For 2018, the Miami Dolphins will definitely have a new look on the defensive line, especially at defensive end. Most notably, on March 2nd, the Dolphins traded for Rams DE Robert Quinn, sending a 4th RD pick and swapped 6th RD picks to the Rams. What the Dolphins are probably hoping for is the 10.5 sacks he achieved in ’14 as a true DE, or the 19 sacks he got in 2013, but the Dolphins would love something in between the two. Cam Wake returns at the age of 36, but we all know and understand that Wake treats his body like a temple, and is in prime physical condition. Charles Harris will be entering his 2nd season, and although he won’t be a starter, the theme at DT also applies to DE, so there will be plenty of rotation going on, and Charles Harris will get plenty of opportunities to show some improvement. Also returning this season is Andre Branch, who had a down season last year as he was maligned by minor injuries. William Hayes also returns, and although he was also hampered by injuries last season, Hayes continues to be a productive player in run support and is probably our best edge setter.
Robert Quinn RDE – 6’4 250
Although we will be rotating players often, Robert Quinn will likely be starting on the right side. If Quinn is healthy, specifically his back, he could be a huge help to the Dolphins defense. Last season used as an OLB in the Rams 3-4 alignment, Quinn managed 8.5 sacks, along with 32 total tackles with 2 FF’s and 2 FR’s. If Quinn can give the Dolphins production like he had in 2013 or 2014, this defense will be significantly better than last year. Unfortunately, it’s been 4 years since he’s done that, but I admire the Dolphins gamble on the former All-Pro DE.
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William Hayes LDE – 6’3 278
Hayes played in 10 games for the Dolphins last season and although he didn’t start, he’s our best run defending end. Hayes will also play some DT, and he will do that on obvious passing downs to give the defense some more of a rush from the middle. Whether he starts or not is unimportant, Hayes will definitely be leaned on for help on the DL, whether it’s at LE or DT.
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Andre Branch RDE – 6’5 263
Branch had 14 starts last year, but as I previously mentioned, he is 2017 season was marred by minor injuries. Branch’s tackle total dropped from almost 50 to 23, and his sack total was down from 5.5 to 4.5. The Dolphins would be happy with his 2016 production or better, and if healthy, Branch may well be the starter, as they save Robert Quinn for pass rush duties.
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Charles Harris RDE – 6’3 250
Last year’s first RD pick showed some potential although overall it was not an overwhelmingly successful season. While the rookie showed some explosive get off, he managed only 2 sacks, but did get 23 QB hurries. This season, some of those hurries need to turn into sacks. The Dolphins have enough talent at DE that Hayes won’t need to be leaned on heavily, but there’s no question they need to bring him along from last season. The 23YO will definitely get his pass rushing chances, but he will also get some work in the run game too. It’s time for Harris to start developing into a complete player, and not just a pass rush specialist.
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Cameron Malveaux DE – 6’5 276
The big Houston Cougars DE showed some flashes last season, mostly in preseason action. He definitely has good size, and the 2 sport athlete (Basketball, Football) has the athleticism to play DE. The 2017 UDFA will get his shot to make the team, but the considerable depth after the Quinn trade will make it more difficult. At worst, Malveaux is a developmental player worthy of the PS.
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Jonathan Woodard DE – 6’6 271
Woodard was a 2016 7th RD draft pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jaguars cut him, and then the Atlanta Falcons picked him up and put him on the PS only to release him from the PS which enabled the Dolphins to pick him up and place him on the Dolphins PS. Woodard recorded 15 sacks in 24 (16 starts) games at Central Arkansas, so he certainly made the most of his opportunities there. Another DE with the right size and athleticism who needs to be brought along and developed. Not to be repetitive, but with the current depth, Woodard faces a high climb to make the team.
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Claudy Mathieu DE – 6’6 250
The former California-Pennsylvania and Notre Dame (Ohio) Falcons player came into the NFL last season as a 25YO rookie. Another player will excellent physical traits, but a long way to go to being a finished product. The Dolphins picked up Mathieu as an UDFA this season. At the moment, Mathieu is a longshot to make the cut.
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Quincy Redmon DE – 6’5 240
Redmon was signed by the Dolphins as a 2018 UDFA. The former Fairmont College Fighting Falcon DE was a 2016 was named All-MEC 1st team defensive lineman with 52 total tackles and 12 sacks. Injuries sidelined Redmon in 2017 as a Senior as he missed the final 5 games. Another athletic specimen who faces an uphill climb to make the roster.
Finsmob Unleashed 
so 3 weeks from this Thursday is the first pre-season game? Awesome!!! Then after 2 of those I will be saying…when will the pre-season end??LOL
Don’t rush the summer away Bookman! 🙂
Said ye who works in the AC 😁
Hey Summer
GO THE F AWAY!!!
THANKS FOR THE WORK MIKE,
And I’d say welcome back, but taint my house,
So WELCOME to your humble abode!!!
KV – Has nothing to do with working in A/C, nothing better than the long days of summer. You come home, and there’s still some daylight left to enjoy, and it’s not so cold that everyone goes into hibernation. If you work outside though, I can see why the summer can be a PITA.
😎 Mike..
Hibernation mode down here is Summer cuz its to damn hot to leave the AC, unless you GOTTA WORK!!!
Winter time is when the couch potatoes come out down here!!!
Working outside, it don’t matter to me how much daylight is left when I’m done, WANT NO PART OF IT AFTET WORKING IN IT ALL DAY!!!
But Yea, I get it (summer) for those bound to be snowed in come Winter 😨
AFC EAST TC PREVIEW
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940378/article/afc-east-training-camp-preview-key-issues-players-to-watch
GOFINS!!!
Mike, nice write up.
Branch started the season playing really well – had 3 sacks in the first 4 games then at some point he got banged up which eventually lead to him being shut down and had offseason surgery on his knee. He offers us quality depth.
Quinn is 27 right..
Wasn’t CWake around 27 when coming to us from the CFL??
And look what he’s done in Miami..
He and Quinn are #1 & 2 in sacks over however many of the last several to a bunch of years,
Be pretty cool if Quinn can be near as productive for near as long as CWAKE!!!
GOFINS!!!
Quinn had some injuries in recent years that cut down on his production. But he appears to be healthy with all the reports about how explosive he looked in OTAs with his rare bending ability off the edge. Him having a big season could really make a difference on our defense.
Nice Mike…I think having quality pass rushers is the 3rd most important thing behind a running game and good QB play.
It would seem on paper we look good at the DE dept, I think Branch will step up this year and I hope Harris does as well. I believe this is one of our strongest positions.
I hope you had a good Vacation
They always say the QB, guys that protect the QB, and then guys that disrupt the QB are always the most important, so I agree. Vacation was fantastic, I need a vacation from my vacation. It was just non-stop activities from early till late at night, and it kinda caught up to me. Both my son and I have summer colds, probably because we burned the candle at both ends all week long.
Stop doing blow Mikey!
