WR Corps suffer legitimate depth issues with 2 COVID-19 opt outs

Many of you here didn’t really value the services of one Allen Hurns, and maybe I’m on the side of overrating him, but Hurns was on target to be the starter opposite DeVante Parker at least into training camp. If Preston Williams proved he was healthy and battle ready then it’s possible Hurns slipped down the depth chart as he was replaced by the younger, more explosive Williams. IN any case, Hurns was a veteran receiver with AFC experience and one that thrived playing opposite a very talented receiver in Allen Robinson in Jacksonville. Never as much of a big play threat as Robinson, Hurns was a steady, reliable , professional possession receiver. Albert Wilson looked like he was almost all the way back last season, especially towards the end of the season. The last 3 games he caught 17 passes which is nearly half of his season’s production of 41 receptions. He had the lowest YPC average of his career at 8.1 and only one TD but the hip injury that cut his 2019 season short really took its toll on the receiver as he finally worked his way back. I do recall seeing a couple of plays at the end of the year where his explosiveness resembled the player of 2019 where he was turning nothing into something big routinely.

Before the opt outs, I felt like we had a very strong WR room with serious depth and a nice mix of youth and veterans. Parker is 27, Wilson 28 and Allen Hurns 28, along with young up and comers like Preston Williams (23), Gary Jennings (23), Isaiah Ford (24), Malcolm Perry (23) and Jakeem Grant who is now 27. If Preston Williams is ready he takes Hurns spot on the outside opposite Parker. Which receiver or receivers get to thrive in the slot? Jakeem Grant will be in the running as will Gary Jennings and 7th RD draftee Malcolm Perry. Grant has the speed and explosiveness Wilson had but not the size, Grant (5’6 171) is about 25 lbs lighter and doesn’t have the run power to break tackles like Wilson did. Gary Jennings is a little less speedy and explosive but has good size at 6’1 216. Jennings ran a 4.42 at the combine and put up 20 reps so he has some upper body strength. Malcolm Perry is closest size wise and elusiveness to Wilson but doesn’t have the top speed that Wilson had. Perry ran 4.63 40 at the combine. If you watch Perry play though, he always looks fast enough and is a very slippery runner. The Dolphins signed Colts WR Chester Rogers to a 1YR deal which deepens the depth a little. Rogers caught 53 passes in 2018, just 16 last year playing behind WR Zach Pascal.

The biggest concern I have about our WR’s, or really any unit on our team is the depth. If we’ve learned anything by watching MLB, NBA or NHL in 2020 in the year of COVID-19 is that players drop like flies. One second they’re on the team and the next they’re on COVID-19 protocol. Add in the usual NFL injuries, especially considering this year with a huge lack of practices and no preseason games and you will likely see how important good depth will be. I’d even question whether the league will be able to play a full season. We’re going to have to count on a bunch of our deeper depth players this season and I hope we get them all ready for action. When Chan Gailey was with the Jets in 2015-2016, he utilized Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker mostly, with a decent amount of passing to the RB’s Chris Ivory and Bilal Powell. In 2016 Decker was gone after 3 games and replaced by Quincy Enunwa and the offense didn’t really feature a slot WR much. Robby Anderson provided the deep threat on the outside and again, the RB’s, now Matt Forte and Bilal Powell caught a bunch of passes. Jordan Howard isn’t much of a pass catcher but Matt Breida is a good receiver out of the backfield who was stifled by playing time in a 3 headed attack in SF with Raheem Mostert and Tevin Coleman and also CJ Beathard. Malcolm Perry may also get some use out of the backfield and Kalen Ballage was thought to be a good receiver although he didn’t get to show any of those skills here in MIA. Patrick Laird and Kenyan Drake caught the most passes at RB. In any case, one thing we’ll probably have to get used to in 2020 is NEXT MAN UP . . .

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2,262 Responses to WR Corps suffer legitimate depth issues with 2 COVID-19 opt outs

  1. steveccnv says:

    Ogbah with long ass arms.

  2. CavalierKong says:

  3. steveccnv says:

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  4. son of a son of a shula says:

    Curtis Weaver waived injured is likely done for the year. I think we retain his rights or whatever. Too bad he was interesting.

  5. steveccnv says:

    if Weaver clears waivers, he will be placed on the Miami Dolphins injured reserve list.

    So, Curtis Weaver could stick around on Miami Dolphins IR if unclaimed. And he’s got a pretty serious foot injury, league source confirms. Tough break for rookie.

  6. steveccnv says:

    according to the South Florida Sun Sentinel’s Omar Kelly. The injury appears to be a shoulder or upper torso issue, according to Kelly and occurred when Van Noy was conducting one-on-one drills with rookie offensive tackle Robert Hunt. Van Noy seemed to slip as he was engaging Hunt, who pancaked him onto the turf. Van Noy immediately signaled for trainers after the play but was able to walk into the training facility on his own.

    Well that’s a relief Omar, that he was able to walk off on his own, was wondering, if he was able to do that with an injured shoulder🤔

  7. Mike E. says:

    Disappointed about Weaver. Damn, I had some big expectations for that guy

  8. son of a son of a shula says:

    If at any point we lose three games in a row that’s when we will see the future. The future is Tua bright to ignore.

  9. D says:

    Did Weaver suffer a lisfranc?

    • D says:

      Extremely odd we waive a guy we just drafted over an injury unless that injury might be career threatening.

      • D says:

        Either there is more to the story or that shit is going to take a long long time to recover from. Lisfranc can be one of those things, since it tends to linger for years. Devante didnt have lisfranc but he did have a foot ligament injury and that shit kept him from fully being able to perform for better part of 2 years. Barrett out of Alabama was a big time OC, won the Remington award in college, was on 2 national championships, got a lisfranc injury at the end of the year, barely got drafted, and has never fully recovered. NFL career went poof.

  10. D says:

    Weaver seemed tpo me to be a Flores guy, hard worker, solid rounded skill-set that can be moved around as needed, so either we are way off base believing that or that shit is bad, im really disappointed to see that, but we dont have a track record of letting an injury make us cut a guy loose. I mean if we are confident enough that he wont get poached off of the waiver wire, then his injury has to be something thats gonna keep him out a year plus, maybe 2.

  11. steveccnv says:

    5th round picks are also semi-longshots to be anything more than JAGs, but I think Weaver could’ve had a Godchaux type career.

  12. wyoming85 says:

    Maybe it’s scrimmage day?

  13. D says:

    Rookies can be IR’d directly, they have to be cut, pass through waivers and then be put on IR. Thats part of the reason he was cut, is if they were going to try to IR him, they had to. Vets can go directly to IR without being cut. Now that said, thats if they wanted to IR him right now, they could have put him on PUP and evaluated him more, they could have done nothing and let him hold a spot while they made a decision, so there is more to the decision to go straight to cut/IR route and my guess is that the injury means that no one is going to be able to use him this year or possibly even next. They had a lot of other option on how to handle it, so its gotta be bad.

  14. steveccnv says:

    That doesn’t make any sense. We didn’t cut Raekwon his rookie season, we put him on IR.

  15. stangerx says:

    steve — maybe 15-year-old girls do have power. Remember the Conway girl who said she was going to emancipate? Yesterday Kellyann Conway left her White House Post and Dad George Conway stepped down from the NeverTrump Lincoln Project. Hissy fit worked.

    • steveccnv says:

      Of course they have power, but I said she’ll be coming back home in her 20s with her tail between her legs.

      That must be some family with the parents on the polar opposites politically.

      • stangerx says:

        I’m predicting that the parents will be co-writing a book. And if they do will be a bestseller. Was saying that before what the daughter is doing came out. Now even more story .

      • steveccnv says:


        These FN people always have an angle on making money.

        If they are writing a book, I wonder how much of their squabbles the last couple of years is BS?

      • stangerx says:

        I could never figure out how Kellyanne kept her job while George was out there bashing Trump left and right. Or for that matter how their marriage stayed together. Always imagined if I was skewering my wife’s boss all over the national press.

