Today HOF Miami Dolphins LB Nick Buoniconti passed away. He was the leader of the “No Name Defense” that helped the Dolphins win two Super Bowls. He was a very charitable, impressive individual outside of sports. He will be sorely missed.
RIP Nick Buoniconti
So training camp is here and I’ve failed to feel any excitement other than the dact that it started. I don’t think it’s the team’s fault necessarily, i think it’s just the nature of practices, how short they are, and how much less physical they have to be to meet today’s safety standards. We also had one of our coaches fired this week, pretty odd at this juncture. You could look at this a few different ways. If you want the positive spin, it’s great that Flores recognized a deficiency early enough and immediately took action. Some guys may have waited around to see if there was any improvement which could easily have cost us some poor play early on. Also on a positive spin, putting the O-line in the hands of Dave DeGuglielmo is a good thing as he is a very experienced coach, coaching since 2004. If you want to look at the negative side, Flaherty wasn’t a great hire for the rookie Head Coach Flores. He was also previously the O-line coach in 2017 for the Dolphins and I needn’t remind you we were awful as per usghe at that time. In any case, let’s hope for the best in this regard.
I was hoping to see some player really show well, and so far it’s just been a whole lot of “eh”. We signed former Jacksonville Jaguars WR Allen Hurns, who played briefly last year for the Cowboys. I really liked Hurns when he was tearing up the league along with Allen Robinson at Jacksonville. If we get something close to that Allen Hurns we did very well. I was unrealistically hoping for a strong start from QB Josh Rosen. I didn’t really expect it this early but was hoping for a surprise. Instead we found out he never had to identify the MLB in any stop in his football career. Seems so odd to me, I thought it was a given. This doesn’t make him any less a QB, but just something he will need to learn, and Josh Rosen has been a player who studies the game, so bet on him getting this down, as well as the offense too.
Anyone think maybe Charles Harris would be tearing things up? Another thing I hoped for, but it’s very early yet, and he’s going to have a chance to make some hay as the preseason games begin 8/8, just a week and a half away! One guy who the coaches seem to be very high on early on is LB Jerome Baker. He’s going to be an impact player, taking off from where he left last year. He can do it all, run, tackle, cover and rush the passer and he will be asked to do all of those things. An early revelation has Minkah playing mostly slot corner, but I would think by the time the season starts, he will be doing a lot more as he did last season. As long as he’s doing things he’s great at, let it happen.
Things I look for to change in the next couple of weeks. I want Gug’s to try and find that starting 5 as quickly as he can and get them playing together as much as possible. I think the earlier we do that the better chance we have of having a cohesive unit out there. I also want to see guys take step forward, especially the aforementioned Charles Harris and Josh Rosen. Whether Rosen begins the season as the starter is not crucial to me, but to know he’s good enough to do so if needed is. I would really like it if he makes leaps and bounds in understanding the offense and making better throws under duress. If he doesn’t accomplish this, we may not see him this year as a starter unless of course something happens to Fitz or he just plays awful, neither of which I want to see.Training camp runs until Aug 6th, and then our forst game action as I mentioned will be August 8th at home against Atlanta.
GO DOLPHINS!
#staythecourse
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Laird listed ahead of Gaskin.
naplesfan2010 says:
August 5, 2019 at 11:19 am
Looks like the national pundits are right.
We have a lot of no-name players.
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LOL @ Naples. that is NO. Name as in Number / Name
silly willy !
Hal Habib
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Rosen goes deep to Preston Williams. Pretty play. Need I say again Williams ought to make this team?
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using volume of murders during a presidency that spanned 8 years vs one that has spanned 3 years doesn’t really carry much weight.
There is no question that white supremacy is on the rise. (Actually not just in the Us but abroad as well) The Washington examiner (a right leaning paper) wrote a story about the increase this fall
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/may/23/white-supremacist-domestic-terrorism-rising-fbi-sa/
No question that white supremacy being on the rise predates Trump and when it happens internationally, you know it goes beyond US politics. And there is certainly no question that mass shootings predate Trump and sometimes have nothing to do with racism
But when a politician weaponizes racism for political gain, it’s going to inspire people to act out – it always has.
I keep saying it – stop both siding it
This is a serious problem that needs serious attention
It’s not just as it always was
It’s escalating according to the FBI
There’s a lot of factors, like the Internet making it easier to reach out to disturbed people who weren’t reachable. But rhetoric associating groups of people with crime like rape and drug dealing – that’s just playing to that audience. And that is what trump has done.
I’m a little more nuanced than blaming trump for mass shootings – since I agree they’ve been going on for a while. But do I think trumps rhetoric inspires people to act out in a discriminatory manner. I don’t think there’s a reasonable argument it doesn’t.
And yep, I’m gonna give it a break today!
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Double the number, half the time means that its on par with one another. You didn’t read the line i guess where i said this isn’t about Obama vs Trump its pointing out that the presidency has nothing to do with it. I’m using peoples assertions against their own argument. You cant say that this president inspires this kind of action and not say Obama didnt as well. I personally dont believe either of them inspire crazy, i think people are crazy. I think we have an out of control mental health issue and that also explains the fact that despite more restrictions on guns we are having more deaths than we did when there were less restrictions. This is a much more complex issue than, bad president, this is a much more complex issue than take away guns, this is an issue with a fuck ton of people who care so little for their own life and the lives of others that they feel justified in making a decision to kill. All the rest of this shit is the rhetoric, all the rest of these arguments are the distraction to the solution.
But what about? What about what about
I will never admit my guy is wrong when somebody else is also wrong. #whatabout
I dont have a guy, im not a political puppet. Also Trump isnt the first or the last to use race to garner support, the democrats have a long standing hate rish white people rhetoric going and yes it causes societal issues. They use the divide and conquer approach making us hate one another so that they can control all of us. Trump used that to his advantage and it worked for him too. Get ready for a fuck ton more of it, because the Dems just doubled down on it and are openly calling white people the devil for their own gain. You dont think the democrats are racist? You dont think AOC is racist? Come on, you guys whould look at the big picture and see that its not blood on each of their hands anymore, people are proudly bathing in the blood of discord, strife and hatred.