Mike,
I like the Summer, but I am a fan of all 4 seasons. The one thing I hate is heat and humidity, it is one of the reasons I moved back from Florida. It has been like Florida here quite a bit this Summer and I hate it!!…..and yes….I would rather the snow and cold than the heat and humidity……..nobody ever accused me of being normal…LOL
and welcome back!
Thanks Bookman! I get it, the summer humidity and heat can be overwhelming, but I’ll take those long days over dark at 4:30-5PM in winter every time. So many more parties and get togethers, to me summer is the best
Im there with ya man and yet i have lived my entire life in the coastal south east. Thats about as much humidity and you can get, though i will say that some parts of Florida can be as bad as any place i have lived here.
Not sure how many total DL we’ll keep, could be 9 or 10 total. Maybe we use an 8 man rotation in the games so everyone plays about 30 plays and can remain fresh and attacking through the 4th quarter. That sounds like the plan so that’s why we need the depth.
We’ve all seen when a defense gets tired and is playing sluggish late in the game, how the game slips away because they can’t stop anything. Really want to see us terrorizing offenses for all 4 quarters.
I think we normally keep 10
Oh yeah we have in the past many times but the snaps weren’t always divided evenly. Not saying it will be an exact snap count for all because it won’t, but it should be close with no one player having an overload of snaps. I like the idea.
The DL rotation will be 9 guys, with Hayes split between the 2 positions. No reason to use any more or less when all are healthy enough to play. I’d think, if one of the 9 were inactive, because of injury or whatever, we’d use an 8 man rotation.
You’re probably right.
This summer has had some really hot days and some humid ones like today, but it’s been a really nice summer for the most part.
YeeeHaaaGIGGITTY,
Basically just two weeks till the HOF GAME, AWESOME, FOOTBALL IS BACK!!!
HMMM Roquon…
The entitled type??
Hey Roquon, the scale is set, sign’ze’papel rookie!!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940502/article/roquan-smith-not-at-start-of-camp-with-bears-rookies
That’s strange because these deals are pretty much set up as no haggle.
Maybe it was a good thing we didn’t get a chance to draft him?
You mean that Minkah fell to us?
HECK YEAH MAN!
GO PHINS
Offset language as usghe.
can’t imagine him on the other side of Wake! he looks good against the run as well
Quinn beat our ass 2 years ago for 3.5 quarters, then it was the RT show.
NICE, especially vs Colts & Hawks!!!
Was that Gore #33 on Colts, what # was Gore on Colts??
MIke E — hope your trip was a good one, a nice write on the DEs. Not as sure as you about getting Harris to be a complete DE though. Think he was drafted as and is a pass rushing specialist, mainly at least. Gonna have to work out how they are used, but we are five quality deep. Should have some real fresh legs lining up looking to get to the QB.
I’d (without question) say that Quinn, Branch, Hayes, Harris, & CWake make the 53,
Though I would like to see one of the big youngsters of Malveaux or Woodard..
But don’t see it unless we only keep 4 DT (Phillips, Godchaux, Taylor, & Spence)
Which would leave the 11th DL Gabe Wright out as well as Moten & Pittman
With Hayes’ age, and Branch expected 10 mill cut in o19…
We could sure use a big Malveaux/Woodard for the future at DE!!!
Minus #93, we sure could use a 5th DT for the future (not named Hayes/age),
Gabe Wright would be my guess…
6 DE (with Malveaux OR Woodard) & 4 DT with Hayes being the interchangeable 5th DT ??
OR
5 DE & 5 DT (with a likely Gabe Wright) ??
DE’s primarily Branch & Harris are both likely gone in o19..
So I’m leaning toward a 6th DE (Malveaux/Woodard)
over a 5th DT Wright etc…
Long-term
DE is more important, and Hayes can be the 5th DT for one more year..
GOFINS!!!
I can guarantee you Harris would t be gone in 19.
That was supposed to say Hayes (my badd)
same miscue as in Mikes piece…
Sorry Mike, Harris Hayes in the same convo can tend to get mixed-up!!!
YEA ABSOLUTELY, THAT WAS MY TYPO STEVE,
hope the jest of it is still comprehendible!!
“””DE’s primarily Branch & Harris are both likely gone in o19..””””
HAYES, NOTTT HARRIS !!!!
Shoot DE CWake can’t have too many more years in him either..
So I’m definitely hoping to keep DE orMalveaux and/or Woodard over DT Wright!!!
Perhaps draft a stud DT early in o19??
GOFINS!!!
We’ll see what happens this season, but both Branch and Hayes could be in our future. Branch isn’t that old and even didn’t play up to the money could take less. And I just like how Hayes plays. Seems he wants to stay with the Phins and that run DE/DT flex option is valuable.
Yea, I like Hayes a lot !!!
DT Jordan Phillips in in contract year,
So thinking we’ll likely go stud DT early in o19..
And with DE’s Hayes/Branch/Wake on the tip of the tail-end of their Dolphin careers,
I’m thinking we should keep one if not both of those young big DE’s (Malveaux/Woodard)…
I hate running to the store for milk in my morning coffee, I like stocking shelves long beforehand!!!
“””We’ll See””” soon enough 😛
GOFINS!!!
Stanger – I think when you draft a guy in RD 1 you hope that player is eventually a starter. Whether Harris ever becomes great or even average against the run remains to be seen, but I don’t think you take a guy at #22 and have him only play on passing downs. Just my thoughts
REALLY NICE article, Mike E.!! –I, too, was underwhelmed by Harris’ performance last season. NOT up to round 1 standards. But, maybe THIS YEAR – – – .
Thanks OD – Reply to your story below it
Just see Harris as like Wake. Which also means that he could play a lot of run downs as well. And even if not great at them….. there is always what they are great at to pop out on any given play. And that is a nice option to have.
It was said forever that JT couldn’t defend the run!!!
I’d be fine with Harris becoming a JT type,
(Though I’d doubt that any Dolphin DE will ever be as productive as JT), but I’ll take the likes of what he brought whenever on the field!!!
GOFINS!!!
EVERY SO OFTEN something happens to put a huge smile on both your face and your heart.
TODAY was one of those huge smile days.
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A FEW WEEKS AGO at a convention my company attended I came across a dealer from Alabama who said “I heard you’re a big Dolphin fan/season ticket holder. And I also was told that you wrote a series on the Dolphin’s Perfect Season. Is that true?” I fessed-up and said, “Yup. it’s all true.” “Well,” he continued, one of my best friends is a key player from the ’72 season. Where can he find this series of articles?” I told him how to get it off of the internet. He replied, I’ll be sending you something special in a couple of weeks.”
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This “something special” arrived Friday at work while I was gone to Orlando working a convention on International Drive. I’m a professional numismatic grader/authenticator by profession. I’m also president of the state organization that sponsors this convention. After busting my ass all weekend, I returned to my desk at work to see an 8 1/2 by 11 custom photo of one of the greatest players ever to come out of the state of Alabama, starting 1972 Miami Dolphins linebacker Mike Kolen!!! On the left side of this photo was the inscription “Randy, God Bless You! —Mike Kolen.” Then, on the right side of the game action close-up photo the words “Captain Crunch, 1972 Perfect Season, 17-0” were carefully hand written. A note from this dealer from Alabama to me said “Randy, Here is something for the trophy room. Hope you enjoy!”
