I don’t think there’s a position on this team with as much uncertainty. We have the veteran, last year’s rushing leader, and consummate professional in Ryan Fitzpatrick. He’s the savvy guy who was able to show impressive escapability when the blocking wasn’t up to snuff. This was something 2nd year QB (at the time) Josh Rosen couldn’t muster. Rosen was stymied by the constant pressure and although his arm strength looked as good as many NFL QB’s, his ability to understand what he saw out on the field in opposing defenses was lacking. To be fair, he was in 2 pretty poor situations, first in a woeful offense in Arizona under one and done HC Steve Wilks, and then here with the Dolphins in the midst of a team rebuild. We traded away our best OT (Laremy Tunsil) for 2 first RD picks from the Texans, but that didn’t help our QB’s in 2019. The odd thing for me was that Rosen was considered one of the most NFL ready QB’s from the 2018 Draft yet he was still having trouble identifying the “Mike” on the defensive side of the ball.
Ryan Fitzpatrick won the confidence of his teammates and DeVante Parker ended up emerging as a legitimate top level WR. Before Parker and Fitzgerald went on their torrential run from game 8 on, rookie Preston Williams was his favorite target and the rookie was having a very nice rookie season. He is clearly a leader of men, and by the end of the season Fitzgerald made it clear he wanted to return here and be the starter. The Miami Dolphins on the other hand had to look to the future, both the distant future and immediate future and drafted Tua Tagovailoa at #5. This had been discussed and predicted for so long to me it almost became a foregone conclusion. So now that leaves us with a wily veteran who has put together 2 pretty good seasons in a row with Tampa Bay and now our Dolphins. We have a young veteran QB who has endured 2 difficult seasons and it shouldn’t be discounted that many scouts questioned his desire and love for football in the first place in Josh Rosen. Then add in what I will have to consider our best QB prospect in many years, 1983 to be exact in Tua Tagovailoa.
There are a couple of wild cards that will have their play here. One of them is COVID-19 which unfortunately is running wild in Florida at the time of this writing. Nearly 10,000 new cases have devastated FLA since fully reopening. The other wild card is the actual physical health of Tua Tagovailoa. If he really is completely healed and ready to go will the Dolphins be able to keep him off the field? The COVID-19 wild card works 2 ways here. One, it may make opening camp here in FLA impossible and force a relocation if it doesn’t quiet down. It also may force the NFL to push back team activities although they are loathe to do that. They desperately want to start on time and it seems the only real concessions the NFL is going to make is lopping off a couple of preseason games. Let’s just say that they move the team to a facility that keeps them away from the general public and COVID-19 is not a factor. It will be interesting to see how things proceed. The Dolphins made it clear that they would prefer to start Fitzpatrick and he earned that right. On the other hand, if Tua truly is right physically and starts lighting things up, it will become increasingly more difficult for the Dolphins not to let their new potential star take the QB reins.
What about Josh Rosen, who has to be the most overlooked QB on the roster. Most people think he’s in danger of being cut unless the Dolphins decide to keep 3 QB’s. Last season the Dolphins carried only 2. This year, the gameday roster will increase to 48 from 46 but one of those must be an OL. It’s possible this increase could affect the decision to carry 3 QB’s, but I believe if Tua is healed that would be unnecessary. I think the one thing that Josh Rosen has in his favor is his age and inexpensive rookie contract. Ryan Fitzpatrick will turn 38 this season and Josh Rosen is 23. Keep in mind Ryan Fitzpatrick wasn’t always a starting QB, he didn’t start until he was traded to the Cincinnati Bengals after his 3rd season and then he was traded again to our rival Buffalo Bills the next season. Josh Rosen is in a similar flight pattern to Fitzgerald and maybe he finds his footing at some point. It may just come down to desire with him because he has the physical tools of an NFL QB, one with a better than average NFL arm. He has to show something this season or his career as a Miami Dolphin will likely be over.
GO DOLPHINS!!!
#staythecourse
#avoidthecovid
Finsmob Unleashed 
This is how I feel about all the violence and vandalism going on in this country.
RIP you fiddlin fool!
I can’t post 😷
LOL
Maybe I can.
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ONE DAY about 12-14 days ago I just showed up at work wearing a mask. I was the ONLY ONE in the building who wore one. I didn’t try to convince ANYONE ELSE to wear one. When a newer employee asked me why I wore one, I told him about my history of cancer, my asthma attacks (which I got from being raised in a family of smokers, even tho’ I NEVER smoked any tobacco or weed) and some other factors that do NOT bode well for my survival, and he nodded his head then walked away.
Next day 2 more employees, a late-20’s girl who is hoping to successfully deliver a baby (after a miscarriage last year) and her husband both donned masks. She is 6 months along. Two other employees, both in their 30’s, donned masks the next day after two teenagers died of Covid-19 in local hospitals.
Then, after back-to-back days of record Corona Virus numbers in Florida, the big boss put a large
“Masks Required” Sign on the main entrance to our first floor entrance (we’re in a 2-story building and do most of our work on the second floor. I thought TRUMP would have a sex-change operation before my boss wore a mask. Well, I was WRONG!!
SO NOW every employee was provided a mask, a can of disinfectant spray, and a large sign which said they MUST wear a mask when NOT seated at their desks (which are all over 6 feet apart from each other.) However, nearly all of us stay masked even if we’re at our desks.
On some issues, gentle persuasion works much better than screaming & cussing. And, this may have happened at just the right time. As of right now, Pasco County has only 4-5 beds left, total, in all their combined hospitals. They expect those to be occupied before midnight. Meanwhile, Hillsborough County (Greater Tampa) reports over 95% occupancy of their ICU beds. They have asked Governor DeSantis to create a temporary site that could hold 150-200 extra ICU beds for the millions of potential Covid victims in the the Tampa-St. Petersburg area. But the governor has failed to respond to that request, citing the line that “Things are getting better,” despite the rising numbers.
That makes me very sad.
Mike E and family cover this very well 😎👍
He sent me audio of that and I agree.
Paula Cole sings the shit out of this song
Holy shit she can sing !! 🥃🥃
That’s awesome!
