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If the Draft were TODAY, we’d be selecting anywhere from R1P7-9: we’re tied with the stej and Buccaneers for overall record [we’ll see how it gets ordered (SoS, conference/division record, etc)].
Greater point is this: we’ve now entered the top-10 zone. And if the Broncos beat us next week, we have the chance to move into top-5 territory.
I am NOT suggesting we should tank the rest of the season… that would hurt our ability to bring in a decent FA who wants to play for a contender.
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The Broncos are 3-8.
The Broncos have lost 7 straight.
The Broncos QB is unknown.
The Broncos open as a 1-point favorite on the road vs. Dolphins.
So here goes (the “Suck for Luck” analogies)…
Screw off for Mason Rudolph?
We have the number 7 pick right now
A real shot to move into the top 5 with a loss next week
Thanks for the official update, Pig. YUP… real chance to pick top-5 next year.
We suck!
Eating crud for Bradley Chubb
Tankin’ games for Derwin James
Really suckin’ for Courtland Sutton
Lol.
As Phin fans we have a yearly ritual…..get excited about draft position! Lol
HELL YEAH!!! LOL 😆
Sucketh heartily for Saquon Barkley
Suk’n for Saquan
I LIKE!
I owe you a beer
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Here we go!
Lol
speaking of Barkely it would seem we are down to 1 RB
Playing so tragic for Minkah Fitzpatrick
Chokin’ on shit for Roquan Smith
mf13ss says:
November 26, 2017 at 9:09 pm (Edit)
Does somebody… ANYBODY understand why I’ve been thinking that Cutler may be concealing an injury of sorts? Something is out of place from the preseason to the regular season with Cutler… and Gase is only calling dinks and dunks for Cutler.
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i have said over and over again that I don’t buy that theory. Teams can get into serious trouble with the league if you are concealing injuries. Injuries must be reported to the league. Consequences for failure to report can include forfeiting draft choices. Hiding an injury for Jay Cutler is not worth a draft choice.
I’m with Mike E
Dislocated broadcast booth
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I’m going to bed… I have a headache. ‘Night!
150 days, 18 hours, 42 minutes, and 38 seconds until the 2018 NFL DRAFT!!!
Right now we have lost 5 in a row. That’s the 3rd longest such streak in the NFL. The only 2 teams with a longer streak, Cleveland and DENVER. IMO, I think the Dolphins will win next week against the Broncos. After that though, we may not win another game. …5-11 is very possible.
You are all welcome to come and lay down on my therapeutic davenport of love…..sounds like y’all need it.
The key stat for a QB is TDs. Anybody who can get us about 10 more of those a year is fine with me.
Lol.
Wrong reply. Lol
Once again I think we’re going to hear/see many say “the Dolphins are going to need to kill it in the draft next year”.
Really, when you think about it, the only injury that we had that would have made a difference is Tannehill. We had 4/5 of our o line going into the season from last year and, yeah, we didn’t have a starting LG but not being able to plug in one guy on the offensive line and still be somewhat stable shows an inability on the part of the coaching staff to get it done.
losing brandon albert made a difference
It wasn’t just Tannehill. We lost our starting LG Larsen for half the season. We lost our starting starting MLB. We lost a starting CB Lippett. All before we took one regular season snap.
Look at Minnesota stats, at 9-2 they run the ball against Detroit 33 times with 30 pass plays and they won, it’s a balanced offense whereas Miami ran the ball 17 times and passed 34 times, New England passed 28 times and ran 28 times.
This is what disturbs me, we are not going in the right direction, we have an unbalanced pass happy philosophy,our Ol is pass protection oriented, run blocking is way down the list of concerns.
this philosophy can’t win in the NFL.
Adam Gase is to blame for this debacle, how does a guy get to be a head coach who doesn’t know the fundamentals of football is beyond me??
We were trying to run but 2 things happened yesterday that changed our ability to remain balanced. One is that we got into a fairly significant deficit which forces teams to throw more. Secondly all our RBs got injured. All thought in the first half we really were trying to remain balanced
We never run the ball in any games regardless. Since Ajayi left we haven’t ran the ball, The last game Ajayi played for us we ran the ball 13 times, the reason we fell behind is because we don’t run the ball.
It is a well known fact that if you don’t have a balanced offense you can not win in the NFL. so why do we pass all the time when we know that’s a losing recipe?
I’d rather run and lose, at the very least we would be starting back on the right track
passing all the time is fools gold
if i’m running this team, i try to get run blockers in FA, the draft, i do what i have to do to get Barkley, after that i finish securing the OL, I look around the NFL and i try to cherry pick an offensive line coach from a running team, I focus my attention all summer long on Running the Ball!
next year I make sure i run the ball, even if it doesn’t work i run the ball, I have to have a successful running attack to win in the NFL so that’s my priority, i’d rather lose running the ball than lose passing as we are now.
The reason we suck at running the ball is because we don’t do it.
Maybe Thomas has stepped up a little but if i am Miami i keep Albert and fore-go Thomas.
Brandon Albert was much more valuable to this team than Thomas ever will be, and i also let Philly keep their 4th round pick. stupid moves results in Losses!
if it aint broke dont fix it!
