3 weeks away, what are we doing?

Whatever we do with our 1st pick, I don’t think anyone here should be surprised. I think we can go a multitude of directions. By that, I mean we can stay put at #13 and select whomever we believe is the best player , we could move up and take a player (read QB), or we might even trade back and collect more draft capital. I really have no idea what we’re doing and I definitely don’t have a strong feeling about any particular player that we’re interested in. I’m not always right about who we’re taking, but I usually have a pretty good hunch, even if it’s wrong.

I think many of you that believe we will just be going whole hog on the DL, both DE and DT, and also staying in the trenches with numerous OL. I think you guys are all overlooking the fact that we need a QB. I know we’re supposed to be all in on Tua, but I don’t buy it. We need to upgrade the QB position with some young talent for the future. Fitz is a placeholder, and right now we have Luke Falk and Jake Rudock. I feel very strongly that we are taking a QB in this draft, and it will be no later than RD 3, and very possibly RD 1. Now which QB that is, I really have no idea. I don’t think Haskins is going to make to #13 and I have no reason to believe we’re in love with him enough to trade up to get him. We very well may be, and if we are, GO GET HIM! If there’s one thing we’ve seen here since Dan the man departed in 1999 is that we’ve yet to replace him with the right QB, and thus have been 144-160 AM (After Marino).

It’s definitely not all on the QB, but when you have the right QB, you have the most important player on the field locked up. You build around that. No DE, DT, OT, OG, OC, LB, S, CB, RB, TE, K, P or LS can make that impact. You gotta have the QB, and we don’t have one. It’s time to remedy that. Take one this year, and much like the Cardinals, if you’re not sure about that guy, take another one next year, but find that guy! Having Fitz means if we do take a QB, even in RD 1, that we don’t have to rush them into service immediately. If at some point during the year the QB is ready to go in, then maybe we’ll get a peek at what is to come, but it’s not a necessity. It would also give us a jump start for next year because the QB will know the system having been here a year, even if he doesn’t play. That will make the transition next year much easier.

It’s gonna happen folks, we’re taking a QB whether you want us to or not! Get used to the idea, because it’s happening this draft. Or at least it should.


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  1. Some interesting mocks out there.

    I found one that suggests Miami trades up to number 2 and selects Bosa

  2. BailBondMike says:

    Tell me if you don’t see some similarities to Frank Gore. He is good between the tackles, patient and very good at setting up his blocks. He finishes his runs and loves to punish DB’s. If he is there late, I have to take him!

  3. wyoming85 says:

  4. BailBondMike says:

    One free agent RB I would bring in who should be on the cheap side is Alex Collins. He really came on in 2017 then battled foot/knee issues last year. He is an UFA and worth a look.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I liked him coming out. If he has not lost his wheels, I’d try to get him.

      I also like Travis Homer a lot late in the draft.

      Newage and others, i do not want to WASTE a draft pick on a RB,
      but we desperately need 2 more.

      If we can get those out of the 10+ good runners in FA, then fine.

  5. naplesfan2010 says:

    Remeber guys …
    I said there is a dilemma between what NAPLESFAN wants
    and what I think the FO and coaches want.

    So in my long set of previous posts I was trying to use the clues
    to figure out what THEY are most likely to do.

  6. BailBondMike says:

    My guy is RB Darrell Henderson but he will go to early for us to grab a RB. My fav after him is RB Ryquell Armstead but would probably have to nab him by the 5th which still might be to early for a RB unless we trade back for more picks. That is why I like RB Travis Homer who may be there in the 7th.

  7. naplesfan2010 says:

    I also want to clarify what I think “multiple” means.
    Or what I hope it means, since we don’t know yet.

    I hope and think with this new HC it means disguising schemes and utilizing many different sets and personnel packages to both confuse the offense during the game and make it more difficult for opposing coaches to game plan the week before.

    I hope it does NOT mean having a bunch of utility guys on the OL or anywhere in the Defense who are passable at 3 positions and a star at none, like some of our recent regimes misinterpreted “multiple” as.

    And I hope it does NOT mean wasting Gesicki’s speed and leaping ability while trying to rebuild his entire game into being a really fast Right Tackle.

  8. mf13ss says:

    Well, this is my 1st Phins mock of the year. I usually drop my 1st mock on New Year’s Day, but this year has been very different for so many reasons… namely, we’re starting from scratch with a brand new staff, new official GM now that Tannenbaum is gone, and we don’t really know for certain which direction we’ll be going. Here goes nothing!

    M13’s 1st Official Phins Mock Draft for 2019

    R1P13: Jonah Williams, OL, Alabama
    R2P16: Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech
    R3P14: Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan
    R4P14: Tyree Jackson, QB, Buffalo
    R5P13: Michael Deiter, OG, Wisconsin
    R7P19: Xavier Turner, RB, Tarleton State
    R7P20: Stephen Denmark, CB, Valdosta State

    OBVIOUSLY, we can’t address everything in this draft. However, I think this gives us some building blocks for the future on both sides of the trenches. A few notes…

    * I highly doubt Jaylon Ferguson makes it to us @ R2P16, but I’m really hoping he does!

    * It would not surprise me if we outright forego the QB position this year, but Tyree Jackson would be a nice addition.

    * Do NOT discount the small-schoolers Xavier Turner and Stephen Denmark. Both have incredible ceilings.

    • mf13ss says:

      RB Xavier Turner Highlights – Tarleton State 5’10” 230 lbs

    • mf13ss says:

      Stephen Denmark #10 – 6’4 216 lbs – Valdosta State Senior Defensive back

    • The Flying Pig says:

      That would be amazing

      But I think winovich in the 3rd and Deiter in the 5th is wishful thinking

      Both of those guys are 2nd rounders, maybe even early 2nd, in the book of pork

      • mf13ss says:

        Thank you for your feedback, Pigster! We’ll see what happens as we’re hoping for the best.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        If it happened I would be more excited abiut winovich and deiter than Williams and Ferguson

        Not that either Williams or Ferguson warrant criticism – I just have a high opinion of those two particular late rounders

    • BailBondMike says:

      Dude, nice call!!! I was just looking at possible UDFA RB’s we should bring in and was just looking at Xavier Turner. Scouts were referring to him as a super sleeper.

    • BailBondMike says:

      Valdosta State played here in Pensacola VS UWF. I should have went to that game. LOL

  9. The Flying Pig says:

    I love draft time

    But I’m ready already

  10. naplesfan2010 says:

    MF’s draft above is excellent, but a lot of guys would need to slide whole rounds to get to us as listed in that mock.

    And GREAT research on the small schoolers.

    • mf13ss says:

      Thank you, Naples! Yes, a lot of things would have to move in our direction. Here’s hoping that they do, sir!

  11. mf13ss says:

    For those of you who think Michael Deiter will go earlier than the 5th round (you’re probably right), take a look at small-schooler Drew Forbes, OG, Southeast Missouri State. He’d be my replacement as our 5th round pick for Deiter, should Deiter go earlier.

  12. Randy says:

    I think both WI guards are gone by the third….possibly the second…depending on OL runs.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      To bad their center didn’t come out this year

      They are doing it right in winsconsin when it comes to OL

  13. Randy says:

    Dalton Risner is a kid I think could be a possible pick. He has really good position flexibility, and we have needs everywhere on the OL. Risner can play C/G/RT.

  14. MF, I’ve seen Jonah Williams mocked to us in a couple drafts.

    But there are literally dozens of Offensive lineman that will get selected in the draft, but only a handful of QB,s

    I’d go with the QB, because Fitz doesn’t need first round blocking to throw interceptions,
    he can Throw picks just fine with lower round OL

    This team will never succeed with Fitz at QB,
    if we want to win at the NFL level, we need a top QB, and those go very early in the draft

    • mf13ss says:

      This is not a very strong year for QBs, David. And even with that said, I think the top-3 QBs could be gone by the time we select @ R1P13.

      • Agreed it’s not a strong year, and the good ones go early. But we don’t draft strong years, we draft players, and there are some players at QB in the first, that will help us win.
        we need one, so we should explore trading up.

        If we pick an OL in the first, we won’t win more games. It will help, a little, but first round picks should do more than just help a little,

        If we get Drew Lock in here, there is hope for the future, and excitement on the field.

        Fans aren’t gonna wanna pay to see some first round OL blocking nicely for Fitzpatrick interceptions, it’s not entertaining

  15. New Age says:


    I agree with a lot you’ve said and anyone in the 6th-7th can be any position for me. If BBM, you and others have a RB you really like, I’m all for it. We’ve just drafted SIX RBs since 2011(eight years) in the 2nd-5th rounds. That’s excessive to me. I’d at most draft 2 every 6-7 years. The Saints drafted Ingram in the 1st in 2011 and didn’t use another pick above a 6th until Kamara in 2017. The guys in the Saints backfield this year are Kamara, Murray(6th rounder), and Washington(7th rounder). I like that kind of drafting/FA use. It’s no wonder we have been terrible for decades. Smart teams don’t draft RBs almost every year and they definitely don’t continue to draft them high.

  16. miami super bowl teams in 71,72,73, and 84 had first round franchise signal callers.

    1982 was the only time we ever went to a super without a franchise QB, and it showed,

    Woodley put on one of the worst performances ever, and who even remembers who was blocking, they couldn’t complete passes either

    An OL is basically a big fat low skilled worker, whereas QB takes high intelligence, and much more refined skills, even leadership skills

    OL doesn’t have to complete passes,or hand off, just get his fat ass in the way of the rushers, no need to waste a first rounder on OL

    Tunsil doesn’t have He ability to win games by himself, oL are needed, but wasting valuable first round picks on OL is a sure fire way to NOT improve the team imo.

  17. wyoming85 says:

  18. wyoming85 says:

  19. wyoming85 says:

    I think you’ve left me speechless!

  20. Tunsil never seemed to effect our win Loss record, but Marino sure did

    The QB position is way more important than the OL, we have only drafted one QB since 1983 in the first, just ONCE.

    We missed on it, but past time to try again.

    Our first round punter selections are only slightly behind the first round QB selections.

    Maybe Everyone thinks or seems to assume the local pizza delivery boy can play QB, til they put em on the field and find out otherwise

    Most successful QB go early in the draft

  21. I think if we draft an OL in the first, it’s tank time, because We don’t need a first round OL.
    a first round OL won’t make a difference in the win loss column , versus a second round OL.

    But if we picked a franchise QB in the first, and an OL I. The second, we get both of what we need.

    Second round QB,s aren’t going to be good enough to put wins, the good ones go very early

    • mf13ss says:

      That’s highly illogical in every aspect, David: draft status means NOTHING. It’s more about the bite in the dog than the bark in the dog.