And then there is this.
This is cool. I’m gonna learn it.🎸🎼😎👍🥃🥃
Shit…
Yes learn it
Here’s the best version of it
Yes that is cool but I’m a dog with one guitar 🐕🎸🎼🎼
For Son and anyone that digs Robert Joh son. They kill this 👍
Johnson ^^^^^^^^
Thanks that was really cool
Nice!! Love this!!
Doggy – That was just me singing with the Karaoke track of Comfortably Numb. I was kidding about the fam doing the backup vocals. 🙂
Well fuck man.. That’s not what you told me 😆 faker faker Susie home baker. 👉👌
Same concert as above
THANKS, GUYS!! Those great songs picked me up!!
NOW, if we could just get our governor to listen to them!!
I hope all you folks in NY & NJ are safe from the tropical storm.
Talk to Y’all tomorrow.–The OLD DOLFAN IS OUT!!
It’s not so bad in the NE, just a lot of rain and wind off and on. Nothing we haven’t dealt with before. There have been so many warm summer days you know you’re getting rain at some point. Hope all is well!
Doggy, here’s a good strummer for you and Mrs Toba singing
I think every time the high notes she hits, I will just kick you in the nuts and Let you pull that off 😆 And I put a coma in there. 🐕🥃🥃
Lol
Well having three of my favorite guitarist playing a great song 🐕🎸🥃🥃🎼🎼
This era makes me sad. Jimmy was just getting back in public after the end of Led Zeppelin due to Bonzo’s death, and clearly not ready to be what he once was. You can see Eric and Jeff clearly looking out for him and letting him get it out. But that’s what friends do. How crazy is it that these three were teenage friends and they became who they are? LOL
Who all is in that? Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman, Ray Cooper, Page, Beck, Simon Phillips, Joe Cocker, Paul Rogers…?
Doctors say Goody Tua Shoes will be ready for camp and that his right (injured hip) is stronger than his left hip.
Should he break the left one then?
Why? So he can spend the next 9 months rehabbing?
And Mike E was here as a backup singer . 😆
Wyo,
Thanks for Woolley Swamp, that was awesome!!
I like your taste in music
Thanks
I was in a Patsy Cline mood last night! 🙂
Was just looking at the class of RB’s next year and its a pretty stacked group. No need to add more to the roster. this group is good until we loop around to draft next year.
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D, you are right, sir. Many good 3 down backs and receiving backs as well. My fav may be Kylin Hill where ever/if he ends up playing this season.
CK out the lead guitarist solo, RIP Terry Kath
He was great and the band was never the same after he was gone.
And this song clearly isn’t about you, lol jbb
i posted the wrong song was trying to post 25 or 6 to go, thats where he kills the lead
25 or 6 to 4
SON-OF-A-SON; I JUST finished replaying Peter Gabriel and Paula Cole’s rendition of “Don’t Give Up” that you so graciously put on this site last night. IT WAS SUPER AWESOME!! Everyone should start their day with this kind of song.
MRS. OD and I thank you!
Thanks OD, glad you fine folks enjoyed it.
Hope we get to see you soon buddy.
Think know more about Bill about this stuff. BLM didn’t have 501(3)(c) charitable status so became a “supporting organization” of a place that did….. which made donations tax deductible. Same way place I used to work does it. How the money is used…. well that I have no clue about.
“The Tua that I’ve seen at Alabama since him stepping onto the scene has been wonderful. He stood, he delivered. He’s exceeded expectations. He’s taken them where they wanted to go, and then farther.”
“Yeah, he sustained an injury trying to make a darn play. He’s not injury prone. This guy is a flat-out winner. He’s smart. He’s professional. He’s articulate. He’s going to say the right things. He’s going to enhance the organization. He’s going to stand up in the press conference and say and speak the truth. He’s going to praise the Lord. I love everything about this kid. I think he’s going to be a phenomenal success in Miami.”
—- Seems Deion Sanders has a mancrush
I’ve always put a lot of stock in what Deion has to say about football related talk.
Just in case you were wondering why Trump doesn’t wear a mask🤔
That’s 10 minutes dude…. too long for me. Would be nice if Trump wore a mask every now and then though. A lot of his folks follow his lead.
Steveccnv, you know there’s not going to be football season. Wearing a mask and having any kind of leadership from the top MIGHT have changed all this.
It seems to me we are in deja vu land….is it March and April again?
And please remember, herd immunity works just fine for me. Perhaps the ODs of the world would object to this approach and I understand that.
The only way through as I see it at this point is very Darwinian. Thanks DJT.
You leave out what I am counting on…. a vaccine. We’re a long way from herd immunity .
Good luck.
Here’s a strategy “floated” by a pandemic expert (I will get his name, so sorry, he’s a Dutch dude if I’m corect) who consults/ed with NY and its regional approach.
Testing, tracing, and isolation gives you a baseline and a fighting chance. Look around the world. Magical thinking doesn’t work in this case. Hmmm, the virus doesn’t give a shit about your politics, but it can succumb to a plan, strategy, and fucking effort to get it right.
Another way out besides the Darwin approach. Just a thought.
Leadership is another way out, too.
^correct
Dr. Michael Osterholm, Dir. Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy.
Trivia question: which well known person played guitar on Joe Cocker’s “With a Little Help from My Friends” and other songs on that album? Don’t cheat and look it up. 😉
Your bestest pal Jimmy
Steve Winwood played on a couple of tracks on that album too.
🙂
Hell yeah! Was that Sam Darnold on the paddle board? LOL
ARE THE INMATES running the asylum? You be the judge.
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A STATEWIDE OPINION POLL taken in Florida by three college professors at the University of Miami came up with some interesting results. 1,039 Floridians were asked about their attitudes on taking a Covid-19 vaccine. 43% believed taking the vaccine should be made mandatory, 33% disagreed. I’m guessing the remaining 24% were unsure, but that’s just my guess.
