Player Spotlight : CB Eric Rowe

We have X on one side, that much is a given. The way the Dolphins have chosen to finish the equation is X + R = CB Bliss. It’s actually a big risk. Rowe has been a part time player for the first 4 years of his career. He was drafted in the 2nd RD in 2015 by the Philadelphia Eagles. Rowe played in all 16 games for the Eagles in his rookie year, starting 5. New England was in need of a CB in 2016 and sent a conditional 4th RD pick in 2018, which at best could have turned into a 3rd RD pick if performance measures were met. Why did Philly give up on their guy so quickly, so much so that they had to wait 2 years to get compensation back for him? Very odd.

At the NFL combine, Rowe was a monster. He ran 4.45 at 6’1 205, a 3.97 20 YD shuttle which is super quick for a guy that size, a 6.70 cone drill which shows elite agility and a 39″ vertical which shows elite explosion.. Maybe that’s why Philly took him in the 2nd RD, he Mike Mamula’d them. They pretty much gave up on the guy after one season.

Rowe started only 12 games in 3 seasons for the Patriots and played in 21 games. I’m not saying Eric Rowe can’t be the guy, but so far 2 teams, and make that 2 very solid organizations like the Eagles and Patriots can’t find a way to get this guy to work, it’s a little disconcerting. He has played well in practice and looked good in the preseason so far, but it just shows how poor our quality depth is at CB at the moment after Xavien Howard. Cornell Armstrong, Jalen Davis, Chris Lammons, Cordrea Tankersley and David Rivers. Chris Lammons has flashed some but is anyone here confident that he can handle the pressure of being picked on constantly as teams avoid throwing to the side X is on? That’s a lot to handle.

Some guys develop late, some guys just need the right opportunity to shine. It looks like Rowe is going to be given every opportunity and more to seize the job opposite X so it won’t be for a lack of chances that he doesn’t succeed here. Eric Rowe was a starter at CB in college at Utah. Who was that big Utah CB we had here that everyone loved? Was it Sun Sentinel, er Sean Smith? Smith was a lightning rod. Some hated him, some defended him. My recollection is I was a Sean Smith sympathizer. I thought he was unfairly treated by the haters although he was never a great player for us. He was at the very least a serviceable player for us. Smith started 56 games in 4 seasons for us. Can Rowe give us anything like that? The SS haters will hate this statement, but if Rowe can be as good as Sean Smith, I think we’ve done well.

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  1. ocalarob says:

    pats have josh gordon and demarius thomas, to great wrs in their time, i wonder if they can still get it done? with brady that combo could be great!

    • D says:

      I think Thomas is used up, but he is still a big body target, so he has a role for them, just not as dynamic as it was. Gordon i think still has the elite potential but his head isnt screwed on right and he also isnt the most refined pass route runner so he isnt going to be versatile in their system. He’s kinda what Moss was for them, one trick pony so they will need other scary threats to keep the safeties from doubling Gordon. That use to be Gronk, but now we will see what they do. Together they might give them a complete reciver, but both individually i dont think are star potential anymore.

  2. ocalarob says:

    Godchaux, Wilkins, Taylor, Washington. MBU
    Harris, Carradine, Orchard, Ledbetter

  3. steveccnv says:

    If you aren’t a star and can’t play multiple positions on D, you’ll likely be shown the door. See ya Spence.

    Miami’s exotic D coming to a stadium near you.

    • D says:

      Yeah he is a straight up 3 tech 4-3 DT, dime a dozen to be honest. Thats your most common DT. We need someone that can switch between 1 and 3, or 3 and 5 or 5 and 7 or 9, ie the pass rush OLB.

      • D says:

        Van Ginkle is the LB version of these guys though i think he would be more of a OLB/ILB hybrid and probably wouldnt ever be hands down on the LOS

  4. naplesfan2010 says:

    I don’t think Mbu will make it to the 53 and i think Pittman goes on the PS.
    I think the next cut might be OG Dunn and / or Dwayne Allen.
    Or Horn.
    Horn has been the most invisible WR in Training Camp, however,
    so maybe they give him some snaps against NO.
    I think they keep WR Trenton Irwin on the PS.

