Happy Thanksgiving!

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Happy Thanksgiving to all of you!  Enjoy the day with, family, friends, and have safe travels to wherever you’re going.  I hope there are some good games today, and I’m thankful we’re not playing today, because that wouldn’t be enjoyable at all! Don’t eat too much, ah bullshit, eat as much as you want!

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364 Responses to Happy Thanksgiving!

  1. ElephantRider says:

    I’m thankful for being….

    FIRST!

  2. ocalarob says:

    I think the dolphins are not happy with the current LBers, i do believe they are a liability in coverage. it may be the reason we got Anthony and also cut Timmons contract to one year after he went AWOL, Let’s see how they do covering Gronkowski this week.

  3. Mike E. says:

    Did we cut Timmon’s contract to one year? How did we do that?

  4. Phindog says:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone !! I hope you all have a Great day. Out here it will be in the 90’s but we will still be cranking up the oven for a great feast. 🏈🐕

  5. mf13ss says:

    If the Draft were TODAY (and assuming we pick in the top-10)…

    R1- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
    R2- Mike Gesicke, TE, PSU
    R3- Frank Ragnow, C/G, Arkansas
    R4a- Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio
    R4b- Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
    R5- STEPHONE ANTHONY
    R6- Rashaad Penny, RB/KR/PR, San Diego State
    R7a- JULIUS THOMAS
    R7b (from JAX for Branden Albert)- Logan Woodside, QB, Toledo

    I just did my first mock for the 2018 Draft! I usually wait until January 1st! Pretty telling for our current state of affairs.

  6. stangerx says:

    A stellar T-Day to all of you awesome folks. And don’t forget that the Turkey ain’t all that different from the roasted chicken get at the grocery store…..but only so many days in the year when you can put extra gravy on the stuffing. 🙂

  7. stangerx says:

    And every Thanksgiving Day……still on my list to be thankful for is Leon Lett.

  8. mf13ss says:

    I think Rashaad Penny, RB, SDSU (Marshall Faulk U) has just become my FAVORITE prospect in the 2018 Draft. He’s reaching Dri Archer status with me!!! He’s going to rise on MANY boards before it’s all said and done in April (currently projected as a 6th Rounder). If I were to predict the future, he might go on Day 2 of the Draft, just as Archer did (3rd Round).

    Penny’s got a WOBBLE to him when he’s head-to-head against a defender… you don’t know WHERE he’s going to go next. But here’s the deal… he’s not 5’8″, 175 like Dri Archer: he’s 5’11”, 220.

    7 career kick returns for a TD, 32 career rushing TDs with 7.2 YPC, 6 career receiving TDs (11.9 YPCatch… he’s a NICE receiver!), 4.42 40-low time, he’s got a stiff-arm, he can bowl people over, and he’s electric.

    And if ya don’t like that he’s from SDSU, he beat Stanford this year (175 yards rushing). This guy is a FREAK RB… he’s like Ajayi with the hands of Landry.

    “The Streak” Rashaad Penny 2017 Midseason Highlights

    • rgs322 says:

      His size is a big plus for me.👍

    • Mike E. says:

      Hard to tell from those highlights, he’s barely touched in most runs. I’d like to see him break a good tackler, or push a pile somewhere in there.

      • mf13ss says:

        Get our O-Line fixed and you see what he can do! 🙂

      • rgs322 says:

        Highlights or not, that kid has some good hands for a RB. …3:10 mark, damn. That’s Landry like. Plus, I love the return skills. Almost 400 yards rushing against Stanford and Arizona St, two PAC-12 teams, not bad.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        That’s what I was thinking too Mike

        But part of it might be his balance

        He’s barely shifting his weight in that video and accelerating very quickly bc of that – so he might be a big reason he’s barely touched

  9. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Enjoy your day. 🙂

  10. Mike E. says:

    M – I think we have (2) 7th RD picks. We got one from TB in a draft trade last year.

  11. herdfan says:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
    🍁🍽🦃

  12. The Flying Pig says:

    Happy Oinking Thansgiving!🐷🦃🐷🦃🐷

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    I actually wouldn’t rule out us drafting 2 tight ends

    With those 8 picks: 3 OL, 2 TE, RB, QB and a defensive player

  14. mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:
    November 23, 2017 at 11:58 am
    Hard to tell from those highlights, he’s barely touched in most runs. I’d like to see him break a good tackler, or push a pile somewhere in there.
    ———–
    Then check out what Penny did to Stanford…

  15. mf13ss says:

    One last thing about my guy RASHAAD PENNY…

    Penny has forced 65 (SIXTY-FIVE) missed tackles this year, which leads all FBS RBs (Stanford’s Bryce Love is second with 62).

    The toughest run-defense he’s faced this season is NIU (ranked #10 in the nation against the run right now, 2.74 YPC against). Penny put up 107 yards rushing on 25 carries (4.3 YPC) with 32 yards on 2 catches and a TD. If you can break 100 yards rushing against a top-10 FBS run-Defense, you aren’t just a gimmick RB who plays in a weak conference.

  16. mf13ss says:

    rgs322 says:
    November 23, 2017 at 8:06 pm
    Thanks for the video on him. The San Diego St. game was the only game this year I missed on Stanford’s schedule, so I didn’t get to see him play. I will definitely watch his bowl game.
    ———-
    No problem, man. I missed that game too.

  17. mf13ss says:

    MR. Wake isn’t forever, and we HOPE that Charles Harris will be all he was drafted to be in due time. However, we’ve had a MAJOR lack of a pass-rush this year. So why not add another pass-rusher in the mid-rounds (can’t have enough of ’em, right?)?

    Have a look at Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio, 6’6″, 255, Senior, 7.5 sacks, and 15.5 TFL (<– #12 in FBS) this year. Currently projected to go in the 4th Round.

    Check out every snap he took against Texas A&M last year… this guy is GOOD.

  18. mf13ss says:

    Film Study: Marcus Davenport Sack

  19. mf13ss says:

    Film Study: Marcus Davenport 3 Play Sequence

  20. mf13ss says:

    Film Study: Marcus Davenport

  21. mf13ss says:

    Marcus Davenport crushes the txst running back

  22. manitobafinfan says:

    Hope Yall had a great Turkey day.. work sucked..

    • mf13ss says:

      Sucks to hear that, Manitoba. Hope ya can sit down and enjoy now. Nobody should have to work on Thanksgiving, IMO. Happy Thanksgiving to ya, bud!

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Lol we had our Thanksging up here in October .. we only get the Monday after the weekend though.. its all good. Already swamped with Pre Xmas shipments so gonna stay pretty hectic right up to 15th …

  23. mf13ss says:

    Can ya imagine our DE corps being MR. Wake, Charles Harris, Andre Branch, William Hayes, and MARCUS DAVENPORT?!! Harris and Davenport would be our future (think of JT and Ogunleye in the early 2000s).

    • manitobafinfan says:

      Whoever it is i hope they get more pressure than we have this year.. very strange we get little to no pressure with the supposed amount of talent we have up front..

  24. manitobafinfan says:

    I’ll keep an 👀 out for him. I enjoy reading the names you and others throw out as that is how i get predraft educated to a degree.. kinda sux that is likely about all we have going forward.. Shock the world and take down the Brady Bunch Sunday

    • mf13ss says:

      It’s a BIG game on Sunday for us. If the Patsies* beat us, our Wildcard hopes go on life support. But if we shock them, we’re right back in the thick of it.
      GO PHINS!!!
      HELL YEAH!!!

  25. mf13ss says:

    First 2018 Mock Draft (11/23/17) *fixed from earlier (already moved Rashaad Penny up!)

    R1- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
    R2- Mike Gesicke, TE, PSU
    R3- Frank Ragnow, C/G, Arkansas
    R4a- Rashaad Penny, RB/KR/PR, San Diego State
    R4b- Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio
    R5- STEPHONE ANTHONY
    R6- Trevon Young, OLB, Louisville
    R7a- Logan Woodside, QB, Toledo
    R7b (from Tampa Bay)- Christian Campbell, CB, PSU

  26. manitobafinfan says:

    I’d feel better if it were a home game for us. Chargers making a run for the wildcard as well looks like.. always seems to come down to a dogfight between us Chargers and Ravens for last wildcard… at least we hold tiebreak over SD

  27. The Flying Pig says:

  28. ElephantRider says:

    At least Phins look better than the Giants

  29. ocalarob says:

    Mike and Tim, i had heard Timmons will forfeit the 4.5 Million in dead money if the Dolphins decide to move forward without him as the ramifications for going AWOL, so he may still have a 2 year deal but Miami can cut him without any consequences to the cap. This is what i remember not sure if it’s correct???