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I was, and I am, absolutely stunned and amazed. And I just can’t get that smile on my face!
That’s fantastic OD! Nice story! I’m sure it was a thrill to both hear that, and to receive such a wonderful gift
OD — and you thought you were just writing for us numbnuts…….. that is awesome.
NICE, Mr. Campbell!!! This news brings a smile to MY face, Brother!!!
Awesome!
VERY COOL Rob, AWESOME GOOD FOR YOU!!!
Loved Mike Kolen/Capt’n Crunch !!!
GOFINS!!!
Wow! What a story. It’s crazy sometimes how things go full circle.
That’s awesome!
At least we’re in one of the circles…
Only Chiefs, Giants, Vikings in all three circles
Giants won what 2 games in o17 ??
Nice job Mike E.
Cool story.. Went to the local sports bar Friday with the wife and met a guy named Matt G who happened to be a big Dolphins fan. I told him about us and he shares the same passion as us and is very informed. I invited him to the site and hopefully he will post soon. Matt’s a cool dude and you guys will dig him.
OD.. That is awesome !! Please bring that to D&B on Saturday so we can all enjoy it with you 👍
HEY GUYZ and GALZ; Thanks so much for your replies. This little event has gotten me into the “Dolphins Football Spirit” AT LAST!!!
I’ll bring this little “KOLEN TROPHY” to the Fest in October.
OUT for tonight!
Keep summer going as long as the A’s keep shocking the MLB 🙂
“Camp Battle – DE” is an obligatory discussion cuz this is the one position the is ‘cut and dry’.
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Aug 27 – 29 (mon, tues, wed) A’s will be in Houston again. I go to at least 2 games each series in Houston but this last one my 8 year old great nephew was staying with me for a week and did NOT want to drive 3 1/2 hrs to “eat a hot dog” LOL
I will post here looking for you if you want to meet up for a friendly baseball outing. 🙂 I absolutely love Minute Maid Park. Best ballpark in MLB in my opinion.
Just sayin!
You DID see this last series in Houston right? lol A freak play of the decade saves Astros from a sweep. 2012 is about to repeat itself. 🙂 Astros rotation (minus Verlander) is showing signs of regression.
Did you the first series????????????
All I have to say to that is Mike Trout is the man and could be a starting MLB on any NFL team. Dude is massive. I met him quite a few times while I was the Warehouse Manager at Angel Stadium. Shit I commented about round ball .. 😳
Trout has been that size since he was 7 years old? Dude is the best ‘masker’ in the business. As an A’s fan, we have a history of recognizing muscle mass: Canseco, McGwire, Tejada, Giambi, (Bonds across the bay) LOL. Trout will probably end up like Roger Clemens some day. (sorry, Angels are to A’s what Jets are to Fins)
If Harris doesn’t become a good every down player, it won’t be from a lack of work ethic and effort. I happen to think he’s going to a very good player – a top pass rusher and solid enough against the run.
Rhino says:
July 16, 2018 at 9:22 pm
You DID see this last series in Houston right? lol A freak play of the decade saves Astros from a sweep. 2012 is about to repeat itself. 🙂 Astros rotation (minus Verlander) is showing signs of regression.
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If you wish on a shooting star it may come true!
Verlander will be there!
Besides we all need to worry about the FRACKIN Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Red Sox too.
Not so much!
But they are in the conversation!
They have the best record in baseball. LOL
FYI, A’s have had to use 12 different SP due to injuries! and yet the ‘last place team’ is 13 games over .500 (4-2 against Boston). Pitchers are getting healthy. Not saying we’re there yet, but we are definitely 18 months early. 🙂
Tim Knight says:
July 16, 2018 at 9:37 pm
They have the best record in baseball. LOL
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NOW?????????
Well yeah but that counts. Not that I care, I’m not a fan, was surprised to hear they were ahead of the Yankees by 4.5 games.
Wyo, don’t get me wrong. Astros deserve to be where they are. Been to many games at Minute Maid over the last 5 years where they fielded a AAA team and would say to myself: “if only this owner would spend money”… but they built through the draft and THEN attracted FAs (just like the GSWarriors). So, Astros earned it. But they still feel like NL team lost in the wrong neighborhood.
For perspective, check with 2010, 2011 Rangers seeking 3rd WS appearance only to get swept by A’s in last series of the season and lose the division. 🙂 I feel that vibe again this year.
I still find myself thinking of them as an NL team!
But if they get the hits going?
You can’t stop the pitching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta run!
We’ll piss off everyone and talk MLB tomorrow! 😉
I’m of the impression that our MLB will be Raekwon McMillan… just sayin’!!! 😉
I’m with MF,
My O’s are having their worst season in history!!!
RMc for MLB MVP !!!
GOFINS!!!
Rhino – Are you guys interested in deGrom? I’ll take some of your top prospects off your hands for you. I like a few of your top minor leaguers.
Welcome back Mike E!
ICYMI- Phelon was in my area last week and came over to my house last Thursday for a mini fest cookout. What a great guy, it was cool of him to come over.
Thanks Sonny! That’s great! I hope to meet Phelon at a Fest, either the big FLA Fest or the smaller NE Fest
Tim Knight says:
July 16, 2018 at 5:31 pm
That’s strange because these deals are pretty much set up as no haggle.
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Its always the offset language that hangs it up. Teams dnt wanna put that language in the contract because it mean they still have to pay them even if they cut them and another team picks them up. Players of course want the ability to double dip so it winds up a stalemate sometimes. I dont know why it has to be though, because i doubt very seriously a guy picked that high shouldn’t be someone you feel is a threat to be cut before the end of his rookie deal, not to mention rookie contracts, even the best of them arent big money contracts so it shouldnt be a concern on the teams part to give them that security and get them signed.
I guess NFL teams are looking to protect themselves from the Kevin White’s and Reuben Foster’s of the world. One guy can’t stay healthy and the other has constant off the field legal issues.
Thats pretty awesome OD, but when you started that statement about one of the greatest Alabama players to play as a dolphin i assumed you were about to talk about Dwight Stephenson. Still a very cool story.
MikeE,
deGrom talk on A’s blogs is whispered only by the most optimistic die-hards. Unlike 2014 when A’s had best record in baseball when they traded for Lester and Samardjiza, this team won’t be going “all in” for top of the line pitcher yet. The only reason they MIGHT is that he is under control for a few years… but as the lowest payroll in mlb (yes, even lower than Marlins) I can’t see them paying one guy the same money our entire infield makes. lol
A’s have some great prospects at 3B and 1B that are blocked by Chapman and Olson, as well as SS Barreto. I think the only untouchables are Jesus Luzardo (P) and Murphy (C). I can’t see Mets trading deGrom without asking for Luzardo. I think A’s would rather keep Luzardo as part of great rotation built from trading AWAY that 2014 team. Now, IF the A’s managed to get within, say, 4 games of Houston over the next 2 weeks, that might actually change the narrative.