    • D says:

      What you got against Mbu? His name to short? Lol. He is the only other guy like Wilkins we have on the roster, and he has played pretty well. Maybe he doesn’t but I think he has more of a shot than a few others

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        nothing against Mbu, but I just don’t think he makes the team. I have not noticed him flashing a pro skill set.

  5. naplesfan2010 says:

    I bet Rudock plays the whole 2nd half in the Superdome, maybe more.

  6. Tim Knight says:

    Spence was a surprise to me but not the end of the world. I like Chase Allen but he’s had trouble staying healthy and he’s been mostly a backup and STs guy so not a surprise cut. Mills didn’t look good and Walford was kind of a long shot

  7. naplesfan2010 says:
  8. naplesfan2010 says:

    actually glad we cut both Mills and Holden as they were liabilities in pass pro.
    sorry to see Spence go, but he is like TJ, just not a good fit.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Mills looked really sluggish. Don’t know if that’s always been the case or he wasn’t in shape or just not the same player that started all those games in BUF at RT.

  9. Rockphin says:

    D says:
    August 27, 2019 at 3:36 pm
    What you got against Mbu?

    Can the kid buy a vowel? M_bu there is something missing there.

  10. Rockphin says:

    CavalierKong says:
    August 27, 2019 at 3:56 pm
    Is Rudock practice squad eligible?

    Reply

    I read an article recently that all but maybe 10 of the 90 we have are practice squad eligible.

  11. naplesfan2010 says:

    I like TE Chris Mayrick for the PS.

    I don’t think Hurns makes the 53,
    because he still does not look right to me,
    like his last injury took a step away from his quicks.

  12. naplesfan2010 says:

    They must decide between DeLuca and Hanks for the last LB spot.
    I don’t think they have room for both. I like both, though.

    Poling is done. Too bad.

  13. naplesfan2010 says:

    Clowney fired his agent.

    They say Ajayi did NOT sign with Houston.

  14. naplesfan2010 says:

    Send Parker and Sterup to Houston for Clowney.

  15. naplesfan2010 says:

    Lamar Jackson wants to throw 30 passes a game.
    I hope he tries that against us, because we WILL pick one or two of those.

  16. Tim Knight says:

    We also just cleared up more cap space that would help in landing Clowney.

    • stangerx says:

      Cap space for Clowney not a problem. But that is me assuming only way he comes here is if he agrees to a long term deal. You’ve seen how low those can be done as far as first year cap hit.

  17. D says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    August 27, 2019 at 4:31 pm

    Send Parker and Sterup to Houston for Clowney.
    ————————————————–
    Id sent Parker and Stills. Williams has been playing well enough and Grant is emergin in such a way that i do not see the need for either of those two. Still would make the deal much sweeter for Houston. I wouldnt be ashamed of our WRs if it was Williams Wilson and Grant, with Butler and Ford as the guys they mixed in. Pick up a guy off cuts and still carry 6.

  18. D says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    August 27, 2019 at 4:30 pm

    Clowney fired his agent.

    They say Ajayi did NOT sign with Houston.
    ————————————————-
    They said that Clowney may not want to be traded at all and thats why he fired his agent, so its a possibility this all ends with him reporting and hitting FA next year.

  19. D says:

    manitobafinfan says:
    August 27, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    interesting.. I was not aware of this part…
    Clowney cannot sign a multiyear contract with the Texans — or any other team, including the Dolphins — this season, but could attempt to negotiate off of the one-year tender.
    ————————————————–
    Yeah its basically reserving the inside track to re-signing him to a multi-year deal and getting use from him this year.

  20. D says:

    I kinda like the Trent Irwin kid as a possible WR if we move Stills and/or Parker. He’s in the mold of that Welker, Edleman, etc type receiver that im sure our OC likes,

  21. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 27, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    I was just pointing out that we cleared more cap space.
    ——————————————-
    there is no doubt we are trying to make the move. Getting it done will be a different matter.

  22. D says:

    Lions released that Zach Zenner kid that some of you on here liked, though i cant remember who it was that was all about him.

  23. naplesfan2010 says:

    I was just trying to be funny about Parker and Sterup to Houston as in saying they are two guys nobody would want because neither has ever done anything in the league.