  30. ocalarob says:

    I know he forfeited something for going AWOL and returning so quickly

  31. Only 1 problem with Davenport. He’s raw and the Dolphins don’t have the coaches who can develop that talent

  32. ocalarob says:

    With Mcmillon Anthony and Alonso we may be going to a speed LBer group and dumping or restructuring Timmons

  33. olddolphan says:

    PIGGY: IT DOES MY HEART GOOD to see the one and only “Don of Miami” this Thanksgiving weekend! Of all the things I am thankful for, observing the career of Don Shula from close range has to rank right up near the TOP!! With Shula, there was NO 2-year plan or 3-year plan for success. There was only a 1-year plan. He took a 3-win team (1969) that had NEVER BEATEN THE JETS and NEVER HAD A WINNING SEASON to the PLAYOFFS HIS FIRST SEASON!! iN SEASONS 2,3, AND 4, HE TOOK OUR BELOVED TEAM TO THE SUPER BOWL!!! His 1972 Perfect Season is the standard BY WHICH ALL OTHERS ARE MEASURED. hIS 32-2 RECORD OVER 1972 & 1973 will never be beaten–NEVER!! His four consecutive undefeated seasons at home (1971-1974) will never be beaten–NEVER!! And his 26 seasons as Miami head coach was only stained twice by loosing records–another record that will never be beaten–NEVER!!
    —————
    Some people talk about achieving excellence. Only a precious few ever attain it. Don Shula was, and IS, the epitome of excellence!! –BRAVO TO YOU, DON SHULA!!

  34. olddolphan says:

    SON-OF-A-SON; Good luck to your UCF Knights as they seek their own “Perfect Season” this afternoon in Orlando. I’m rooting for the Knights to continue winning and, eventually, move on to a New Year’s Day bowl game and win that one, too!! BTW, the above mentioned Mr. Penny might get a chance to match his skills against Florida Atlantic’s Devin Singletary as at least one of the bowl projections has San Diego State playing FAU in a December bowl game. THAT would be interesting!!!

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Big day for UCF today. My friend got a spot for his RV for the first time so we can tailgate.
      The sad part of it all is that Florida among other schools will come dangling huge money and a shot at a National Championship in Coach Frost’s face once this amazing season ends and we slide back to mediocrity once again.

  35. stangerx says:

    Beasley did a breakdown of our offensive stats before and after the Ajayi trade. Hard to argue that things haven’t been working better on that end since, least when it comes to stats. Yards went from last in the league per game before to 8th since.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article186293288.html

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      The sad part here is that despite our offensive numbers increasing we have yet to win since dealing Ajayi. So there’s that.

      • stangerx says:

        Should have mentioned that the stats did not include turnovers and penalties, but bigger is the D that was keeping us in games before started letting us down.

  36. naplesfan2010 says:

    rethinking after the Turkey Day fiascos… Made OL and edge rushers look even MORE important …
    1 OG (Day 1 starter + 8 yr pro-bowl starter + LOL in Miami)
    2 edge rusher w/ impressive sack numbers NOT via the spin move
    3 TE (prototypical only … no tweeners, no 6’2 big, slow WRs)
    4 C/OG (Big school Power 5 solid soldier type)
    4 TE (fast seam buster, mismatch size to speed ratio, even if not a great blocker)
    6 KR / PR / RB (nobody under 185 lbs)
    7 BPA especially another OG (orST type LB/DB)
    7 DE (run stuffer) (small school badass = late bloomer = sleeper)

  37. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    November 24, 2017 at 10:43 am
    Beasley did a breakdown of our offensive stats before and after the Ajayi trade. Hard to argue that things haven’t been working better on that end since, least when it comes to stats. Yards went from last in the league per game before to 8th since.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article186293288.html
    —————-
    None of those stats has anything to do with Ajayi being gone. Drake has one run of 66 yards and Damien has one run of 78 yards. I can counter with Ajayi’s 71-yard run with Philly.

    TDs since the trade: Ajayi-1, Drake-1, Williams-0.

    Beasley is getting dopey again. We’re no better without Ajayi than we were with him. What’s more, who’s to say that Drake and Damien couldn’t have made those runs WITH Ajayi still in-house? Drake did it on his 5th touch of the Panthers game (he got 6 touches WITH Ajayi against Baltimore) and Damien did it on his 1st touch of the Buccaneers game.

    The biggest difference is, we can’t WEAR DOWN Defenses without Ajayi and we lose TOP. We lost TOP by a whopping 11 (ELEVEN) minutes against the Panthers and 4 minutes against the Buccaneers. Our Defense can’t get off the field with Drake and Damien, but it COULD when we had Ajayi… hence our 0-3 record WITHOUT Ajayi against ‘meh’ teams.

    Beasley, THIS is why our Defense has slipped over the last 3 games: we don’t have Ajayi eating clock and commanding 8 in-the-box.

    • stangerx says:

      Great points M13. And agree that it has less to do with Ajayi or not and more to do with the offense without him versus the one before. Two different animals. And like it or not, think the new one is more in line with what Gase wanted all along.

      • mf13ss says:

        Thanks, Stanger. I’m sorry, but I feel that Gase made a GRAVE mistake in trading Ajayi. We all make mistakes and coaches aren’t any different.

      • stangerx says:

        Wasn’t a fan of the trade for the compensation at least, but see a lot of reasons why it was done. And that includes the shape of our OL and having a QB who needs to get the ball out quick….even if only cause of the OL. And sacks are way down as well.

  38. mf13ss says:

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    CHANGE: Cameron Wake gets credit on sack for that bad non-safety call. So forget all that stuff we said about no sacks in 4 games.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Even though it’s obvious that Phillips was the primary sacker and Wake flew in and got an arm on him. Fucked up play all around it should have been a safety but not for cheating refs. It should have been ruled a safety on the field but not for cheating refs.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        I can’t understand why the league does not discipline refs who make a call like that which seems to not follow the intent and / or letter of the rules, just because they made an initial bad call and don’t want to admit they blew it.

        You could see on that ref’s face that that is what he was thinking . His face had that look that people get when they are saying “cuz i said so, that’s why, so deal with it because i never change my mind once it’s made up no matter what the facts turn out to be.”

        He was red in the face guilty. He knew he was wrong but is one of those people who can never admit they could be wrong.

  39. naplesfan2010 says:

    Thus
    Early player mock without considering Miami’s draft position 11/24/17 (or much else)
    1 OG Quenton Nelson Notre Dame
    2 DE Clelin Ferrell Clemson
    3 TE Troy Fumagalli Wisconsin
    4 C/OG Frank Ragnow Arkansas
    4 TE Chris Herndon Miami Fl
    6 KR / PR / RB Reshaad Penny San Diego State
    7 OLB Dorian O’Daniel Clemson
    7 DE Andrew Brown Virginia

  40. naplesfan2010 says:

    To me, the Ajayi trade reduced my esteem for Gase by 38%.

  41. ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    November 24, 2017 at 10:43 am
    Beasley did a breakdown of our offensive stats before and after the Ajayi trade. Hard to argue that things haven’t been working better on that end since, least when it comes to stats. Yards went from last in the league per game before to 8th since.
    _________________________________________________

    He forgot the most important stat, 4-3 with Ajayi and 0-3 without

  42. ocalarob says:

    Maybe if we brought Lawrence Phillips back we could run the ball better, i know his stats have been down since his death even so he may still be an improvement on this team

    • olddolphan says:

      YOU know, Rob, Lawrence Phillips isn’t the only dead person who’d be an improvement over what Miami has now, especially in the owner’s box!!

  43. BailBondMike says:

    M13, If we miss out on one of your 2 OL, there is another OL from NCState who is really good in all aspects of his game (can’t remember name). Could be mistaken but believe he has allowed 0 sacks in his first 3 seasons coming into this season playing against the likes of FSU and Clemson. At work but will try to come up with his name.

  44. Phins need an offensive line but if it’s a choice between Chubb and Nelson you’re taking Chubb all day, every day. You can’t justify passing up on him for Nelson.

  45. mf13ss says:

    BBMike,

    I see that both NC State Guards Tony Adams and Terronne Prescod have yet to give up a sack this year, as is the case with Tackle Will Richardson. Tackle Tyler Jones has only given up 1 sack, as is the case with Center Garrett Bradbury.

    That’s one helluvan O-Line, man. Damn!!!

  46. BailBondMike says:

    M13, his name is NC State RG/C Tony Adams, 6’1″, 315. Played 97% of offensive snaps last year and has NOT allowed a sack in his first 3 years coming into this year. Forgot about him coming into this year so don’t know how he has done except for their first game of this season where he played all 103 snaps with 5 knock downs and allowed 0 sacks and 0 QB hurries against the Gamecocks.

    Since he is a RG, he could be a steal in the 6th round if he is still there.

    He is a good character guy also:

    http://www.gopack.com/news/2017/11/1/football-senior-spotlight-tony-adams.aspx

  47. wow. I didn’t realize that about Flowers. gotta feel for him. you look at someone like him and you can’t have any excuses for why you can’t do something.

  48. BailBondMike says:

    Interesting thing in that article about Tony Adams is that he attributes his good footwork to him playing competitive tennis until he was 15 y.o. and his father is a world class wrestling coach.

  49. Tim Knight says:

    I saw a stat recently where we lead the league in QB hits which prompted Burke to say our coverage needs to give the front 4 another 1/2 a second.

  50. BailBondMike says:

    UM goes down, wow!