I hear ya Rhino, right now I’d think there are a few destinations deGrom could land, but the Mets will definitely be asking the best of the best, and rightfully so.
Awesome story, OD!!
14 HC’s call their own plays,
And I wouldn’t want any of the 5 waiting to become a HC
over Gase!!!
http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-chargers/post/_/id/24331/finding-the-next-sean-mcvay-head-coaches-who-call-offensive-plays
Someone might be happy??????
The Seahawks seem to overhauling their team.
But saddest thing of all is that after the Minkah pick there is no way M13 can even think about finally getting his Thomas dream.
M13 has said he’s past that at this point, prefers we go younger.
9 days until Training Camp . . . These newbies will really realize how brutal the summer heat and humidity are in FLA.
Just came back from your way yesterday. Exactly same weather going on and off the plane. Low 90’s and muggy as heck….. but then we specialize in that this time of year and man does that suck the energy out of you.
You was in Joisey? Or were you in CT?
I was in CT, but fly in was LGA. Assume weather the same. Memorial service for my godparents who passed like 20 days apart.
Gotcha – Yeah, it’s been pretty brutal here with the heat and humidity the last week or so
It’s in their best interest and I’m sure they’ve been told to do it, but get out in the heat, walk around, go for a jog etc. so when TC begins it’s not overwhelming.
Sorry to hear that, Stanger. My condolences to you.
Thanks Tim. Two great people. Was never a doubt growing up that if my parents’ plane went down who my new parents would be.
That’s nice Stanger, you can’t pick your parents or godparents for that matter. Sorry for your loss.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-steelers-rb-bell-turned-down-70-million-152132286–nfl.html
Not sure you’re going to get offered much more than that next year by the Steelers or another team as you’ll have another year of wear and tear for a RB.
Huge discussion on NFL radio about that this morning. Bell is trying to set the price for RB’s, but at $14M per, which is what the Steelers offered, it’s $6M more than any other RB contract, so it would have exceeded that by quite a lot. Still, Bell feels like he should be paid as much as Sammy Watkins and Jarvis Landry, and it’s pretty hard to argue against that.
Many contracts seem pretty out of whack to me. I’m just pointing out that a RB’s lifespan is lesser than many other positions and he may never see that deal offered again. However no doubt he’s a great player.
My condolences to you Stanger
Thanks, but far from my loss most of all. Interesting comment that wafted my way from seats over a beer while the better half was getting her hair done — “He’s actually going to a memorial service…. never judge some based on how they are dressed.” That from the bartender talked to before.
Just to give you some vantage on PFF’s scoring. According to PFF:
Kenny Stills is our worst WR, followed by Leontee Caroo, they both are “Poor”. Grant (Below Average), Parker and Wilson (Average) with Amendola is the best with an above average rating.Stills atually graded out somewhat significantly lower then Caroo…. how in the fuck is that possible,
They also believe Godchaux is the worst out of he, Phillips and Spence, Spence being the best. All of our DT must be liked by them because they all got average ratings at least lol.
Our DE are all over the place, Quinn being the lowest rated one, rated “Poor”, Branch and Harris bath are average, Wake above average, and Hayes apparently is our best rate in the “High Quality” range.
Something that should summon ORob, they have Gore and Drake evenly rated, both above average, barely.
They also have Larsen and Davis pretty evenly rated, but both are deep into the “Poor” range, Kilgore too. In fact the only OL we have that has a grade better than Poor were Sitton (High Quality) and James(Above Average).
Gavin Escobar is out best TE, though thy dont have grades on the rookies yet, but he is the only not “Poor” Rated TE on our roster, and his rating is inside the below average range, close to average.
Our QB’s other than Tanny who obviously doesnt have a score from being out since 2016, we all rated “Poor”.
The LB’s are all poop apparently, especially Alonzo whose rating if it drops much more will be negative and they will have to find a new color in the spectrum to use to classify it. All our LB’s rated poor, though some didn’t have a rating because they are nubs.
Our secondary didnt fare much better, Both the starters from last year on the outside are poor, Our safeties are average to above average, should be obvious which is which. They did sorta like Bobby McCain though, had him as above average.
So there we have it, oh yeah i forgot, on a tier scale of tier 1 being the best and tier 4 being the worst, they have our offensive play makers rated tier 3, but redeemed us by giving us an overall tier 4 rating for our offense as a whole lol. They didnt get a chance to rub it in though, the article had nothing for our defense, but with the player scores and can pretty much guess what tier they would have had us in.
Because they don’t look at all the circumstances, young players taking the next step and the potential of rookies or the change of scenery for some vet guys. They’re too locked into their own opinions based on what they see or think they saw. And who are these friggin PFF people anyway? LOL
ABSOLUTELY REDICULOUS!!!
Guess those ratings are what the world is judging us by??
How long have those grades been out ??
CWake doesn’t get superstar status, pffftt,
Quinn is poor, the top two sack guys over the last how many years!!!
ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!
They must’a had one if their inner-division rival fan employees do the Dolphins!!!
GOFINS!!!
Lemme Guess, #93, 51, & 14 got superstars lost status???
We’ll show’Em!!!
Mike E. says:
July 17, 2018 at 4:04 pm
Huge discussion on NFL radio about that this morning. Bell is trying to set the price for RB’s, but at $14M per, which is what the Steelers offered, it’s $6M more than any other RB contract, so it would have exceeded that by quite a lot. Still, Bell feels like he should be paid as much as Sammy Watkins and Jarvis Landry, and it’s pretty hard to argue against that.
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Its like peanuts though what he is rumored to be seeking and the difference in what they were offering. It was supposedly like 500K a year difference, so a total contract amount of 2.5mil on a 70mil deal. Just seems silly to walk away when you are that close.
Ross Tucker was saying he wanted about $16M per, but I agree, he should have taken the $14M per/$70M contract
Oh and Tim, there really is no “out of whack”, they are all out of whack to us, so simple supply and deman previals here. It only matters these things, how important are you to your team or some other team, what competition is there in the market at your position, where do you stand in comparison to them, and do you bring something to the table that no other does.
I think in Bells case, there isnt a ton of competition that compares to him and coming up for contract at the same time. David Johnson is, but he is most likely gonna get the FT or a new contract. He definately controls a significant amount of leverage in his contract negotiations. It is very had for most RB to win the negotiations, especially if they are turning the corner towards 30, but at 26, he could give some team that missing piece that puts them over the edge. He is a good receiver for systems that like to use RB’s like that, he is a very unique running threat, not a power back but something way beyond just a one cut. If the Steelers dont pay him that 14.5 i think he’s going to get it from someone.
What I meant is some players are looking for so much money that it fucks up the team’s overall ability to put together a complete team. That’s why I like the way we’ve started to go about it with a lot of guys no higher than $30+M contracts and not tops in the league at multiple positions because many times those teams do not win big.
For instance the Rams are going to have a tough time signing a bunch of guys soon and that’s sad because they really do have a good nucleus.
As for Bell, first he has to play the 2018 season and in 2019 he’ll be heading into his 7th season. Maybe there will be a team who pays him what he wants, but it won’t be a competitive market. It will be one or two teams competing and willing because most teams are not paying RBs big bucks. It’s just the way it is.
