When I first heard the news that the Dolphins waived/injured our 5th RD pick Curtis Weaver I was furious. Sometimes I can’t help myself, I think “same old Dolphins”. I thought for $670K we could have put the kid on I/R and next year we’d have ready to go and see what he can do. Take a look at the picture up above, the dude is flexing and my modest biceps are bigger than that dudes, he looks soft. Still, Weaver was productive and many draft experts gave us high marks on that pick, a great value in the 5th RD. The Browns, who claimed Weaver have put him on I/R. To be fair, I thought Flores looked especially and unusually uncomfortable when asked about Curtis Weaver. Flores is pretty quick and direct and during the interview, he labored to answer why Weaver was cut which leads me to think there’s something more than we may ever find out. In any case, Weaver is a Brown now and you know what that means to me. (I’ll spare you the expletives)
Kalen Ballage’s career as a Miami Dolphin is also over. He leaves much like one other promising RB draft pick of the past left, in disappointing fashion. Daniel Thomas never fulfilled his potential and Kalen Ballage who I once thought could be our version of David Johnson “light” yet turned out to be David Johnson 20,000,000 gallons of helium. So with the waiving of Curtis Weaver and then the release of Kalen Ballage, the Dolphins signed DB Deatrick Nichols and claimed RB Salvon Ahmed, a former Washington Husky RB. I can’t blame Kalen Ballage completely because our organization doesn’t have a ton of cred evaluating RB’s. We traded away Ajayi (Gase), we traded away Kenyan Drake (who is flourishing with the Cards) and now gave up on Kalen Ballage. If Ballage does well elsewhere, that will amp up this feeling.
The camp battles so far are encouraging. Big Robert Hunt and Solomon Kindley are making noise, winning some battles and losing others but making a splash nonetheless. I like that last years 3rd RD pick Michael Deiter is getting a lot of reps at center and is most likely being groomed as the replacement for Ted Karras who is here on a 1 YR show me contract. I can actually see light at the end of the tunnel with this O-line. Eventually, I see Jackson – Flowers – Deiter – Kindley – Hunt, or maybe Jesse Davis continues his elevated play at RT and holds off Hunt and Hunt moves inside to RG and then Kindley is a very nice depth player to have. The QB’s have all had ups and downs and rookie phenom Tua Tagovailoa is not immune to that. This is expected, anyone who thought Tua was just going to ride onto the field on a unicorn and throw rainbow TD’s every throw was due for disappointment. He’s just getting started and I’m sure there is a lot the kid is trying to absorb at this point. He’s got talent, let him get up to speed. Honestly, I expect some play from mostly everyone with the limited amount of work players and coaches are able to get in. Hopefully as the season progresses, things will look better. If that happens, that’s a good thing. I think teams that have mostly the same personnel and coaches back have a clear advantage over teams with many new p-layers, new coaches and new systems. The Dolphins check all of those boxes so keep your early expectation low.
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse
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We moved on, because we found a better option. Flores continually says that’s what they’re trying to do at every position. The risk to reward was worth the chance on Rosen.
The 20 or so hours of waiver wait time is about over. We should have a better idea of our week 1 roster soon.
Hand size Mike for Bowden is 9 3/4″, Tannehill 9″, Tua 10″, Parker 9 1/4″, Landry 10 1/4″ Burrow 9″
It does appear that successful NFL quarterbacks tend to have hand sizes closer to 10 inches than nine, or at least over 9.5 inches, so that doesn’t bode well for Burrow.
I think it’s important for a WR to have large hands, but not as much as a QB.
Bowden seems to check off all the boxes. The rumor on him is he’s more interested in buying cars than the playbook, but he does have a son to keep him grounded.
Other than the Raiders playing him at RB instead of WR and him being slow to adjust…something is missing from the equation, you don’t get rid of 3rd round picks before they play a game.
During the offseason I argued we would get a 6th at best for Rosen. I didn’t expect for him to be part of the team this year.
I am OK with using the 2nd to give Rosen a try and it not panning out, mostly because we had so many picks it didn’t hurt giving up one 2nd. QB is the one position that impacts the team in such a significant way that I believe in a philosophy that says you keep using capital until you get your guy, even if it takes a few years.
At some point though if you keep missing and other guys end up being good (say if Herbert or Love turns out to be great and Tua doesn’t), then you have to start questioning your decision makers.
The Lynn Bowden thing is pretty weird. 3rd rd pick gets traded before the start of his 1st season? I have to think he was terrible in Raiders camp, or he pissed someone off.
Or maybe we were really intrigued with him and picked up the phone and made an offer and they accepted. Who knows? Maybe they had discussed him when the trade for McMillan went down.
I considered that, and that would be our best case scenario, but it just makes no sense. Why weren’t they part of the same trade. There could have been a trust thing there on our part. We’ll give you McMillan and in a few days you give us Bowden, but why do it that way? If that was the way it went down, it’s weird.
But the compensation we gave up to get him didn’t match what Raiders used to get him, so it wasn’t an offer they couldn’t refuse.
If you make it along with the McMillan trade and he doesn’t pass a physical or some other issues comes up you void the trade, maybe they didn’t want that risk.
I agree Mike it likely came up with the Mc trade.
Why on earth would we trade a 4th for a guy that the Raiders spent a 3rd on, he didn’t even make it out of their camp, and we might have concerns may not pass a physical, and make it ‘tied’ to the McMillan trade? That makes even less sense.
This think perhaps I misunderstood your original comment, Mike. I thought you were saying it was ‘wink’ tied to the McMillan trade, but rereading I see that probably wasn’t what you meant. Just that he came up
Interesting article. Not sure about all of it but it makes sense. Looking at some of the highlights, he’s a jack of all trades but master of none. He wasn’t a very good WR, and was a terrible QB. He was a solid RB but was that because he was in the QB position while running? He’s definitely not on par with Lamar or other running QBs so we will see if he works as a hard to defend option in another area of the field.