  51. olddolphan says:

    SUNSHINE STATE COLLEGE FOOTBALL hasn’t just been about “The Big 3” for several years (That’s Florida, FSU and Miami for you non-Floridians). FAU won back-to-back bowl games during the Schnellenberger years. UCF won the Fiesta Bowl. South Florida has been to, and won, several bowl games. Today’s “fall from glory” by the “U” isn’t the only story. The REAL STORY is that both FSU and Florida have losing records, while UCF, USF and FAU are all headed to a meaningful post-season bowl game. Even FIU (in Miami) will be headed to a minor bowl.
    ————–
    SON-OF-A-SON, you act like Frost would automatically JUMP at the Florida job. NOT totally sure that is true. He has performed a minor miracle in Orlando. And, if he chooses another job, NEBRASKA may be the choice of this former Cornhusker QB. Yes, I know UF has already interviewed Frost. But, he HASN’T signed the offer sheet, and may not. Some day, coaches will view “the little 4” Sunshine State schools as a final destination, NOT just a means to an allegedly “better job.” And that year could be FAR SOONER than the “Big 3” want to admit!
    ————–
    Three possessions, 3 touchdowns in “The War on I-4!” And, unlike Hard Head Stadium, note that EVERY SEAT in Spectrum Stadium actually has a fanny in it! –TAKE THAT, STEVE ROSS!!!

  52. mf13ss says:

    Rashaad Penny’s already ripped a 41-yard run against New Mexico. Halfway through the 2nd quarter right now.

  53. Tim Knight says:

    Part of the problem with our running game is we get down by two scores too often and have to play catchup so we pass more. At least that’s been the case in 3 of our last 4 losses.

  54. mf13ss says:

    Annnnnd Rashaad Penny with the 20-yard TD run. He’s got 117 rushing yards coming up on halftime.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Are you going to post what he does during halftime? 😉

      • mf13ss says:

        Why not? He just flew to Brazil and saved a kitty that was stuck high in a tree, defeated ISIS, and solved world hunger! And halftime isn’t even over yet! LOL 😆 😉

  55. mf13ss says:

    Rashaad Penny: 51-yard rush for the TD. This guy is a FREAK.

  56. Tim Knight says:

    Cutler, Bushrod and Hayes are out this Sunday. For the Pats C Andrews, RT Cannon and WR Hogan are out.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Could this be the week Asiata is active? Davis is also the backup tackle now so we need a guard and a center for depth with the game day 7.

      LT Tunsil/Davis
      LG Larsen/Asiata
      C Pouncey/Brendel
      RG Davis/Asiata
      RT Young/Davis

  57. naplesfan2010 says:

    oops, some of those guys i had earlier mocked would never last to the rounds i wanted them in, plus some are saying that Clemson DE is not coming out this year, so this is more realistic, at least as of now, pending Bowls and Combine and funky stuff.
    11/25/17
    1 OG Quenton Nelson Notre Dame or Edge Rusher Bradley Chubb NC State
    2 Edge Rusher Chad Thomas Miami FL or OG Billy Price Ohio State
    3 TE Troy Fumagalli Wisconsin
    4 C/OG Bradley Bozeman Alabama
    4 TE Marcus Baugh Ohio State
    6 KR / PR / RB Reshaad Penny San Diego State
    7 OLB Dorian O’Daniel Clemson
    7 DE Rasheem Green Southern Cal

    • Tim Knight says:

      I like your balance though we’re not there yet when it comes to who goes where. You can’t do mock drafts in late November. 😉

      How is Reshaad Penny a 6th rd pick with M13 posting his greatness like he’s a top 10 pick? LOL

  58. olddolphan says:

    Colossal “WAR ON I-4” game enters the final quarter with USF leading UCF 34-28.–WOW!!!

  59. mf13ss says:

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    Since 2000, only 15 FBS players had run for 200+ yards in a game 6 or more times in their career. #RashaanPenny makes it 16 FBS players this evening against New Mexico. #SanDiegoStateAztecs #Stud

  60. mf13ss says:

    WOW, UCF!!!

  61. mf13ss says:

    WHAT A GAME!!!

  62. son of a son of a shula says:

    UNDEFEATED
    What a game

  63. olddolphan says:

    UCF WINS THE “War on I-4” in a game that truly lived up to, or EXCEEDED, the hype!!!–Game of the Year in college football in my opinion!!! Player of the game??–Quentin Flowers, quarterback, USF! Passed for about 500 yards and ran for lots of yards, too!! –It was a game for the ages!!! How any high school recruit IN ANY STATE can not be impressed is beyond me!! –If I was the President of Central Florida, I’d offer head coach Scott Frost an extension that equals what he’d make at Florida or Nebraska!!
    —————–
    Tomorrow at 2 PM, Florida Atlantic plays at Charlotte in the last regular season game on the schedule. The Owls may rest a few of their front line stars IF they establish a comfortable lead. But, as any Canes’ fan can tell you, beware of over confidence when playing on the road. Looking ahead to the C-USA championship game the following week COULD BE DANGEROUS for FAU.

  64. BailBondMike says:

    What a crazy game OD. Glad for UCF but feel bad for the guy who fumbled there in the end.

  65. olddolphan says:

    CONGRATULATIONS, SON!!!! – – I wonder how many kids will be born about nine months from tonight in the greater Orlando area??? (mark Aug. 24 on your calendars.)

  66. BailBondMike says:

    Guess I will try to catch VT vs Virginia and see what this Virginia QB is about.

  67. Tremaine Edmunds is the real deal.

  68. Why the love affair with Nelson? If you have a shot at Orlando Brown you take him and move Tunsil back to LG. That solves the issue on the left side. I’d take Brown over Nelson in a heartbeat.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      because Nelson is a 6’5 330 power guard and I’m tired of gettin’ DTs either bull-rushin’ us or standing up our OGs so we get no push.

      I’m not looking at OTs until I hear James is done. Tunsil is my LT unless he sucks the rest of this year. If so, there are several good OTs out there and Brown is one.

      I’m also really tired of “position flexibility” as it seems to really mean “mediocrity.”

  69. D says:

    That UCF USF game was awesome. One of the more exciting college games I have seen in a while.

  70. D says:

    Nelson is an awesome OG. As an OG prospect hands down Nelson over Brown. Brown might be a better prospect if we are looking for a guy who might play RT or OG for us, as in we aren’t sure we will have James when the season starts or if we have to pull his 5th year before the league year starts.

    There are some good OL prospects most with position flexibility. Wynn out of Georgia is a guy who could play or backup at any spot.

    I like Martinas Rankin out of miss state as well for same RT possible, OG if James will be back kind of player

    • I don’t know if Brown can play G and I wouldn’t want him for that but if he’s there and Nelson is there Brown is definitely the better prospect of the two. He’s a technician at his position. So you take him and either move Tunsil to LG or RT and be done with it. If you move Tunsil back to LG you solve the issue on the left side of the line.

      I think Miami exposed Nelson as a slower blocker who will struggle with speed. I wasn’t trilled with that.

      I really like Trey Adams as well as his center Coleman Shelton. Again, I can care less about the guard position and position flexibility at this time. Take the best prospect and be done with it. If the guy is going to be a stud at LT or RT I don’t care. The offensive line needs to be fixed and there seems to be some really good offensive line prospects in this upcoming draft.

  71. naplesfan2010 says:

    This draft might be deep at OL. Seems to be so. That’s good for us. But I disagree with taking a guy at a spot we are OK at like OT (unless see my post above) and neglecting OG/C

    because our offense is dying up the middle.

    • This is the same “argument” we’ve been having for years on this blog. I remember when we had Sean Smith and I was banging the table for a CB and a lot of people said we didn’t need one because we were okay at CB.

      I really don’t care how we get it done. So if Brown is there and he’s the better prospect whether he’s a LT or not means nothing to me. Tunsil played LG more than well enough for us and we can move him back inside and fix the left side of the offensive line. So, we’ve got one guard position sewn up.

      If we choose a guard, so be it, but I’d rather choose the better player than choose a guy just to fill in a hole at a position. That, IMO, is exactly what we did in picking so many defensive players in the last draft and, in particular, with the selections of Taylor and Godchaux. Wouldn’t be surprised if either is around in a couple more years.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        There’s a difference between a 1st rnd blue chip like Nelson (and Tunsil) vs. 5th rounders like Godchaux and Taylor. We HAD to draft defense throughout the 2017 draft, and we did very well with that. This year it is offense we need.

        Harris will continue to improve and so will Tankersley. Godchaux and Taylor are good for what we got them for which is depth that can explode for a handful of plays each game. McMillan will be a long-time starter at LB. Guys get hurt. No one’s fault.

  72. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would not be opposed to drafting OG in the first this year, as we really need a stud inside, but if we could get a top tier edge rusher, I’d take him in the first and get a 2nd round OG.

    We need playmakers. Impact players. We also need our DL coach to scheme better so Suh is not routinely doubled on every play with little threat to the offense. i have started to see him line up standing up in a linebacker depth and picking his spot to rush through. I like that look.

  73. BailBondMike says:

    M13, I really like your guy Penny but think with his size and performance, he will probably go in the first 4 rounds. He would be a stud for us but I would really like to see us get 2 OL, TE, QB, and a CB or DL with our first 5 picks. Maybe a decent QB prospect slips to the 6th and you can get Penny in the 4th. I could handle that. Someone like Riley Ferguson could slide that far with his past history of being a rebel but think he has grown past that and teams will see that.