    • D says:

      I think they would be interested in rolling the dice on Parker, i do think that would be a decent offer, but to get it done we would have to offer them something legit like Stills to get it done, Tunsil would be a no brainer for them, but like i said i wouldn’t even mention him much less make that trade. Id rather have Tunsil than Clowney any day, but having them both if possible would be very nice.

  24. naplesfan2010 says:

    A real trade with Houston is to send them Stills and Mark Walton.
    They might like that. It would also save them a ton of money from not needing to pay Clowns.

  25. Mike E. says:

    Drake is closer to Lamar Miller, although I think Drake could be better

  26. naplesfan2010 says:

    I am really looking forward to Drake in a creative Offense that sets him up for catching passes on a dead run. No one can run him down from behind.

  27. naplesfan2010 says:

    Antonio Brown tweets to Big Ben “We were never friends.”

  28. stangerx says:

    Thanks Toba — if Clowney can’t sign long term with us then he is dead to me. But then he did visit. Maybe we can get him one year on the real cheap…. and not talking salary but trade.

  29. stangerx says:

    “Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle writes that the Clowney-Flores meeting went well…..However, Clowney would need to be persuaded to join the Dolphins, and prefers the Seattle Seahawks and Philadelphia Eagles.”

  30. Tim Knight says:

    I guess the way the Clowney trade would work is we pay him the franchise tag this year then try to negotiate a new deal next season and if that fails we franchise him in 2020 and go from there.

  31. CavalierKong says:

    A couple of players, less than a 1st rd pick, and potentially a year to see if it works… 🤔

  32. stangerx says:

    AB@AB84
    Never friends just had to get my ends…….shut up already
    ——————-
    AB to a fairly nice Big Ben tweet

  33. naplesfan2010 says:

    Big Ben is no hero to me for sure.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Yep, the Steelers fans I know out here, that are actually from Pitt, don’t think much of him as a person. I’ve heard a lot of anecdotal stories of his drunken asshatery from his younger years.

  34. naplesfan2010 says:

    I say Fuck Clowney.
    Even though he went to my state school and he has big talent, he has always seemed too egoid for my tastes.

  35. mf13ss says:

  36. mf13ss says:

    I’m not sure how I feel about possibly trading for Clowney. Part of me is like “HELL YEAH!!!”, the other part of me is like “5 years in the league, and he’s never posted double-digit sacks”.

    What I do know is that Clowney is interested in going to either the Seahawks or Eagles. If we do pull it off, I hope we don’t trade the moon to get him. Build through the Draft, augment via FA.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He wrecks a running game too though. The thing I like about him is he’s a perfect fit for our multiple defense because he can play DE and OLB. Sack totals don’t always tell the whole story.

      • mf13ss says:

        Oh, I hear ya on that, man. He has 67 QB hits over his 5 year career, which is pretty darned good. And yes, he can play LB rather well.

        Clowney is certainly a system-fit for us… I just wonder why he’s not been more prolific. It’s likely injury, which doesn’t make me feel any better about trading for him. We’ll see.

  37. Tim Knight says:

    M13, Clowney’s 1st season was basically non existent with that injury he had. His 2nd season he was still playing through the results of it. Making the pro bowl the next 3 seasons and only missing 4 games during that time is where most of his production comes from. At 26 years old he’s now in his prime and opposing offenses do have to game plan for him. He would make this defense another animal.

  38. olddolphan says:

    TOMORROW AROUND 1:00 pm MRS. OD HAS HER 4TH BACK SURGERY, this time solely on her fractured L-1. Sunday, I’m scheduled for an MRI on my abdomen, looking for more cancer. However, the presence of storm DORIAN in the area may force a cancellation of my test. Thankfully, the flooding in our neighborhood has greatly subsided. So, if Dorian pays us a visit this weekend, I may NOT be fishing in our living room, which is located next to a pond. Needless to say, this has been the toughest summer of my life.
    —————————————
    I fully expect OHIO STATE to take FLORIDA ATLANTIC TO THE CLEANERS on Saturday afternoon in the HORSE SHOE, to the delight of 108,000 Buckeye fans. It will be shown nationwide on FOX in all regions, I am reliably told.
    ————————————–
    I’M BEGINNING to get the feeling that ROSEN will be our starter on opening day vs. the Ravens. I truly hope he doesn’t get killed by our porous and under-talented offensive line. (HOW MANY years have we been saying this???) MY GUESS is that whoever starts the LAST GAME of our regular season is NOT currently on our team. SURE HOPE I’m WRONG on that prediction.