    • Disagree bro, most of the best QB go in the first round, look it up

      That’s even a true in Miami, who were our best 3 QB,s of all time?
      1. Marino first round
      2. Griese first round
      3 Tannehill first round

      I know the Brady 6th round story, but what year was that draft? Yea, hasn’t happened since

      Who wins a Super Bowl with second round OL? Pretty much everyone,

      who wins with lower round QB? Pretty much only the stinkin pats

      Hoping a first round OL will help put wins on the board, and a second round OL can’t,
      is illogical, it hasnt worked that way

  22. olddolphan says:

    GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS for Lightning Fans.
    FIRST, the Good News; Lightning spotted Boston a 2-0 lead after one period of today’s regular season finale in Boston. They then proceeded to storm from behind and blow-out the Bruins 6-3 behind THIRD STRING GOALIE Eddie Pasquale!! Along the way, the Bolts got key goals from Stamkos and Kucherov and secured their 62nd victory of the season, tying an all time NFL record set by the Red Wings in the 1995-96 season. Kucherov’s goal was his 41st, thereby joining team mates Braydon Point (45) and Stankos (44 goals) to give Tampa Bay THREE PLAYERS with over 40 goals in the same season. They looked TERRIFIC DURING THE LAST TWO PERIODS!
    Make that NHL record, not NFL record up the page.)
    NOW the BAD NEWS: Stud defenseman Victor Hedman is STILL OUT with a concussion and has not skated in over a week. He’s universally regarded as the best defender in the NHL. His absence from the team would be a major blow to their playoff hopes. Also, back-up goal tender Louis Domingue, who played many key games this season, was injured in practice about 2 weeks ago and he didn’t even travel with the team on this four game road trip. Team officials have not even commented on his availability for the playoffs.
    The Lightning will be hosting the #8 seeded team in the East (probably Columbus) beginning on the 10th of April. Unfortunately, we’ll be in northern Georgia for a convention and will not see either of their first two playoff games in Amalie Arena. If Hedman recovers and is ready to go, I’d look for the Bolts to win this series in 5 or 6 games. But, if he’s out, this very well could be a 7 game series.

  23. Mike E. says:

    Hey M, I’m kinda in your neck I’m the woods, we’re in Lancaster for the day

  24. Mike E. says:

    M – meeting a friend of my wife’s for her birthday. They’re from Kane PA

    • mf13ss says:

      Very good! Have a great time and safe travels to you and yours, my friend. I go to Lancaster from time to time to check out some cars. Lots of cars for sale down there (auto auctions), and you can get really good deals.

  25. Mike E. says:

    I think it’s too late for me, I’m a bad man. Not as bad as Ken though

    • Tim Knight says:


    • No one has seen Fitz toss interceptions for Miami yet, but it’s coming. It’s too late to bitch about it then, we need to do something about it now.

      Fitz, is just backup quality, We can’t win with that numnuts pretending to be a starter, he isn’t starting quality

      All we can do is either draft a potential starter or trade, FA, etc..

      If we do not, then Fitz will throw games in the garbage, and why would fans waste their money and time to see some superstar OL blocking for Fitz to pick out his interception targets and tank the season?

      Turnovers are costly, we won’t win more than 3-4 games with Fitz at starter, I don’t care who is blocking,

      Only a better QB will have a chance to get us more wins

  26. mf13ss says:

  27. mf13ss says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    April 6, 2019 at 4:17 pm
    Disagree bro, most of the best QB go in the first round, look it up

    That’s even a true in Miami, who were our best 3 QB,s of all time?
    1. Marino first round
    2. Griese first round
    3 Tannehill first round

    I know the Brady 6th round story, but what year was that draft? Yea, hasn’t happened since

    Who wins a Super Bowl with second round OL? Pretty much everyone,

    who wins with lower round QB? Pretty much only the stinkin pats

    Hoping a first round OL will help put wins on the board, and a second round OL can’t,
    is illogical, it hasnt worked that way
    CONVERSELY, securing a 1st round QB is no guarantee for success… it’s not mutually exclusive. Sorry, but I do NOT like this year’s crop of QBs.

    • The Fins Met with Daniel Jones yesterday, they are for sure checking out the QB prospects.

      QB is our biggest need, by far. , and there are no excuses to not get one other than You didn’t try.

      Only Murray is unattainable, the others will be there waiting for their names to be called.


      Dolphins have resources to draft almost any QB they want | Miami Herald
      The Miami Dolphins can make no excuses about missing out on a franchise quarterback in the 2019 draft because it is their greatest need and they can reach for practically any player not selected with the No. 1 overall pick.

      • mf13ss says:

        I’m not influenced by the media, man. The Miami Herald, South Florida Sun-Sentinel, or Calm Peach Toast can say all they want… that’s THEIR opinions, voiced by their respective sports writers.

        They don’t know anymore than we bloggers do, and most of us bloggers aren’t even half as good as the REAL GMs in the league, as Krishna has stated.

      • mf13ss says:

        By the way, I think Krishna is a real wet towel… a dream-killer. I think we have some VERY brilliant football people on this blog who have futures, and it seems his mission is to bring us crashing down.

        Really nice, Krishna. SMH

  28. MF, from the devils advocate standpoint, what chance of success does Ryan Fitzpatrick have?


    This reminds me of a barefoot person shopping for shoes in a giant shoe store, but can’t find any they like, so they leave barefooted? Lol

    The person should find some damn shoes and put em on those stinky feet, lol. Don’t say

    I’m gonna wait and see what next years shoes look like, and step on glass and hot pavement all year barefooted instead.

    I can use my money on bandaids and cream for my sore feet, who needs shoes?

    But, Anythings better than barefooted, just select the best ones for You, if You don’t like em, come back next year and try again

    • mf13ss says:

      Ask yourself this: are we actually TRYING to win the Super Bowl this year, in a “rebuilding year”?

      • What is the goal of every team at the beginning of the year?

        If winning the super bowl isn’t it, they sure as hell won’t win it.

        Obviously we are rebuilding, but part of rebuilding is filling the biggest need, the QB position.

        Rebuilding is a process, and the end goal should be to win championships, right?

        Who wants to rebuild a team to lose every week, lol

        Fitzpatrick, Is NOT part of rebuilding, or winning, either.

        why was he brought in, and we are discussing OL in the first?

        Fitzpatrick is only a backup, if he has to start, who will want to watch the interception circus, because Miami failed to bring in a legit QB.?

        It’s not time to bitch then, it’s time to act now imo

  29. Tim Knight says:

    Brian Flores’ Mother who was fighting cancer passed away last month. I did not know that. My condolences, coach.

  30. ocalarob says:

    I’m thinking Defensive Line at 13, if you take the T at 13 you make the offense better, I think with a better offense you’re likely to win more games, even though the players and coaches are not tanking i’m sure the GM is. he wants to be in play next year for a run at our franchise QB. I think taking the best DL @ 13 will not result in more wins as opposed to taking Williams at 13.

    DL with the value pick JMO


    mf13ss says:
    April 6, 2019 at 2:09 pm
    Well, this is my 1st Phins mock of the year. I usually drop my 1st mock on New Year’s Day, but this year has been very different for so many reasons… namely, we’re starting from scratch with a brand new staff, new official GM now that Tannenbaum is gone, and we don’t really know for certain which direction we’ll be going. Here goes nothing!

    M13’s 1st Official Phins Mock Draft for 2019

    R1P13: Jonah Williams, OL, Alabama
    R2P16: Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech
    R3P14: Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan
    R4P14: Tyree Jackson, QB, Buffalo
    R5P13: Michael Deiter, OG, Wisconsin
    R7P19: Xavier Turner, RB, Tarleton State
    R7P20: Stephen Denmark, CB, Valdosta State

  31. ocalarob says:

    I wonder who had more 400+ yard passing games?? Tanny or Fitz?????

  32. wyoming85 says:

  33. mf13ss says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    April 6, 2019 at 5:16 pm
    What is the goal of every team at the beginning of the year?…
    We aren’t trying to win the Super Bowl this year. I don’t want to hear the word “tank”, but that’s what we’re doing, Brah… in order to rebuild in this rebuilding year.

  34. Fins haven’t drafted Yet, so I’m hoping they trade up and get a QB.

    If they don’t, then the team still has its biggest need unfilled,

    and the rebuilding process of Miami with a backup QB begins.

    Sarcasm alert, lol

    It’s gonna be exciting seeing nice blocking for Fitzpatrick tossing pick sixes ,and losing games,

    who would want to see poor blocking on the pick sixes?

    • mf13ss says:

      – Kyler Murray is undersized and will probably get killed playing NFL football as a QB
      – Dwayne Haskins is a one-year wonder at Ohio State, and as such, may have taken the NCAA by storm in not knowing his game
      – Drew Lock is the next Blaine Gabbert (<– "The Real American")

      This QB class is WEAK, David.

      • Those aren’t facts, just some opinions.

        Murray isn’t available, so it’s not even important who or what he is to Miami.
        But there are plenty thinking Drew Lock has a legit chance to make it in the NFL.

        and Drew Lock has a chance to be a starter,
        Fitz, doesn’t

  35. Tim Knight says:

    I have no idea if any of the QBs in this draft are franchise QBs. Nobody in the biz projects them as such either. Potential yes, but none of them are can’t miss prospects. But we know QBs get elevated.

  36. MF, why does it matter if a QB class is weak, when we have never drafted a class of QB. It’s irrelevant what the class is.

    We only need one, why worry Murray is undersized for the cardinals? That’s their concern, not ours.

    We only have to feel confident in the one we select, if Miami can find a guy they believe in, they should or probably will go for it.

    You claim You beli be Lock is just another apGabbert, then please explain why the team has met three times with Lock? Why would they repeatedly meet with a guy they feel isn’t their guy?

    They have to at least think it’s possible he IS the guy, and they are trying to figure out who and what he is, and how will he fit here

    I can’t believe Miami would meet 3 times with Gabbert, they haven’t

    • wyoming85 says:

      Because they are trying to figure out if he’s Marino or Gabbert!

      • I can roll with this, lol. For a joke., it’s funny.

        I’m sure Fins aren’t even thinking about Gabbert, why would they.

        But who would go watch Fitz play?
        What if fans say I’ll wait to next year to attend, Dolphins have a weak QB class

  37. pheloniusphish says:

    Some people call me the space cowboy yeah
    Some call me the gangster of love
    Some people call me Maurice
    ‘Cause I speak of the pompitous of love

    • Great song! But it’s pompatas , You misspelled it

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Isn’t the line “properties of love”?
      There’s no such word as “pompitous”
      Steve Miller just mumbled and it sounded like that.
      He tried to cover for himself in several interviews, but
      Steve Miller has never been thought of as very bright,
      so even his interview answers are ridiculous.
      “Means whatever you want it to mean”
      was his best explanation.

      then again,
      “Somebody get me a cheese burger!”
      was a great line.

      My question is why Ph-Phish
      put those lyrics here at this time.