The poll authors also reported that 20% of Floridians are unwilling to take the vaccine if it were to become available. And, 20% believe that the Corona virus is being used to force a dangerous and UNNECESSARY vaccine on Americans. A 20% non-compliance rate tells me that we will NOT be able to terminate this deadly disease, but, again, that’s just my guess and is not discussed by the authors of this poll.
These numbers reminnd me of a poll of voters taken in the late 1960’s regarding the Income Tax. About 1/4 of respondents said they should not or WOULD NOT pay any income taxes. The government’s reaction was, and remains, that, under pain of incarceration in a federal facility, citizens MUST pay their taxes whether they want to or not. And the feds will vigorously prosecute those who refuse to pay.
I HOPE citizens will understand that NOT taking the vaccine will needlessly condemn many tens of thousands of good citizens to death, and it will condemn millions to catching this disease needlessly. But if appeals to common sense don’t work, other measures most likely will be instituted.
DON”T SAY I DIDN’T WARN YOU.
We don’t even know if they will have one yet, and your hollering about “never Vaccors”??
Vaccines are fine!
But I don’t think I’m ready for Gate’s tracking yet!
WYOMING: Perhaps you mis-read my personal opinion. I favor VOLUNTARY COOPERATION. But I’m warning those who refuse to take the vaccine (and that assumes there WILL BE a vaccine), that the government most likely will take other measures to encourage compliance.
Clowney to Patsies being bandied about now.
Wouldn’t come here for close to what his market was (was being the key word), but will go to patsies for a Cam like deal.
I’m not a genius but 15 million is a hell of a lot more millions than one or two.
Is perceived better chance at winning worth 12-14 million dollars? Maybe he just seriously fucked himself, I’d go with that.
Don’t care. This new and young OL will have to face good players along the way. Phase II is on but different. lol
PSA –
When wearing a mask don’t forget you are wearing a mask and spit. It’s gross trust me. What a mess ugg.
SON; My mother taught me NOT to spit. And it was NOT a request, if you catch my drift. Also, my mom, who taught me how to play baseball, NEVER FAILED to rip into those “unsanitary spitters in baseball.” She’d turn to me and say “There’s a very good reason why they outlawed the spitball in baseball. These guys who spit all over their own dugouts need to get a clue!”
I learned at a very early age NEVER to argue with mom on issues like this. My dad, a World War 2 gunny sergeant, NEVER SPIT if there was a chance mom would see it or hear it. They only time I saw him spit was on Lake Erie when we went fishing in the early 1950’s. “Can’t do that when we get back on land,” he’d say.
New US record baby….. FLA #1.
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“Florida reported a record increase of more than 15,000 new cases of COVID-19 in a single day on Sunday as the growing outbreak forces state authorities to close some businesses and beaches. If Florida were a country, it would rank fourth in the world for the most new cases a day behind the United States, Brazil and India.”
Thanks Young Stanger for the info. It makes me want to cough & spit. Lucky for me, Mom’s not around to dispense harsh punishment!
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Seriously, did you see the age group MOST IMPACTED NOW IN FLORIDA is the 25-34 age group?? Number 2 is the 35-44 age group and number 3 is the 15-24 age group. Maybe more of these “KIDS” will start wearing masks and practice social distancing.
They opened the bars and the kids went to the bars. Who could’ve seen that one coming? Read yesterday about a 30-year-old guy who died after going to a “Covid party.” One of his friends tested positive so they held a part to see who would get it too. Well he did.
YES, YOUNG STANGER, these kids are now the NUMBER ONE SPREADERS CORONO VIRUS in Florida.
WHAT A BUNCH OF STUPID ASSHOLES!!!
Serves me right for ranking on how when they opened the bars the young kids filled them. At the same time they opened the nail places…… and there was my wife. Woman who did her nails tested positive. Wife’s getting tested on Wednesday, but based on the time line hoping was before the nail woman got it.
Praying she’s fine Stanger.
In the mean time, you my friend are going to have to find your inner Frank Burns and take care of those nails yourself. You might like it 🤷♂️
LOL — love the MASH reference. Still watching it to this day. One where I can close my eyes as try to go to sleep and still know what is going on.
And we’ll see — FL is running like a 30% positivity rate or something and this is one with no symptoms…. so chance should be even less.
MRS. OD & I concur with Son’s comments. Our best to your wife!!
How about me OD? If she has it so do I. 🙂
But same time that suggests neither of us do….. no symptoms.
IT WAS Governor De Santis and his allies who decided to “open-up Florida” just as the Covid infection rate was rising on the road to a RECORD LEVEL OF INFECTIONS. NOW that we are at record levels, De Santis an his pals want us to OPEN UP THE SCHOOLS NEXT MONTH and let the kids and their teachers face totally unacceptable chances of infection and possible death. Wouldn’t it be better to wait until the infection rate is significantly lower?? Wouldn’t it be better to wait until we actually have an ample number of available ICU beds available to treat those who doubtless will need them?? Right now, there are ZERO ICU BEDS available in my home county. And about 80-90 per cent of the regular beds are occupied. Most locals believe virus levels will get WORSE BEFORE THEY GET BETTER.
In my humble opinion, De Santis could NOT have picked a worse time to OPEN UP THE SCHOOLS.
YOUNG STANGER: My comments about wishing good luck to your wife and her virus test obviously extend to YOU, TOO!!! Your efforts for the annual “MOBFEST” will forever be remembered by Dolphin fans everywhere. Among Dolphin fans, you are more than a bit of a legend!
I don’t think they should open schools anywhere until they have wiped out the socialist virus infecting them.
I don’t think they should do so till safe. So maybe we ended up on same conclusion for different reasons.
I agree 100% with Phelon’s reason
I understand people are much more concerned about COVID than I am. I also believe there is a panic agenda of the media. I don’t blame any governor for trying to open things back up when they did. Will I get vaccinated, yes, but just for the same reason I get a flu shot every year.
Not letting politics decide how I take care of myself. Going to give scientists’/medical personnels’ opinions the greatest consideration. The rest is all noise.
Any bets on the Redskins new name to be revealed tomorrow?
The Washington Middle-Aged White Men, and their can call will be: “Get off our lawn!”
