For 2018, the Miami Dolphins will definitely have a new look on the defensive line, especially at defensive end. Most notably, on March 2nd, the Dolphins traded for Rams DE Robert Quinn, sending a 4th RD pick and swapped 6th RD picks to the Rams. What the Dolphins are probably hoping for is the 10.5 sacks he achieved in ’14 as a true DE, or the 19 sacks he got in 2013, but the Dolphins would love something in between the two. Cam Wake returns at the age of 36, but we all know and understand that Wake treats his body like a temple, and is in prime physical condition. Charles Harris will be entering his 2nd season, and although he won’t be a starter, the theme at DT also applies to DE, so there will be plenty of rotation going on, and Charles Harris will get plenty of opportunities to show some improvement. Also returning this season is Andre Branch, who had a down season last year as he was maligned by minor injuries. William Hayes also returns, and although he was also hampered by injuries last season, Hayes continues to be a productive player in run support and is probably our best edge setter.
Robert Quinn RDE – 6’4 250
Although we will be rotating players often, Robert Quinn will likely be starting on the right side. If Quinn is healthy, specifically his back, he could be a huge help to the Dolphins defense. Last season used as an OLB in the Rams 3-4 alignment, Quinn managed 8.5 sacks, along with 32 total tackles with 2 FF’s and 2 FR’s. If Quinn can give the Dolphins production like he had in 2013 or 2014, this defense will be significantly better than last year. Unfortunately, it’s been 4 years since he’s done that, but I admire the Dolphins gamble on the former All-Pro DE.
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William Hayes LDE – 6’3 278
Hayes played in 10 games for the Dolphins last season and although he didn’t start, he’s our best run defending end. Hayes will also play some DT, and he will do that on obvious passing downs to give the defense some more of a rush from the middle. Whether he starts or not is unimportant, Hayes will definitely be leaned on for help on the DL, whether it’s at LE or DT.
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Andre Branch RDE – 6’5 263
Branch had 14 starts last year, but as I previously mentioned, he is 2017 season was marred by minor injuries. Branch’s tackle total dropped from almost 50 to 23, and his sack total was down from 5.5 to 4.5. The Dolphins would be happy with his 2016 production or better, and if healthy, Branch may well be the starter, as they save Robert Quinn for pass rush duties.
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Charles Harris RDE – 6’3 250
Last year’s first RD pick showed some potential although overall it was not an overwhelmingly successful season. While the rookie showed some explosive get off, he managed only 2 sacks, but did get 23 QB hurries. This season, some of those hurries need to turn into sacks. The Dolphins have enough talent at DE that Hayes won’t need to be leaned on heavily, but there’s no question they need to bring him along from last season. The 23YO will definitely get his pass rushing chances, but he will also get some work in the run game too. It’s time for Harris to start developing into a complete player, and not just a pass rush specialist.
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Cameron Malveaux DE – 6’5 276
The big Houston Cougars DE showed some flashes last season, mostly in preseason action. He definitely has good size, and the 2 sport athlete (Basketball, Football) has the athleticism to play DE. The 2017 UDFA will get his shot to make the team, but the considerable depth after the Quinn trade will make it more difficult. At worst, Malveaux is a developmental player worthy of the PS.
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Jonathan Woodard DE – 6’6 271
Woodard was a 2016 7th RD draft pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jaguars cut him, and then the Atlanta Falcons picked him up and put him on the PS only to release him from the PS which enabled the Dolphins to pick him up and place him on the Dolphins PS. Woodard recorded 15 sacks in 24 (16 starts) games at Central Arkansas, so he certainly made the most of his opportunities there. Another DE with the right size and athleticism who needs to be brought along and developed. Not to be repetitive, but with the current depth, Woodard faces a high climb to make the team.
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Claudy Mathieu DE – 6’6 250
The former California-Pennsylvania and Notre Dame (Ohio) Falcons player came into the NFL last season as a 25YO rookie. Another player will excellent physical traits, but a long way to go to being a finished product. The Dolphins picked up Mathieu as an UDFA this season. At the moment, Mathieu is a longshot to make the cut.
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Quincy Redmon DE – 6’5 240
Redmon was signed by the Dolphins as a 2018 UDFA. The former Fairmont College Fighting Falcon DE was a 2016 was named All-MEC 1st team defensive lineman with 52 total tackles and 12 sacks. Injuries sidelined Redmon in 2017 as a Senior as he missed the final 5 games. Another athletic specimen who faces an uphill climb to make the roster.
Finsmob Unleashed 
LOL @ morning show with hot chick and 3 dicks.
Landry’s TDs were all less than 10 yds which indicates good play design and should be easy to replace. It’s not like Landry was out there creating these TDs with RAC and/or breaking people off in the open field.
Although I do remember that sweet 60-70 yd Td he broke the year before. But that was not the norm from him.
The one where he basically ran about 120 yards, all across the field?
lol, that’s the one
that’s the play that had Benny Hill music playing while he ran all over?
LOL
Kong – It was 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs8AIsvurb0
That was it. There was also the one he caught the ball about 5 yds past the LOS, ran east to west, broke some tackles, then took it up the sideline. Not sure that was a TD though. I think that one was about more than 70 yds if memory serves.
Anyway, screw that jerk. It will be nice if our offense rolls this year and doesn’t miss him one bit. #AlbertWilson
Yup, that was 2016 against Arizona, it was maybe a 60-70YD pass play, was taken down at the 5 yard line
That one was also a Fest game and it rained and Rock cried.
first time we ever beat them SOB’s! The total DOMINATION in the first half was just overwhelming for me. I had to have a cathartic cry.