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That worked well! 🖕
LOL Phelon – I would think more like a civilian owning an 18 wheeler, or maybe an armored truck, the Power Wagon or F250 aren’t that big, but that was funny anyway.
Those would be like owning a tank. Which is legal BTW. Same for the RPG and Stangerx’s sawed-off shotgun. Just have to submit to a fingerprint based background check and pay the $200 tax. You can definitely own a MIG just need the same as above for the guns.
Hmm, they may want to take another look at those rules. Just curious Phelon, where does one obtain a tank, or a rocket propelled grenade launcher legally? Amazon? lol
Good question and I don’t really know other than from a collector. Where they get them is a mystery to me.
Piggy – I think the comments about Mexico sending their rapists and drug dealers etc was to create fear and awareness in order to allow him to get his border wall done. I don’t believe he’s against Mexicans that immigrate legally. Nothing wrong with being against illegal immigration, of any race. I don’t think the intention was racism. I also don’t think it was racist to tell Omar, who I view possible more racist than Trump, to go back to where she came from if she’s not happy here. I can’t tell you what to think, but that’s my view.
You didnt read what Trump said, just what the media said about what he said. Again you’re part of the problem, and why they lie on both sides, because perception is reality in politics.
I heard the sound byte last night Steve. He said something along the lines that Mexico is sending their worst people here, their rapists, drug cartel people. What are you referring to?
Sending Omar back.
“You cant say that this president inspires this kind of action and not say Obama didnt as well.”
I can say that
I do say that
Obama didn’t say when Mexicans sends it’s people they send their worst. They send rapist and murderers.
That was Trump
That wasn’t Obama or bush or Reagan or Clinton
That was Trump
Trump owns that
Stop acting like his behavior has been in line with everyone else
It hasn’t been
One president in my life has acted this way – trump
Rock – The two way argument or my guy is wrong because everyone else is wrong isn’t a but what about argument. If one sides specifically blames these shootings on on the POTUS when this type of thing has been going on well before he took office, it’s just a bullshit argument period. It carries absolutely no weight or legitimacy.
you are absolutely correct. Blaming one side or the other for an individual crazy’s actions is wrong. However, for the last 3 years every criticism stated about the meat head in office has been met with “whataboutisms”
Trump cheats on his taxes: Well what about Hilary?
Trump broke felony campaign finance laws: Well what about Hilary’s private server?
Trump family and inner circle are CURRENTLY using private e-mail servers: Ah, so what?
Mike E. says:
August 5, 2019 at 12:53 pm
Hmm, they may want to take another look at those rules. Just curious Phelon, where does one obtain a tank, or a rocket propelled grenade launcher legally?
Here you go:
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=rpg
That’s insane man. Now I’ll probably have the FBI and CIA watching me for clicking on that link. Absurd that it’s that easy. Who knows if they have any screening or regulations, or is it if your credit card is good, you can have it. Scary!
Those are training systems that fire a rifle round not a missile. If you were buying a real one, Class 3 weapons and destructive devices have to be shipped to a Class 3 FFL holder (gun dealer with a special license) who assists the buyer and holds the weapon until the background is done and the stamp received from the BATFE.
Everyone just blames the other side. The problem is with everyone involved. Trump and his rhetoric, the dems for their appose, instead of working with him, Trumps supporters for playing along with his rhetoric, the media from both sides, and even the victims themselves, at least for the El Paso shootings (not the individuals, but the group as a whole).
Once the problem is agreed upon, and only then, can a solution occur.
Everyone needs to get off their high horse at look in the mirror.
If a dem candidate had said this during the debate, they would’ve jumped up in the polls.
Mike – Here’s another source:
https://www.drivetanks.com/tanks-tracks/
I’m not clicking that one too, they will be on me like white on rice. Can you get tank with with fully functional artillery?
If you clicked on the site you would see that they are selling the opportunity to drive the tank and shoot the main gun, so yes. Of course you can buy ones that are demilitarized and don’t shoot with few if any restrictions.
Everyone is a part of the problem, I’m part of the problem, D I dont have a guy is part of the problem, Mike is a part of the problem, Piggy is part of the problem, David is a part of the problem…
Well I guess i at least didn’t piss you off yesterday! 😉
As Chris Rock would say tired, tired, tired…
Leave me out of it. I’m part of the solution (in my own mind)
Maybe you forgot this – 😉
Piggy – Sure, Trump said that. That means when someone goes to a mall and goes to kill Mexicans he’s doing it on Trump’s directive? That’s stretching the narrative pretty damn far. If the guy went to the border and shot up one of those caravans you’d have more of a case there.
If I just cited a an article to an conservative periodical citing fbi statistics showing an increase of white supremacy in the last year
Here’s another one showing that hate crimes increase 226% in counties where Trump held his rallies
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-rally-hate-crimes-study-maga-2019-3
These arguments you guys make – you are just ignoring a problem
These are bad arguments
This isn’t a puzzle, they guy telling people that people
Crossing the border are violent criminals want a his audience to believe that
And there is a good chance that some one in the audience will be unstable
And there is a good chance unstable people will act out believing something they heard
It’s not hard to put this stuff together
Instead, You are arguing that 1 + 1 = 3
Again part of the problem, that isnt what he said, it’s what the media said he said.
It’s actually what he said
“It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people“
This is a racist comment through and through
But I bet people will try to tell me it’s not
When people try to tell me it’s not
I’m not persuaded
But I certainly question that’s person moral compass
I don’t understand that his comment can’t make people puke in their own mouths
Causation or Correlation?
