Wedge Scouting Report: Ian Thomas, Indiana

WEDGE IS SPEAKING TO ANOTHER ALIEN AND PUTTING A HEADSET ON HIM

Come here little Gurker….Wedge is going to make you a genius.  I know everyone says Gurkers are the dumbest aliens in the universe – but not you after I put this smart gear on you!

Gurkelmindcontrol

Oh hey there Dolfans.   What?  Oh this little Gurker…It’s not really a “make you smart” head gear.  It’s more like a brain scrambler.

5 minutes from now, this Gurker won’t know what Galaxy he is in.  This headgear scrambles everything.

 

scramble swtich

I imagine that is the kind of confusion a versatile tight end can cause a defense to experience.  Like Indiana’s Ian Thomas

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THE POSITIVES:  Ian Thomas has the frame and physical stature to play tight end at the NFL level.  At 6’5, 250 pounds, this tight end is going to pose problems in the NFL in the red zone.

Thomas also has pretty good speed.  His 4.74 40 yard dash was 5th among tight ends at the combine.  Add that to his 3rd highest vertical jump and 2nd longest long jump and you get the picture.  Thomas is a pretty good athlete.

Thomas can separate from defenders and fine soft spots in the defense quickly.  Thomas also demonstrates extraordinary body control, good hands and has great strength.  But there is something else about Thomas worth mentioning – he’s a little bit scrappy.

Thomas doesn’t shy away from contact and sometimes appears to look for it.  He uses a stiff arm often and effectively against defenders.

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THE NEGATIVES:  Thomas is really raw.  He’s a bit of a project.  That might prove difficult for the Dolphins since as it stands right now they need a tight end to step in immediately.

His stats are not going to wow you.  He basically played one year at Indiana, his senior year.  Thomas actually transferred from community college in Maryland to Indiana after his sophomore year.

Before his senior year – Thomas had 3 catches.  In his senior year Thomas caught 25 passes including 5 touchdowns.  He was probably a littler underused.

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THE ALIEN DUST:  The difference between Thomas and some of the other day 1 and 2 tight ends is that Thomas really has a chance to develop into a pretty good blocker in addition to receiver.  Thomas might be the most compete tight end prospect.

On a very superficial level, he reminds me of former Dolphin Dion Sims.  But he is nowhere near the blocking Tight End Sims was coming out of Michigan State.  That said, good coaching might help Thomas a really gifted football player.

Expect Thomas to be off the board before the 4th round is through.  The raw talent is too much for NFL to pass on.

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Ian Thomas reminds me of my favorite mind scrambler – scrambling the minds of defenses each week.

 

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You can see his highlights here:

 

 

 

 

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584 Responses to Wedge Scouting Report: Ian Thomas, Indiana

  1. Rockphin says:

    How you doing Rock? Am already counting you to be at the next Fest….you were missed big time.

    Reply

    Been good. I will be at the fest next year as long as something doesn’t come up.

  2. mf13ss says:

  3. Rockphin says:

    D says:
    April 4, 2018 at 3:00 pm
    And look like giant dongs……….

    you think they look giant? hmmmmmm

    I guess I get why…..

  4. Rockphin says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    April 4, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    Gil Brandt

    @Gil_Brandt
    Since 2006 there have been 15 QBs drafted in the top 5. Only 3 have made it to a super bowl. (Wentz, Newton, Ryan)

    2:49 PM – Apr 4, 2018
    140
    95 people are talking about this

    I said this last week with a lot more words and posted stats and was shot down…….

  5. With the number of rb’s in this draft and the number of picks the Browns have they’d be better off taking their qb at #1 and Nelson at #4. They get their qb and an elite offensive lineman who they can have for the next 10+ yrs and one that will help open up holes for the rb they take in the 2nd rd. And, if they’re really worried about rb they can trade back into the 1st and get Guice.

    However, if they’re smart, they’ll realize that a rb is only as good as the o-line they run behind.

  6. D says:

    If you think something as long as a guys arm and about the same girth is not giant then you are in the wrong business sir….