4-3 with Ajayi 0-4 without.
Any Questions??????
Yeah, why aren’t ya looking at the fact that the QB and OL have also been makeshift in that 0-4. Our running game has actually improved. You guys have to get over Ajayi, what good does continuing to call at that move as something that killed our season when we were shitty before we just eeked out a few come back wins, which it wasn’t ajayi bringing us back anyways.
The good that comes from it is realizing the guy that is still here that made that move is still calling the shots. and that’s the scary part
our last win against the Jets we ran the ball 25 times
Albert is so good he has been a FA all year, no one us bringing him in with several teams in need of OL help, including us which would be an easy move for us to make to bring him back. The Tunsil transition hasn’t been as smooth as we wanted but Albert isn’t adding any wins to this season.
Our issues have been at the interior positions of our OL, for the most part. Specifically LG has been so weak I think it has affected Tunsil and Pouncey. Both those have to supplement the LG if the person there is struggling and I have seen Tunsil and Pouncey both miss their guy because there were helping Steen at first, Davis a lot (Pouncey missed a blitz that wound up being a sack because he was helping Davis at RG this last game) but we are down out starting RT, starting RG, starting LG, so we are struggling for good reason
we had a great running game with Albert at LT and Tunsil at LG with Ajayi running the ball, I can only guess and or assume that Albert made the difference since he’s no longer here, one of the reasons we may not have looked to sign him is that we are BROKE!
I agree with you about having balance to your offense, but I do think you are neglecting a lot of other factors that are at play here
I think you’re neglecting the fact that we are losing, and why are we losing? because we can’t run the ball, how do we fix that? by running the ball!
How can you put any emphasis on the loss of a rookie LB who never took a snap? Same thing goes for Larsen. He was penciled in there but, again, never took a snap.
We are in the nickel 33% of the time anyway so mcmiilan wasn’t that great of a loss
this team is not focused on Running the ball, they feel they can pass their way to victory, you can tell by last seasons move to re-up stills, their acquisition of Thomas/Cutler. Gases Priority is to pass the ball, it’s quite evident, It’s his philosophy. what has he done last off season to get better at the run game? we all know what he did to get worse at it!
His philosophy is a proven losing strategy
if we had Albert we could move tunsil back to guard with pouncy at center bushrod at the other guard spot and for at least half the year we would have had James, that OL is better than any we fielded this year, would you rather have that OL or Thomas the TE??
I hope we lose, nothing to gain at this point to win, not even the fact that losing improves our draft status but losing puts Gases job in jeopardy. I just hope they fire Gase at the end of the season, That’s the best thing that could happen to this team
D says:
November 27, 2017 at 8:26 am
Yeah, why aren’t ya looking at the fact that the QB and OL have also been makeshift in that 0-4. Our running game has actually improved
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Our running game has not improved, it is in the toilet, we are running the ball 15 times a game passing 35 times, we’ve lost every game like this, the only time we have won and we are undefeated this year is when we rushed over 25 times.
ocalarob says:
November 27, 2017 at 9:06 am
…I just hope they fire Gase at the end of the season, That’s the best thing that could happen to this team
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Woah, Bro! That’s not the answer, buddy. I fault Gase for a LOT this year, but he’s young and still learning. He gets no less than 3 to 4 years here and he’s deserved it after last year’s playoff run. All we need to do is fix the O-Line and get a grinding RB… I’m sure Gase has learned his lesson this year.
I’d be more focused on replacing Tannenbaum, but that’s just me. As you wisely noted, WE’RE BROKE!
I’d give him a pass this year also however he needs to change his philosophy, and that’s what i’m scared of, if he keeps approaching the games like he has been we are in for a long 3 or 4 years
Rob
Brandon Albert??? Is he playing this year? Was he physically and mentally able to play this year?
Answer is NO, or he’d be playing somewhere for sure.
We lose because we lost Ajayi and Albert – OK, gotcha. Also, attributing a teams W-L record to a RB is silly. It’s a team game.
I attribute our win loss record to the lack of a running game. we had 1200 yards worth of one last year with Albert and Ajayi, one can only assume that losing could have something to do with them not being here?
Albert is not playing because he didn’t want to play for Jax he turned in his papers and tried to come back but Jax wouldn’t let him. Jax owns his rights.
and i don’t care what their names are run the ball. if that’s silly i’ll take silly over losing any day!
I have never been the kind of fan that cheers for “suck for _____(fill in draft pick)”…
… however, when we lose our starting QB it’s as good a time as any to get a star player and right the ship for next year.
We can realistically get the 4th pick this year AND Dion Jordan is NOT in this draft LOL.
So I read an article a while back where the author tries to get creative on making TRADES that could change the direction of a team….
For Fins he argued that we should try to trade Tanny and draft pick(s) for Luck. Now even though he was out with an injury it might bring the price down AND we have seen historically that fear of a shoulder injury cost us a chance at a future HOF QB (Brees).
I thought this was a fun thing to think about as someone like Luck (healthy) could make every throw needed in this offense. That’s it for conjecture for me on this post-mortem Monday. back to work.