I don’t disagree that his words can cause someone who is unstable to act on their paranoia. And yes the racial divide that started becoming apparent under Obama continues to grow. But as much blame has to be payed at the feet of the politicians, media and other public figures like Don Lemon, AOC, etc. who are constantly laying the blame for all ills at the feet of anyone white. Do it long enough and often enough and even people who aren’t will eventually say “Fuck it, if I’m going to blamed for it I may as well live it.” The divisive narrative is owned by both sides.
That’s not a good excuse for trump being divisive
That’s just saying other people do it to
If America is going to be lead like a car fight between siblings arguing who started it we are doomed
We know some were violent criminals, but that’s not the point. The point is when it’s not nationally agreed on fault, then its everyone’s fault.
There’s no trash where I am, said the litter bug who threw trash in someone else’s neighborhood.
Schumer says Trump should vote right now on gun control. Ok Chuckie I agree, but you need to vote on closing the border to the illegals. One doesn’t get done without the other.
Tit for tat, you want one side to do something you have to give up something. No more this guy should do that shit.
Piggy,
If you think there isn’t hate spewing for white males in Democratic circles…you are living in a bubble. I didn’t just start with Trump either. Sure, Trump’s rhetoric can be an issue but so is ignoring it. You seem to forget the rest of that guy’s letter. He talked about politicians ignoring the immigration issue which they have for over 5 DECADES. We see Beto O’Rourke campaigning in Mexico. We see California make driver’s licenses for illegals. We see companies left and right using illegals to warp the job market. Democrats warp the votes in Cali, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico.
This isn’t just about rhetoric but politicians putting politics above their voter base. Trump was only elected because he seemed to listen to real concerns instead of propaganda. He looked to the job market instead of the feels market. He cared more about issues than being PC. Calling a person the right pronoun. Finding a new bathroom for people with mental health issues. Saying it’s racist that bad people come here. Bad people come here but where was the concern from our politicians? Bad things happen in our cities, where is the concern? Oh yeah, we can’t say anything because it will offend or anger someone. That doesn’t seem to be working. This was a frustrated white person that saw their hope being crushed and mistakenly blamed Mexicans. That doesn’t mean Democrats have stopped hating on white males or that their rhetoric is ANY better than Trump.s That’s a very myopic viewpoint.
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It just happens to be backed by measurable impartial statistics
But I’m the one who’s being myoptic?
that’s not how being myoptic works
Myopic is just looking at one issue. I guess you want all the facts behind the OTHER issues I’ve mentioned?
No I don’t want you to list distractions
You should look up myoptic – it’s a lot more derogatory than that
I posted links to articles showing a rise of white nationalism and statitiscial support and hownit has gone up during trump and around trump
And you want to argue that I’m not considering a lot of things that jusitfy it
That’s not being myoptic
That’s just excusing the inexcusable with other facts
Narrow minded is one definition. That’s not very derogatory and doesn’t seem to stray from my usage.
Maybe Trump mistook the Mexican illegals for the Mariel boat lift…
It’s one thing for you guys to argue
Okay he said that
Or okay it’s a harmful statement
But I like this about him
It’s another to Argue he didn’t say this
Those stats/studies mean nothing
Some one else did it first
Or it didn’t mean what you say it means
That’s just plausible denial
I guess that’s no surprise on a blog of dolphin fans who have to convince themselves We have a fighting chance year round
But again – the rise of white supremacy is a real problem
And Donald Trump is and has been fostering it
That’s all I am saying. And there isn’t anything I see posted today that does anythingother than rationalizing why that’s okay
Absolutely its denial, and you have denial too blaming Trump and not the other side. It’s both sides.
I didn’t make excuses for Trump. He says some stupid shit from time to time. But I don’t think half of what he says that gets called racist is actually racist. And when the left says it is, they are guilty as he is of being divisive.
If half of what he says isn’t racist
There’s a whole half that is
Half is enough
Okay 90% then.
“from time to time”….lol. But do agree his face is on the dart board for many folks.
Piggy,
Where has the discussion for uncontrolled immigration been hiding at for the past 50 YEARS? When did reparations for blacks really take off? What did you think Obama’s comment, “He could have been my son” engender for some people who might have been mentally off? Especially since Trayvon went back to start trouble?! Dems have put forth a hate whitey narrative for over two years where even sane, balanced, nice dudes like Tim are sick of it. Do you think a mentally ill person wouldn’t be affected? Do you really want me to list a comprehensive list of the nasty things Dems have said that could piss a mentally ill person off? Like the dude who tried to kill Republican politicians just a short time ago?
It’s not just Trump, it’s not even close to just Trump. “It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people“
Is that true or not? Is it true? Do you think their most successful people are coming here? Do you think there are rapists in any of those groups? Drug runners? The last part was over the top and I agree it was terrible. The rest…it’s just facts. I agree he should have worded it far better, but there were facts in that statement. Facts we should discuss instead of say “Racist!!!”
Piggy, can you link the statistics please. Not some article saying there are statistics but actual statistics. TY.
At least you get it, that it’s both sides. That’s what the people should be demanding, quit your fighting in Washington and get to work together.
It’s ridiculous we don’t have some form of background ID of the Congressional docket. It’s ridiculous that Trump doesn’t have his wall, that more infrastructure isn’t already being built, that the mentally ill aren’t institutionalized more often or a hundred other issues Congress sits on their ass over every year.