  38. BailBondMike says:

    Disagree bro, most of the best QB go in the first round, look it up
    2nd Drew Brees
    2nd Brett Farve
    2nd Boomer Esiason
    2nd Randall Cunningham
    2nd Ken Stabler
    2nd Ron Jaworski
    3rd Nick Foles
    3rd Joe Montana
    3rd Russell Wilson
    3rd Dan Fouts
    3rd Jeff Hostetler
    3rd Fran Tarkington
    4th Dak Prescott
    4th Kirk Cousins
    4th Rich Gannon
    4th Joe Teismann
    4th Sonny Jurgensen
    5th Mark Brunell
    6th Tom Brady
    6th Mark Rypien (91′ Super Bowl MVP)
    8th Trent Green
    9th Johnny Unitas
    9th Brad Johnson
    13th Brian Sipe
    17th Bart Starr
    Undrafted Kurt Warner
    Undrafted Tony Romo
    Undrafted Warren Moon
    Undrafted Jeff Garcia
    Undrafted Dave Krieg

    There are more. History shows it’s a crapshoot. Yeah, you can list the Mannings, Rivers, Rodgers, etc. but the list of 1st round QB busts is HUGE (in a POTUS voice just for you). LOL

    • BailBondMike says:

      Also, there are 16 Super Bowl winning QB’s alone who were not drafted in the 1st round. That does not count any of the QB’s not drafted in 1st who at least took their team to the SB but lost.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Good post! I’ve posted about this before not like the list you did here. Of course the 1st rd gives you a better chance to hit on a prospect because they are considered the top guys, and that’s for every position. Because a good QB is so important they get elevated but it doesn’t mean they pan out as we know.

  39. BailBondMike says:

    “the list of 1st round QB busts is HUGE”
    see Cleveland Browns history of #1 QB busts. They haven’t found one since Bernie Kosar but have wasted a ton of 1st round picks.

  40. BailBondMike says:

    Hell, Minschew or even Mark Rypien’s son could end up being the best of this QB class. There are that many ???? out there for me on this class.

  41. Most of those are really old names, decades old, hardly a blueprint for 2019″, let’s look at more recent information,
    And Fuck potus , his alternative facts are never right, lol but

    The biggest question that most fans have is whether or not a quarterback should be drafted in round one or if a suitable option can be found in later rounds. Can those mid-round quarterbacks lead a franchise?

    Everyone believes that it is easy and far cheaper to draft a quarterback in round four, five, or six. That is after all where the Patriots found Tom Brady. The fact is that most quarterbacks do not find that kind of success or even half of that success in the NFL.

    Since 2001, 47 quarterbacks have drafted in the first round of the NFL Draft. 42 quarterbacks have been taken in that same timeframe in rounds two and three. Finally 122 quarterbacks have been drafted in rounds four through seven. That is a lot of quarterbacks to fill the rosters of 32 teams. Each hoping they find a franchise gem in the process.

    So what is the value of a first round pick versus the rest of the draft? For starters there is more failure with first round selections given the lower amount of drafted players compared to the 122 through 4-7. If we are speaking purely player per volume.

    In the first rounds since 2001, only 19 quarterbacks are still starting in the NFL. Carson Palmer retired this year and Patrick Mahomes will get his first season of starting duty with Kansas City. This 19 includes Ryan Tannehill.

    Of those 19 quarterbacks only 15 are considered franchise quarterbacks or franchise potential. Those 15 include Mahomes who is an unknown and does not include Tannehill given the fact he has not proven enough yet. It also includes Eli Manning, Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger, Phillip Rivers, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rodgers who are the only legit franchise quarterbacks in the NFL taken in round one currently active. Players like Jared Goff and Carson Wentz are still early questions but look solid.

    Those numbers drop considerably when you move to the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Drew Brees and Russell Wilson are the only two quarterbacks since 2001 who are franchise QB’s. The 49’ers are hoping that Jimmy Garropollo will be a franchise quarterback but that is still early to tell. The same can be said about Derek Carr as well. Tremendous upside but the jury is still out for now.

    Players like Nick Foles who just won a Super Bowl, Mike Glennon who will be a free agent for the second year in a row, and Andy Dalton are good QB’s but are they franchise players? Dalton looked like he was heading down that road but he hasn’t taken the next step.

    The numbers drop even further when you look at rounds four through seven. Three quarterbacks stand out as mentions. Kirk Cousins taken in the 4th round, Dak Prescott taken in round four, and Tyrod Taylor taken in round six. Taylor is expected to be replaced this year or next.

    Miami’s chances of finding a franchise type quarterback will drop outside of round one. In fact it will drop outside of the top 15. Since 2001, only two first round quarterbacks drafted outside of the top 11 have made a lasting impact on the NFL.

    If the Dolphins are planning to move on from Tannehill in the next year or two, or, if they are looking to find a quarterback ready to play sooner rather than later in the event of injury or poor play, then the top of the first round is the Dolphins best shot to find that player. Mid-rounds are good to find back-ups. Career back-ups unless you get really lucky.


    • BailBondMike says:

      David, just wanted to show, it’s a crapshoot. This class is the biggest crapshoot for QB in a very long time.

      • Yes, it is a crapshoot, but did You notice that the more recent drafts, since 2001 for example, appear to be less of a crapshoot than decades previous?

        Brady’s in the sixth just don’t seem to happen anymore
        Scouting is improving

  42. Since 2001, the chances of teams finding a great QB plummet outside the top 15, no amount of Joe Montana stats can change that

    • BailBondMike says:

      I guess Nick Foles, Russell Wilson and Drew Brees don’t count either.

    • BailBondMike says:

      This year it plummet’s after the 1st pick.

    • Tim Knight says:

      So if we’re not sold on any of the QBs at #13 then what?

      If you think they can be a franchise QB take them. You’re not setting yourself back so bad if they don’t pan out taking one at #13. It’s when you go all in and trade a ton of draft capital for one and they don’t pan out that sets you back.

      Based on what I’ve read and heard about this QB class from people in the biz is the consensus is lukewarm. We’re gonna find out in a few weeks.

    • There are only a couple or three exceptions, and those guys were second rounds.

      There are no more Brady in the sixths, lol.

      We all know that if we want one of the best, we have to pick early

  43. wyoming85 says:

    David I’ll give you this!

    If the Fins front Office thinks “Name the QB” is a FRANCHISE QB.
    I don’t care what you spend to get him!

    Next years first,plus this years 1st and second! Doesn’t matter!!!!!!!!

    But if you just get any old QB because you want, or need one???????????

    That may not be to effective in the long run!

  44. mf13ss says:


  45. naplesfan2010 says:

    Dang we have a tough schedule this year.
    At home we have Gase and the Jets, Allen and the Bills, and the pasties* per usghe.
    But this year we also have the Ravens, the Bengals, the Chargers, the Eagles, and the Redskins.
    That looks like 2-6, if that.
    On the road, we have the 3 division losses plus losses at Dallas, Pitt, and Indy
    and a near win at Cleveland, plus the victory over the Giants, unless we can’t stop Saquon.
    That’s1-7. Unless we can’t stop Saquon.

    So with that I predict a 3-win season while praying for the Bengals to be more dysfunctional than we are undermanned, Eli to finally give up the ghost, and Washington to turn to Mark Sanchez off the bench with 3 days’ notice for our game.

  46. MF, just curious bro, would You attend a Dolphins game with Fitzpatrick as the starting QB?

    Do You feel like the organization that charges for tickets, parking, concessions, etc, should provide a better quality product?

    I’ll answer next

  47. Tim Knight says:

    You really have to just let this season play out and accept that it’s like gutting a property you just bought. There are some good things about it but it needs a lot of new and better. It’s not going to be a home in 2019. Might start becoming one in 2020 and in 2021 you hope it’s where you want it to be.

  48. naplesfan2010 says:

    So my question is this. What if we go 0-16?
    No. … Hell no.
    OK yeah. What if we go 0-16? Will Flores survive that?
    Because I want him to.
    But almost no one survives that.

    How few wins would be the threshhold for firing Flores?

  49. wyoming85 says:

    Your reflection is from you soul brother!
    Mirrors don’t tell the whole story!

  50. wyoming85 says:

  51. naplesfan2010 says:

    Concerning David’s valid points about needing to take a QB
    in the top 15 to be sure to get a good one.

    We pick at 13 this year, so if one we like falls to us, David’s Law might indeed be invoked.

    And as Tim and others have said, if you just use your one First Round pick on a QB you like, and he doesn’t work out, you have not set your team back years trying to recover from wasting multiple high picks on a bust.

    Plus you probably still have a good back-up unless you are idiots and pick JaMarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf or Johnny Manziel.

    What is also really bad is when teams reach and elevate guys into the top 15 who did not deserve to be there on talent. Then taking a QB in the top 15 is a much higher risk.and again exacerbated if picks were bundled to trade up and get that guy.

  52. naplesfan2010 says:

    So do all of you guys think Flores survives no matter how few wins we get, including ZERO?

    • Tim Knight says:

      This season won’t get anyone fired. Ross has accepted it’s not about contending this year or next year. He bought in and gave Grier the green light to build this team in his vision along with Flores. Sports franchises do this all the time when the team they had never got to where they intended and they choose to rebuild for 2-3 years. Not sure why so many people are struggling with this concept. It’s not unprecedented.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        I’m not struggling with the concept, Tim.
        I’m wondering what happens if the wheels come off.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not just you and no insult intended. Many in the media and fans are struggling with what a rebuild means.

        To me all we need to contend is upgraded trench play and a QB. We can win with the other areas of the team if the young players continue to progress. The Chiefs had the season they had due to the emergence of Mahomes, their offense and pass rush. The rest of their defense stunk. We’re not void of talent everywhere, we’re void of talent in a few areas. This rebuild might not be as painful as people think.

  53. mf13ss says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    April 6, 2019 at 6:58 pm
    MF, just curious bro, would You attend a Dolphins game with Fitzpatrick as the starting QB?

    Do You feel like the organization that charges for tickets, parking, concessions, etc, should provide a better quality product?

    I’ll answer next
    You should already know what’s up… and there’s no need to explain it. 😉

    • Ok, thanks

      But my answer is no, I won’t go. I’ll wait until the team decides to deliver quality entertainment. Of course the Fins won’t miss Me, but will other fans come?

      There are tons of things more fun to do in south beach , besides watch Fitz screwing up

      I guess we will find out how much the fans love inferior football

  54. naplesfan2010 says:

    I don’t find Fitz unwatchable. Gabbert yes, McCown yes.
    But I would’ve been ok with Tyrod or Bridgewater to be our
    Interim QB. Fitzpateick is even more enjoyable than those guys.

    Fitz can move around. He’s not a doofus or a sitting duck back there.
    He has good feet and excellent experience. And he can throw TDs.

    He’s not an automatic L every time he starts.

