Sorry Dolphins fan, we tried to look awful smart with pre draft maneuvering, making two synchronized trades with the 49ers to move out of #3 and move back to #12, and then the trade with the Eagles to get back up to #6. Did we get the best TE? Nope! Did we get the best WR? Nope! Jaylen Waddle is a good player, but the moves that we made don’t add up to the player we selected. We may have been able to get Waddle at #12. He will help our offense and be the player we hoped Tedd Ginn Jr. was for us. A dynamic return man and a a guy who will take quick hitters and turn them into big plays. He can be like Albert Wilson was for us in 2018 before he got injured. We can go back and forth about where Waddle would have been taken, but being at #6 and ending up with Waddle is deflating. Sorry, it just is. Grier and Flores get no pass.
With pick #18, I’m telling you guys, I knew we were taking Phillips. In our Mock Draft I picked Phillips because I felt he was the player we want here for our defense. I said it again last night. Although I was right, it didn’t make it any easier because I really wanted Najee Harris. We need an upgrade at RB, and if we somehow don’t end up with Javonte Williams, we will have failed again. I feel like we can have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds in every draft and still find a way to fuck it up. Quality over quantity. Right now I feel like we’re just getting quantity.
In our offense, Jaylen Waddle will be featured often. Tua Tagovailoa likes to get rid of the bill quickly and Waddle will be like Julian Edelman was to Tom Brady. He will help our offense. He will upgrade our return game because although Grant is electric, he’s so questionable about actually fielding punts and kick returns. His hands are suspect. Waddle is much more sure handed. I just don’t see a generational talent in him, and 2 guys went before him that definitely might be, Kyle Pitts and Ja’Marr Chase. We were at #3 and could have had either. This is my qualm. Everyone wants more picks, not me, I want great players, and I’m not sure we got ANY last night. We could have, we didn’t!
Jaelan Phillips is a Flores type player. He knows what he’s doing out there. When Grier took Charles Harris because he had a quick step, he did, but he had nothing after that. Phillips is the opposite. He’s a technician with a bevy of pass rush moves and he’s athletic enough to back that up. He’s fast, and he’s strong, and he’s very athletic. 6’5 260 and ran a 4.56 40, 36″ vertical, 10.5 foot broad jump, 4.12 20 yard shuttle, and 21 reps of 225 at his pro day. His Junior season and last season in Miami, he posted 8 sacks and 15.5 TFL in a shortened season. He’s the real deal, and we need the pass rush help, but we lost out on RB Najee Harris.
We got good players, players that will help our team be better next season, but we had a chance at elite. Pitts or Chase could be elite. When all is said and done, Waddle and Phillips might have very good careers, but Pitts and Chase could be HOFers. Time will tell. I try to be fair, I don’t want to be a rah-rah pom pom waving writer. I want to say it like I feel it, so I did. Go get Javonte Williams. IDGAF if we have to trade to pick #33, get him, because we need him!
GO DOLPHINS!!!!
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The Flying Pig says:
April 30, 2021 at 8:54 am (Edit)
We didn’t talk about TE much but Brevin Jordan and Pt Freiermuth are still on the board and may even be available in the 3rd
Foist
the Dolphins got 2 talented playmakers in the first round, maybe Williams from NC will be picked tonight.
Fins still need a RB
(nice take mike)
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We may have been able to get Waddle at #12.
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i agree however we may have gotten Pitts or Chase at 6, so you have to give them a pass for moving to 6, they rolled the dice.
evidently they valued Waddle more than Sewell, that’s what i don’t understand
I do think we needed an upgrade at WR. I don’t like our WR corps. We have too many guys that can’t stay on the field. If everyone stays healthy, it’s not bad, but Waddle will be good for us. Parker, Fuller and Preston Williams can’t stay healthy. We had to get a top WR.
there is MUCH you dont understand
but the Dolphins have spoken, Waddle IS more valuable than the fat ass duck
Re: Sewell, I think they really believe in the rookie OL they got last year. Also, RT Tevin Jenkins is still out there along with OT Cosmi.
when you weigh between sewell and waddle though, who’s the BPA?
Apparently Waddle if you are a professional football evaluator. If you’re amateurs like us, who knows.
im not disappointed with the selections, im thrilled with Waddle and Phillips, they were BPA at 6 and 18
but trading out of the third pick , was where we missed out on Pitts and Chase, but just think, we got that extra first rounder coming in a couple more years, SMH
if Orob were GM, the Fins would have 53 offensive lineman and nobody else, lol
I am just wondering which WR (Grant/Wilson) we trade today and what do we get for them?