It’s not true
It’s not even an accurate description of who is coming to or how they come here
They aren’t sent like packages
That’s dehumanizing and racist to start
They often arent from Mexico just passing through it from Central America
But a racist wouldn’t know the difference
They arent anywhere near statistically committing crimes and a rate that warrants that generilzation. There are 47 million legal Hispanics Citizens who are swept in with that statement. There are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants who are swept in with that statement
In 2017, ICE, who publishes its stats deported less than 6000 convicted criminals. That’s less than .0001% of the population the president swept in with that characterization
That generilzation is completely untrue
If you have to ask if it’s true, you should be asking yourself why you believe that worth asking
That statement is a reckless shooting from the hip statement, completely unsupported by facts, experience or reality. It’s a dumb generalization. You should be identifying it as racist instead of asking me to prove to you it’s not…but…
60 million illegal immigrants came across our borders!
Holly shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What?
Sometimes I’m not very articulate with the written word?
But I’m pretty math savvy!
to get 6,000 out of .0001% you need to start with 60,000,000 😉
Why us it ok for any illegals to come across the border, let alone 1 criminal? The asylum thing is BS too, the numbers show 2 or 3 in 10 now claim it, when a short time ago it was 1 in 100.
It’s not 60 million border crossers
It should be the % 6000 is of 58million
It’s academic anyway since the the approx if undocumented people is a guess
ICE doesn’t just have jurisdiction over people crossing the border, they can deport people who have been here for years
So yeah, there are close to 60 million Hispanics In this country (not crossing) which includes legal citizens and non citizens (residents and illegals) which I’m arguing are swept into that statement
Why would we be talking about the american citizens and deportation numbers?
They have never been in the conversation?
Try the math again with just the illegal immigrants!
Of course they are sent like packages. What do you think cramming them in containers and trucks is considered? What do you think using children as a tool is?
Piggy practices reverse speciesism.
Piggy, I want the actual statistics. I’ve been studying how people misuse statistics the past year since the attempt to ruin Kavenaugh for no other reason than Trump. I want some concrete behind what fake news says.
Personality aside, just don’t like how Trump is trying to divide the country. Here are the divides he saw. But heck…. did get him elected even if might mean the end of the GOP down the road.
White vs nonwhite
Old vs young
Urban vs rural
White collar vs blue collar
Both sides do this successfully. He’s an asshole but America first should be the motto every year. Dems have turned to full socialism so I hope it’s the DNP that dies first tbh.
Maybe during elections, but all the presidents in my lifetime of both parties have tried to be POTUS of all in the country. Trump never switched off from campaign mode.
Stanger, do you really believe he’s trying to divide the country?
Yeah I do Steve. Keep in mind I at least used to be a real conservative GOP guy.
When you made a good decision this morning!
Fuck, where is that? I’m going.
Not in politicsville! 🙂
Guess you have your idea of a good decision and I have mine. 🙂
When not even chemicals, or air bags will help you!
I’ll still have mine! 😉
LOL — not sure exactly what science Hef going on, but hard to argue with his way regardless. And he could always do yours too. 🙂
True!
You make a very good point!
Trade weekends like a time share????? 😉
NewAge
You may be the first person I’ve spoken to that expects me to explain with statistics how associating a race with crime is racist
Which fact are you asking me to justify with links to stats:
That there isn’t a rose of white nationalism? Something the fbi stayed to the Washington examiner. You’ll have to dig for that one yourself
Or that association a group of people with a crime is racist. That stat is 100% accurate…lol.
You mentioned two papers and stats. Where are the stats you are using for your generalizations?
Piggy – I suppose there are exceptions to any rule, but people attempting to enter a country illegally are committing a crime (Although empty headed AOC disagrees), so right off the bat, their integrity and good will have to be questioned immediately. I mean, I don’t give a flying fuck what country they’re coming from before they get to Mexico, but that’s where they’re getting in from, and I’m not sure why you make such a point to define who they are. It doesn’t matter, they’re entering our country illegally, and it’s wrong! The border needs to be secure no matter what
Racist! 😉
That’s not a violent crime Mike
Do we really have to argue the difference between rape and crossing the border?
I think you know those are vastly different acts
It should matter to you it’s factually wrong
You should care
When you get into race or national origin – you can’t avoid the consequence of a discriminatory interpretation.
It might not matter that he told a crowd of people Mexicans are criminals, but it matters to Mexicans
stereotypes are just products of generalizations, when it comes from the highest levels, it’s just amplifying things that aren’t true bc people generally believe them to be true
You would care if some one associated you with terrorism bc you are Jewish and Israel is in the Middle East wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t that be unfair to you? You should care about accuracy. Everyone should care about accuracy. I would speak out against that if some one did it bc it’s morally wrong
That statement just plays on what that audience already believed to be true
Almost every word of it is inaccurate
It is a crime, whcih makes them criminals. If you can’t follow one rule, will you follow others? Not necessarily.
BTW – It’s myopic, which means near sighted or short sighted. So says the Optician!
Kevin Mawae says Zach Thomas should be in the HOF. Kevin is right!
https://www.miamidolphins.com/news/kevin-mawae-zach-thomas-should-be-in-the-hall-of-fame
The proof is in the pudding. Mass shootings happen and people start talking about presidents, politicians and politics. So obviously people think they’re connected. I don’t because I still believe in individual responsibility.
What does “individual responsibility” have to do with it? I accept that crazied folks are out there and always will be. And passing laws to at least mitigate what they do means a political recourse.
Lots of things in the world piss me off but I don’t kill innocent people because of it and neither does anyone else here. That’s a choice, no?
You got me on that one. No one here is thinking about being a mass shooter. Was just talking about how to deal with those who might be.