He should have signed the deal the Steelers offered him because if he suffers a serious injury or another suspension it’s over. This is a guy who has been suspended twice – one being arrested on marijuana possession, and another for PEDs. He also had a season ending knee injury.
If Bell wants to be paid like a WR he should play WR. RB is not valued as much as WR. It’s just the way it is
He’s trying to pave the way to RB’s getting paid for what they do. He does a lot more than either Landry or Watkins, yet they get paid more
And neither Watkins or 14 shoulda got anywhere near the money they got!!!
Brandon Cooks got Landry money and runs circles around him!!!
But their shelf life is much shorter and quite frankly it is not clear they do more than WRs any more with how important the passing game has become
Because they were both grossly overpaid. Watkins is the more talented player but not reliable. However he can be a major scoring threat. That’s why he only got a 3 year deal. CLE probably thinks they have Wes Welker for 4-5 years in Landry. Maybe so. They better hope so, that’s a lot of money for 5-10 yard catches and up and down TD totals.
stangerx says:
July 17, 2018 at 12:54 pm
But saddest thing of all is that after the Minkah pick there is no way M13 can even think about finally getting his Thomas dream.
Tim Knight says:
July 17, 2018 at 1:01 pm
M13 has said he’s past that at this point, prefers we go younger.
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It’s true. The Pearl would cost us an arm and a leg, and we’re still not totally out of cap trouble yet. And even if we didn’t draft Minkah, I think we look very good with Reshad and TJ playing Safeties.
The idea is now to get YOUNGER at some key positions… particularly expensive positions. If we can draft well, we can get 4-5 years of solid play on rookie contracts.
Now if we were a mere Safety away from a Super Bowl run and had the cap space, I’d give the MOON to the Pearl… but that not the case for us.
I can still admire him from afar… so long as he doesn’t go to the AFC East. It makes me happy that some of y’all remember how badly I wanted to draft the Pearl back in 2010. I never pounded the table so hard in my life for any other player before or since. 🙂
Our cap issue is fine. Plenty of ways to move on next year while still having some in-season money this year. Remember as the young prospects become players and are still on rookie contracts, there will be another rookie class next year. This team has a two year window to start competing or we will move on from some players and the top brass. Even though the top brass may be replaced at some point, it doesn’t mean there is nothing left for the next regime to build on. There’s lots of promising young players on this team. It’s always churning if you don’t win.
I hear ya, I’m just trying to say that we can NOT afford a marquis player right now. IMO (only), one is not GOOD with cap space until one CAN afford a marquis player like the Pearl.
Yes, we’re alright with our cap space as in nothing to fear in the near future. I agree.
Who are we signing as a marquis player? We’ve gone away from that. We just unloaded over $40M per this year for 3 players looking to the future. For some reason people act like T-Baum, Grier and Gase are in their 5th year together. It’s year 3, they are doing things differently. They didn’t take over a good team in 2016, just some pieces.
Gase took a 2015 6-10 team after a 1-4 start to the playoffs his first season in 2016. Forgotten already. All anyone focuses on is last year’s shit season for so many reasons, but we’ve bee through it.
This season is huge for all of them and everyone knows it. Go Phins!!!!
AMEN KNIGHT !!!
MR. Stanger, deepest condolences to you, my friend. 😦
Thanks but no need. Just glad got to be there for the family grew up with. My condolences back on Earl. 🙂
🙂
Ken, Watkins had 593 yards receiving last season, Bell had 655. Plus, Bell had about 1300 yards rushing. Who’s more valuable?
Folks keep suggesting that 14’s a perennial Pro-Bowler,
But if I recall he was voted in just once (if that),
while being named a late SUBSTITUTE replacement in the others…
NO-MATTER, HE GONE,
Just bugs me that we get graded on what’s gone,
Rather than what’s on the horizon!!!
GOFINS!!!
GREAT STORY!!!
I see A LOTT of Bell in Drake, (on the cheap) at that !!!
GOFINS!!!
Drake has more than one cut in him and he really doesn’t dance around, he just reacts to what’s there. The guy is always looking for daylight and moving forward. If the OL is solid and stable this year, Drake should have an impressive season.
I’ve seen Drake do that patented delay/hesitation move of Bells quite frequently…
That one when he get the defender in front of him at the LOS to think he committed to taking him head on, gets the guy leaning forward, stops dead, slaps the off balanced defender to the side and then hit the hole that he himself vacated the defender from, Love that move via Drake/Bell!!!
Bell has that patient studded step thing, and I see Drake using that a lot too!!!
GOFINS!!!
Bell’s heavier 230 to Drake reported 215 with new muscle…
Both 6-1, and very good RB receivers…
Drake out performed in everything but the bench & 3 come at combine,
40, verticle, broad, 20 shuttle etc…
I think Drake runs A LOT like Bell, even though Bell was 1 rep stronger per pound on the bench…
Ballage is an eventual Eric Dickerson,
And Gore is a Gore !!!
Quite the 3 Headed Monster!!!
GOFINS!!!
NICE!!!
Tim Knight says:
July 17, 2018 at 7:49 pm
Who are we signing as a marquis player? We’ve gone away from that. We just unloaded over $40M per this year for 3 players looking to the future. For some reason people act like T-Baum, Grier and Gase are in their 5th year together. It’s year 3, they are doing things differently. They didn’t take over a good team in 2016, just some pieces.
Gase took a 2015 6-10 team after a 1-4 start to the playoffs his first season in 2016. Forgotten already. All anyone focuses on is last year’s shit season for so many reasons, but we’ve bee through it.
This season is huge for all of them and everyone knows it. Go Phins!!!!
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We aren’t signing anyone as a marquis player — so as to put us over the top to win a Super Bowl — being we don’t have the cap space AND we aren’t quite that close yet… or so it would seem! 🙂
Either I’m not conveying my thoughts well, or you’re misunderstanding me. Once we become a perennial top-contender (not a team comprised of high-priced FAs — DRAFTING well, instead!), our cap space should be GOOD enough to warrant signing one high-priced FA to put us over the top to win a Super Bowl.
It’s a process just getting to be a perennial top-contender, and we’re not quite there yet. But I DO believe that we could be getting close! As you stated, we shed over $40M by getting rid of 3 mere players who didn’t get us any closer to a Super Bowl than the year before.
I think we’re on the same page, Brother! I just wish that we could be like the Patsies* in that they can generally have a marquis FA of their choice with money to spend — and for a discount — because they are perennial winners (albeit cheaters). 🙂
We aren’t there yet only because this team hasn’t taken the field yet. Would any us really be surprised, if we went 12-4? I don’t think so.
We’re getting closer to that time where we all post our season predictions! 🙂
And let us hope that nobody important goes down for the year or any length of time in TC or the PS.
No because talent and depth usually makes that happen. LOL
For shit & giggles a couple months ago I did that PBP predict each game poll several times
And the worst result was 9-7
My best result was 11-5
The burden that all that off-field crap in o17 caused
has been seriously underestimated!!!
GOFINS!!!
