’t the debate. The debate was should we throw with 41 seconds left and that I don’t find fault on Gase
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What? You can’t have it both ways, Ken! Gase thought it was a good idea to pass with Cutler with 41 seconds left.
Different issue. You go for that with 41 seconds left with any pro QB. FWIW I didn’t want I wanted Kaepernick. But when your starting QB there are very few good choices.
Why do we never have enough players around the ball?
3rd string RB walks in without any resistance?
Well, Larsen is what I thought he was. Lol
Same here.
well steen and urbik are hurt and asiata can’t learn the playbook so who is supposed to play LG?
We are being out hit out hustled and out coached, game after game.
This is brutal. We’re entering this sucks territory. Oh shit we’re already there. The offense has sucked the life out of the defense all year. We’re back to last year. Ugh!!!!
Adam, you better figure this out soon.
The Cutler effect. He sucks the life out of everyone.
Thank God
Nice run Drake
Damn he’s fast
DRAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
only down by 17!!! wait… 17 is a lot with this offense. 😦
Fantasy points for me
At least big plays like that give us something to be excited about
naplesfan2010 says:
November 13, 2017 at 10:42 pm
well steen and urbik are hurt and asiata can’t learn the playbook so who is supposed to play LG?
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The idea was to address LG during the DRAFT!!! We waited until the 5TH ROUND to take Asiata!
See in a lot of ways we have excellent athletic ability. We are just so dysfunctional so often.
Naples,
DON’T get Old Dolfan and me started on our O-LINE!!! 😉
Of course I didn’t play Cam in fantasy tonight. I just couldn’t do it I am a fan first
Grey buried his guy!
Our run defense will not be as good after this game
and there you see exactly what i mean. A simple zone read and they let the QB go that easy
That did not look like PI in the EZ.
here’s our next OL draft pick!!!!:
He will be called for holding too often
soooo… no improvement on our current OL.
Matt Burke is over-rated.
I’ve never known anyone to rate him higher than worst in the NFL.
That’s not a TD.
no one cares
Maybe we can get this guy in the second?
Jaba the Hut?
Got me again!
https://i.giphy.com/media/DAAldV51KUzUA/giphy.webp
lmao. yup… that is exactly what it feels like.
shitty little ticky tack foul call
What with the illegal formation call
What the fuck do these guys do in practice
You can fix that?!?!?
Now they gave them the 1st
Well the sucking continues
we look like our best players are just mediocre.
I am done. We keep up like this with our schedule we will likely not win another game
We’ve got problems… and the problems aren’t the players.
Seem unprepared every week
And undisciplined
499 yard and 45 points tonight against our D
550
we are what the scores say we are
our last 6 games are brutal… 5-11 is as much possible as 10-6
It’s to bad I’m at work!
My draft evaluations start early. Sadly, we’re drafting high enough i’ll have to look at a bunch of suck ass QBs too.
https://twitter.com/cheftrillie/status/930273519207960576
Just catching up on the game. This is what happens when you can’t run the ball, stop the run, and lose the turnover battle.
Oh yeah? LOL!
I think the league needs to do us a favor and stop scheduling night games.
Rhino,
10-6 is about as likely as Jennifer Lopez, Sophia Vergara and Blake Lively getting in a fist fight over who gets to blow me first. Now, 5-11 is a whole different story.
lmao. I know what YOU are cheering for now.
Randy
Just let all 3 blow you
Is the journey worth the destination? This Fins journey is now on its 33rd year … I used to think my decades as a warriors fan ‘journey’ made the ‘destination’ so sweet. But in reality, most of that ‘journey’ had nothing to do with what made the ‘destination’. The Fins make incremental changes. Maybe Old Dolfan is right about ownership… culture changes start at the top.
This game makes me want to grab a marino figurine and march in circles with 5 other people. 😦
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we are outcoached on yet another drive
So, who will Gase cur/trade this week to salve his own hurt pride and cover up his coaching deficiencies?
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This game makes that decision look horrible
In the words of Foghorn Leghorn…
Boy, I say boy, this team just laid down on the coaches. And I say, the coaches don’t feel like couches.