  7. D says:

    Lou that may be a good strategy as well, but the RB’s arent as deep in my opinion as OG’s. This OG draft is pretty stacked out, still Nelson is definitely a big deal different than most the others, but i kind of feel the same about Barkley vs what they could get in the second round.

    • D says:

      I think like Mike said it goes down to their opinion of the QB’s and whether one stands out over the rest. In that case you go QB 1 and 4 is Nelson or Barkley. I wouldn’t put it past the Giants to take Nelson either, they have OL issues as well. They will undoubtedly have options at 4 if they take QB first, but again, if i want to control that option, i take that person 1st, and then i swing back around for the QB, again if, like in my opinion, the QB’s are relatively reflective of one another in ability.

    • well, the thing about the rb’s is that only 2 may go in the first and CLE has the 1st & 3rd in the 2nd rd so they’ll have a pretty good chance at one of the better rb’s remaining.

  8. Tim Knight says:

    Not surprised that we’re releasing Doughty.

    • D says:

      I expected them too, though he did represent the only PS capable QB we had on the roster. So even if we draft a guy, we probably either double up with a very late round guy (like a 7th rounder) or we get a priority UDFA. We did meet with a couple of guys who are like that.

  9. Phins signed a sandwich

  10. Mike E. says:

    Doughty cut? That guarantees we’re moving up for Mayfield. I can’t believe they made it so obvious. 🙂

  11. naplesfan2010 says:

    I just saw a mock in which that happened … all 4 gone like that and we got none of them. And it seemed very plausible.

    Couldn’t complain too much as the guy had us getting Tremaine in the first and DT Hurst in the second, so in that scenario, I’d grab Ian Thomas in the third. Then try to get the best remaining RB in the 4th.

  12. Rockphin says:

    Roubbens?

    well, at least there isn’t an apostrophe in there somewhere….

  13. I’m not getting how Vea is even in the discussion at #11. He’s not even top 15.

  14. Rockphin says:

    This mock does not make me happy at all!

    ;-(

    YOUR PICKS
    1: R1P11 QB SAM DARNOLD USC
    2: R2P10 G BILLY PRICE OHIO STATE
    3: R3P9 TE HAYDEN HURST SOUTH CAROLINA
    4: R4P23 LB DARIUS LEONARD SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
    5: R4P31 RB KALEN BALLAGE ARIZONA STATE
    6: R6P35 FB DIMITRI FLOWERS OKLAHOMA
    7: R7P9 K EDDY PINIERO FLORIDA
    8: R7P11 LB JASON CABINDA PENN STATE

    • Rockphin says:

      well, I like my 6th round and 7th round picks….

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        That would be great but Hurst will be long gone by then, so I would take him in the first and then get a DT in the 3rd or a better RB and a FS in the 4b spot.

  15. naplesfan2010 says:

    We signed an OT or a DT? I could see signing a DT but I don’t think we need another no-name OT who has no chance of the 53.

    • D says:

      Its just getting together some camp bodies.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I wouldn’t worry about whether we need one or not. He might have been a prospect we liked as a UDFA last year but didn’t land him. He could also be viewed as a guard.

  16. D says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:
    April 4, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    We have signed tackle Roubbens Joseph and waived quarterback Brandon Doughty.

    — Miami Dolphins (@MiamiDolphins) April 4, 2018

    Phins signed a sandwich
    —————————————————-
    Roubbens “Big Sammich” Joseph

  17. naplesfan2010 says:

    I never heard of him but he is 6’4 and 314. Sounds more like a DT or an OG.

  18. naplesfan2010 says:

    on The Ravens last year. Did they cut him to sign RG3 or was that just coincidental?

  19. D says:

    I think i may just hav a lot higher opinion of Barkley than some others here. He seems to be almost unreal to me. He is BIG and moves very fast and fluid. I was actually more shocked by his size when measured at the combine than i was his 40 time, etc. I knew he would be at the top of the stack there, but i guess i never realized he was 230ish. I guess i always assumed he was smaller because of how fast he looks on the films. Derrick Henry was deceptively fast for his size, but because of his size he looked like he was barley moving. It was like an optical illusion until you saw the DB’s with a pursuit angle getting left behind by him. With Barkley you can see that speed and fluid acceleration, he cut and accelerates through it so fast. Id have him number 1 on my board with Nelson a close number 2.