YOUNG STANGER: Just found out about your losses. Mrs. OD and I send our sincerest condolences. May tomorrow bring you and your’s plenty of sunshine both mentally and physically. Whatever guidance they may have brought you obviously went to outstanding use.
Thanks OD — more goes to the family than me, but the event was weeks after. Like it better to celebrate the life that soon after the loss of it. Even if then, there were some tears.
D: Thanks for your comments on my “Mike Kolen Moment.” I think you may have confused Alabama the university with Alabama the state. Kolen, as you know, went to AUBURN and is widely regarded as a major cog in Miami’s “Run to Perfection.” Yes, Dwight Stephenson was the best Dolphin player ever from the U. of Alabama. Who can ever forget him blocking Refridgerator Perry 1-on-1 WITH A SEPARATED SHOULDER/STINGER during that memorable night in the historic Orange Bowl when the Dolphins ended Chicago’s dream of a Perfect Season?
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Kolen, too, had his unbelievable night during Miami’s 1973 season. I’ll relive that special performance some time later this year. Suffice it to say that the Dolphins NEVER could have gone 32-2 in two consecutive seasons without “Captain Crunch!” –Many say that Miami’s Perfect Season will never be duplicated. So far those holding that opinion have NOT been disproven. But I say the most amazing record held by this franchise is their 32-2 record over two consecutive seasons. I SAY that record WILL LAST LONGER than Miami’s Perfect Season!!
M13, not trying to challenge you, just talking Phins. We all want the same thing. 🙂
AMEN, BRO!!!
GO PHINS!!!
I must say, though… it does sometimes sound like you’re trying to challenge with your responses. Now I don’t mind ANY kind of challenging whatsoever (that breeds greater understanding!), but we’re on the same page almost all of the time!
We must need to re-calibrate or something! LOL 🙂
It’s the typed word. Have a beer together and it’s… alright… alright. LOL
🍺
The greatest NHL hockey player and most dominant sports figure of all time is Wayne Gretzky and it’s not even close. He scored over 200 points 4 times in a season and nobody else has ever done it once. His other season stats multiple times are tops in the league as well. He is the most dominant sports figure of all time in a team sport. Again, it’s not even close.
He was named “The Great One” for good reason! And Mark Levin has that in common with Gretzky! 🙂
Mark Levin? LOL
YES! Mark Levin is also known as “The Great One”!
The radio political dude? Nah… that’s opinion not real stats. I like him but also disagree with him at times. I’m not talking about opinion, I’m talking about production.
Gretzky’s production is so far beyond everyone it’s absurd.
The last CBA was supposed to help out the players by mandating how much of revenues was to go to the players. Wheat the players should have fought for is a much higher minimum wage for vets. They (and the owners) got the cap on the young first rounders that were going up and up and up but they haven’t equitably redistributed the wealth. TOO large a percentage still is spent wastefully. (Suh getting 16% of the total cap)
A higher min wage for vets is worse for them, because they wouldn’t make the team, that’s why it is what it is.
Tim Knight says:
July 17, 2018 at 9:41 pm
The radio political dude? Nah… that’s opinion not real stats. I like him but also disagree with him at times. I’m not talking about opinion, I’m talking about production.
Gretzky’s production is so far beyond everyone it’s absurd.
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YES! The radio political dude! And of course, that’s a moniker given to him by mere opinion. Just had to mention it, being Gretzky has the same moniker. 🙂
Yeah… I can’t think of any other team sports figure who SO dominated as Gretzky had. I haven’t looked into beach volleyball (team sport) in a while, but I’m willing to bet that Gretzky is still the most dominant.
LOL @ beach volleyball.
That was my BEST thing (volleyball) at PSU, man! Just like Mike Gesicki! I was very good in the gym (6-on-6), but even BETTER in the sand (2-on-2). Then, my shoulder blew out… dreams of going pro in ANY sport were then shattered.
That’s why I HATE seeing reports of these young bucks getting major injuries… been there, done that.
HMMM,
Top Four & 7 of top 9 as well as other rooks still unsigned!!!
Greedy MF’ers, schiiishh
At’A’Boy 29/Minkah/Miami
And we had to wait till June/Suh $$$ before signing anybody!!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000932328/article/2018-nfl-draft-firstround-signing-tracker
And then ya have d!ckheads like this. They didn’t have their careers ended by injury… THEY FUCK THEMSELVES! SMH 😡
PFF is so inconsistent that’s why you get these odd numbers. You cant rate Gore anything close to Drake based on where they’re at now. You’ve got the same thing with Larsen and Davis, yet PFF thinks theres a position battle.
They never see the forest for the trees. It’s all about each individual branch the way the wind blows. Okay, we’ll see.
This is an example of why I said mini camp matters. Watch RT teach Gesicki how to run a route. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lSsJ0AONiLU
RT looks like a leader now.
They didnt realize they’d miss him so bad…
Maybe that year on the sideline he became an honorary coach and now is taking it to the field.
Or maybe…..his nuts finally dropped.
Both
You never really know how important someone is until they’re gone.
Sure he’s miked up and playing to the camera, but he didn’t do anything out of character, but maybe they should Mike him up all the time in practice, it doesn’t have to be live all the time though.
They’re trying to pump him up to the fans, and I’m cool with that. They made their decision, this is his year to make or break the team. If he can play as well or better than he did in those final 8 games of ’16, we’re going to have a nice season.
Also noticed how RT was giving Gesicki advice from WR/QBs point of view.
It’s pretty obvious he’s not the same QB he was in 2016. The year off has matured him past anything he could’ve achieved playing.
Next step is to get RT thinking like Gase, as if they were an old married couple 😀
RT has been teaching his WR’s to run routes and play wide receiver since he was in college. He didn’t just become a leader since 2016, he’s been that way the whole time.
He’s been Howdy Doody in the past he shows conviction now.
MFer,
I used to pretend I was Karch Kiraly when I was a kid.
Could you spike
Same here. Karch Kiraly and Sinjin Smith were the best.
Revis Island has seceded from the NFL
That island sunk years ago. LOL
Revis Island
https://www.google.com/search?q=garbage+island+pictures&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
Revis deserves it. For a number of years there was no comp as to who was the shut down corner. And some times a window like that matters more than total stats.
He was considered the top CB in the league for a bunch of years – 7 time pro bowl and 4 time first team all-pro. It’s not all about INTs. That said not sure if he is or he isn’t.
Good question. I was going to say since he blanketed the receiver so much passes weren’t thrown his way, but Deion had a lot more. I wouldn’t think it should fall on ints, I mean if a great CB just didn’t have many int opportunities he should not be excluded for not getting many, but you have to look at it on an individual bases.
A CB that held great WRs in this era to less than 50 yards on a consistent basis and was recognized as the best in the game should have strong considerations regardless of stats.
He’s also the guy that led his team to 2 AFC Championship games.
Wait, you’re saying a CB lead his team? I thought only QBs and a running game did that. 😉
Tim,
An exception is made when the QB of the team is best known for a butt fumble
Jake Scott single handedly won two Super Bowls in the 70’s and he was a safety.