MF-13, we won last year because we had a running game, Gase was quoted telling his coaches “don’t let me get away from running the ball with Ajayi”
That statement scares me as that is exactly what he did and now look at us!
so what’s in store for the future? the samething??
at least we’ll have a good time at the draft the next couple of years with all these early picks
Suckon for Saquon
professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
November 27, 2017 at 8:47 am (Edit)
How can you put any emphasis on the loss of a rookie LB who never took a snap? Same thing goes for Larsen. He was penciled in there but, again, never took a snap.
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Because they were the starters during training camp and pre season. How good they would have been who knows but at the time they went down we had no realistic ability to replace them with a starting caliber level of talent because FA was done and the draft had already occurred. In essence we began the year with 2nd string talent at multiple positions
Who were our LB’s to start the season? Who played for us last year?
Mike E. says:
November 27, 2017 at 9:58 am
Rob
attributing a teams W-L record to a RB is silly. It’s a team game.
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So mike, when we run the ball 25 times a game we are 4-0 this year, and when we run the ball 17 times or less we are 0-7. according to your “team game” post above i would assume you think that’s just a coincidence, is that correct?
What happens if they run it 20 times?
That’s being way too simplistic. Each game is brings totally different circumstances. What if both teams run 25 times?
ER we haven’t ran 20 times this year, it’s either feast or famine
It’s not that simple, the reason we don’t run is because we make no yards doing it, we go away from the run and pass to advance the ball, we continually do this and we have a track record of this, it makes us one dimensional, Opposing Ds do their best to take away the pass, DE’s are pinning their ears back, Lbers are playing deeper, we are 3 and out or worse a turn over putting our D in a bad position. it takes a lot of effort to play D, much more than Offense. Our D always has their backs against the wall.
Not having a balanced attack and not being able to run the ball has a domino effect on the whole team IMO.
Interesting….
Sam Young didn’t allow 1 of the 7 sacks yesterday…..
Not that I didn’t expect a loss yesterday, but I am done watching this team in 2017. I will still be a cashual follower and still come here to read about you guys losing your minds, but I am not investing any more emotional equity into this team. Only 5 more weeks to go. SMH wait all off season for this? 5 more losses and a top 10 pick that T-bumb will fuck up coming up.
I was done a few weeks ago.
what did the Pats do yesterday? they passed 25 times and ran 25 times, how do D’s game plan for that?
Belichick vs Gase was like Lebron James vs Pee Wee Herman in one on one.
Belichick makes most teams look bad. They are 9-2
Packers will have Aaron Rodgers back, Texans will have JJ Watt and Whitney Mercilus back, Colts will have Andrew Luck back, and the Broncos will probably have a better QB.
I don’t want to suck for any particular player
But it might not be a bad idea to start Fales and see what we have
Fales is 27, he’s not a mystery. He’s not a starter
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one of the reasons we may not have looked to sign him is that we are BROKE!
Everything is different now. We have Suh………(at $26 MILLION next year)
I just hope they fire Gase at the end of the season, That’s the best thing that could happen to this team
It would only be best if his replacement is successful. If not, then it is just a turn over again, and a 3 year reset AGAIN. Different philosophies, different scheme, and different player makeup. We reset every three year anyway, that is why we have sucked for 15 years. What’s one more reset?
I highly doubt gase gets fired this year. They’ll give him at least another year with tanny at QB imo.
naplesfan2010 says:
November 26, 2017 at 7:08 pm
Case in point
****Let the Ajayi thing go. That’s not why we’re losing. Seriously?****
If you disagree that us trading Ajayi has a big effect on our season, then say so and offer your evidence. That would be fine. It’s debatable.
But to tell MF13 to stop posting about us trading away our 200-yd per game starting RB in the middle of a season for a middling draft pick is unnecessarily unreasonable. Some of us have hurt feelings about that trade as that was our favorite guy on the team. Maybe you even want us to stop bringing it up because it hurts you to think about it, too. And who are you to tell us what to post?
Also, “Seriously?” is a known mocking and sarcastic expression, as if to say that us posting about a Pro-Bowl RB we lost shows us to be stupid. Like we are not “seriously” expert, because we don’t agree with your opinion.
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Naples that’s not insulting anyone. It’s a general statement and opinion that it’s not the reason we’re losing. Meaning you guys don’t see other stuff going on that’s hurting this team? It’s not personal.
http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/video/jay-ajayi-unhappy-shut-and-tote-ball
He’s into numbers and wants big numbers so he can claim to be one of the best if not the best back in the league. That’s fine as a competitor but it’s about team and winning games, not personal accolades and that’s why he’s not in Miami anymore.
I think he may have been reacting to the 2 uncomfortable questions
1, Whether the offense is more diverse than what he was running in Miami (“Hey Jay why not bad mouth your old team)
2. Why were you caught from behind.
These reporters are speculating on what that means – which is their job, but let’s not make a mountain out of a molehill Philadephia
Lets just cool it on the Ajayi bashing
I didn’t see anything in that interview that was even close to him demanding the ball more. That’s a huge leap of faith to assume
But to tell MF13 to stop posting about us trading away our 200-yd per game starting RB in the middle of a season for a middling draft pick is unnecessarily unreasonable.