  16. steveccnv says:

    Come on man😉

    Injured Reserve (IR)
    NFL teams are permitted to place any number of players on Injured Reserve at the start of the season. Any player on the IR list counts against the salary cap, but not against the 53-man roster limit. These players are ineligible to play again for the same team during the current season, but they can be cut and then go on to sign with another team. These players may not practice with their team at any time, but can attend team meetings and be around the team. Last year for the first time the NFL changed the IR rules to allow for two NFL players from each team to be eligible to come off IR after eight weeks of being on the list…

  17. stangerx says:

    Evangelicals just ain’t what they used to be. Wonder what the students at Liberty U think.
    The pool attendant Jerry Falwell Jr. claimed tried to extort him after having an affair with his wife revealed Monday that he was involved in a seven-year sexual relationship with the suspended Liberty University president and his spouse.

    In an explosive Reuters interview, Giancarlo Granda said his relationship with the couple began after they met in March 2012, when he was a 20-year-old employee at the Fontainebleau Miami Beach hotel. The now 29-year-old said that throughout the relationship, which ended in 2018, he would have sex with Falwell’s wife, Becki Tilley Falwell, in front of the evangelical leader.

    • D says:

      Never have put much faith in evangelicals to practice what they preach. Only one seemed like a very legit man, walked the holy line and that was Jimmy Graham. The rest, i dont think i can think of one that really makes me think good things.

      • stangerx says:

        My Mom’s parent rolled as holy as you can get. Talking Pentacosts. Some of it seemed harsh but least they and the rest of the flock practiced what was preached to them.

        But that was in the days before televanglism and super churches. Think the guys who end up with those are worried about other things many times. There’s that one dude out there saying he needs all those private planes to spread god’s word.

    • steveccnv says:

      Yes, evangelicals are big hypocrites, but like every place else there’s good people and bad. We seem to like to put people in groups, all evangelicals are good people, all mormons are good people, all dems…, all reps…that’s why we shouldn’t hate people for not being like ourselves. You can still like people with oppososite views as the Conways seem to be doing.

      • D says:

        Evangelical has such a broad meaning and there are so many people who classify as an evangelical that absolutely they are good people in that group, i guess i was more focused on the large evangelical church leaders, typically the ones that are televangelist. I am not a fan of those guys.

      • stangerx says:

        steve — that was really well said. Matches up with what I’ve found in life. Good or bad doesn’t come with some group tag….of whatever kind. And — even if you might hate it — includes politics. When was meeting politicians was far more about the person than red or blue.

  18. Phindog says:


    • stangerx says:

      Yo Dog. That didn’t kick in for me, but…… join the Toba FF League. Not difficult, fun and not much time.

  19. CavalierKong says:

    No news on the injuries to Van Noy and Imnotgoingtotryandspellhisname?

  20. CavalierKong says:

    — Outside linebacker Kyle Van Noy was held out of much of Tuesday’s practice, although he was dressed and wearing a brace on his right hand after leaving Monday’s session early. Van Noy did not participate in 11-on-11 drills, and ran on the opposite field to get some conditioning work.

    — Rookie cornerback Noah Igbinoghene returned after leaving Monday’s practice early with an injury, but his repetitions were limited after Nik Needham had a solid practice Monday. Needham continued to do so on Tuesday.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s great news on Van Noy. Without him I think we may struggle on D. He’s my glue player, you can see it in practice, they look up to him.

      Now Baker is on his own cloud, a lead by example kind, almost to a fault. Baker had a sack in a game last year where he ran through the QB, but was too busy showing off, that he wasn’t paying attention to the fumbled ball. If he does that this year, Van Noy will kick him in the ass.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I was glad to read that too. I agree with what you said yesterday after the injury was reported. He wasn’t carted off, and I’m not going to worry until they tell us it’s something bad. Still it’s good to see he was at practice, and it doesn’t appear he’ll miss too much time.

        The injury report is filling up with guys, but all the injuries, sans Biegel, are the banged up type of injuries, which you’d expect with as physical as we’re reading practices have been.

        Good news all around!

  21. CavalierKong says:

    — Safety Kavon Frazier is back with the team after missing several practices due to personal reasons.

    — Second year running back Patrick Laird, who suffered an upper-body injury Monday, did not practice. Receiver Kirk Merritt, an undrafted rookie out of Arkansas State, also did not practice.

    — Receiver Ricardo Louis and tight end Nate Weiting left practice with injuries.

  22. CavalierKong says:

    — Dolphins cornerback Xavien Howard worked out on the sidelines away from teammates as he continues to inch toward a return.

    — Howard is also on the physically unable to perform list as he continues to rehabilitate from knee surgery at the end of last season.

    — Wide receivers Preston Williams and Jakeem Grant did not practice. Williams was due to have some scheduled rest days as he works his way back from ACL surgery. Grant, however, was held out of the later portions of practice on Monday due to an injury.

  23. CavalierKong says:

    The Miami Dolphins are having open auditions to determine who serves as the team’s in-line tight end in Chan Gailey’s offense, and newcomer Adam Shaheen deserved a standing ovation for his performance during Tuesday’s practice.

    Shaheen, who the Dolphins traded a 2021 conditional pick to Chicago to acquire last month, scored two touchdowns during Miami’s 11-on-11 periods, which featured plenty of goal-line work.

    Shaheen, who has started 13 of the 27 NFL games he’s played in the past three seasons, is competing with Durham Smythe and Chris Myarick to determine who gets paired with Mike Gesicki as the tight end who works on the line of scrimmage.

  24. CavalierKong says:

    Stock Up
    Raekwon Davis had his role elevated during Tuesday’s practice, which focused on goal-line work, and the former Alabama standout was a wrecking machine.

    Davis, who at 6 foot 7, 330 pounds is the Dolphins’ most imposing defensive lineman, moved all over the line and evidently gave every offensive lineman trouble.

    It will be interesting to see if Davis can push Davon Godchaux or Christian Wilkins for the starting spot over the next three weeks before the Sept. 13 season opener against the New England Patriots….

    Shaheen seems to be adjusting to the new offense, and has been making more plays during practice the past few days. Keep in mind that he hasn’t had the same amount of time to learn Miami’s defense as the rest of the team because he hasn’t been on Miami’s roster for a full month.

    • steveccnv says:

      Would be great to see Raekwon starting, it means he’s biting as a pup. In the big picture the playing time is all that matters, and who ever of the 3 doesn’t start will see plenty of PT.

      Seems we’ve had several rookies biting, Kindley, Jackson, Davis, Tua, Iggy, and Perry.

    • stangerx says:

      6 foot 7, 330 pounds is hard to argue with. Guessing he tires out fairly quick though. Interesting how big we are building when we face the heat.

  25. CavalierKong says:

    Stock Down
    Eric Rowe’s transformation from cornerback to safety hasn’t been a smooth one, and there have been practices where the fifth-year veteran has struggled. Tuesday was probably his worst day as Shaheen scored on him twice in the goal-line sessions.

    Rowe was trailing on plenty of plays, and if he doesn’t improve Kavon Frazier or Brandon Jones, the rookie from the University of Texas, may unseat him at starting strong safety….

    It is hard to tell if Gary Jennings is even practicing because he’s been such a non-factor in training camp thus far. On a day when Jakeem Grant was missing from the receiver rotation because of injuries, Jennings got more involved in practice but seemingly struggled getting open. It’s apparent the former West Virginia standout doesn’t have chemistry with any of Miami’s quarterbacks.

  26. Mike E. says:

    D – I’m not completely sure about the designations for the new CBA but the Dolphins didn’t put him on IR, they waived/injured which I think is different. I understand you think you have to waive a player first but that just seems so unlikely. No way you’re going to do that with a 1st or 2nd RD or even 3rd RD pick so then what are your options? I think they’re two totally different designations

  27. stangerx says:

    This is a real sad way to go. Back of the police car was designed not to let people out.

    A Florida police officer’s wife died after becoming trapped in the back of his patrol vehicle for several hours during a hot afternoon, police said Monday.

    Aristides Paulino, 58, who works for the city of Miami, was asleep in the couple’s Miami Shores home Friday afternoon after finishing a midnight shift. Clara Paulino climbed into the backseat of his marked SUV to find something when the doors somehow closed, and a self-locking mechanism engaged, officials said.