  55. Rockphin says:

    David, I guess you don’t realize that Marino had two first round picks and a 2nd round pick blocking for him in 84

    • I do remember, Richmond Webb, Dwight Stephenson, and Keith Sims blocking for Marino.

      I’m not opposed to first round OL, just not this year.

      We don’t have a Marino this year, or a starting QB.

      If we are rebuilding, we have to fill in players we need , and We need QB more than any other position. I do want OL, in the second or later, right after we select our QB

      The problem with Miami is we have more needs than picks, we aren’t going to fill every need.

      And yes, we could skip the most important need, and the most important position , to draft OL.in the first, SMH

      I’m just hoping We don’t

  56. Naples, I think if Miami gets zero wins, Flores will not get fired, but he better do something in 2020, or Yea, he for sure would be on the hot seat then.

    In effect, he gets a one year hall pass, but even with the hall pass there are some expectations.

    What do We want to see in a first year HC?

    We want to see detail, discipline, innovation, leadership, getting the players to buy in, that sort of thing.
    And if Flores shows that, and gets several wins, I think that is probably a reasonable expectation.

    If Flores shows everything we want or need to see, I highly doubt we end up with zero wins.

    Zero wins means we aren’t even close to figuring all this rebuilding out, major questions will be raised, and a lot of answers better be there in the next season, or heads will roll yet again.

  57. naplesfan2010 says:

    We did not have any rain here David. It rarely rains from end of October through end of May,
    then it rains almost every afternoon about 3pm from June through Auugust.

    Plus more if hurricanes come in September or October.

    We have two seasons, wet and dry.

  58. naplesfan2010 says:

    I just barely survived 2007. I don’t think I can take that again.

  59. Rockphin says:

    Bob Kuechenberg, Jim Langer, Larry Little

    Not sure when these guys were drafted or if they even were back in the 70’s but they HAD NOTHING to do with the superbowl appearances huh?

  60. wyoming85 says:

    Well another frustrated fan!
    Not wasting his time or money on the Fins??????????????

  61. Phindog says:

    I’m going to fly out in October to watch Fitz. That’s what fans that support their team do. Well the main reason is to enjoy the fest 4 days of fun with all you fuckers.🐕

    • wyoming85 says:

      Mom’s not into fishing this year!
      So I might even make it!

    • The fest can and usually is fun and entertaining, hope You have a great time Phin Dog. I have had fun at the feasts even though Miami lost the game.

      But it is more enjoyable watching a hotly debated loss versus a total wipeout. I watched a Tennessee game on year where they beat us by four or 5 scores, people were a bitching, lol

      And if the team wins a great game, like the Miami Miracle, the place and aura is magical.

      So it’s a crapshoot, lol.

  62. wyoming85 says:

    • Tim Knight says:

      There’s a lot of fool’s gold perceptions out there with these QBs. There is no Andrew Luck prospect who was considered a future #1 pick the year before he came out of college just like Peyton was.

      I want to see last year’s QB class play a 2nd season before anointing them as anything special. Teams have tape on their tendencies now. They have to prove they can overcome that.

      • I posted first rd qb’s from 1990 to 2015 and when you look at this list and the list that was posted above of qb’s taken after the 1st rd there’s always been a lot of fools gold about qb’s; in every draft class.

        There’s no such think as a sure thing, although I think that if you take a guy who shows the ability in college and you know how to coach him then you’re ahead of the curve. But, who knows why these guys fail at the next level. Is it the coaching? Is it offensive scheme? Is it lack of talent around them? Is it the lack of a more competitive team?

      • Tim Knight says:

        The sure thing are the guys who always seem to elevate their teams wherever they are. When Luck is healthy you see he has elite ability. You saw the same in Peyton. No QB last year or this year was projected in that class. Know what I mean?

        Tua is being touted as that guy for 2020 but he’s had some durability issues. I have a hard time evaluating college talent these days because of how the game is played and the competition level is so skewed. Stats don’t tell the whole story. I think personnel departments have to dig deeper than ever in this era of football.

        Andre Ware back in the day lit it up with Houston in college. He couldn’t play at the next level.

      • But that’s just it. There’s more exceptions to the rule than there are those who ARE the rule. Most of the qb’s taken in the 1st rd didn’t work out. Since 1990, 2004 was probably one of the best with Manning, Rivers and Big Ben. 2011, 2012 and 2014 absolutely sucked and so did pretty much all the other years as well.

        I bet there were plenty of years, however, where draft pundits thought the qb class was pretty good or “one of the best classes in years”. I guess you just never know until you do.

  63. Man, you gotta just love this kid and root for him:

  64. pheloniusphish says:

    Naples – Purely random just to see how people would react.

  65. It’s actually easier flying into Lauderdale or Miami , then catch a ride to the game, then it is to drive Your car From Orlando.

    Miami is well over 200 miles, and on game day the traffic is bumper to bumper traffic, when You are still 20 miles out from the stadium.

    One year I wanted To Meet up with Tim, but instead listened to the first half on the radio on the Florida turnpike.
    It didn’t seem worth all the effort and expense , just to watch a half of a game.

    also I got a new offshore boat last year, so it’s like new toy time, lol. I remember watching the Fins on my smart phone while trolling for Marlin in the Gulf Stream,

    I’m addicted to fishing when I’m not working. And now that I quit My Job, I have more time.

    It’s a whole new world of adventures for Me. We all gotta die someday, might as well live while We can

  66. I went fishing in Key Largo in December, and stopped for gas in Miami on the way back. I was only at the gas station for five minutes, but that was long enough for some Miamian to steal My cooler full of fish from the back of My truck. I never even saw him do it.

    And it was the most first I ever caught, lmao and smh. Snappers,groupers, kings, Mahi, etc.

    The thief prolly sold em to the neighborhood . Now I don’t stop in Miami for nothing.

    I like the Dolphins, but don’t like Miami

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m sorry David, but I have to say if you would have shit on the fish nobody would have stolen them. JK/BB LOL

      • Lol. What sucked is I was in largo for a week, that was an entire weeks full of fish.

        The cooler must have weighed 150 pounds.

        I used to work in Miami, and have many things I’d like to forget there, smh

        It’s just too stressful to repeat or remember it all, so I just avoid Miami.

        That one time stopping for gas, was the first time I was in Miami in 2 years, lol. And the thiefs hit Me, go figure what it’s like living or working there

  67. I have one work project to finish up next weekend, and I told My wife I’m retiring after that.

    I’m 58, still feel great,and that’s why I want to retire now, so I can enjoy the things I was always too busy for, while I still have enough youth to enjoy it

  68. House is paid for, got plenty in the bank, and stocks are exploding.

    im not rich, but have enough to never have to work again, I just invest the hot performing stocks cause it’s fun and I Am the best at it.

    Friday my entire profile was up 28 percent, it should have been higher but I bought some dips for next week that didn’t go anywhereFriday and held me back.

    But I can’t complain, i love the competition factor of being Your best, feeling like You want to be better than anyone else in the world, and being rewarded More if You are doing More.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Sounds like Capitalism. The American way.

    • Yep, we can only work with whatever system We have.

      Florida wages are horrible, self employment is the only way to get ahead here.

      Mickey is cute and all that, but he don’t pay for squat, lol

      But the spinoff from Disney is enormous if You position Yourself correctly. Like that property I got rezoned and sold to Margaritaville.

      Opportunities for retail, real estate, storage, RV,s all kinds of business opportunities exist , because the Mouse brings the people here.

      Before Disney, there was only construction and Oranges or sugar cane related work, only construction payed ok, but never great

  69. One of my favorite movies is wolf of Wall Street, lmao. I’m not trying to be Jordan Belfort, he was a scumbag in real life, , but I love his aggressiveness and knack for the market. I always dreamed of being a top hedge fund manager.

    The shame of it is ,
    if he did things right, he would have been very successful and stayed out of jail, lol
    But he was intoxicated by money and it went to his head

    But I’ll never forget his sales meeting, buy or fucking die! Lmao

  70. ocalarob says:

    wyoming85 says:
    April 6, 2019 at 8:39 pm

    Lance Zierlein

    After speaking with a few different teams, I definitely get the feeling that Dwayne Haskins draft stock was more media created than team driven. I see Haskins falling on draft day and I think the chances are increasing that he is not the second QB off the board.

    7:29 PM – Apr 6, 2019

    well he sure has me fooled, 50 TDs 70pct compl pct….not just that but the way he moves in the pocket…his footwork…his passes from touch passes to bombs.

    Looks like the next Dan Marino, I think he’s the best QB in this draft

    • I had a feeling You wouldn’t like the Haskins shade.
      You have a point, the man proved himself on the field

      The sos is no ones played in the NFL yet, so they aren’t any good

      I hope Haskins saw it too, it will give him some extra motivation to prove them wrong.

      Even Marinonhad some critics, lol. What could he do but shut em up by his play

  71. Mike E. says:

    I hope Haskins falls all the way to #13

  72. naplesfan2010 says:

    I WAS talking about barely surviving the terrible season we had in 2007.
    Although Irma was very dangerous, I made it through that without a scratch and almost zero anxiety.

  73. naplesfan2010 says:

    So with that Steve Miller lyric Phelon, you were sorta … phishing for a reaction?

  74. wyoming85 says:

  75. stangerx says:

    Gase fired and now Tannenbaum is out. Grier is the only survivor. And he has been with the team since 2000. Seems he’s real good at that game. Anyone know if Flores got final roster say? If not that means Grier is the king.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Tannenbaum was already out as having anything to do with the football team. He was doing something else within the org before he just left for ESPN.

      • stangerx says:

        Never read what his role was, but Tannenbaum was still attached to the organization. But for sure that Grier was the sole survivor predated this. And then Flores came on to the island.

  76. wyoming85 says:

    • stangerx says:

      My first reaction to the building culture thing is that heard that before, but maybe this time they actually mean it. Do seem a lot more serious about it at least….. including burning the place down first.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Culture is really about how we do things around here. If a player doesn’t buy in they won’t be here.

      • stangerx says:

        So then maybe it is about building the right culture….. and for sure each team has its own.

  77. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, Flores has been preaching selflessness and team first. Meaning don’t worry about personnel stats. Do your job and what it takes to win the game. Kind of hard to sell that message and then tank. LOL

  78. Randy says:

    Blah, blah, blah. New regime. Same rhetoric. Don’t care. Until they show it on the field, I ain’t buying it. Talk is all we’ve gotten around here for decades.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Of course it’s about what happens on the field. But they’re not playing right now so it starts with the new coach’s foundation. The media and fans are the ones talking about this. Flores is just doing what he was hired to do. He isn’t holding his own press conferences to talk about culture. LOL

  79. Tim Knight says:

    Talk about karma. A rhino poacher was trampled by an elephant and then his remains were eaten by lions.