Just to be clear here. Ajayi was not a 200-yd PER GAME RB. he ran for 200 yds in three games. The remainder of the games he averaged 45.5 yards per game at 3.79 yards per carry average. ALL his stats were inflated by over 600 yards in three games. He did something special in three games. the rest of the year he only ran for 100 yards or more once.
Right and my comments didn’t mean you’re not allowed to be bummed out about the trade. I was too, but when watching the games if you think that’s why we’re losing, I’m just trying to shed some light that our issues are deeper than that. This team is broken in a lot of areas. Nothing has gone smoothly since the offseason and it’s getting worse, not better.
That’s also not a personal attack on anyone’s character.
When Ajayi ran for 200 yards on 3 occasions the threat for the rest of the games was obvious and that benefits the rest of the offense whether he had 200 yards or not
Lets not pretend he didn’t bring significant value to our offense and isn’t bringing it to the Eagles now
17 rushes 58 yards, 3.4 per 0 TD
17 rushes 82 yards 4.8 per 0 TD
16 rushes 101yards 6.3 per 1 TD
16 rushes 83 yards 5.2 per 0 TD
13 rushes 23 yards 1.8 per 0 TD
23 rushes 51 yards 2.2 per 0 TD
26 rushes 130 yards 5.0 per 0 TD
25 carries 77 yards 3.1 per 0 TD
12 carries 46 yards 3.8 per 0 TD
11 carries 16 yards 1.5 per 0 TD
28 carries 122 yards 4.4 per 0 TD
So which are Ajayi’s…. Ajayi had the benefit of a mostly healthy OL, he got more chances to make something happen and his YPC was in most games worse than any of the games using Williams and Drake.
The stats you are using to support your claims dont even support what you assert they do, and the fact he didnt get as many carries in certain games could just as easily show you that Ajayi was off script and it the running game wasnt working, when Gase abandoned it, as much as it shows anything else.
Ajayi was a player i liked as well, but im not going to make excuses for him just because of it.
The only way a team can tank a season is to sit their best players and ensure losses with a “really” bad lineup. You can’t ask guys to play half ass because that can lead to injuries. Players are competitors and you don’t want them having a give up mentality.
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after last week’s loss – “The players have quit on Gase, it’s disgusting”
after yesterday’s loss – “The team should quit to get a better draft spot”
lol
Wow what is happening with the Chiefs? They started off 5-0 looking like the best team and they are now 6-5.
If we end up picking in the top 5, I am working a trade with Browns to move down to #7 and their 1st pick in round 3.
Yeah….let’s fire Gase and keep following Cleveland’s model for success. That’s the ticket!
I wouldn’t worry about it. Don’t think that will happen. For all we know the team knows we’re not where we want to be personnel wise and 2018 is the focus but you can’t tell the players, media and fans that.
Yep. People think Gase can come out and say we are gonna stink and our players suck? Lol.
It’s always going to be same ol…..we are happy with what we have, we can win games, blah blah blah. Nobody here knows what the thought really is. Only thing you’ll hear from him is the blatant mistakes being made.
The Big O said today on WQAM that the early fake punt from deep on their side was like a big guy in a bar walking up to a smaller one, slapping him in the face out of the blue and asking “What are you gonna do about it?”
Wish could claim the analogy was not a good one.
Early in the game 0-0 the Pats knew they could overcome that if it didn’t work out.
I wish it had blown up in is asshole face. Who fakes a punt from your own 27 for “no reason”. No reason because it was the fist quarter of a scoreless game. Total fuck wad move. I hope he dies of venereal disease, and soon.
preferably by massive blood loss due to venereal lice (Crabs)
LOL
Piggy, I’m thinking that Ajayi may have already started with the bitching about touches. Just 20 rushes and 2 receptions in 3 games in Philly. I’m not bashing him but that was part of the problem he had in Miami and he got the ball much more than that per game.
I’m not buying that Tim
I’m not willing to go down this – “lets make Ajayi the Dolphins 2017 pariah” path just because I’m a fan of this team. If he directly says it – that’s another story.
The offense is still sputtering without him. I don;t think Ajayi’s attitude was the cause of any of our woes. I just suspect Gase had enough of his attitude – but not all teams would have handled it like this. IMO it made us a little worse and we were already pretty bad.
We struggled with him with the exception of two games. Our issues are not because of him IMO. There is so much other shit going on. Mistakes, penalties, turnovers at bad times like taking points off the board. We hurt ourselves just as much as the opponent does. Hard to win like that.
Tim your facts are wrong, in the 4 wins Ajayi was getting the ball 23+ times per game, in the 3 losses Ajayi was getting the ball less than 15 times a game.
Could it be that Ajayi was upset about the fact that he wasn’t getting the ball enough after a loss, and that the loss itself made him angry and not the amount of touches.
Could it be that he was more of a team player than others have made him out to be?
And it just gets worse.
Piggy
As you mentioned, that’s the Philly media. Just showing that all is not rosy and perfect with the guy, and it wasn’t just Gase or Miami. It’s not a big deal either way, just that some people here think us trading Ajayi triggered the apocalypse. lol
Fake punts are supposed to be unexpected and surprise the other team. Um……that’s a good time to try obviously. Lol
Haven’t we thrown at least 3 INTs in the endzone this year?