30 first downs … 500 plus yards given up
Suh isn’t worth what we’re paying him, for one.
Gase has to realize he’s a HC and not just an OC. This shit needs to stop.
I don’t care who’s back in 2018, it’s not working the way we’re doing it. We don’t even compete.
Taylor Moton would have been a nice pick too. Either he or Elflein.
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Is this rock bottom? It feels like rock bottom.
Matty I
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No. That’ll be next week when Dolphins lose at home to Fitzpatrick led TB with Brent Grimes picking off Cutler twice.
Screw “Matty I”. He’s been wearing a dunce cap for years.
What’s more… he thinks it’s a joke? Grimes is kicking azz this year.
Seems Cam Newton did his best CASE KEENUM impression tonight.
MF13,,
No highly paid FA is worth the kind of money they get. Suh plays every game. He gets doubled on almost every single play and sometimes tripled. He is the best or one of the best couple DT. It’s the other guys…Wake specifically…who don’t take advantage of the attention Suh gets. Wake gets singled a lot, but he still disappears way too much. He should be making more impact plays. The other DTs also aren’t doing enough against single blocking. Suh can’t do everything.
You’re missing Wake getting doubled, too. I agree in principle, but Godchaux isn’t getting it done beside Suh.
DIDN’T I SAY that we should have signed either of Big Paul or McDaniel for a mere $1M???
$#!t, Randy… didn’t you see Wake getting doubled ALL GAME?
Cam Newton is a pisser. When he wins he loves himself, when he loses he wants to crawl into a corner. He’s a phony fuck. I wish him nothing but the…
Steve Young keeps talking about McCaffrey being Superman by cutting back and scoring a TD when it was actually a terrible play by Kiko. He had another defender there to play McCaffrey’s outside shoulder, and Kiko completely over pursues the play and misses an easy tackle if he’d just played it right. Kiko has sucked lately.
I’d give more credit to McCaffrey than to call out Kiko on that play… but that’s just me. I think Dbolt would agree with me here.
Kiko played horribly as did the rest of the defense. We sucked tonight.
Things never change. The quality of play is down across the league, and we are at the bottom of that. I really am just not enjoying the NFL anymore. I’m seriously thinking of taking up golfing as my Sunday activity.
Must be NICE to be able to take up golfing on a Sunday in November! It’s WAY too cold up here in PA for that, Cav! 🙂
Lol, I hadn’t even thought about that. Something I guess I just take for granted.
you can always jump on the Warriors bandwagon and feel good for a few years. lol
Yeah, I’m pretty much screwed. Being a Kings fan is even worse than being a Fins fan, but no way I could ever follow the Warriors. 🙂
It’s a really hard game and will frustrate you more. LOL
lol
Wake doesn’t get doubled nearly as much as Suh. A chip by a RB or TE isn’t a doubleteam block. Wake is often singled up on a RT, and he still doesn’t win very often. 6 sacks in 9 games, and 2 1/2 came against the Jets when, I think, a backup was playing RT. He should be doing more.
I’ve gone back and forth on this. Would you pay Landry big bucks, why?
No, Kiko over pursued the play when he should have played the player’s inside shoulder because another defender already had the outside. He should have played it to protect against the cut back…and I don’t care what Dbolt would say. I know what I’m looking at.
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Ok, time for bed. This sucks. Gase has lost this team. Guys flat out gave up tonight. Unacceptable.
Your opinion is noted and RESPECTED, my friend. I’ll have to take another look at that play, man.
We AGREE that the players gave up on Gase tonight.
Have a good night, and I’m AUDI as well!
Peace, y’all!
When does this team realize Drake is a difference-maker? He reminds me of Jamaal Charles or Ahman Green. Adam Gase, enough with the well we’re looking at him talk. Drake should be the #1 and Williams #2. That’s not a bad deal. Wake up! Landry catching 0-10 a million times isn’t the answer. It’s like Bess with Sparano. I know the OL isn’t that good, but the plays aren’t even designed to be better.
I don’t think you can look at this team and say that anyone is a difference-maker.
If the players gave up on Gase tonight then get rid of them all!
