OK, this is a shocker, no two ways about it! In addition to trading away our cornerstone LT, we also traded away controversial WR Kenny Stills (BUH-bye) and future draft picks, a 2020 4th RD pick and a 2021 6th RD pick. What do we get in return for all of this??? TWO first RD picks, a 2020 1st RD and a 2021 1st RD pick and 2021 2nd RD pick as well. and two players, special teamer DB Johnson Bademosi and OT Julie’n Davenport.
I don’t even know how to digest all this to be honest. Things look great for the future, although now we have to find a legitimate LT which will probably require a high pick. I realize we have now have 2 first RD picks in both next year’s draft and also in 2021, but now the rebuild seems to be full on, and it’s going to require some patience here. While the future looks promising, I have my doubts about how competitive our team will be with a poor offensive line.
I understand well that no player is “untradeable”. There is a value for everything, and GM Chris Grier felt he got more value than he could turn down for his best OL and really the cornerstone of our offensive line, then he did the right thing. Time will tell, because Laremy Tunsil is a great tackle, he was an excellent pass protector as well as a demon in the run game. Kenny Stills was a deep threat WR who has been making big plays for us since he got here, but in limited quantities. He probably should have been more during his tenure here, and his decision to speak up against Dolphins owner Steve Ross probably led to him being a part of this trade as well..
What I guess we all have to realize is that this year is definitely compromised. I would say we all had some doubts about our O-line with Laremy Tunsil, so those doubts just intensified w/o him. Is Zach Sterup our LT? Do our QB’s routinely get “Julienned” if newly acquired OT Julie’n Davenport is playing LT? Do we pick up another LT off the cut scrap heap? LG Michael Deiter’s job just got a whole lot more difficult, wouldn’t you think?
Next year’s draft should be exciting for us, but watching this season, at least for me at this moment, looks to be a scary prospect. I think we’re putting an inferior product on the field on offense, with QB Ryan Fitzpatrick starting behind what appears to be a very shaky O-line. We heard rumors about a locker room revolt if Laremy Tunsil was traded, I suppose we’ll see if that’s true or not. I hope it’s not, because things may tough enough for this team this season without that.
Finsmob Unleashed 
I guess if Clowney wanted to come here it would probably be the same deal except Clowney instead of one of the first rounders.
Texans are paying the Seahawks $7 mil of his salary this season. Makes no sense.
Something is up with Clowney.
Where the F is Prof Lou. Dolphins have turned into his favorite team…..the Browns.
Lol…I hope he hasn’t spontaneously combusted in his BarcaLounger!
Or maybe he is on some Browns board telling them who to draft in the 6th round in 2020. 🙂
Not surprised by the Kiko trade, that was rumored. We get a young LB with some size in Vince Biegel and clear some more cap space.
Anyone have any other updates on roster moves?
I posted above the next 5 cuts we made and the 5 guys we snagged off other teams’ cuts.
The Miami Dolphins today announced they have been awarded the following players off waivers: linebacker Trent Harris, linebacker Deon Lacey, defensive end Avery Moss, safety Steven Parker and cornerback Ken Webster. The Dolphins waived the following players: linebacker Terrill Hanks, safety Montre Hartage, tight end Chris Myarick, tackle Zach Sterup and defensive tackle Adolphus Washington.
Thanks man.
Gase cut Matt Darr
Giants cut Terence Fede.
We signed Deon Lacey again? Is that the same Lacey who collided with McMillan on the 1st play of the PS on STs in 2017 ending McMillan’s rookie season?
yes
quick guy huh?
When a team is starting over and purging their roster I guess the new word to use is tanking when it’s really about starting over but whatever. Seems there always has to be a negative slant about everything these days.
Darn sure that Flores and the team will try to win every game, but also thinking Greir is not all that worried about how many wins we get this year. I think they might surprise some though…. but then at this point that would mean 6 wins.
Yeah of course we’re going to try and compete to win. I think Grier and Flores are in this together. Flores took the job knowing the direction the team is going in. Build it the way you want it to look.
And it is pretty cool for Flores. Not only does he get to create the team the way he wants….. he’s getting another year in job security.
Yeah everyone gets a pass on W/L in 2019. Everything we’re doing is geared up for a big 2020 offseason. We have the resources to put together a team that can contend in 2020 if we get it at least mostly right. It doesn’t take 3-4 years like in the past.
Flores gets to change the culture in his vision and in 2020 there will be a core that can set the example for the newbees moving forward. They’re doing exactly what they said they were going to do. The past teams got stagnant and could never get to the next level so trying to stick with it and build on it didn’t make much sense. It’s painful for us fans knowing we’re not going to be contenders this year but the future has a chance to be bright. Ross signed off taking a step back to rebuild for long term success. It had to happen.