Let’s Go Lice!!
I can tell you why Ajayi wasn’t getting along with Gase, it’s no secret, he didn’t get the touches in the 3 losses we suffered, he only got 13 touches in the Baltimore drubbing.
I happen to agree with Ajayi, So let’s show a video where some moron reporter stirs up some fake news about Ajayi and run right along with it. LOL
Gase is the problem not Ajayi
How can Ajayi be the problem? He’s not on the team. So quick to write off a 2nd year coach. Were you calling for his firing last year?
Same here in GB…..let’s fire the coach cause the starting QB is hurt and it’s tough to win with a back up……..
I’m calling for his head due to his Game Plan, he passes 35 times a game and runs 15 times, win or lose at least have a solid game plan which he doesn’t.
we had the same with Philbin and Lazor, too pass happy. you have to run the ball to win in the NFL, it’s very obvious this coach doesn’t understand that.
It’s impossible for any of us to know whether or not the Ajayi trade was really necessary because we really don’t know what was going down. I think there are reasons to question both sides of the situation. Personally I think it was a bad trade because of the compensation we got for a pro bowl player.
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Regardless, all that really matters is that Gase felt it was necessary. What we don’t know….and can’t know…is Gase’s true motivation to make the move. You can believe what he and the team have said, or you can question their sincerity. My guess is the actual truth is, as usual, somewhere in the middle. I think the team has spun it to make the fan base feel okay with it, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t some truth to their reasoning.
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Just as losing Tannehill for the season was a blow but not a significant one because he’s not an irreplaceable player, you can say the same about Ajayi. For me, it’s been about a dozen different reasons that have come together to create this crap fest and not just one thing or player.
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Also, I think lamenting our offensive philosophy is different than questioning the Ajayi trade. Many of us have criticized this team for not running enough for many years. There’s nothing new there, and I do think it is a legitimate question.
Randy, I think it’s reasonable to assume that Ajayi wasn’t happy with the amount of carries he was getting and the results from that action. Losing Sucks!
See the ****
WIN 1. S.D. Ajayi 28 carries rushed for 122 yards.W
*****LOSS 2. the Jets ajayi ran 11 times for 16 yards
*****LOSS 3. new orleans ajayi ran 12 times for 46 yards
WIN 4. titans Ajayi ran 25 times for 77 yards W
WIN 5. Atl Ajayi ran 26 times for 130 yards
WIN 6. NYJ Ajayi ran 23 times for 51 yards
*****LOSS 7. Balt Ajayi ran 13 times for 23 yards
We couldn’t run in some of those games and the numbers you put up show that. Take away one decent run and in a lot of those games we’re not even getting 3 YPC.
The Titans and Falcons wins were because of the defense. We scored 9 points on offense in the Titans game, and the defense shut out the Falcons in the 2nd half so we were able to maintain a balanced attack. You have to look at how the game went down, not just rushes = wins.
I can go back to last year, the same results will show, if the D has to worry about ajayi that opens up other areas, the Stat doesn’t lie, it’s been consistent.
Tim take a look at the teams that are on top of their division they all have one thing in common, a balanced attack.
Rob, it’s hard to keep running the ball when you’re down by two or more scores and the opponent’s lead keeps getting bigger. That has happened to us pretty much all season because we get off to such poor starts and we’re always playing catchup. Gase showed he was willing to run it when it was working and we were still in the game. The problem I’ve had with this team is when we have to run we can’t. We break a few nice runs here and there but the minimal gains or loss of yardage happen too often and that happened to Ajayi as well. The main problem is up front from what I see.
I get that, we were never going to go undefeated, i can tell you a couple of games we lost that we would have won with Ajayi, Raiders/Tampa bay?? maybe even carolina,
with Ajayi we were at least contenders. if we win 2 out of 3 of those games we are sitting at 6-5 instead of 4-7
the fact is you have to be able to pick up the tough yards to have a chance, so why did he trade Ajayi without a suitable back-up?
It doesn’t matter that we dumped Ajayi, what matters is the coach did that without a replacement for him, Running should be a priority to him and from what i’ve seen it is not
How did Ajayi have the year he did last year without Gase being committed to the run? When it’s working and we’re in the game he will run it. The problem is we struggle to consistently run it well. Then when you get down by two scores or more and there is only so much time left in the game you have to open it up. You don’t want to run yourself out of any chance to win the game just so you can say we stuck with the running game.
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November 27, 2017 at 4:13 pm
17 rushes 58 yards, 3.4 per 0 TD
17 rushes 82 yards 4.8 per 0 TD
16 rushes 101yards 6.3 per 1 TD
16 rushes 83 yards 5.2 per 0 TD
13 rushes 23 yards 1.8 per 0 TD
23 rushes 51 yards 2.2 per 0 TD
26 rushes 130 yards 5.0 per 0 TD
25 carries 77 yards 3.1 per 0 TD
12 carries 46 yards 3.8 per 0 TD
11 carries 16 yards 1.5 per 0 TD
28 carries 122 yards 4.4 per 0 TD
So which are Ajayi’s…. Ajayi had the benefit of a mostly healthy OL, he got more chances to make something happen and his YPC was in most games worse than any of the games using Williams and Drake.
