So much drama surrounding the Dolphins Head Coach search, and also the with the philosophy of a rebuild here in Miami. First things first. Chris Grier, not Steve Ross will be choosing the new Head Coach. Grier is complete charge of football operations, and he’s the guy making the decisions. If you think Steve Ross will be meddling with the decision, that’s on you.
Is a rebuild such a bad thing? What really is a rebuild? I’d say there are probably a lot of different ways to rebuild something. If you replace the short block of an engine, that’s considered a rebuild, but the whole unit wasn’t rebuilt. I think for the Dolphins, what we’re going to do is not make the same mistakes we’ve made in the past few years. Flash back to 2015, when we signed Ndamukong Suh for a 6 YR $114M contract. Great player at a premium position, but we weren’t one player away, and honestly, Suh never flourished here. No more huge contracts for 1 player.
It’s more than just Suh though, it’s going for the quick fix. In 2017 when we lost Ryan Tannehill, we should have soldiered on with what we had, rather than pay Jay Cutler $10M. I wanted the quick fix, but it was selfish, and foolish, and it was a poor use of cap money. That’s what needs to change here. Getting rid of Mike Pouncey was a start in the right direction, and in the off season, the purge should continue. Robert Quinn ($12.9M), Andre Branch ($7M), Devante Parker ($9.4M) should all be purged. Cam Wake, who we all love shouldn’t even be considered for a re-sign. Let him go win a championship somewhere else.
Besides just outright cutting players, I think we should trade a couple of players. The most obvious one is Ryan Tannehill, and his market is completely undetermined. Not sure if we can recoup any more than a late round pick, like a 5th or later, but all it takes is one team that really wants him, and we can possibly do better. I know a couple of you here are tired of this one, but you guys aren’t focusing long term, you’re still fantasizing about success next season. I’d trade Reshad Jones for what I believe could be a 3rd RD pick to a team who needs that veteran presence and maybe is a player or 2 away from what they believe is a championship. It’s a minor cap savings, but we have 3 safeties in T.J. McDonald, Minkah Fitzpatrick and Reshad Jones, and T.J. won’t bring back the bounty of a 3rd RD pick. When you have numerous holes during a rebuild, you don’t keep a glut of talent at one position, it doesn’t make sense.
We’re trying to become a team that not only has a younger roster, but one that will have lots of cap space for flexibility. No more big FA contracts, and certainly no high priced FA contracts to older players. Quinn was a trade, but that 4th RD pick we gave to the Rams, plus the salary we had to pay Quinn was a loss for us. Maybe that’s part of the reason MTP is now banished from the kingdom.
As for the Head Coach, I don’t have a horse in this race. I like certain things about each of the candidates, but I don’t feel like any of them are the a clear cut choice. It’s probably silly to not want Brian Flores from the Patriots, but former Patriots coaches that left NE and became HC’s have had dreadful results. Romeo Crennel (28-55), Josh McDaniels (11-17), Matt Patricia (6-10), and Eric Mangini (33-47). Of course none of this means Brian Flores won’t succeed, but whatever qualifications any of those coaches had, the success of the New England Patriots is on the shoulders of Bill Belichick.
I love Darren Rizzi’s passion, fire, and respect the fact that his unit has been consistently very good. I don’t have a clue as to what his offensive and defensive philosophies are. They might be good ones, but we don’t know. Kris Richard was the defensive backs coach and then coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks for the “Legion of Boom” era. You have to love that. We don’t know what his plan is on offense, and we don’t know how he is at game planning and handling the entire roster. I feel that whatever HC we hire, it would be great if we could get some continuity going, but that requires patience. Would Ross accept 3 losing seasons and continue on for the sake of continuity?