Washington TRUMPS!
This sounds like a great idea.
LOL
Someone else called it……. The Hogs.
Are the Indians next? I think that will happen.
Blackhawks or Chiefs?
Braves have said they won’t change.
Putting your head in the sand/digging your heels in is always the best approach.
I’m not sure the Braves statement means anything. Snyder previously said the Redskins would never change their name.
I understand your point- I anticipate their resolve will be maintained in direct proportion to their profits.
Two weeks away from the start of training camp. It’s going to be real interesting t see how this plays out.
Players won’t be in a bubble. They have the option to stay at a team sponsored hotel or at home (except for the night before a preseason game).
Players will have a radio chip in their pads which will allow the league to track every other player they come within 6 ft of in a game, in cases of a positive test.
The league and NFLPA have not agreed about whether they are playing 2 or no preseason games. The league doesn’t believe they need NFLPA approval.
The NFL will allow each team to determine their own individual policies about allowing fans into stadiums on gameday.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29440970/the-plan-start-2020-nfl-season-know-know
For you lawyers out there,
i recently got duped for $700, from a reputable corporation or so i thought, they do business in fl with a major swimming pool wholesaler, horner equip. they sold me a training guide that they misrepresented, they are out of virginia, one of there officers of the corp has an address in tampa which is a comm office. what they sold me, the money was taken out of my bank here in fl. one of the owners said he would refund me in an email however that didnt happen.
my question is where do i file for small claims? here in florida or in virginia?
In fla, in most cases bc it’s easier for you
But if you want to file in VA it’s possible too
But Jurisdction always depends on the state rules, so I’m generalizing based on NY rules
But most states permit filing in state of the contract was agreed to in that state
And it sounds like you agreed to the contract online which means fla should be available to you Under that theory
Google “basis of subject matter jurisdiction in Florida” to confirm
But generally if the contract occurred in a jurisdction , the jurisdiction is the proper jurisdction for that lawsuit
I’m not a lawyer but I play one on the blog. You would take action in Fla where the transaction was made.
Thanks
They do business in FL you should be able to sue them here.
bailbondmike says:
July 12, 2020 at 6:39 pm
I understand people are much more concerned about COVID than I am. I also believe there is a panic agenda of the media. I don’t blame any governor for trying to open things back up when they did. Will I get vaccinated, yes, but just for the same reason I get a flu shot every year.
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Easy to not be as concerned when you work in a profession where concern isnt really allowed. Its a threat, its real, etc, but there are essential functions of our world where we still have to do those functions and we cant be terrified to face that fact and do the job. There is a middle ground between the ultimate panic and crazy careful way some of us are living and then the totale disregard that some of the other of us are living.
Im closer to the looney too careful side, because of my children, and im not sure how i feel about them going back to school. I kinda dont want them to, but this area is in such a way that they cant do remote schooling. They could not keep it fair for those that cant afford to do it online, and in this area, that would be a chunk of people. It really is a double edged sword, between stopping the spread and a stable economy, between stopping the spread and a healthy socialization and education. Really tough place fro anyone to be in, both as a citizen and a law maker.
CavalierKong says:
July 12, 2020 at 11:25 pm
Are the Indians next? I think that will happen.
Blackhawks or Chiefs?
Braves have said they won’t change.
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Indians top peeps have called for it. Its probably being discussed for them. Not sure about the others. Braves, isnt derogatory, neither is BlackHawks, Chiefs and unfortunately Seminoles (because i would so love them to have to change their name lol). Those are all honorable refrences to Indian culture. Braves is a societal ranking, as is Chiefs. Blackhawks and Seminoles are tribe names. Again, yeah with the world the way its going, im sure its going to be called for, because the real reason this shit is going on is people get empowered to hear their voice shake mountains. So im sure its very empowering, probably even qualifying as addictive to some im sure.
This was kinda what I was looking for. I have no idea which names are considered offensive to Native Americans and which aren’t, other than Indians of course. That one is obvious.
I understand this take, but I’m not sure that the people most “affected” by this agree, considering the iconography and various “war” chants that are utilized.
War chants might be offensive in the sense that that is personal i feel. Something that part of their culture and should be used for a football game. I could see getting rid of that for sure. Not needed in that context anyways, plenty of other ways to celebrate the team.
Besides the fact that war chants are annoying as hell.., but don’t fall for the PC BS of the left, they want to uproot the US as we know it, from destroying statues to families, and everything in between.
If all you see is conspiracies, all you’ll find is conspiracies. I want to look through a different prism.
On Cox being on the bubble:
Cox averaged just eight snaps a game last season, with his high coming in Week 7, when he was on the field for 18 plays, or 25 percent of the offense’s snaps. Miami had their fullback, but did not utilize him as much as they potentially could have. Develin was injured early last year, missing most of the season, but to continue the comparison, in 2018, he averaged 24 snaps a game, playing in 32 percent of the snaps on the season and playing at least eight snaps in every game.
Not sure why we need him on the roster, but if he could actually block or had some receiving skills I’d consider him.
One key point Kyle Crabbs makes about our WRs is they need to cut down on the drops. We were tied for last I believe, with 36 or so drops.
I’d need to see all drops to know for sure, but I do remember some bad ones. Parker against the jets and Laird with some at the end of the years. Anyways we’ve had more than our share lately, so I agree with Crabby.
Drops in general are drive killers.
Ballage had some really bad ones as well.
Steve,
I understand you think ‘the left’ just politicizes everything for their own gain (thankfully ‘the right’ is above all that), but is the point of your statement also that these things don’t actually matter to Native Americans? Or is it that the majority of America shouldn’t/doesn’t really care? If neither of those statements is true, then what is wrong with having a conversation about it?
I personally don’t care about the politicizing of it. I am able to separate the politics from the possible real issues. I care about a conversation regarding the details, and I think it’s a valid conversation to have.
But I also understand that you can’t have conversations with people that refuse to look past their own politics. If your answer to everything is “it’s all left BS” then you have no voice other than your own political leaning and the rote responses of your loudest members. You bring nothing to the conversation because it completely disregards there may be an actual issue. I think real people like us on this blog can try to discuss those actual issues. We often do.