The stats you are using to support your claims dont even support what you assert they do, and the fact he didnt get as many carries in certain games could just as easily show you that Ajayi was off script and it the running game wasnt working, when Gase abandoned it, as much as it shows anything else.
Ajayi was a player i liked as well, but im not going to make excuses for him just because of it.
These are his stats this year, not sure what your looking at? who were they against? was it a win or loss?
the stats below show exactly what i’m saying, when he runs the ball more than 23 times we win, when he runs less than 15 times we lose simple as that
WIN 1. S.D. Ajayi 28 carries rushed for 122 yards.W
*****LOSS 2. the Jets ajayi ran 11 times for 16 yards
*****LOSS 3. new orleans ajayi ran 12 times for 46 yards
WIN 4. titans Ajayi ran 25 times for 77 yards W
WIN 5. Atl Ajayi ran 26 times for 130 yards
WIN 6. NYJ Ajayi ran 23 times for 51 yards
*****LOSS 7. Balt Ajayi ran 13 times for 23 yards
Rob, I’ll never disagree with you or anyone about a balanced attack. The problem is we don’t have much of any kind of attack in most games. We get stuffed on a lot of runs and pressured quite a bit on passes. We’re a bad offense and we were with Ajayi. It’s been a shit season.
we went 4-3 with Ajayi 0-4 without, i don’t know about you but i’ll take the “WITH”!
So…..in 1 year Gase has totally changed his offense and philosophy and now should be fired?
How about….shit happens……can’t run what you want when players don’t execute consistently
That’s why I keep saying this team is broken because they look like it. It sucks for all of us.
I agree ER – It just didn’t work out the way he wanted it to this year. If you want a great example of that, look at KC. Do you think all of a sudden Andy Reid decided he doesn’t want Kareem Hunt to run the ball? No way, but the team isn’t executing well enough to allow them to run because they aren’t moving the ball, so Kareem Hunt’s carries have been limited. Change in philosophy after having so much success? Nope! Kareem Hunt is still there, but they can’t run, and if Ajayi was here, we wouldn’t be able to run any better than we are with Drake and Williams.
In the first 5 games, Hunt had 5 rushing TD’s, and since then he has ZERO.
It’s crazy how quickly a team can have a change of fortunes.
Alex Smith was a legit MVP candidate during that 5 game stretch, but the run game disappearing has made him much less effective. He had 15 TD’s the first 8 games, and only 3 since then. He had ZERO INT’s in the first 8 games, now he has 4, so 3 TD’s and 4 INT’s since game 8.
Did they take hits on their OL? They still have good skill players.
I don’t think so, just one OL is injured. They just aren’t opening the same holes. Hunt was getting these huge 30+ yard runs early in the season, I think opposing defense just adjusted and took it away.
This is about what we spoke about earlier on the Philadelphia media and Ajayi
he called them “clowns”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-ajayi-calls-out-media-with-savage-tweet/ar-BBFOA6u?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
As we know, the media likes to skew things, but on the other hand, tigers don’t change their stripes, so Ajayi probably is pissed he’s not getting more touches. Let’s be honest, if he wasn’t happy about it here, he won’t be any happier about it there.
I don’t know I think those guys were complete clowns in their speculation. He came nowhere near saying anything like that. They pulled that out of their ass
Just my opinion, but I hope we tank and get a top five pick. Rebuild the lines top priority. Stay out of FA unless it’s value or short term deals. Let our FAs walk unless they take a friendly deal and collect some compensatory picks. Draft a QB when there’s value to be had and let him learn/compete with Tannehill. Keep Gase around, get a new defensive scheme, and take a long term approach. The patsies have another couple years before we can take over. Build with that approach and we are good. I don’t mind watching a young team with potential take their lumps the next couple years as long as the future is trending up.
If we were top 5 or top 10, I hope we trade down and try to stock up on picks between 25 – 75
If we are drafting OL, RB and TE – that’s usually the sweet spot for solid players at those positions
Agreed. Trade down with a QB starved team and stockpile some picks
I can’t wait to trade down and get another Dion Jordan!
Lol – I promise not to buy that jersey
Btw – we traded up for Jordan
We traded down for Odrick and Misi in ’10
I get confused on trading up or down, going from number 10 down to #3 i call trading down
That’s is trading up
The up v down represents your draft position , not your trade partners
Odrick was okay for us, but don’t mention that to M13 bc we passed on Earl Thomas to make that trade and I think he is still furious about it 8 years later
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ElephantRider says:
November 27, 2017 at 4:50 pm
So…..in 1 year Gase has totally changed his offense and philosophy and now should be fired?
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Gase should have prepared himself to run the ball effectively during last off season, all he had was Ajayi, no back up plan and he dumped his only bread and butter RB.
so you tell me, was this a smart move by a guy who’s getting paid millions?
what do you mean we have no running game??
There’s another word for it, it’s called
Incompetence.
I just wonder who’s fault is it that we can’t run? I know Gase has publicly pointed fingers elsewhere, so who’s fault do you think it really is? is it our RB’s? is it our OL?
Or is it the Head Coach who had all of last year to solidify a running attack?