  80. Randy says:

    Just wait. The “We’re building a tough, disciplined team.” are coming.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well what’s he supposed to say when asked questions about what his vision is? “We want to build a not so tough and undisciplined team.” LOL

      Hey I hope we do build a tough, disciplined team. We haven’t exactly been that in recent years.

  81. wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 26 (IND): Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 5 (NYG): Zach Allen, DE, Boston College (B)
    Round 2 Pick 16: Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia (A)
    Round 2 Pick 27 (IND): LJ Collier, DE, TCU (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Beau Benzschawel, OG, Wisconsin (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Will Grier, QB, West Virginia (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 13: Lamont Gaillard, C, Georgia (A)
    Round 7 Pick 19: Gardner Minshew II, QB, Washington St. (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Kevin Givens, DT, Penn St. (A)

  82. Randy says:

    Do like Bellicheat does and say a whole lot of nothing. Lol

  83. Tim Knight says:

    Wyo, even the Giants 3rd would be over value in a trade from #17 to #13. The value difference is 200 and the Giants 3rd is worth 240. No way they’re giving up a 2nd.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Correction, I didn’t realize the Giants forfeited their 3rd rd pick this year to select CB Sam Beal in the 2018 Supplemental Draft. They have the Browns #95 through the Patriots from the Beckham trade. That pick is valued at 120 so they’d have to give us another pick to trade up from #17 to #13.

  84. The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 7, 2019 at 2:29 pm (Edit)
    Talk about karma. A rhino poacher was trampled by an elephant and then his remains were eaten by lions.


    Can’t beleive you left off the best part

    After the Lions enjoyed their meal and digested it

    A marching band of flies marched over the 💩 playing Louie Louie, Naked Gun style

  85. olddolphan says:

    DID A PARTIAL REVIEW of last year’s draft. ONE of the low lights was taking Gesicki and Smyth with the 2nd and 4th picks. Gesicki had 22 catches and NO touchdowns. Smythe had 6 catches and NO touchdowns.

    SOMEONE on this board said (not long after that draft) that he’d rather have Gesicki and Smyth’s projected out put over Jarvis Landry’s. Well, time may yet prove him right, out put wise. But it DIDN’T HAPPEN LAST SEASON. MORE to the point, good ole GRIER is still, I believe, heavily involved in the process of who we draft.

    THAT’s VERY typical of Steve Ross.

  86. olddolphan says:

    SPEAKING OF LITTLE STEVIE BLUNDER, HERE’S another cumulative look at Ross’s record as majority owner of the Dolphins. From 2009 through 2018, Ross’s teams have won 72 games and lost 89 (including an 18 point playoff loss to the Steelers after the 2016 season. The PREVIOUS OWNERS OF THIS FRANCHISE combined have a 380-271-4 record. That’s 109 games OVER .500!!

    IF Ross’s boys have a 5-11 season THIS YEAR, his career record will fall to 77-100, a full 23 games under .500. As incredible as it may sound, the richest owner in Dolphins’ history has the worst record by a mile!!!

    • stangerx says:

      5-11 is real, real possible. Could be even worse. But no pain no gain guess is the new motto……. and there is some sense to that, including all the cap room we will have next year.

  87. stangerx says:

    Far as I could tell Smythe did what he was drafted to do pretty well…. and that was block. Now Gesicki is a different topic. We just have to hope he is gonna bloom for us down the road.

    And for think we can assume Grier is heavily involved in the draft process. Might not be watching as much tape as before, but he’s the desk where the buck lands.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There’s going to be competition at TE this year for sure. Dwayne Allen is a solid seasoned vet. Clive Walford has shown flashes in his 4 years in the league though his last two seasons he wasn’t productive. Maybe he can revive his career in Miami. 5th year Nick O’Leary showed some promise last year for us but kind of disappeared later in the season. Then you have the two young bucks in Gesicki and Smythe.

      • stangerx says:

        I think we will be seeing more than a few 2 TE sets. And Flores actually might love Gesicki as an “is he a TE or is he not” option.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Agreed. Allen will do what he did in NE last year and that’s block a lot. Smythe will be the other TE when we want to go big and run the ball. They’re both capable of slipping out and catching some passes but I think blocking will be their forte.

        We all know Gesicki is more pass catcher than inline traditional TE. We’ll see if he improves his overall game. Obviously would like to see him get more targets and be more productive as a receiver. Some of that will be about scheme and some of that will be up to him to force the issue because he’s making plays.

        I do like our TE group from a competition standpoint. The best 3 will be active one game day, maybe 4 depending on game plan, and the 5th may not make the team if we keep just 4.

  88. Mike E. says:

    If this isn’t a great year for a QB, and Haskins falls to us at #13, I’d consider that a gift from above, and it’s not nice to refuse such a gift. I’d take him so fast they’d have 15 minutes to announce and discuss the pick!

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’ve looked into his scouting reports recently and multiple draft pundits have pointed out his warts and some are alarming if they’re right.

      He has slow feet, accuracy issues beyond 10 yards. He wasn’t pressured much and had easy safe throws a lot of the time and playmakers to turn short catches into big run after the catch plays and TDs. They don’t seem to have issues with his character, football IQ, size and arm strength. There just isn’t much film on him avoiding pressure and making highly contested throws. A QB has to be able to do that in the NFL because most games are no walk in the park. He’s sounds like a QB who’s going to need quality protection to succeed.

      I’m not trying to bash the guy, I’m just sharing information that I’ve now read and heard from multiple sources. So it’s out there.

  89. Krishna says:

    I sure wish we bring back the TE in our offense as a weapon. I do miss the good ol days in that respect.

    Hope that doesn’t throw a “wet towel” on anyone or their opinions here on the blog.

    In fact. I value most here and their football opinions, truly some of brightest football discussions/opinions I read here.

    • mf13ss says:

      I totally concur with ya here, Krishna. I think our TE room looks really good, and with some up-and-comers in Gesicki and Smythe.

      • Krishna says:

        I was pretty excited last year when they were drafted. I think Mike E. smoodged his robe when that happened.

        Not sure what you’re issues are mf13ss, but please don’t misquote or mischaracterize my blogging. Thanks. Let’s leave it at that and move on.

  90. wyoming85 says:

    You can have your TE if I can get a FB!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Tim Knight says:

      We have been looking at FBs in the offseason. That’s what I’m most excited about this offseason under a new staff. Seeing what kind of team they’re trying to be.

  91. mf13ss says:


    Sorry about the “wet towel” comment directed at ya, as I felt compelled to defend so many on this blog who truly enjoy the hobby of mock drafting and playing armchair GM. I don’t think any of us here truly believe that we’re on the cusp of becoming an NFL GM, seriously.

    So many here are quite compassionate about our Phins, that’s all, sir. We’re all good, but ’tis the season of the mock draft! We’re surely going to be reading some passionate viewpoints, as has been the case since the Sun-Sentinel days back with Omar. I hope this finds you in good spirit, man!

    • Krishna says:

      Thank you and just saw this.

      Everyone on this blog has an opinion and is passionate about the Dolphins. It’s easy to be a critic/fan and I was throwing a bone to the “experts”. That is all.

      • mf13ss says:

        It’s all good, my friend. So long as we have passion for our Phins, we’re UNITED! I haven’t any issues with you, Krishna. Thus, there is no axe to be buried. As you were, sir.

  92. Randy says:

    They’ll just draft an HB and make you all happy.

  93. Tim Knight says:

    A big part of this 2019 season is going to be this coaching staff seeing what they have and who they believe in moving forward. That’s why we need as much competition as possible in all phases to find those guys and weed out who doesn’t fit.

    We’re going to have more firepower to add more talent by this staff in 2020 with a lot of cap and potentially 10 or more draft picks depending on compensatory picks and trades etc. We currently have 9 picks in 2020. 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 7.

  94. mf13ss says:

    I firmly believe that we’ll be going DL and OL, or OL and DL, back-to-back this Draft (hey, I could be very wrong!). For all I know, Dwayne Haskins could be sitting there for us @ R1P13, and we run to the podium… and I think I might too in that case, but I doubt he’s going to fall to us.

    Anyway, I think we will have our answer at DL, if our OL targets go before we pick @ R1P13. But if we do go OL @ R1P13, we’d better (again, JMO) have a good DL prospect @ R2P16.

    I offered my first Phins Mock Draft yesterday, with the hopes that DE Jaylon Ferguson will be there for us @ R2P16, but I HIGHLY doubt it. I’m not going to officially amend it (but probably will soon, LOL!), but I think Oshane Ximines, DE, Old Dominion, would be my second choice if Ferguson is already off the board.

    I should just do a bloody Draft board, but that’s just so boring to me (and I’m sure others). I’d rather make definitive picks and see what happens. That there is FUN to me! And that’s how we used to roll back in the SS days with Omar.

  95. Randy says:

    At this time of year, why would any reporter assume or think somebody on a team is giving them accurate information…..ever?

  96. Krishna says:

    I do think we build the trenches as best we can this year. I think it lays the foundation for the future.

    Maybe Haskins if he’s there if the FO and coaches believe in him.

    I think a shutdown D always gives you a chance to win games.

    • mf13ss says:


    • Tim Knight says:

      I agree with your last point and always have. If we land some good impact up front on defense we could be a quality defense this season. I like a lot of our young defenders and I think they fit the type of player the new staff would look for.

      I said yesterday, upgrading the trenches and QB makes us a contender right away. We’re not void of talent everywhere. We have playmakers on both sides of the ball. We have specific voids.

  97. Randy says:

    Players. Such as that post by Zierlein about Haskins. It could be smoke screen material to try to influence the draft. What team would actually tell a reporter what they are thinking anyway? That would be stupid.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Oh okay but who’s saying that? My post on Haskins came from about 5 different pundits saying the same things. I get it, that’s kind of what I saw watching him for the first time. The game was pretty easy for him most of the time because OSU was a top team.

      I like the kid’s personality and would love a QB like him if he has the ability to be a quality NFL QB. I’m just not sold on him. But I don’t think taking a QB at #13 if he’s close in grade with other available prospects is a mistake because he’s a QB. If there is a guy at another position who is clearly rated higher as a better chance for success I’m taking him.

      We have no idea what we’re going to do because we’ve never seen Grier as the top dog at GM with Flores and his staff. This is the excitement we get to have this year because I’m sure most of us think we’re not going to have a winning season. Allen and McKenzie are new personnel people too. We have nothing to draw from to make predictions. LOL

  98. mf13ss says:

  99. Randy says:

    I didn’t read your post on Haskins. I just meant these reports we hear about teams giving people info on players.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Oh, you mentioning Haskins made me think that’s what you were referring too because it was a recent post.

  100. mf13ss says:

    Anyone hear about the Twitter feud going on between Antonio Brown and JuJu Smith-Schuster? Man, AB is such a douche bag.