  20. ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 4, 2018 at 4:40 pm
    Doughty cut? That guarantees we’re moving up for Mayfield. I can’t believe they made it so obvious.
    _________________________________

    we still have 3 QBs, why would you add a 4th? especially when Gase has history with Fales

    • no matter how you slice it, it’s time to bring in some competition for Tannehill and whether they feel that guy is Rudolph or someone other than one of the top 4 qb’s they need to do it because (1) if Tannehill goes down again and maybe this time for good you want to have something in the pipeline and (2) if it turns out that Gase is wrong about Tannehill it’s better to have someone developing for a year rather than bringing in a rookie next year and be under the gun to choose one.

      We could end up reaching for a guy next year. Of course, it’s also if they have enough conviction that one of the qb’s other than the top 4 could be that guy.

  21. naplesfan2010 says:

    As someone said, neither Fales nor Osweiler qualify for practice squad, so we might be bringing Doughty back or getting a different late-round or UDFA QB to run the scout team.

    Or we keep 3 QBs on the 53 because we are worried that if Tannehill goes down, we need a new starter and a new back-up. Then the 3rd stringer gets scout duty. I think Gase never had any trust in Doughty.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think we’re drafting a QB we feel can develop as a legit NFL QB in more than just the scout QB capacity.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        That fits perfectly into my scenario above. If we are drafting a QB this year, then we just cut one of the 3 we have left and the 3rd stringer still is the scout team guy.

        If we draft a QB, the new QB becomes the back-up until he can take over for Tannehill, and the 3rd QB, which we would still need, becomes the Scout team guy just as I said above. So we’d cut Fales (or Osweiler).

        We’d need 3 because Ryan’s knee will always be a concern from now on.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        as in Lou’s two points above.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Any player who’s had a knee injury I guess will always be a concern and there are many of them in the NFL. Ryan is no different but also not any more of a concern. Brady, Flacco, Palmer, Wentz and Watson have had them too.

  22. Mike E. says:

    Rob – I was joking about Doughty

  23. wyoming85 says:

  24. Mike E. says:

  25. wyoming85 says:

  26. D says:

    D says:
    April 4, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    Its outy for doughty,
    Reply

  27. D says:

    Lou why do you keep saying they need to draft a QB…outside the top 4….if they feel its the right guy….outside the top 4….what if their guy is inside the top 4? Is it more important to get the right person or draft them in the round you think they should be drafted? Once is completely about the team and coaches getting their players and the other smells a lot of personal feelings on the matter.

    • What I meant was if they decide to not trade up to get a qb they covet for whatever reason they still need to draft a qb earlier than the 7th rd to provide some kind of competition for Tannehill and for development into a possible starter.

      • D says:

        Ok then i absolutely agree with you on that

      • D says:

        I dont care what round, trade up or what, as long as they get a guy and get a guy who can actually challenge Tanny. If they guy develops and Tanny actually does turn the corner we make a choice and trade the other, if not then we have a replacement for him. Its a win win scenario.

      • why trade the other? why not keep them both? then it’s really a win win

      • D says:

        I dont mean right off, but there will come a time where we will have to re-sign one or the other and you wouldnt keep two Qb’s paid to be starters.

  28. D says:

    Not a fan of the Mets, but i can get behind almost any team beating the Phillies.

  29. D says:

    Man now i kind of want a Reuben…. or a Cuban ….hmmmm maybe a muffuletta….definitely a big sammich.

  30. D says:

    Leighton Vander Esch reminds me of a poor mans Luke Kuechly.I dont know that he will be there in the second though by the time we pick. I could see him going mid to late first.

  31. mf13ss says:

  32. stangerx says:

    Omar still lives in our world, but when is the last time any of your guys read an article by James Walker? Thinking he has or was moved on.

  33. mf13ss says:

  34. son of a son of a shula says:

    I’ve never heard about any brain tumor with Quinn. As soon as he becomes a Fin he has a freaking brain tumor.