Miami goes into next year with <4M dead cap and north of $104M in cap space. Oh…and a shit load of high draft picks.
Gonna be able to rebuild the team like it is FF.
Of course their first round pick will be #32 so we have to hope the texans suck.
You Florida folks all be safe.
torrential downpour here right now, but unrelated to the big hurricane.
Noticed that we have a lot of DE/OLB guys in that 6-2 to 6-4 240-260 range.
FYI, Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers are all unrestricted free agents next year. LOL
BailBondMike says:
September 1, 2019 at 11:09 am
if Miami had the number one pick, who should they pick?
Trade down and get more first round picks. then take one of the QB’s, DE’s or OT’s….LOL
#CTP at it again
Mando, stop being an ass about Flores not using the tanking narrative. You’re acting like an amateur. Purging a roster and starting over is just that. It’s you in the media who use the tank word over and over which is childish.
While it appears like the Dolphins are, in fact, making the conscious decision to be a less talented team now in hopes of being a team that’s in contention later on, first-year head coach Brian Flores dismissed the idea of the team tanking.
“This game means a lot to me,” Flores told reporters during a conference call on Sunday, via the Miami Herald. “I wouldn’t disrespect the game with that. Again, no, we’re not. We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even to say that. …. It’s disheartening to hear people talk about it, to even say that. For a guy who respects the game as much as the game has done for me, when people say that, it’s extremely sad.”
While it may be disheartening to hear, there’s no denying that this is the reality for the Dolphins. Sure, players will still play hard to better themselves for 2020 and Flores will coach to the best of his ability, but, from a talent standpoint, they are in position to lose rather than win.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/brian-flores-addresses-speculation-that-the-miami-dolphins-are-tanking-in-2019/
Never heard tanking used when Jimmy Johnson did the same thing in 1996 and that team went 8-8 although they still had Marino. This team is being rebuilt. Tanking is a stupid narrative.
What if we win 4, 5 or 6 games this year? What did we tank for, the #3 to #11 pick?
What if we win 19 games?
Grier and Flores are already HOF executive and head coach. LOL
we dont have to call this tanking for tua, but its definitely not looking like Miami wants to win this year by having quality talent
they want to win with fitzpatrick at qb, and many of our vets missing, well hell i want to win too, but wanting to win doesnt translate to wins
this team was set up to lose in 2019, so it has a brighter future. maybe tanking is the right word, maybe it isnt, but the design is go cheap, let the talent go, and stockpile picks for the future
the emphasis is, we hope the UDFA and rejects from other teams wins games this year, see? we arent tanking, these unknowns really want to win
its a fine line between tanking and a snow job about tanking, this team is doing both, and are viewing 2019 as a sacrificial year to get what they want in 2020 and 2021
Tanking is when you deliberately try to lose like not playing your best players or starting a QB who had no business being in the league like the Colts did when they sucked for Luck. That’s what started this whole tank narrative.
there are different ways to tank, like sending a couple of your best offensive players to the texans a few days before game one for draft picks
that was NOT done to help us beat the Ravens , or ANY games this year
this was done intentionally, sacrifice the season for future seasons
and starting FItz? nobody starts Fitz if they really wanted to win Sunday, Rosen gives us the best chance to win
the team is making moves that dont intentionally make us lose, but will greatly contribute to losses
Stanger, your “Gonna be able to rebuild the team like it is FF.” reminded me of my FFL this year where two teams only protected 2 out of the 4 and made trades with two teams that wanted to keep 6 so they could rebuild their teams and start over. The price for the teams that wanted to keep 6 was a 1, 2 and 4.
David, you knew what the plan was going into this season. We weren’t ready to pay Tunsil a new big LT contract during this rebuild which was coming and I don’t consider Stills a big loss. He’s a nice speedy receiver but he was by no means a must have, and his political advocacy was not a distraction Flores and the org wanted to deal with anymore.
Flores’ mantra is team first, selflessness, show up on time, work hard and do your job. Do the Patriots ever have rabble-rousers?
i did NOT know the plan going into this season was to trade Tunsil and Stills
my point is these moves do NOT help us beat the Ravens or anyone this year, everything is being done for next year
No not every move but the plan overall was about rebuilding this team in Grier’s and Flores’ vision moving forward. A lot goes into it other than just saying we got rid of good players.
We went 6-10 and 7-9 the last two years with both of them. Don’t you want that crap to end? Not they were solely responsible but did they put us over the top? No!
I find it interesting that we have 5 tailbacks on the team. Not sure what we’re doing there unless STs is key with some of these guys like Laird, Gaskin and Walton. The new kickoff rules have changed how teams use personnel with no more wedge etc.