Ty Law should have been MVP of Super Bowl XXXVI. He had 8 tackles, a pick 6 for 47 yards and 2 PD. Brady won the MVP with 16-27 145 yards 1 TD. The Pats only scored 6 points in the 2nd half. Not sure how Brady was MVP.
I remember back in the day that Jerry Rice was the obvious SB MVP, but they gave it to Montana…
Big hoopla via Rice that it was a white/black thing..
That’s a tough one because both Montana and Rice were dominant in both SB’s they won together. Kind of like the chicken and the egg. Was it Montana making Rice look good, or the other way around? To me it was both but usually the nod will go to the QB. Brady was not dominant in the SB I mentioned. Ty Law was. They don’t win that game without him.
Yea, fersure Law shoulda got that one!!!
Didn’t he have a few bad career raps against him??
LOL @ Bookman
I dunno Tim, im thinking Jim Thorpe was the best athlete of all time. Multiple gold medals from the olympics, in the decathlon and pentathlon. He is in the HoF for football, and was a pro-baseballer and basketballer as well. He did all this while being held back to a good extent because he was a native american.
I also think single sport supremacy, you have to consider Michael Jordan and Ted Williams on a similar level to Gretzsky.
Thorpe was a very different era. I also said team sport.
Gretzky’s stats are so far beyond his piers. He would have more assists than the 2nd guy had in total points. Jordan and Williams’ stats were not so far beyond their piers. Both great players though.
13kv, not sure about Ty Law’s bad raps. But he was a really good corner.
mf13ss says:
July 18, 2018 at 12:32 pm
Should Darrelle Revis make the Hall of Fame, his 29 career INTs would be fewest of any cornerback who has been enshrined: Lowest amount of INTs by HOF corners:
Roger Wehrli 40
Mike Haynes 46
Jimmy Johnson 47
Herb Adderley 48
Mel Renfro 52
Deion Sanders 53
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People just stopped throwing to Revis side of the field. Ints are a bad litmus for a DB, or at least bad if used only on its own. I think Revis is considerable just in terms of dominance in his prime as these others.
One of my personal favorite CBs of all-time was Nnamdi Asomugha… the same can be said for him in terms of very rarely did a QB throw his way.
For a few years you could argue Asomugha was just as good as Revis or better. He had 8 INTs one season and teams stopped throwing his way.
Ohh he’ll Yea Law was, as was Revis!!!
Really just posted “””garbage island””” as a recycling reminder!!!
“”TWO times the size of TEXAS””” ??? OMG 😱!!!
Revis was exceptional shielding receivers on the sidelines giving them no room to get the ball. On inside routes, he was a little hands on and got away with it often. 😉
Tim Knight says:
July 18, 2018 at 2:28 pm
For a few years you could argue Asomugha was just as good as Revis or better. He had 8 INTs one season and teams stopped throwing his way.
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Absolutely agreed, Tim. Asomugha was the very definition of a shutdown CB.
He was a big corner too.
And VERY intelligent as well. He quit the game at 28 years old to pursue other interests in life. I knew he got into philanthropy, but I didn’t even know he got into acting before I dialed up his Wiki page…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nnamdi_Asomugha
OH, WOW! Just realized he married Kerry Washington!
M13, didn’t know Asomugha got into acting. Didn’t he all of sudden hit a wall and wasn’t the same player and that’s why he retired? He did play for 11 years so it’s understandable. That’s a long time in a grueling game at a very tough position to play.
Kelly Washington played Kay Amin in The Last King of Scotland which was a great movie based on a true story.
I’ve never seen that movie. I’ll check it out… thanks!
When Asomugha went to the Eagles, they played him in a zone scheme. He didn’t hit a wall, he just wasn’t a zone CB.
Shanadouche did the same thing to my man Champ Bailey after trading Clinton Portis for him. Champ sucked that year, being he, too, wasn’t a zone CB. Shanadouche changed to a man-to-man system the next season, and Champ once again flourished as he had in Washington.
I cannot say enough about the player having to fit the scheme… particularly when it comes to DBs.
Gotcha! Scheme definitely matters for many different defenders. Some can play in any scheme, some can’t because it doesn’t suit their strengths. Like Wake being a 3-4 OLB and dropping into coverage. That’s a waste of his ability. You can say the same thing about Quinn.
Precisely! You’ve got it.
It’s really hard to gauge a CB solely by INT’s, especially when opposing QB’s stop throwing in that CB’s direction. In years past, I don’t think QB’s did that. Think of it like the shift in baseball, how it’s taking away hits from pull hitters.
I think the shift sucks. It makes a slow game with barely any action even more boring.
M13, definitely check out The last King of Scotland, it’s about Ugandan dictator Idi Amin played by Forest Whitaker who is great in it. James McAvoy plays a Scottish doctor that Amin hires as his personal doctor in the 1970’s. I think you’ll love it because it’s a historical and political movie.
OH! Yes, I’m quite familiar with the historical figure Idi Amin. And I really like Forest Whitaker. I will DEFINITELY check it out. Thanks, man!
It was one of those movies that I wouldn’t have cared if it was 4 hours long. I didn’t want it to end. The story was great and the acting superb.
Tim,
I really DIG movies based on historical events. One of my faves is “Dark Prince: the True Story of Dracula” (I’ve shared this before with others). It’s not about the Halloween character, it’s about the life of Vlad Dracul III… the truth of the man, not the myth that Bram Stoker immortalized.
You can actually see where so many of the Dracula legends come from. It’s a story of the mid-century Crusades, where the Sultan and the Pope were trying to influence the far eastern regions of Europe in their power struggle.
Yep! I watched a documentary film about Vlad The Impaler. Just another ruthless tyrant.
Omar, you’re supposed to be a source for fans with accurate information. Drake was not a 2nd rd pick, that would be Howard that same year. SMH
SMH, LMAO 😆
Simple stuff, right? LOL
Yeah apparently had we taken a RB in the 2nd it was going to be Derrick Henry. The plan from what i heard was to take a CB in the first, Hargreaves or Apple and then RB in the second, but Tunsil falling to us changed that plan so we picked back up with CB in the second and RB in the third.
We got lucky we didn’t get stuck with Apple. I hated him (Jamar Fletcher) coming out last year.
A lot of legnds about vampires comes from the time of the black plagues, specifically the garlic and stake through the heart to kill them part, as well as the sun light, holy water and crosses parts, too.
Not aids, or non virgin blood
M13 the problem with movies based on historical events is that a lot of time, especially stories like Dracula or William Wallace for example is over that amount of time they have become more legend than history so when you watch the move, its nice and all but going back to research the actual event you find it to not be as pretty and romanticized as you were expecting if your basis is only the movies. A lot of what we have from those kind of historical sources is all subjective too because all you have recorded is usually from the vantage point of the few who were educated enough to record it and many times were told how to record it. Hero’s are sometimes made to look like villains in recorded history and vice versa.
Like the bible.
