Dolphins make some surprise cuts – Look to potentially add DE Jadeveon Clowney in a trade with Texans

As you all probably know already, the Dolphins made some cuts yesterday, not reporting this, just recapping what’s happened. One of the bigger surprises was cutting DT Akeem Spence who we picked up last year from Detroit for a conditional 2019 7th RD pick. Also somewhat a surprise was cutting safety T.J. McDonald. Not surprising was parting ways with OL Will Holden (Not to be confused with actor William Holden). We also waived OT Jordan Mills who when we first picked him up after Buffalo released him I thought he may be our starting RT this season. The way he performed for us in practice and in the preseason made it clear that wasn’t going to happen. Also waived were LB Chase Allen, and veteran TE Clive Walford.

Now to the big news. The Dolphins met with Jadeveon Clowney yesterday, although Clowney did not deem the Miami Dolphins originally as a potential suitor. He preferred the Seattle Seahawks, but after meeting with Dolphins HC Brian Flores, his opinion may have changed. At the moment, it actually seems as if the Dolphins are the team most likely to land Clowney, but at what price? Keep in mind, the price is two-fold. We have to trade talent to the Texans in exchange for Clowney, and then we have to pay Clowney. He signed a 1 year deal worth just under $16M, but what happens after this season? Therein lies the rub . . .

I had to drive from one office to another yesterday and I had the pleasure of catching some good dialogue between NFL Radio hosts Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller. Pat Kirwan is not the foremost authority on everything NFL, but as a former HC and NFL GM, he’s well respected in NFL circles. Kirwan was very much against the Dolphins acquiring Clowney and made some excellent points. He was saying that Clowney hasn’t been a premier player while playing with J.J. Watt. This reminds me of tha situation the Dolphins had years ago. Flash back to the year 2002 when the Dolphins had Jason Taylor and Adewale Ogunleye. That year, Taylor had 18.5 sacks, Ogunleye chipped in with 9.5 sacks. This is a similar situation, it really is. Clowney having the benefit of possibly the most disruptive defensive player in the game hasn’t ever achieved double digits in sacks. BTW, Ogunleye only achieved double digit sacks once with CHI, and only once (10) in 2005. Granted, Watt hasn’t been able to stay healthy, but I’m loathe to give Clowney a huge contract when he’s never been a game changer. He’s young, he’s only 26, but where’s the beef? Understood he was injured his 1st season in 2014, and maybe had a hangover from that injury in 2015. Where’s the explosive stats after that? 24.5 sacks in 3 seasons. Sure, it’s better than what we have, but is it worthy of trading top talent away and then backing up a Brinks truck and paying him handsomely after too? I wouldn’t do it. 2015 Watt had 17.5 sacks and FIFTY QB hits. Clowney?4.5 sacks, 8 QB hits.

To me this more about getting a name than production, and as Naples mentioned, all too similar to acquiring Ndamukong Suh. I know we need help at DE, I’d rather run with the young guys who have shown some promise than really overpay twice to get Clowney, one in trade compensation and two having to pay some exorbitant contract for him over the next few years. I don’t think he’s worth it. Nothing wrong with kicking the tires, but don’t please don’t make the purchase!

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1,362 Responses to Dolphins make some surprise cuts – Look to potentially add DE Jadeveon Clowney in a trade with Texans

  1. Rockphin says:

    The Dolphins’ current 53-man roster includes 27 players who were not on the active roster at the time of the 2017 season opener against the Los Angeles Chargers: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB Josh Rosen, RB Mark Walton, RB Myles Gaskin, FB Chandler Cox, RB Patrick Laird, WR Preston Williams, WR Allen Hurns, TE Nick O’Leary, TE Chris Myarick, G Shaq Calhoun, G Michael Deiter, C/G Chris Reed, T Isaiah Prince, G Evan Boehm, G Danny Isidora, DE Nate Orchard, DT Adolphus Washington, DT Christian Wilkins, DE Jonathan Ledbetter, LB Andrew Van Ginkel, LB Sam Eguavoen, LB Terrill Hanks, CB Eric Rowe, CB Chris Lammons, CB Jomal Wiltz, S Montre Hartage.