So in regards to the actual issue, if we had the Alabama Cottonpickers, that name wouldn’t stand. So should we have names that are literally derogatory to a subset of Americans, like the ‘Indians’?
I have gotten the same sense. If it was the Georgia Crackers or the Chicago Honkies, people on the extreme right would be just as up in arms. Things change. Our demographics are changing. We’ll (white people) be a minority-majority soon. I think it worries some people. The way to get a seat at the table is to be more inclusive, and the right has had a hard time selling their message, particularly when the people they are trying to sell it to look at them and only see a bunch of old white guys. I worry because true conservatism (has been) will be lost.
I would love to see the conversation move beyond right and left, liberal and conservative. I know that some of the issues can’t move beyond that because some of the issues are deeply rooted in ideology.
But some of these things like offensive imagery or sports names is not ideology. Same thing with community statues of founding members of the KKK or Confederate leaders who fought for the right to own slaves. It’s basic humanity IMO.
Try — but thing is it never would have been the Georgia Crackers or the Chicago Honkies …. but guess that is part of the point.
Agreed Cav- I get frustrated when a statement is responded to with “the left” this or “the right” that. I particularly get peeved when one only sees the bad in the side they are opposite from, and never addresses the weaknesses of their own position. I don’t expect someone to make it easier for me in an argument (in the classic sense of the word), but occasionally you have to be able to say when your “side” has its weaknesses, too.
Can’t blame any native american for finding redskin offensive.
Indian might have just been passed by what is PC.
Not sure why anyone would have a problem with Seminoles….. unless the tribe was looking for money for naming rights.
I sit right in the shade of your first sentence.
We can have a conversation on this, I no problem with that.
My point is the PC crowd and identity politic crowd are the ones making an issue about this. For this to be a real issue, Native Americans need to be the ones bringing the issue forward, and not the left, and since the left are the ones creating the issue, then yeah everything is the left BS.
You can’t tell me, that since Trump was nominated the left hasn’t done everything in their power to get him impeached, divide the country, and do whatever to hurt the economy.
Trump has many flaws, but doing what he thinks is best for our country isn’t one if them.
I can’t say the same for the left politicians. They want the country to stay closed to hurt the economy, they want open boarders and to give free stuff to gain power. Everything they do seems to be geared at the 2020 election. Tget don’t give a damn about the American people.
Someone was telling the deep state was behind this COVID shit. Didn’t believe it but I am starting to.
I don’t know a lot about ‘deep state’ theories, so this is a legitimate question. Is the deep state supposedly worldwide? If not, how does that work with COVID deep state conspiracies? Is the whole world in on it or do we have a warped view of what is really happening in the rest of the world with COVID due to our media coverage? (i.e the rest of the world isn’t concerned with COVID)
BBM — on all the planned release of Covid in Wuhan conspiracy theories one question has to be answered — why would the Chinese release a lethal virus on its own people? An unintentional “escape” from a lab is possible and impossible to disprove, but that would just mean they F-ed up.
I can’t see the video. Is the theory that it was released on purpose by the Chinese as part of a deep state conspiracy? Like in conjunction with our government?
US gave like $4 million grant to the the lab in Wuhan (long known) that conspiracy theorists claim manufactured/ released on purpose/ let escape the virus. Somehow that means Obama/deep state was involved. But then didn’t watch the whole thing….it’s 12 minutes.
4B not 4M, the video also has Faucci on tape from 2017 saying a pandemic was going to hit this administration. We already knew he wasn’t on the level.
Stanger was correct it is 3.7M not billion.
Steve — you saying the US gave 4 Billion to that one lab in Wuhan? Was out before that the grant came from a large worldwide NIH grant program that might have been that much. No offense, but if billions went to that Wuhan lab think would be headlines for many days.
This is just more to think about, from what I wrote above.
I find it strange that the left has an issue with calling it the Wuhan Virus, unless this video is true. We already know the Bidens were in bed with China, so why would this be any different?
This all plays into what Cuomo did to the nursing homes in NY, killing hundreds of people. Does anyone really believe the left cares about us?
Not sure why couldn’t reply above — but wrote about billion versus billion before reading we agree was millions.
Steve
OK, I better understand where you are coming from. Basically what you’re saying is that Native Americans aren’t the ones that care about this or are pushing it. The left has just brought this into being to sow discord.
Again leaving the Trump politics aside (I’ve made my position on him clear and I don’t wish to turn this conversation into a fight about Trump), this HAS been an issue going back to at least the 1990s. That is when i first remember hearing about it, and I’m sure it goes back further. It’s not like this is a new convo.
No it’s not new, it’s just been brought up again by the left to propagandize their PC rhetoric. We have free speech in this country, at least we did.
I guess if you truly believe the entire left is that evil and they will do anything they can to get rid of Trump, and that there is a giant deep state controlling everything, and that everything bad is a leftist conspiracy, then there is no way to have a conversation about anything of substance without it always coming back to that. It is literally impossible to just talk about the actual issues.
It’s just such a binary and self-fulfilling conspiracy smorgasbord, that it’s impossible to rationalize anything beyond it. I can’t comprehend seeing everything in such simple terms and easy black and white like that, but I bet life sure looks a lot better when you have a boogeyman to blame for everything.
I’ve always considered myself cynical and disbelieving, but maybe I’m not. Maybe I really do have a more positive outlook and live in a world of dreams, lol. Ah well.
I find this stuff as stupid as the conspiracy theories about Bush, the right, and 9/11 blackflag BS. Same shoe different foot, lol.
We can talk about anything, that’s my stance right now. Please disprove anything I’ve written.
I do feel there is some truth to it being offensive to Native Americans, but i think this is furthered from a political perspective. The momentum behind it are mostly the unaffectted, as is the group that opposes it.
So thats where i find the situation, i cut out the we should or we shouldn’ts and focus on the feel of things. Personally there isnt much that bothers me, and thats not white priveledge its a focus on my part to ignore statements that are intention to rile me. The power of derogatoy terms is in the person that allows those terms to affect them. Yes they have no place in society, but what woul;d happen is we just took power back and let them roll off us like water.