  74. BailBondMike says:

    I have been looking at RB’s who we could get in the 6th or 7th. Did anyone stay up and watch any of the Cal/UCLA game? I really like Cal RB Patrick Laird. Kid has some moves. Cant find much video of him. He could be there in the 6th if he comes out. 6′ only 200 lbs but has a frame to put on more muscle. He is a really good receiving threat also.

    • BailBondMike says:

      He’s a one year wonder kind of guy but is explosive kind of runner. Has really quick acceleration. He probably stays at Cal another year. If so, he will be on my watch list next year.

  75. olddolphan says:

    NAPLES SAYS “I’m not looking at Tackle until I hear James is done.”
    HAVE IT YOUR WAY. JAMES IS DONE!! He was done the day he arrived. He’s only gotten worse over the years. The FACT that he was a 1st round pick speaks volumes about our NFL worst scouting department that has served up one blown pick after another in every draft since Ross took over the team. Need I need to remind you of Dion Jordan or a certain wide receiver named “CORROOOOO” who, between the 2 of them, ate up large portions of 2 entire drafts???
    —————–
    TRUTH IS, with the possible exception of Tunsil, our O-Line is GARBAGE, pure and simple. And it won’t get better until we see dramatic improvement from our horrid scouting department, from our director of player personnel, and from our owner. And, right now, Ross fiddles while Miami burns!
    —————-
    And, as for “position flexibility” equalling “mediocrity,” that would surely be true in the case of Miami’s O-Line. Indeed, being mediocre would be a giant step forward for this group. That said, Pat Elflein, who is currently kicking ass as Minnesota’s starting center, REALLY IS OUTSTANDING at both C and G, BASED ON HIS RECORD. Many on THIS BOARD strongly recommended taking “the Elf” in the previous draft, but NO-O-O-O!! Our idiot scouting department took a DE with 1 or 2 recorded sacks and an LB who played exactly one play of exhibition football this season. Those of you who think this “DOOFUS BRIGADE” of Dolphins’ leadership can lead us out of the jungle of despair are in for a rude reminder come draft time. Yes, boys and girls, ANOTHER draft will go by and the result will be the same. Miami will still have one of the worst O-Lines in the NFL. Only a NEW OWNER can turn around a once great franchise.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Raekwon’s injury cannot be ascribed to a drafting mistake. You cannot say that Andrew Luck was misdrafted because he has been injured a lot recently.

      • olddolphan says:

        YOU, can not compare Raekwon with Luck. But you did. I would have taken “ELF” over Raekwon all day every day so, yes, I CAN say, and I DID SAY that taking Raekwon over the Elf in round 2 was a mistake and, so far, the results bear me out. Anyone who wants to defend the current regime certainly is free to do so. But I prefer excellence to excrement. Those of you who prefer the record of the “DOOFUS BRIGADE” have chosen excrement, IMHO.

      • stangerx says:

        OD — he was only saying that you can’t blame the injury on scouting. Raek had no significant injury history. It’s not all pro “current regime” or against no matter what happens.

    • I agree. This is like a broken record when it comes to this team. I can’t for the life of me fathom how they can be sitting there after FA and the draft and be thinking to themselves that things are getting better. Look at the cluster we’ve got now.

      Hayes is hurt, Maualuga with a douchebag move, Timmons with another douchebag move, trading Ajayi. The list goes on and on. Think about this. William Hayes, Lawrence Timmons, Rey Maualuga, Jermon Bushrod. Four spots on this team that I can go back to at least 2010 and say we’ve had a chance to fill the holes for the positions these guys occupy and we’ve failed miserably to do so.

      I also agree on James. Don’t know what they saw or what they thought they saw to take him in the first round but he’s another in a long line of picks that didn’t live up to where we took them in the draft.

      The offensive line needs to be fixed and when it comes to how it’s done it doesn’t matter if we pick a guard, a tackle or a center. And I can care less about position flexibility. All I care about is the guy is top notch at what he does.

  76. BailBondMike says:

    Going to watch Alabama RB Damien Harris today. He is their #2 RB behind Bo Scarbrough but leads the team in yards and ypc. He is another who could be there in the late rounds cause of Scarbrough’s size, he gets all the hype.

  77. naplesfan2010 says:

    I do not think our OL is pure garbage. Last year, they blocked for a thousand yard rusher and a thousand yard receiver and yielded fewer sacks than those of recent Miami history. Those are competency benchmarks that were met.

    Pouncey was the best center in football for a few years, but his hips are compromising his power.
    Tunsil is good and will be good enough. James is good and has stretches of greatness.

    Bushrod tries hard, but he’s aged out and he’s done now.
    We have no NFL-starting-quality LG at this time.
    Or at any time this season.
    Plus our OL coach was a hysterical basket case incapable of leadership.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      So my point is, whether through the draft or FA, we MUST get 2 NFL-starting-quality OGs.
      If one is Tunsil, then fine, but then we need a pro-bowl level LT.

    • When Ajayi had his best games last season Gase was using Young as a 6th offensive lineman and had Gray in there blocking as well. He went away from that after those games and we saw the drop off and he never went back to it. The only viable starter on the entire line is Tunsil. James is proving to be a panty waste, Bushrod was signed as a last ditch effort to get someone to fill in at RG, Pouncey is most likely finished and we don’t have a starter at the LG position. Larsen sure isn’t the answer.

      So now, after all these years of drafting and filling in holes in FA we’ve still got nothing on the offensive line. This is pitiful.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        It IS distressing, but i think a lot of teams in the NFL are having OL problems. I think the DL has been getting the better athletes for about a decade, maybe because of the paycheck difference, maybe as well because of rules and schemes and trends.

        I do not think James wears panties at his waist. He might not be the road grader YOU want, but to me that guy should be at the RG, which would help James considerably, as it should.

        The league goes through these pendulum swings. i think it might start shifting with this draft, as it is loaded with quality OL.

  78. naplesfan2010 says:

    Penny might rise to the late 3rd or early 4th and that might be fair value for him, but if that is so, then we can’t get that guy, because RB is not that large of a need for us. OG, OG, TE, TE, and a sack master of a Pass Rusher are all greater needs for us than a KR/PR type RB.

    Now if he falls to the 6th, he’s a steal.
    Also, FA might help us fill a need that would open up a spot to get Penny or a similar type skillset.

  79. naplesfan2010 says:

    Chubb has 3 problems.
    1) He’s a bit too heavy in the bad way, especially for his position. He should be playing OG. (see my post above)
    2) he’s a hothead and a goofball personality-wise. He has a strong tendency toward being a dirty player.
    and 3) he has benefited from being a man among boys for many of his games. He was one of those “early-bloomers,” which made him seem better than he is. As other guys catch up in maturation, he will lose that automatic superiority he had in the college game and be forced to rely on a level of athleticism he might not actually possess. His cousin is the same way.

  80. ocalarob says:

    I don’t like taking RBs early but if we have a chance to get Barkley….?????

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      i like the player, although he has looked more human in some games.
      i just think a RB in the first 3 rounds is a luxury pick for us,
      given the state of our OGs and TEs.

      A serious injury to Drake or a solution to OG in FA could change our needs though.

      • ocalarob says:

        Drake isn’t even a flash in the pan, he’s not a complete RB. I agree RB is not a value pick however Dallas did well last year taking elliot and Gurley is paying dividends for the rams, Barkley looks like the 2nd coming of Ricky Williams.

        that said the value picks are QB…DE…T…CB in that order, we are set at QB,DE and T..
        CB could be a consideration.

        T Baum has always had a strong running game so Barkley could be in their sights

  81. olddolphan says:

    NAPLES; Your reference to some of our O-Liners as being better in the past is irrelevant. Right now, our O-Line, except for Tunsil, IS GARBAGE!!! Pouncey is done; Bushrod SHOULD have stayed retired, JAMES never was worth a shit and we have air holes at a guard position. Meanwhile, our head coach was bragging that “We are fine, all set” in the O-Line as Summer Camp ended. He’s either a liar or a damn poor judge of both O-linemen and O-linemen COACHES (snort, snort)!!
    ——————
    Admitting there’s a problem is the first step on the road to fixing a problem. It’s clear the “DOOFUS BRIGADE” is either unwilling or unable to take that first step. Could it be that Gase’s over blown ego is getting in the way?????????????

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I do think Gase needs to mature a bit, and I think the Ajayi fiasco is ample enough proof of that, but his handling of Pouncey is more subtle but just as concerning.

      I really disagree about your grading of James.

      I agree that we have no bona fide NFL starting guards.

      • olddolphan says:

        THANKS for agreeing on 3 of my 4 major points, Naples. This puts you eons ahead of the “DOOFUS BRIGADE!!” Regarding James, if he is a starter on next year’s Miami O-Line, THAT will be an indication that Tannehill may be in for another short season.

  82. ocalarob says:

    I don’t think the offensive line from a talent standpoint is bad, i think it’s more of a lack of coaching, I think running the ball is way down on the list of priorities with Gase. Pass protection is his priority and that’s why we are weak at running the ball.
    The guy wants to pass his way to the superbowl, how else can you explain the Ajayi move?