Wondering if another trade is in the hopper?
https://sports.yahoo.com/video/talkin-joe-8-30-131356563.html
A lot of us thought this is how it would start. No big deal but at some point Rosen has to get a good look starting. Unless we’re in a playoff hunt with Fitz and we’re not as bad as people expected. Other than that, once we’ve got 5 or 6 games under our belt and we have a losing record, it’s time to take a look at Rosen.
I don’t think these moves worsen us as a team a lot this year ..
Kiko was deemed replaceable when Equawhatever and Baker played lights out in preseason .. new regime wants/needs our LB to be comfortable in coverage .. I LOVED Kiko with the exception of his PF penalty’s, even though most of those were hustle based .. in short he was not gonna be a full time player and don’t play ST ..his replacements all contribute on STs
I am not an OL guru or watcher like some here, I am more of a ball watcher as Stanger says .. my memory tells me that Tunsil was better at pass pro, than run blocking , like piggy stared earlier.. so based on the players we kept, and what I saw in PS , we are looking at a more power run than sit back and throw downfield team .. the three OL we traded for , may be stronger run blocking OL than Tunsil.. they also may not be , but in this type offence an Elite LT earning 10-15 M/ yr as Tunsil would command coming next year is not as bad a need… so Texans throwing the next two drafts and a replacement at his position at us for a player who may be overqualified for our needs and really expensive resign is not that bad.. take it and (pardon the pun) run..
Stills I liked as well but paying 9 Mil for him and what he does was also overpay in my eyes, especially when we have Grant and Wilson who have as much if not more speed than he does.. and yes Stills talked himself out town earlier was just a matter of when..
With the run heavy team we have and the Two TE’s we will dispatch most plays we have more than enough WRs for what we do , 2-3 shirt speedy guys, and 2-3 tall large go get jump ball types , as Naples says as long as “the guy who sometimes shows up can’t play due to dandruff “ << found that hilarious
I DO agree that yes game 1 vs Ravens is gonna be tough getting 5 OL playing as a cohesive unit by then, but as stated Tunsil barely saw the field in PS , we did have Sterup in there and he is now also gone …
So to recap week one will be tougher now, but going forward we are not set as far back by theses dealings as has been hollered.. and as somebody else stated “ the sky is not falling, it’s the neighbors kids throwing acorns over the fence “. << loved that as well on a couple of levels
Stay the Course !! Go Phins. We will win more games this year than last year on effort and execution alone 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Good post! We weren’t a good team the last two years and we moved on from the old guard we tried to contend with. We’re starting over and rebuilding from the ground up. Look at the position groups, lots of new players in each of them. We only have two OL left from last year in Kilgore and Davis. That doesn’t mean the OL will be good, but it won’t be the same. And Kilgore only played 4 games last year until he went down in that 4th game against the Pats for the season.
This season will be about who will be part of the team next year and moving forward. It’s the initial foundation evaluation in phase one.
All the blow it up guys are struggling with what that means. Blow it up!!!! But not him, him, him, him, him, him etc. LOL
I think most of us knew Kiko was a goner as soon as we heard the reports that he’d cleaned out his locker the other day, so no shocker here. However, I’m dismayed that we only got a Vince Biegel in return for him… I kind of feel like we got hosed on this one.
Consider the following…
Just heard we are also paying 1M of his salary this year as well .. I think of it as Baker replaces him , EQ is replacing Baker, and Biegle is a ST Dog !!
Perhaps it is Biegle’s STs prowess that made us want him. So I see as starters: Baker, Raekwon, and Eguavoen.
Yeah I knew I was forgetting someone .. sorry 🤷♂️
It is what it is, but I think we could’ve gotten more in exchange for Kiko. I suppose Chris Grier really liked Biegel in the ’17 Draft (R4- 108 overall pick).
We as fans always think we can /should get more than we do for expendable players .. see Ajayi .. and I loved him too , we had him on a pedestal and were pissed when all we got was a 5th for our star RB .. true HE did get a Ring, but he is also currently unemployed .. Kiko is a great player , but needs to be in the right role on the right team.. we at least got something for him as opposed to cutting him and eating 7M I think in dead money .. causes Yes he was leaving one way or another, and everyone in league knew it
It was a salary and old guard dump. We take a look at a young LB prospect and go from there.
I’m happy that Alonso has a chance to play for a contender. He’s a good guy and deserves that. He would be wasting his time in Miami this year. He would have been gone next year anyway.