Yo Rock, I’m having a brain fart over at my place..
LC3 ???
Leonte Carroo – AKA LC3, like Daniel Thomas is DT3, 3 picks to get him
AHHH, Thanks Mike, I’ll spread the word 😁
Leonte Carroo 3 draft picks
LC3, got it, thanks…
Though just more ammo for the unsavory types…
Phelon – Definitely worth going there, good article, and nice group of people there too.
http://www.dolphinshout.com/2018/07/miami-dolphins-projected-5365-man.html
LOL @ This from Thephinsider:
“That face you make when you hear a monster behind you, but you’re too afraid to look.”
who is Claudy Mathieu? The scared guy above^^
Three dicks and a hot chick… sounds like a scene from a porno.
Tim Knight says:
July 23, 2018 at 2:35 pm
I thought he had his leg replaced. LOL
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He had it amputated after the 5th injury to it and now has a prosthetic. He said something about going back and getting the other one amputated soon because he doesn’t like not having a matching pair. That will be his 25th surgery.
LOL @D 😜 !!!
that is why I said not to google it! LOL
D says:
July 23, 2018 at 4:38 pm
Tim Knight says:
July 23, 2018 at 2:35 pm
I thought he had his leg replaced. LOL
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He had it amputated after the 5th injury to it and now has a prosthetic. He said something about going back and getting the other one amputated soon because he doesn’t like not having a matching pair. That will be his 25th surgery.
LOL
I don’t know what the hell is wrong with me. I’m over at 13kvFINS’ site feeding the troll. SMH
herdfan says:
July 23, 2018 at 10:21 pm
What the hell is with you guys? I know I posted on here about fang/Gary passing away. There was even discussion about who he was, the Dolphin Shout blog. It’s like talking to my mother, she doesn’t remember a thing after I tell her.
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I remember that. I remembered it when KV mentioned it happened on the Sunday we played/beat the pats a few years back. I remember you had come in an posted that and right after that i read this post. I got your back Herd even if these senile old fellas cant remember.
For the sharks divers:
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/07/23/shark-shocker-20-foot-great-white-deep-blue-caught-on-camera.html
Seen this before. That white is gigantic though. M13 would hang outside the cage like that diver. LOL
The shark wouldn’t be able to see him thru the cloud of brown water.
LOL, no doubt. The shark would be like what the hell is this shit and leave.
13kvFINS says:
July 23, 2018 at 2:44 pm
Our site over there had a bunch of Veterans that outright quit on the Dolphins & Shout last year because of the Anthem BS !!!
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Man that is silly as anything. Assume some of those are the ones who wrote all the other articles along with you.
A couple players could burn the flag before each game and I would still be watching them, even if would make my position clear that they should get suspended.
” morning show with hot chick and 3 dicks.” And one player coming to TC will come equipped with a dick that has the “inside info” on her. 🙂
You naughty boy you. LOL
Wait, who?
Amendola used to date Kay Adams
Lucky Phucker
I didn’t know that
I fell asleep before I could see how Rhonda Rousy feared against the Makos.
Shark Week, you guys are watching, right? Shaq was pretty good.
Yea SOS, GoodStuff!!!
Rhonda did great too!!!
No Stanger, “””all those other writers”” other than our founder & Co-founder were never serious about writing, most of those folks are still around/commenting come football seasons..
Our founder was a teenager, and has since discovered girls/women so he fell off the planet, and is actually engaged now some ten years after founding the Shout..
Our Co-founder Gary Cowbell/Fang/RiverDog passed on a night that we whipped up on the Pats some 5 or so years ago.. He was very popular at the Shout, and his passing took all the wind out of our sails for quite sometime!!!
Some others have disappeared of late because, well you know,
but they too will hopefully return once we kick’it’off…
Only Patrick and I have written articles there for many years now!!!
APPRECIATE you guys chiming in, and enlightening those who remain of your thoughts on the Dolphins/whatever!!!
Though fuel to a fire is what you endup with, and my people are able to see through the transparency, it’s all good cuz I who doesn’t indulge has been taking a thrashing, and though my folks know who/what I am about, when strangers drop in, they’re led to having a bad taste about me cuz of
Beatle Juice Beatle Juice Beatle _ _ _ _ _
Hope you good people will continue visiting,
and conversing with THE GOOD FOLKS AT THE SHOUT!!!
GOFINS!!!
Gary Cowell, (not cowbell) for Robs sake 😜
13kv, that’s certainly a sister, brother in this case, site. Most of the guys there were all at the SS, in it’s heyday. We’ve always considered you and most of those guys part of this group we’re all trying to keep together. Lots of those guys were at Tins site too (another guy who grew up lol).
Sad about Fang I didn’t know that. Good dude.
Back @Ya SOS/Mob, and THANK YOU, MUCH APPRECIATED are such kind words!!!
“”‘I don’t wanna grow up, I’m a toys/Dolphins are us kid”””
GOFINS!!!
What is the URL again? I may come just to fuck with Homes occasionally.
Lol
Too late Phelo, DUMPED HIS INSANE ASS!!!
He got real angry with Mob participants,
Which was exactly what I was hoping for,
and said a bunch’a threatening stuff that warranted his dismissal!!!
“””HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, La, HERE AGAIN””!!!
And football season hasn’t even started,
Yeee Haaa, GIGGITY,
GOFINS!!!
WOOOOOOO F’ing HOOOOO!!!
THANKS GUYS!!!
“””DONT’CHA’JUST’LOVE’WHEN’A’PLAN’COMES’TOGETHER”””???
WHEEWWW, TOTAL RELIEF!!!