Its infinitely more doable to control our own actions than the actions of other. Let me propose that the N word didnt bother blacks. Would it not stand to reason that word would have never gained usage since it wasnt effective? I mean that word in African means giver, so if it can mean something totally different elsewhere, why does it mean something nasty here? Because We made that meaning, we perpetuate that meaning and yes, those affect by it give it power.
This is not a proposal to allow the use of that word, it shouldnt be used, but the success of eliminating the effects of racism, the power it has is to take its power away. Once that part is under control, then the words will die on their own.
Back to my point about the name, i dont care what the left wants it remove for or why the right would even feel it should be fought over. Just step outside yourself and say, whats the point. If it potentially could cause people to feel slighted, why would it be so important to keep, and if you dont have a damn good reason, why not be the bigger man and change it despite your personal feelings on it.
PC and identity politics are against free speech. The left wants free speech, unless it opposes them. You don’t think free speech is worth fighting for?
Assuming this was meant to be a reply to a different post.
Yes, from Stanger below. Have no idea how it got here, but since there’s there’s so many music videos posted on this page lots if weird stuff is happening. May I suggest on Friday creating a new article with a music theme, then Saturday morning a new article on something else.
Not my rabbit hole today! 😉
We’ll likely never get to the bottom of this Wuhan scandal, but if true Faucci may be responsible for 135K+ U.S. deaths, and lol that Stanger is scared of Trump.
Guess you are right I am scared of Trump. And you do know have been a conservative GOP guy my whole life? But guess to Trump that would make me establishment.
steve — why are you doubting we have free speech in the USA. If anything I’m thinking has gotten out of control, not that would want to stop it.
Its a lot of you have free speech if you speak to what i want to hear these days. Maybe thats what he is referring to.
D– Upside of the internet is that it gave the common man the ability to be heard. Downside is that the common man was heard. Enjoy internet comments, but also miss when it was the guys who rose up out of the folks for this or that point of view that you were reading. In like the newspaper.
Steve,
I’ve tried to talk about the actual issue of offensive imagery and names, and confederate and KKK statues, and every other word you’ve typed is all about political chicanery. It goes back to what I said before, you refuse to even acknowledge any issues because in your mind everything is leftist conspiracy. It’s so much easier to shout conspiracy than face issues.
Wrong place for my reply, but I’ll reply to you too Stanger. people have no clue what Freedom of Speech means. Has Congress passed a law inhibiting Free Speech recently that I’m unaware of? No, so why is this even a topic?
What actual issues have you brought forth?
Social media, NY laws, college campuses…and what D said.
I dont buy that China released it on purpose, but i also dont agree with the statement that China wouldnt release it on its own people. That country is full of a history where they do whatever they want to to their people, they do not care for their populous.
It was always my opinion was that the OWNER of the team could name it whatever they wanted!
If it offended you don’t spend you money on there service!
AH the crux of freedom of speech!
If you want to be able to say what you want to, You have to let the KKK say what they want to!
And by the way, with all this talk of the KKK when is the last time you actually heard anything out of them????
Do they still exist?
Again, not what freedom of speech is, but at least this isn’t political, just ignorance, lol.
Ignorance?
I’d request an explanation?
wyoming — maybe I’m old, but do you remember when the American Nazis wanted to march through Skokie, IL? ACLU supported their right too. And man I never liked the ACLU. Respected their stance on that one though. You want freedom of speech….. that includes hearing what you don’t want to hear.
Not that particular instance.
But I have seen them support “White” organizations marches.
Steve,
Did you read anything I wrote or did none of it make it through the political prism you see everything through?
Offensive imagery and names. Community statues of founding KKK members and confederate slave owners.
I literally brought these subjects up with zero political leaning in my posts, just the subjects themselves. You turned the whole convo into a political sanfu, and now that is the entire conversation.
I’m not Steve!
But
If you find some part of our History that offends you. Your supposed to get a petition signed with enough signatures to get it put on a ballot for a vote?
Not back your truck up and rip it down! (Well that’s what I’d do! fuck that pulling ropes thing!) 😉
Ok, now this is what I’m talking about! We can talk about this shit without it becoming left this, trump that. I agree with you. I don’t like that mobs are tearing down statues. It needs to be done the right way.
But I am absolutely for removing some of these statues of confederate leaders
Ok, what’s your stance on offensive imagery and why? My stance, as stated above is, if a group is truly offended by it, then bring it to your congressmen.
The statues issue is too specific, because those aren’t the only ones being torn down. The subject should be on all the statues that are being torn down. These statues are part of American history and should be left untouched. We don’t have enough history in this country.
The problem Cav, is that some of those “monuments” have went up for vote before.
The “locals” didn’t vote for removal!
Yep, I am not in disagreement here. i very much am opposed to the way these statues are coming down even though I agree with there coming down, lol.
It’s like the Redskins. The Redskins name has been around for ages, and the issue has come up before and been shot down. Now the voices are loud enough that the organization is choosing to change it. It’s societal pressure, but still their choice.
I don’t really give a shit, if the Redskins change their name, beyond what the changing stands for.
Wyo,
Sorry, i could have been more diplomatic instead of rude, but I’m posting quickly and don’t have time to filter like I usually do.
Freedom of Speech has nothing to do with societal restraints to speech. it literally is just that Congress cannot enact laws inhibiting speech. So if we as a society say the ‘N’ word is bad, and there are societal repercussions from using it, that is not an infringement on free speech. And in regards to what you said, yes legally we have to let white power groups have a voice,and THEY DO. they can assemble and spread hate like anybody else.
That’s the crux!
Mr. Megaphone doesn’t want you to have free speech!
On either of the extreme’s
Cav, I apologize, if I’ve offended you in any way. I get a little too heated, when talking about some of these issues, and it isn’t meant to be personal to those on this board. When I refer to the left, I’m referring to the politicians, and MSM in some instances.