I don’t see getting anything for Hurns.
wilson has been gone for years, we havent missed him
I hope we trade and get value for both of them
nobody would trade a used tampon for part time alburp wilson
let’s offer ALL the guys we don’t want for Jets #34 and be done with it. lol
NFL Network is reporting that Waddle was Miami’s target at 6 and was the top wr on their board… apparently what put him ahead of Chase was Waddle “wanting to come into game when Smith went down, even though he wasn’t fully recovered while Chase sat out an entire season”. Fits one of Flores’ criteria… guys want to be on the field no matter what.
Apparently Smith was quoted as saying he ‘wouldn’t have won the Heisman if Waddle hadn’t gotten injured’ …
Interesting.
Phillips? I think edge is one of those positions that you keep drafting year after year until you hit… cuz its so critical to pressure the QB.
We may even draft another edge player today
Waddle is the kind of player that changes your offense just by being on the field. His speed changes the defense. But that’s why a RB like Williams would be so huge too
Let’s go – get Williams
Then add OL and maybe even another edge player
we have williams,parker,fuller & waddle all locks, we will only carry 6 wrs so we have 2 mores players to add to the list. will bowden or perry make the team? do we dump Wilson or Hurns?
Bowden is definitely a keeper, Perry will be on the bubble because Waddle can do anything Perry can do better.
Grant may be history as well
Capt Stubbs – Waddle is 5’10” 183 lbs. so I don’t think his size is an issue. Same size as Duper.
I thought he was smaller
He is, he’s 5’9 180. Phelon is adding a 1/2 inch and 3 lbs. lol
Commented on old blog.
I like the picks… however I feel waddle was a reach. I understand how he’s used. I’m concerned on his size and if Tua will find him open with size of the O and D lines.
I think Phillips could be great as long as he puts in the work and not on the turn tables
Exactly how I feel
Do we need to recap the above conversation to get them in order?
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ORob, BPA btwn Sewell and Waddle IMO is close. Their respective skills they bring to the table for what they do at their position is close.
Though, I did not want to see Waddle at #6 but I also did not want to see us draft an OL in the 1st either.
pheloniusphish says:
April 30, 2021 at 9:18 am
Apparently Waddle if you are a professional football evaluator. If you’re amateurs like us, who knows.
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I would guess need played a factor in that decision as well.
For sure.
Dolphins were high on Waddle, and he was the BPA at 6
there was not any better players at 6,
and but of course Pitts and Chase were rated higher, but were not there at 6, we would have had to stayed at 3 for either of them
size is NEVER an issue with slot receivers, they are typically not 6 7 and 350 pounds, usually sub 6 foot and less than 200 pounds
Grant is 5 7 165 , Waddle would tower over him, lol
Waddle is the perfect blend of size, speed, and route running, will be a pro bowl WR in a few years IMO
OK, so everyone today who was saying Waddle was always our choice, how many of you said that before the draft? I’ll wait . . .
I DID……’NT
We need to see the big picture today
Waddle and Phillips make sense if the way we build today compliments them
I think a rib like Williams makes the waddle pick an exceptional pick
Phillips I’m not sure about. Maybe we add more defense?
I’m going to be angry if Williams is there ans we take fucking Barmore.