    Temperatures reached over 90 degrees Fahrenheit (32 degrees Celsius) as Paulino spent about four hours stuck inside the SUV until her family discovered her body

  28. CavalierKong says:

    Top Performers
    1. DE Emmanuel Ogbah owned the left side of the defensive line, consistently applying pressure and jumping in the quarterback’s passing lane. Ryan Fitzpatrick had to pump fake Ogbah on one play to stop the projected starter from deflecting a pass during Miami’s hurry-up period.

    2. Offensive lineman Adam Pankey has been pushing his way up the Dolphins’ depth chart. The second-year lineman has the versatility to play both guard and tackle. He’s holding his own in practice and seems to be pushing his way up the depth chart.

    3. Andrew Van Ginkel is getting an extended audition at roving linebacker, serving as one of the replacements for Kyle Van Noy, who sat out Tuesday’s practice because of an injury to his hand, which is in a cast. Van Ginkel did a nice job setting the edge and batted down at least one pass at the line of scrimmage.

  29. CavalierKong says:

    A day after throwing three touchdown passes, Tua Tagovailoa had fewer opportunities to throw but was decent, his day including two TD passes in red zone drills (to Myles Gaskin and Matt Breida) but also an interception by linebacker Andrew Van Ginkel, who batted the ball and then caught it.

    Meanwhile, presumptive starter Ryan Fitzpatrick was at his quintessential streaky best – putting together a day that included seven consecutive incomplete passes at one point but then producing four consecutive touchdowns (one run, three passes) in team red zone drills. That’s Fitzy for you!

    One common theme for all three quarterbacks: They faced heavy pressure, with Emmanuel Obgah and Jason Strowbridge among those generating a strong pass rush. At least six passes were batted down.

  30. CavalierKong says:

    In his first 11 on 11 series in team drills, Tagovailoa completed a 20-yard pass to Rogers, with Deatrick Nichols in coverage, and then threw incomplete on a ball that was off target.

    On his next 11 on 11 series, Tagovailoa was sacked by the rookie Strowbridge, who beat rookie offensive lineman Robert Hunt; and then overthrew Rogers for an incomplete pass.

    A short time later, Tagovailoa threw a beautiful 15-yard pass to receiver Ricardo Louis on his third 11-on- 11 series under center. But safety Bobby McCain sacked Tagovailoa soon after that.

    Later, in red zone drills, Tagovailoa had a pass broken up by cornerback Breon Borders (who has done good work in the past week) and then was forced to throw the ball away when Strowbridge blitzed him.

    But then Tagovailoa passed to Gaskin for a four-yard touchdown on a bootleg, with Gaskin continuing his work good in camp.

    With Tagovailoa again behind center in red zone drills, Tagovailoa then threw to Breida for a short touchdown, with Noah Igbinhoghene in coverage. But Van Ginkel then batted that Tagovailoa pass and intercepted it at the 1-yard line.

  31. CavalierKong says:

    As for Fitzpatrick, his first 11 on 11 work went thusly: He completed an intermediate pass to Mack Hollins (with Nick Needham in coverage), then completed a short pass to running back Matt Breida (who should be a factor in the passing game with his speed), then completed an intermediate pass to tight end Adam Shaheen, who made a one-handed catch with Needham playing him very tightly; then completed a screen to Jordan Howard; and had a pass tipped at the line.

    His second 11 on 11 work included a dump-off to Chandler Cox and an incomplete pass, with Needham doing an excellent job in coverage.

    And things went downhill for Fitzpatrick from there, albeit only for a time.

    That last play began a string of seven – seven! – consecutive incomplete passes from Fitzpatrick, with one of those batted down at the line.

    Another of those errant passes was a deep ball to Hollins. And another of those incomplete passes was Fitzpatrick simply throwing the ball away when facing a heavy pass rush.

    Fitzpatrick’s streak of incompletions finally ended with a five-yard completion to DeVante Parker. Then Fitzpatrick delivered a 14-yard TD pass to Shaheen, who had a very good day in his bid to stick as one of Miami’s three tight ends.

    Later, Van Ginkel batted down a Fitzpatrick pass at the goal line, but Fitzpatrick then ran a quarterback sneak for a touchdown.

    On the next red-zone series, Fitzpatrick got hot, completing three consecutive touchdown passes to Durham Smythe, Mike Gesicki and DeVante Parker (on a jump ball fade).

  32. CavalierKong says:

    ▪ Game officials were at practice for the first time. The first flag thrown was a holding penalty against safety Bobby McCain, who was trying to cover receiver Isaiah Ford. Later, left tackle Austin Jackson was flagged for holding against Shaq Lawson.

    ▪ Stop the presses: There’s positive Kalen Ballage news. He broke multiple tackles for a long run during one of the series handled by Tagovailoa.

    ▪ With Grant and Williams out, Rogers and Malcolm Perry returned punts. And Perry dropped one of those punts.

    Keep in mind he had a fumble (not on a return) on Monday and the drop on Tuesday. On the bright side, he also had the 69-yard TD catch from Tagovailoa on Monday and continues to show flashes as he learns the slot receiver position.

  33. Mike E. says:

    Love the updates Kong! Thanks!!

  34. steveccnv says:

    An OP ED from the NY post says that NY is dead. People are leaving in droves due to high taxes, sky high rents…

    • stangerx says:

      Sorta makes sense that rents in at least the high-end areas of NYC will go down in the digital age. People can work remotely now. And yeah taxes are high, but been that way for many years. Will still people who live in the city just to live in the city though.

      • steveccnv says:

        Lots of stuff going on there, none good. They’re trying to put in a wealth tax, .5% over 30M.

        People with money have had enough.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      That’s the NY post for you

      Rents are actually going down right now – substantially. Market rents are going down bc of vacancies. The vacancies rate is at about 11% which is very high – but it’s not what people think. It may be remote work bc of Covid but I actually think it’s a set of laws that passed in 2019 that lead landlords to hold onto to vacant rent stabilized apartments (that’s to difficult to even try to explain)

      Taxes aren’t much higher than they were 10 or 20 years ago in nyc per se

      Generally you can make a lot more money than most states without income tax bc of the nature of the economics here

      But in the grand scheme of things the sales state tax is 4% which is pretty low, it’s not like CA which has a high income and sales tax. The city adds some to that though so you get closer to 9% in nyc on sales tax

      People left during the heart of Covid and people aren’t moving in like they usually do during the summer bc it’s not over and it’s not like people have to be close to work or that there are new jobs to be had

      People aren’t moving to nyc bc you can’t live the lifestyle you had pre Covid19 in any city. I don’t expect that to last

      But the vacancy rate is probably more related to the Housing stability and protection act of 2019 and the inability to increase the rents for rent stabilized apartments when they become vacant like building owners used to be able to do

      I doubt leaving the city has anything to do with rents or taxes

      Ny state is a different story bc the nature of building ownership and rent changed dramatically in 2019

      • steveccnv says:

        Nice try

        The City Sales Tax rate is 4.5%, NY State Sales and Use Tax is 4% and the Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District surcharge of 0.375% for a total Sales and Use Tax of 8.875 percent.

        You know why people are leaving NY, those friggin taxes have always been sky high, and now they’re trying to jack them up even more. The mayor and gov have done a horrible job running the place.

        NYPD data shows 244 recorded shootings in the first seven months of 2020, up from 88 the year before.

  35. son of a son of a shula says:

    The move to waive/injured Weaver was to get out of the contract. Nobody is going to claim if he’s missing the season and be locked in on a rookie contract.

  36. CavalierKong says:

    “But in the grand scheme of things the sales tax is 4% which is pretty low, it’s not like CA which has a high income and sales tax”

    Our sales tax is absurd. We have some cities as high as 10+%. I’m in Sacramento County which is 7.75%

  37. son of a son of a shula says:

    The Browns claimed Weaver

    Believe that shit

    • steveccnv says:

      Weaver wasn’t making much, so I’d have to think it was a 2 year rehab and it’s not like we were going to reap any type of reward for him in the near future.

  38. pheloniusphish says:

    The lack of state income taxes is huge. That’s why so many nasty NY’ers and NE’ers buy houses in Florida and call it their primary residence. Even Virginia is ridiculous and it’s nowhere near as high as NY. The state income taxes that I won’t pay when I move my residence back to Florida essentially pays for the house I just bought in the Keys.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Don’t forget to register to vote down there

    • stangerx says:

      Phelon — had to work hard to get my wife to move to FLA. One of my pitches was we’d have a roommate named Mitch. Who we’d never see. And our buddy Mitch is an accountant. We never see him but he is a trooper who goes to work each day and hands each paycheck to us. Good dude.

