Offensive Line – Current depth chart and needs

Many of us here believe this position will be a major focal point in both Free Agency and in the draft. Of course, the former will determine the latter. How much we’re able to accomplish in Free Agency on the O-line will then dictate how much we need to do in the draft. I’m pretty sure we’re going to try and get at least one starter, maybe 2 in FA. Let’s take a look at what we have now and I’ll outline where we need to improve.

LT – Julien Davenport / J’Marcus Webb

I think both of those players would better serve the team as depth players and not as starters. I’d feel comfortable with either of them in a backup role but I don’t want to start 2020 with either of them manning the LT spot. Both are journeyman type players who can fill in as the starter but neither are guys you build around or with.

LG – Michael Deiter / Evan Brown

I think Deiter has potential to be a bonafide starter in the NFL. I don’t think he’s quite there yet and he needs to work hard in the weight room and increase his strength and balance. It may be one position we don’t go strong with in either FA or the draft. In any case, we need to improve the depth there and that can be taken care of either way. Evan Brown is a backup interior guy both at G/C. He will need to fight for a spot on the roster next season.

C – Dan Kilgore / Keaton Sutherland

Kilgore was a valuable leader in 2019 but I believe we will be looking for a young center to replace Kilgore, or at the very least give him strong competition for next season. I think ideally we’d like to grow a young line together and a young stud center who will make the line calls for a decade or so is a good place to start. I think we’re going to handle this position in the draft and likely in RD1.

RG – Evan Boehm / Shaq Calhoun

I like the toughness Boehm brought with him to Miami but I’m not sure if he’s got the skillset to hold down his position. I won’t be surprised in the least if we look for an upgrade in free agency and then possibly add more depth in the draft. Shaq Calhoun looked overmatched in some action this season. He may need more work or at best he may be a depth player.

RT – Jesse Davis

So this is really the wild card. As so many prognosticators have us choosing QB Tua Tagovaiola, then our RT in essence becomes the proverbial LT. Jesse Davis has made a lot of strides, he really has, but if we make the investment at #5 on Tua you bet your ass we’re going to be looking to protect that investment. While Jesse Davis has improved, no one would be calling him an elite tackle. He’s serviceable, but this is a spot we’re going to have to take seriously if we do indeed draft Tua. If we don’t take Tua, Jesse Davis is probably our starting RT next season and we’ll need some depth there.

In Free Agency, one of the top interior linemen available is Brandon Scherff. Scherff was the #5 pick in the 2015 NFL Draft by the Washington Redskins. He’s played mostly RG in his 5 seasons with the Skins. He just turned 28 so a good age for a rebuild. RT Jack Conklin is another top player available. I’ll be surprised if TEN lets him go, they traded up to get Conklin at #8 in the 2016 NFL Draft, the same draft that Laremy Tunsil fell to us. Both of these players will be getting premium salaries but the good news is we can absorb that easily. We have the money and we need to spend some anyway and either player would be a huge upgrade for us. Both players have legit skillsets and both of them bring plenty o nasty!

In the draft, Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Willis, Tristan Wirfs, Austin Jackson and Mekhi Bectin head up the OT’s although there are some who believe Wirfs may benefit moving inside. Tyler Biadasz, Cesar Ruiz, and Lloyd Cushenberry head up the centers. We should have a shot at some of the top players even if we take a QB at #5 because we’ll have the #18 and #26 picks too. Plus we have two 2nd RD picks as well #39 and #56, where we can land a solid interior lineman. We’re in a good place, we just have to take care of business!

Next week I’m going to look at the defensive line.



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509 Responses to Offensive Line – Current depth chart and needs

  1. wyoming85 says:

  2. The Flying Pig says:

    I just posted a long ass political post and was killed by the page turn
    I guess some things aren’t meant to be – and maybe its best that we leave the politics on the last page.

    As an annoying NYer I guess I will just have to say “Fuggedaboutit”!

    • D says:

      I read it. Im not as concerned with the not standing, i dont expect them to clap for things they dont agree with but the fact the state of the economy is better should be a happy point for anyone. I also agree with you, his way of expressing himself is not the best, but dont we learn when we are children to be the better person.