If William is there at 36 he may be there at 50
I’m more worried about the first couple of picks
The Flying Pig says:
April 28, 2021 at 9:49 pm
Final Ticker
1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, 🐈
2. Zack Wilson , QB ✈️
3. Justin Fields, QB ⛏
4. Kyle Pitts, TE 🐦
5. penei Sewell, OT 🐅
6. Chase, WR 🐬
7. Surtain, DB 🦁
8. Lance, QB 🐈⬛
9. Jones, QB 🐎
10. Parsons, LB, 🤠
11. Waddle, WR, 🏈
12. Smith, WR 🦅
13. Slater, OT, ⚡️
14. Horn, CB, 🚣
15, Paye, ED 🎥
16. Farley, CB 🦢
17. Vera-Tucker 🏴☠️
18. Harris, RB 🐬
19. Phillips, ED🖕
20. Darrisaw, OT 🐻
21. Rosseau, ED 🐴
22. Jenkins, OT 🌑
23. Samuel, CB ✈️
24. Dickerson, OC ⛓
25. Barmore, DL 🐈
26. Collins, LB 💩
27. Ojulari, ED 🪶
28. Marshall, WR 😇
29. Newsome, CB 🧀
30. Etienne, RB 🦬
31. Moehrig, S 🪶
32. Leatherwood, OT ⚔️
The 2nd half is a disaster
I wasn’t feeling it that night. I was beat from work, couldn’t think straight
no one picked Waddle at #6
slot receivers have to be quick, and light on their feet, Grant is probably the fastest Dolphins, and definitely the quickest cuts
it requires a small guy to be that fast, big guys cant change directions quickly in space, or run the slants effectively
small guys are MUCH faster, ever hear of an 330 pound OL running a 4.3? You wont
No but 330 pounder just stays right in the throwing lane and puts his mitts up
that does NOT work at slot receiver, lol
slot receivers are small and FAST, no others need apply
I here you all saying size doesn’t matter in the slot. However the the qbs throwing to those guys are 6’4″ 6’5″ or better
not all, Murray is 5 7,
obviously Miami invested the number 6 pick on Waddle, because he has what it takes to be the slot guy,
if it doesnt compute, stay tuned for sunday afternoons this fall, lol
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there it is. Nice post.
YES !!!!!
MikeE, I certainly didn’t think Waddle was on top of Fins WR board … but those were reports that came out from draft night right before the pick was announced.
According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Waddle was the No. 2 player on the Dolphins’ board, behind top overall pick Trevor Lawrence. Waddle was the second wide receiver drafted, one spot after LSU’s Ja’Marr Chase.
Grade A-
Miami Dolphins
Draft picks
Alabama WR Jaylen Waddle (No. 6 overall)
Miami edge rusher Jaelan Phillips (No. 18 overall)
Analysis: Waddle is an explosive player who becomes the first receiver 5-foot-10 or shorter to go in the top 10 since Tavon Austin in 2013. The ‘Bama wideout’s midseason injury did not affect his draft status, either, in part because he showed great heart by playing in the College Football Playoffs National Championship Game despite an obvious limp.
This choice may have been between two teammates: Waddle and DeVonta Smith. If not for the ankle injury he suffered against Tennessee on a kickoff return, Waddle likely would have been the one hoisting the Heisman Trophy, not Smith.
Waddle’s extreme quickness from the slot and speed in the open field will certainly help his former Alabama teammate, Tua Tagovailoa, fully develop in Miami. But there is risk in taking a smaller receiver coming off injury this early in the draft.
Phillips was an excellent pick in terms of his on-field value. If not for his injury issues at UCLA that caused him to retire from football briefly before heading to Miami, he would have been picked earlier. He’s a powerful pass rusher who uses his strength to stack edge blockers and chase in the run game. Phillips is an all-around player who, if healthy, can be a quality starter immediately.
he was very healthy last season, and got drafted in the first round, IF healthy, doesnt fit here, he IS healthy
Cincy taking Chase and the early run on CB was the early derailment of the draft night assumed zeitgeist.
Totally disagree . Almost everybody is giving miami A ‘s and calling them one of the big draft day winners . Watching good morning football now and are raving about miami ‘s draft. Waddle was #2 overall on miami’s draft board …waddle no way in the world makes it to 12 lol …. they get their man and get a 1st and 3rd round draft picks. If waddle didn’t get hurt , he wouldve won the Heisman. Even devonte smith agreed . Miami wanted to stay away from opt out players..
Pass rushers make a bigger impact in todays games over rb’s and phillips is a stud . Top 10 pick if it wasn’t for the UCLA medical history . I wanted Phillips over harris . There’s still some good rb’s available in round 2 .
You can’t come on here and disagree. WTF! LOL
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sure would be nice to have a third pick in the 2d round tonight … there is a ton of talent at lots of positions available.
everybody seems to say if Phillips is healthy, he will be a stud
but we can say the same about ALL prospects, lol
trevor lawrence had shoulder surgery 3 weeks ago, yet nobody is saying if he stays healthy, he will be good, lol
i wanted Pitts or Chase also, but we had to understand we forfeited the rights to those guys with the tradedown from 3
Exactly
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Anyone notice a new blogger? Some cat formerly of NJ?