We haven’t had a chance to see LB Van Ginkel yet as he’s been nursing an injury in TC and the PS but the team sees enough in him as a 5th rd pick to be patient with him. It’s easy to say we’re going to suck but we really have no idea yet. There is talent on this team albeit not a proven or complete team. Just remember not every team in the NFL is good. LOL
manitobafinfan says:
September 1, 2019 at 8:43 pm
Yeah I knew I was forgetting someone .. sorry 🤷♂️
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No need to be sorry, Manitoba. It’s weird though… seems as though so many forget that we have Raekwon on our team, and he finished last season VERY strong! He’s somebody to look forward to… along with Baker (his former teammate at Ohio State)! 🙂
Yeah as Omar said McMillan is not a good fit when he wasn’t even practicing and playing due to injuries. McMillan can play in a 3-4 or 4-3. Why would we give up on him at this stage unless something isn’t right with him?
Jerome Baker sure seems primed to have a big season. He’s our 3-down LB – he can play base blitz/run/cover and play nickel as a blitz/run/cover, lol. He’s got some special in him. I think we found a gem here. 🙂
I think our whole D is gonna be a surprise to a lot of people outside of our little room here 🤯
‘Captain Obvious’ statement: we’re not even CLOSE to being done in churning the bottom part of our roster. And yes… we’re looking to trade one of our current 5 RBs (plus one FB for a total of 6 backs).
Drake’s numbers are going to absolutely SUCK this year behind this O-Line: it would make sense to trade him while he still has value. I really don’t want to trade Drake, but I could see him being the next — and perhaps the last — vet we might trade to get another pick(s). He’s a cool $2.2M this year with much upside, before becoming a FA next year.
I look to see him traded to a contending team who loses a stud RB before the trade deadline, sadly. I hope I’m wrong, because I think Drake has been a stud for us… but he’s going to look horrible this year behind our O-Line. JMO
M13, Baker, Raekwon and Eguavoen as you mentioned, we will see a lot along with the hybrid edge guys in these different formations we’ve seen. Remember when we said we’ll probably be vanilla in the first PS game, nope… we ran a lot of different stuff because that’s what we do.
I happen to love what I refer to as the 8-2-1 – 8 man LOS front, of course some will drop back or play press, blitz or whatever, but it’s a challenging formation, 2 LBs within 5 yards and a deep safety (McCain) like 15-20 yards deep.
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You’ve got it!
Kiko was a salary dump and we are fortunate to get anything for him. It’s not just fans and overpaid writers who knew Kiko wasn’t in our future. Looking at the Texans, I’m glad we have a GM. They’ve ruined a lot of hard work and the future in some poorly worked trades. Like Piggy, I’m not extremely impressed with O’Brien in any of his stops including this stint.
We really did well by Tunsil and screwed over an AFC competitor at the same time. Tunsil knows they gave up two 1sts for him. When it’s contract time, he’ll be the highest paid LT in the league…and the Texans will have fewer resources with which to compete. I’m extremely happy we will not be dealing with that contract. I just hope Grier is half the drafter he thinks he is.
I really like Rosen and think he got a raw. . deal. Hopefully, it will push him to be the best QB he can be and the answer here. If not, Grier set us up with lots of options for next year. That’s always a good thing. At least college games will be competitive lol and there’s a lot of QBs looking good early…which means jack shit honestly. I’m a huge Fromm fan but he has to get over the hump and probably isn’t the most talented guy out there this year. Oregon screwed up bad and it will cost them.
Salary dump or not, I just feel Kiko was worth than what we got in return. It’s all good, though… I’m trusting Grier and Flores on this.
* more than we got in return.
I agree with you.
Tim Knight says:
September 1, 2019 at 9:00 pm
Yeah as Omar said McMillan is not a good fit when he wasn’t even practicing and playing due to injuries…
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Omar really HAS lost it, hasn’t he!
Talking about dark horses, I’m extremely interested in Hurts this year. He may end up being the top QB this year with Riley coaching him. I will definitely watch him all year.
Tim Knight says:
September 1, 2019 at 9:09 pm
Jerome Baker sure seems primed to have a big season. He’s our 3-down LB – he can play base blitz/run/cover and play nickel as a blitz/run/cover, lol. He’s got some special in him. I think we found a gem here. 🙂
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I sure hope you’re right… and I happen to think you are. 🙂
It seems to me that Flores believes if you play solid defense and STs, you can stay in games. Playmakers on offense make the difference. He’s trying to build DEF/ST first. The types of players he needs to play their multiple on defense. We have skill on offense, but it might take a few games for all the new to build some chemistry.
Agreed… but of course, Defense (and STs) are the specialty of Coach. I happen to believe that our Defense is going to ‘WOW/SURPRISE’ a lot of people this year, and our STs are going to be pretty good (despite the loss of fan favorite Darren Rizzi).
I don’t know about our Offense… not sure at the moment. Our O-Line is despicable, IMO.