Last night driving home, I was listening to Bill Polian, and unfortunately, just caught the tail end of the discussion, but what I did hear was Polian saying that teams like Dolphins, Bucs, Cardinals are in a pattern of failure, and are setting themselves up for such every time they make a coaching change. He’s right. We all hunger for it, yet each time we do it, it sets the team back a couple of years. The best teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Packers, Ravens have had the same Head Coach for 5 or more years, which keeps the same system in place, and allows a team to continue to build the roster with a particular style, rather than flushing players every few years that don’t match the new regimes style. Polian said what the Dolphins, Bucs are doing is a “Self fulfilling prophecy”. He’s right.
If we’re going to pick a Head Coach, I think we as fans have to try and be patient, but more importantly, Steve Ross does. He has to block out what the media wants, what the fans want, and just let the HC build something. In retrospect, I think we may have cut Gase too soon, although I didn’t like him, and hated the way he got along with players, maybe he deserved more time. Too late now, but hopefully this time, we don’t make that same mistake.
If I were Oakland, I’d rather have f’n Kahlil back and look what Amari has done when used correctly!!
No one knows whether some unknown future kid will be better than those proven NFL pros.
yep. the guys who have that “grass is greener on the other side” mentality usually come out holding the short end of the stick.
They would still have a really high pick
The best pass rusher in the league and a very good WR
If anything the player to part with should have been carr
think, if they kept both Mack and Cooper, with the picks they’ve got now how good they could be instead of trading away guys they should have kept.
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That pass from Phil Rivers looked VERY Marino-esque!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marino would be much more accurate. That was a “Big Rape” Huck it out there.
I’m talking more about stepping up in the pocket, keeping the ball high for the quick release, and the quick release.
Rivers playin Roethslisberger all
I’ve touched on this only a few times over the years, but Phillip Rivers compares VERY favorably to Dan Marino on film. I really wanted us to draft him in ’04.
The Flying Pig says:
January 13, 2019 at 1:07 pm
Do you see anyone on our roster that will land us a 1st in 2019 or 2020
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absolutely not,
the only thing we have of value is that #13 pick,
we trade that for a 2020 first rnder and whatever we get this year from the team we are trading with maybe a late rnd 1st or an early 2nd.
then next year we will have 2 1st rnders and continue that same process trading one of those 1st rnders away,
not to mention trading that #13 may insure we suck next year giving us a very early #1,
mean while we will be loading our team with #1s and #2s every year.
Right now we are middle class draft poor, we need to put ourselves in a position to be draft rich every year.
There’s not one average team that has done that and had success. Even Belichick quit doing it because it wasn’t providing more than he could get otherwise. The teams you mention are drafting in the top 5. That’s far different than 13
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Just look at Rivers in the pocket here! That’s Dan Marino! He’s got Marino’s signature hop/bounce, pumping the ball high for the quick release, and the quick release… BOMB!
This is an important drive for the Chargers right now
Hightower needs to be flagged for pummeling Rivers after the play was called dead. SMH @ these zebras.
Think this is going to be a long day for the Chargers. I never thought they were as good as their record
I HATE the Patsies* 😡
Ok, I’m confused. Did we trade Tanny or not?
No because when he’s finally gone I’ll be throwing a party
Well it won’t be Rizzi as next HC. So my vote for Colonpokey still has a chance!
Will admit it — am not upset the Pats are winning…… gives me something to root for (or maybe against) next weak.
We need term-limits on the commish of the NFL. It’s very clear that Bob Kraft and Roger Goodell are BFFs. There are WAY too many shenanigans going on, off the gridiron. These games are too easy to rig/cheat/steal, and Patsies* have been the beneficiary for far too long.
FIRE GOODELL
As long as you understand that the owners are the ones that want him in, because they’re all making money hand over fist, it should lessen your obsession with getting him out. It’s not any different than OD wanting Ross out. Ross owns the team, and he’s not selling it to make anyone else happy. As long as the owners are making tons of money with Goodell, he’s staying.