Phelo, it’s Dolphin Shout if’Ya care to read my piece,
The link was posted up above somewhere via me…
Beatle Juice and his comments have been deleted!!!
Tinshaker and his wife had just had a baby – he received some ugly emails and said fuck this as he moved to a new western state for business. I wish him and his family well, I loved his sense of humor.
Agreed very funny guy
We need to get Twice to get your link posted above 13k
??? SOS
Can you fix whatever you’re suggesting???
Wow, too bad. (_)3 to Fang. I hadn’t heard that either.
I liked Tin’s blog too he was a good dude.
Oh wow I missed that Fang passed. RIP
Yea Rock, Knight, Kong & others to mention,
T’was indeed a sad day when Gary/Fang/RiverDog passed!!!!!
WHIPPING UP ON THE PATS WAS JUST TOO MUCH EXCITEMENT FOR HIS HEART!!!
I was sooo looking forward to his comments the next day,
but got the tearful heartbreaking news instead, GREAT GUY,
and actually a same city neighbor of mine, mingled a few times together in person, STILL MISS HIM BADD!!!
RIP Gary!!!
U & TonyS get together and pull some strings for our Dolphins, K !!!
Hey you guys that fueled the fire today, THANK-YOU!!!
T’WAS what we needed to warrant making the Shout a safe place again!!!
PLEASE drop by whenever you like, “”This House Is Clean”” again!!!
Enter
PARADE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO MOB, GO SHOUT!!!
GOFINS!!!
Well shit…sounds like you removed my reason.
Na Bro, it’s a good piece 😏
GOFINS!!!
LOL @ Beetlejuice. Sometimes it takes me a minute to figure you out, but when I do I always get a kick out of what you’re saying.
Also bummed to hear of Fang’s passing.
Good article KV!
Disipointed I couldn’t agitate Home! 🙂
LOL @ Kong & Wyo !!!
Yea Kong, I’m kind of a subliminal joker with good intent!!!
Phelon – it’s a good article, and the people there are cool as well. Check it out.
http://www.dolphinshout.com/2018/07/miami-dolphins-projected-5365-man.html
Poor guy was a ticking time bomb. I really liked that guy. I have his autograph on a football.
Same here, Son… I really liked that guy, too.
Man I’m getting jacked on some FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great another year of hype for a future freaking bill
Not his fault!
Oh and these guy’s too!
I saw a piece today, can’t remember where, about Jaymis Pittman from UCF. He gonna make some noise. He should be able to play inside and out.
What the hell is with you guys? I know I posted on here about fang/Gary passing away. There was even discussion about who he was, the Dolphin Shout blog. It’s like talking to my mother, she doesn’t remember a thing after I tell her.
lol sorry
Senior moment (for all of us lol)
LMAO Lisa/Herd 😂 ROF !!!
Yea, wr mourned our loss for a loonnngggg time,
Still do actually as some still post his quotes periodically,
while others remind us yearly on the date of his passing,
He touched a lot of folks via his nimble fingers, & outlook on life!!!
“”””It’s peculiar that New England would be actively shopping Mitchell with Julian Edelman’s four-game suspension considered, but then again, the unconventional is starting to become the norm for the Patriots.””””
Becoming desperate for final run are they??
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000941558/article/patriots-seeking-partner-for-malcolm-mitchell-trade
Hey NFL teams, give them NADDA!!!
How stupid and/or desperate do the Pats believe the rest of the league to be??
Only as stupid or desperate as whatever team gives them so much as a a UDFA of the future for a 4th round injury prone receiver that they’ll endup cutting anyways!!!
JUST SAY NO TO THUGS!!!
They think the rest of the league is really stupid, and keep proving it time after time, on every transaction.
I’ve been saying don’t trade with them at all for years, but mo one is listening.
Teams trade and help the Patriots like MLB teams trade and help the Yankees all the time. I’ll never understand it.
13kvFINS says:
July 24, 2018 at 12:48 am (Edit)
Yea, wr mourned our loss for a loonnngggg time,
Still do actually as some still post his quotes periodically,
while others remind us yearly on the date of his passing,
He touched a lot of folks via his nimble fingers, & outlook on life!!!
He was a truly nice person. We were also friends on Facebook and from time to time I see a memory pop up related to him. I still hear from his wife occasionally but not lately now that I think of it. Hope all is well with her.
😁 Herd !!!
How long has it been ,5 years??
D says:
July 24, 2018 at 10:27 am
herdfan says:
July 23, 2018 at 10:21 pm
What the hell is with you guys? I know I posted on here about fang/Gary passing away. There was even discussion about who he was, the Dolphin Shout blog. It’s like talking to my mother, she doesn’t remember a thing after I tell her.
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I remember that. I remembered it when KV mentioned it happened on the Sunday we played/beat the pats a few years back. I remember you had come in an posted that and right after that i read this post. I got your back Herd even if these senile old fellas cant remember.
I never knew Fang, I first met everyone around 2010. I am a senile old fella though
Had heard of Fang, but don’t think ever saw him comment (maybe cause he started that place).
You were at least involved in 2008 on the SS board. Not that I am rain man on dates, but some of my first comments were on whether we should draft Jake Long…. and you were one of the first ones to recognize that I’d actually said something along with M13.
I don’t think so Stanger – Unless I just can’t remember before 2010, I remember being on the SS first when the draft of 2010 was coming, and I wanted Brandon Graham, and Piggy’s handle was Draft McClain. I could be wrong, but that’s when I thought I started, I’m not positive though
You could be right. I was thinking the first people to welcome me on board were M13 and you, but it could have been the other NJ instead. Imagine how tough these things are gonna be to sort out when we are all posting from old folks homes. 🙂
steveccnv says:
July 24, 2018 at 9:06 am
They think the rest of the league is really stupid, and keep proving it time after time, on every transaction.