That said…..I thought the offense was a bit better especially going against a top rated defense. If Cutler didn’t suck so bad it would of been a shoot out.
Should have gone to bed …. FUUUGly
Wow. there’s pretty much NOTHING positive you can take away from that game last night. Nothing.
The strength of the defense, the line, is non existent…..again. Time to change schemes. There’s too much $$ playing up there for these results.
You don’t pay someone $115,000 to play DT to eat up two blockers. You pay a person that kind of money to make plays or be a playmaker. It’s a waste of money. Look at Carolina’s defense. Is there a Suh on the team? No. But, there’s a group of players making plays, including the LB we should have taken in 2012.
lol. $115m
I’d rather see the team start from scratch in some areas. Either cut Pouncey or try and trade him. Trade Tannehill and get what you can. Let go of James. Cut Suh and save the cap space and let Landry walk if you can’t get him signed for something REASONABLE.
If we go 6-10 or 7-9 after that at least we have a reason and as long as we’re getting in the right talent and building to compete I don’t care if we take a step or two backwards because we ain’t going anywhere anyways.
We lost that game all over the field last night, but our trench play on both sides was the biggest mismatch. Even if a GM spends a bunch of money on the O line though, it doesn’t guarantee success. Dallas (without their starting LT) was pushed around. Brutal season for us. Multiple shortcomings. Lots more change on the cards. When will all this end? Struggling to see how we avoid a losing season now, but let’s see what Gase is made of. Let’s also see which players if any quit.
There are so many holes everywhere on this team, where do you start
I think we are way over loaded on too many large contracts for a team not ready to compete
Gase has a long way to go but I’m not ready to give up after 1-1/2 yrs
Can’t hardly get my head around the idea that once again every player at every position has to be looked at but when you find yourself at the bottom of the pack there’s only one way to start moving forward
The defense quit on the team when Cutler gets picked at the end of the half. Up until that the D was playing okay. Once that happened it was as if the D said this offense sucks and stopped playing.
The real pro leg is it seems we get worse every game
I think there is potential to be the worst offense and defense in the NFL
They go backwards each week
I’m really at a loss. What do you do?
DID ALL OF YOU LAUGH at that drunk golfer swinging and missing and falling into the water??
NOW pretend that golfer is STEVE ROSS HIRING a GM. Jeff Ireland–a swing and a miss!! –Mike Tannenbaum–a swing and a miss!!
OR how about Ross hiring a head coach?? Sparano,Philbin,Campbell, and, maybe, GASE—-ALL SWINGS AND MISSES!!!!
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CLEARLY, the biggest problem is ROSS, himself. The culture of swings and misses HAS TO CHANGE!! The idiotic draft choices. The way too expensive free agents. The salary cap fiasco. The failed head coaches and GMs approved and paid for by this owner. The season ticket nightmares that have driven ALL OF MY BOYZ to stop buying tickets. And the over all lack of hope.
NEVER, not even in their very first year of existence, has the spirit of this franchise been lower. And STEVE ROSS, and his policies ARE TO BLAME!
THE NUMBER ONE NEED OF THIS DOLPHINS FRANCHISE IS A NEW OWNER!! –A NEW OWNER, and no one else, can break the cycle of stupid policies and stupid decisions. The climate of failure has to change!!!
I’m glad I didn’t watch the game last, I was traveling, but I was listening on the radio in the 3rd QTR, and I got home near the middle of the 4th.
What’s up with this team on Prime Time games? We may not get another one till 2020 the way we laid down and died in 3 PT games.
NO vs MIA 0-20 L
BAL vs MIA 0-40 L
CAR vs MIA 21-45 L
Not bad, we only lost 3 games by the total score of 105-21. WTFF!!!
LMAO OD – Do you have an alarm in your house that goes off when the Dolphins dip below .500 that reminds you to bitch about Ross? You’re too funny. The guy OWNS the team, he paid for it, and until he gets tired of it, or dies, he ain’t going ANYWHERE. Carry on though, if it makes you feel better . . . .