  101. Krishna says:

    I agree we have some talented areas on our team, WRs, DBs, LT, RBs, LBs. and some very weak areas, OL, DL, and QB.

    We’re a .500 team. Not good enough.

  102. Krishna says:

    Unfortunately, our weaknesses directly impact are strengths…..weakens the entire team.

  103. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 7, 2019 at 7:19 pm
    He turned into a me guy.
    What is it with the NFL WR position that so often turns ferocious competitors into divas? I don’t see it in other sports, as much as I do the WR position in the NFL. It’s weird!

  104. Krishna says:

    Semantics…..rebuilding/relaying the foundation for the future. Getting rid of bad contracts, dead money, accumulating draft picks, but retaining our strengths.

    I guess one could argue we have no strengths, so the nuclear option is the only option. That’s not what I see, though.

    • mf13ss says:

      I hear ya, Krishna… I honestly do. Had we put more focus on the O-Line, I think we were building a winner. That, and Tannehill wasn’t the answer at QB.

      I very much dislike the nuclear option as well, but we’ve drafted so poorly and for too long.

  105. Tim Knight says:

    Krishna, it’s not worth a lot of time. We agree. Communication breakdown. 🙂

  106. Krishna says:

    I think a lot of us are saying the same thing and have been for a long time. Maybe, this is the time.

    We can only hope.

    That’s why I believe in BPA or all-in for the QB you want with full conviction in the 1st round. Is the FO all in with any of the QBs in this draft let alone the 1st round? I’m not, but I’m an armchair GM.

  107. Krishna says:

    Tannehill was not ready (short college experience), had skills, and poor coaching. Hard to succeed.

  108. mf13ss says:


    It was good talking today with ya, man! You and I agree so very much on a LOT of football matters, sir. And as always, it’s ALWAYS alright to disagree… I respect you!

  109. mf13ss says:

    I’ve done some homework on one Justin Hollins. I’m sorry, but I’m most unimpressed. He’s a “one-trick pony” who doesn’t have ANY kind of arsenal of pass-rushing traits. He’s speedy, and that’s it.

  110. Krishna says:

    Who’s the best interior DL at 13 in the draft and will that be the BPA? That would be my pick.

  111. Krishna says:

    Interior DL, DL, DE (is that edge these days?), RT. Interior OL is my order of need/BPA. Hate to go RT at 13.

  112. Rockphin says:

    It’s about making the right calls — not passing on Drew Brees twice, picking Gronk and not Misi, picking T.J. Watt rather than Charles Harris, picking Dallas Goedert rather than Mike Gesicki, picking Ziggy Ansah over Dion Jordan and on and on.

    Philosophy is good. Principles are good. But we’ve pretty much seen them all tried already — at least I have.

    Good decision-making?

    Now, that would be new.

    Preach Mondo

    • wyoming85 says:

      Screw Mondo!

      Yes let’s hope the Research crew is better than what we had!

      But then again how many times did the previous regimes go off the rails to get their man?

      And that would be why they are gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Rockphin says:

        see, that’s the thing though. They are NOT gone. Most of the scouting department doesn’t turn over when the GM’s come and go. Grier had been here for 15 years. He WAS GM last year. This isn’t a “fresh start” it is the SAME PEOPLE only now Grier get’s final say rather than Mikey tradey pants. 90% of the scouting department hasn’t changed.

  113. wyoming85 says:

  114. wyoming85 says:

    I’m not sure what your looking for?

    If you truly want it completely torn down, the easiest way is to change the colors!

    The popular one is Red and White!

    I hear they have the greatest QB of all time over there?????

  115. wyoming85 says:


  116. Rockphin says:

    Wyoming, I hope that the decision makers make better decisions.

    I was responding to your post of “let’s hope the research crew is better than what we had”

    it is MOSTLY the same crew was my only point.

    Any perceivable difference will most likely come from the coaching / scheme change. IMO

    I am not a fan of the Grier pick and I am on record saying I’m not a fan of Flores and trying to copy “the patriot way”

    it’s been two decades and no one has been able to do it yet.

    • Rockphin says:

      but I can only wait and see right now so

      wait and see, root for positive change.

      They already doomed themselves though.

      They re-signed Denney.

  117. steveccnv says:

    It’s about making the right calls — not passing on Drew Brees twice, picking Gronk and not Misi, picking T.J. Watt rather than Charles Harris, picking Dallas Goedert rather than Mike Gesicki, picking Ziggy Ansah over Dion Jordan and on and on.
    If any other team had taken Brady, it’s likely he’d never have amounted to much, let alone win an SB.

    It’s not just about who you select. That player has to fit in with what you’re trying to do, and the coaches have to put them in a situation that works for the player and the team.

    With our shitty QBs and coaches, if we had drafted Gronk he may have been a JAG.

  118. wyoming85 says:

  119. Rockphin says:

    I was really psyched about getting Raekwon and all the pre-season hype about his leadership, etc up until he blew his knee on the first play of his NFL career. He was disappointing his second season while still coming back from the knee injury. Now I am holding out hope again. Fingers crossed!

    Good article


    • D says:

      Last year essentially was a rookie year and our DC didnt really have a cohesive strategy. I think i can give him a pass for last year. He did start coming along last year towards the end so it could be a matter of him finally getting up to NFL speed.

      • Rockphin says:

        yeah, as the article I posted the link to says, he came on towards the 2nd half of the season. I hope the ^^ trend continues.

        “Merely 13 months removed from the ACL injury, McMillan led all NFL linebackers in run stops (PFF stat for stops within two yards of the LOS) from week-five to the end of the 2018 season”.

  120. stangerx says:

    “I’m not a fan of Flores and trying to copy “the patriot way”…it’s been two decades and no one has been able to do it yet.”

    Rock — That is one interesting and good point. What they do has been out there on tape and in roster/draft moves for more than a decade. And a lot of their coordinators have moved on to try it elsewhere as HCs as well. That not much success by itself should be a golden ticket into the HOF for the evil genius. Yeah he has had Brady….. but it is more than that.

    • Rockphin says:

      it’s because Belicheat sold his soul down at the cross roads.

      Brady went down for the year with a blown knee, Castle gets them 11 wins and they get draft picks for Castle, Castle gets a big contract and then slides back into a backup roll.

      I think it is more Belicheat than it is Brady, who IMO is a very good system QB. Take TB out of NE system and he is not the HOF QB he is today. (Again IMO)

      The whole Flores hire just felt like grasping for straws to me. Yeah, he was around NE for a while, but Patricia called plays the year before him. He had only one year as a “coordinator” without ever, you know, ACTUALLY being a coordinator.

      I hope I’m wrong, but I feel like we are going to be hitting the reset button again 3 years from now.
      Al Groh
      Josh McDanials
      Eric Mangini
      Romeo Crennel
      Charlie Weis
      Bryan Flores?

      • stangerx says:

        I hope you are wrong too. But get the concern. Same time, Flores least says what you want to hear and the reports are good. Plus he did keep a job (and different ones) under the evil one for all those years. So he is at least a capable coach.

  121. D says:

    wyoming85 says:
    April 8, 2019 at 9:11 am


    This time last year, he was back in town for our Spring Game. Now, he’s doing box jumps.

    We’re so proud of you, @RyanShazier! Keep going 💪 pic.twitter.com/NoyXf1Qdo3

    — Ohio State Football (@OhioStateFB) April 8, 2019
    Indeed, but it makes me nervous that he might try to play again. The position he plays and the style of play he plays makes me worried he would be just a few hard hits from tragedy.

  122. Rockphin says:

    Miami Dolphins Sign Ricardo Louis

    Now that begs the question

    Who is Ricardo Louis?

    (answer: training camp legs)

  123. stangerx says:

    Had a couple drinks with a Pats fan last week. Told him whoever first came up with the “evil genius” was right times 2. Got a laugh. His reply was his brother lives in the same town as Belichick where the running joke is you’d never know it cause noone ever sees him. Maybe he just holes up and watches tape during the offseason.

  124. D says:

    Rockphin says:
    April 8, 2019 at 6:54 am

    It’s about making the right calls — not passing on Drew Brees twice, picking Gronk and not Misi, picking T.J. Watt rather than Charles Harris, picking Dallas Goedert rather than Mike Gesicki, picking Ziggy Ansah over Dion Jordan and on and on.

    Philosophy is good. Principles are good. But we’ve pretty much seen them all tried already — at least I have.

    Good decision-making?

    Now, that would be new.

    Preach Mondo
    There are a bunch that ya missed too, and i see your point, you have to pick good, but hindsight is always gona look that way. The Dion Jordan pick, yeah it blew up in our face. Still the value of that trade was HUGELY in our favor, we gave up almost nothing to move up several spots. The pick busted, but the trade was a good one. Also, Dion Jordan was on everyone’s radar, Philly was going to take him if we didnt move up and get him. Its not like we are stupid and had been high on a guy that no one else liked, we were high on a guy everyone else was also high on.

    Goedert over Gesicki, i know how you feel about it, but Gesicki was considered to be a better offensive weapon. That what they were looking for when they made the selection. Im not surprised they made the selection even though i kinda felt the same as you did about him being less appealing than Joedirt.

    Harris over Watt was the right choice too. It hasnt turned out that way, but comparing the two prospects, their game footage showed a guy who has an insane set of speed moves. He left players looking just stupid. He was arguably the best pass rusher outside of Myles Garrett, and maybe Derek Barnett. Barnett was the guy i liked the best and he was off the board by the time we picked.

    Misi over Gronk, i dunno what our needs were that draft, but all of our other picks were defense and one OL, so we obviously didn’t have intentions of taking a TE.

    I guess what im saying is, Mando is preaching about shit that cant be known until it happens and you are looking back and calling foul. Thats cheap and he knows better or should.

  125. Tim Knight says:

    So you guys are playing the hindsight game today. That’s always fun. LOL

  126. son of a son of a shula says:

    To add to the bad picks. Could have had Keuchley over Tannehill and Cousins in the third that year.

    • stangerx says:

      And at one point we could have have Brady in the 6th…. or maybe 5th if the Pats were ahead of us that year. Can promised you I was rooting for us to take him in the 4th — was that sure of him. 🙂

  127. Mike E. says:

    I’ll say this about the QB crop of this draft and next year’s draft. Sure, it’s possible that next year’s draft has more talent, but I don’t believe that there still aren’t 3-4 QB’s worthy of taking in the 1st RD in this year’s draft. I maintain that if Haskins is there at #13, we should thank the football Gods, just like we did in 1983 when Dan Marino was there at #27. Is it possible that we’re the worst team in the NFL this season? Sure, it’s possible, and boy, sounds like a great time to have the #1, 2 or 3 pick with Herbert, Tua and Fromm in that draft. Think of the draft capital we can get and how nice it would be to already have our QB ready to play and in our system for a season? WINNING!