    SORRY I’ve been off the board most of the last several months. I truly hope, and believe, better days are ahead for my family.

    • Tim Knight says:

      OD, wishing you and the Mrs. all the best.

      As for the OL, just remember we have not seen the projected 5 play much together so far. Tunsil has been a healthy scratch in every PS game and Kilgore has played sparingly. I think the coaches have been taking a long look at the depth chart to see who’s the best of the rest of what they have. The OL in the preseason has had some ugly moments for sure, but they’ve also helped us move the ball quite a bit and score some points. I don’t think we know yet where we are on the OL.

    • wyoming85 says:

      Best wish’s for you and Miss OD!

    • stangerx says:

      Hoping the easy time there can be for Mrs. OD.

      • olddolphan says:

        YEP! –Many thanks to Wyoming, Tim, and Young Stanger for all the good wishes.
        And, Jon, I’m STILL ON FOR GAME ONE Vs. the Ravens!!

  39. ocalarob says:

    i’m not holding my breath on clowney, the thing is he may be a one year rental as any team that trades for him will have to use the franchise tag placed on him at 15.9 mil. they can not sign him to a new contract until the new league year. what that means is he could walk in march so what’s his value? i would say very limited.

    • Tim Knight says:

      You franchise him again as you work on a new deal. If you trade for a guy like him you’re willing to get a long term deal done. There’s no way the plan is to just have him play in 2019. That makes no sense.

      • ocalarob says:

        you just can’t keep franchising him as the whole amount hits your cap and it would be a huge amount for his 2nd tag. it would affect your cap.

      • ocalarob says:

        i’m not saying don’t try to pursue him i’m just wondering under those circumstances, what’s his value?

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yes you can and that’s what gives you control for more than one year. His long term contract is going to be more per year than the franchise tag. Just look at what elite edge guys are being paid. Players want the long term deal over the franchise tag.

      • ocalarob says:

        it could be a 2 year rental at a big hit on the cap. it’s not like we are getting a player and signing him to a long term contract with a signing bonus spread out.

        it affects his value

  40. Tim Knight says:

    OD, it’s all about proving it and showing all of us on the field. There is no other way. 😉

    • olddolphan says:

      When it comes to the Dolphins’ O-Line, I’m convinced they do NOT have ENOUGH solid linemen to get the job done during a 16-game season. But I sure hope they prove me wrong. I’d at least like to see JUST ONE MORE PLAYOFF WIN while I’m still here on earth. And DITTO THAT FOR MRS. OD!!!!
      ———–
      OUT FOR TONIGHT!!

      • Tim Knight says:

        We’re not expected to be a contender this year. But the way this team has set things up don’t think this is a 3-4 year rebuild. We could be a contender in 2020 if some of the moves we’ve made and make pan out – Rosen, Clowney and the 2020 FA with lots of cap and a nice stock of draft picks. We’ve all seen it happen. Teams can turn things around in the NFL in 2 years with the right moves.

  41. naplesfan2010 says:

    Good Luck to OD and the Mrs.
    am thinking this whole preseason has been one big decoy
    plus the need to give all these young ones practice time.

  42. ocalarob says:

    sorry to hear tha OD, i hope for the best for her. i have had 4 back surgeries on L-4,L-5, it’s not fun that’s for sure!

  43. naplesfan2010 says:

    I think unless clowney goes to a team he perceives as “a contender” and “worthy” of having him,
    he is just going to take the money and coast through games with minimal effort.
    Maybe if he gets caught up in a Super Bowl drive, he will exert himself,
    but I just don’t see him giving 100% for us

    • ocalarob says:

      he’ll be playing lights out this year because he’s on a franchise tag and is playing for a long term contract, after he gets that long term deal will he coast??? who knows?