  39. stangerx says:

    All you guys talking about how high taxes are also have to consider how much higher salaries are in NYC, Boston, Seattle, or San Fran, etc. Isn’t the most important part how much you have after the taxes are paid?

    • The Flying Pig says:


      We don’t need to advertise it.

      At this point. I don’t care if people believe what they believe anymore

      It’s just crazy now…

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Piggy – Way. Ack when (2005) when I was making $85K a year in northern VA I got a job offer in San Jose for $125K. When I crunched the numbers I had to turn it down because I couldn’t to live in San Jose the way I lived in Virginia.

        If you are willing to pay more for for less to live there and you can convince yourself the advertised coolness is worth it, rock on.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      The higher paychecks are not commensurate with the higher taxes and the higher cost of living. You can live more comfortably on $75K/yr in Florida than you can on $150k/yr in a the California ay area.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I don’t know about Florida, but in CA it’s all about location. Bay Area, yeah good luck making enough there. But in Sacramento we live very comfortably in a six figure household.

        IMO, the bigger problem here is the wage gap. It’s hard for youngins or unskilled to make a livable wage with rent and tax being astronomical. But skilled workers make more than. I get paid far more here than I would in most places, and it give us a comfortable life.

        All that being said doesn’t necessarily invalidate your point though. I’ve never lived in Florida, so I can’t compare. I might find even getting paid less, we’d have a ton more disposable income in FL.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        People can live for $2 a month day in some parts of the world too

        But it’s harder to get ahead in those places bc there is no industry around you to support growing

        People choose to love in urban areas with higher taxes bc most of the time it makes sense economically when you look at the bottom line

        To each their own
        But there are plenty of variables to consider

        Paying lower state taxes might work in the sports world where everyone plays in the same league anyway – but in the rest of the world there are quite a few industries that do substantially better in urban areas

      • CavalierKong says:

        But skilled workers make *a lot more here*

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Same same. There are places in FL that $50 K is living the dream. Other places not so much. And places like the Keys were unskilled or beginning labor can’t afford to live a decent life.

  40. pheloniusphish says:

    Piggy as an attorney is it more advantageous in NY over Miami? Social life aspects aside.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      By about 1000%

    • The Flying Pig says:

      It’s a deeper pool of potential clients

      Those potential clients potentially have more money to spend

      They are used to paying more for it

      Billable rates are generally higher than a fla

      I mean even if it wasn’t more profitable, I probably could. Or do it bc my connections in my industry are here in nyc and it would be like starting all over somewhere else

      But there was a time when I considered trying to develop a fla practice and it just wasn’t worth it when it was said and done

  41. pheloniusphish says:

    Door is closed catch up later.

  42. Mike E. says:

    Fuck the Browns. Now I hope Weaver stays as soft as he looks and sucks ass his entire career. Fuck every ex-Dolphin for that matter!

  43. ocalarob says:

    Here we go again, another police shooting a black guy in Wisconsin! another hornets nest stirred.

    While i think the Floyd shooting was heinous and the cop/cops should be put away, this shooting was different. the guy was being commanded by the police to stop and he kept walking away, he walked around his car the cops following and yelling at him, he ignored them. when he opened the door and proceeded towards the car opening they shot him.

    how do they know what he’s doing? he could be reaching for a weapon, why didn’t he listen to the cops? that said why didn’t the cops have a non lethal force to stop him like a tazor?

    still all the BLM’s are up in arms about this giving them another excuse to riot.

    It’s all Trumps fault right?

    • bookman11 says:

      Exactly Rob, and now the rioting follows as is normal in today’s sad society, at least in democratic cities and states. The idiot democratic governor in our state condemned the shooting and the police before any investigation. We need Scott Walker back in Wisconsin.

  44. olddolphan says:

    JUST INFORMED THE DOLPHINS TICKET OFFICE that I wanted to roll-over my account (and my season’s ticket money I paid in January) to next season. HOPE they get that right!!!
    MEANWHILE, in response to YOUNG STANGER’s comments on the NHL/NBA method of the playoffs— the “bubble method,” vs. MLB’s very flawed system, I predicted the NFL would choose the worst and least reliable of the TWO systems.

    BINGO!!! Dozens of MLB players already have caught the Corona virus, causing major delays in the 60 game baseball season. The NHL, by contrast, has had ZERO cases of positive virus tests after thousands of tests have been given. Well, Steve Ross and his merry fellow owners can move foreward and let as many owners as want to actually allow fans to attend these sports venues. I think playing in the “hot spot” area of Miami is especially risky and destined to cause hundreds of persons to contract the virus during the length of the season. It’s stupid. It’s greedy. It’s unfortunate.

    However, I WILL NOT CATCH THIS DANGEROUS VIRUS AT ROSS’S PALACE, because I won’t be there to catch it. I’ll wait until September of 2021, when millions of Americans will already be vaccinated, to attend a live game. You all know I have a diminished immune system thanks to my bout with cancer. And my recent surgery did NOT improve that situation. Meanwhile, my beloved wife’s condition is not, and likely WILL NOT, get better. She relies on her husband to do more and more things for her. I take that obligation VERY SERIOUSLY, even more seriously than my commitment to the Dolphins. Life is full of choices. I HAVE TO make the right ones,

    I HOPE (and beliieve) the upcoming season for the Fins will be a successful one. I predict BOTH a winning season and a PLAYOFF SPOT are possible. But they’ll have to do it without my physical presence. Me, my wonderful wife, my sister and brother-in-law, Jim, will watch and enjoy it on TV. And when I DO RETURN in 2021, I hope I’ll see them hoisting a flag for their THIRD SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

    GO-O-O-O FINS!!

    • bookman11 says:

      So, NASCAR is an outdoor spectator sport and has allowed spectators and no sign of massive break outs. Is there a reason the NFL can’t do this? Spectator wise I mean

      • bookman11 says:

        By the way, Ross’s palace has been a testing site and a model for what needs to be done during this. They have been in the forefront… that is undeniable

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      All it takes is someone getting injured doesn’t even have to be here. Or a team that thinks they can upgrade, Gardner Minshew should be worried about Rosen.

    • ocalarob says:

      I read that about half way down and dumped it. it’s all speculation by Armando. I think Rosens handling the situation great. he’s just doing hiss thing trying to fit in, he’s not demanding a trade or being a distraction, Armando is reading between the lines, it’s fake news. we have a 35 year old QB that has arm strength issues, he can blow up at anytime, Tua doesn’t have the experience and rosen has the best arm on the team. it wouldn’t surprise me if he did get the nod in miami.

    • manitobafinfan says:

      Can Trainor say “5th round picks MATTER “ ??

  45. olddolphan says:

    LIGHTNING just took a 3-2 lead in the 3rd period of this outstanding playoff match. It’s been a pleasure to watch it!!

  46. olddolphan says:

    ONDREG PALAT SCORES the game-winner in OVERTIME as the Lightning tie-up their best-of-7 series at 1-1 with the Boston Bruins!! Got to walk the doggie and have a sip of my fav cabernet before hitting the sack.

    GO-O-O-O BOLTS!!!!

  47. ocalarob says:

    season 3.5 weeks away, can’t wait! it will be interesting to see flo 2 season, will miami be better? we have made some good moves.

  48. ocalarob says:

    how many of the 3 rookie ol draft picks will start? kindley hunt and jackson, all 3 hung out together at the combine. they seem to have a close relationship. we got Karras and flowers as well, that’s 5 new ol that are locks.

  49. D says:

    Oh and it wasn’t my take on the status of the waive/injured thing, thats what those reports said, i have no dog in this fight, i didn’t care about the status and felt it was they way you guys think it is, they just stated that it wasn’t so i was reporting what another site reported, actually multiple sites for that matter.

    • steveccnv says:

      Lol, they could’ve been clearer, and they sort of mislead, but…

      • D says:

        Im usually like you, skeptical about the source, thats why i usually have to see multiple places saying same thing, but then again, these days a lot of them its one source and a bunch of copies.