This game isn’t going as I hoped
We could still root for an injury to Brady
I do that even if they lose
And don’t even have to hope for grotesque Joe Theismann…just enough for Gisele to get worried and remind him who wears the ball gag at night. 🙂
Grotesque would be cool though
Or it could be a gruesome injury. Just saying
You two are bad men…. lol
LOL @ Naples – I love that you said Dion FF, because you’re a pretty straight laced guy, and it just has a better effect than when anyone else says it. Thanks!
This game is officially a shit show
M13,
There is no way the other owners in the league would allow the commissioner to favor one team (NE) over everyone else. The commissioner isn’t in charge. The owners are, and they’re not gonna just sit by while the commissioner screws their teams over to favor another team. No way.
Well, SOMETHING has to be done!!! LOL 😀
If you are saying pick up a 2020 1st rounder to move from 13 to the 20s in 2019
I would love that
But it’s probably too high a price
But yes – 2 first rounders in 2020 would be great and might also get us he ammo we need to get a top tier QB
I don’t think it would be so bad to pick in the back of the 1st this year
If you are going DL or OL
The back of the first round is going to have good prospects
Agree
It that what ORob is suggesting?
I think it is a more clear statement than what ORob posted
You’d probably have to throw in another pick to move back to 20-30 and get a 1st rounder in 2020. If we are really in a rebuild of sorts, you entertain every possible move that can garner you picks.
Yeah
Probably
It’s also worth mentioning that the teams picking in the back of the first are probably going to pick in the back of the first in 2020 too
I’m not in favor of trading our blue-chip players to garner additional picks. The Raiders could do it because they’ve had so many top-5 picks over recent years, and they chose POORLY.
IMO, we’re going to have to trade back this Draft to accumulate enough return to be able to make a play for a QB early in the ’20 Draft.
There is, of course, another option… mortgage future picks to make a play for a QB in the ’20 Draft, but I’d hate to do that.
Most of our best players are younger anyway
Indeed, but I don’t want to trade Reshad either.
In short, we’re in a precarious position right now with no clear way to do what we really want to do… short of absolutely tanking this coming season. And I don’t believe in tanking, nor does any player.
I hate these rules. It’s not even football.
I understand the Pats are good at what they do. But what is it that makes teams go to NE and completely unravel? WTF is going on?
Right! That’s what I’m thinking as well! It’s just CRAZY.
Chargers were just not as good as their record said
Okay but this?
I am not surprised. I expected a blowout
The chargers were very good this year
I disagree
This is what happens to good teams in foxboro
I would not care who ever we trade so we can build more draft capital. There is no coherent plan to how this team is constructed. Blow it up and start from scratch. No one is off trading block imo
I can tell y’all with utmost certainty that the Patsies* are still cheating, as they always have. We just don’t know how they’re cheating this time around.
I do think the Chiefs Patriots is a much better match up than this shit show
Am I the only one who thinks the Pats aren’t letting Flores come to Miami?
They can’t stop him if he wants the job unless Belichick gives up his HC title.
In just saying they make it difficult for him to leave by making him an offer that’s tough to refuse
The dark lord’s ego will not care. Can replace him with a stuffed animal and same results.
I said that to my wife. She said, “Can they do that?”
Precedent: They wouldn’t let their OC go to the Colts.
PS: bellicheat is still royally pissed that he lost to Patricia, so that’s another reason they might be leery of letting a 2nd DC in a row go to somebody they have to play.
Patricia “knew too much” of the inner sanctum at Gillette dungeon.
… I’m surprised he still has 2 kneecaps.
patsies* won’t make that mistake twice.
btw … did they leak that story of patricia molesting that college girl? Surely they knew that about him. Were they the unnamed source?
LOL @ Mike E.
LOL @ Naples – I love that you said Dion FF, because you’re a pretty straight laced guy, and it just has a better effect than when anyone else says it. Thanks!
I’m Joe Philbin … dropping f’bombs while picking up litter.
👍😂
tbh … Jordan is my mother’s family name and my son’s first name, so I can’t bear to use it in conjunction with that con artist sasquatch.