I just wonder???
I think first and foremost it’s the OL
I blame Gase and Tannebaum a little for some of the reasons you mentioned
But I think it’s the OL
And in let I think it’s the QBs who don’t throw deep in ’17
drg, I don’t think we will need to purposely tank to pick in the top 5 unfortunately. We should probably finish 5-11 or 6-10 at least leaving us in the top 10 at a minimum. There is going to be a log jam from 6-10 to 8-8 when it comes to draft order IMO. I just hope we aren’t tied with a bunch of teams and end up rotating order each round like what happened a couple years ago. I could never figure out where we were going to pick. LOL
I tend to agree
We can just play as we have and struggle to win 2-3 more
And I also think you are really going to see tiebreakers make huge differences in the draft
I don’t love the talent in this draft anyway
Not sure the difference between 5 and 15 is really that great
But in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of we get the benefit of the tiebreakers then – I’ll be happy
suckon for saquaon
I posted this a while ago but Gase needs to hire a real OC, hand over his playbook and let the OC call the plays and concentrate on being an HC.
I think maybe hiring an OC and a new DC would be ideal
Vance Joseph might get fired…lol
Exactly, we need a run oriented OC
The Flying Pig says:
November 27, 2017 at 6:39 pm
That’s is trading up
The up v down represents your draft position , not your trade partners
Odrick was okay for us, but don’t mention that to M13 bc we passed on Earl Thomas to make that trade and I think he is still furious about it 8 years later
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I think you’re wrong Piggy, I was begging MF-13 to take Thomas he said no we’d be much better off with Odd-rick???
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November 27, 2017 at 6:39 pm
…Odrick was okay for us, but don’t mention that to M13 bc we passed on Earl Thomas to make that trade and I think he is still furious about it 8 years later
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Rob – I used to always get confused about trading up and down, and what it meant. I think the easiest way to remember is a baseball lineup. #1, or your leadoff hitter is at the top of the lineup, and the draft is the same, #1 is the top, so if you trade your #12 to get to #3, you trade up.
OK, I’ll try to remember that
oddrick use to not bathe days before a game so he smelt horrendous and the opposing Ol would not want to get near him
YUP! I remember reading that about him too. YUCK!
LMAO! That’s funny
I guess it didn’t really work
This explains why Odrick stunk
We found out that football wasn’t his passion. It was a way for him to earn a lot of money. Can’t blame him for that. I thought he was going to better than he was as a prospect before we drafted him. He was solid at best.
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BBM,
Agreed that 5-6 wins is likely. Best way to tank is starting a rookie QB. We have the next best thing with Cutler, so put him in! Nobody is surviving long behind our trash OL. The defense has pretty much quit on the season too.
The defense is wearing down like some of us were saying would happen if the offense continued to not compete and stay in the game. They’re out there by themselves having to play perfect and they’re not that good. I think we’re a solid defense, but not one to carry a team.
Clyde Christensen is a real OC. Gase just prefers to call the plays like many offensive minded HCs do. Christensen runs the offense in practice and is involved with the game plan. What happens when you’re having a bad season is everyone gets questioned. It happens. I do think we can rebound from it in 2018 with some changes on offense. That is the area that has really let this team down. Sometimes you have to win 38-35 type games but we struggle to get to 20. Can’t win in a league that promotes offense, playing like that.
Whoever we move on from and add on offense with personnel, the coaches have to do a better job too.
What I find disconcerting on offense is Parker seems to struggle to stay healthy and disappears. He’s playing hurt and reporters have said he still limps around at practice. You don’t see the speed and he looked like he couldn’t jump on the pick in the endzone. The fact that we still played him and no sign of Carroo or Grant at WR shows you where those guys are at. I think they’re headed out the door. So we need help on the OL, TE, WR and RB along with some questions at QB. We’re going to see some significant changes here.
Pig,
I DIG your thought on trading back from say, R1P5, and accumulating more picks. BUT… it’s been a while since we’ve had a shot at an ELITE prospect (top-5 pick)… and Dion Jordan doesn’t, doesn’t count (because of Ireland)! LOL
I think it’ll be most interesting to see if we do trade back. I’m certainly not against it, AT THE MOMENT. But post-Combine, there might be a prospect we just can’t pass up. We’ll see!
Tim, I understand Chiritensen is a real OC but dosen’t he have one foot in the retirement door? Maybe I am mistaken, if so, Gase needs to let him call the plays since he runs them in practice. I’m just saying Gase needs to concentrate more on being an HC thats all. I agree with what you said above.
Play-calling always gets criticized when very little works. We have a lot of execution issues and I think it’s coaching and personnel who may not be a fit for what the HC is looking for. Some talent that you acquire doesn’t pan out and some does. So you keep retooling until it’s at least close to what you want. We might be finding out some of our guys can’t grasp the offense. Then Gase and Co. waters it down and it’s so basic that it’s easy to defend.
We need some new personnel, more discipline from coaching and less of a M*A*S*H* unit. It’s been a really tough season to say the least.
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl
Interesting site to check that updates the 2018 draft order regularly.