  2. wyoming85 says:

    I’m more thinking that the contract talks with Tunsil didn’t go so well this off season

    I could be wrong?!

  3. drg says:

    Maybe it isn’t popular, but I love it. We all knew this was a mediocre team in 2019 at best. Why even go through the motions? Now we’ve got a ton of young guys to develop, lots of room to bring more guys with potential in, and best of all, a ton of draft capital to build with. This is a 2-3 year process. Unless one of the QBs is there for us in 2020, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us trade down or just go BPA and sell out for a QB in 2021.

    This season is going to miserable. I can live with it because it will be fun to watch the growth and potential ahead of us.

    Trust the Process

  4. mf13ss says:

    And we might not be finished adding more.

  5. wyoming85 says:

    This news is going to kill the “Beat-Off” writers!

    They have broken out their Tank for Tua shirts!

  6. naplesfan2010 says:

    Big Question. Did Flores know about this? is he in favor of this?
    How is he going to spin this to the locker room?
    How is he going to keep the team trying if they know they are tanking?

  7. Rockphin says:

    This is a 2-3 year process. Unless one of the QBs is there for us in 2020, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us trade down or just go BPA and sell out for a QB in 2021.

    Yes and no DRG, it isn’t only a three year process. It is a cyclical repeating process with free agency the way it is.

    The best teams year in and out are the ones that are better and turning less into more and acquiring talent (I.e. draft picks) rather than losing it for nothing.

    I just hope these coaches are the ones to coach up the guys we get with all this capitol

  8. mf13ss says:

    I see the Stealers* have cut Sutton Smith, after trying him out as a fullback?!! I’d kick the tires on him, seriously… but I thought I’d heard he’s battling an injury of sorts. He’s a natty LB who’s a tad on the light side, but he’s absolutely incredible.

  9. mf13ss says:

    I see the Colts have cut Skai Moore, designated as a LB. He’s a S at the pro-level, Colts… unless you were only trying him in nickle packages at LB. Kick the tires on Skai as a backup Safety.

  10. mf13ss says:

    I see the Raiders cut Eddie Vanderdoes?!! I’m surprised, and intrigued. Kick tires.

  11. Tim Knight says:

    I feel the same way drg does. They’re completely turning over the roster and rebuilding from the ground up. Nobody thought we were winning much this season anyway so stick to the plan. What Grier said early in the offseason is very real. I’ve been saying as a fan I’m going with the flow and still am.

  12. CavalierKong says:

    The trade can be debated on our side, and we won’t know the true outcome for us until we see what we get out of the picks we acquired, but from the Texans standpoint, I’m not sure how they considered this a good trade. Were they a LT away from a SB? They better hope so, because they traded away their prime draft picks for the next two years.

  13. mf13ss says:

    As I mentioned yesterday, I see the Lions have cut Teez Tabor. Definitely should kick the tires on him. Drafted in the 2nd round last year, CB out of Florida. What’s going on there?

  14. Krishna says:

    Stunned….state of perpetual motion. More lost than ever.

  15. mf13ss says:

    The Vikings cut DERRON SMITH?!! After the incredible season he had in the AAF?!!
    You hear that, ER?!!
    KICK the tires on him!!! What’s going on there?!!

  16. Krishna says:


  17. naplesfan2010 says:

    I’m exhausted from this day.
    I need to sleep this off.

  18. manitobafinfan says:

    Hang in there Krishna.. tough times but they will get easier.. personally and Dolphinsally

  19. Krishna says:

    Better nail every 1sst and 2nd round and start over next year. Didn’t think this was Flores’ way. Hmmmmm.

  20. mf13ss says:

    I see the Rams have cut Josh Carroway, after trying him out at LB. Carroway can BEND from the DE position. Why they tried him at LB, I have no idea. Kick tires.