  50. D says:

    So just was looking through the CBA for 2020 to see what the official status is, and i found a few interesting things. This CBA, you get 4 more PS players, and you can protect up to 4 from being poached. That definitely changes some things as far as roster final 53’s if you have a guy who is iffy about being poached and another guy you like maybe equaklly or slightly more so that doesnt qualify for PS status, you can keep the no PS guy, and use the “no poach” designation on the other.

    Also appears that the active roster limit was upped to 48 from 46, with up to 8 of those that can be OL.

    • steveccnv says:

      Makes sense, since there’s no preseason, and would be nice, if they do that going forward, but players don’t like it and would likely revert the CBA back to what it was last year.

  51. steveccnv says:

    I just read fansided’s post season picks, these U75s are unbelieveable, in that no one seems to have figured out there is 3 wildcards this year. I read several other articles and everyone talks about 2 WCs.

    So I’m like didn’t the 3 WCs get confirmed? I had to dig deep to find that there will be 3.

    • D says:

      Yeah, i have seen a few articles that they refer to things that have changed as if they have not changed, and thats generally when i either assume its an outdated article or its outdated info and quit reading.

      • steveccnv says:

        And yet it’s not outdated, SMH at them, like they have something better to do these days bunkered down. Stupid is as…

  52. steveccnv says:

    The decision to waive rookie fifth-round pick Curtis Weaver with an injury designation caught a lot of attention in South Florida, but what it means has been misrepresented.

    In short, the Dolphins basically decided Weaver simply wasn’t worth keeping around.

    • steveccnv says:

      After we drafted Weaver I watched his game tape and said this guy sucks, he’s slower than shit, and can’t stop the run, but does get to the QB, mostly against weak competition.

      And you guys blasted me🤔

  53. D says:

    I personally would rather them shorten the playoffs and only have 1 WC. Division winners, and one WC to round it out and i also think they should get rid of the first round bye. Puts more pressure on being a good team during the season, i mean when your strategizing on which WC you want to be to get the best match up, or strategizing a win or a loss to gain a better position, i think its dumb. If you make the number of positions more limited, you get teams pushing themselves to win every game, because it may take you nearly winning your division just to get in, if not winning it.

  54. steveccnv says:

    So how would that work out for the first round of the playoffs, 4 div winners and 1 WC😉

    • D says:

      Well i guess they do have to do a first round bye. I guess i shoulda taken an extra general math class in school. Fuck it just do div winners.

      • D says:

        Alternately they could just get rid of AFC South and NFC South for being shit divisions and then they could have the WC back.

  55. Tim Knight says:

    I saw on the NFLN that the Browns claimed DE Curtis Weaver off waivers and I was like wow we cut him already.

    Steve, I had those discussions with you about Weaver but didn’t blast you. I just didn’t see slow in the videos I watched. However you seem to be right about the level of competition and that he has a soft body. Scouting reports about him was that he doesn’t have a football body and is really one dimensional as an edge rusher not offering much against the run. So props to you. 🙂

    • D says:

      I dunno, something made them cut ties instead of work it out. My guess is its Lisfranc injury, but with the Browns scooping him up so quick, maybe its not that bad. That injury has ended a lot of careers. Maybe due to weight, but OL seem particularly unlikely to heal from it.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah I just read Weaver is having surgery and will be out for the year. It didn’t mention the injury though. But why cut him and not take a look at him again next year, unless they just didn’t see it in him?

  56. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    Durham Smythe Wednesday August 26 media availability thread
    11:02 AM · Aug 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    It’s an important part of the game, it’s a role I’ve fulfilled dating back to my college days. You throw yourself into the O-line with regards to not getting the recognition.”

    Smythe on playing an unheralded role as more of a blocking TE.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Durham says that he and Gesicki both took a step back to identify how they can help the offense outside of the things they do well. He talked to Mike about his releases and routes. Gesicki talked to Durham about his work in the nitty gritty run game.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Durham says he and Mike balance each other well in terms of what they’re good at. The narrative tells you he’s going to be in the inline blocker and Mike is going to be the pass catcher — but coming into year three he thinks both players can become more versatile.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    “Tua has a great arm, that’s evident to anyone that watches him.”

  57. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    Nik Needham media availability for Wednesday August 26
    10:53 AM · Aug 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Needham says a big focus for him was getting in better condition/shape this offseason. Says he entered camp last year not quite ready for the heat and the grind but feels much further along this year.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Byron Jones is a great example, Needham says. Calls him intellectual, gives the rest of the guys smart tips, approaches everything with the same, intense, professional demeanor.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Needham said nutrition has been a big focus for him — referenced Chad Ochocinco eating McDonald’s, said he quickly learned that wasn’t going to work for him.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    “You can be draped all over guys (like Preston and DeVante) and the QB is still gonna trust them. You have to be good at playing the hands. Just because you’re all over a guy doesn’t mean they’re covered.”

    Needham on what he’s learned from facing strong competition.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    The Dolphins defenders get “points” every time they get their hands on the ball — big emphasis.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Needham says he failed his first conditioning test last year and it was kind of a joke with guys calling him fat, having a gut at DB, things like that. Called it embarrassing. Says that really inspired him to never be in anything less than peak shape.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    “Physical, always willing to learn and a a great teammate.” Needham explains what rookie CB Noah Igbinoghene brings.

  58. bailbondmike says:

    Damn this hurricane! Wyoming, prayers are with you and you family. Be safe!

  59. D says:

    steveccnv says:
    August 26, 2020 at 12:04 pm

    The decision to waive rookie fifth-round pick Curtis Weaver with an injury designation caught a lot of attention in South Florida, but what it means has been misrepresented.

    In short, the Dolphins basically decided Weaver simply wasn’t worth keeping around.
    I remember wanting to take Prince Tega because that was the pick where i realized he was still on the board. Still i knew we needed some more pass rush depth too so i was ok with the pick. Dont know that i really studied Weaver much, i remember looking at him some but he wasn’t big on my list of players,and in general i like to take pass rush earlier than 5th. I also wanted to go really heavy on the OL this draft, which we pretty much did, literally and figuratively.

  60. wyoming85 says:

    Ah It’s ok fella’s!
    We are up at a friends place!
    got the camper and my wife!

    The best conversation on how we are going to rebuild is going on!

    Ike taught us that it’s just stuff! You can buy more!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • CavalierKong says:

      Best of luck, Wyo. Good to know you and yours are safe. Hopefully your place comes through unscathed as well.

    • stangerx says:

      Ah Shit Wyoming — just caught that Laura might hit as a Cat 4. That’s serious stuff. Hope it moves fast and past your place quickly.

  61. wyoming85 says:

    Had to go get a “Hot Spot” this morning to get back online!

  62. Tim Knight says:

    I wonder how UDFA DE/OLB Tyshun Render is doing? He looks the part, but his game might not be enough.

  63. CavalierKong says:


    The Jest and Gase are a mess, but this guy Bell is never happy.

  64. CavalierKong says:

    ▪ This was by far the most uneventful practice of camp, with no more than 20 total snaps in full team (11 on 11) drills and no explosive passing plays.

    But there was, once again, a quarterback Tua Tagovailoa highlight. On one play, he scrambled 18 yards up the middle, avoiding two defenders.

    The fact Tagovailoa has regained his mobility nine months after major hip surgery is very encouraging. One of his Alabama-based doctors, Lyle Cain, said the CAT scan of his hip was “perfect.”

    The Dolphins have felt comfortable enough with his hip — and his mobility — to use plays that maximize his ability to move inside and outside the pocket.

    Later, Tagovailoa completed a screen to Chandler Cox for a 25-yard gain.

    But neither he nor Ryan Fitzpatrick nor Josh Rosen threw many passes during the lightest practice day of camp.

  65. Tim Knight says:

    Wishing everyone dealing with the hurricanes the best.

  66. CavalierKong says:

    This from Jackson, Beasley and Mando:

    Cornerback Xavien Howard, who’s working on the side, remained on the COVID-19 list for a 15th consecutive day. He’s also still on the PUP list after December knee surgery.

    We know he’s still on the PUP, but didn’t we get news Xavien is off the Covid list? If he was on the COVID list, would he be allowed at practice? Gotta wonder about these reporters…

    • stangerx says:

      If he’s on it either he went back on, the reporting before was wrong, or the reporting now is. No other choices, but guess might not have been their reporting.