NFL com has an article for each team, with the 5 reasons we’ll make the playoffs, and it isn’t like going out on a limb stuff.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940722/article/five-reasons-why-the-dolphins-will-make-the-2018-nfl-playoffs%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Dmia%253Bteam%253Dmia%253Bconf%253Dafc%253Bdvsn%253Dace%253Bplyr%253Djosh_sitton%253Bplyr%253Dfranklin_gore%253Bplyr%253Drobert_quinn&sr=amp
D says:
July 18, 2018 at 4:30 pm
M13 the problem with movies based on historical events is that a lot of time, especially stories like Dracula or William Wallace for example is over that amount of time they have become more legend than history so when you watch the move, its nice and all but going back to research the actual event you find it to not be as pretty and romanticized as you were expecting if your basis is only the movies…
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Quite correct, which is why I like movies based on true HISTORY (and books), not the histrionics of liberal Hollywood.
Sometimes… Hollywood movies don’t go political and they just tell the story. All movies are screenplays for entertainment purposes, not all hardcore facts. Hollywood always wants a love story or a parent saving their child aspect even if it wasn’t part of the real story. You can read/see between the lines though. 🙂
Some movies are really well done and others that try to push an agenda come up lame and we all see it, even the ones who want to agree with it. Forced bullshit isn’t good for anyone.
Absolutely, man. Again, I really do like movies based on TRUE history. There’s no doubt that there is some form of sensationalism in these movies, but the truer they are to historical documents, the MORE I love them.
Me too!
Steve, I like Howard over Apple and Drake over Henry who I don’t think will last long the way he runs. Drake is a quick – look for daylight type runner, where Henry smashes into people. We’ll see who is more productive over the long haul.
Wait….
You tellin me History of the World 1 and 2 isn’t accurate?
😆
I would do nearly ANYTHING to get “History of World, Part II”, made!!! 😀
It better happen soon as Mel is 92, but as you say, that would be grand!! 🙂
HELL YEAH, BROTHER!!! 😀
No way…those are true moves!
I hope y’all understand why I’ve been frustrated with the way we draft (long, big DBs to play man-to-man/jam-ball), vs the way we play (PREDOMINANTLY zone, off ball coverage).
The dysfunction between management/coaching/players is most palpable, to put it lightly. But once we began to play more man-to-man late in the season, we saw phenomenal results (see Xavien Howard, as one mere example).
Ya DON’T draft big, man-to-man DBs to play in a zone scheme, DAMMIT! Omar Kelly disagrees with this assessment, but he is what he is… a rodeo clown who fully supports Colin Kaepernick’s actions. Omar still supports Seanathan Smith playing in a zone scheme, while he’s in jail, SMH.
Mike E. – I’m pretty much certain for the MetLife Takeover. Anybody heard from Pigs? He’s been absent…must have found himself a shapely little sow.
I think he took the summer off and is focusing on his practice. I wish him well.
Good for him.
Well shit…..what am I thinking part 2 is? Lol
Either way…I have to reevaluate everything now that I learned it isn’t accurate…..
There is a part 2
H e just never made it.
Ha!
Just hit me I was thinking of Oh God, book 2. I think they were about the same time….I was just a kid so cut me some slack! LOL
3 Studs!
I wish the best for Jim Kelly. He was a great QB and competitor. The Dolphins weren’t good enough to beat them when it mattered. It was still fun being in the mix. Geez… get over yourselves, fair and square. LOL
All 3 were great!
Didn’t give any disrespect?
The rookies went today
Jags 16 – 0 ??
Hey Malik, FO’GEDA’BOUD’IT !!!
Even if you’re 14 – 0 goin into week 16!!!
You gotta go through Miami,
And the Magic of the UNDEFEATED DOLPHINS
Won’t allow it on Miami Turf!!!
Not the 85 Bears, or the inner state o18 Jags, FO’GEDA’BOUD’IT !!!
GOFINS!!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940821/article/malik-jackson-on-jaguars-in-2018-im-callin-it-160
Damn straight they’ll have to go through us.
That puts a lot of pressure on a team when you have someone doing that. We’ll see. If they do come in undefeated wow what a game that will be.
History of World Part 1 , they embellished the characters but they followed real history. It stands up as a guide or cliff notes through history. Lol
de Monet! de Monet!
“Hump or death, hump or death”!!! 😆
Bring out your dead
LMAO!!!!
(( Year One )) was a hilarious subliminal backhand to history…
Cane & Able story was too funny!!!
Jack Black to Abraham
“”You’re gonna cut off the tip of my what”””
LMAO throughout!!!
Phelon – I haven’t spoken to Piggy. Jets game is 9/16. I think I might be able to make it.
Lol @ Jags going undefeated. They still have Bortles at QB right?
LOL, ah yes… the prophets of the NFL. What happens when the Jags go 8-8 in 2018? LOL
That is Josh Sitton in Pitch Perfect 2
Yep. Had to hear about all the Packers….
Still nothing compared to Ace Ventura.
Bills O the league’s thinnest group..
WHAT, No mention of any Dolphin group ??
How’Dare’Ye…
GOFINS!!!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940778/article/nfls-thinnest-position-groups-bills-offense-shallowest
“””Stars are great but depth drives championships”””
ABOVE; Don’t have an upward pointing arrow on phone… 😏
Mike – Piggy was going to look into tickets. I’m game for whatever.
So on NFLN James Jones and MJD combine to give us an 11-5 season , including Fest Win, MetLife TO Win, And MJD picking a Win on the Frozen Tundra … all games that will be well attended by FMers … lets go FINS … some nationals starting to come around
I’m sure Mr. Piggles will return here at some point, then we’ll get an idea of whether he’s still planning on going to the MetLife Takeover or not
ElephantRider says:
July 18, 2018 at 8:42 pm
Lol @ Jags going undefeated. They still have Bortles at QB right?
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Tim Knight says:
July 18, 2018 at 9:03 pm
LOL, ah yes… the prophets of the NFL. What happens when the Jags go 8-8 in 2018? LOL
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They also have a running game
So do the 2018 Miami Dolphins
remains to be seen
not sure why you would think this as we certainly did not have an effective running game in 2017, maybe Gore makes a difference but if you think Drake can do it refer to 2017.
8.2 avg yards to go on 2nd down after drake carries avg 1.8 yards on 1st down.
adding long runs to his avg can be misleading if you think he’s your feature RB
2016’s Dolphins 10-6 rushed for 423 fewer yards than their opponents who had 58 more attempts !!!
GOFINS!!!
170 fewer plays overall…
404 rush attempts for 1824 yards (with just 3 special games from A-WHO) while the rest were basically Ho-hum-him…
I believe that o18’s RB’s will easily match o16’s rush yardage totals,
And look out if (with a set 5 at OL since June) they can match the 14 rush TD total of o16!!!.
GOFINS!!!
Got TE’s, and far many more versatile options at WR,
And our QB is back !!!
Rob – Last year we didn’t have Gore or Ballage. Also, Drake will have a full season to show what he can do. Additionally, we improved the O-line run blocking with Sitton and Kilgore
This is the first year I can remember knowing who are penciled in as the starting 5 on the OL before TC.
We thought we knew last year, then Larsen went down.
I guess but the guards were more suggested than penciled in.