Right now we are #8, but will be #9 if the Ravens beat the Texans tonight. Our bigger problem is the clump of bad teams (as Pig pointed out) and that we have one of the current strongest strength of schedules amongst all the draft competitors except for Tampa. If we were 5-6, we’d be in the #17 spot right now.
I figured there would be a log jam in the middle
We are cooked
M13, if we were picking 4th or 5th, I would try to strike a deal with CLE for their 7th and fist pick in the 3rd (#65?). Maybe get more if there are 2 players they really want in the top 5. Don’t they have like 100 picks this year? We all have seen proof they make stupid decisions. Why not take advantage of it, LOL.
That would work for me! And yes… I could see that happening. When ya have the ammo that Cleveland has, they can easily afford to move up for a player they LOVE. WIN-WIN.
Don’t try to trade with Cleveland. They will forget to report it the league office and we will all be screwed
It’s been proven that it doesn’t matter where you pick in each round, it’s selecting a player who makes your team better. Only a handful of special talent drafted early pans out. Many become average or not very good. Then you see players in other rounds balling for some teams. All drafting real early does is give you more options. Then you can get killed for taking a prospect earlier than the mock world had them projected until you prove you were right. LOL
If it were that easy then every team would be great.
I didn’t say it was easy but we see it all the time. It was more about draft position vs. quality prospects. Sometimes 1-10 isn’t really better than 11-20.
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Who would be your core on offense and defense heading into 2018 based on what you’ve seen?
I have mine to some degree but I want to see what others say before I put mine out there.
I will tell you who I think won’t be with us. I think Suh will be gone. I like hi but his performance as good as he is does not justify his salary. I also think Pouncey will be gone. Probably he retires. Bushrod may retire as well.
I don’t think Suh will be gone. Our depth at DT is dirt cheap and they have held their own and could have upside.
Suh’s contract is a monster next year. Lose that contract and you can resign Landry and James. Landry has a much bigger impact on this team than Suh does imo.
MF-13; Saw your reference to Barry Jackson’s expanded list of off season needs for the Dolphins.–Did that list include replacing two proven failures in T-Baum and Grier??? –ALL those defensive picks and our DEFENSE IS AS BAD OR WORSE than it was last year! And key defenders are now a year older!! Yes, our O-Line and our running backs situations have also gotten worse. In fact, our overall offensive numbers are, in a word, “offensive,” too. We need a complete overhaul of our roster. NOT saying we need TO REPLACE EVERYBODY!! But, clearly, we have little to show, win-wise, for all the moves made over the last several years. And it all begins in our player acquisition department. WAY too many misses. Not enough hits. Time for Ross to upgrade this part of the organization PRONTO!!!
PLEEZE,PLEEZE tell me that wasn’t Ireland, Parcells and Metamucil Carl Peterson just walking through the front door at the Dolphins’ headquarters in Davie!!!
Suh is due to make roughly what Tannehill will make next year. Suh is elite and one of the very best at his position. Tannehill is a middle of the pack QB that has done nothing to dustbguish himself. So as I have said many times: “value” is relative. And before you all get your frilly panties in a bunch, i’m not bashing Tannehill…just using him to make a distinction….well, maybe just a little minor bash. Is either player worth $17M/year? Hell no, but I would say Suh earns his more than Tannehill does.
Tannehill touches the ball every play. Suh gets a hand full of tackles a game. There is a reason why QBs are paid more
Why isn’t Vontae Davis back here?
Tim:
Offense: Landry and Tunsil and who knows beyond that
Defense: pretty much the same with the hopeful addition of another nice DE
Be a faker for Baker!
SON: You may be 100% right on Baker. And he sure as hell DOES raise the playing level of those around him. I expect Baker will be gone by the 4th or 5th pick, if not “SOONER!”–So continuing this losing streak is VERY IMPORTANT!!
I could go through the history but suffice it to say I have a pretty damn good track record on QB’s.
I’d take YOU on QB’s over T-Baum ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!
Ken,
Of course, hence the reason i’ve maintained that QBs are more responsible for success or failure over the years, but all I ever hear is it’s not about one player but about the team. If you’re going with the assumption that QBs deserve to be paid more because they influence the game more, then they should carry more responsibility and be held to a higher standard.
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Plus, Suh takes a whole lot more physical punishment and has a greater risk of injury than any QB. I would bet he feels he earns his salary just as much as Tannehill does.
Actually QBs are more prone to injury. QBs get hit a greater rate of speed. Most contact on linemen is close in which negates some of the force that QBs WRs and RBs get hit with
Randy:
You always talk about Tannehill and whether or not he raises the level of play around him. I ask the same question about Suh on defense? Have we done anything special on defense since we got Suh? Obviously that’s a rhetorical question. I am also not knocking Suh I like him and agree he is an excellent player. However I cannot see paying that much money to a position doesn’t impact the game as much as other positions
We need a top QB look at the teams that win it isn’t hard to figure out.
Very true but start over at QB and he’s not the answer and you go at least another two years bad. If we can get good on the OL, I think we’d see a lot more big plays from Tannehill. I’m not against drafting a QB either in any round. I’m a BPA guy and even though we’re invested in RT we don’t know how long yet. So having a good prospect behind him is not a bad thing. It’s probably time even though RT had nothing to do with the performance this year.