Basically took a flyer on him, I guess. Off field concerns, didn’t make it out of his first camp. He really doesn’t seem like our kind of guy. There must be something there they find intriguing.
Nothing wrong with being frustrated by misses and cuts of previous regimes or current ones. Why shouldn’t you be disappointed? Let’s get real here! I’m not saying you have to cry about it for days but there should be disappointment when you miss on high draft picks.
I think it’s a matter of philosophy. Nobody is jumping for joy that Rosen didn’t pan out, lol, but understanding the philosophy that you have to keep trying until you get a QB until you hit on one, you have to kind of expect it, not harp on it being some huge mistake.
I’m also not very disappointed just because it was QB. You have to take those risks sometimes.
I’m going with ODs theory of Rosen can’t read a D. Once they benched him last year in the Skins game his career in Miami was over, if they thought he had a chance to be their franchise QB he would’ve played out the year. With that said he did us a favor by stinking it up.
If he had been Tannehill level we could’ve spent the next 7 years wasted on his potential. As it turned out Fitz got the nod, the program changed drastically and FAs sought us, for a change. Again Rosen did us a favor. We’ll see how big with the future comparison of Tua vs Burrow.
Steve – Maybe they didn’t see what they expected from him and getting the 4th back was better than keeping him buried on their depth chart.
Something happened there (here😉) you just don’t get rid of 3rds like that, for next to nothing.
5 11 201lbs 4.41 9.5″ Mike’s 😉
Tampa Bay Vipers and U of F
A reclamation project. Talented, but had some issues with Cleveland.
Flores does well with players is the only reason I’m not more concerned with Bowden. When you look at his games and stats, nothing before last year jumped out and last year mainly jumped out because of him playing QB. He was a terrible QB by the way but teams had a hard time stopping his running. I don’t think that would be a problem in the NFL though. Looking at it more, is there anything he does better than Grant or Breida? Maybe injury insurance at scatback?
Hopefully either him or Perry pan out if not both. Someone earlier mentioned wildcat schemes. With two of these jack of all trades guys, we might see some very interesting offensive sets this year.
Other than 1st rd picks I’m not really worried about any picks right now, because we have so many this year, next year, and the roster is so young. When you have an aging team and you give away draft picks for questionable players it means a lot more. We have more room for error, but we need to hit on all of our 1sts.
Kong – In the case of Rosen, yes, but it’s the cumulative effect of him, Raekwon McMillan and so many others that we have jettisoned because they weren’t scheme fits or just unwanted players from previous regimes. We have to finally end that and be more like the Ravens and Steelers and have continuity with the GM and HC. Changing every 3 years makes this happen. We need Flores and Grier to stay together for a nice long stretch and these type of things will lessen significantly, or at least it should.
Gotcha, I agree with all that. Objectively speaking, right now I really believe we have the right guy in Flores, and the book is still out on Grier IMO, so I get being annoyed and questioning moves like Rosen after all the shit we’ve seen for the last decade, lol.
This year will do a lot to inform us about our GM. Hopefully we do have the right guys and this is the start of many years together.
I agree, but let’s not assume these other teams that have great programs don’t miss on draft picks. Belicheat himself missed on many top picks.
Yep — scheme changes burn talent.
Let’s compare the entire trade, in essence we traded Mc for Bowden swapping a 5th for a 6th. If we didn’t make the trade, kept Mc and played him very little, or worse, played him a lot and he continued to get beat in pass D, would we be better off?
Hard to believe we would’ve been better off, and Bowden is under contract for 4 more years, instead of Mcs 1.
Don’t owe you a beer, but our fingers were thinking similarly.
You cheap bastard😉
Might have been two different transaction but essentially we gave the Raiders McMillan for Bowden. And if they didn’t see McMillan in their scheme going forward I’m cool with that. He is in a contract year and we got 4 seasons of Bowden.
That is what I thought Mikey was saying at first, and that doesn’t make sense to me. Why do a weird two trades over a few days thing instead of just making the trade. I can believe they may have discussed Bowden on the first trade, but don’t see the logic in a ‘wink’ trade. JMHO
Yes, to answer directly, that’s not what I was implying. I just think they may have discussed acquiring him during the McMillan trade but at that time they didn’t like the compensation. Maybe we upped the bounty or maybe they just changed their mind. We’ll likely never know.
I wasn’t saying that was the way everything was planned….. just that’s the way it turned out. Maybe Greir and the Raiders had a great talk and when Bowden got caught with a hooker their first call was us. 🙂
It’s not a wink trade, it’s a taking the contingency out of the trade, trade.
Ok, gotcha Mika and Stang. That makes a lot more sense to me, lol.
Steve – Like I said, it could have been in discussion with the McMillan trade and maybe at first they balked at it but after consideration they relented.
I like my theory that we didn’t want to lose Bowden, especially off of the heels of the Ballage trade not going thru, due to some technicality, which would make your statement true also.
Isn’t it easier to sell your house first, before buying a new one, contingent upon selling your old one? That’s what these trades were.
Where the hell am I going to put all my shit while I’m looking for my new house? lol
Usually player trades go down in the same trade. I don’t want to keep harping on this, so I can agree that you may be right, but IMO they were two different trades. 🙂
Can we use donkeys instead of houses? Can’t wrap my head around the house analogy. 😀
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Hopefully either him or Perry pan out if not both. Someone earlier mentioned wildcat schemes. With two of these jack of all trades guys, we might see some very interesting offensive sets this year.
I had them in the Wildcat together, both in the QB spot, split slightly off center, so you didn’t know which one was going to take the snap.
How great would it be to bust out a WC scheme effectively in New England on opening day? Let’s make Belicheat bury another gameday tape! LOL
Screw the Wildcat. With Abrams and Perry we are ready for some old time football.