Tim Knight says:
September 1, 2019 at 9:19 pm
M13, Baker, Raekwon and Eguavoen…
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So now you have me playing in a 3-4 with these LBs?!! 😉
JBB 🙂
Actually a 4-3 and a BallHawk 😊
😀 😀 😀
Thank you, sir!!!
BALLHAWK!!!
Our defense does a lot of stuff. They choose who is on the field based on opponent and game situation. It’s different from years past for sure.
Gotta run for the evening. Be well, fellas.
GO PHINS!!!
HELL YEAH!!!
Key players on defense this year at this time – Wilkins, Godchaux, Taylor, Harris, Baker, McMillan, Eguavoen, Howard, McCain, Minkah, Jones, Rowe
Lol, so all the starters plus nickelback?
Just saying who is going to play a lot.
How bout some stats
…………………….Fitz……………………..rosen
GAMES………..141…………………………14
COMP PCT….60.1………………………….55.2
PASS YDG…….208.2…………………….162.7
TD/INT RATIO….1.3…………………………79
WIN PCT…………397………………………231
So I read LT will be either Davenport or Isidora. Prince backs up Davis at RT. We kept 9 OL on the 53, so far
LT Davenport/Isidora
LG Deiter
C Kigore
RG Calhoun
RT Davis
We’ve never seen them play. We’ll see. 😉
Ok, so not Tunsil, but hopefully good enough to be able to throw the ball once in a while😁
I like Tunsil and Stills as players. But come on, a 2020 1st and a 2021 1st and 2nd along with an exchange for a OL and CB/ST, and we give up a 4th and 6th.
Anyone know our current roster? I see inaccuracies.
Just Miami Dolphins News, it should pop up, I believe from Phinsiders.
Just Google.
Here’s how I view trades, I turn it around, and assume the opposite happened, so we got a pretty good WR and a very good LT, but we gave up…and we’re going to have to open the vault to pay him.
I’d be livid, if we made this trade, no matter what are current power poll ranking was.
You don’t give up that kind of comp and pay big bucks soon.
When Ross opted out of RISE that should’ve been the trigger, that said Stills days in Miami were numbered.
Flores wants no outside noise.
We cannot be sure of that, because Tunsil had nothing to do with it and he’s gone too
Just never forget, even after losing Kiko and Stills, we are still one of the fastest teams in the NFL.
and speed wins games …
@ RB, TE, WR, and kick returner on offense, we have guys can run past you & take it to the house.
Even parker runs a 4.45
On D Baker, Wilkins, Orchard, Eguavoen, and Harris are some of the fastest at their position.
Deon Lacey set the school record in the 400 metres with a time of 52.57
Reshad is a 4.5 safety, or once was one, and is fast enough to have 21 career INTs who can take that back for 6.
Minkah is a 4.46 at slot corner!
At the back end McCain is also a 4.5 @ FS with a 36 vert.(which matters at the position where a guy has to compete to high point the ball).
Other top speeds in the NFL @ defense back: Malcolm Butler, Patriots (22.07MPH); Johnson Bademosi, Patriots (21.72MPH); Devin McCourty, Patriots (21.66); and David Amerson, Raiders (21.62).
and X has been timed as low as 4.41 in the 40. Eri Rowe @ 4.45; Wiltz 4.43.
I think we’ll be pretty good on defense and STs, the offense might take some time.
If true this will make someone happy?????
It will help in a year or two, but it hurts for 2019
A bird in hand is worth two in the draft
Egwovan is going to be the long snapper too
Congratulations to my boys out West!
Mountain West Conference had a great opening weekend!
FSU sucks, I would never want a FSU player on our team,
in FL, they are known as the dumb university, they are complete idiots
FSU is where you go if You can’t afford a real university, or You get rejected by universities, and FSU Is the only one left
wow
You can make some of the most insulting sweeping generalizations …
FSU is easier to get into than Harvard or even Duke,
but to say it is “the dumb university” is, well, dumb.
The dumb kids don’t graduate high school.
The less dumb kids can’t get in any 4-yr university.
The marginal kids go to satellite schools such as Bethune or Berry.
And so on up the tiers till you get to Stanford and that top level.
FSU is a major university from which a successful grad can get a great job.
As a state uni, it must serve the state by allowing 40,000 students in at a time
and offer a wide range of degrees, some more challenging than others.
I believe you can get a good education almost anywhere if you apply yourself.
Where did you graduate from?
duke isnt in FL, so i wasnt talking about them,
i was mainly reacting to the FSU football score, ticked Parker is still freeloading on our team, and discussing FL universities only
, its too cumbersome and argumentative to start it all over and finish it at this point IMO
Wow the Denney era is over? Who’s the new long snapper?