      Who cares if he is up there being brash, keep yourself under control, but to tune him out, to show a posture that sayd “i dont give a fuck about what your saying” ie the playing on the phones, and talking while he is speaking shows that they are no better than him. It is posturing, and panderng because its not only trying to make a scene but its to get attention of others who agree with you, its doing it for the purpose of galvanizing politically. Like you said its an adversarial showing of us vs them.

      They arent listening to him, and if you want to change things, you need to listen, learn, and improve. You need to listen, and see if there is something you can gain from that speech, even if its a counter point you can make. You should show respect to the speaker even if you dont agree. As kids did we not get in trouble when we did such things? So while the sitting or standing might not seem like a big deal, to me it is because it shows you are already closed off to what that person was saying, and a closed off person isnt progressive, they arent looking for change, they only care about what they believe.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        “His way of expressing himself is not the best” is a bit of an understatement don’t you think.

      • steveccnv says:

        His way of expressing himself is an FU to political correctness, which is by design. PC is an FU to freedom of speech.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Exactly Steve

        That’s why when he gets an FU back, no one should be clutching their pearls

    • stangerx says:

      Was a great take and agree with you just about all of it. Anyone who thinks Trump was getting disrespected by the Dems not standing at times is kidding themselves. Way it works. Believe when he brought up infrastructure there was standing….. way it works.

  3. wyoming85 says:

  4. D says:

    he Flying Pig says:
    February 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    “His way of expressing himself is not the best” is a bit of an understatement don’t you think.
    Yeah, probably. Both sides are acting like spoiled children, not good representatives of the people of this country.

    • stangerx says:

      There are both sides and then there is Trump. He’s a sitting Pres with a good economy with a favorable rating in the low to mid 40’s. Only reason is who he is and how he acts.

  5. stangerx says:

    Long as we are going politics — Mayor Pete has mad skills. He’s like the candidate you want to run delivered straight from the factory . Except he came gay……. and 100% his choice but with some a problem.

    • steveccnv says:

      He may have mad skills, don’t know and don’t care, it’s his policies that are horrible.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Yah, don’t care about his skills or his gayness. Don’t like his policies.

      • stangerx says:

        steveccnv — if you don’t like his policies then assume any Dem is a no go for you. And that’s cool….. all part of how democracy is supposed to work.

  6. pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy you are not a NYer. You are a transplanted Cuban from Miami.. Florida’s revenge for all the NYers who moved to Florida.

  7. pheloniusphish says:

    Also don’t care about whether the Dems stand or clap. Pelosi’s temper tantrum was awesome…for Trump. Just don’t like the dems’ policies, especially the socialists. Socialists are the antithesis of Americans.

    • D says:

      I dislike it simply because i think its childish and rude. Some of the time i have learned the most was listening to a person i didnt want to listen to. In order to be open minded you have to listen to both sides.

      • TryPod says:

        Open-minded? What’s that? I look at everything through the prism of whether it’s liberal or conservative and judge it from there. Everything. Because that’s what’s important- how it can be labeled and then categorized. Doesn’t everybody? 😏
        The only thing I thought about the pelosi thing was he acted small by refusing to shake hands, she acted small by tearing up the speech. Tit-for-tat. And that’s what’s got me really turned off about our political landscape right now. I liked the Reagan-O’Neill method.

  8. D says:

    stangerx says:
    February 6, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    Long as we are going politics — Mayor Pete has mad skills. He’s like the candidate you want to run delivered straight from the factory . Except he came gay……. and 100% his choice but with some a problem.
    One thing ill say is, when it doesnt get him votes or keep him from getting votes, then we are evolved.

    I personally have no dog in that fight, but i think he is better than the other dem candidates.

    • stangerx says:

      Was just saying he is good as a candidate. Had nothing to do with policy. He’d have a better chance if straight and older….. but those are pretty hard to change.

    • D says:

      Edwards-Helaire and Ruiz are two prospects i think really highly of and yet they seemingly were flying pretty significantly under the radar. I try not to stir up things about players like this because i really want them to stay under the radar lol. The rest on their list i have heard their names but havent put any effort into looking at.

  9. naplesfan2010 says:

    I like Edwards-Helaire if we have a speed back to pair him with (Thunder and Lightning is a good way to go.) because he is really too slow downfield. He can be caught. But he has really good vision and is a very tough, tackle-breaking runner.

    I would much rather have DeAndre Swift, Jonathan Taylor, or Dobbins, in that order or whoever is fastest of the 3 at the combine.