LOL @ ER “Can replace him with a stuffed animal and same results.”
The Patriots are just incredible, I envy their fans.
Their fans are a lot like Yankees fans. They just expect to win every year, and in the Patriots case, they do year in and year out. It’s unbelievable
It is unbelievable, historically so, and you don’t do it this often and this consistently by “cheating” or it being “rigged”. If so, other owners would be doing it.
Discipline.
Buying into a team where each individual is held responsible for completing a task every play. No other team can compete with that. Either you do what’s asked, or you’re immediately replaced by someone else who does. They must teach substantially better than every other team.
Gase tried that. It does help when you have one of the greatest QBs of all time
How many times have the Patsies* been caught cheating during the Belicheat*/Lady* era?!! Yes, it’s very well documented and not some bunk theory. C’mon, now… SMMFH
How did they cheat today?
We don’t know (yet), but I all but guarantee that they’re still doing it.
MikeE,
It takes discipline to practice the way you should. To study the way you should. To hold yourself and those around you accountable for doing things the right way. It starts with belichick. He holds himself to that standard and so he can hold others to it. Brady does the same. When you have that level of discipline at the top, it will trickle down. Belichick and Brady won’t allow anything else. They don’t need great players all over the place because when you demand a high level of discipline it makes even average players better. It’s something we’ve lacked for a long time.
If so, shouldn’t other teams be doing this?
I hate that the Pats keep winning, but we are witnessing one of the greatest QBs, greatest coaches, and greatest organizations of all time, imho.
Someone yelled YEAH STEPH before he made the INT. Whar’s up with that?
Just a hiccup in the Matrix
Take the blue pill
LOL
Randy – No question, but the problem is, in order to have everyone buy in, you have to some cred, and Belichick has it. When your team only wins 6-8 games every season, you kind of lose cred with the players. It’s a real conundrum, because it’s hard to get to the point where you’re winning. If Flores or whomever takes the job this year comes in and wins 10 games, he’ll build up some cred, and people will buy in, but you have to keep it up, you can’t go backwards, because it wears off.
IMO, Tom Lady* = Barry Bonds*
M13,
Other teams don’t have Belichick and Brady.
I’m sorry, but there’s something very fishy going on.
Phins now allowing Rizzi to interview with other teams
That’s the right thing to do. I hope we don’t lose him, but that’s the right way to do it.
M13,
I can’t say you’re wrong because how do any of us really know? I think all teams cheat. Maybe some are just better at it. All I know is I have seen a whole lot of really good football from NE for a long time that has nothing to do with cheating.
Not going to take away from the Pats but the Chargers defensive strategy was terrible today. After all these years, you don’t give Brady a zone. Belichick and him are just too good for that. Today reminds me of the Steelers. They tried to play the same way every time against Pats. Result- lots of losses. You have to be creative and surprise them.
Pat agrees with you.
Good story by Hyde on Kuechenberg
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-hyde-kuechenberg-20190113-story.html
RIP Kuech
Foles stock continues to rise
I’m with you M
They are the Cheatriots for a reason!
Thank you, MOST kindly, SIR!
So . . . Would you trade a 2019 1st RD pick, Ryan Tannehill and a 2020 3rd RD pick for Carson Wentz? Just making stuff up here, but would you do that?
Why so he can be on I/R? LOL
Who would be on IR, Tannehill, Wentz, or both? lol
Wentz
Yes
NO
Send a beer M’s way
Tried to post pic of a pint multiple times and it won’t allow it for some strange reason.
I’ll take a Boddingtons please! 😉
Do any of you think that’s a fair trade, or would it take multiple 1st RD picks?