I’ve been saying don’t trade with them at all for years, but mo one is listening.
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Part of me wonders if other teams think they are going to gleen a bit of knowledge from those players into why the Pats system works so well. I dont know what the big deal is, the secret is he gets them all to do their own individual job and with all of them doing it the team does well. He might be a principal, but he has his kids in line, and however he is doing it works.
I would be somewhat abashed for not remembering the news of Fang’s passing, but to be honest I don’t even remember what I had for breakfast an hour ago.
LMAO @ Stanger! Yeah, tough ain’t the word
The nurses keep stealing my meds, cigs, & keyboard
LOL! Don’t they have access to the meds w/o stealing yours? Damn them!
“Gesicki has a ton of athleticism, which could translate into playmaking talent in time, but it’s possible that the Dolphins might have to wait on him to adjust to the speed of the NFL game.”
That’s Omar’s take in his TE article…. call me skeptical but think that was just to drive tweets. Would put out a link but not even worth the read other than to learn that Derby and Gray were both QBs in college. That could lead to come trick plays.
I agree – He seems to think Escobar , Gray and Derby will be the TE’s and Gesicki and Smythe are projects that are at least a year away
And one thing there is no doubt of in the world is that Smythe is here to do what he is gonna do and ready to do it. And not talking about catching passes.
Yep, but it’s possible Gray is there now, because he’s also a pretty good blocker, but Smythe might start pretty fast, especially if he blocks like did at ND
I remember fang / riverdog from either the SS or Tinsfins. I may have been on break when Herd informed us of his passing or just missed the post due to page turn. Either way, by my faulty memory he was a good dude and I felt loss hearing about his passing.
I am going over to the articles on PBP now to see if Beetlejuice is losing is mind at us and KV on their crappy blog section.
I must say, I was flattered to discover that the troll was still following my exploits (or lack there of) on here and keeping track of life events of someone he has never met. (trying to dog on me at KV’s site about my divorce and giving her a house) Home, get a life man.
Results Rock??
Mike E. says:
July 24, 2018 at 11:40 am
LOL! Don’t they have access to the meds w/o stealing yours? Damn them!
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Yeah but that shit is monitored both by supervisors and by computers that its almost impossible for them to get away with it. If they steal it from some senile old dude who thinks he is 17 and back in the 30’s its a helluva lot easier to get away with since the dispensing and accounting is over with,
Hmmm, I guess you’re right
All I know is they peak in the door throw me some dog biscuits that they know I can’t chew without my teeth (which they also keep stealing), and tell me to shut up and suck on my dog biscuit meds
That’ll be old folks home experience…
Actually minus insurance, probably be living under a bridge eating dog biscuits alongside my dog…
Wooo Hooo Freedom!!!
Man Josh Gordon must be something special??
o12 supplemental pick with just 40 games played in 6. years, kicked out the league however many times, and still on the team that selected him…
#14 might be forced to catch 300 plus bubble screens this year for a negative average…
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000941508/article/browns-to-place-josh-gordon-on-nfi-list-before-camp
He has serious talent, game changing talent
I remember Fang having posted in the past, but he wasn’t around the SS for long… or at least from the time I arrived from Topix back in ’08. I’m sure I communicated with him, but hardly got to know him at all. Sucks to hear of his passing, regardless.
RIP, Fang
KV May be able to correct me on this but I think his screen name fang actually stood for fan G and not a long pointy tooth. He may have even had it as fanG for fan G(ary). I e missed you guys. Ive been working like a maniac, literally doing two jobs and paid for one. At the beach this week and already buzzed so please excuse typos and incoherent posts. The sun is in my eyes! 🌞 🏖 🍹
Sun spelled R-U-M
LOL Mike!!!
ENJOY Lisa 🍹 !!!
Gray was a quarterback for Minnesota but he wasn’t a good one. He actually played very little at quarterback. He’s probably more of an h-back than a tight end, but I don’t want to start that whole argument again!
No argument here, We used Gray very much like an h-back, he even blocked in the backfield like an h-back.
I think we’re past Gray being a QB and know what he is for us. He’s shown the ability to line up and TE, H-back and FB. He’s also shown to be a good short yardage runner and he’s a core STs player.
The same for Derby, he’s been developing as a TE since he was drafted in 2015 by the Pats in the 6th round. The coaches seem to like his potential.
D, on teams trading with the cheats, none of the players will ever be able to give up the secrets of their success, because only belicheat knows them.
When their OC was set to become the Colts HC, belicheat met with him and said, if you stay I’ll show you everything .
This leads to speculation the big cheats days are numbered. I give him 2019 as the latest that he’ll coach.
MikeE,
I just meant the whole “what’s an HB versus a TE” debate we’ve had around here for years. I think Gray could be an asset in short yardage situations.
Gotcha
I got him on the 52 with 3 TE’s…
Would have put him as the starter,
But HAD to start Gesicki, (which may be accurate )
But
There WAS an individual at my spot that has already been ragging hard on Gesicki since drafting him instead of the other small school TE..
Anytime the Dolphins draft a guy that’s not his absolute favorite,
An instant decade long hatred would surface against the guy the Dolphins did pick!!!
Like Gray a Lot, and kinda hoping to keep a 4th TE,
But that 53rd spot (according to my roster) could be filled by one of many positional players!!!
GOFINS!!!
I think we keep at least 4 TEs, and maybe 5 depending on how far along Duarte and the rookies are, if Gesicki looks good it might be bad news for Duarte, even if he looks good.