I think you are reducing the argument
You can hold some one accountable and still address other wrongs
In this case I’m not just talking about shootings
I’m talking about hateful rhetoric that I think is problematic
The way people speak affects our culture
When it comes from the top it affects our culture to a greater extent
exactly, that is what is playing out in front of us
I was pointing out how people say don’t blame people for the actions of others than turn around and do exactly that. That’s all. To me this is one of the biggest problems in this country, people looks to blame someone else rather than the individuals who actually commit the crimes. Too many people can’t keep their politics out of it.
the el paso shooter was inspired by trumps hateful rhetoric, cant be denied, unless its fox news blaming video games
trump said yesterday it must be stopped, but today takes no responsibility, blames video games, and has no strategy to fix it
the mass shootings and murders will continue unabated, they must be stopped? they are NOT being stopped
trump has zero credibility, he is never going to do anything he says to help the country
phel is correct when he said the people that create the problem will not be the ones to fix it
we need a new president ASAP, one that isnt soft on terrorism
Of fuck, here comes this babbling idiot with his far left rhetoric. So much for a sane conversation.
Trump didnt say anything about the Mexican’s here legally. His statement has always been about the illegals. The legals are immigrating, not running from Mexico or being pushed out by Mexico, which is what he meant when he said they send us their worst.
You can get you numbers from here Piggy!
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/
10,700,000 Illegals
6000 deported
5.6%
That’s what I said
But only if you are just looking at undocumented people
The statement trump made is broad enough to include anyone from there, not just somenone who’s not a citizen
That’s part of the problem with the statement
Irrespective of that
5.6% is a pretty small % to make a statement like that isn’t it?
wyoming85 says:
August 5, 2019 at 2:50 pm (Edit)
Why would we be talking about the american citizens and deportation numbers?
They have never been in the conversation?
Try the math again with just the illegal immigrants!
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When you say “when Mexico sends it people”. You aren’t just talking about illegals
If that’s what you mean, say it
That’s why I said other people swept up in it
I don’t intemperate it that way!
He has never said anything against Mexican / Americans That I’ve heard of!
So what your saying is not a fact it’s your interpretation??
And I can go with that!
As long as you represent it that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉
Piggy, watched a video of a border patrol agent from southern Texas a few months ago, and he was hispanic/latino. He sad in one day they detained 35 illegal immigrants within one of the caravans that were not from Mexico or Central America. I don’t remember exactly but I believe he said they were from Pakistan, China, Belgium and a couple of other Eastern European countries. What is that all about? They’re trying to get in via getting lost in the crowd. These border agents are being overburdened and they are dealing with dangerous people with agendas other than seeking the American dream.
Belgium?
That surprises me.
When you claim asylum you have to do it within the US borders or at a point of entry
If you claim asylum at a port of entry you might lose the right to a hearing
So it kind of makes sense for people from Europe, Asia and Africa to try to sneak in from a large border, I suspect this might happen from Canada too…just a guess
Yeah I was surprised by that to. My response was man they’re coming from everywhere.
when a rally goer yelled out,
shoot them, trump laughed and said only in the panhandle can you get away with that stuff, the crowd laughts, and he repeats, only in the panhandle
if i have to explain why this is problematic, SMH
its the video games fox said,,,, trump watched fox for his national strategy, and went with it
there is no hope to stop the shootings, no hope for American shooting victims, only encouragement for the domestic terrorist shooters from the white supremacist gang leader
D says:
August 5, 2019 at 3:12 pm
Trump didnt say anything about the Mexican’s here legally. His statement has always been about the illegals. The legals are immigrating, not running from Mexico or being pushed out by Mexico, which is what he meant when he said they send us their worst.
5.6% is 1 out of 19!
That aint very good odds!
the problem is not video games, Trump says it must be stopped, but due to his loyalty to the NRA refuses to present anything that will stop it
not only does he encourage death to Americans, he does nothing to prevent death to AMericans
he wouldnt fight for us in Vietnam, and he wont fight for us now either
he is soft on terrorism, always sides with terrorists, putin, kim jong un who he said he is in love with
how many more Americans have to die before we remove the traitor from office?
what i’ve always been taught is that you have the presidential election, two sides fighting for one position, when the dust settles all are suppose to fall back and support the winner of that election.
when Obama was elected you didn’t hear all this rhetoric, despite disagreements everyone fell in line and supported him, TWICE!
i just don’t understand why that isn’t happening with Trump?
the left is just over the top with all the attacks.
Its pushing people away too. Really dumb campaign for them.
I did hear it with Obama!
He wasn’t, and still isn’t very popular in some of the circles I run in!
I heard it with Clinton!
But not near to this extent!
ORob — Trump plays to his base in almost every move. Everybody has been waiting for him to pivot center cause what Presidents have always done and gets you re-elected….. but he never does. And yeah the left attacks him and probably would anyhow, but Trump doesn’t even care about the middle. He’s at like 42% approval rating with a great economy. Can’t even tell you how historically bizarre that is.
He’s a lightning rod, always has been. He’s brash and an ego maniac.
Stanger, Obama’s approval rating in his third year in August was….38%. People hear what they want to hear.
Heres the link https://news.gallup.com/poll/152123/obama-averages-approval-3rd-year.aspx
New age — we were then just recovering from a huge economic crisis. Brought up great economy for a reason. Normally the economy is the driver on that. And wasn’t even saying Trump couldn’t be re-elected, just pointing out his strategy is most different.
Piggy, Mexican illegals aren’t the problem to me. Some of these people work harder than Americans for much less. I think thats pretty honorable, the problem is not these guys its the other mixed in that aren’t here to carve out a life for themselves. Immigration is the only form of vetting we have and with that being bypassed there is a real issue. Now the borders aren’t secure and very bad things can happen to a country who isn’t paying attention to who is within its borders. I dont know if a Wall is the right answer, to me we are too advanced technology for something so archaic to be used to secure yourself, but there dont seem to be any other suggestions, only just opposition to the need for anything, which is becoming very untrue as time progresses. Just like some of the democrats argue that certain policies and freedoms are outdated, so is the open door policy. Our world isnt safe enough to do nothing.