Ik going to change my name . And i now have more time to come on here
1980 flashback moment
in 1980, Dan Marino at Pitt suffered a bad knee injury, that caused him to miss games, and get demoted to second string QB
this WAS a concern in 1980 for Pitt, but was NOT a concern for the Dolphins in the 1983 draft who selected the HOF QB with a college knee injury
And he didn’t do anything but hold the team hostage for nearly 2 decades and taint the #13 in Miami forever.
do Me a favor, and learn to think before posting, thanks
do you really think Marino sucked for his career, because of the knee injury at Pitt?
damn the education is seriously lacking in Mississippi, they are 50 out of 50 states, lol
David – I think that was sarcasm.
Like I said before, I wasn’t a fan of the picks, but they are on the team now so I will root for them to succeed. They definitely weren’t BPA’s at their respective picks, that’s just post-draft coitus euphoria.
Agreed
I concur, as I’ve already made that clear
SMH, have someone read a book to u sometime
It better have pop ups or I’ll get bored lol
lol
Were i to have been picking, we would have Smith and Harris from the first round, but see below, that was because of my pick philosophy. I was going safe bets safer targets for Tua, not players that might actually let him exceed expectation. My picks would probably have boxed him in some.. Waddle opens it up. The pick of Phillips for D was perfect, i just didnt care much about adding to the D this early. This doesn’t mean the pick was bad, just means i had a different viewpoint. See below for a more detailed view of how i see the picks now that they are made.
i dont believe anyone here is GM quality
the position requires success at the game as a player, and usually as a Head coach
it also needs someone with contract knowledge, business savvy, etc
that rules out EVERYONE here, lol
and yet, the critics claim they could have done better with the number 6 pick. WHO?
there wasnt anyone better at 6 than Waddle, the Miami GM has spoken
WOW The one and only NJ Phin Fan, been a while bro, hope everything is good with you.
Ocalarob !! What’s up brother. Im doing great ! I Live here in the smokey mountains of east tennessee ( pigeon forge/ sevierville/gatlinburg/ knoxville area. . My restaurant is booming . Businees is great . I Just bought a new house. Got myself a new mercedes AMG C63S. Feel great healthwise at 56. All thanking god of course . Pumped up about the fins 🐬
Hope all is well with you brother !
Nice car.
I thought the first round was pretty solid. That said, its not without some complaints by me, but they are philosophical differences.
First, the Waddle pick. I personally had Waddle higher than Chase on my “board”. I had Waddle and Smith pretty even, and though i preferred Smith, it was for the wrong reasons. Waddle had been my choice WAY back before any of the final parts of this process had begun, back into the year prior. With the injury, and and the fact that i felt like a consistently open target was best for Tua would be better for us, i moved Smith ahead of Waddle.
Still, that’s because i was basing the decision on who i thought was best for our team. I’m a lot bigger fan of players with a higher ceiling, even if the floor is lower, why? Because i bet on myself and my ability to get the most out of people. Flores is the same kind of guy, so a player who has a high potential for larger returns he is going to bet on and bet on his ability to get them there. Under that philosophy, Waddle is better than Smith.
No Pitts, no Chase, choosing Waddle over Smith is actually exciting, it means they are going to be taking the training wheels off and let Tua sling it. I believe in Tua, so i think after the pick i completely agree with them going that route. No other player would have been as good at 6. I could have seen maybe a trade back scenario, but i wouldn’t have gone too much further back, and it takes two to tango so im not going to bitch about that. Also if you wanna talk Sewell with hat pick, again, i don’t see him nearly doing as much for us as an elite offensive playmaker, i think Hunt and Jackson are really good players, and apparently the coaches do too.
Phillips was the best edge defender to fit a hybrid scheme in the draft. Slam dunk pick if you were even considering us going D in the first. The only issue i have with it, is i wasn’t one of the people that was excited enough about any of the D players to take any of them in the first, unless it was a gas mask scenario and we just got a stud fall way down to us.. I personally would have taken Najee there, but then that’s because I’m a big fan of Najee and i know he would have been great for our offense.
post of the day nominee, lol good post
No RB in the first. Good decision.