  67. CavalierKong says:

    I don’t know if Krishna is in the path as well. If so, hope you’re safe, bro.

  68. CavalierKong says:

    ▪ Kalen Ballage, battling for the No. 3 running back job, walked off the field slowly with trainers. Linebacker Sam Eguavoen also walked off, under his own power, with an undisclosed ailment.

    ▪ Receivers Jakeem Grant and Ricardo Louis, both dealing with injuries that aren’t too serious, worked on the exercise bike. Without Parker, Grant, Louis and Merritt on Wednesday, the Dolphins are having depth issues at wide receiver.

    But Preston Williams, off November’s ACL surgery, returned after a rest day on Tuesday. Williams and Parker have looked very good in camp.

    Isaiah Ford and Mack Hollins also have had some good moments in camp, and Chester Rogers has made a bunch of catches.

    Though Gary Jennings caught a touchdown from Tagovailoa on Monday, he has had a quiet camp and faces an uphill climb to stick. Speedy undrafted receiver Matt Cole is a candidate for the practice squad, which has expanded to 16 players this season.

    Coach Flores on Wednesday raised the possibility of keeping as many as seven receivers or as few as five. Six might be the most likely.

  69. CavalierKong says:

    ▪ Flores is using game officials to make practices resemble a game situation (at least in some ways and even without players tackling each other). And on Wednesday, right guard Solomon Kindley was flagged in 1 on 1 work against Davon Godchaux.

    ▪ Durham Smythe had a reception Wednesday and has had a solid camp. Tight ends coach George Godsey spoke last week about how valuable Smythe is in ways most people wouldn’t recognize or that show up in the box score.

    • Tim Knight says:

      A lot of people don’t realize how difficult it is to play TE in the NFL They have more assignments than any other position. Inline blocking acting as a 6th OL, being a receiving option, going in motion as a receiver, blocker, Fullback/H-back. I always notice how many roles TEs play in a game. And unless you’re a star, you’re playing STs too.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yep, usually they are really good at blocking or really good at receiving. It’s rare to find one who excels at both. There aren’t a lot of Gronk’s out there, but when you find one, ya keep him.

  70. CavalierKong says:

    ▪ Jason Sanders hit field goals from 47, 52 and 55 yards.

    Though the Dolphins had a FaceTime session with Georgia kicker Rodrigo Blankenship before the draft and researched him, they never made an offer after the draft and decided not to bring in competition for Sanders.

  71. CavalierKong says:

    ▪ The Dolphins are expected to be off on Thursday, then practice on Friday at team headquarters in Davie and then have a scrimmage on Saturday at Hard Rock Stadium. The opener is less than three weeks away, Sept. 13 at New England.

  72. Mike E. says:

    Be safe all of you folks who are in the target of the storms, I guess that means mostly Wyo and Krishna.

  73. CavalierKong says:

    This is still a new story, so don’t know if it has been confirmed. New allegations against Snyder and The Washington Football Team (lol) that Snyder had employees make secret videos of cheerleaders using compilation of footage during photo shoots that contained inadvertent exposures.


    • Tim Knight says:

      Seriously? WTF are people thinking, especially men who don’t think twice about how this type of shit is wrong? SMH

      • CavalierKong says:

        It’s pathetic. This might be enough for the NFL to oust Snyder, which I think they are probably doing everything they can to make that happen.

    • stangerx says:

      Wouldn’t doubt it for a second. As have made clear —- I really hate Snyder just from watching and reading about his moves when was in the DC area.

      Maybe should be more understanding to OD’s Ross hate….. cause have one of those too. 🙂

  74. CavalierKong says:

    X has been at practice riding a stationary bike, including today’s practice. If players are on the COVID list, can they be at practice?

    Maybe they can, and the original story about him coming off the list was wrong. IDK

  75. CavalierKong says:

    Not a lot of practice news today since it was a light day.

  76. Randy says:

    Everyone knew Curtis Weaver was a soft, finesse player who didn’t work very hard or put much, if any, effort into plays where he wasn’t rushing the passer. He showed a knack for getting to the QB at Boise State and that was about it…..so what changed? I’m confused as to why the Dolphins decide now that he isn’t a good fit. That was a terrible draft pick if they cut him due to anything other than an injury issue. What a waste of a pick.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He’s having some type of surgery and is out for the year. I don’t think there was anything wrong with drafting a guy who had a knack for getting to the QB in the 5th round when he had a 3rd/4th round grade. Every pundit during the draft was surprised Weaver was still on the board in the 5th round.

    • ocalarob says:

      they said he was a steal in the 5th rnd, they had to waive him.
      until the 1st cut down day, injured non vested players must be waived before going on IR, to prevent teams from stashing young players.
      see joe schad

  77. ocalarob says:

    Wow Laura is a cat 4 at 140 mph, still offshore, looks like it is headed directly for Houston, could be a cat 5 at landfall, good to hear you evacuated Wyoming.

  78. Tim Knight says:

    Wyo, sorry to hear the threat on your home is real. Wishing for the best, bro.

  79. ocalarob says:

    they say it will turn north, come in around beaumont texas, if you live in houston your home may be safe.

  80. ocalarob says:

    when i was living in S Fl i had a bunch of rental properties plus a home, i had to deal with this every year, went thru andrew … katrina, it is a shitty feeling to have to worry about a threat to your property, i had to deal with it every year.

  81. D says:

    Maybe it will peter out before it makes landfall since it coming across all those barrier islands near the heel of Louisiana

  82. Tim Knight says:

    Flyers played a solid 1st period. They’re up 3-0 and all three goals were skilled scores – two from Kevin Hayes and one from Sean Couturier who is one of the best 2-way forwards in the game. That guy plays every phase of the game.

    That said, the Isles are like a swarm of hornets and you have to play sound hockey or they can get back into this game. I have a lot of respect for the types of teams Lou Lamoriello puts together. His teams are always balanced and good. He’s arguably the best sports executive there is.

    Keep it going Philly!

  83. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 26, 2020 at 3:02 pm

    Seriously? WTF are people thinking, especially men who don’t think twice about how this type of shit is wrong? SMH
    Seriously, i mean, how dare he, i mean, seriously i need to see this thing to see just what a fucking douchebag he is!

    To soon?…..

  84. D says:

    CavalierKong says:
    August 26, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    It’s pathetic. This might be enough for the NFL to oust Snyder, which I think they are probably doing everything they can to make that happen.
    Not to play conspiracy theorist, but i think this kinda thing happens when they wanna get a guy out. I think this is the Cosby effect.

    Cosby has nothing for 30 years, starts stirring things up in the black community and character assasinated. Me personally, i think he did use quaaludes but my guess is it was recreational and not date rape, because people took those all over the place in late 70’s and early 80’s, when this was supposed to have occured. Also everyone coming out at once instead of scattered reports over the years. Just seems like it was a character kill. Still he kinda deserved it for doing that stuff as a married man, who was porotraying himself very differently than he actually acted, and im sure there were lots of times he used his influence to get the girls to comply, so again, there is nothing clean about his involvement.

    Same thing here, its not to say that Snyder didn’t do the things he is accused of, it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t deserve everything he is getting but the timing of all this shit coming out one right after another seems like a character assassination, and a grab for control of the Washington Football Team. This one probably works in the favor of everyone, because Snyder is one of the biggest douche owners in the NFL.

  85. The Flying Pig says:

    Stay safe WY

  86. Mike E. says:

    I think they should name Hurricanes after Democratic Governors and Mayors. They both destroy cities equally as well. 😀

  87. Tim Knight says:

    D, okay I’m not looking to speculate on things I don’t know enough about. There are a lot of people of wealth and in power who are creepy. I’ll leave it at that.

    • D says:

      Still dont think ya got the jest of my one post lol. I dont know enough about them to say one way or the other either, with Cosby, i seem to think he did things, and i think he is a creeper, but i dont know if what he did was rape. No one really knows but Cosby and the lady making the allegations, and with the world like it is, either side might be right and either side my be just trying to make things look the way that is most beneficial to them.

      As for Snyder im pretty sure he is just a douche lol. I just wanted to purpose the idea that there is an agenda to get him out, which it sure seems like it.