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I’m not talking about the wall or policy proposals D
I’m talking about hateful rhetoric that is undeniably racist
Which I don’t think has anything to do with policy
You can have tough policy positions without smearing people
But for the record – we don’t have an open door policy though
I don’t know why you think that
It’s tougher to become a citizen now than it’s ever been
You actually can’t become a legal citizen without being a resident first
And residency is really limited (asylum, Marriage, a lottery, family, work visas)
We don’t even offer citizenship to people who served in our military whichbis absurd
A lot of people/candidates have a lot of different ideas
And if you think Mexicans illegals aren’t a problem – you should examine that more bc what trump is doing is pretty inconsistent with that
– Some people want a slow down both legal and illegal immigration (I think that more accurately describes trump)
– Others want merit based immigration
– others want a Clear path to citizenship
– Others want to change broader or more narrow asylum rules
I’ve said before I want to issue work visas and collect revenue while people are given reporting requirements – a process that would take a few years to become a citizen
– it’s not just trumps way or wide open borders
There are a ton of different ways to address immigration
I gotta say the information that people have on this subject is relatively low. People seem to just believe things aren’t that aren’t true and that’s a problem with some of these conversations
who knew terrorsim was so easy to solve? fox news knew!
and the president agrees
so now stopping terrorism is up to us, we toss our video games in the trash and the shooting is all finished
who knew it was so easy?
the gun manufacturers make money off Americans dying in the streets, trump will not stop it because they gave money to the trump campaign
americans were sold out for thirty pieces of silver and lead
It’s a stupid position, always has been.
Out of the first 5 games we play 4 at home at 1pm! that’s a huge advantage for us!
It’s gonna be HOT!
Sweaty white T-shirt HOT!!!!!!!!
That will be a brilliant move if it works out!!!!
Lol
Who would have thought I’d kill the blog with THAT wet t-shirt pick??????????????
Maybe some are busy replying to it, in a private way.
Correct, I’m out here’s my $50
You people want to continue to blame the president for causing this division and the Dems had no part in it. That is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard. All the shit that was spewed before, during and after the election along with the constant bombardment (going over 3 fucking years now) with false rhetoric and false claims can push any nut job to snap.
“We want immigrants coming in; we cherish the open door,” Trump said. “But a big proportion of those immigrants should come in through merit and skill.”
Trump on legal immigrants. Sounds…racist. I ask again, Piggy, what about the hateful rhetoric from Democratic leadership? If one man, Trump, has to be held accountable, then why not the other side?
You can ask all you want
I ignore it
If I point out something wrong by one person
Claiming what about …is just Whataboutism
I can tell you I’m not going to vote for any candidate that attacks some one bc they are white or a man or hwterosexual or any gender or race
I can judge them harshly too if they do that
I didn’t say republicans are racist
I didn’t say immigration policy is inherently racist
I said trump is
It’s just one individual I’m calling out
You can’t reasonably argue he’s not
So you say “what about…”
I’m asking you to stop doing that to defend trump
It doesn’t make him any better
Trump is an equal opportunity insulter. The color of anyone’s skin plays no part in it.
I don’t see that at all
He aligns himself with some people and attacks others
You’re doing the same thing everyone on the left is doing, using the race card.
There’s lots of street interviews where they say Trump said this, what do you think of that? The person will always respond he’s a racist…then they’ll say Obama actually said that or Hillary or some other dem. Then they change their tune.
Trump us the same person he was for 40 years when going on the Oprah show. He’s an egotistical, chauvinistic, pig, but he’s not a racist.
Correct he aligns himself with some people, but not based on race, based on ideology.
It’s not a card
It’s a real thing
With a real body count
With a real a history
And a real problem
And a real detriment to our country
And really inconsistent to our constitution
And people still don’t really take it seriously
I’m not playing anything
It’s easy to point out how racist he is
Bc it’s so obvious that he is
I actually think it overwhelms other discussions on other subjects
It’s not really ideal to spend hours talking about how racist he is when you can talk about other things instead – it’s just an unavoidable truth about trump
More people like Dr. Alveda King need to be heard from by everyone. God Bless her!
Finding a good nominee among the 24 Democratic hopefuls is like trying to find a tootsie roll in a septic tank!
LMAO!!!
5:15 tee time
Got me a new taylormade Spider putter, $350, worth every penny!
SpiderX Copper
Nobody needs a high-powered putter like that…a Bullseye Old Standard works just fine.
Your mom’s alt-right, Your dad’s alt-right
They’re just a little weird.
Surrender, surrender, just give yourself away. Life will be easier.
Kept him from getting cut I guess!
Roster spot! Sign that OL that got released today or yesterday that someone mentioned earlier.
To late!
The Stej actually traded for him before he could be released!
Figures! There will be other releases.
New Age says:
August 5, 2019 at 2:09 pm
It’s ridiculous we don’t have some form of background ID of the Congressional docket. It’s ridiculous that Trump doesn’t have his wall, that more infrastructure isn’t already being built, that the mentally ill aren’t institutionalized more often or a hundred other issues Congress sits on their ass over every year.
Actually, not true. Since the Dems have taken control of the house it has passed multiple bills. NONE have gone to the floor of the senate because Moscow Mitch has been blocking everything for 2 years now.
The rest…it’s just facts. I agree he should have worded it far better, but there were facts in that statement
But if he had worded it differently then the racists wouldn’t hear the racist dog whistles. It is CALCULATED on his part. There is a reason he will not come right out and say white supremacist are wrong or Nazis are bad. He wants to keep getting their votes.
I can’t see how you could possibly hear a dog whistle with your head up there! 😉
Home would be proud of you for having your very own “chem trail” to chase!
He actually said today that the country should stand up in one voice against white supremacy – getting him to do that was like pulling teeth and lacks sincerity
But he did say something against it today (and stopped short of winking…lol)
He’s often does enough to sow doubt into people’s minds about it
At this point I just don’t think he’s got much credibility and is beyond forgiveness
I just want people to stop telling me he’s not racist bc they like other things about him or don’t like democrats or whatever there basis is
I agree that he is calculated and his public statements are riddled with dog whistles for some people
You chasing chem trails too?