^Bowden not Abrams
Can’t wait to see the new offense!
Holy shyte. We are literally a week away from our opening game. Woohoo!!
And only 4 days away from the league opener. Texans and Chiefs this Thursday.
I’m going all out like it’s Super Bowl for our opening game. I’m doing a full homemade Indian cuisine spread.
Chicken curry, butter chicken, shai paneer, potato rice pilaf, pakora with mint chutney and tamarind chutney, and naan.
I have basically spent my quarantine time learning how to make Indian food and painting the whole dang house. lol
I don’t serve Indian food for Superbowl, that line was more about the quantity of food I’m making.
You’re painting the house with Indian food? The whole hose or just the bathroom?
LMAO!
Callback to the oxford comma. Needed to separate ‘naan’ as a different item than the ‘pakora with mint chutney and tamarind chutney’. lol
That sounds awesome. Love me some Indian food. Never knew someone who could make it (even if am sure a bunch of Indian people I have met could).
Stang, I don’t know anyone else who makes it either. I fell in love with it after going to an Indian lunch buffet a few years ago. I eat and cook a lot of different food, but Indian is my favorite.
They key is in the spices. With most international cuisines, you can usually find substitutes for hard to find spices and staples. With Indian food, you have to invest in certain products or it’ll never taste the same. Could be why not a lot of people make it. Of course I don’t know a lot of people that like Indian food, so that is probably a factor as well, lol.
Writer’s comment on the LB unit — “Baker has gone from the team’s best coverage option to perhaps the worst coverage option out of Miami’s base three linebackers in just one year.” And wasn’t saying Baker got worse.
Pass D should be strong. My only concern is the run.
Kong – I had some Pad Thai from what is supposed to be one of the best Thai restaurants in NJ and all can say is it was easily the most flavorful and enjoyable Pad Thai I have ever eaten. I suspect they used a generous amount of tamarind because it was delicious. I had it 2 days later because I couldn’t finish it and it was a flavor bomb again 2 days later. I find Indian food to be much the same, just bursting with different flavors that aren’t so familiar to me and it’s just so pleasurable.
Nice! Of the people I serve Indian food to, if they don’t like it, it’s because of the flavor palette being so different from our own.
I experience it the same way you describe. It’s bursting with flavor, most unfamiliar, and it’s so complex. Amazing food.
I make a mean Thom Kha Gai (coconut soup) and Thai Curry chicken too.
tom not thom
Rosen signs with Bucs to their practice squad. Makes sense for him to compete there to try and replace Brady when he retires for good.
Good spot for him
Wish him nothing but the best. Do have to wonder when is the last time a Top 10 pick ended up on a practice squad. Would think they’d burn up their eligibility before that happened.
Cav — I’m sure with the internet now you can get whatever spices you need, and in the old days that might have been why people did not make it. Cause that is the thing about Indian — the spices are just so very different. Lot of the dishes look like could come from a Chinese menu, but one bit tells you a whole different world. Not for everyone though….. my wife hates it.
Amazon is my best friend. They have every item needed that can’t be found in the supermarket. And recipes and techniques can be found online. It’s my favorite thing about the internet. It opens up the world of cooking 🙂
Tom yum and Tom kha are both awesome. Outside of vietnamese pho those are my next favs
Mrs, K and I loved Indian food. Just took some friends to our favorite, first-time, secret place on Wednesday. They loved it, too.
That was supposed to be to Cav….lol.
Kong – When I’m in the Cali area I expect an invite for some soup bro! What a trip that would be, I’d be with a dog family, and ape family and a brewery owner/operator. What could be better?
Open invite, brotha.
Ruddock signed to PS
Kong :
I thought you only ate bananas and bamboo
Lol, I’m a semi-civilized ape.
Days64, it’s good to know your a follower of the KISS philosophy.
We loved the curried mussels with garlic naan. Mrs. K would use the broth for dipping. Best in ATX, imo.
She loved the goan yellow curry with shrimp.
Been eating Indian food since 1980.
I wish I’d discovered it ages ago. I bet the options were pretty limited in 1980 compared to now. It’s a great time to live when it comes to access to different cuisines.
I love naan
Kong:
Where about in CA are you? One of mine sons is interested in University of San Francisco and when it is feasible I hope to get out there for a visit
I’m in Carmichael which is in the heart of the Sacramento area. If you’re in the bay area, you’re somewhere from an hour to two hours away from me.
It’d be great to meet ya, Ken! Let me know if it’s possible and we’ll meet up. If it’s too far a drive, we could even meet up at a half way point and maybe grab a drink and some lunch or something.
If we can find a place that is open lol
Cool. Right now I have to wait for travel restrictions to ease up but USF is a really good school and they keep emailing my son so I really want to get out to see it. I have been to SF once and I loved the city
The Hulk and King Kong walk into a bar………………………..
Or is that sit next to one??????? 😉
Only Q on that one is which smashes the bar. Least know who grabs the blonde. 🙂
Why does the ape always get the girl?
With Bowden I think Preston’s punt return days are over.
I certainly hope so.. that was the one place I hated him
So far Callaway and Rudock on PS.
Rosen to TB with Ariens actually makes sense as well.. he was the Cards coach when the y drafted him
A development year. Actually think Brady might be good for him.
Brady is good for nothing !!!!😡
Callaway was hyped as super talented and I believe later fast but mentally was a josh Gordon… if he finally grew up this could be a good signing
Laser not later^
KEN: YOUR SON is looking at the WRONG USF! Tell him to take a close look at the USF in TAMPA!!!
DALLAS STARS VS. THE VGK TONIGHT on NBC. Knights have better talent and should win this Western Conference Finals series in 5 or 6 games. But I give the Stars a REAL CHANCE TONIGHT as the Knights may be just a tad over confident.
WTF, where did that come from? I can assure you, they aren’t over confident.