I think it’s close might take a little more but Philly is an interesting pickle at QB
Yes it’s fair
I actually think we should get more then Wentz
Like a 4th or something
So,far Wentz has missed the postseason in both yeas of his career
Mike E. says:
January 13, 2019 at 5:34 pm
So . . . Would you trade a 2019 1st RD pick, Ryan Tannehill and a 2020 3rd RD pick for Carson Wentz? Just making stuff up here, but would you do that?
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Being that Carson Wentz ended up on I/R twice in consecutive years, I’d say NO. I’m not trading for damaged goods anymore.
He’d have to be medically sound obviously. If not, we don’t do the trade.
Brian Flores is going to wake up in a hotel room with a drugged up hooker who’s got lines of cocaine on her ass
Sounds like Saturday night
Sounds like he already is signed with the Dolphins
Lol Piggi that one took me a minute 🐽🎉💨
Or do you pay Nick Foles Kirk Cousins or better money?
I suspect the eagles are going to let Foles go and keep Wentz
It’s an interesting decision for them. Just say Foles wins another SB or gets them there. Kind of hard to let him go but I agree with you in theory that Wentz is the better talent
I’m glad too see they realized we had a problem evaluating players!
Maybe we can draft a little better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again…agree with M
No damaged goods. I also wouldn’t like to see a big $$ contract for any QB. It’s time to draft a few and build the right team. Meanwhile keeping drafting til the sun finally shines on the dolphin’s ass…..
Agree too with both of you
Wentz has back trouble I don’t want him. I don’t see him as a good fit. Josh Dobbs is a much better fit here.
Lol
Good – deep draft
We need it…lol
Well, I’m super happy the Foles train was derailed today. ESPN spent all of last week ensuring I’d change my radio channel frequently. Great game tho.
It looks like Ross is staying out of the way and letting Grier do his job.
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Can’t believe you just posted a tweet from somebody who intentionally lied about our franchise… and it wasn’t the first time, either. Kris Coughman is the worst.
When did he lie about our franchise? Intentionally?
Just say no to Wentz. He’s not that good..
Tim Knight says:
January 13, 2019 at 3:15 pm
I understand the Pats are good at what they do. But what is it that makes teams go to NE and completely unravel? WTF is going on?
Kraft went into business with the Cuban company that made the sonic devices that attached those foreign diplomats and uses them on opponents
Only losers claim winners are cheating. If teams want to beat NE they have out-prepare them and out-scheme them.
You just might want to rethink yourself there. Seriously, don’t let your emotions get in the way of reality. I KNOW you are better than making such a foolish comment, Bro.
Sweet Baby Jesus…You seem to have a loose grasp of the meaning of both emotions and reality. NE beats teams because Belichek out schemes opponents and Brady plays within his abilities. They beat SD because SD a) played the wrong defense (zone, dime) allowing Brady to pick them apart and b) NE’s defense frustrated Rivers who played awful. Period. No cheating needed, just sound football. That’s reality and unemotional. Blaming losing on cheating by your opponents is a loser’s mentality. You win or lose based on your actions, not your opponent’s.
How many times has NE been to the SB only to lose? So, they can be beaten. I’ve gone down that path before with the cheating comments but you’ve got to do your job when you’re playing them. Plain and simple.
How many times have the Patsies* been found guilty of cheating? I rest my case.
The reality is with New England is the other teams in the afc east have be handing it to them for a decade
When do they ever come out less than 4-2 in the division
Then they wrap up a bye in the first round and get a home game
That’s a huge advantage
Then they lose on the road
It’s routine by now
I’m taking not cheating
The afc east has been really bad outside of New England
NE filmed another teams practice and let some air out of a football. I hardly think that has been the reason they win as much as they do.
Phelon, now you’re just making excuses. I do NOT CONDONE CHEATING.
If this were the NCAA, the Patsies* would have been barred from competing, PERIOD. You and I both know as much, and it’s about ETHICS.
You and I can go back and forth on this, but I KNOW that in your heart of hearts that you agree with me.
Exactly Phelon!!!!
I’m audi for the night.
And Phelon… if you only knew how much I respect you, Bro!