  83. BailBondMike says:

    Rob, our OL is such a glaring need for me. If barkley were there, I would have to unfortunately pass and go OL no matter what in the 1st. It really sucks that we are still in this position of need. IMO

    • ocalarob says:

      you don’t take a guard in the top 10 of the draft IMO, take one later on, we are set at Tackle, we took Asiata last year he should be ready to step up soon??

  84. naplesfan2010 says:

    We might need to draft a pure sack artist, because we aren’t getting nearly enough sacks.
    Maybe that is because we aren’t getting enough coverage sacks as Gase says.
    But i do not think we can afford to draft a safety or CB with our offense the way it is.
    On defense we are old at DE.

  85. BailBondMike says:

    I wonder what OL/RB’s are on other teams practice squads we can poach the last two games of the season just to get them on our roster before next year? Can you do that?

  86. stangerx says:

    Matt Moore is starting tmrw. Official reason is cause Cutler is still in the concussion protocol.

  87. olddolphan says:

    Young Stanger: BOTH you & Naples totally missed my point on “ELF” vs. Raekwon. I did NOT blame the injury on the scouting department. GOT THAT? –I blamed their JUDGMENT!!! –ELF is a better pick at #2 for Miami than is Raekwon, and, so far, the record proves me right. WE need a solid G-C worse than we needed Raekwon, that’s ALL I’m saying. But, I’ll go even further. ELF will be a BETTER PRO than Raekwon, even when Raekwon gets healthy!!!

    • stangerx says:

      What makes you think I missed your point? All I commented on was his.

      • olddolphan says:

        YOUR WORDS, that’s what made me think BOTH pf you missed my point.
        Just to be sure, I’ll repeat: ELF will make a better pro than Raekwon and THAT’s why we should have taken ELF in round 2 instead of Raekwon.
        ————-
        OUT to watch some football.

      • stangerx says:

        What in my words OD? Truth is that don’t know anything other about Elf other than where he was drafted. Do know a bit about Raek though. But if you feel that Elf would have been the better choice then I pretty much take that he would have been a good choice as fact given how much respect I have for your football insight and particularly since would have preferred to go OL anyhow.

        I just take in your wisdom on such and a lot of things. Handed Ken a ziplock bag for his cell phone for the Fest just in case and told him how you taught me that.

  88. naplesfan2010 says:

    OD
    “YOU, can not compare Raekwon with Luck. But you did. I would have taken “ELF” over Raekwon all day every day so, yes, I CAN say, and I DID SAY that taking Raekwon over the Elf in round 2 was a mistake and, so far, the results bear me out. Anyone who wants to defend the current regime certainly is free to do so. But I prefer excellence to excrement. Those of you who prefer the record of the “DOOFUS BRIGADE” have chosen excrement, IMHO.”

    Well no one is comparing Raekwon to Luck in any way except that they were high draft picks who have injuries now, which make them currently have no value to their teams. That sad fact does not mean the people who drafted Luck were stupid. Raekwon’s injury does not prove that the people who drafted him were “doofuses.” It’s just bad luck. (Please pardon the pun.)

  89. Tim Knight says:

    We were rumored to be very high on Elliot in 2016 but he went too high for us to make a deal which was also rumored we were trying to do. So it’s not like we don’t value the RB position.

  90. naplesfan2010 says:

    I also think Gase mis-handled Byron Maxwell btw.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Why? Maxwell was the one playing poorly and not playing the right coverages. Was Gase supposed to keep rolling with him? Then people would say why is he still starting that guy. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        It might be that way. But if he was not playing the right coverages, that still goes back to “management.” Having insubordinate employees is at least a partial failure of the manager in not knowing how to inspire them to do their best and follow orders.

        I have never been sold on Anaruno the DB coach.(sp)

      • Tim Knight says:

        Maxwell is a vet. He needs to be a pro, not act like a college kid.

      • stangerx says:

        What do both Maxwell and Ajayi have in common?…..both sat at one point sat by Gase. Maybe that is the flip side of building culture from the guy who re-signs the good locker room and practice guys like Stills and Jones.

  91. naplesfan2010 says:

    Sooo
    Will Brady throw more TDs than Moore throws INTs?
    My thought is if they are pick 6es then … no.

  92. BailBondMike says:

    My internet at work sucks. Takes 3-4 minutes to make a post or refresh the blog. It’s worse when I try to access other sites like NFL.COM or Ourlads.

  93. BailBondMike says:

    Tim, I agree that we need top talent but we don’t have enough picks in the 1st 3 rounds to do that. We don’t have much $ to hit FA next year without doing a lot of restructuring. There have to be certain players on teams deep at a specific position with players who could be poached for nothing who are better than anyone we could draft in the 6th or 7th round next year, heck maybe even the 4th round.

  94. The front office mishandled Maxwell in that the trade was a stupid trade to begin with. You trade down five spots with Philly and you get to eat a huge contract along with it and the only additional compensation you get for trading down and eating the contract is Alonso?

    That trade was terrible from day one. You never eat someone else’s contract for them when they want to move up in the draft. I can’t imagine the conversation that took place for that one to happen. Seriously, what the hell were they thinking? It’s not even about the fact that Max isn’t with the team anymore. It’s just the fact that we traded down with Philly and also ate the contract.

    That’s very poor on the part of Grier and Tannenbaum. The entire league was probably shaking their heads and laughing when they saw that one.

  95. When everyone gets a look at how slow McMillan is going to be getting to a play they’re not going to be happy with him. Not only does he not react fast enough after the ball is snapped he doesn’t have the ability from the MLB position to play sideline to sideline.

  96. stangerx says:

    How to get in the doghouse while holding a clipboard. 🙂

    Ryan Mallett was fined $12,154 by the NFL for “repeated verbal abuse of game officials.” Mallett didn’t even play in the game. The Ravens were given a 15-yard penalty during the game due to Mallett.

  97. We could use a guy like Lorenzo Carter on our team as well.

  98. BailBondMike says:

    OD, I think the UCF vs Memphis rematch will be a much closer game this time. Memphis is already up 28-0 in 1st qtr against East Carolina.

  99. rgs322 says:

    Watching Ohio St/Michigan. Billy Price looking good early. Giving up zero ground to Michigan’s DTs.

  100. rgs322 says:

    GO Michigan!!!

  101. BailBondMike says:

    Memphis up 49-0 at the half 2 yards short of 500 yards total offense in the first half. They aren’t even trying to run up the score. Ferguson has only passed 12 times, 8-12 for 238 yards 2 TD, 0 INT. WR Anthony Miller (my Landry replacement if he doesn’t get resigned) 3 rec, 144 yards, 1 TD.

  102. BailBondMike says:

    Riley Ferguson with another 61 yard TD strike, geezzz. 55-0

  103. Mike E. says:

    McMillan was the 3rd fastest LB, behind Jabrill Peppers and Duke Riley. Some people just post things to be annoying. They know who they are and why they do it. Just become a fan of another team, it would be better for everyone.

  104. BailBondMike says:

    Time to watch a better game. Memphis sitting starters now in mid 3rd qtr leading 63-13. Ferguson was 9-13 for 299, 3 TD, 0 INT. 8 diff players scored. Perfect display of setting up the pass with the run by Memphis. Their only loss was a blow out loss to OD & Son’s UCF. I look forward to their rematch in the conf. championship.

  105. rgs322 says:

    I just went back and watched a 12 minute video on the ND/Miami game. It was every offensive snap ND took and this is what I noticed. All 3 1st half picks by ND’s QB was with a clean pocket and most of the negative run plays in the first half and pressures where from the right side of ND’s o-line. With that said, Miami was dominate in both halves, and McGlinchey did have a few bad plays. …couple sacks, with one being a strip sack. As for Quenton Nelson, I didn’t see any bad plays. He was the only ND linemen that would get a passing grade.

    I wouldn’t hesitate to take Nelson, even with a pick in the 8-10 range of the 1st round. He’s probably the best OG prospect coming out since DeCastro and Mankins.

  106. Tim Knight says:

    BB Mike, you can find OL in the 3rd and 4th too. So let’s say we went OL in the 1st or 2nd and another in the 3rd or 4th, that’s a start. Maybe a FA as well and then let the competition begin. There is no perfect solution but there are only so many ways to find them. Let’s hope we can make some upgrades.

  107. Tim Knight says:

    We replaced Maxwell with a 3rd rd pick in Tankersley who has more upside for the future and his contract is off the books in 2018. No big deal. We ended up with Tunsil and Alonso and the team likes those two players. Way too much being made of it.

  108. rgs322 says:

    Now I know why Michigan isn’t ranked. …no QB.

  109. rgs322 says:

    Auburn/Alabama next….

  110. rgs322 says:

    Stidham and Kerryon Johnson are the two I’m keeping an eye on in this game.

  111. Tim Knight says:

    The way this team is set up, I think we’ll be in good shape moving forward. Are there some questions, sure? But we can rebound in 2018. This team is not void of talent. We just need some young guys getting better, get some guys back, and the vets play to their ability. Then add some upgrades. It’s not as dire as some of you seem to gleam about. LOL

    Not sure why some of you are so quick to piss on everything, but it’s getting kind of weird within under 2 years after a playoff appearance last year since the 08/09 season.