Dude…come on…I don’t how you give this guy the benefit of the doubt at this point
David, I want to apologize for my attack on you yesterday. You didn’t deserve that kind of attack and I do apologize.
Notice I said “that kind of attack” 😉
Sorry man!
Takes a real man to type something like this. ^^^^
Maybe I can talk MF13 into coming back so we can all compare conspiracy theories???? 😉
Imagine how all this politics talk would have rolled with M13 here. Have to believe he is doing it somewhere though. One of my favorite knuckleheads….. and yeah I’m one as well.
MF13 was always a little to passionate for political discourse! 🙂
LOL — why brought him up. He could turn any given event of the day into politics…… until he told us no more politics talk of course. 🙂
The Flying Pig says:
August 5, 2019 at 5:02 pm
Dude…come on…I don’t how you give this guy the benefit of the doubt at this point
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I know your a lawyer, and make damn good arguments that are hard to refute!
But dog whistles, super secret key words, next you will tell me there’s a secret hand shake?
I don’t even have to say anything! Just think about how you sound!!!!!!!!
Dog whistle is just metaphorical
Pretext in the scope of discrimination is a very real thing
The entire civil rights movement can be argued to be about state rights and not discrimination
But those state rights were pursued to permit discriminatory policies without federal interference
This isn’t new stuff. It’s not crazy. It’s historically grounded and history repeats itself
If the klan wears hoods to avoid being recognized, then people who speak for a living, can disguise words to avoid the same scrutiny
Besides – “they’re rapists” is hardly subtle…or a dog whistle…it’s brazenly racist
Home and his Chem Trails!
Unless your an “insider” that will be hard to prove!
For your information I don’t give Trump the benefit of doubt.
I knew he was an asshole when I voted for him!
He’s still an asshole!
And he will be an asshole when I vote for him again!
You think Beto isn’t a slime ball?
Because I got money that says that’s your candidate!
That’s an honest answer about Trump
But Beto isn’t my candidate
I don’t really have a horse yet
I have a couple I eliminate like Bernie or Biden but I will still vote for either before trump if it comes to it
It also doesn’t really matter if I think any of them are assholes or not
I actually think most people are assholes
I think an asshole can be President without my constant .02 ( bill clinton was/is not some one who’s personality I cared for)
I just don’t think some one like trump should be in his case, it’s more than than being an asshole
I didn’t mean yours as piggy’s I meant the Democrat nominee.
Beto is like in 5th or 6th place behind Biden, Sanders, Warren, Harris, and Buttigeig
He’s actually not doing really well
So it sounds like McCain at safety and Minkah is the nickel. Now we need to see who wins the other corner spot opposite Howard. There was a depth chart posted that I didn’t see, who has that spot now?
Bobby McCain at safety?
Yeah, you haven’t seen the reports on this? They switched him back in OTAs. LOL
Piggy, I don’t know what your criteria is but Tulsi Gabbard is rather hot.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=4071A44C1884F118B9A8D90C7A04B29447DA3B48&thid=OIP.fpQh4ofCzehWPtzncYCYfAHaHa&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftheological-geography.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2FTulsi-Gabbard.jpeg&exph=500&expw=500&q=Tulsi+Gabbard+Measurements&selectedindex=32&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,2,6
During the first two Dem debate rounds she was in Tulsi was the most googled of all the candidates during it. They brought up on cable news debriefs but no one had the guts to say “well duh…. she’s freaking hot.”
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbSnV-ZSk_oTfYHnxKr2mu5ozICXJ9wpUEr2P2FXZ7_97QDlPa
Damn! She looks better out of uniform than in it and she looks really good in it. I can’t vote for her.
I don’t want to vote for her either, but also wouldn’t mind her filling my TV screen for 4 years instead of Trump, Sanders or Warren.
Rowe is listed as the other starter at CB
which means half our starting DBs sat out injured today.
That’s what I figured. Thanks!
Tulsi is good looking but she’s a little bit cuckoo
No one is asking you to vote for her…… just appreciate that she is as hot at her age as the average Dolphins cheerleader.
No worries, Krishna. I don’t think anything got too out of hand. We all get a little heated at times.
Thanks Naples! Wasn’t proud of myself. LOL
Mike Hull is out for the season. Probably won’t be back with the team next year. He’s always been a backup and STs guy and I doubt he’ll be in the plans moving forward.
that sucks for him. He has been a scrapper, continuously hanging in there the past few years. This may be the end.
I just discovered that Barbara Streisand has cloned puppies! She cloned her dog!
Stanger, that was a set up. I can’t vote for her. Mostly because I am a Canadian Citizen. LOL
You aren’t worried about Trump kicking you out? Or did you hit green card and just let it ride?
Well there are Democrats who would like illegals to be able to vote so there is still a chance. LOL
Who is it? I assume Rosen, since Trey is posting it and he’s the tight spiral guy.
Rosen to Preston Williams
Hear a lot of good stuff on Williams. He’s a big dude! He will be on the roster. I could see a trade happening by mid preseason. Not for any of our core WR’s but Hurd or Butler.
and it is BS that throw was not all that impressive
While I obviously would defend him, I thought this quip by Dave Hyde was hilarious
“But seven years of Ryan Tannehill sounds like a bad Medieval spell caused by a broken mirror.”
stangerx says:
August 5, 2019 at 7:07 pm
You aren’t worried about Trump kicking you out? Or did you hit green card and just let it ride?
Nah, I’m blond with blue eyes. He doesn’t see me as a foreigner.
BTW Tim, I’m legal.
I was just joking.
I get it. Ha ha. It IS a real concern.