Have a GRAND night, all!
I agree 100% with Phelon in all his comments about the Patriots. This crap about them cheating their way to all of their division titles, playoffs successes, and SB tiltes is conspiracy bull crap….imo.
MF13
Well we have to get our information from somewhere!
KC ain’t any worse than the rest!!!!!!!!
Thanks for posting what you do. Some of us just enjoy the opinions and information from others, without over analyzing.
Shula called this great head coach Belicheat….that’s all I need to know.
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What about Wentz isn’t that good Phelon? After his rookie season, he’s been a top 10 QB. He has 70 TD’s against 28 INT’s. He had over 100 passer rating each of the last 2 years. His YPA has gone up each year, and finished this season at 7.7 YPA.
Look, if he has a permanent injury that’s going to derail his career, you don’t touch him with a 10′ pole, but if he’s healthy, he’s a damn good QB.
But hes not healthy….he cant finish a season. They RIP RT17 for being injury prone, but dude took a beating for years and kept playing. Wentz has yet to complete 1 season.
My B
He did complete his rookie year. Guess he got old and injury prone real fast.
Not only hasn’t Wentz had injury problems in the NFL, but his back issues also occurred in college. There’s a reason Glass Joe is the first opponent in Punch-Out. Areas that have been issues; legs, wrist, back. chest. There’s not many other areas to get an injury lol.
LOL
Build the trenches and search for the QB. 2019 is going to be a major transition with this team.
I don’t want to harp on this but… it is worth mentioning, the Miami Dolphins in the most southern state, will likely have the only GM (head honcho) and Head Coach who are men of color, in the league. If Brian Flores is hired as our next HC (black and hispanic) he will join Mike Tomlin and Anthony Lynn as the only black HCs… and Chris Grier is the only black GM/top executive in the league. Bravo Stephen Ross.
Anyone else notice the Pats use one DT hand in ground and 4-5 other defenders = a mix of DE, LB and DB all showing blitz and some do and don’t? What system is that? One that tries to win the game.
How dare you applaud Ross!
Your first sentence is where I’m at. Build the team and keep bringing in QBs til you get one.
“Deep South” Florida is not necessarily the same as “Deep South” Alabama, or Mississippi- but your point has not been missed.
Can Flores help make Charles Harris the next Trey Flowers?
Gotta wait and see what staff he puts together. Couldn’t do worse anyway….
I’ll say this about the Pats and I hate this. LOL
They play matchups. 4-3/3-4 means nothing. On offense, Brady and whoever just play.
I’ll say this too, our next head coach is up now scheming the Chiefs. He just did the Chargers. Flores has been around winning his entire 14 year career in NE. How do you not see that rubbing off? 🙂
It really hasn’t yet. Hence the Cheatriot stigma……
Now hes supposedly the new HC, got to like his story from rags to riches. That’s a lot of hard work. All you can ask for I guess.
I just don’t know how much of any of the reporting that’s going on about the coaches coming to Miami is true. Why does a team put out there, especially to it’s top competitor in it’s division, that it plans on hiring one of their guys and risking not being able to get that coach.
So much can happen to derail this thing between now and then and if the Pats continue to win it delays the hiring even further. That is why, even with all the reporting going on about whom Flores is targeting for his staff, none of those mentioned have been hired for him because too much can happen.
I just can’t imagine a team doing this. And now the latest report is that Marc Colombo is coming to Miami as part of his staff to be his offensive line coach. That is total bullshit because he is currently the o-line coach in Dallas and you can’t hire someone away from another team for the same position.
Something just doesn’t smell right about this whole thing. I’m still not convinced Flores is really the guy until it actually happens.
What could NE do to prevent him from coming here? Can’t make him the HC
Excuse me while I puke into my office trash can…..