  21. Rockphin says:

    2▪ Quarterback: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Josh Rosen.
    6▪ Running backs: Kenyan Drake, Kalen Ballage, Mark Walton, Patrick Laird, Myles Gaskin and fullback Chandler Cox.
    5▪ Wide receiver: DeVante Parker, Albert Wilson, Jakeem Grant, Preston Williams, Allen Hurns.
    4▪ Tight end: Mike Gesicki, Nick O’Leary, Durham Smythe and Myarick.
    10▪ Offensive line: Tackles Juli’en Davenport, Jesse Davis, Zach Sterup, Isaiah Prince; center Daniel Kilgore; rookie guards Michael Deiter and Shaq Calhoun and backup interior linemen Chris Reed, Danny Isidora and Evan Boehm.
    3▪ Defensive ends/edge rushers: Charles Harris, Nate Orchard and Jonathan Ledbetter
    4▪ Defensive tackles: Christian Wilkins, Davon Godchaux, Vincent Taylor, Adolphus Washington
    6▪ Linebackers: Jerome Baker, Sam Eguavoen, Kiko Alonso, Raekwon McMillan, Andrew Van Ginkel and Terrill Hanks
    5▪ Safeties: Reshad Jones, Bobby McCain, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Walt Aikens and Montre Hartage
    5▪ Cornerbacks: Xavien Howard, Eric Rowe, Jomal Wiltz, Chris Lammons and Johnson Bademosi.

  22. Tim Knight says:

    The most annoying thing about all of this is the local beat reporters will be saying tank everyday and tweeting about the college QBs ad nauseam. Regardless of where our team is at there still is a season to play.

  23. Krishna says:

    Why would you give up your blindside long term security…. as best as that is. Clueless.

  24. mf13ss says:

    I see the Seahawks have cut LB Jawuan Johnson, former NIU LB (transferred to TCU) who has unbelievable hands. Perhaps better suited to play Safety in the NFL. Kick tires.

  25. D says:

    Tabor is a good player but he hasn’t really broke the starting lineup there. He has had some injuries slow him down too. He is currently injured and I think the just cut their losses. He was a pick by the old regime too

  26. D says:

    Hanks got cut I thought Rock

  27. mf13ss says:

    That’s all I’ve got for the cuts made by other teams that we might be interested. And of course, there are several notable QBs who got cut (y’all mentioned most of them above, good job).

  28. Krishna says:

    And, I’m so stupid, who his protecting ANY of our QBs blindside….good luck with Rosen’s development.

    He gets to start off with where left off… Tannehill/bechs ville…ducked up QB world. Woo, hoo

    Brady sat for 3 years behind Bledsoe. Get real!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Brady didn’t sit behind Bledsoe for 3 years, he started 14 games in his 2nd season and the rest is history.

  29. Krishna says:

    Ok…. lol …hope that is translatable.

  30. D says:

    Fromm playing tonight but pay attention to their LT he is supposed to be one of the best in college this year

  31. mf13ss says:

    Oh yeah… FYI, if anyone is watching the Oregon-Auburn game, QB Justin Herbert is WITHOUT his top 3 (yes, THREE) WRs (note the plural) in this game. So if he has a bad game tonight, take it with a grain of salt. But if he has a big game tonight, he’s going up boards.

  32. Krishna says:

    And, because Brady was groomed he performed and was ready when his timed was called. Facts! Look it up.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Brady was groomed as a rookie, in his 2nd season Bledsoe got hurt in the 2nd game and Brady took over from there. Rodgers was groomed for 3 years behind Favre.

  33. D says:

    Texans had to make a big move because they are only 3 years before the have to have pay Watson or reboot. Just like us with Tunsil we weren’t going to be close enough at the time we had to resign that we could justify not taking that deal an trying to find a replacement

  34. Krishna says:

    I want Rosen running for his life day one. … perfect way to develop a QB day one…..perfect.

    Imo….so stupid.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Rosen is not starting out of the gate, Fitz is. And can we stop acting like Tunsil is Anthony Muñoz. We’re in a rebuild, not sure why you thought we were going to be a contender. This is phase one of the rebuild and yes it will be painful. But this is all set up to revamp the roster big time in 2020. You can see it from a mile away. Grier and Flores want to build this team in their vision and this is how that happens. Does it matter what our record is this year not making the playoffs which we weren’t?

      Not saying you were always saying this but how many times have we seen fans post here to blow it up? The problem is most fans can’t handle what that actually means.