13kvFINS says:
July 24, 2018 at 12:18 pm
Results Rock??
Reply
PBP must be in the Doldrums as well. The “Daily Dolphin” hasn’t had a post in 4 days and there are no comments going back a week or more so I stopped.
Makes you wonder about what some of guys go through to play the game. Joe Thomas has lost 50 pounds since officially retiring. “You just don’t eat until you feel like you’re going to throw up at every meal and all of a sudden the weight falls right of.”
Yeah man, the lineman have to maintain that weight. Look at Shaun O’Hara, he doesn’t look like a C/G anymore.
And Thomas has always been smart as they come, which might include retiring early. Am sure he knows that is the way to set up his health for the future. All hearts are pretty much the same size.
I eat like that now . . . Almost
Mike E. says:
July 24, 2018 at 11:38 am
I agree – He seems to think Escobar , Gray and Derby will be the TE’s and Gesicki and Smythe are projects that are at least a year away
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I think Gray makes it because he is the best we have that can give us a traditional FB role player when we need one, without losing the versatility of a offensive weapon. I kind of wouldnt mind also keeping Escobar but i just dont see us carrying 5 TE’s and i really feel Smythe and Gesicki are locks for the 53.
Derby is a lock as well i am pretty sure.
And that’s exactly why Jarvis should be paid as a SLOT receiver… not a boundary receiver. I’m happy we let him walk.
How many zeroes will it allow me to post? Your post times 1 and that many zeroes.
wait, you mean you are not supposed to keep eating until you feel like you are going to throw up? I thought that was normal.
That’s how you’re supposed to train not eat. That’s why you’re an armchair QB, like the rest of us.
Aaron Donald must be SEETHING right now.
Man the Steelers are backed in a corner now.
steveccnv says:
July 24, 2018 at 12:40 pm
D, on teams trading with the cheats, none of the players will ever be able to give up the secrets of their success, because only belicheat knows them.
When their OC was set to become the Colts HC, belicheat met with him and said, if you stay I’ll show you everything .
This leads to speculation the big cheats days are numbered. I give him 2019 as the latest that he’ll coach.
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I dont really think there is a secret lol. I think people just assume there is some hidden handbook, some sort of super secret recipe and that people who have played for him know something. I definaely feel like you do and realize the secret is Belichick.
I agree as well 2019, 2020…. but it isnt far off. I know he isnt going to want to rebuild the entire thing so if they dont have an heir for Brady by the time Brady hangs it up, Belichick is hanging it up the same time as Brady. Thats going to set the pats back a decade at least.
Only thing i can think of when it comes to the idea of Belichick staying after Brady is that Belichick might want to set the record straight and show he can win with another QB. He can settle the argument and prove it was him all along. Im just not sure at this point he wants to suffer through a losing season if he doesn’t have a legit QB prospect to step in.
He doesnt have a lot left to accomplish anyways, he’s pretty much the GOAT, definitely the GOAT of modern football. Ill be very glad when he decides he wants to walk away.
He’s setting McDaniels up to continue his legacy, by giving him the scoop on drafting, trades, and how he runs things.
I don’t expect a big fall off after bill and Ted (tom) leave, but it will be enough that we can actually win a division once in a while.
steveccnv says:
July 24, 2018 at 1:42 pm
I think we keep at least 4 TEs, and maybe 5 depending on how far along Duarte and the rookies are, if Gesicki looks good it might be bad news for Duarte, even if he looks good.
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I dont think Duarte ever makes the team. He isnt dynamic as a receiver and he doesnt offer almost anything as a blocking TE. He probably would be a better slot receiver, but right now we are pretty solid there as well. He just doesnt have a good way to get on this team with the guys thats in front of him. Obviously the coaching staff doesn’t think greatly of him, because they used two picks on TE’s. If they had more confidence in him they wouldn’t have picked two. I think Escobar has a better chance f making the team than Duarte. I have really wanted to see him out there. I was pretty excited when they drafted him to see what he could do, i just dont think its ever, or ever will work out for him with us.
That’s what I’ve thought all along on Duarte, but I’ve heard he actually has a chance to make the team, so that’s why I added him.
stangerx says:
July 24, 2018 at 1:47 pm
Makes you wonder about what some of guys go through to play the game. Joe Thomas has lost 50 pounds since officially retiring. “You just don’t eat until you feel like you’re going to throw up at every meal and all of a sudden the weight falls right of.”
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It will for the first little bit, but if he doesnt keep at the workout regimen his muscles will start to atrophy and all that is going to slow down and eventually the amount he is eating is going to be too much for the amount of muscle mass and then the fat comes. Also if he is losing it that fast, a lot of that is muscle he is losing from not working out so hard.
So in other words he’s probably a fat slob who weighs less than he used to but looks worse anyway?
No, my guess is looks a lot smaller than he use to, the fat slob part will come later if he decides to not keep at his workouts.
No there are some pics of him out there where he just looks slimmer. The guy is 6-6 and was never overweight. But instead of weighing say 315 he’s 265 which is a healthier weight. He’s been losing this weight for probably 8 months when he went down with a season ending triceps injury in October.
D – was just a few years older than him when stopped playing rugby. Went from 205 to 180 in about the same time frame. Not as much as he lost but then was never 300+ either. Think it a natural change when you stop training. Seems what you do with it after that is up to you.
I’m an out of shape slob at this point, but Mike E is like a fitness model (relatively). So he at least knows how to make it work.
Thats because he inherited his mom’s girlish figure….