Stat to Make You Sick: I: The Patriots scored more playoff points on Sunday (41) than the Dolphins have in the past 18 seasons (24). That Dolphins total includes: (a) a 30-12 loss to Pittsburgh in the 2016 season; (b) A 27-9 loss to Baltimore in the 2008 season; and (c) a 20-3 loss to Baltimore in the 2001 season.
PAST EIGHTEEN SEASONS!
if only we had taken godirt
maybe we could pick up tyrod taylor as a bridge qb
For the bridge you live under? Ha! JBB
he may be an improvement over tanny
could the jets land Nick Foles?
So, is low gains going to the Jets with Gase?
who knows??? i certainly hope so, we can’t do worse
there’s really not much out there except Foles and i doubt we will sign him to a long term 20mil + contract so he’s out, we may just keep tannehill, what other options are out there? tyrod is the best option of all fa qbs not named foles.
Well, if a team is hoping to “tank” this year for a high pick next year why not roll with the guy since he sucks so bad. Next season his hit is more reasonable
even if we trade him we still get hit with a 13 mil cap hit, all we get for trading him may be a 4th rnder.
i don’t think the cap is a big issue as we will not be signing any top shelf FAs
here’s the quagmire, in order to get real good we have to get real bad first, so maybe keeping logains is the answer.
if we have a chance to move up in front of Jax and snag haskims for this years 1st and 2nd, and bext years 1st and 2nd, do we do that?
maybe we trade tanny to the jets so he and gase can ride off into the sunset.
like the old western movie…..shane…….shane……
I hope we trade Tannehill – It would probably be better for his career to have a change. We’ve already made the coaching changes and brought in the “QB whisperer”, nothing really worked, he’s still Tannehill.
TryPod says:
January 14, 2019 at 6:57 am
“Deep South” Florida is not necessarily the same as “Deep South” Alabama, or Mississippi- but your point has not been missed.
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Ha…I need to take you to where I grew up. Osceola County. It is as deep south as it gets.
Mike – Wentz has recurring back issues. The most important talent is the ability to stay on the field. Besides, just say no to other teams’ cast-offs. Let’s find our own.
“The most important ability is availability”
Listen, if he’s not healthy, he’s out, but that guy has some serious talent. It’s not an issue of whether he’s good or not, I think he’s a very good QB, but if he’s not healthy, we’ll pass.
Rock – Tannehill doesn’t have either ability now, and I can’t bear to watch him be our QB one more year. That’s all I can stands, I can’t stands no more! lol
Ok, you can vent your spleen all you like. Watch some other guy fuck it. better yet, take a break away from the team this year so you don’t have to suffer.
Yes, I prefer to watch some other QB, any QB play for us next season. That’s true. I would love to be able to trade Tannehill, get something for him.
pheloniusphish says:
January 14, 2019 at 10:53 am
TryPod says:
January 14, 2019 at 6:57 am
“Deep South” Florida is not necessarily the same as “Deep South” Alabama, or Mississippi- but your point has not been missed.
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Ha…I need to take you to where I grew up. Osceola County. It is as deep south as it gets.
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Some parts of South Florida make racist in Alabama and Mississippi seem like open minded and accepting individuals.
Theres parts of the Bradenton/Tampa/Orlando areas that have some serious skin head activity.
Some in depth info on Carson Wentz and his back injury
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/12/16/18141278/carson-wentz-back-injury-updates-philadelphia-eagles-2018
I’d take Tyrod in a second over Tannehill but I don’t think he’ll be the target. Someone will be though and that’s good enough. Just cut the cord, it’s long overdue.
I don’t think it’s now about the money or the cap, I think Ross wants to cut the cord with Tannehill regardless of where that takes us.
and why do you think that? there is less than zero evidence of this, in fact you have to stretch reality a lot just to justify the comment. Everything Ross as said about Tannehill for 7 years has been positive. This is not a “stick up for Tanny by a Tannylover post” I am just wondering how you can project your angst onto someone else.
Grier is on record as being a fan of Tannehlill too BTW.