  35. mf13ss says:

  36. D says:

    Right now, Love had a bad game, Lawrence had a bad game, Tua rocked it but it was a poopy team, same for Eason. Fromm is looking pretty good right now but Vandy is kinda weak this year. Hebert is looking pretty good.

    Now a little inside reason I’m not big on Eason. Eason wanted to transfer to UF, but they wouldn’t guarantee the start so he slinked back to UF and then left when Fromm was in competition with him. That’s a kinda shitty mentality imo. That’s not to say he can’t get past it and it’s not to say a lot of kids these days aren’t like that. Still that just struck me as a bad attitude. Come in and win it, don’t pussy out because you have to compete.

  37. Krishna says:

    The only two, maybe one, QBs heading to HOF that are still playing are Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. And, they both held a clipboard for their first 3 years.

    I know everyone is so much smarter, but can someone please explain this to me.

  38. mf13ss says:

    I saw somebody on Twitter say that Herbert reminds him of Carson Wentz in many ways… I concur.

  39. Rockphin says:

    no one seems to be too upset about losing the Dolphins leading scorer over the past 3 years

  40. Krishna says:

    Let’s overanalyze QB play first week of college football to get the edge. Fantastic.

    • D says:

      Krishna, buddy, it’s ok. We can’t change what happened and we can’t over think it. Just roll with it bro. You have too much stuff on you right now to add sweating dolphins moves to your load.

    • mf13ss says:

      But we already know who the upper-crust QBs are, due to last year and the fact that some stayed for their senior year.

  41. Krishna says:

    Brady sat for a season or more.

  42. ocalarob says:

    Great move, we were going to have to pay Tunsil anyway, in the right scheme the QB will make any OL look great

  43. Krishna says:

    I’m stunned we gave up our LT!

    First bad move of this regime. Imo.

    • D says:

      I dunno. Yeah right now it sucks but considering this year wsnt going to be a competitive one, I think it could work out for the future. I mean that’s what we gotta hope for right now right?

  44. ocalarob says:

    Got rid of Stills too, fabulous!

  45. D says:

    mf13ss says:
    August 31, 2019 at 8:46 pm
    I think it’s more about size, scanning, throwing motions, and stuff like that. Absolutely agreed about wildly different systems.
    Yeah he has a really good arm and throwing motion.

    • mf13ss says:

      I should have added awareness, as well. Herbert is definitely a good looking prospect. Can’t wait to see what he adds to his resume this year.

  46. ocalarob says:

    I’m thinking Drake is the next to go, why else would we keep 6 RBs?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I thought the same thing. He’s a FA next year. He can a help a contending team.

    • mf13ss says:

      I thought about this, as well. If our O-Line is going to suck so badly this year, we’re going to absolutely kill Drake’s value after the fact. NOW may be the time to maximize his trade value. As I said earlier… we might be adding even MORE picks to our 2020 Draft cabinet.

  47. D says:

    I did see a stat on Hebert that was a little bleh. 38% completion percent when pressured. 68% when not

  48. ocalarob says:

    we are frick’n loaded in next years draft!

  49. D says:

    Georgia OL looks great. Run and pass pro

  50. D says:

    Hebert just coughed it up and Auburn almost ran it all the way back

  51. Krishna says:

    I’m thinking Rosen will be crushed/
    PSTDed by year end.

    Can’t really understand football without an OL. Again, much too stupid.

  52. mf13ss says:

    WHAT A GAME so far between Oregon and Auburn! Most exciting!

  53. D says:

    Nix is a true freshman QB.

  54. Tim Knight says:

    Saying our OL is going to suck and get everyone killed is pure speculation. We haven’t even seen a RS game yet.

  55. Krishna says:

    Who gives a fuck how loaded we are at a crapshoot draft. 50/50 would be amazing 10 % would be fabulous. We gave up a sure thing. Gambling at its best.

    We gave away talent for a dream. Perfect logic.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Tunsil is one player. He’s a quality LT but has never made a pro bowl or been named to all-pro teams. Now we’re acting like we just traded Anthony Muñoz.

      We’re starting over on so many levels. It is what it is, man.