      • Tim Knight says:

        Fans and media say this stuff all the time as if players have no pride and goals in their careers. It’s not all guaranteed so if a player coasts he doesn’t get that number everyone barks at.

  44. wyoming85 says:

  45. wyoming85 says:

    ??????????????

  46. wyoming85 says:

  47. mf13ss says:

    Mr. Randy Campbell,

    I offer you and your Mrs. my continued prayers, sir. Hope y’all get some very good news in the near future, what with your health situations. Hang in there, for good things are certainly on the horizon for you both. Stay strong!

  48. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 27, 2019 at 7:45 pm
    M13, Clowney’s 1st season was basically non existent with that injury he had. His 2nd season he was still playing through the results of it. Making the pro bowl the next 3 seasons and only missing 4 games during that time is where most of his production comes from. At 26 years old he’s now in his prime and opposing offenses do have to game plan for him. He would make this defense another animal.
    —————–
    Your glass is ALWAYS half full, Brother! I respect that, but I’m always looking at the best and worst possible scenarios… it’s in my nature.

    So long as we don’t get ripped off in a potential trade for Clowney, I think I’m for it. Just know that Clowney fired his long-time agent Bus Cook, and he prefers to go to either the Seahawks or Eagles. We’ll see what happens.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I know all that and I’ll be fine if we don’t land him. I’m focused on why we’re pursuing him. If all the negatives about him were so strong and true, do you think Grier and Flores are clueless or are they a little closer to all of this than the media and fans are? I get tired of amateurs telling everyone what it is. Not a knock on you, in general. We’re not NFL coaches or personnel people. Social media gives everyone a voice but it doesn’t make any of us pros in the game because we’re not.

      I try to understand the reasoning of why a team tries to acquire a player.

  49. mf13ss says:

    Tim,

    I’d like to ask you… what do you think would be a fair trade to land Clowney? Again, I’m not against trading for Clowney, rather, what is your threshold for a fair trade?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I really have no idea because one of the points made in the MH story is we walked away from the Texans first proposal that included a 2020 1st rd pick. But talks have continued.

      As an amateur lol, I’d say a 2nd rd pick and a player they like. They have an issue with paying him along with Watt, Hopkins and soon Jackson. That’s the unfortunate thing with a cap, you can’t afford a lot of top players if you were fortunate to draft that many top level players. That said, what’s going on in Houston, all that talent and what?

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        watson

      • mf13ss says:

        Yeah, I don’t want to part with a 1st rounder, to be sure… and I’m not sure I want to part with a 2nd rounder, either. I haven’t the answer to make the trade happen, unless the Texans are in love with Kenny Stills and maybe another player of ours… along with a 3rd rounder. JMO

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yes, I just drafted FF last night and all sorts of names are in my mind. LOL

  50. CavalierKong says:

    Tim,

    I don’t think it’s goofy at all. The top DEs are topping out at over 20 mil per yr. Say we get Clowney for a 2nd and a 5th plus a player or two, then we keep him two years, lose him and get a 3rd as compensatory. We got a 2 yr rental of a premier player at less than market value and swapped a 2nd/5th for a 3rd.

    If we really like the player during/after year one, and we seem to be moving in the right direction, then we try to hammer out that deal to make it long term. If for whatever reason it doesn’t work, then we aren’t hampered by a long term contract a la Suh and others.

    Will it all play out like that? IDK. It seems to me he wants to play for a contender right now which may rule us out. We’ll see what kind of pull Flores’ meeting had. But I don’t think it sounds like a crazy, never happen scenario.

  51. wyoming85 says:

    So!
    If Flores is OK with Clowney’s attitude?
    Grier is good with the money?

    Why would you not want Clowney?

    Asking for a friend??????????????????

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      lol tell your friend Clowney is worth 2-3 Ws we wouldn’t have in 2019, maybe more if harris does not break out and Carradine mushes along as he has been.

      PS: I know you r friend knows this and just doesn’t want to drink the purple drank.

  52. steveccnv says:

    Haven’t any if these guys heard of a conditional draft pick🤔

    You give Houston compensation now that’s fair for both teams as if we have him for 2 years, then conditional pick(s), if we sign him long term.