    Ross, Tannenbaum, Grier and Gase are in season 2 with a 3rd offseason coming up. Look at what has gone on with this team this season and then sit back and realize why it’s not what you covet?

    You want to keep ignoring it, go for it. But you’re not being realistic. All four will be back in 2018 and Tannehill will be the QB. Be a fan, jump off the bandwagon or whatever. But your predictions are nothing more than hyperbole.

    Go Phins!!!

    • Tim,
      this team made the playoffs with a last place schedule in Gase’s first season and now we’re 4-6 in his 2nd season. We won the division in Sparano’s first season and didn’t do squat after that. It’s more of the same old thing. I think people who see something other than what’s staring them in the face are the ones who aren’t being realistic.

      Yeah, you’re probably correct about those 4 being back next season but if they are it doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. You talk like this team is going to go somewhere if they keep this “core” of front office personnel, coaches and players around longer. It’s only going to prolong things and keep this franchise in the toilet for a few more years until either the team is sold, Tannenbaum is fired, Gas is fired, Tannehill is replaced or all of the above happens.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        I disagree with Lou’s grim assessment.

      • You can disagree all you want but when you look at our 4-6 record it says differently.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I don’t compare past coaches and draft picks as being the same before they happen. It’s not the same people.

        This FO along with Gase has stuck to the draft plan with the exception of a few FAs and re-signing our own. Not much has gone right this year. But I do see a core in the future that can be built on.

        I haven’t written off this season because it can still happen. But I’m not overly opportunistic.

        If you don’t agree, it doesn’t really matter. You’re on your 180 flip that you have proven time and time again for years. None of us know what will happen. Life as a sports fan. 🙂

        Go Phins!!!!

      • where’s the core? who on the offensive line beyond Tunsil is salvageable at this point and don’t say Pouncey or James because Pouncey’s hip makes him a liability there and James hasn’t proven he’s reliable either.

        so, we’ve got 1 out of 5 positions on the offensive line sewn up for next season. this is the difference between mediocre teams and good teams. our guys look at the situation and say, “yeah, we’re good at 3 positions. we’ve got Tunsil at LT, Pouncey at C and James at RT. all we need are two guards”. That’s why this team sucks. They don’t see reality.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      well written and right on target

  112. Mike E,
    I won’t say another word about McMillan’s speed. I’ll just let his speed, or lack thereof, speak for itself when he plays for us next season.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Mike E stated a fact.

      • Let me just say, in response to his comment above, I didn’t make the statement about McMillan to stir things up. If you go back to my comments before the draft I said the same thing. I didn’t want him. I said then he was too slow to react and there were plenty of examples of run plays getting around the edge because he couldn’t get there.

        He’s a downhill guy and if the play is in front of him he’s okay but he can’t play in space and he’s not got the sideline to sideline ability we need from a MLB. Once again, we chose a guy at a position just to fill a position because there was a need there rather than taking the best player we could regardless of position.

  113. Tim Knight says:

    The team was excited about McMillan. He was young at 21 years’s old, 6-2 240, quickness, speed and strength – 4.61 and 23 reps, a student of the game. His physical ability was secondary to his football IQ. Young guy willing to learn but got caught in a bad situation and a torn ACL. Yeah let’s write him off. Ugh!

  114. Tim Knight says:

    It’s all good.

    • can say the same about your comments as well Tim. being optimistic doesn’t mean you’re realistic. the team’s been sucking for a while and it’s not getting any better so I don’t understand how you can say your argument is better than someone who see’s it differently.

      • Tim Knight says:

        It’s not. You’re the one who knows all. There is a difference. I look at what we’re doing, you look at what you would do. You’re not a pro talent evaluator. Neither am I.

        My opinion is this team knows this year got fucked but the plan is still in place. They didn’t think they were going anywhere this year but they can’t tell the players that or send that message to the fans.

        All I’m saying is this team can rebound in 2018. You don’t have to agree, I don’t care. I get the 2017 season, it’s not good. Like I need to see stats and other crap to get it. LOL

      • I look at what we’re doing too and what I see isn’t good. We’re 4-6 after a fantasy 10-6 season and I said we’d go 10-6 last year. Bit of a homer I was even thought we did it. I also said we’d go 11-5 this season but I came to may senses.

        I’m adopting the “show me” attitude from here on out. When they actually DO IT then they can say they have/had a plan but, until then, I don’t care what they say. And, I’m not talking about going to the playoffs one year. Let’s see some consistency and then I’ll believe they actually know what they’re doing.

        Yeah, I’m not a pro talent evaluator. Apparently, there’s nobody on the Dolphins who is either.

  115. son of a son of a shula says:

    Bama going down

    Wisconsin and UCF will be the only remaining unbeaten

  116. Washington LT Trey Adams and C Coleman Shelton playing in a little bit vs Wash St if you want to check out some offensive line prospects for the Phins.

  117. BailBondMike says:

    South Carolina TE Hayden Hurst looks like a monster.

  118. Ken says:

    Professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    November 25, 2017 at 5:41 pm (Edit)
    You can disagree all you want but when you look at our 4-6 record it says differently.
    —————————
    So our record this year is relevant but when someone mentions last years record it was a “fantasy “ or last place schedule. You are cherry picking again and your lack of credibility continues.

    • lol. last year is over. we’re in 2017. how is what we did last season the slightest bit relevant to what we’re doing this season? Ajayi had over 1,000 yds rushing for us last season and also had a couple 200 yd games. But, like Tim says, Ajayi is gone. Who cares? Last year we had Albert, Tunsil, Pouncey, Bushrod and James on the offensive line. This year we’re missing a LG. Everyone else was the same.

      I’m just telling it like it is. If you think I lack credibility than maybe you should take a look at the Phins organization because if there’s someone who lacks credibility it’s definitely them.

  119. BailBondMike says:

    Tim, I agree our team is not that far off. Our problem is consistency on our OL and our best TE is an aging Fasano. Our D has been on the field to much and we end up always having to play from behind. With the loss of Tanny, Gase dumbed down our offense to a fault.

    • IF Gase is the right guy for the job he may never get the chance to prove so as long as Tannenbaum is involved with this team. If Ross decides to get rid of Tannenbaum he may have a chance but if Tannenbaum stays I don’t think Gase will be able to do anything with this team.

    • The interesting thing about the inconsistency in the offensive line is 4/5 of the starters from last season are back. Boggles the mind.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s been a bad year and some peeps keep acting like it’s been the same thing for many years. Not true.

      I’m still rooting for us to beat the Pats this Sunday. If not, oh well.

      Go Phins!!!!

      • How hasn’t it? Please explain.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        He means it wasn’t a bad year last year. Why does he have to explain that Lou

        You know it hasn’t been the same thing for years when we were a playoff team last year

      • olddolphan says:

        ACTUALLY, TIM, it HAS been the same thing for many years. NOT ONE TIME since Ross took control of the team have I felt we were serious Super Bowl contenders. That also will be the case next year, too. We haven’t won a Playoff game since the 2000 season. If that’s not your version of being bad for many years, rest assured it is MY definition of not being good for many years. “BEING GOOD” means winning a playoff game. This will be our 17th consecutive season of not being good. And next year will be our 18th year.
        ——————–
        REST ASSURED, though, that I, like you, will be rooting for our team to beat the Cheats in Foxboro, something we have not done for about a decade, I believe. –I wonder if Gase will smile when Matt Moore passes for over 300 yards and leads us to victory??? Or, perhaps he’ll scowl and say “Cutler’s still the starter”?

  120. The Flying Pig says:

    “Bring me the head of Tom Brady” avatar is up

  121. Adams and Shelton looked good on that opening drive for Washington.

  122. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, hope you had a nice Thanksgiving. 🙂

  123. Randy says:

    I think this an average team with some nice individual pieces….but not enough. Our defense looks really good and then gives up big plays and 40 points. Inconsistent. Our offense, even with Tannehill, was mediocre. And it was also inconsistent. To me that’s the key. We have been so inconsistent in both phases. We are undisciplined and get a lot of penalties. I just can’t say a team who plays that way is anything but average. The troubling part is that we’ve seen it for years now. Talent doesn’t matter if you can’t make the basic play.
    ****
    I get that it has been a crazy year, but stuff happens to all teams. Yeah, we got our fair share this year, but the focused, disciplined, well-coached teams find a way to play thru it. We have looked bad in many games. There’s no excuse for that….I don’t care how crazy your season has been. This shit we’ve watched has sucked. Lol

  124. Tim Knight says:

    OD, we haven’t been real SB contenders since 1984/85. We got worse in every phase around Marino and never got good enough to beat the Bills even under Shula. Then Dan retired in 2000 under Jimmy Johnson after losing 62-7 to the Jags in the playoffs in 99/00. The worst loss in team history. This team hasn’t been a real contender for over 30 years including Shula for 10 years of it and Marino for 14. Who do you blame for that?

  125. mf13ss says:

    Ahhhh… my beloved kava. Oh how I like to drink you after exhausting day. I make toast to kava gods before each gulp. Great for relaxation and tongue always numb. I make another cup and drink it from coconut shell. Thank you Isaac Asiata and Mike Pouncey.