Ken says:
September 6, 2020 at 6:07 pm
Why does the ape always get the girl?
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Philosophical and existential questions such as this should never be examined too closely. Better to just accept it as incontrovertible truth and move on. LOL
LOL
OD — why is the University of South Florida in Tampa? Not even trying to make a crack…..actually curious since Tampa is towards the northern part of the state.
YOUNG STANGER: When the University of South Florida was founded it became the most southerly location for ANY state university in the Sunshine State (neither FAU nor FIU had been created yet, and the U of MIAMI is a private (and VERY expensive university). HENCE the USF name selection
THAT SAID, the founders of USF obviously weren’t geography majors. Something like “TAMPA BAY UNIVERSITY” would have been more appropriate, especially since almost everyone understood that it was only a matter of time before southern Florida had not one but TWO state universities. (Also, it should be noted that Florida Southern came into being before WW2 in LAKELAND. It is a PRIVATE school, also).
USF (Tampa) was already a pretty large school when I went to college in the late 60’s. I felt much more at home at the smaller FAU campus. However, FAU, which had less than 2,000 students in the mid-60’s, maxed-out at over 30,000 two years ago, before the big virus caused enrollment decreases.
Thanks Randy. Does seem like U F- Tampa would have been the way to go.
My next door neighbor in Miami went to USF, I used to bust his balls too on it being in Tampa🤔
goofball!
I really like Jerome. He’s a good dude and a good player. Speed LB which many here on this blog have wanted for a long time.
27 new players are on the current roster from last year.
I thought TB might be a logical landing spot for Josh Rosen and there you have it.
THE DALLAS STARS out shot, out hit and OUT SCORED the VGK in the opening period of tonight’s Western Conference Finals on NBC. NO surprise to me because I thought Vegas might enter this contest a bit over confident. HOWEVER, there are still at least TWO more periods of action ahead of us. AND I STILL EXPECT Vegas to win this series in 5 or 6 games.
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AT LEAST THIS GAME has been quite intense and exciting, unlike last night’s boring, lopsided, affair where the Isles showed up and the Flyers didn’t. Look for more excitement, and, perhaps, a fight or two as this game progresses. If Fluery does his job well in the next two periods, I still believe the odds favor VGK. BUT—The Stars DO HAVE a real shot tonight.
Dallas is tough. It took the Blues a double overtime game 7 to knock them out last year. Vegas has to be on their A game to win this series.
With just 8 shots in the 1st period and either 4 or 5 shots in the 2nd period, Vegas has yet to show their A game tonight. Fluery saved Vegas’ ass a couple of times in the 2nd period. Otherwise this would be a 2-0 or 3-0 game. The VGKneeds to come out of the locker room and SCORE with their man advantage at the start of the 3rd period.
3 games in 4 nights, and having trouble scoring doesn’t exactly breed over confidence.
Hockey playoffs is a grind. The team that makes the most plays wins. Just like in all sports.
Vegas’ total dominance of their opponent in their last game actually did breed over confidence. The 3rd period of their previous game was as lopsided as I can recall during the current playoffs. Of course if you DON’T accept the over confidence factor, then you’ve GOT to believe Dallas is simply the better team. AND I DON’T accept that even for a second.
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The NEXT game in this series should bring out THREE GOOD PERIODS OF HOCKEY from the favored Knights, who, found out tonight that you can’t beat Dallas with just one period of good effort. I’m going to say VGK wins the next game by MORE THAN 1 GOAL!
The entire game 7 was lopsided, yet all they could score was 1 goal, with the goalie in the net. The Vancouver coach played not to lose and it backfired, making VGK look dominant.
I believe Dallas played better in game 1, because of the mentally tough 3 games in 4 days VGK just went thru and getting out hit. Without Ryan Reeves playing, Dallas was able to control the 1st period, when the goal was scored.
Besides, this is hockey, a lucky bounce or roll of a puck can change the game.
Obviously the team still sees something in Durval Queiroz Neto on the OL.
Lol
RIP Lou Brock
Fuck, our childhood heroes are dropping like flies. I was never a fan of his team(s), but I sure did admire his greatness.
Oh man Lou Brock too. RIP Lou.
Jake Ruddock to the practice squad.
Hold the same job as Josh Rosen in the league.
Ruddock actually looked half way decent on his limited snaps during preseason games last year.
Brian Flores Monday September 7 media availability thread
Ryan Fitzpatrick will start the season opener in New England. “This isn’t ground breaking news,” Flores says as he mentions the shortened offseason and a good training camp for Fitz.
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Depth chart coming soon, Flores on player listed as starters.
Guys listed as starters are guys that had a good camp, they’re ahead of some other guys. I wouldn’t put too much into that because there are so many personnel groupings.
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“I’m still demanding. I coach guys hard. I’m passionate abut coaching, passionate about getting guys better. I love coaching.”
Told you they love Davis and McCain
Baker not a Captain and he was last year.
I think Baker may be too much of a clown for him to be a captain. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a great ascending player, but not the captain material they’re looking for.
The biggest surprise is Robert’s. I think that tells us he’s going to be a big part of this D.
Someone wrote yesterday, that Baker went from being the best cover LB last year to the worst this year, without getting any worse. That’s telling for the newcomers and Van Ginkel/Eguavoen.
I just got a chill, thinking we actually can cover backs and TEs.
3 former Pats as Captains, can you say leadership void?
5/8 of the team captains are new to the team this year
The Dolphins ended up signing 17 players to their practice squad because they had two players who do not count against the 16-player limit.
One is Durval Queiroz, who gets an exemption because of his international practice player status. (This is why I said Lol to Tim above)
The other is wide receiver Antonio Callaway, who officially has been suspended by the NFL. While the NFL transactions log didn’t provide a length for the suspension, NFL Network reported it’s for seven games.