  35. son of a son of a shula says:

    Kilgore probably has an ass full of hemorrhoids too

  36. mf13ss says:

    Son and Tim,

    I have a cousin who got a brain tumor at around age 10. It was operated on and it looked as though everything was alright and ‘dormant’. Well, it returned at around age 25. He was operated on once again, and it appears he’s alright, once again. Only problem now is that he has constant headaches and experiences many spells of double-vision. He sometimes just crawls into a ball and cries his eyes out.

    All I’m trying to say is that even though things seem alright at the moment with Quinn, it can return. I feel terribly for my cousin. 😦

  37. son of a son of a shula says:

    To the best of my recollection the QBs who have been to the Super Bowl in the last approximately 17 years (Gannon) have gone there within the first 5 years of their career.

  38. son of a son of a shula says:

    Early morning, April four
    shot rings high in the Memphis sky
    Free at last, they took your life
    They could not take your pride

    RIP MLK

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      so short a life, just not fair

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        It’s a real shame humanity didn’t have him around for his full life.

    • mf13ss says:

      +100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    • Tim Knight says:

      Earlier tonight I heard an audio of Jimmy Page on “Get the Led Out” with Carol Miller say that when before MLK was assassinated there were so many people with various opinions about his movement but he started to notice more and more black folks going to their shows (Yardbirds), and when he was assassinated that all stopped. Really said.

  39. son of a son of a shula says:

    Darkness can not drive out darkness
    Only light can
    Hate can not drive out hate
    Only love can

  40. mf13ss says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    April 4, 2018 at 9:08 pm
    It’s a real shame humanity didn’t have him around for his full life.
    —————-
    It’s also a real shame that most of the GOOD die before their time… and the list is ASTOUNDING throughout history.

    Happy belated Easter to you, my man, Son.

  41. mf13ss says:

  42. mf13ss says:

    DRAFT HIM!!!

    • mf13ss says:

      VERY good! And that SO applies to what I spoke of, about the GOOD dying before their time. PROPS!!! 🙂

      • Tim Knight says:

        I loved this song the first time I heard it when I was 3 or whatever, really young. It reminds of a very different time that I cherish and have many fond memories.

  43. wyoming85 says:

  44. wyoming85 says:

    • Tim Knight says:

      Please ignore the fuckin ignorant comments in that article. Man, I wish for future generations that this vitriol goes away.

  45. wyoming85 says:

  46. mf13ss says:

    This song was made by my dude 2Pac, back in 1996 before his untimely murder. It’s called, “The Good Die Young”. This video has the lyrics onscreen, for those who can’t understand rap, LOL.

    PROPHETIC…

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      That was cool

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s not prophetic, it’s been happening for a long time and Billy Joel had a song called “Only the Good Die Young” long before this – 1977. I just posted the Dion song from 1968.

      M13, here is the thing for me why I respect this music but don’t dig it. Too much narration, preaching and scolding. For me, this type of music lacks dynamics and melody. It becomes a trance of rhythm and ranting. How many songs can you listen to about how everything is all fucked up?

      I get the message, but now we have thousands of the same tunes saying the same shit with the same beats and it keeps on happening. Bring back Motown as Snoop would say MFers!!! LOL

      • pheloniusphish says:

        And Tupac was a thug, not one of the “good.” He has been glamorized, but he lived a life of violence and crime. His parents and other people in his family were members of the Black Panther Party and his lyrics supported that.

  47. Tim Knight says:

    If we get anything close to this guy along with Wake and Harris, it’s going to be fun.

  48. steveccnv says:

    Pigs, you send that email?

  49. steveccnv says:

    Quinn, Hayes, McDonald, Amendola

    • Tim Knight says:

      Drake, Wilson and Grant are being overlooked. That’s where the big plays are coming from outside of the potential TE, Stills, Amendola, Parker etc.

      Block, play well at QB, spread the ball around on both the ground and through the air.

  50. Rockphin says:

    Tim, it is a good policy in general to ignore the comments section on the Palm Beach Post it is populated by a large percentage of trolls.

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