Could be one of the guards we traded for?
they both can play center!
Team commitment has to start with the team owner
When Ross showed he had other things on his mind , like. Making money holding a fund raiser for an idiot who never claims he never heard of a cat 5,
that was a clear sign Ross is not concerned about the team this year
Scratch the first never,,*
You’re reaching here. You don’t like Ross and Trump, we get it. That has nothing to do with the football moves.
im not reaching, it was accurate when i said it, and in hindsight, it still appears Ross doesnt care about 2019
just like when i said Ross doesnt want to pay veterans before, and in hindsight we see more veterans going
this has to do with football, and everything to do with why the fins will suck in 2019
most of the veteran talent and commitment is gone, and its up to Flores to fix it all?
David did your prescription run out again? 😉
did the hurricane strike alabama yet? thats the guy You need to worry about his meds ran out
Maybe the grab the Farnsworth kid back up. Something definitely changed in their mindset. Maybe after the Tunsil trade they went all in on get purge. Maybe be those are the revolt guys…… I dunno but that move seems very abrupt
He doesn’t have to pass waivers!
It could just be a cut and re-sign at a lower rate???
It is kind of a head scratcher???????
If Ross is committed to the team we would know really fast. Like figuring out what new team we wanted to pull for when he sold to a different guy possibly in a different state
Isnt
Rosen not starting is all the proof I need to show we aren’t tanking.
Flores knows what the cheats D does to young QBs, and he didn’t want to give them the chance week 2.
Recap of game one I expect to read Fins lost, but future looks bright, this is a different brand of football.
rosen gives the team a better chance to win
but you feel starting Fitzpatrick is proof we arent tanking? lol its not proof, we have NO proof the Fins are not tanking, because they are
David
I went to FSU
You don’t know what you are talking about….as usual…
sorry Piggy, You are the shining light from FSU then , and the only one i ever met from FSU that wasnt dumb
ever hear of college rivalry? thats what this is
gators, canes, and knights dont have much nice to say about FSU< and vice versa
Which one did you graduate from?
Okay David, have at your bizarre rants. You love to take discussions into bizzaro land. I’m sure Trump has something to do with what the Dolphins football team is doing that you don’t like. LOL
i told the truth, , Ross has not shown he wants to win in 2019, if you disagree, instead of attacking me over it, come up with some proof Ross is showing commitment to win in 2019
Ross made it clear he’s willing to see the team take a step back to build it for long term success. The previous way we were operating wasn’t working was it? You just don’t want to accept it. It’s as simple as that. Stop playing victim with the attack shit. You say a lot of crazy shit like the FSU nonsense. You insult people all the time but you don’t realize you’re doing it, or maybe you do but just don’t care.
im not a victim, i pointed out that you can only attack me with some bullshit like Ross is trying to win this year, and yet you have nothing to show for it. You are wrong, and im right.
you keep saying Ross is doing this for the future, and i agree, but You are wrong to attack me for saying Ross hasnt shown he has commitment to win in 2019
and you cannot come up with anything to prove he has. You have nothing
next time You want to disagree, have something to disagree
David
My son went to FSU.
He got a perfect score on the math PSAT, has an IQ higher than 150,
and as a double major biochemical and electirical engineer,
at Florida State,
he now designs nuclear submarines.
But yeah the other 39,000 kids are dumb; you’re right about that.
i would never impugn Your son, but college rivalries have existed for hundreds of years
I started to defend FSU but couldn’t bring myself to. Not that I agree with David its just against my religion to do so.
There could be several reasons why Denny should’ve been cut, but the timing is really strange.
He is really old and might’ve shown signs, but I did see him make a ST trackle in preseason.
He was not at LS for the terrible snap that caused the missed XP.
One of the writers said he had his worst game against the patsies last yr.
but i don’t remember that.
He could have been a critic of some of these recent fire sale moves, but he seems too much of a survivor for that.
He might’ve been a supporter of Stills, but we’d have heard more of that before now.
He might’ve been too jovial or laid back for Flo, but that makes little sense really.
He probably makes a lot of money for a LS, but it can’t be a lot in the big picture.
I actually think the NFL will see more of this soon. Allocating a roster spot to a LS is a huge commitment of resources. Can’t your center or your back-up center or a LB or TE long-snap and save a roster spot? Somebody who can tackle on STs. They don’t need to block that much with the new rule.
I also think we might see more kickers who both punt and place-kick soon. That would save yet another roster spot.
These two spots would be game-day actives also.
I agree the Denney cut wasn’t to be expected but it’s timing is wierd.
Has anyone seen a reason why he was cut?
and why at the end of pre-season?
We only have a few days to train a new guy and
that might impact our FG kicker and lose a game for us.