    • Ken says:

      Krishna is speaking truth

  56. ocalarob says:

    it’s a young mans game, most winning teams build through the draft. did anyone think we are going to the SB this year?

  57. Tim Knight says:

    I’m surprised Bat hasn’t chimed in. He’s been a big proponent of blowing it up! LOL

  58. mf13ss says:

    • Tim Knight says:

      This will be the narrative everyday all season long. The Heat are not really relevant, Jeter is dismantling the Marlins, now the Dolphins with what they’re doing and nobody cares about hockey. LOL

      • mf13ss says:

        As you stated above, “it is what it is”. But ya know what? Our future is looking GRAND!!!

        It’s going to suck BADLY for the next year or two… but we’re going to come out of it stronger than ever before on the other end.

      • mf13ss says:

        I DO think I’m preaching to the choir when I say this to ya! 🙂

      • Tim Knight says:

        This season looks headed for tough times but it wasn’t going to be good before this big trade. I do not think 2020 has to suck. We’re going to see a completely different team in 2020. I’d say the roster will be at least 20+ players different than this year’s team. This is what a commitment to a rebuild looks like.

      • Ken says:

        The plan is to suck in 2020 also so they can get Lawrence

  59. Ken says:

    This team is going to suck giant ass. I mean like giant Sasquatch ass

    • mf13ss says:

      I think it has to happen in order to get going in the REAL right direction. YES… it’s going to suck this year, BIG TIME. But when we come out on the other end, we may actually become a FRANCHISE contender. We’ve not been as much for some time.

      • Ken says:

        Same story different year and soon to be different decade. Me, I am getting ready for some hairy giant Sasquatch ass.

  60. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, I don’t agree about 2020. That team should be much better then the 2019 team. Tons of cap space and draft picks.

    • Ken says:

      See comment above to M13. Insert same response here

      • Tim Knight says:

        Weren’t you a blow it up guy when we still tried to contend under Tannenbaum? So how is it same story different year? We haven’t done anything like this since 2008. We kept trying to build on it with new personnel people and coaches. Blowing it up looks like this. It’s not easy.

      • Ken says:

        I expected dynamite maybe some C4 but we went straight to nuclear winter

  61. pheloniusphish says:

    19-0 Bitches.

  62. pheloniusphish says:

    Everybody keeps saying Miami lacks talent. Well this is how you acquire talent.

  63. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, you think trading Tunsil and Stills is nuclear winter?

    The reason for trading Tunsil was we were not prepared to pay him elite LT money next year between $80-100M. The reason we traded Stills and the writing was on the wall is because he’s not all about do your job, he’s now a political activist. That goes against Flores’ team first mentality. The same reason Kaepernick is no longer in the league.

    • Ken says:

      He was still 2 years under contract. We were in good situation and there is no reason we couldn’t have signed him. He is the kind of talent you build around. It’s a shit sandwich 🥪 they selling us otherwise

      • Tim Knight says:

        Do you remember what Jimmy Johnson did in 1996? New regime’s clean house. You’ve been wanting a blow up and you got it! This is what that looks like.

  64. Randy says:

    I think the reason we traded Tunsil was because the Texans had a serious brain meltdown and made a ridiculous offer. Lol There is NOBODY….NOBODY…on this team I wouldn’t have given up in a trade like that. Tunsil is good…not great. Easy trade.
    Thank you Houston, and go ahead and take another player if you like just to be nice! Lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      Agreed but I think X-Howard is a top corner in this league. I think we’re trying to revamp the defense and get good there first, and eventually turn over the offense. STs seems to be a focus too. Stay in the game on defense and STs and grow the offense. We’re not complete on defense or offense yet though. We’re pretty good on STs. LOL

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I wouldn’t turn down two first to runners for anyone one the team

      We fleeced the Texans
      It’s not even close

  65. sb7mvp says:

    The sky isn’t falling. Someone’s step kid is throwing acorns over your fence.