Piggy – Is there a fake pro leg? 🙂
The Flying Pig says:
November 14, 2017 at 8:06 am
The real pro leg is it seems we get worse every game
I think there is potential to be the worst offense and defense in the NFL
They go backwards each week
I’m really at a loss. What do you do?
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look at the bright side, the draft will be fun
Gase lucked into last season due to the new found running game, he obviously doesn’t understand how to win in the nfl. this is what happens when you don’t have a running threat.
we’re doomed
OD, i agree about Ross, he keeps hiring rookie coaches, coaches who have never been a hc in the nfl before, and they have to go against these masterminds like the hoodie, beating miami is childs play. Ross should keep his eye on any winning proven coach that becomes available and jump when the timing is right, meanwhile let the coach we have continue to build our draft status
maybe he can pry jim harbaugh away from michigan?
Ken, I agree the D was playing good until that Cutler pick before the half. That single play gave the Panthers so much momentum coming out in the second half. After the pick and score that was it for the D. Kiko looked way off last night. The TD where he got juked was one of many missed plays he had.
the toughest part of the schedule is upon us, sorry to say, it wont get any better. buff twice ne twice kc, omg!
Yes, many of us wanted him badly last year. Every mock I did, I had him on it. Like you said, we had to wait until the 5th to address OL.
When did he go last year? 2nd or 3rd?
A lot of people had them on their mocks
What I saw last night was a team that came in with a really good game plan (Panthers) playing a team with seemingly no game plan (Dolphins). IMO, their main goal was to neutralize SUH via double team him and man up on everyone else and they executed perfectly (something we can not do). ESPN touched on everything that makes the Panthers O successful before the game, quick out’s to McCaffrey, WR screens, read option and the QB draw. Doesn’t seem like we game planned for any of it, like we were caught off guard and weren’t prepared for it like it was something new. What F-ing film are they watching??? Tapes from when Matt Moore was their QB???? SMH
Attention MR Ross, The definition of madness;
keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.
Looked to me the Panthers used an offset line bringing in an extra tackle a lot last night always lining him up on Suh’s side so they could double him with a guard and tackle and still have a tackle on Wake. Anyone else notice or am I mistaken??
Anyway, that’s game planning Mr. Gase
Ou are not mistaken
they did it a lot
At one point The announcers pointed it out and they never see shit like that
Riaders did it a bit also the game before.
Successfully I might add. I’m sure we will see it against us next game as well.
we had a game plan, PASS! that’s it, and the Defense did their home work, they did not allow cam to get outside on the read, the DE stayed home for the most part until it got ugly.
the lack of offense is what made the D look bad, Cam Newton is not a good passing qb, he is in accurate. keep him contained and make him beat you with the pass, a solid game plan. we should have beat them.
a very predictable easy read offense is why we lost
That seems to be a theme
I very much agree with your very last sentence and, you are right, they did good against the read option until it got ugly. Now the QB draw is another thing.
Don’t know Piggy, I kept mocking for us to take Elflein in the second.
He was very popular here
I mocked him to us a few times
And I was mostly about having a defensive heavy draft
I still think going DE and LB in rounds 1 and 2 was a good plan
The 2 guys we got were not my choices
But I still like the theory of taking those 2
We don’t know what McMillan could have brought
Yeah, I kept going D in the 1st and OL in the second
It makes sense
I guess we
Could have went for Foster in the 1st and Elfein in the 2nd or something like that but it’s not easy to make it work
I do like the players we selected
Elfein went 70 which is early 3rd
We took Tankesrly about 27 spots after him
We took Mcamillan late 2nd
I think this is the year we really go heavy OL
I don’t know how you work in Tunsil and James
But I think they are part of our future too
Mike E. says:
November 14, 2017 at 8:42 am (Edit)
Piggy – Is there a fake pro leg? 🙂
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It’s actually an amateur leg
Piggy, I like the mock I posted the other day. I am using my Dads “The WOW Computer” for old people who don’t know much about computers and this thing won’t let you cut and paste. So I can’t repost it. You can’t even open other tabs on the internet. It’s a POS and he paid 1K for it.