You’re too kind Stanger
I did say “relatively” 🙂
This is what I said in my Camp Battles – TE article, and I still feel this way
“At the moment of this writing, the Dolphins have 6 tight ends on the roster, but realistically, at most we will carry 4, and even more likely 3. The two guaranteed to stick are the most recent draftees, 2nd RD pick Mike Gesicki and 4th RD pick Durham Smythe. After Gesicki and Smythe, the coaches seem to really like A.J. Derby who was picked up last season after DEN waived him. There is also 5 YR veteran MarQueis Gray, and recent pickup Gavin Escobar who played for the Cowboys for 4 seasons. Also still hanging around is Thomas Duarte, Dolphins 2016 7th RD draft pick. We have better depth at TE than any time in recent memory, and this should be a fun battle to see play out because the 3rd and possibly 4th spots should be really competitive.”
I agree 4, a to me that 4 is Derby, Smythe, Gesicki, and Gray. Like i said though i kind of hope for 5 and keeping Escobar, i just dont see where we could cut from to keep 5, and if i had to cut one from those 5 its going to be Escobar and not Gray for the simple fact of his versatility.
Agreed with your top 4 TEs. Not sure we keep 5.
I am in perfect shape. Here is a perfect representation of my perfect shape.
Damn and here i was certain it was this…
ha ha?
sure 🙂
D — you should just come one year and meet the crew. Bunch of not real pretty people, but then they are folks who got together off the internet. 🙂
The Rams better be careful they are spending like crazy. Suh, and they just extended Cooks, and Gurley on mega contracts. They have Andrew Whitworth (LT)on a top contract thats also up after 2019. They have Lamarcus Joyner on FT this year so they need to work out a contract with him, they have Aaron Donald they need to work out a contract extension with, same with Michael Brockers. Aquib Talib is on a show me witht hem so if they want to keep him they would have to find some money for that too. I think the Rams have this year to make a legit shot at things and next year they are going to be purging players big time.
If Goff continues to play well he’s going to be the highest paid QB in a few years. It’s just the way it goes. That’s what kind of sucks about having too many top players.
The Rams were 5th best in the league against the run last season giving up an average of 122.3 yards per game. Anyone want to take a bet that this number will go up with Suh next to Donald this year?
They were 28th against the run, not 5th best. LOL
duh, Sorted wrong, fifth worst. question stands. I don’t believe Suh will help them.
Not sure but they transitioned to a 3-4 defense last year and will continue this year so maybe they didn’t have the right personnel yet.
https://twitter.com/BigPlayMcCray_9/status/1021779619245174784
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Our rookie just retired.
Can you retire from something you never actually started?
That’s contingent upon one’s perspective, but I DO hear ya.
Hey if he’s not passionate about playing the game, he shouldn’t.
Absolutely correct.
And there’s no harm and no foul being he was an UDFA.
He can so whatever he wants… but reading that made me think of what Jonathan Martin should have put out.
if Johnathan Martin had put out, Richie Incognito may not have been so mean to him…..
LOL Stanger, you certainly did qualify it. 🙂
Who is Mike McCray? I guess good luck to him, though he was a long shot to even make the practice squad.
I think Belicheat wants Shula’s wins record and would love to prove he can win without Brady. I don’t have anything to back that up, I just feel these things likely motivate him to continue.
I REALLY hope you guys are right in that he’ll retire in the next couple years, but it would surprise me.
stangerx says:
July 24, 2018 at 3:43 pm
He can so whatever he wants… but reading that made me think of what Jonathan Martin should have put out.
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I don’t know about that, man. I think Martin was all good until he got bullied at the pro level… he likely was never bullied before, unless it was in elementary school.
But what is CLEAR is that Martin had some issues and was soft. I’m not sure comparing McCray to Martin is accurate in this case. People are different.
When Martin was arrested not long ago with weapons and making statements about people he might want to harm, it was suggested it was because he was bullied in the past.
Yeah, he intimated he’d been bullied before for sure
My only point was that turned out how to be how Martin felt after a lot of years. Seemed to me McCray was smart enough to decide that football was not what he wanted to do given who he was and his options. Could not respect that any more.
And as to Martin, keep in mind he had NFL problems in the NFL and personally after he left the Phins. Was also born to a power family and went to an elite high school. He came from a Harvard generation schooled family. And yes people are different. Wasn’t saying McCray was Martin other than less than full desire for football.
Tim Knight says:
July 24, 2018 at 3:42 pm
Not sure but they transitioned to a 3-4 defense last year and will continue this year so maybe they didn’t have the right personnel yet.
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Did they really? Huh! It would seem that they still don’t have the right personnel with Suh and Donald as the DT’s. I thought I remembered reading that Suh didn’t ever want to play NT and I don’t see 6′ nothing 284 lb Donald as a classic NT either.
He’s like Chuck Klingbeil’s size
I think Suh agreed to play some NT but it’s possible they move their DL around. One of the reasons the Rams traded us Quinn is because they don’t believe he’s a 3-4 OLB even though he had 8.5 sacks. But he’s more of a classic 4-3 DE that fits our defense.
I see Suh listed as 313 on the rams website. That’s 12lbs more than he was listed at last year.
Not sure those weights are always accurate. Big guys can put on weight pretty easily and look at how Suh is built, he’s naturally strong and huge.
Good pick up!
The thing about Aaron Donald is he’s very strong and super quick. He’s not easy to block anywhere he lines up. So he could probably play some NT too because he’ll be in the backfield often.
as we know being in the backfield is not enough. Suh was in the backfield all day on sundays but we still sucked at stopping the run or getting off the field on 3rd down.