  10. naplesfan2010 says:

    Bleacher Reort has us taking Tua, and then Curtis Weaver out of Boise State @ 18 followed by Swift @ 26, which I think is fine if they think Weaver can step up to NFL level and be highly producitve. I am not sure Swift falls to 26 either.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Wow they updated their picks while I was checking them out.
      They now have us taking Josh Jones a very young but very agile OT from Houston, which I like better than the DE from Boise.
      Also they have Grant Delpit the LSU Safety going to us in the top of the 2nd, which I would love.
      With our other 2nd they have us taking a guy I know nothing about: a DL from Texas A&M named Justin Madubuike, who seems to have great skills but an iffy motor.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        Then they have us getting our edge rusher in the 3rd from Michigan, Josh Uche.
        He is too light for my taste, and I would worry about him being another Harris/bust, but if he can be coached up then
        This would be an excellent haul of talent at all of our most pressing needs.

        I’d rather have the OG Bredeson, but maybe he will be there for us at 90.

  11. Rockphin says:

    Man, flipping channels and stopped on BBC news they are showing the Chinese cities where the virus has been detected and its insane seeing the streets totally deserted in the middle of the day. where MILLIONS (way more than NYC) churning in ordered chaos is the norm. Imagine GCT completely empty at 1pm eerie

    It doesn’t seem to be more than the flu really, but that is coming from someone who as always been healthy and been able to fight off the flu. (never gotten a flu shot) I understand a lot of people die every year from the flu. I keep hearing words like pandemic.

    It is amazing how quickly these things can spread in today’s world where I can be in 6 countries in a day.

  12. Rockphin says:

    RE the conversation above about Mayor Pete. My opinion is that he is sharp, seems to think quickly and has good demeanor. He is well spoken. I don’t think he is a good choice, only because he is gay. I think the bigotry is still too deep rooted. I grew up with gay and lesbian relatives and friend of family so it doesn’t bother me, but I see the reactions around me enough to understand that it would be too much of a hurtle for him. The others are way too old. Fuck man, I’m 50 and they look old and feeble to me.

  13. Rockphin says:

    It is freaking terrifying actually that a virus that was unknown to mankind, perhaps had never before infected a human has done so and now has infected more than 30,000 people in less than a couple of months. most of those in the past few days.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Also terrifying that you can probably multiply that number by 10, given the way the Chinese control information. Read one account that said people were dying in their homes and no one was recovering their bodies. Right out of a sci-fi horror flick.

      • Rockphin says:

        Yeah, I saw a “Secret video” the other day of a woman saying that they are not counting the people who are diing in the countryside because the are too far from the centers for them to be tested why they died. “Old age” “Illness”

  14. Rockphin says:

    I’m sorry, what did you say Mrs. President? Wow, I’m sorry one more time? I don’t know why I can’t focus.

  15. The Flying Pig says:

    heloniusphish says:
    February 6, 2020 at 2:49 pm (Edit)
    Piggy you are not a NYer. You are a transplanted Cuban from Miami.. Florida’s revenge for all the NYers who moved to Florida.

    That’s fairly vanilla for ny

  16. The Flying Pig says:

    Tulsi is a lot farther to the left than Mayor Peter or Biden or Klobacher if you ask me

    She’s not moderate

    She’s a little crazy honestly

  17. Rockphin says:

    Piggy, I retract my post and apologize for spreading Russian propaganda I just double searched and the image I posted came from Veteranstoday . com which is a russian back propaganda sight

  18. stangerx says:

    Coronavirus is scary stuff. Remember the bird flu? Right during the craze on it on the news….. wife wakes up with 103.5 fever. Call up the doc’s office and we are met special at the door by two folks in masks and escorted to a room (lots of other people in the waiting room). Masked doc eventually comes in and talks to us from the far end of the room and after 5 minutes pulls the mask down and goes “you have the regular flu.”

    Before we left had filled every pot, bowl and pan we had with food and water for the dogs. Cause if she had it I wasn’t coming back either for a good long while. So yeah feeling for those folks in Wuhan.