      • Tim Knight says:

        People in showbiz have been saying the creepy stuff is real and it’s been going on for a long time. Now the predators are all getting busted for it.

  88. wyoming85 says:

    Shit I got Max insurance on house and contents!
    Screw me once shame, on you! Screw me twice, shame on me! 😉

  89. wyoming85 says:


  90. CavalierKong says:

    I don’t want to rehash Cosby, so I’ll leave it at I disagree with you on that specific example, lol.

    But, I do agree with you on the premise as a possibility. When I posted that story and speculation about the NFL (along with the fact it wasn’t fully confirmed yet), I was allowing for that as a possibility. I think it’s likely true as Snyder is slime, but I certainly wouldn’t put it past the NFL owners group to manipulate things to get rid of an owner they want to oust. They might as well be politicians, lol.

    • stangerx says:

      But would you blame the NFL owners for ousting Snyder cause he is a slime? And it is not criminal court….. they can just vote him out.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I think he is the worst example of a professional owner, so I think it would be a very good thing for the NFL to get rid of him.

        Stang, it’s not a criminal court, I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure they can’t just vote him out. I think there are moral clauses that can be enforced in this case, but they can’t just say ‘we don’t like him, so we vote him out.’

        I think this story will end up being completely true. In regards to the possibility of collusion, I more believe in the possibility of this group controlling the flow of damning information and keeping up a barrage that will allow them to oust him, not so much they are fabricating stuff.

  91. CavalierKong says:

    ocalarob says:
    August 26, 2020 at 3:39 pm
    they said he was a steal in the 5th rnd, they had to waive him.
    until the 1st cut down day, injured non vested players must be waived before going on IR, to prevent teams from stashing young players.
    see joe schad

    This is what D was saying that Steve and Mike disagreed with.
    So who is right? Was the key difference the 1st cut down day?

    If I read that right it means you can’t designate a rookie on IR until after 1st cuts are made. So if you want to hold onto that player, you just don’t designate him until after 1st cut down day. So you’ll have to cut another player instead because that rookie is still an active player. Then after cuts are mad, you can designate that rook to IR.

    • D says:

      Cav, ill be honest, i dont really know about the Cosby situation, i think i have the most problem with the length of time it took for the women to come forward and the timeframe where they were “slipped” the ludes. Part of me probably just doesnt wanna think about Cosby like that. So i get not agreeing with me about that theory with Cosby, because part of me doesnt agree with it either. Ever found yourself so at odd with your own beliefs that no matter which call you make on the matter part of you will never be on board with the other? Thats kinda the Cosby thing to me.

      • D says:

        Oops not meant to be a reply here but its bottom of the page, so ill leave it lol.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I hear ya, and know exactly what you mean about being at odds with yourself. I find myself there semi-regularly, lol.

    • ocalarob says:

      if it were Tua the team would wait until cut down day to put him on IR, for marginal players like the DE, I would assume they were willing to run the risk of the player getting claimed because of the value of using his roster spot to sign a healthy player.

  92. wyoming85 says:

  93. wyoming85 says:

    Fuck cowtowing!
    Give them an “L” if they want to sit out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  94. wyoming85 says:

  95. Tim Knight says:

    Well it’s 3-3 OT!!! The Isles are a dangerous team. They remind me of the great Devils teams and it makes me want to puke! LOL

  96. stangerx says:

    Cav –I’m not sure what the exact rules are but the NBA sure as heck got Jerry Buss out of there when he didn’t want to leave. Maybe there is some ethics clause that needs to be triggered, but have a hard time beliveiving NFL couldn’t do the same.

      • stangerx says:

        “Under Section 8.13 of the NFL’s constitution and bylaws, the commissioner can determine if an owner or any other official “has been or is guilty of conduct detrimental to the welfare of the League or professional football.” As broad as that is sounds like Roger is god on this one so long as three-forths of the owners agree. But that’s just for the other folks…. know you got that from the article.

      • CavalierKong says:

        It’s an ethics clause. So basically they can’t just get rid of a guy. Goodell can make a recommendation and 3/4 of the owners have to agree. Any owner unfairly ousted would fight it in court and likely win.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Buss never had to sell the Lakers.

      • stangerx says:

        I’m sorry . Thought Jerry Buss got in trouble for racial comments and his wife took over the team. To the point he couldn’t even go to games. Is it just he didn’t actually have to sell the team?

      • CavalierKong says:

        Oh yeah, I think you’re thinking of the Clippers owner. I believe he had to sell the team, but that was based on a morality or conduct clause too though.

        That was the original point of contention, ya? Whether owners could just vote a guy out or if there had to be conduct detrimental.

      • stangerx says:

        My bad — yep was Clipper’s owner Donald Sterling who got banned for life from the NBA.

  97. Tim Knight says:

    Yes!!! Flyers win!!! 🙂

    • CavalierKong says:

      Big win!

      • Tim Knight says:

        Had to have it! You go up 3-0 in the 1st and lose going down 2-0 in the series you’re likely done. None of these teams get to feed off the home crowd energy. It’s pure hockey on the ice.

  98. bookman11 says:

    Looks like Brewers may not play tonight either, that means they would be available to go to Kenosha to help.

  99. CavalierKong says:

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Well fuck guess my days of enjoying sports is coming to an end. It’s already pretty much down to football anyway.

      • bookman11 says:

        I’m with you on that. I am really tired of the grandstanding and rushing to judgement, or should I say rushing to looting and rioting. At least our pathetic Governor IS accepting Federal help, unlike Portland.

        Did Lebron speak yet today, I can’t do anything until I hear from him

      • CavalierKong says:

        We’ll see how it plays out. We’re not there yet, but clearly we’re trending in that direction.

    • steveccnv says:

      My team was the Lakers, but I’m boycotting them until Lebrom leaves.

  100. steveccnv says:

    It’s as simple as this, you can put a rookie on IR, but you have to honor his contract if you do. If you don’t want to honor his contract you can waive him and pay him an injury settlement, and if he clears waivers you can then put him on IR. In either instance, if he was put on IR, the team still owns his rights.

  101. steveccnv says:

    Fuck these NBA players, no one gives a shit if they play or not.

  102. son of a son of a shula says:

    Hope all your stuff is ok Wyo, glad you got the hell out of there

  103. pheloniusphish says:

    Dude they are rioting over had a knife. Fuck’em all.

  104. ocalarob says:

    The NBA ratings are way down anyway, the guy got shot for resisting arrest with a weapon, he was a wanted criminal for sex crimes.
    if you’re going to make a stance against social injustice you may want to pick and choose the situation and who you stand behind a little better.
    this incident is a very lame way to support your agenda

    • CavalierKong says:

      Completely agree. In the video it sure looks to me like he was reaching down not just climbing in. He had a warrant, was resisting, then was reaching down for something. Is the cop supposed to wait until the guy turns around and fires before acting?

      I don’t know about shooting 7 times. But I also don’t know what the cop was seeing.

      I am really curious to see how this plays out once all the drama dies down. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the cop charged even though I don’t think he should be.

  105. bookman11 says:

    ORob and Phelon spot on

  106. CavalierKong says:

    Lightning are killing the Bruins. 6-1
    Awesome, lol.

  107. olddolphan says:

    CAV KONG: Saw your “big win” words for the Flyers. Indeed, it was. But speaking of “big win,” how about that 6-1 ass kicking the Lightning are laying on the Bruins after 2 periods!?!?? After going 0 for 15 on the power play, Tampa Bay scored on three straight power plays to break this game wide open.

    Expect plenty of fights in the third period!!!

    • CavalierKong says:

      LOL, just beat ya to it, OD. You guys are putting on a clinic. And we’ve had one fight already, and i do expect a couple of more.

    • olddolphan says:

      PS: An unconfirmed report tonight says that Tampa Bay’s captain and top scorer, Steven Stamkos will miss at least another full week of the playoffs. At some point, they’re going to need him.