We’re good, bro, not offended 🙂 And I appreciate the branch. I know these are emotional conversations, and it’s hard to separate politics, ideology, beliefs, and issues, lol.
Thanks man!!
That’s probably what pisses me off about the whole situation!
I could live my life and never care what you do with yours!
But when you start telling me I’m all fucked up and need to do this and that. Well that usually get’s my fur up!
Adults talk and sometimes they disagree. Then they leave it at that. Pretty easy.
Going back to the societal restraint issue of letting it being handled by society, I think that’s wrong, because the loudest voice wins, and these days the MSN has created the side that gets the louder voice.
The OSU coach that got basically extorted by his star player for wearing an OAN shirt was ridiculous.
This is where the luxuries and freedom of our society is it’s own downfall. Our very freedom (and the internet) is what more freely allows these societal restraints to be enacted. When as a group we can get a person fired for saying one offensive thing, that is a major part of the problem.
I don’t see this as just a MSM issue. The MSM is the symptom, not the problem. If you wiped out the current iteration of MSM, something just like it would fill that void.
Yeah, but the problem is it’s too one sided now.
Is it though? I see a ton of news sites that go to the right and a ton that go to the left. This is part of what I don’t understand. I’ll be honest, when I want news, I google a subject, see what comes up, then go to a couple of sites that lean each way before I start to form an opinion.
In my experience the site like Fox news and OAN are as biased as the sites like MSNBC and CNN. I have easy access to both sides and their information. How is it one sided? Because more people choose to listen to what you term the MSM?
i don’t understand how people are so blind to what’s actually happening, What has our president done against the US that is so bad?
Why is the left pointing out any little crumb they can get on the guy?
maybe they should point out flaws in Trumps foreign policy instead of his twiiter posts,
what does twitter have to do with running a country and doesn’t he have a right to his opinion?
why do they resort to unlawful practice (Fisa warrants) spend countless american tax money on fraudulent impeachment.
i’m not so much in favor of trump as i am very scared of the left gaining power, all these riots are political by the left, they will resort to anything to gain power. Seattle with their CHAP or CHOP?
their mayor and gov happens to be on the left supporting that shit.
what about the innocent people who suffered due to that?
i’m sure Trump has mixed feelings about getting renominated. who would want to put up with this abuse for another 4 years.
He’s got my vote.
Trump is POTUS and a guy running for re-election. Those by themselves make him a target. And MY OH MY does he make himself an easy target. Not talking about any policies in any way. He’s smart enough to know that. Yet…..
…yet it doesn’t matter what he says or does, they’ll still go after him the same.
Of course they would….. but why make it easy for them?
Its very apparent what the left is doing. They are not attacking him on his decisions regarding the running of the country. They are causing chaos in a lame attempt to point the finger at him.
Joe Biden? Are you kidding me! If i were on the left joe biden would be the last person i qould want against trump. The man is 82 years old.
Joe biden gas dementia. He definitely did what they tried to impeach trump on. If you vote for joe biden you are not voting for joe biden because hes a puppet. The you have to ask yourself who are you really voting for because if elected biden wont be running this country
Yeah, I always thought in a democracy, you get to vote for who you want to be president.
ORob — then just vote for Trump. All this puppet stuff about Biden…. your opinion. But what’s it really matter since you won’t vote for him even if not true?
Stanger. I wont vote for him because hes a corrupt politician. And thats a fact.
So then you’ll vote for Trump……cool enough
Yes i will and you shouls also consider it
You never know ORob — I’m certainly ready to see what happens btwn now and Nov. What thinking person would say something could not change their mind? No scandal about Trump could come up that would change yours?
We can have all the conversations we want!
But this is what I’m talking about! And it’s tiresome!
Coming from a Senator!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/ArthurSchwartz/status/1282743966492962817?s=20
Yeah, so what are supporters of Biden? Sorry Libs, Biden is Trump, you aren’t convincing me you can do better when you put a more senile version of the same dude as your candidate.
Its seems to me they had their mind made up on Biden, because it didnt even seem to really play our before they picked him. Part of me does have a conspiracy about why. I wouldn’t not at all think its not because he is senile or has dementia and will not be fit allowing for the VP to take over. My guess is the real person they want in office is whomever they select for VP. I dont see Biden making it through a whole term.
It’s tiresome, but it comes from the top down, and I don’t mean Senators. How can you rail against this kind of talk from a Senator when every time our President opens his mouth, bigoted, racist, hateful statements follow?
Coming from a President!!!!!!
Does go both ways. Trump was attacking the CDC and Dr. Fauci today…… and they work for him. 🙂
I honestly don’t know why I’m still here responding, lol. It’s insidious, you can’t get away from it. And nobody understands the zero sum game, they just blithely go on playing.
wyoming85 says:
July 13, 2020 at 1:58 pm
It was always my opinion was that the OWNER of the team could name it whatever they wanted!
If it offended you don’t spend you money on there service!
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This why my belief that capitalism has built in ahole protection. Dont like what a company stands for, dont do business with them, no buisness makes them re-think their stances on things. Still this represents a community as well so it is a private business, but it also isnt. NFL could have made them change the name because of NFL image. So they aren’t exactly above the public opinion nor the legal responsibility to make changes. Just like players have conduct clauses, im sure so does any team with that NFL logo.
Ultimately thats how it got resolved, so i guess capitalism wins again?
Yep, capitalism does win again. The only reason Snyder is changing the name is because of the potential economic impact this has on his bottom line.
But that’s audio/video it doesn’t count as evidence, and its racist.
Thats exactly what is happening. The sponsors for the washington team is backing out financially due to the name. It didn’t take Snyder long to figure the right course of action. Hes the most inept owner in sports
Finally something you and I can agree on, lol.
One day ill get you to leave the dark side.
Anything is possible I guess, lol.
Steve, it’s a bit belated, but I just realized it was remiss of me not to offer an apology to you as well if I offended in any way, so I do so now. I know I too can be aggressive in tone, but I think we understand each other’s style well enough to not get riled beyond reason.
Didn’t think needed too, but thanks.
Cheers!