The other 15 include 12 players who were waived by the Dolphins, along with two other familiar faces — quarterback Jake Rudock and cornerback Javaris Davis, who was in training camp this summer.
The two newcomers are defensive back Brian Cole, a rookie seventh-round pick from Mississippi State, and defensive lineman Nick Coe, a rookie free agent from Auburn.
The dozen players brought back after being waived Saturday are RB Salvon Ahmed, WR Matt Cole, DB Tae Hayes, DB Nate Holley, T Jonathan Hubbard, LB Kylan Johnson, DT Benito Jones, WR Kirk Merritt, TE Chris Myarick, DE Tyshun Render and CB Ken Webster.
The guys I hoped would be there seem to mostly be there, like Cole and Merritt, Render and Benito, Ahmed and Rudock. The rest I don’t really care or know enough about.
Coe is an interesting guy!
If I’m thinking of the same one?
Yes, I agree. This is the type of development guy you want on the PS, one that’s not ready yet, but has a huge upside. I see them adding some weight/strength to his frame and playing him all over the place, typical Flores type player.
2020 Guide: What Ourlads’ Scouting Services said about NICK COE: Auburn, 6045 280 4.81. Junior entry, one-year starter, Asheboro, NC. Reached his peak in 2018 and failed to maintain his starting role last fall. A big time high school wrestler in the 285-pound class. Was known for his position-versatility at Auburn, as he lined up as a stand up outside linebacker, 3-4 defensive end, and 4-3 defensive tackle. The tool set he brings to the table allowed him to achieve the tweener-status, one he really produced from in 2018 (13.5 TFL and 7 sacks). However that tweener status didn’t help him much in 2019, as he struggled to make a consistent impact. There is a lot of stiffness in his game and a team may want to force him into one spot and develop him there. His ideal position is likely a 3-4 defensive end where he can use his length and contact power to consume blockers and control 1-2 gaps. Long armed with a country-strong upper body and capable knee bend. An inside-out player that has a bit of a tweener-style. Has a body that will handle more bulk over time. Gets his hands on the blocker early with a violent strike. Capable of playing low and quick. Will make reads inside and show natural gravitation toward the action. A strong finisher who wraps up the ball carrier with man-strength and solid wrap up technique. Shows the extra gear burst while closing in on the ball. Has shown an array of developed rush moves inside. Doesn’t play with consistent pad level. Will get caught looking in the backfield and lose track of his leverage and width. Has a hard time disengaging. 2019 stats: 15 T, 3 TFL, 3 QBH. Edge speed:left 2.41, right 2.30. OSR:12/25. Fourth/fifth round. (A-33 3/4, H-10 1/4, BP-21, 10-1.67).
Practice squad roster. Glad to see a few names back like Kirk Merritt, Tyshun Render and Benito Jones. There are also some interesting additions to include DE Nick Coe from Auburn. Some of us had mocked him to us.
QB Jake Ruddock
RB Salvon Ahmed
WR Kirk Merritt
WR Antonio Calloway
WR Matt Cole
TE Chris Myarick
OT Jonathan Hubbard
OL/DL Durval Queroz-Neto
DE Nick Coe
DE Tyshun Render
NT Benito Jones
LB Kylan Johnson
CB Ken Webster
CB Tae Hayes
DB Nate Holley
DB Javaris Davis
S Brian Cole
I guess we get to keep 17 because of Neto.
Calloway is interesting too. I mean, if Flores can get his head straight, he’s a talented guy.
Thing about Flores is he can speak straight to these guys, having the minority upbringing as he did. I think it gives him a huge advantage. It worked, so far with Preston.
So we got a free 1st round talent in Preston, but gave up a 2nd in the Rosen cut. To me that’s better than a wash.
Anyone know what the changes were to the PS rules? I think you can protect a few, but I don’t remember the exact number.
16, and we get an exemption for Neto. There’s other rules that changed for this year, that I posted last week, such as players off the PS can play in a game twice, then go back to the PS the next day before having to sign an NFL contract, the 3rd time they revert to the old rules. There’s some waiver rule changes too, that deal with these moves.
Wait, you can protect 16, or there are 16 on the PS? I thought there was a certain number you can protect from being poached.
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Last year’s play, this year’s preparation and play go into the decision to name Ryan Fitzpatrick the starter.
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As a coordinator Chan has always been upstairs. “The calmness of being able to think through the next series, to look at plays without guys coming up to you is great.”
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“Fitzpatrick’s understanding of the game is right up there with the best.” — Chan Gailey on his QB
Says he understands not just what the offense is doing but what the defense is trying to do. Leadership, accuracy, competitiveness and knowledge, Gailey mentions as strong points.
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Gailey says Flores and Coach Josh Grizzard were the ones showing him what Lynn Bowden can do on the field.
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Gailey on what makes it so hard to win in Foxoboro.
“They’ve got good players. I don’t care where you play, good players make the difference.”
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Gailey says the staff has worked hard to get Gesicki better as a blocker and the same with Smythe as a receiver. They believe both guys have done that. “Hopefully we’ve got more balance there than people might think at this point.”
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Gailey says Preston Williams is in a good place going into the first game. Says they tried to get him some rest throughout camp with the days off here and there.
Toba – When is our draft?
FMU Fantasy draft is Wednesday at 9:30 PM EST
Thanks bud!
Mike, 16 can go on the PS. Neto is an exception because of international status and Caldwell is under suspension for I think 7 games.
Here let me google that for you:
4 players can be protected per week from poaching.
Calloway was suspended last year. I heard 7 and 10 games, with the 10 games I think I read he has 3 more to go. I think the 7 is already served.
Ian Rapoport says he is suspended for the 1st 7 games of this season, so let’s go with that.
Don’t see Calloway getting on the field this year anyways, unless we have a lot of injuries and he makes a late season appearance. He needs to take a year off and get his head straight anyways.