  108. ocalarob says:

    This hurricane reminds me of Andrew, a small hurricane like a buzzsaw

  109. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ballage is getting cut source says according to the Palm Beach Post.
    Being awarded Salvon Ahmed off waivers appears it has sealed his fate.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That doesn’t surprise me. Howard and Breida are the two top dogs and Laird and Gaskin are next up.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I would have been fine with Ballage being released last year. He was terrible. Myles Gaskin reportedly has been having a very good camp, so him along with Breida and Howard makes up our top 3. Maybe we keep a FB and/or maybe Perry is designated as a back. That fills up that room.

      So Ballage’s days were numbered. Laird probably doesn’t make it out alive either.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I like Laird’s chances honestly, he’s just a hard worker, good teammate and has a lot of tools in his belt – blocks, good receiver, good with the ball in his hands, special teamer and so on. Plus a year of experience in his pocket.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I’ll be rooting for him, don’t want to see him end up on the Pets, lol.

  110. son of a son of a shula says:

    Despite playing different positions Laird reminds me a lot of 7-11 (can’t think of his name). They fucked that up, we sucked, all they did was praise him and then they cut him. Goes on to thrive in Buff and NE.

  111. CavalierKong says:

    It’s weird not to see a progression of cuts. A week before the season, all these players are going to be cut at the same time.

  112. son of a son of a shula says:

    Philbin did the same thing to a Safety named McClay I think. “He’s just a football player, he looks like a football player” (paraphrased), then cut. Goes on to start for freakin Seattle. Seattle could use him but we couldn’t 🤷‍♂️

  113. pheloniusphish says:

    Hogan signed with the BiPlanes

  114. ocalarob says:

    i hope your home fared well wyoming

  115. ocalarob says:

    Orange TX & Vinton LA got slammed!

  116. Ken says:

    ORob you must be in mourning with the release of Ballage

  117. D says:

    CavalierKong says:
    August 26, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    Completely agree. In the video it sure looks to me like he was reaching down not just climbing in. He had a warrant, was resisting, then was reaching down for something. Is the cop supposed to wait until the guy turns around and fires before acting?

    I don’t know about shooting 7 times. But I also don’t know what the cop was seeing.

    I am really curious to see how this plays out once all the drama dies down. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the cop charged even though I don’t think he should be.
    Not a fan of basketball, so its of no immediate affect to me, but yes, just like with Kaepernick, to me if they had picked a better person to rally around it would have a different view, or at least i know it would have for me. Supporting the kneeling to me wasnt a big deal but supporting something Kaepernick started with his intention not being a voice for change really had me at odds. Like i also said about BLM, i can support the cause but im at odds with the group, again, not the protesters, but the organization.

    This one was a combination of issue for me, 1) the guy was in the wrong, he didnt comply, he went back to his car for what could have been another weapon and they shot him. The 7 times with deadly force seems excessive to me, but had he not gone back to the care, that probably doesnt happen.

    There is some onus both sides have to take, police need to think about alternatives to the actions they take, they need to practice more descalation tactics but the public has to stop treating them like the enemy and refusing their commands. The black community needs to fight for their rishts but they need to educate their people and hold themselves to a standard that normal society follows or there will just be more of it. Until they can accept some of their ownership of this problem, there is no solution.

    • Ken says:

      I watched the video several times and I can see no justification for the shooting. I have defended police officers in Federal Court on shooting cases several times

      • steveccnv says:

        But you don’t know what was really going on at the moment of the shooting. Why is everyone in such a big hurry to decide what happened?

        The narrative in our country seems to have lead to this outcome. These people think it’s Ok to resist the police and not follow their command, and there’s not a damn thing the cops can do about it. Some idiots learn the hard way.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Dude was a criminal resisting and had a knife. You want the cop to wait to be stabbed? The only thing the cop did wrong was aim poorly.

  118. D says:

    No more ballgag….such a disappointment to many.

  119. Ken says:

    Where can find another ass as big as Ballage’s

    • steveccnv says:

      There’s plenty of big asses out there, Lebron comes to mind, not sure they can run the ball any better though😉

  120. D says:

    Ken says:
    August 27, 2020 at 10:07 am

    I watched the video several times and I can see no justification for the shooting. I have defended police officers in Federal Court on shooting cases several times
    What part of the video is shown, i agree it was excessive force, but there is a lot more to that situation than they show on the video. I have seen that video a bunch too and i cant completely say one way or the other.

    • steveccnv says:

      I’m pretty sure the cops had at least some justification for firing off the first shot. The other 6 IDK.

    • Ken says:

      It doesn’t matter so much as what part of the video was shown. What matters is that the part that was shown included the shooting and at the moment he was shot there was no imminent risk to officer’s life which is the standard under the U.S. Supreme Court decision of Tennessee v Garner. All police training manuals teach that you do not use deadly force unless you believe your next breath is your last. There is also a continuum of force that you are supposed to go through before you get to deadly force. Watching that video I know there are a host of other options other than shooting the individual

      • steveccnv says:

        So now you’re Nostradamus and know what he was getting out of the vehicle😉

      • steveccnv says:

        Key phrase you seem to be putting on the pay no mind list, “the part that was shown”

      • Ken says:

        I think you missed the point Steve. He did not get anything out of the vehicle. Police officers watched him with guns drawn walk from one side of the vehicle open the door and try to enter the vehicle. There were numerous options to intervene with non lethal options prior to the point and at the point he was shot he had not grabbed anything out of the car. It was not at the point where deadly force was justified

      • steveccnv says:

        Obviously he didn’t get anything out of the vehicle or it would’ve been on tape, the point you don’t want to regard is what he was reaching for in the vehicle, and that’s the big unknown.

        If I did exactly what he did I would expect that my life woukd be in danger. Some people choose not to learn/follow basic rules, so that’s on them.

      • D says:

        He was leaning across the front seat, not getting in the car though, thatss how you go to grab something out of the console not just get in the car and leave, which they also cannot let him do. He drew wielded a knife against another person, so who is to say what else he went for, and even if driving away, what he would have done if they just let him go. My only agreement is i do think they had non-lethals they could have ysed WAY before he got around to the other side, so thats where my conflict comes in, the number of shots, also kinda concerns me, but since one cop could have suspected danger, then they all would have had the same reaction, so even that im not clear on. I know you rep cops in shootings like this, and i know you know your field of expertise, im just saying, i couldnt come to that decision from what i saw.

      • D says:

        To me, more needs to be known here and i agree with Steve in the respect that without the whole truth, the whole video, the level of outrage and the level of condemnation of their actions should be put on hold while those details come out.

  121. D says:

    White, black, chartreuse, compliance id key in these situations and its not too much to expect. We have these gfuys to protect and serve, and to interfere with that is to push them outside their basic training. Some cops can handle it because they are cut from the right cloth, some cant, those guys need to gone but until such time that police reform can occur, your best bet to live it to comply.

  122. steveccnv says:

    People think they know their rights. Someone needs to put out a video, that goes viral, to teach people their basic rights.

    These people seem to be daring the cops to shoot them.

    • D says:

      There are so many factors in play, social differences in different communities, history, community learning vs real understanding (ie blacks teaching their children to not trust because they dont trust, etc) there are class issues in play, i see rednecks act in similar manners, so its a whole bunch of things that will have to be changed to get to a better place and its WAY deeper than just police reform.

      That said, two primary factors to work on is compliance within the black community, and reform within the police force. Better education deescalation, how to not let the situation get there, and again, respect for authority on the peoples part, people will live more often than not if they can get those two things under control, then you get to the deeper issues of culture changes, faith in law enforcement, etc.

  123. D says:

    To me this is also way more of a class issue than a black/white issue and as long as it remains a black/white issue your chasing the wrong problem, introducing an even deeper level of hate into things and spinning your wheels of progress.

  124. D says:

    Oh and i want my big asses on the cheerleaders not the RB lol. Ballage was hyped up when he came into the league, i didnt think much of him when he was at ASU, and to be honest i dont really think much of PAC 12 RB’s, even though occasionally a really good one does come out of there. Still, maybe it was just a bad fit for us, maybe he goes on and does really awesome stuff, he just isnt there yet, and his time ran up.

  125. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

  126. Tim Knight says:

    Guys I was saying Laird and Gaskin will be the depth, not next to be cut. LOL

  127. wyoming85 says:

    Well the house is still standing!
    Actually weathered pretty well!
    A few shingles off the shed and well house, but other than that no damage!!!!!!!

    It moved to the east just enough!!

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