Piggy,
We probably disagree on most politics and that’s fine. We both want a country where we can watch football, shop, eat, etc while not living in more fear than that Tom Brady never retires and never dies either.
I don’t think Trump is the best we could get, he’s just the best we’ve had apply in a while. which says something awful. It says the field is very weak, and there’s an agenda at work. I know you think the exact opposite but did you see the Dem debates? They will say ANYTHING. Trump didn’t during the Repub debates in 2016. All we needed was ANYONE to talk about fixing immigration. Just ONE of those worthless shitbags. NO ONE wanted to. We still NEED ANYONE to work on inner city violence. Who will step up? Who in Congress is passing laws? Who passes legislation, with no poison pills attached? NO ONE. Why?!
Sure, we need people working on white nationalists but I’ve read earlier reports. It’s been a decades long problem. The FBI monitors them VERY closely. There’s lots of them out there. They don’t have a lot of members but they are armed, dangerous, and fanatics. I don’t think the FBI is watching them less closely though and the FBI gets a LOT of money to function every year. McVey kinda forced the FBI to take these types of groups seriously.
When I look at the massive machine that was set up to get Hillary elected…I shudder. Bought and paid, her turn, women’s turn, her due from waiting in ’08, etc. Disgusting. People have the gall to say Russia had any real influence as we see O’Rourke peddling in Mexico, Hillary pulling hot sauce out of her bag, Biden taking Ukrainian bribes to enrich his dirty son, Kamala .saying the opposite of her record, Bernie doing anything to get another house, and Warren using her white privilege her entire career while talking about everyone else’s. and lastly the media pushing Dem talking points every day. They pushed the 90% Hillary win narrative they created to get the results they expected. Her loss opened up the true colors of the DNP. That side is poison and after 2 decades of voting Dem, I’ll never do it again unless there’s a 180 so hard necks crack.
Back to football, who are the TEs we think will get the most action this year? O Leary and who?
Gosh darn he was good
I wish weed had not been illegal at the time
If you haven’t seen the Nick Buoniconti documentary on HBO, “The many lives of Nick Buoniconti” you should check it out. I’m watching it right now and it’s really good.
I saw it and cried if it’s the one you’re referring to. The one where he was aware that he’s fading away?
I will throw a bet out there.
Smyth winds up with the most snaps by the end of the season.
** Smythe freakin auto-incorrect
Of any player or at TE? 😉
of all the tight ends on the roster. by the end of the season he will lead the snap count.
I have no idea because if we use a decent amount of 2-TE not sure what the combos will be. I think we’ll keep 4 TEs and right now I’ll say it will be Gesicki, Allen, O’Leary and Smythe.
pheloniusphish says:
August 5, 2019 at 4:55 pm
Nobody needs a high-powered putter like that…a Bullseye Old Standard works just fine.
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Wrong, it’s very 2 dimensional, Spider is 3 dimensional, gives you a better line to the target.
Tim I think that’s the right one because I’m ripped apart right now.
I used to like this blog.
there’s a smattering of fins news every now and then!
Yes, because of you, thanks!
Curses!!
😉
That one is staying on my DVR forever.
It almost makes me hate this sport though
Sounds like an Orob special!
I don’t know how you guys don’t see it. We have had 7 HC, multiple GM’s, two owners thirty plus coordinators and ONE Freaking Long Snapper.
Do you guys REALLY believe it was all those other guys fault?
There is only one common denominator
I hope nobody ever points me out to him. LOL
It is all just a Stchick Mr. Denney
Huh? Who me? Yes Mr. Denney, I am Rockphin
LOL 😆
Lol!
What is the solution to this problem?
8 ÷ 2(2+2)
16. This is basic math.
PEMDAS
Fuck.. you are correct but I’m still mans best friend and apes haven’t fully evolved unless it’s math problems. 🤓 I meant to say 8 double shots.
lol, we apes can only dream of reaching the pinnacle of being ‘man’s best friend’ 😉
I agree. There are those who argue that multiplication and division are given the same importance and say the answer is 1
Multiplication and division have equal importance but always operate from left to right, then addition and subtraction are also given equal importance also operating from left to right.
I see what you are saying, some people think that those two operations are done concurrently, lol. Well, it doesn’t surprise me .
8 shots 🐕🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃
Nogtih all
That math problem is just an example of how so many of the things we learn in school don’t necessarily translate into the real world. There are a number of jobs that require higher math knowledge, but most people go their whole lives without having to know the rules of the order of operations and forget them within a few years of leaving school.
Math was always easy for me, but remembering the rules of comma placement? When is it proper to use a semi-colon? Who discovered uranium? Forget it.
Just ask Siri now. Although that equation might have her recommend a few porn sites.
WELL here we are 2 days before the Fins first exhibition home game and I STILL don’t have my season’s tickets I paid for way back in January.!!
TYPICAL service from Steve Ross’s ticket department!!!
Piggy – You’re talking about two different topics then. If you’re saying that certain Latin American countries are viewed as possible terrorist havens, that’s different than them along with other races and nationalities trying to get through our border via Mexico. If people from Israel are trying to get here illegally through Mexico then they will be held up just like everyone else. You’re talking about prejudices and racism, not border control. All I’m saying is our borders need to be secure and we have to vet the people that are trying to come in here, we can’t just have a turnstile because that will make it too easy for terrorists to get in.
Bookman – I still like YOU! Even though you hate the blog. 🙂
You know we allow talk about politics, and I think you can should give credit when it can be discussed w/o major turmoil and fights. We try to allow everyone to talk about anything, and until the season starts, there will be more off topic discussions.
Can’t wait for Thursday to see if any of the penalties are cleaned up. One good thing about Rosen being second team is him building that relationship with Preston W. Hopefully they will be building blocks for us to finally get to playoff quality football.
It’s not going to be a national broadcast right? Do you have to purchase the preseason package through NFL.com?