I was able to get ND’s LG in the 1st (we were picking 17th, but that will change) and I got Auburns OT in the second, QB Riley Ferguson in the 3rd, then BPA (in my eyes, lol) the rest of the way.
I was able to get ND’s LG in the 1st (we were picking 17th, but that will change) and I got Auburns OT in the second, QB Riley Ferguson in the 3rd, then BPA (in my eyes, lol) the rest of the way.
I’m glad my happiness isn’t dependent on the success or failure of this team.
Rob
Which veteran HC did you want, besides Harbaugh who wouldn’t come here for anything? John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Who? Gase was highly regarded, and probably the top candidate for many teams, unlike Philbin who was more of a swing and a miss longshot.
Julius Thomas sucks. Add TE to the list of needs.
It’s been on my list for a decade. lol
I got nothing. 😦
Welcome to the club. Thing is, Gase has to fix it, not us fans. He’s paid the $$$$$ and now it’s time to earn them.
I saw a lot of guys quit last night. Not a good sign and worse when we are paying them a lot of $.
I think we’ll be in full rebuild mode next year. I bet we see a lot of changes.
Cutler is not that good. I saw him miss a lot of passes that tanny makes routinely.
Just blow it up again
In Gase we do not trust
Only way you and Boulder get your wish on that one is if In Gase Ross does not trust. And I think he does, even if maybe not as much as before.
Obviously last night was tough to watch, but who actually thought we were a ring contender? We played one last night. Only other one we’ve really played so far this year — even if we didn’t know it then — was the Saints….and we know how that one ended up.
What bothers me Stanger is we’re not even in some games, and at this point, too many of them. If you really look at this season carefully, how many good quarters of football have we played? If we’ve played 36 quarters, maybe 6-10? That’s what bothers me. It’s like we’re either totally unprepared, or just not executing, or both, but it’s too often.
We’ve played a lot more bad football than good football. It really sucks that it gets to the point where there is nothing to root for because the game is over too soon too often. We never start fast and play with leads. We’re always playing catch up until the score gets out of reach and there isn’t enough time left. It really sucks!
Mike E. says:
November 14, 2017 at 10:37 am
Rob
Which veteran HC did you want, besides Harbaugh who wouldn’t come here for anything? John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Who? Gase was highly regarded, and probably the top candidate for many teams, unlike Philbin who was more of a swing and a miss longshot.
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Gase is a rookie, he got a chance, granted we had issues this year but as of now he’s not getting the job done, this regression would be easier to swallow if he didn’t trade away the most valuable player on the team. that was a huge mistake and set this team back. he loses credibility for that.
as for his replacement i don’t have the answers, you just have to bide your time and jump when an experienced winning coach becomes available, it does happen.
the problem with that is does the force that makes these decisions realize that? is he ready to make that move? judging from his prior moves as of now i would think not, so strap in and get use to this sub par team.
the problem with this team is philosophy, from what i have witnessed Gase does not have a winning philosophy. he’s an easy read.
how long has it been since we have won a playoff game? i’m thinking 16 years, how many chances have we had to win a playoff game since then? was it 2?
i think i will be dead and gone before Miami wins another playoff game.
I actually meant when we hired Gase. Was there a coach that was available that you would have preferred over Gase?
you tell me
Mike McCoy (Broncos offensive coordinator)
Greg Schiano (Ohio State defensive coordinator)
Jim Mora Jr. ( UCLA head coach)
Jim Schwartz (Eagles defensive coordinator)
Jon Gruden (ESPN football analyst)
Mike Munchak (Steelers offensive line coach)
I think Gruden would have been the best choice
McCoy wasn’t too good in his first stint, Mora Jr. probably wants to stay in the college game. Schwartz wasn’t great in his first stint either. Gruden most likely will never coach again, he has it too easy on ESPN. I think Gase was probably one of the best candidates for the job, but he has to continue to prove that every year. Last year he did, this year, took a step back, but it’s not over yet.
It’s over Mike, the best that we could hope for is to lose and improve our draft position.
you could get Gruden, make him an offer he can’t refuse
it was over when the moron sent our best player to philly.
No point in discussing specific positions because what position played well last night?