Wyoming, Nick Coe at 6’5″ 285 can play DE in both a 3-4 and 4-3. Not overly quick or fast but stout. Does well to hold his ground. Good vs the run. He was a beast in 2018 but production really fell off in 2019. Not sure why.
Best thing about getting him was we stole him from NE. He was cut to get their roster to 75 in the middle of August but an article on Aug 25 said NE was going to bring him back and sign him to their PS. Not! lol
Anyone notice all of these DL guys we have can stop the run? Any surprise the one we waived, Weaver, couldn’t?
Lol, 20 seconds in, Coe makes a TFL against Gaskin.
The captains were picked by the players. Looks like the familiarity of Flores’ D for Van Noy and Roberts are what got them picked.
Thanks Steve – I could have googled, thought someone might have known
JBB
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Flores said he’s excited to have two versatile rookie playmakers and converted college quarterbacks in Malcolm Perry and Lynn Bowden Jr., but cautioned that Bowden would need time to learn the team’s offense and system after his Saturday acquisition from the Las Vegas Raiders.
Both players will play receiver, from what we’ve been told.
“I’m excited about both Lynn and Malcolm from a talent standpoint,” Flores said. “Tough, competitive guys. We did a lot of work on Lynn pre-draft and when the trade was an option, we did a lot more work.
“We’re excited about having him join our team. There’s a lot he’s going to have to learn. He’s not going to jump out and start playing. He has to learn how we do things. He’s got a lot to learn and [that takes] a little bit of time. We’re excited to have him. We’re excited to have Malcolm also.”
Josh Boyer Monday 9/7 media availability thread
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“The defense will evolve over time. It’s going to come down to execution and fundamentals. Over time the chemistry, camaraderie, the fundamentals, all of that will improve. We don’t expect to be playing our best ball in September.”
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“Cam (Newton) is a good player and Josh (McDaniels) is a good coach so I’m sure there will be a good marriage there. Like New England does they’re gonna get the best out of their players.”
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Boyer says the three captains did a lot in the offseason to reach out to other guys to get workouts together. Also mentions Eric Rowe and Davon Godchaux as other guys that helped to build and facilitate relationships.
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Coach Boyer will be down on the field on game day. Says he’s gotten as good of an education as anybody from guys like Flores or Matt Patricia spending time with those guys on game day with regards to play calling and the flow of the game.
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Boyer on his pass rushers and creating pressure:
“Pressure comes in a variety of forms. Some of it will be individual effort, some of it will be scheme oriented, but we’ll take it any way we can get it.”
This is what I want to see, from guys not named Ogbah/Lawson, some of it will be scheme oriented. From those 2 we’ll get individual effort. Van Noy is going to benefit from the scheme, he knows how to work it, the rest like Baker and Roberts will also get it from the scheme. The guys in the middle will mostly get coverage sacks, with a few stunt/scheme sacks mixed in.
I guess Bobby McCain is here to stay since he’s a team captain
Lol!
With overall good coverage that we expect, and something that resembles a passrush Bobby could be that ballhawk centerfielder we’ve all coveted. He has good vision, good enough hands, and mainly get the picks, because he’s in the right place at the right time.
Temper that with he also picks Tampa to win the Super Bowl.
Well that is a splash of cold water, lol.
We’ve got the talent this year to win the division. You could say we have a tough schedule, but we have the easiest in the division, if you consider us as equal to Buffalo or NE head to head.
The area we’re lacking in is experience. How long it takes to get up to speed will determine our chances.
Peter King just loves the the Phins. Been talking them up for years through different regimes. Think he must be a fan…. or maybe he just hates the Pats.
Moving 2 guys up from the practice squad on game day was put in to help even the playing field for teams that possible have covid cases or multiple guys out due to injury. They’ve added 2 guys a week to the active roster, so allowing 2 PS guys to come up seems logical.
Depth chart coming out soon, but the only grouping that isn’t obvious that matters is the OL or maybe just RT. Many of the other groups guys will be subbed in and out.
one of the reasons they probably went with 2 qbs is the fact they have 2 other utility players that can play qb in perry and bowden.
Think two on the active roster and one on the PS is becoming pretty standard these days. And lets face it — if your top 2 QBs go down in a game you’ve probably lost that one anyhow.
FEST UPDATE
I really have nothing to update you don’t already know, but a bunch of you folks already said you were in when put in the group tix res. Worried that some of you might be making flight reservations when shouldn’t.
The one thing for sure this year is that won’t be Fest as usual. Well other thing for sure is that there can’t be a tailgate. Even if I can get tickets with the limited seating (which I doubt)….. at that point would rather set up at Bokamper’s or something for the game. But if a Covid spike comes don’t even know can do that.
If the gravitas is there for folks to come down for the Lions game….. I will set something up. But you get the idea…..
And don’t worry about me. Only have a small deposit down at this point. Pretty sure can get that back no matter what.
Unfortunately it’s looking unlikely that we’ll be making the trip this year. Sucks, it’s such a great few days!
Covid killed the Fest is the way it is looking . Time for a Hootenanny in 2021.
This is nice to here from Raiders GM Mayock.
“No. 1, it was a football decision only,” Mayock said Sunday, per The Athletic’s Tashan Reed. “Character, off the field, the kid did absolutely nothing wrong. We did all our homework on the kid off the field. He worked his tail off. He came to work every day. So this was completely a football decision. It had nothing to do with anything else.
“Quite frankly, I think the position change is a difficult one in any year, but it’s exaggerated in a COVID-19 year with no offseason,” Mayock continued, alluding to Bowden’s unofficial move from wide receiver to running back. “You’re taking a kid that was a slot receiver in ’18, a quarterback in ’19 and asking him to play running back in ’20. Really the only other thing I’m going to say about it is that it was my call. He was not able to play today at the level expected. Because of that, we felt like we had to make a move. Again, it’s 100 percent on me.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/mike-mayock-explains-why-the-raiders-traded-their-third-round-pick-before-he-played-a-single-game/ar-BB18NdIh
*hear* sheesh
Pair this with Flores saying he views him as a receiver, and what I’m reading is the Raiders drafted him with the idea of making him a RB. He wasn’t living up that expectation, so we traded for him because we like him as a receiver/ slash player.