Wait … is that part of the tanking?
its funny to discuss personal experiences, everyone else wants to say, nuh huuu, You never saw that, lol
but they were not watching me when i , o hell, never mind, lol
ill just wait til they relate personal experiences, and tell them they didnt see that either
So you bought a plate at Ross’s house and discussed the Dolphins with Trump and Ross???
was that the personal experience i related?
Your statements (if to be believed) would take a lot of insider information!
i wouldnt worry about it. we all have bigger fish to fry
The two major state schools are kinda split in their disciplines. UF is more technical and science and FSU is more law and business. Not that both don’t have good programs in other areas but these are the ones they are known for. Neither is a bad school and neither are full of idiots. Ok ok that’s as far as I can get to a defense I have vomit rising in the back of my throat.
The National High Magnetic Field Laboratory at FSU is the largest and highest-powered magnet lab in the world. Funded by the National Science Foundation, each year more than 2,000 scientists come from across the globe to use our facilities at Florida State University and Los Alamos National Laboratory to probe fundamental questions about materials, energy, and life.
https://nationalmaglab.org/
Like I said the have other areas they excel at, just known for law and business.
Some kids don’t want to go to UF as it’s a cow college in a 1 red light town in a swamp.
Some kids don’t want to go to a stuck up snooty spoiled brat school with criminals for a football team like the U.
Some kids don’t want to go to Mouse u and study puppeteering and concessions science like UCF.
Now that’s rivalry talk, not saying ppl who go to a major uni are dumb.
All the kids at those 3 other schools are smart kids, too.
They just have no personality, or suffer from narcissism, or live in a fantasy world.
ever been to a gator and nole game? lol
they dont talk like that
they even talk about each others mothers, in horrible ways of course
David I think you broad-stroked it a bit too much I pick at FSU a lot because it’s a rivalry but I’m not gonna call all of the out as knuckle-draggers. I save that for Alabama fans. Lol jk before I ruffle up anymore people lol
lol im not the easily offended one here today, its just college talk
yea maybe i stroked it a bit to much for some,i wont again,
i do hate making others cry, makes me feel like a big meanie
Cow college? Apparently you haven’t seen the girls there, lot better than those squaws at free shoe university. Actually that’s not entirely true the girls are smoking hot at FSU I’m just trying to get into the theme if things
lol … we used to say very similar things at Clemson about University of South Carolina.
They called Clemson cow college, and we said they were teaching lawyers how to become politicians and take bribes in their briefs.
We did not cut down their women however, as we only had 9.
Well it official!
John Denny is trending on twitter! 😉
I have no personality, suffer from narcissism AND live in my own fantasy world. I need to petition all 3 of those colleges for honorary degrees
I’ve been to Gator-Noles games, much better byhan the Iron Bowl tbh. Almost better than any LSU game I have ever been to lol. Fans are fans and shit talk is shit talk. It doesn’t really speak of intelligence more so alcohol content
exactly
As I count, there are only 21 players on the roster who were on the team last year.
cut ’em
You can count? I thought you went to FSU
LMAO !
Nah…I’m a Gators fan, although I graduated from Maryland.
Good man!
I counted 22 on the official site. LOL
Talk about dumb students, my school Clemson and USC got into a rivalry about which one could have the largest naked coed parade. It was during the streaker fad. We would organize our girls and invite the Carolina guys up to count, and then they would convince their girls to get a bigger turnout and invited us to come down and count theirs. Just to validate and all, y’know?
This went back and forth for several months until finally the cops said it was disrupting traffic too much. Both schools had parades in the thousands of nude college girls walking the mile or two loops around the campuses.
I forget which group of girls thought they won. Both the male student bodies knew who won.
hey, my nephew goes to USC, and i dont appreciate the negative comments about America’s largest university
he is highly intelligent, and You dont know what You are talking about to say he isnt
lol wah wah wah
You know im just teasin ya right? lol its all good
Lol
Daughter is a freshmen at USC. Cocks!
..wish would I have thought that post through..
LMAO!!!
LMAO !
Miami is a completely unknown entity this year. Opponents don’t know what they are getting and the media doesn’t know what they are looking at. Miami may stink or they may blow the doors off other teams. That’s why the tank talk is for window licking dumbasses..Miami is a complete mystery.
Oh….and 19-0 Bitches!
unknown? no one ever heard of Ryan FItzpatrick?
im a little jealous Your beer is better than Mine, lol
LOL’ed at this
Ken says:
September 1, 2019 at 2:17 pm (Edit)
It means more reliance on beer to make the games more watchable
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Holy Hell. Are we even going to put a team on the field this year?
got it covered
That one on the break away is Drake. Queu trade in 5, 4, 3….….