  19. pheloniusphish says:

    Gabbard is a little whacky, but no further left than Mayor Pete. Biden is just a vote whore who will say anything for support.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      She’s to the left of both of them Phish IMO

      If you look at an issue like health care she supports single payer system while Biden and Mayor Pete do not. I don’t think healthcare should be treated as simply as right or left, but her view is tradiotnally more left than theirs

      Her voting record targets wall street and advocates for a lot of banking regulation that those two don’t want

      Although she was in the military a lot of her rhetoric is very anti-military spending. I know she appears on Fox a lot, and she agrees with people like Tucker Carlson on the US taking a lesser role across the globe, but those sort of nationalism based policies have strong roots in both parties (Bernie favors this approach too)

      She actually left her position in the DNC to endorse Bernie Sanders in 2016. Yes she hates Clinton, but she loves Bernie, and that’s bc she thinks Clinton is the “establishment” – which is kind of a lefty point of view

      She dabbles in libertarian views in things like civil liberties by accusing govt agencies of spying an overreaching, but that’s another area that I think both sides dabble in. If you ever hear her speak on the subject she sounds like Michael Moore and that’s pretty far left.

      Albeit I mention many of these issues, truth be told, nothing she has ever said or stood for sounds really well developed to me. She speaks in generalizations with platitudes about the establishment. It seems like a lot of finger pointing without any real ideas that have any meat on them. That’s why I call her whacky. She kind of sounds like a schizophrenic to me.

      On a superficial level, she reminds me of a robot.
      I don’t know why you guys think she’s hot, she’s pretty but I get cold inhuman vibe from her

      To be fair. I don’t really like any of the candidates or the current president, and I can probably list a bunch of negatives on each.

      I think I’m going to have to start my own country – Pork Nation anyone?

    • Philip Bijeau says:

      Amen, bro!

    • The Flying Pig says:

      That’s incredible!

      What an asshole! You can tell early in his career that this guy and his mother are going to tell everyone else how to do their jobs for his benefit

    • Tim Knight says:

      Wow! Seriously Minkah?

    • stangerx says:

      ” You know what I’m saying? I wanted to continue to have that impact on my team and have that impact on games. Because it’s no fun when you’re in a critical moment and you can’t do nothing about it. When you move around and you’re a moving piece on the chessboard, it’s hard to defend and you can’t just say, ‘All right, the quarterback is going to look at me and say he’s going to be in this spot every snap,’ like I was last year. It’s going to be harder and it’s going to be more difficult to take me out of the game.”

      — maybe Minkah’s Mom changed her mind.

  20. wyoming85 says:

    Finally some real news!

  21. Mike E. says:

    Tim – it’s not Minkah, it’s MFFF!

  22. bailbondmike says:

    Some draft info. Player vs player evaluations. After reading what he says about Jaylon Johnson over Kristian Fulton, it kind of made sense to me as I remember Fulton getting schooled once or twice that game. Don’t really agree that Swift is barely above Edwards-Hellaire as RB1 but do agree that Edwards-Hellaire is a better 3 down back than Dobbins and Taylor. Dobbins has butterfingers.

    • D says:

      I think Edwards-Helaire is like the V8 Charger GT, but Swift is the 707 Hellcat

    • Tim Knight says:

      I like Edwards-Hellaire as a rotation back. I think Swift can be a team’s #1.

      • D says:

        Edwards-Hellaire can be a #1, and a 3 down back. I dont think they differ in that respects, one just is a more dynamic players, with superstar potential and the other is a more blue collar player who can reach the same heights but he just has to work harder to get there.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I guess in some offenses Edwards-Hellaire can be a #1. But I don’t see him as a 20 touch guy. I like both backs. Imagine if we landed both. 😉

      • bailbondmike says:

        Like he said, I think the biggest difference is Swift has the homerun threat/speed.

    • D says:

      Dantzler i like a lot, and what he did he did without the help of having a great supporting staff in the secondary at MSU. He is a semi underrated player i think we could get in the second, possibly late second, that would be a nice piece on our team, opposite X .

  23. D says:

    XFL teams have some decently talented guys on there.

    • D says:

      Anyone know the rules about players who play on the XFL teams, are they allowed to try out for NFL teams during the NFL season?

      • D says:

        Im seeing a lot of players that im kinda shocked would be giving up on the NFL at this point. Some seemed to be resurrecting a career, or still really early in a career to be giving up on their chances in the NFL.

  24. Tim Knight says:

    I can’t get into other football leagues. The NFL and college is enough for me.

  25. Mike E. says:


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