  128. Tim Knight says:

    Dolphins have interest AAF defensive end Jayrone Elliott

  129. Tim Knight says:

    Just heard a report on the radio that the Dolphins, Giants, Redskins and Chargers have inquired about Josh Rosen. Good call Stanger!

    • stangerx says:

      If only instead of “Good call Stanger”….. it was they were “Calling Stanger.” I’d hand the phone over to GM Prof Lou. 🙂

  130. steveccnv says:

    A few years back, in a bad QB year, all the QBs flopped in the NFL, as they did that year in the Sr. Bowl.

    D, how were the QBs in this years Sr. Bowl?

    • D says:

      From what i saw and heard told to me by a buddy, they all looked ok, ups and down. Lock had the best overall showing during practices, showed more high end potential, but others would have moments that looked really good. A guy im seeing brought up around here a lot recently, i think by BBM, Gardner Minshew had probably the worst of the QB, but even he had some high points. I think Tyree Jackson came out with the most buzz around him going from a relatively unknown guy except for his freakish physical characteristics, to someone people i think could see raw potential in. Grier looked really good but didnt have as much zip on the passes he threw when he didn’t plant his feet, but was seen as throwing nice passes when he did get that amount of time.

  131. Randy says:

    It wouldn’t be optimal, but would it be the worst thing in the world if we drafted a QB this year and next with our 1st rounders? QBs ARE highly valued commodities in the NFL.

    • Tim Knight says:

      If you take a QB in the 1st this year and then next year it doesn’t show much conviction for the guy you drafted this year.

      • D says:

        I think it shows that you are expecting them both to fight to do their best every year and earn their place, then when a defined winner has emerged, you could start thinking about trading one. Still i dont think you take the one in 2020 if you are happy with the one from 2019. You may still select a QB, but it would be to add depth.

    • stangerx says:

      Randy — I say keep talking one till you find the right one. The ones that you know aren’t “the guy” then become trade bait for at least some back. But then I want to spend a 2nd on the Cardinals guy that they decided was not the guy.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The Rosen situation is different because it’s a new staff coming in the year after he was drafted. If we draft one this year and then next year why did we draft one this year? It shows you’re not sure about him. That’s not a good practice.

      • stangerx says:

        If Rosen showed like Marino…. sorta of thinking they would be designing the offense around him rather than using their #1 #1 on another QB. Still want Rosen though.

  132. Randy says:

    Screw conviction. I want an elite QB. If it takes me 2 1st round picks to get one, why not? Lol
    Actually, what I was thinking is that if we did draft, let’s say, a Haskins this year….and he didn’t pan out or look like he was gonna be the guy, wouldn’t be so terrible to draft another QB next year? Again, it wouldn’t be great, but the position is so important, is spending 2 picks to try to find that guy so terrible? Teams give up multiple 1st round draft picks to go get a guy. How would this be any different….except we’d have 2 guys. I’m just spitballing here.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’ve listened to many discussions about this with coaches and GMs and they all said that’s not a good practice. It means you didn’t have conviction on the first guy you took and is one season enough to determine he didn’t pan out? Obviously it’s an opinion but it’s one I subscribe to. I wouldn’t do it if I was calling the shots.

    • stangerx says:

      Randy — I’m right with you on that. So if you are spitballing I have a straw in my mouth at the ready. And if you really hit on a guy…. actually increases the trade value of the one who was not (so long as he is still young).

  133. Randy says:

    Couldn’t it mean you HAD conviction on him when you drafted him, but he didn’t show what you were hoping he would in practice and meetings….so you decided to go another way after gaining more information? I certainly wouldn’t tie my hands because a guy’s feelings may be hurt.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That means you blew that pick and it only took one season to convince you. That’s really bad scouting.

  134. Tim Knight says:

    Can any of you show one example of a team drafting a QB in the 1st rd two years in a row? I’m not saying it never happened, I just can’t think of one.

  135. Randy says:

    Yeah, but the QB position is a crap shoot anyway. I’m just saying IF it happened, would it be so horrible to spend your first on another QB next year? Everyone keeps saying we gotta get one this year…or wait until next year. I’m saying; maybe we can get one BOTH years.

  136. Randy says:

    Spitballing is a blast. As long as you don’t get one in the eye. Lol

  137. Randy says:

    Do you wanna be just like everybody else….or do you wanna be special? Lol

  138. Randy says:

    Baltimore Colts did it in 1982 and 1983— Art Schlichter and John Elway.

  139. wyoming85 says:

  140. Tim Knight says:

    33 Shot, 4 Fatally, in Chicago Over Warmest Weekend This Year. What a city! SMH

    • ElephantRider says:

      Yep. Getting warm now….here it comes. That’s the beauty of winter. They usually only have half that on the weekend!

  141. bailbondmike says:

    Could have had Keuchley over Tannehill and Cousins in the third that year
    Son, That is how I mocked it that year except I took Cousins in the 2nd.

  142. bailbondmike says:

    Re: Durval Queiroz Neto, What if we were to sign him to our regular PS and not as a “Pathway Player”? Would we be able to do that instead or does it have to be that way? Is he here via the program just as a way to gain experience and learn and not really a Dolphin? Just asking cause I have never heard of this program and how it works before.

  143. Randy says:

    You are really pissing on my cornflakes. This is a role reversal I’m not enjoying. Lol

  144. ocalarob says:

    Randy says:
    April 8, 2019 at 3:02 pm
    It wouldn’t be optimal, but would it be the worst thing in the world if we drafted a QB this year and next with our 1st rounders? QBs ARE highly valued commodities in the NFL.

    LOL who’d of thunk that ! a new approach to the problem.
    some say let’s build a foundation first but isn’t that what we’ve always tried to do along the OL and DL?? Jake Long…merling…Odrick…Jerry….pouncey…jon martin….dion jordan…b albert..suh..

    • Mike E. says:

      Tell ’em Randy and Rob! We could draft OL and DL all day, but until we get the QB, we’re just a team w/o a QB!

    • Tim Knight says:

      So because it didn’t work out in the past for us the trenches are now unimportant? With that sort of thinking then you look at the bust QBs taken in the 1st round and you shouldn’t take one because of that. LOL

      Not sure you’re really understanding the problem with drafting QBs in the 1st in back to back years. Once you draft the second one, the previous QB knows you don’t believe in him. The entire team wonders if the FO knows what it’s doing, and the first QB’s value just depreciated by a lot because you’re telling the rest of the league you don’t believe in him. And doing this does not guarantee you the second QB pans out either. It’s a dumb approach.

  145. CavalierKong says:

    I hope we draft kickers, punters, and long snappers with every pick this year so every single person on this board can be wrong at the same time!

  146. Tim Knight says:

    • stangerx says:

      2nd guy from the AAF. Sounds like they are looking for the guys with desire. And if you want an NFL roster spot — what better team to come to?

      • Tim Knight says:

        Exactly! He has a great chance to play here. Hey maybe we get a late bloomer who took the long road to success in the NFL ala Cam Wake. 🙂

  147. pheloniusphish says:

    Regarding Chicago shootings – 4 adults and 2 children at a family gathering shot in a drive by. Witnesses are not cooperating….

    You can’t always get what you want, but if you try real hard sometimes you get what you need.

  148. Rockphin says:

    there has been an odd change in the logic of the mock draft simulator the past few days. I know it is based upon the “big boards” developed by other people, but I switch up which boards I use and I have had Murray sitting there at 13 way more than a statistical anomaly. Did he get caught wearing a gas mask or something that I missed on the news/

  149. Rockphin says:

    wow I like the saying I just heard.

    Facts don’t care about your feelings

  150. Rockphin says:

    I did this one just for you MIkeE

    with this draft you are guaranteed to get your franchise QB


    With the #1 overall pick next season…..

    (but at least we get our backup in Grier) 😉

  151. Tim Knight says:

    Exactly my view of these signings. It’s a head start in trying to fill out the roster potentially finding diamonds in the rough. We’re gonna be signing lots of UDFAs too. Lots of competition this year for jobs under a new staff. Your history doesn’t matter. How do you perform in 2019 is all that does.

  152. naplesfan2010 says:

    I love that Stones song.

  153. mf13ss says:

    Check out the video…

    • Tim Knight says:

      Wouldn’t that be something. There’s our NT of NG. LOL

      One thing about Jiu Jitsu, they know how to use their hands and bodies in unique ways the average person does not. 6-3 325 and that athletic. Worth a look to me.

  154. wyoming85 says:

  155. mf13ss says:

    Durval Queiroz – Highlights

  156. naplesfan2010 says:

    If we are depending on AAF guys to make a meaningful contribution, we are grasping at straws.
    Samkon Gaddo at RB. 3 QBs, none viable.

    Swiss cheese OL. Total Sacks in the teens.

    UDFAs, street FAs, journeymen, and then a handul of talented players sprinkled sparsely.

    Here’s hoping we beat the Ravens on a bomb to Wilson from Rudock for the Fest.

    • Tim Knight says:

      No man, you’re giving players a chance to compete. Not depending on them. You’re overthinking it.

  157. naplesfan2010 says:

    Elliott got cut from 3 NFL teams in the last 3 seasons.

  158. Krishna says:

    Rock. You crack me up. I love the all QB draft……I hope they block to protect each other and open running lanes for them to take pressure off the passing game. Perfect draft.

  159. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 8, 2019 at 7:40 pm
    Wouldn’t that be something. There’s our NT of NG. LOL

    One thing about Jiu Jitsu, they know how to use their hands and bodies in unique ways the average person does not. 6-3 325 and that athletic. Worth a look to me.
    AND the back-flip, to boot! This guy is hopefully what we thought Jordan Phillips would be for us.

  160. Krishna says:

    I also agree with Rock about Grier, being there 15 years, and our scouting department. It’s not about consensus, it’s about doing your homework and finding the right players. Then, coaching them up. Lot’s of failure/bad decisions over decades.

    Evaluating talent with the same group concerns me, as well.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s not like we never drafted a good player. Grier has his job for this long because he’s good at it. You can’t climb down the tree and blame the 3rd or 4th guy for everything that happened in the past. What about the additions of Allen and McKenzie? Same group? Same coaching staff? Jim Caldwell from outside the Pats org. was a great hire.

      You guys are searching for negatives. Just go for the ride and see what it is rather than telling your soul it already sucks. LOL

      • Krishna says:

        I don’t think I blamed Grier to be sure. I wonder if our eyes (scouts) need to be upgraded. That’s his job.

        I’m not searching for negatives, but aspiring to superlatives.

      • Rockphin says:

        more like a passing comment was commented on and then that comment was replied to and then someone else commented on the first comment, then someone agreed with the reply, but changed the subject and then…..wait, What was I talking about again?