Mayock is full of shit.
LOL
He had no reason to make that strong a statement after the trade, a generic one would have been fine, but it is your town so if the buzz your hearing is different…
Callaway is incredibly talented. He could be starting for us before the end of the year. I do agree he needs to get things straight and we need to make sure he has himself center and ready to be a pro, but he might be more talented than anyone on our team currently if he can get out if his own way. Before he lost his way at UF he was almost unstoppable and that’s when we really didn’t have a QB to get the ball to him.
Yep, he was a top graded talent with loads of off field issues. It was a very Bleicheat kind of move to pick him up. A no risk reclamation project with a lot of upside.
I feel with the locker room we’ve created, there is no risk he’ll be a distraction. Either he takes direction and our team helps him get his head on straight, in which case he can be a real dynamic player for us, or he doesn’t buy into the program and we jettison his ass.
I feel like both of those moves, Bowden and Callaway are more for the future. Not sure either one can make an impact this season.
Why not Bowden this year? You don’t make that trade to redshirt him. We had guys coming off of the street last year to play.
I didn’t say we’re gonna redshirt him but I don’t think picking him up at this late stage that he’s going to be able to make a big impact. He’s a rookie way behind everyone else.
TO NO ONE’s SURPRISE, REIGNING NHL MVP Nikita Kucherov is a “GO” for Tampa Bay for tonight’s Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals. Team captain and #2 scorer Steven Stamkos is said to be OUT FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES, though GM BriseBois says his status for the Stanley Cup Finals (should the Lightning advance) is not known at this point. And, speaking of “POINT,” young Braden Point will again be relied upon to pick up much of the slack created by Stamkos’ absence. Line mate Ondreg Palat also will need to have a big series if Tampa Bay is to defeat this outstanding Islanders team.
Game Time is 8:00 PM on MSNBC, Channel 220 on DIRECTV.
Stanger if the CT travel restrictions are still in place I don’t think I can make a fest but who knows what October will look like
Part of the many complications. Ironic that FL Gov Desantis was so proud of not letting in New Yorkers at one point. Now it is the other way around.
The only Floridians that want to go to New York are New Yorkers.
Then how does a Pig get home to the poke?
BBQ’ed
Churn that roster. Keep throwing guys into the grinder and see who comes out the other side. I like the philosophy. Like Gailey said: Good players make the difference. This team needed a talent injection. It should be interesting to see how things shake out over the next couple years. They’re bringing in bodies. Hopefully some of them end up being keepers. This roster is far from being set.
“It’s kind of like when the offense gives us a different formation, it’s the same thing with the defense, We’re giving them different looks so they can’t always tell who the fourth rusher is. Are we bringing five? Are we just rushing three?”
—- DL Coach Marion Hobby
Stanger: we are out as well.. still have a 14 Day self isolation on returning from out of country, and also from Eastern Canada… hoping shit changes soon enough for a tropical winter getaway but even that not looking good at this point…. sucks
Can’t wait for the opener. Want see the new team and see how it progresses.
Is it safe to say we’re going to be pretty good on STs?
I can see us starting off 2-4 maybe 3-3 and then having a run here and there. I won’t be surprised if we’re pretty good and even make the playoffs. We’ll be better in the 2nd half of the season unless we’re depleted by injuries.
A TAMPA AREA sports commentator wondered if the Lightning would be rusty after not playing a game for a full week. Well he got his answer quickly as the Bolts ran off 3 quick goals in the first period, sending NYI starting goalie Greiss to the bench and replacing him with Varlamov, who has also given up 3 goals!! This game resembles the 7-1 ass-kicking Tampa Bay laid on Boston in round 2!! Tampa Bay will be 11-3 over all in the 3 playoff rounds after tonight’s unexpected blow-out win.
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Game 2 of the VGK vs. Dallas series is tomorrow night. I expect the Golden Knights to even this series at a game each with a solid victory.
Boston collapsed for whatever reason. They were the top dogs before the season was suspended and then got outplayed by the Flyers and the Lightning in the round robin and playoffs.
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It looks to me that Godchaux, Wilkens and Davis will be our main big men up front, with Lawson and Ogbah on the edges, and Baker, Van Noy, Van Ginkel, Grugier-Hill, Roberts and Eguavoen as the LBs.
There will be some mix and match and other DL mixing in as usual, but this is what I see as our core front 7.
Looking forward to seeing it. 🙂
Depth chart is out, Kindley gets the start at RG, I would assume he beat out Dieter, Davis at RT beating out Hunt and Jackson at LT. That;s 2 rookies starting on our OL
https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/MIA
That depth chart isn’t quite right. No shot Jerome Baker isn’t starting
Deiter has been working as the backup center from what I’ve been hearing. Not sure he was competing at RG.
Mack Hollins made the team, Wentz said the guy is a little strange personality wise, the eagles dumped him last november, picked in the 4th rnd hasnt produced for them, he’s a big possession type rec who may be a great slot guy.
we shall see, he must have talent to make the 53.
In Phil he wasn’t used as much more than a blocking WR. Easy to see why Wentz didn’t throw to him. He didn’t do much for us last year after we claimed him off of waivers. Wondering if he’s not long for the 53.
4.53 40, but got hurt during his run, thought to be a 4.53 guy.
Somebody saw something with him. Maybe a 6’4″ WRs are coveted by us more than we think.
Our cap is down to 16.45M. We took a 5M hit for Rosen, 2M for the PS and a little for guys Like Raekwon and Adrian Colbert.
Fricken paywall!
Typical Belicheat, praise your opponent, but don’t really say anything.