Meanwhile, in football news, Clowney to the Pets would piss me off. Although what I’m reading today is he’s being linked with the Eagles.
Seemed odd he’d go to the cheats, since he’d have to go there on the cheap, when he doesn’t have to. He could easily take 15M from several teams.
Its like anything, if you cant make the money you want to, take the chance for championship and right now, despite all thats change in NE, they are the most likely team to bet on getting back to the dance. That probably changes in the upcoming years, its unraveling, but at current, you can still trust Belichick can get them going again. He just wins, much the pity.
Personally, id take the money because my belief is that thats what we all work for, and i dont take for granted that even though it might be a harder road i can get there from most anywhere. Some prefer the easier road.
Clowney will never get the big deal he seeks from the Pats. Tom Brady isn’t there anymore either so not sure the Pats are a team players are jumping too just yet, until Belichick proves he can keep it rolling without him.
It’s hard to see him playing on a minuscule contract when he can easily get 10 figures. And there is no guarantee he gets the opportunity at another big contract.
Ugh, a couple more weeks and we might have some real NFL news to bandy about.
Im hopeful, but im not convinced. So many retractions already, makes me think they are already seeing the flaws in their plans.
yeah, I’m in the same place. I hope they figure it out, but last night I listed some of the rules they’ve agreed on, and I can’t see how it’s going to work.
Whole teams could end up in isolation due to contact during games with a player who tests positive.
Sitting at the neighborhood bar watching the Miracle in Miami on TV
Watched it at home. Our Bars are all closed down again.
I would find humor in this!
We have a collective LMAO at the bar!
LMAO
The Onion is always good for a laugh. One of my favorite publications.
LAST 2 minutes of the Pats @ Dolphins game from Dec. of 2018 starting now on the NFL Network. Beating New England NEVER gets old!! GOO-O-O FINS!!
DOLPHINS WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DOLPHINS WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DOLPHINS WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
OD look at my post above. Awesome game!
I want to think piggy, stenger, and they are paralegal son, i sent afinal email to clowns i mentioned earlier telling them how they took my money under false pretenses and that i had no choice other than to pursue them in small claims and that my next corespondence to them would be thealexandria sheriff serving them, within an hour the money was back in my account, THANKS GUYS
I don’t think most “white people” would have an issue with a team being called “pale face.” The issue is many people of color feel they are not treated as equals. Can we correct that? The tit for tat comparisons are getting old. Just saying!
I don’t think that a lot of people that are white would have a problem in a vacuum, but, as you say, the tit-for-tat mentality would override that.
Kendrick nunn bam adebayo and derek jones jr all have covid
How about chris jones to miami?
Too expensive. I hope Raekwon Davis can be somewhat like him.
He’s the guy you bring in when you can’t get over the top, and beat a certain team in the playoffs. We aren’t there yet.
Deion and Charles Haley come to mind, as guys that helped get their teams an SB win.
So we have a couple of COVID cases at my work in the last week. My employer (a government agency) sends an email letting everyone know this has happened. So far so good. They don’t name the people because this would violate HIPAA regs, but they do say they will inform anyone who might have been exposed.
This is the funny part: Their threshold for exposure is if the infected people had contact with anyone within 6 feet for 15 minutes or more. LOL, apparently it takes 15 minutes of exposure to contract COVID.
I do get why they are doing that, because if they truly went by possible exposure, they would have to include the whole building, but what a goofy place to put the line, smh.
I mostly think there’s too much hysteria over covid 19. There’s certain things that need to be done starting with the at risk people, who need to be as careful as possible, then those that get it need to be given one of the drugs that’s been curing it.
People in the at risk group might also think about taking hydroxychloriquin as a preventative drug.
Since the extended testing has been going on the death rate has significantly dropped, to numbers closer to the flu. Covid19 is more contagious, so more precautionary messuresvneed to be taken, but all of this reclosing and schools maybe not opening in the fall is more dangerous than the virus.
Well that infuriates me. I just spent 15 minutes typing out a response to you, Steve. And it dropped off into the nether. I’m not doing that again. fucking stupid site.
I’ve been saying stuff like that for a long time, but it falls on deaf ears.
The problem may be related to the amount of video links posted on Friday. The page takes a while to reload and I get bounced around a lot. I suggested they post a new article on Fridays with maybe a theme header and let people post all the links they want, then on Saturday put a new post up or just put a new post up on Saturday. The new post doesn’t have to be an article, it can just have a header.
Did you guy click on the thing that says
“Post Comment”
😛
We need a page turn. I should just Home it and type the same thing over and over. Crimson and clover…
Good, by the time we’re ready to challenge KC will be in cap hell.
I’m sorta wondering why teams are doing these new contracts when the cap may be down. Maybe they are factoring that possibility into the amount and you can sign cheap right now. Or maybe they are stupid and will get burned if that happens. Who knows?
How can anyone take this world serious anymore?????????
When you start lying and don’t ever come clean (the effect of global warming) you have to perpetuate it, and this is the kind of ridiculous shit that comes of it.
I’m wondering what gives too, but these U75s only want to be first. 5 yr 125M means nothing, without the guarantee and/or early money or is it back loaded like Mahomes. At least Schefty put in the guarantee.
Pats are going limited seating for their games.
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“Highlighting the ‘preliminary protocols’ is the announcement that, “pending state and local approval”, the team plans to admit fans to games this fall, up to 20 percent of the building’s total capacity. Gillette Stadium holds just under 66,000 fans for NFL games; the new guidelines would see about 13,000 people attending games in 2020.”
None Dolphins Post to the fantasy readers out there;
I am re-reading the WOT by Jordan. I have ready the 14 nook series like 2.5 times already. (going back and restarting from the beginning at least once while waiting for the series to be completed) and I just realized for the first time that Rand al’Thor is the son of the Daughter heir and Galad’s younger half brother. He is Elayne’s half-brother’s half–brother. HOW COULD I HAVE MISSED THAT!?
don’t know which typo to correct first. Just read through the errors. LOL
LOL
Yeah Galad and Rand are both Tigraine’s. Rand finds out about Galad being his brother in, I think, MOL.