  53. wyoming85 says:

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I just love this new coach. You see the look he gave that asshat?
      I mean that Brian Flpres is a real man right there.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He had to tell people not to park in handicap spots?

    • Tim Knight says:

      He’s a no nonsense guy. Not a great public orator but his football vision is pretty clear. It’s the Pats/Belichick motto of “do your job.”

      He learned under it in NE for 14 years in multiple phases. How do you not get something out of that? It’s like asking someone if they like being a Motar. LOL

  54. Tim Knight says:

    M13, we have two 2nd rd picks in 2020. You don’t get players like Clowney for kibbles and bits. LOL

    Our team is courting him for sure so as fans we need to take it at face value and put our own GM hats down. We’re negotiating.

    • mf13ss says:

      I’m just sayin’… if we don’t have our franchise QB on the roster right now (we’ll see), we’ll need all the firepower we have to move up in the 2020 Draft.

      As such, I’m not sure I want to part with any future Draft picks at this time. That just me, though.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think it’s time to think of Rosen as our potential franchise QB just like everyone else does from last year’s draft of all the QBs. The ARZ/Murray thing we all know about. Josh has been put through a ringer and like Aaron Rodgers fell in the 2005 draft I see a chip on the shoulder the same way with Rosen. Let it play out, we have him on the cheap for the next 3-4 years.

  55. CavalierKong says:

    Tim,
    Why only Super Bowl, why not playoffs? Is it crazy to think we might make the playoffs next year?

    Frankly, I’m glad we don’t have the opportunity to sign him to a giant contract right off the bat. We have been burned by these things multiple times in the last decade.

    • CavalierKong says:

      It’s cool, we see it different. I just don’t see anything wrong with getting a premier edge defender for under market value knowing it may only be for a couple of years.

  56. naplesfan2010 says:

    Remember the Suh contract?
    we are still in cap pain because of that.
    Don’t do it again.
    clowney is the same kind of guy as Suh.
    They play their position and have enormous talent,
    but they are not team guys, and they do not take their team to greater heights.

    We should NOT trade draft picks for a guy like Suh or Clowney
    and we should NOT be the fools who give guys like that $100M contracts
    and end up suffering for years.

    Now if we want him for 2 yrs, fine.
    So trade guys we don’t want or need such as Stills and Parker and Walton and Alonso, then fine and we pay the FT money to Clowney for a year so he plays hard to get the big bucks and then we let someone else play the fool like we did for Suh.

  57. wyoming85 says:

    • CavalierKong says:

      He’ll end up signing the tender and playing for the Texans. Texans will have a solid year and win the division, then lose 48-6 to the Patriots in the divisional round of the playoffs, LOL.

  58. steveccnv says:

    Clowney at RDE teaming up with Baker coming up the middle could be pretty good. What I like about Clowney is he doesn’t fly by the end leaving a gaping running lane, he goes through the LT.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Been thinking that too. Baker as a Joker – will he rush or drop from all angles? He has shown great instincts in all phases this offseason. I think we found a gem – you know one of those quick and fast 3-down LBs. Enjoy it! 🙂

  59. steveccnv says:

    The military won’t take you unless your IQ is at least 75. Anyone know, besides athletes, what kind of work you can do?

    Sports writer, these guys have to be the dumbest people on the planet, take Omar for example…

  60. sb7mvp says:

    Unless you fleece the Texans in a trade, you dont make a move on a guy like Clowney to rent him for 2 years on a rebuilding team. It makes absolutely zero sense. Oh, we got a 3rd round comp pick several years later??? Yeah, that makes all the difference. Lol. Keep our draft picks, grow our salary cap, stay the course and build through the draft. Moves like these are why we are finding new coaches every several years.

    • steveccnv says:

      No one is talking about renting him for 2 years, it would be a 2 year trial, if we had done that with Suh, he would’ve been gone after 2 years, saving us well over $40M.

  61. pheloniusphish says:

    Slow news morning.

  62. ocalarob says:

    our defense looks to be a whole lot better than last years D, they are swarming to the ball! can’t wait for the season opener against the Ravens, that should tell us where this team is really at.

  63. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

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