  126. olddolphan says:

    TIM; You are a shitty football historian. How many games Miami games did you attend between 1985 and 2000??? –I’m going to guess “ZERO”–which is also your credibility score with me when it comes to Dolphins’ history. For your edification, I will point out the year I believed the Dolphins were a credible team, a team that won MANY playoff games and was a damn sight better than ANY TEAM we’ve seen on the field lately.
    ————————————————
    1990 12-4 (W-L record) WON Wild Card game.
    1992 11-5 Won AFC East and a divisional playoff game. Lost AFC Championship game.
    1994 10-6 Won AFC East and a wild card playoff game as Marino beat the Chiefs and Joe Montana.
    1998 10-6 Won wild card game over the Bills. Didn’t U say Shula coudn’t beat the Bills?
    1999 9-7 Won wild card game at Seattle.
    2000 11-5 Won AFC East. Won AFC playoff game over Manning and the Colts 23-17 in OT.
    ————————
    AND JUST WHERE did you come up with this shit about “getting worse in every phase of the game under Marino and couldn’t beat the Bills under Shula”???? Want me to list every time Don Shula beat the Bills during his 26 years at Miami?? Want me to list all the NFL records set by Marino and Shula??? —Exactly what cave have you been living in??? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ———————–
    TRUTH IS,Tim, THIS ALL HAPPENED IN THE LAST 30 YEARS. And, yes, in several of those years, we had a respectable team capable of winning a playoff game. Of all the fabrications and lies you’ve posted on this site, your statements above must certainly be among the most inaccurate.
    Get a clue. Get a good football history book. And attend more games than you do. Then you should be on the road to finding the truth that, so far, has eluded you.

  127. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    November 25, 2017 at 9:09 pm
    How are other teams doing on their 2nd and 3rd QB?
    ———-
    3rd QB? You mean Case Keenum?!! 🙂

    • olddolphan says:

      OR how about that famous FOURTH string QB, Kurt Warner, the old grocery store bag boy who, in 1999, replaced Trent Green and won a SUPER BOWL??? –OOOOPS!!–1999 WAS BEFORE TIMS’ TIME, WASN’T IT??–LOL!!!

      • olddolphan says:

        TIME to walk the greyhound and have a Colorado Kool-Aid celebration of FAU’s win today, winding up their perfect 8-0 record in Conference USA!!

  128. Tim Knight says:

    OD, you like history the way you portray it. I’m well aware of all the stats you stated. What about playoff wins and realistic contenders? Not so good eh?

    You like to throw out insults yet I hear you’re some kind of great guy. Maybe I’m being fooled by others. You come off as immature to me. Have fun with your nonsense as the great historian. You’re not who I thought you were and I don’t care anymore what others say about you. I hope Ross lives to 100 and owns the team the entire time.

    Fuck you and your BS.

  129. mf13ss says:

    I’m passing a cyber kava to both Old Dolfan and Tim. Drink up and feel the relaxation… ahhhhh.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He insulted me peace and love guy. That doesn’t seem to matter to you. I’ll deal as it is. I’m tired of being thrown into the mix of peeps who can’t be cordial.

      People say shit and it is what it is. It’s cool with me. I know what was said. LOL

  130. mf13ss says:

    Good game here between Notre Dame and Stanford!

  131. Tim Knight says:

    M13, really? Do you want me to point out all of your failed prospects. Please!!!! How’s Dri Archer doing?

    It’s easy to play Monday morning QB and pretend to know shit. Give me a break. Sorry but OD is not who I thought he was. I reached out a few days ago to him and I guess he missed it or didn’t care. You want to spoon with him, go for it. I’m tired of it.

    • mf13ss says:

      I understand what you’re saying… I do. I just hate it when there’s ugliness going on on this board. I’m not going to referee the spat, assign who drew first blood, or call low blows… I just hope y’all can be more civil to one another.

      I hold you both in VERY high esteem, so I’m not going to say anything else about it.

      HEY!!! Who is this Dri Archer guy you speak of? NEVER HEARD OF HIM!!! LOL 😉

    • Tim Knight says:

      Shula was 4-17 against the Bills from 87-95 including the playoffs. I should pick up a history book? Maybe put down the Don Shula love fest bible. Marino was the QB the entire time with the exception of 1993 when he went down with the Achilles.

  132. Trey Adams of Washington actually suffered a season ending injury in October. So, I was having drunken hallucinations. hehehe

  133. Piggy,
    c’mon man. you’re not a playoff team one year surrounded by seasons where you don’t have a prayer of making the playoffs. it doesn’t work that way. you’re either a playoff team or you’re not. we made the playoffs last season. doesn’t mean we’re a playoff team.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      We were a playoff team last year
      And we are not this year

      So what is going on this year hasn’t been going on for years

      I think it’s simple

      • Making the playoffs and being a playoff team are two different things. If you’re a playoff team one year and the next year you’re this bad you were never a playoff team to begin with.

        Playoff teams have consistency. This team isn’t a playoff team.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Obviously they are 2 different things

        But I told you what he meant and I think it was obvious

        This hasn’t been going on for years – that was his point and it’s a good one

      • we had a short interlude of decency and now we’re back to being mediocre again. so what has changed? it would be a different story if we were doing better this season but this is pretty much just a repeat of what’s been happening since the days of Sparano.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I’m inclined to let it play out a little a judge with a critical eye

  134. Tim Knight says:

    Crickets! That’s what I thought.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      It’s because everyone fell on a sword simultaneously

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not really, OD is not the historian he thinks he is, unless it’s 1974 or prior. Good to have been there and enjoyed that, but in 2017 or in recent times to insult people when you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about is something else.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        He means well
        Give him some room to vent
        Everyone here is a fan at the end of the day
        And none of us have any control over what the team does
        So…

  135. mf13ss says:

    I see discussion about Raekwon’s speed. You have two types of speed: straight-line speed and playing speed. Both are great to have, but playing speed > straight-line speed.

    Zach Thomas was a slow straight-line speed runner, but he was so football smart that his playing speed was incredible. Let’s hope Raekwon is in the film room at least half as much as Zach. If so, he’s going to be a NICE player for us. I’m cautiously optimistic about his future, granted he comes back 100% from his ACL injury.

    • Tim Knight says:

      You didn’t care when it was Jaylon Smith so Raekwon should be good right?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Before he was a Dolphin I was a big critic of his and thought he played slow

      I expected a slow 40 time and was proven wrong
      I guess we will have to wait to see him play on he field

      But I am happy we have a young LB to work with in ’18

      • I would be thrilled with Roaquan Smith, Tremaine Edmunds or Lorenzo Carter to go with our other LB’s.

      • I used to be like that but I can’t do it anymore. I would be a critic of a player and then when we would draft them and I’d jump on the bandwagon but I’m doing it again because it never turned out for the best.

        I call it like I see it and more often than not it’s worked out that way. We’ve taken way too many players from 2010 to the present I wasn’t a fan of and they didn’t pan out with this team and McMillan, IMO, will be the next one who Phins fans won’t be thrilled with after they see him. Again, just my opinion, and if it turns out he is a good player I’ll be more than happy to eat my words but I didn’t like him before the draft and just because he’s on the team I don’t have to like him.

  136. rgs322 says:

    Stanford flexing their muscles here in the late 3rd/early 4th quarter. 🙂

  137. wow. nice int in the endzone by Stanford

  138. rgs322 says:

    B. Love has more 50 yard runs than every team in America this year except for Arizona. He has 11 to Arizona’s 13.

    Not to mention, he’s been dealing with a high ankle sprain the last 6 weeks.

  139. Tim Knight says:

    I’m going to post this again just incase some of you missed it.

    Tim Knight says:
    November 25, 2017 at 10:36 pm
    Shula was 4-17 against the Bills from 87-95 including the playoffs. I should pick up a history book? Maybe put down the Don Shula love fest bible. Marino was the QB the entire time with the exception of 1993 when he went down with the Achilles.

    It’s okay to disagree, but when you don’t have a clue, please be humble enough to at least be willing to listen and understand where others are coming from. 🙂

  140. The Flying Pig says:

    It could be worse guys

    You could have been stuck watching he fast and the furious marathon on the plane back to NYC

    😬

  141. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, see OD 9:35. It’s basically me telling you you’re dumb. LOL

  142. ElephantRider says:

    Facts shmacts…..I only care about my version.

    • Tim Knight says:

      “We got worse in every phase around Marino and never got good enough to beat the Bills even under Shula.”

      I point this out going 4-17 during 87-95 against the Bills and I get told I need to learn history. This is history. Shula got schooled because he forgot about defense. He had the QB but kept drafting half ass WRs and RBs. Nobody wants to hear that because he’s an icon. A great coach would have gone to 2-3 SBs with Marino. No?

      • ElephantRider says:

        Shula was the greatest coach ever, imo. But he got old……

      • Tim Knight says:

        Maybe during a decade Shula was the guy. He’s the HC of longevity with the most wins but not a big winner in big games. Nobody wants to hear this.

        2-3 in SBs with Miami and 0-2 with the Colts. Yes he got there but he isn’t viewed any longer as a championship HC. I love the man and had a poster of him on my my wall in probably 1975 or so. But let’s be real, he lost big games more than he won them. Nobody wants to hear this.