Just wondering about the Rams DL again. They had one of the best DT’s in the league in Donald and were one of the worst against the run. We had Suh and were one of the worst against the run. Now they have Donald and Suh, albeit as different position players now if they are staying a 3-4 but am interested in how they are against the run this season.
We we 14th against the run. We weren’t bad all year but had some really bad games.
Soooo, my sister and I have been hit on all day by these 19 yr olds. I know how old they are because one of them went thru this whole ‘guess how old I am ?’ thing. Is that a thing at that age? To get an old lady?
Asking for a friend. 😂😉
LOL – Still got it Herd!
why would you ask this group? So we could ask out kids? LOL
Don’t drink too much or you might wake up in a bunk bed. LOL
LMAO Tim!
Ok, I retract my statement from earlier. She may be older than Tony Sparano was, but I guess she is still hot if she has teenyboppers hitting on her.
Herd is a real attractive woman. Never been a doubt about that.
Orrrrrrrrrr an alternative theory is the kids aren’t old enough to buy their own beer and think if they butter up the older ladies they may buy them some liquor…..
This was my theory! 😂😁😂
But they had more to drink in their cooler than we did. 🤷♀️
McCray was supposed to be one of the UDFA that could make the 53. He was consider one of the best UDFA pickups we made, he and Davis were some of the more sought after UDFA’s
McCray ain’t cray-cray about football though
Herd could be heard saying “uhg, where the hell am I”
And why does my butt hurt……
If Herd really wants to do the ultimate walk of shame…. she’d wake up in this bed.
huh, that must be kyle brady’s jersey. Tom Brady is #12……..
The guess how old i am was so that you wouldn’t brush him off as some kid, though 19 still kinda qualifies these days.
Oh and im not questioning Herd’s hotness, but a 19 year old dude would fuck a knot hole on a tree, lets be honest. They are a bee hell bent on pollinating every flower in the field, especially the hot Herds of the world.
Rob – Tebow is done – Broke his hand. No controversy upcoming this season
Zierlein had Mike McCray rated as a 5.36, a NFL caliber backup and ST’er. He has Ginda as a 4.97, Camp Body. Ginda according to Zierlein is a instinctual tackler, with good upper body strength and burst quickness, but someone that plays off technique and if OL get into his body, he gets blown out. He did say he is a good outside edge setter however. McCray was considered a downhill thumper, decent coverage, good play recognition and makes good transition from run to pass. Not good at keeping containment on the outside as he lacked range. He also said he get handsy in man coverage and has an injury history that may cause concern. So this is what we had and what we have in replacement.
I see Alonso, McMillan, Anthony, Baker and Allen making the team. Probably only one spot open.
Im leaning towards 6 with Poling also making the team. Anthony im a little iffy on but i think he makes it over Hull if it comes down to 6 on the team. If there are 5 id have Poling over Anthony too.
I’m not ready on Poling until we see him play some.
McCray would have been a PS stash anyways, Collins also so far has been said to be impressing the coaches, so there might be a chance he makes it. Some of the camp battles are going to be down to the wire i think and im not sure many of us will be able to truly know which guy makes it, im sure some of us might guess, but with as close as the race is, i just dont think you can be confidant.
I gave that spot to Hull, Poling on PS
TE I had Gesicki, Smythe, Gray
Hoping to keep Escobar as 4 (not PS eligible)
Derby, & Duarte PS
Tim Knight says:
July 24, 2018 at 5:33 pm
I’m not ready on Poling until we see him play some.
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I have heard good things about Poling and Collins from things i read about some of the early notes from OTA’s. You are right there is still nothing to really base any confidence off of, but there were indications the coaches liked what they saw.
Neither of you think Garvin makes the team?
The GPS has him located elsewhere…..
LOL @ ‘Asking for a friend’
The last McCray we had Philbin went gaga over, “he looks like a football player” and on and on. So what does he do he cuts him and the guy goes on to start for Seattle.
This McCray seems like he didn’t like the real NFL coaching he was getting for the last several days. It’s tough.
Since we talk baseball here. 2nd best winning streak now in MLB is 3 games. Top one is 10. No reason to even make it a quiz….. still just 3 games above 500. Ain’t sports screwy.
Way to go Herd glad you’re having a good time
He might have just said F south florida I’m heading back to Michigan where I don’t have swamp ass all day!
Failure to use powder is a terrible reason
son of a son of a shula says:
July 24, 2018 at 5:52 pm
The last McCray we had Philbin went gaga over, “he looks like a football player” and on and on. So what does he do he cuts him and the guy goes on to start for Seattle.
This McCray seems like he didn’t like the real NFL coaching he was getting for the last several days. It’s tough.
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From his statement and some of the things i read about his past in football, i think this was directed at his dad, who was a team captain in college as well. I think like he said he’s been like he has been playing for the wrong reasons, playing for others and not himself, and now he wanted to do his own thing, and sound like he wants to coach football instead since he said that this was not a goodbye to football, just to playing football.
stangerx says:
July 24, 2018 at 5:54 pm
Since we talk baseball here. 2nd best winning streak now in MLB is 3 games. Top one is 10. No reason to even make it a quiz….. still just 3 games above 500. Ain’t sports screwy.
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I forget sometimes that your a Pirates fan and not a silly Mets fan. Good to see the bucs on a streak. Thats my second favorite team.
D – I thought Garvin is a ST’s ace. He might make it on that alone
Oh my bad i forgot we picked that guy up. Even more competition….. i was janking on ya i thought you had messed up the name of Ginda, i was making a joke about the GPS Garvin lol.
Thats a good problem to have but we will be cutting some pretty solid players this year for sure. Player that might have made other teams. The ones we dont keep i hope we can get them on the PS. Some of those guy have solid potential.