Open it in Incognito tab. Bypasses the paywall
Cool, I just tried that on a herald article and it worked. Thanks.
The amassed knowledge on this board could probably build a rocket.
As reported by the NY Times, up to 90% of the positive tests for covid have such a small amount of the disease, that they shouldn’t have been counted.
Took me a minute to translate, but interesting. I wonder what the threshold is for detection and for actually being sick. Whether it is something that most people have already, but are mostly unaffected, like people with cold sores. Lots of people have the virus that carries them, but that doesn’t mean their lips are falling off all the time.
So anyone here to defend the BLM thugs who assaulted the elderly couple in the Pittsburgh restaurant?
It’s your democratic party.
Yes, I do! It’s reparations dammit! You see the report from CNN that 93% of BLM protests have been peaceful? Nevermind those cities that are burning, that’s an unfortunate by product of peaceful protesting!
Do you consider the guy who shot up the pizza joint or the Charlotesville protesters the GOP? Idiots on both sides.
more idiots on the left
Stanger are you trying to compare a couple of isolated incidents with what is going on in these dem cities for months? I’m pretty sure the right condemned them. Why won’t the left condemn BLM?
Some on the right might have condemned bu t my Pres said there were good people on both sides.
It’s irrelevant, because Trump Tweeted have a nice day🤔
I didn’t throw the punch that hard!
I have right clicked and used “open link in incognito window” to defeat paywall, not sure if it still works.
what’s even worse is the democratic party supports this anarchy.
a simple case of vote for me or else!
Biden said, if he doesn’t win the protest will continue, but that’s just Joe, being Joe, so…joe
You listened to any of the Trump commercials lately? Apparently if we don’t elect him the some really, really bad things are gonna happen. So seems a two-street on that strategy.
Those bad things are already happening, and the left run cities don’t want to stop them. How do you feel about that?
steve — feel that inner city unrest has been a problem my whole life. But now people act like it is new.
I’m pretty sure you’re the only one that thinks what’s going on now is comparable to the untested your entire life, but that wasn’t the question.
Well if I am the only one who thinks that then I am. Maybe you are too young to remember the Rodney King riots. Canceled classes at my school cause were spreading nationwide.
Stanger – The Democratic party has stood right behind and outwardly supports the BLM organization. There’s no disputing that. Not sure what you’re saying.
Really Mike? Did they actually bow down to them in a formal setting or something?
Yes!
I’m just cause one idiot who is part of a group does something that it does not mean all members of that group support it. One-third of the country is Dem and one-third GOP. Every time either a Dem or Republican does something nasty does that mean the party approves of that action?
But the left does approve of BLM. How do you feel about that? I guess you take that as rhetorical, since you won’t answer, so you must approve of BLM too.
I think the BLM is fairly extremist, or at least the extreme parts of it are. Others want to go the MLK way, which I respect even if don’t agree 100% with the policy objectives. Sometimes I think you forget I’m a Republican.
Sometimes I think you forget you’re a Republican. MLK was trying to get equal rights, totally different than the anarchy and Marxism that BLM is working on.
I was talking the MLK non-violent way, not policy. I’ve written before about the BLM stuff around here. Daytime is the MLK way and then when the rally is over the bad stuff happened. I think that more about hooligans who saw their chance than BLM organizing it.
Why does it matter what you do in the day, if you’re burning and looting at night?
On the sexual offender: well he was so nice to everyone of us. I didn’t think he could do that.
The problem is an anarchist group is using a social justice issue to push their Marxists ways. Why would any SJW stand with them? Ignorance, or gas lighted who knows.
I’m totally for the MLK way, and I’m sure some people in BLM and others that support it believe it could be that way, but I think as a whole, they’ve proven they’re not. That’s why I can’t get behind that movement. I’m all for black rights, but I don’t think the police are the biggest problem. Once they can come to grips that they have been their own worst enemy, they can change things for the better.
Don’t support BLM but do support the right of the people in it to air their grievances and protest. Figure that’s what democracy is about. Now when them doing that leads to chaos….. I would crack down. But then the chaos part is only in a couple places at this point.
But yeah they have a whole lot more to deal with than just police shootings. They do galvanize their communities though.
But the people protesting have aligned with BLM as have the left.
If Trump didn’t disavow the KKK, even without having anything to do with them. The MSM would be all over his ass, and put the country in an uproar, yet when the left does worse it’s no problem. Why?
BLM = KKK
Stanger – …”does that mean the party approves of that action?” It does when they do nothing to stop it, actively encourage it, and never denounce it. When you vote for Biden/Harris in November that is exactly what you are voting for. Racism, anarchy, violence and lawlessness.
You seen how many prominent Republicans have said they will vote for Racism, anarchy, violence and lawlessness? Never seen anything like it in my 50+ years. Must be something new in the water.
Establishment Republicans are worse than Democrats that back that, because they’re corrupt.
Why does John Kasich voting for Biden make him corrupt? Not asking you to agree with his choice but do you think he’s getting paid for it?
I’ve seen a few that have been voted out or retired say they were voting democrat. Have seen any sitting representatives say that. Could have missed one though. They all have one thing in common…they are part of the DC political establishment.
Phelon — a whole lot more than a few. Lincoln Project is out there bashing Trump better than Biden does…… and they are hardcore conservative GOP folks. And no the sitting folks don’t do that, but Romney and Murkowski did. When’s the last time saw sitting Senator’s say might not vote for their party’s candidate?
Steve – No difference between democrat and republican establishment.
Stanger – Kasich is a Never Trumper and part of the clique. I don’t hear him condemning anything going on either. To appropriate a phrase – Political Silence is Violence.
Ever heard of NeverReagan or NeverBush? Sorta of my point. But Trump did a takeover of the GOP. If he doesn’t win in November gonna be interesting to see what happens. Whole thing could break apart.