All the Debbie Downers are Lemmings. Don’t listen to the echo chamber!
Is it weird that my new twitter obsession is posting Debbie downer gifs on mandos timeline
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1168534718280863745?s=21
Lol awesome
Stanger, do You still believe ross is paying every penny he is allowed for talent? cause to alot of folks see him being cheap as hell, to the point of tanking the season
even john denny ? when has denny been a cap problem?
these moves were made so Ross could be the cheapest owner in football, with the lowest payroll
Ross already had lowest payroll before the TUnsil, Stills, Alonso, and Denny moves
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1168534519751860224?s=21
Ross has put Flores into a shit sandwich situation
Flores doesnt want to tank, yet he has to go along with what his boss wants, and cover for his BS
Flores has had to cover for Ross before, when he played shitty jayz music to offend stills because Ross was mad at stills
now Flores has to convince everyone that fitz won, we arent tanking, etc
i think one day FLores will tell Ross to shove it, not covering for his lies anymore
maybe then Ross will just sell the team to someone that wants to win
I need in on this trend lol
I’m not panicking at all. I just thought we would try to be more competitive this season. Now it’s going to be more difficult. I was never concerned about what PFF thought of players, I think Tunsil was a very good LT, maybe top 10 in the NFL. Also keep in mind that we did give the Texans 2 players and some draft capital back in order to get the two 1st RD picks and the 2nd in 2021. We have them a 2020 4th and a 2021 6th. Not bad, but it wasn’t just Tunsil in exchange for those picks.
I don’t think that means we’re tanking this year, but I also don’t expect us to be very good. Honestly, my excitement level of watching us play right now is hovering under 50%, It could be ugly. We’re definitely stripped down now and ready to rebuild though, and watching that process play out the next couple of years will be more fun than watching the games IMO. Looking forward to the 2020 NFL Draft big time!
We have TWO 1st RD picks, TWO 2nd RD picks, TWO 3rd RD Picks, ONE 4th RD pick, TWO 5th RD picks, TWO 6th RD picks and TWO 7th RD picks. 13 total picks, including 6 in the first 3 rounds. That makes rebuilding a lot easier.
And that’s just 2020
Yep, we’re pretty stocked up for 2021 too, just not as much as 2020
We got two players from the Texans as well.
I’m actually looking forward to watching this team because of the new. I wasn’t expecting a winning season before the trades so nothing has changed for me.
LOVE THESE NEW ROSTER MOVES.
Get ready for the “Perfect Season in Reverse?”
I hope NOT.
HOWEVER, if a horrible season hastens Ross’s decision to sell the team, then maybe it’s worth one rotten season. This franchises’ biggest need is an owner who has the savvy to pick THE RIGHT PEOPLE to lead our favorite team back into the playoffs.
And that is something Steve Ross is NOT capable of.
100 percent agreed !
Also LOL’ed at Try’s post as well!
I definitely called that one.
Oh fuck! I really liked Taylor. Don’t get that
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I am more angry at cutting Denny than trading Tunsil or Alonso.
I’m disappointed, not angry that we cut Taylor.
debbie downer is hilarious,
she is attempting to be all negative, but at the same time is struggling to hold back a smile, lmao
This is bordering on weird now, guys.
i agree, its beginning to look like Ross tried to outsmart everyone with his cheap cheap cheap BS, but its not working, everyone is figuring it out
I believe you’re a nut!
Not sure of you all discussed this or not, too lazy to back, so . . .
David – Vincent Taylor wasn’t a money cut. He was only making $883K
I know he is a limited player, just a 6th rounder,
but he does block FG attempts and he gives %100.
normally that wouldnt be considered a money cut, but from the moves i see, with only a few exceptions
anything more than NFL minimum wage guys are gone or going
this Dolphins payroll is one of the lowest the NFL has seen in several years, if not the lowest
Ross is extremely cheap, and doesnt care if the team suffers or not. its just a real estate investment to him, and when he sells, he will get returns on his investment
Taylor is a bottom churn he had some potential for sure but he is still a bottom of the roster guy and they must have someone else they like better out there
Also let’s not forget the “locker room revolt” that was promised if the got rid of Tunsil. Maybe so e of these late and surprising cuts might be a part of that
does anyone here understand a salary cap floor?
Is that where the FO leaves all it’s Legos so Ross steps on them in the middle of then night?
John Jenkins picked up to replace Taylor
Jenkins is an upgrade imo
Amazing to me the Ross is cheap campaign. Just . . . wow
thats what the evidence suggested ,
BEFORE losing Tunsil, Stills, Denny, ALonso, Taylor,
before losing these guys Miami had the cheapest payroll by over 10 million
its not looking any better now,