  66. The Flying Pig says:

    LaCanfora loves it

  67. The Flying Pig says:

    I keep mentioning his name – here is some perspective

    Joe Thomas retired with career record of 48-128
    And he was a beast and a better LT than Tunsil will ever be

    An elite OL is important
    But an elite LT on a shitty teamis worthless


  68. Tim Knight says:

    So who will be the opening day OL?
    LT Sterup
    LG Deiter
    C Kilgore
    RG Calhoun
    RT Davis

  69. Randy says:

    Wow, this Nix kid for Auburn just had a great late, go ahead drive. Big time throw for a TD.

  70. TryPod says:

    I like it- for the first time in a looooooooong time, I feel like there is a commitment to a long term plan. The writing seemed to be on the wall (with Tunsil), with all the trade rumors. I actually think Ross had finally committed to a structure that has the best interest of the team as it’s only priority, something that has been missing for the last decade+.

  71. steveccnv says:

    The trade was awful for this year, great for next year, if you’re rebuilding how is that bad?

    Especially since Flores doesn’t value LT.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t think it’s about not valuing LT, but more about having to pay big time money at a position that has never made a huge difference the last few years.

  72. pheloniusphish says:

    Kiko is next. I like him, plays with passion, but doesn’t seem to be a fit with the new defense. So what do we get for Him? Given his salary, I am guessing a 5th.

  73. naplesfan2010 says:

    We could trade a first and 4th this year for DeShaun Watson and we’d have our franchise QB.

  74. naplesfan2010 says:

    So who will be the opening day OL?
    LT Davenport?
    LG Deiter
    C Kilgore
    RG Calhoun
    RT Davis

  75. ocalarob says:

    i don’t think (not having tunsil) will make a big difference in the win/loss column.

    i expect this team to play well and win some games.

  76. ocalarob says:

    i think watson had a lot to do with the texans ol troubles, holds the ball long, looping delivery and is always looking to break the pocket by scrambling. all this adds up to the OL trying to hold their blocks but cant as they dont know what he’s doing or where he’s at. tunsil may not fare any better than davenport. i don’t think this is the case in our offense, i think this will be a disciplined offense and fitz will get rid of the ball quickly and precisely, i have seen in preseason a glimpse of how disciplined this offense will be, on a long play to the TE the offense ran down the field and set up in a matter of moments, hiked and ran the ball, it looked impressive. i think we will see a lot of that exact offense this year.

  77. olddolphan says:

    HERE’s MY TAKE ON THE BIG TRADE. #1 A Shitty offensive line just got shittier. Our running game will suffer. Our QB’s literally, will SUFFER A LOT!! Fitzpatrick, who may be a bit quicker at 36 than is Rosen at 23, has a better chance at survival. Maybe.
    #2 MIAMI IS now the overwhelming favorite to win the “TUA SWEEPSTAKES.” That’s a GOOD THING.
    #3 WHO IS GONNA MAKE THE SELECTIONS?? —If it’s someone approved by STEVE ROSS, that is definitely BAD NEWS. IF ROSS SELLS THE TEAM BEFORE THE NEXT DRAFT, that could be GOOD NEWS (but who really knows for sure?).
    #4 MIAMI’S RECENT HISTORY OF GETTING RID OF GOOD DRAFT PICKS CONTINUES. Landry, Ajayi, Tunsil—they are all gone!!! All are victims of the Steve Ross regime.
    #5 As of this second, the Dolphin franchise has a 72-89 record under Ross’s ownership. That’s 17 games below .500 for you math wizards. Add a 3-13 recrd to that and Little Stevie Blunder’s record falls to 75-102!!


  78. ocalarob says:

    the beauty of this deal is dumping still’s 8 mil contract but more important his off field distractions. he’s not really a blocking wr either.

  79. olddolphan says:

    IT WILL BE INTERESTING to see what FAU’s Devin Singletary does this season now that he’s with the Bills. His impressive summer camp allowed Buffalo to ditch LeSean McCoy.

  80. ocalarob says:

    what sucks is the ravens game will not be televised here, oh well….off to the winghouse.