Usually is, but i think Najee was a special player and unfortunately i wasn’t alone in that. We had to take him at 18 to get him and personally i would have done it, but like you said, its not something i would normally want to do for the same reason I’m sure you have for doing it.
when Smith made a negative comment against Tua, that confirmed to Me that Waddle would be the FIns choice, not Smith
draft prospects should not be badmouthing anyone, just wear a suit and keep quiet till Your name is called, how hard can that be? lol
your hindsight is amazing!
i dont require compliments from you
Tons of great talent still available at 36 and 50n. Pumped up for today 🐬💪
JEREMIAH OWUSU KORAMIAH -LB
JAYLEN MAYFIELD -OT
TREVON MOERING -S
TEVEN JENKINS -OT
LANDON DICKERSON -C
JEVONTE WILLIAMS -RB
CREED HUMPHREY -C
RICHIE GRANT -S
LIAM EICHENBERG -OT
DILLON RADNUZ -OT
NICK BOLTON -LB
CARLOS BASHAM -DE
WYATT DAVIS -G
good list, i hope Miami takes Javonte Williams for RB
Just off that list i wouldn’t mind walking away with Jenkins or Dickerson, but Dickerson preferred, and Williams. Probably will have to be both from the 2nd round
Agreed .
Hey NJ! Upon reading this post . One thing jumped out. Are you “pumped “for the draft or are you pumped from picking things up and putting them down 🙃
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steelers draft a RB every year, and havent gotten it right yet, lol
Pittsburgh is where running backs go to die prematurely
I think they have had some pretty stellar ones, but they do use the hell out of them and they don’t generally have great careers after they leave Pitt.RB’s are one contract players these days, maybe two if they are just exceptional and keep themselves in great shape.
I’ll take Javonte Williams #36 and then Creed Humphrey #50 please, thank you!
Rather have Dickerson, but those are two players id have interest in as well. Right position players IMO.
Dickerson’s injuries worry me. He’s a very good player though. I’m not a doctor, if we checked his medicals and take him, I’ll trust it.
Same here brother
On to day 2. As Rhino said earlier, there is serious talent still available in this second round.
There are 3 teams in front of us.
Jags – Needs are: Primary – OT, WR, S. Secondary – CB, TE, IDL, EDGE
Jets – Needs are: Primary – CB, Edge, RB. Secondary – WR, OT
Falcons – Needs are: Primary – CB, Edge, S, OT. Secondary – QB, RB, S
Jags just got their RB. With this info, I think the only threat for us to miss on Javonte Williams is the Jets.
When they didn’t take Najee when they traded up, i was assuming there was potential they would go for Williams in the second, or Etienne if he fell that far.
I do think its a priority pick for them this round.
and with Ojulari sitting there, I think that’s the way the Jets go. But I have a feeling that Fins won’t consider RB until 50. This blog will melt and circle the drain quickly if that happens. lol
Waddle was the right pick over Sewell, you’ll see why after we take Jenkins at 36😉
The difference between Waddle and a WR available at 36 is greater, than the the difference between Sewell and Jenkins.
Actually like Jenkins better than Sewell for RT.
Jenkins is more important than Williams, though I really hope Williams is there at 50
Jenkins is a nice player, i like how he plays the game. He is a finisher.
Id rather have an OC though, just to fill a need, but i really like Jenkins tape.
good point Steve
I love Waddle. I preferred Chase, but Waddle is very good. It was just a matter of what sort of WR you wanted in round 1. Chase is the all-around #1 guy who can do pretty much everything really well. Smith is the stretch the field guy who can threaten the deep part of the field all day. Waddle is the utility knife who is gonna be a mismatch terror you can use out of the backfield and in the slot…or put him out wide if you like. I think Waddle and Gesicki attacking the under routes and the seam could be very dangerous. 2 tough covers.
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Phillips is a great athlete, but I wasn’t all that high on him. I just didn’t see the production in college I’d like from the edge. That said, if he stays healthy, he has nice potential. Again, I’d have gone a different direction, but I can see why they picked Phillips. They picked the 2 positions in round one I felt they should, it just wasn’t the guys I thought we’d end up with. Coach ‘me up and let’s go!
Last time we took and Alabama OC he was a HOF’er Mikey, just sayin’ lol
Like I said, if we take him, I’m good with it. I can’t be concerned about injuries and things I know nothing about
Waddle made the exact same comment that Smith did about preferring Jones over Tua. It had nothing to do with selecting Waddle over Smith.
https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/both-alabama-wide-receivers-prefer-mac-jones-over-tua-tagovailoa
I wouldnt read into either of them doing that, i mean picking Tua could hurt Jones more than it could Tua who had already been drafted, it was a statement to protect the guy they just wont a NC with
Up the board it was stated that is why we selected Waddle over Smith, which is obviously not true since they both said the same thing. It was just media driven drama that didn’t affect anything.