I’ll be doing the LB camp battle in couple of weeks, the next one is the DT’s
I read an article yesterday that said sports and specifically fan loyalty is almost masochistic by nature. They registered people levels of happiness throughout a day and then determined on average what a persons happiness was and different times of the day.
They said that they tested their happiness leading up to a sporting event and they found that people were a slightly happier before the event began, and if their team won this went up to 3-5 points (on a 100 point sale) happier than normal, but if they lost they were 6.5-10 point below their normal.
They said the high number on the range for the win, was attributed to fans whose teams normally dont do well, and the elation they get from a win, and the lower number on the loss scale represented that fans unhappiness with a loss.
For teams whose team are perpetual winners, the numbers are reversed, and the lower number represented their elation with a win, and the upper number represented their disappointment with a loss.
So all in all, being a fan of sports to be a fan of a perpetual losing team is easier game to game, and comes with higher highs and lower lows, but you never get the real enjoyment of your teams success. Having a successful team overall is nice, but game to game it comes with higher lows and lower highs. in essence, you are destined for disappointment either way.
I think that helps explain the status of our team. We are a franchise with so much previous success that we dont get to enjoy the game to game higher highs, and lower lows because we are looking forward to sason success like a successful franchise would, and yet we havent been a successful franchise for so long we dont get the ordinary payout at the end that allows us to enjoy what we have done.
Sounds kinda right. I think the expectations and highs and lows change dramatically though during the season. In the beginning, when the Mets started 11-1, I thoroughly enjoyed each win, and then as the losses started, each one hurt. Then we fought back a bit, and my expectations rose again, and then the losses really started coming, and now I don’t even care about the losses or the wins, just the individual performances, and I enjoy if they play well and win, but the win itself doesn’t mean anything to me big picture. I think the same thing has happened with the Dolphins too, they give us hope, and at least in the last decade, have had some awful late season collapses where they just needed a win or two to get in, and couldn’t get it done, or just a bad season like last year where the mid to end of year losses didn’t bother me, I almost preferred the losses.
Stopping the run is a team stat and takes the whole team to do well. One DT doesn’t change that. Suh, Donald or anybody. MAYBE a great MLB in a 4-3 who is asked to make 150 tackles a season. Teams love DTs who can put pressure on the pocket. Run stopping has become secondary. They’re not signing Suh to plug holes. They are signing him because now teams will have to choose who they double team…Suh or Donald…and both of them can dominate when singled up.
D,
I think most people are always impacted more by losses than by wins. I know it’s true for me. When I played sports, I’d carry a loss for a week. I’d enjoy a win for a few hours and then it’s done. Lol
This may seem selfish, but when I play sports now, and I play well, I enjoy it even if we lose (Unless it’s an important game). If we win and I play poorly, I fel bad about playing poorly, but if it’s an important game, happy about the win. If we lose an important game, like playoffs, I’m mad no matter what. Winning playoff games, the high lasts quite a while, and championships, even longer. I find those very satisfying, because it takes a lot to win them.
Garvin for STs is a possibility and I’ve also heard Collins looked good in OTAs. We need good competition at LB so may the best men win.
MikeE,
I think that’s a great perspective. I’ve gone more that way with age, but as a young man, it was more about my hatred of losing than my joy of winning. I never claimed to be mentally stable. Lol
It’s definitely age for me too Randy. I hated losing when I was younger, it killed me, but now I know each season might be my last, so my perspective has changed.
I can believe herd is hot. What I can’t believe is she can actually hold a conversation with 19 year olds. Who does that? Lol
LOL – Maybe they were texting, or sexting. lol
What’s this winning you speak of?
With the Dolphins?
Actually everything! I’m so used to losing it’s no big deal anymore. Just a shrug of the shoulders and off to the next one. LOL
We haven’t lost a game this season yet, look at the bright side!
Oh, I am.
It’s our year!!!
son of a son of a shula says:
July 24, 2018 at 5:54 pm (Edit)
Way to go Herd glad you’re having a good time
Thank you. I am having a good time and I’ve earned it. Doing 2 jobs for about 6 weeks, the extra one being payroll where I work is stressful. Screw that up and everyone knows about it! Add that into being a single mom, I chose that myself so no complaints but it can still be trying at times. My son had surgery on his rt foot in early June, was in a cast for 6 weeks, that came off last Thursday. Left for the beach bright and early last Saturday. Today would have been my parents 60th anniversary, we’ve got my mom here with us too. My son leaves for camp the day after we are back from here and my daughter leaves for college a couple of days after that. I went to college orientation with her a couple of weeks ago, she was on crutches, tore a ligament in her ankle 2 days before it started(horse riding mishap). Just got her a horse trailer, it’s what she wanted for HS graduation. Finding the one that met all her requirements was exhausting. It has been a busy summer for sure and I’m looking forward to a winning season this year. Doubt I’ll make the fest. I do want to come but my son won’t talk with his dad much less stay with him for a weekend. He’s not into football like me so bringing him isn’t really an option. I’m happy and doing great and hope everyone else here is as well.
GO FINS!!!
Man Herd! I thought finishing a project was stressful!
I think I’ll go hang my head in shame now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol. I’ve worn a groove in the road between home and Lexington KY the last 2 months. It’s where my son’s surgery was, at Shriners, also where my daughter is going to college at UK. I’ve gone there at least once a week, every week the past 2 months since his cast had to be changed every 2 weeks after his surgery. A 2 1/2 hr drive each way. Whew! Glad that’s over!
3 dicks and a chick?
yes!