  81. ocalarob says:

    i doubt this regime is focused on Tua, i think they have their QBs, you don’t give up a #2 pick for a QB not play him then draft one and use the resources to get him early in round 1. doesnt make sense.
    i think Rosen is definitely the future qb of this team

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t think giving up a second round pick for a QB and then drafting a franchise QB the following year is so unusual

      I doubt they are focused on one QB in 2020
      There’s a lot of good ones other than tua

      But I think they may be open to drafting one

      • ocalarob says:

        they may, i just don’t think they use the early draft pick resources to draft a qb with say the #1 overall pick. Rosen will be very seasoned and ready at that time imo

    • Rockphin says:

      I fucking hope not he sucks

  82. wyoming85 says:

    Here’s my take again!
    You can’t say this front office will not keep our talent! ( See X )
    X and Tunsil were both in contract negotiations earlier this year if my memory serves me?

    One got his extension and is very happily playing for the team!

    The other one didn’t for whatever reason? Then they get a call saying the brinks truck is out front and whatever stopped the negotiations just made it easier to say yes?

    I’m in the corner of I’d have trade anyone for the compensation!

    Even X!

  83. ocalarob says:

    this hurricane is a monster! strong cat 5 pressure 922 mb with winds at 175 mph sustained! unbelievable! FL is still not off the hook yet, the bahamas are getting ready to be hammered by this beast!

    • olddolphan says:

      Right you are, Rob. The northern Bahama Islands will suffer a devastating blow–maybe worse than the Panama City/Mexico Beach area last year. My heart goes out to them.

      • olddolphan says:

        REGARDING ROSEN: The starter for the Dolphins for the first game next year IS NOT currently on Miami’s roster. ESPECIALLY if Ross sells the team before the next draft.

      • ocalarob says:

        never heard anything about ross selling miami????

  84. The Flying Pig says:

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I know you guys are all writing the Texans in the Super Bowl, but I’m pretty sure at best they are 2-2 when September is over

  85. The Flying Pig says:

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      ok I get that, but there is a diminishing return to piling up the draft picks, right?

      is an all-rookie team the way to go? Won’t there be hell to pay when all those stars need big contracts? So what do we do then? suck for a guy in 10th grade now and perpetually go from 2-14 years to 12-4 years in a cycle?

      I’m not a fan of that. That is why I have quit with MLB and NBA.

      Those teams are not my guys; they are just rent-a-teams

      • The Flying Pig says:

        It probably would not be so good to have 10 picks in the first two rounds

        But it would be fun in April…

  86. The Flying Pig says:

  87. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

  88. Rockphin says:

    Are used to like Dave hide but I think he’s a fucking moron playing with panic card here

    One player and now were the number one pick two years in a row?? Stupid article don’t read it.

  89. BailBondMike says:

    Fromm playing tonight but pay attention to their LT he is supposed to be one of the best in college this year
    D, Fromm looked decent, but man, you are on it about that OL. Georgia looks to have the best OL in college football and that LT is a beast. Going to keep a close eye on him through the season. Is he draft eligible next year?

  90. i wanted to hate the Tunsil trade, because hey, he is our best OL

    but we ripped off the texans , they made other questionable moves, and didnt get good value for their trades

    everybody loved Tunsil, so much that we overlooked the fact that Tunsil was PFF 36th rated tackle in the NFL last season

    36 is NOT elite, its just average at best, we should be able to find an average OT with all of these draft picks

    one more thought, the FIns are obviously wanting Tua and Rosen to be their two main QB,s

    Tunsil plays left tackle and Tua is left handed. for a left handed QB, the emphasis is not on the LT, but the RT

    Tunsil would have to play a different position that pays less, so he likely wouldnt want to move to RT

    if the team goes for TUa, dont be surprised if they draft a RT first instead of a LT

    Stills will be missed as well, but he basically had little trade value, so all in all Miami won this trade, even though it doesnt help til next year

    the browns approach, they showed the NFL how to rebuild, and the Fins are taking a page out of the browns playbook on rebuilding


  91. naplesfan2010 says:

    The new way is scheme fit (should’ve always been that) instead of forcing a round peg …

  92. steveccnv says:

    I agree with ORob’s assessment of Watson, holds the ball too long. So if you put Davenport in our O and he gives up only half 6 sacks, can we live with that?

    The pressures may tell the real story though. As we saw in preseason, except against Jax we moved the ball despite the bad OL.

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