  161. ocalarob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 8, 2019 at 5:51 pm
    So because it didn’t work out in the past for us the trenches are now unimportant?

    i didn’t say that however other than tanny when was the last time we drafted a QB in the 1st round? we drafted pat white in the 2nd round 10 years ago.

    why haven’t we been successful over the last 20 years?

    we are a team who doesn’t draft QBs.

    doesn’t have to be a 1st rounder but you need to continue until you get it right.

  162. wyoming85 says:

    Holy Shit! We better draft a couple!
    We sure as hell can’t afford to rent one!

  163. The Flying Pig says:

    What’s the AAF?

  164. Tim Knight says:

    I like this too. LOL
    “Facts don’t care about your feelings”

    • Rockphin says:

      the guy on NFL network said something about a draft prospect and the other guy on the show said wow he’s not gonna like hearing that then the first guy busted out with that

  165. ocalarob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    April 8, 2019 at 8:11 pm
    What’s the AAF?
    a recovery place for Miami dolphin fans

  166. ocalarob says:

    Look at Pittsburgh, they drafted Ben and they’ve been good ever since, GB with Rogers, NE with Brady..Flacco…

  167. Rockphin says:


  168. Rockphin says:


    is the sound of sarcasm if you haven’t translated that in Rockeaze

  169. son of a son of a shula says:

    Orob, besides Ben being there they’ve (Pitt) just recently drafted both Josh Dobbs and Mason Rudolph with fairly high picks. We have an entire stable of undrafted Quarterbacks. The position is our biggest problem and the answer is sitting there in this draft. Haskins is the real deal.

  170. son of a son of a shula says:

    I wouldn’t rule out Devin White at 13, similar reasons to draft as Minkah ie; special player.

  171. Krishna says:

    Good point

  172. Rockphin says:

    A GILF Tim? Really? LOL

  173. son of a son of a shula says:

    If Clelin Farrell and Christian Wilkins are both there at 13 you almost have to take Ferrell despite Wilkins probably being the better prospect because we have like only 2 ends.

  174. Rockphin says:

    Holy crap!

  175. mf13ss says:

    I’ve witnessed the exact same problem since our ’04 campaign: NO O-LINE.

    We could have the overall first round draft pick this year and screw it up by drafting a QB… being we can’t (and haven’t been able to, since ’04) protect the franchise investment.

    I’ve seen many highly-rated college QBs come and go (on many NFL teams), being they were thrown to the fire behind a weak-azz O-Line.

    I do believe that Parcells had it right in drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan… being we had no O-Line to begin with. Matt Ryan would have DIED behind our O-Line, had we drafted him in the ’08 Draft.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I call bullshit on the whole premise – no offense but I do.
      Tannehill didn’t suck because of our Oline. He just sucks. Look at the passes he did throw. Missed wide open guys routinely, sometimes never even saw uncovered receivers, crap line calls, never getting out of bad plays, poor placement negating big plays, inability to bail on plays and taking stupid sacks, couldn’t/didn’t use the middle of the field, never ever walked the team down the field when opportunities to win games were there and it goes on and on.
      Good QB’s make good Olines more often than good Olines making a QB good.

    • Parcells wanted Pat White instead of Matt Ryan. Is he

      But this is what I talked of before.

      First round Ryan did well , second round white did not

      We drafted a first round OL, and had a second round QB, didn’t work out at all
      Parcells found out the hard way a first round OL doesn’t mean shit if Younhave no quarterback.

      Jake was a good pick for a team that already had a QB, or plannned to get one.

      And the argument of better blocking doesn’t wash, because Jake couldn’t do anything to prevent white getting hit in the head out of bounds

  176. Rockphin says:

    I’m watching hostile planet on NatGeo and they just showed the scene above and I swear I looked like my Avi when I watched it. HOLY CRAP

  177. Today I went into cardiac arrest and flatlined from a wasp stinger stuck inside my right eye

    I’ve been stung many times , usually doesn’t bother Me, but this one stung my eye. And had me fighting for life.

    Doctor says I’m fine now, so I convinced him to let me go home and rest .

    But lesson learned, if wasp stings You, remove the stinger asap if u can, and seek medical help.

    Don’t try to be tough guy, that makes it worse.

  178. Rockphin says:



  179. son of a son of a shula says:

    The last two Oline we drafted in the first round they let walk anyway so what’s the point.
    Between Long, Pouncey and James we should have expected 30-40 years of combined service. We got about 15.

  180. mf13ss says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    April 8, 2019 at 9:14 pm
    I call bullshit on the whole premise – no offense but I do…
    NO offense taken, bud… but I think we’re going to half to disagree on this one, or at least split hairs.

    Now, I AM with you that a great QB can mitigate a lesser O-Line, but we’ve not really had a great QB since Danaldo Marinagnus. However, our O-Lines have SUCKED over the last 15 years. I mean, we haven’t really given our QBs a chance. Don’t want to see a rookie having to come in, developing DCS*.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      That list of best pass blocking lines also featured most of the best QB’s at the top that’s not an accident. Guys who know where to go with the football.
      Tannehill was so bad he has everyone all messed up. We need a real Quarterback.

      • mf13ss says:

        I cannot disagree with ya on that one point (Tannehill), Brother. Nevertheless, we need to have a decent O-Line.

        Factor this: some of the best pass-rushers in the game today come over the Right Tackle position. We NEED a solid Right Tackle to complement Laremy Tunsil, and I don’t care who’s our QB.

  181. Gonna go back to sleep. Yo guys keep He vigilance up for a QB, lol gboodniyte

  182. son of a son of a shula says:

    M, I do agree we need some Oline talent obviously but I believe the best way to build a good Oline is to start with a competent QB that’s all.

    • mf13ss says:

      I totally understand where you’re coming from, man… and I certainly don’t disagree with you in any way.

  183. mf13ss says:


    One last thing… I get the sense that you think I’m funkin’ with ya regarding Dwayne Haskins. I’m NOT! I think I’d SPRINT to the podium to sign him, should he fall to us. Of course, I don’t think he’ll fall to us. Somebody is taking him before we select, and that includes a trade-up from another team.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I agree there’s no way he’s falling to us. Difference is that I’d go get him. Just like I would have gone and got DeShaun.

      • mf13ss says:

        I hear ya! And something I’ve learned? You’ve got an exceptionally keen eye. I just can’t do that (trading up) in this rebuilding year: BPA @ R1P13 is all but mandated. We’ll see!

  184. Randy says:

    You obviously missed the memo. Tannehill was a top 5-10 QB. It was just that everybody around him held him back! Poor bastard never had a chance.

  185. ElephantRider says:

    So Grier is the new whipping boy before the season starts?

    My view on why he’s still here is because he was probably the only guy in the room that was getting it right, but being overruled. That’s just my hunch on why our terrible owner kept him around giving him more power as well.

  186. son of a son of a shula says:

    71,428 per point (70 for 16th pick in the 4th round)

    Pick 1 would cost 21,444,000 to buy at that price.

  187. wyoming85 says:

    Blah Blah Blah!

    Wake me up when we take the best DE and not a QB!

  188. wyoming85 says:

  189. naplesfan2010 says:

    David man are you jivin us Bro?
    anaphylactic shock was it?
    nothin to play with … keep benadryl handy from now on.
    Plus get an epipen
    you’ll never be safe again.
    Once you’ve activated that response , you more likely to have it again.
    Here’s hoping for your speedy recovery.,

  190. naplesfan2010 says:

    Ricardo Lewis too

  191. ElephantRider says:

  192. Mike E. says:

    wyoming85 says:
    April 8, 2019 at 10:47 pm (Edit)

    Barry Jackson

    Dolphins were so determined to sign these two San Antonio LBs today before they left the building that they got them to cancel multiple other NFL visits this week: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article228987314.html

    10:31 PM – Apr 8, 2019
    Twitter Ads info and privacy

    Dolphins agree to terms with defunct league’s best pass rusher
    The Dolphins on Monday hosted a visit with outside linebacker Jayrone Elliott, a former Green Bay Packers played who led the defunct Alliance of American Football in sacks.

    See Barry Jackson’s other Tweets
    Need some DE’s on the roster because we’re drafting a QB in RD1 baby!

  193. The Flying Pig says:

    I kind of agree with Son about OL

    Do you guys remember the days when we used to say draft a guy and plug him in for a decade?

    We haven’t been doing that
    I tend to think that’s a trend around the NFL

    Between Long, James and Pouncey we’ve left a lot of years on the table when they moved on to another team

    I don’t want to draft a RT at 13 only to hve to replace him in 5 years

    If on the other hand we draft a QB at 13, I would be all for the next couple of picks being OL

    If we drafted a QB in the 2nd round, same thing…

    I don’t mind drafting OL at all
    But drafting a guy to handle the RT spot for 5 years while we try to figure out the other positions – that doesn’t really make sense to me

    • The Flying Pig says:

      It’s also a good draft defensively up front
      So we might get a better player at 13 if we take a defensive player

  194. The Flying Pig says:

    The thing about OL is, if you aren’t building a cohesive unit – 5 guys that work together, then it doesn’t matter if you bring in 1 or 2 guys that are high draft picks

  195. The Flying Pig says:

    ocalarob says:
    April 8, 2019 at 8:15 pm (Edit)
    Piggy You’re right the Heat does get their 2019 1st rnder…now all we need is a ping pong ball to land ZION.

    Yeah I liked it up
    We have a 1st rounder this year and next year

    I think I’m ‘21 we don’t have any picks – from the dragic trade
    The nba is so weird about future picks

    There are pretty good prospects in the top 5
    It would be amazing to land Zion
    But that’s like 1 in a million or something

  196. ocalarob says:

    regarding drafting a QB at 13…Grier has said his focus is on the trenches this year…what that tells me is..if lock or haskins is there at 13 one of them will be a dolphin….smoke and mirrors

  197. ocalarob says:

    or they really could be waiting for Tua

    • Mike E. says:

      I mentioned yesterday. Say we draft Haskins at #13. We play Fitz most of the season and let Haskins learn. Next year, we should be in great draft position, probably top 5, and with all those QB’s like Tua, Fromm, Herbert, teams will want to trade up in that area to get those QB’s. At that point we can bring in a bounty of draft capital, AND have our QB ready to play in 2020 who already knows the system. That’s a good place to be.

  198. bailbondmike says:

    I don’t think some of these AAF players we are signing are just camp bodies. They have some real upside and they have some NFL experience. When Jayrone Elliott was at GB he was behind some good LB’s put played well when he was in there. Not sure what happened in Dallas or NO but our staff likes something about him. I think they are looking everywhere they can to improve roster depth.

  199. steveccnv says:

    I agree with Pig on the OL theory of getting 5 guys to gel. I also agree with the QB making the OL better, by being competent back there. Peyton and Brady did this, so do guys like Newton, RG3 and even Lamar Jackson.

    It sure would be nice to get Haskins at 13 and know he’s the franchise QB, while sucking in 2019 only to trade out of #1 to get a king’s randsome.

    It’s all about the future this year.

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