  143. Tim Knight says:

    Bill Belichick is 5-2 in SBs as a HC and is 2-1 as a DC. He’s coached in 10 SBs. Regardless of what you think of him, 10 is hard to debate. Most coaches would love to get to one. He has 10 appearances at 7-3. That’s a charmed life.

    • ElephantRider says:

      Cheaters do win

      • ElephantRider says:

        I hear what you are saying tho. People on here want you to listen to the cold hard facts…..only when it suits them. Fact is if you are my age, you’ve never experienced a championship. And I only remember the loss to SF…..I was 10. It’s now 33 years later. But let’s bitch about the newest owner because the last one was so awesone.

      • Tim Knight says:

        So they say and I hate the Pats on a sports fan level, lol. But if you’re a coach or player and get to be a part of the run of a 10 or maybe 11 SB run? WTF?!!!

      • Tim Knight says:

        LOL @ 2:16

        In the 1985 SB 84 season, I was 19 and listening to a friend of mine telling me, dude…. I told you the 49ers were too good and would shut you down. I had to say fuck you, you were right. LOL

  144. ElephantRider says:

    Tim

    I had just moved to California during that last SB loss. Ugh……

    Never would of thought I’d still be waiting to see another opportunity. Fucking Ross!!

  145. Tim Knight says:

    I was just looking at our cap situation and we can clear about $50M without touching Suh, Tannehill or Pouncey. Dead money and cuts it’s easy.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/cap/

  146. Tim Knight says:

    Compensatory picks are usually some time in March. Should we expect much? Who did we lose vs. gain in FA? I don’t expect much if anything.

    Yes I’m up late or early or whatever you want to call it. 🙂

    • Brian in NY says:

      We lost Sims (5th rounder) and no one else I can think of that would possibly grant us compensation. We re-signed a bunch of our own this past offseason, so I don’t expect much compensation, if any.

      I guess it depends on whether or not you have gone to sleep yet!

  147. olddolphan says:

    WELL,WELL,WELL. –I return to this site and I read Tim’s reply: “FUCK YOU and YOUR BS!”
    Way to go, Tim. THAT’s the most intelligent thing you’ve said in some time. Is ripping Marino and Shula to shreds the best you can do?? Boy, you’ve REALLY convinced everyone on this site that you are THE FOOTBALL EINSTEIN, haven’t you? If this is your idea of extending the hand of peace then I’m afraid I’ll have to say “no, thank you.”
    ——————–
    I realize that, for some, this is the time of “alternative facts” where fiction is treated as fact. But the facts are that your’s truly was, for the most part, a happy camper during the ’70’s, the ’80’s and most of the ’90’s. The Dolphins’ overtime playoff win over the Colts in the 2000 playoffs made me proud to be a Fins’ fan. Taking the long view, the years from 1966 to 2000 were full of positives and monumental achievements. Instead of ripping Marino & Shula, I stood with pride and was proud of this team’s first 35 years. Didn’t have to blame this team although, some on this board would have you believe the first 35 years weren’t so good.
    ——————
    But THAT’s what I would expect from an amateur observer who, apparently, didn’t feel strong enough about the Fins to go to Super Bowls, attend playoff games, or celebrate the greatness of those years by attending a few home or road games.

    I feel sorry for you. You missed a lot, and it shows.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Not speaking for Tim here or anyone else
      but sometimes when you (and I) speak of the good ol’ days of Dolphins greatness,
      I think instead of instilling pride in them, it makes them sad they missed it or pissed they missed it.
      I think sometimes it seems like you’re gloating to them about something they did not participate in, as if they are not as “good” as you are, or as good of a fan, when most of these guys were not even born in time to have gone to the Super Bowl in 1972.

      I think constantly comparing our current teams, coaches, FO, stadium ambiance, etc.
      to the magical near perfection of the best coach in NFL history, the perfect season, and the rockin’ intimacy of the Orange Bowl seems like throwing it up in their face, like fun we had that they can never have.

      And really the odds of us ever achieving that standard again are slim. But it’s not necessary for us to see that again for them to enjoy being a Miami football fan today.

      So if you scream the fun out of being a fan these days, you are going to get some pushback.

  148. BailBondMike says:

    Tim, I am not expecting any comp picks that way I don’t get disappointed.

  149. ocalarob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    November 25, 2017 at 10:36 pm
    Shula was 4-17 against the Bills from 87-95 including the playoffs
    Marino was the QB the entire time with the exception of 1993
    _____________________________________________

    Why are you cherry picking certain years? if you want to compare marino and shula vs the bills shouldn’t you include all games played?

  150. son of a son of a shula says:

    Patsie game day no in-fighting

    Today we separate Brady head from Brady body

  151. Ken says:

    Jetssucks is back. Time to get the grammar check software again

  152. Ken says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    November 25, 2017 at 11:10 pm (Edit)
    that’s why I got rid of the barcalounger. I thought it was barking at me.
    ———————-
    That was funny Lou.

  153. ocalarob says:

    Tim,
    Marino and shula went 10-10 against Buffalo all time, and that includes the 4 years Buffalo fielded a very strong team and went to 4 straight superbowls

    • ocalarob says:

      11-14 all time, not sure how much Marino played 94 after his achilles in 93?

      • ElephantRider says:

        He was mainly talking about Shula. Things weren’t so roseyt even though you’d think Phins have been playing in SBs every year til Ross bought the team

  154. ocalarob says:

    Go Miami

  155. The Flying Pig says:

    If we don’t get dumb penalties today we can win

    Bonus if we hurt Brady
    He was on the madden cover this year…where’s the curse?

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      The TRIfecta…
      Hurt LadyBoy, Amendola, & Gronk all 3 before halftime.

      That’ll give us a 50/50 chance to come back from the 3 TD deficit.

  156. Mike E. says:

    Wow, this got ugly fast. I hope you guys can find it in your hearts to forgive each other. I hate to see this, although I understand it. We’re all very frustrated by our team’s failures this season. Winning cures a lot of things, no question about that.

    Here’s to hoping for better things from our team, and our blog going forward. It would be great to start today with a big upset win against the Patriots. Most prognosticators don’t give us a chance, and I get it, we haven’t given anyone a reason to think otherwise. I’d love to see us beat the Patriots, however it happens.

  157. Ken says:

    ocalarob says:
    November 26, 2017 at 10:27 am (Edit)
    11-14 all time, not sure how much Marino played 94 after his achilles in 93?
    ———————
    He played all 16 games and had on of his best seasons

  158. Mike E. says:

    No knock against Shula, but he coached most of his career without free agency. Comparing him to modern HC’s is pretty difficult. It’s a completely different landscape these days. So few teams are able to maintain a high level of play, and there are just a handful of teams that are perennial contenders, Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, and Seahawks. There might be a couple of other teams, but those have been the most dominant.

    • Ken says:

      We were perennial contenders and playoff teams with Shula for the better part of 2 decades. As the game started changing started changing in the mid 90s is when Shula started to lose his touch. We made some bad free agency investments at that time

  159. ElephantRider says:

    Mike E

    I don’t things escalated fast. I’ve been reading his knocks on Tim for awhile now. Tim bit back, no biggie.

    And……

    GO PHINS

  160. mf13ss says:

    Adam Beasley‏Verified account
    @AdamHBeasley
    16s17 seconds ago
    More
    LINEUP CHANGES

    MIAMI DOLPHINS

    OFFENSE

    #26 Damien Williams will start at running back
    #77 Jesse Davis will start at right guard
    #79 Sam Young will start at right tackle

  161. herdfan says:

    Good grief…JS comes back and starts in on the plagiarism thing again? And it’s not just saying it here….from what I understand he’s gone outside the blog to try to settle the score. Not sure about anyone else but I’ve had enough of it.

    Stay the hell away from the blog and from all of us in our lives. What kind of f’ed up do you have to be to do that? I don’t care if OD copied every single word….who the hell made you the police of the blog? If he had copied it all, what harm did it cause you JS? Hmmmm? Some petty jealously or whatever you want to call it. You’re like some grade school tattle tale, trying to get someone in trouble. I had to set up your account myself when this blog first started because you couldn’t figure it out yourself. I’m ready to pull the plug on you and your bullshit.

  162. rgs322 says:

    “#77 Jesse Davis will start at right guard
    #79 Sam Young will start at right tackle”

    Yikes!!! …But I guess it was expected.

  163. stangerx says:

    Top definition of troll on urban Dictionary:

    “One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.”

  164. ElephantRider says:

    Lol Mike E!

  165. ElephantRider says:

    Asiata still inactive……

    Looks like Caroo gets to dress today

  166. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP! We definitely need one! Sheesh!

  167. Mike E. says:

    jetsssuck – Was that really nasty, personal attack necessary? WTF?

  168. herdfan says:

    Wow….Not going to debate my age, or the end of my marriage, none of that is a secret. My Dad however is a different story. He was a good man, a great dad to me and my sister. He worked hard to provide for us and died one of the cruelest ways imaginable. To go there to try to score some points….lower than low.

    Way to go JS….you truly have shown the type of person you are.

  169. herdfan says:

    What pathetic excuse of a human being does that kind of thing?

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