NJ PHIN FAN says:
April 30, 2021 at 9:42 am
According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Waddle was the No. 2 player on the Dolphins’ board, behind top overall pick Trevor Lawrence. Waddle was the second wide receiver drafted, one spot after LSU’s Ja’Marr Chase.
Imagine all the bitching you guys would’ve done last night, if Pitts or Chase were still there, and we still took Waddle🤪
I posted a couple days ago, that I said to my Chargers friend you know who the best WR in this draft is? At the same time we said Waddle.
My offensive player list was Pitts then Waddle then Smith then Chase. I think Pitss was possibly the best player in the draft period.
Still, Smith over Waddle is understandable too because if you look at it as safe pick vs risk/reward pick, Smith all day. He is about as pro-ready as they come, minus putting on some weight, which isn’t going to be an issue, but i think you have seen his ceiling, and i dont think you have seen Waddle’s
When I read we had him as our #2 player, that was the first thing I thought, lol. If Pitts was there and we selected Waddle, how many people would have lost their sh^t? 😀
I would have….. Nothing against Waddle, but that’s a “transcendent” player at the position, and i think he would have made our offense unbelievable. Waddle will not have the same overall effect, though i do expect him to open it up a lot.
Pitts was who I was rooting for, but I had ATL taking him so I wasn’t surprised.
I didn’t expect Waddle, so I didn’t put too much thought into him, but I’m excited to see him on the team.
The argument on Phillips was his health, people act like, because of those questions he should’ve dropped, well he did, he’s a 10 top talent and would’ve been picked there
Yeah i had him as my highest overall D player for us, back when everyone was all over Rosseau
D,
I like Najee too. I am not so sure he’s as great a prospect as most here do, but I still think he would’ve been a nice player to have. It’ll be interesting to see if they go after any RBs as the draft goes on and what type they pick. I also think edge was a much bigger need than RB for us right now. It may have simply come down to that for them. I’d have been okay if they took Najee at #18 too, but I’m glad they didn’t.
Agreed, i mean my general philosophy is the same as yours, and maybe right about the position of need as well, though its debatable. Im happy with the pick, even if i would have made a different one. Like i said if we were going D, that’s the guy i wanted to go for.
Mike E. says:
April 30, 2021 at 10:41 am (Edit)
I’ll take Javonte Williams #36 and then Creed Humphrey #50 please, thank you!
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That would be great
But don’t forget there are some good OTs on the board like Mayfield, Cosmi, Jenkins
I would take those OTs over Humphrey at 50
Also don’t forget there’s a bunch of good pass rushers left like Ossai and Olujari and the jests and cheats drafted guys that look like this who are just asking to get hit
Also did ya hear what Jones had said? He told the Comish that’s exactly who i was hoping would take me. With that much love for the Pats, there is something wrong with that kid…lol
He’s seriously a douchebag
These two have type of faces that scream “let’s go somewhere” if they are in the bar when you walk in
D – Dickerson fits in with the “big” dudes we’ve been drafting on the O-line. Kindley – Dickerson – Hunt is one big ass interior right there!
The Jets drafted a lesbian QB. Not there’s anything wrong with that . . .
Yeah he does look a bit like Drew Lock doesn’t he, you have to pay homage to the first Lesbo QB, Jets got a copy.
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1388149980414857217?s=21
lol
Training camp photos
So what positions are our weakest links right now?
I think center is our biggest need, and I’d like to see a RB added. After that?
I’m a little cuckoo but I would say we can use a little more pass rush
I thought edge was our biggest need entering the draft, so doubling up at the position makes sense to me too.
I kinda like Trey Hill later in the draft. He’s not the greatest athlete at C, but with a couple years of development he might be a really solid pro. If he’s there in the 4-5 rounds, I’d certainly consider taking him.
I kind of think OC is more like a developmental position after the Skura signing
There’s also the Jackson guy from Kentucky
I don’t think we need a plug and play center
I think we need a center that might be our guy in a few years
That usually the type of value you can find in day 3
Someone like Humphrey, however, is hard talent to pass
he was my favorite OC leading up to the draft, but pairing Dickerson with his former QB makes a lot of sense to me. Thats a Chemistry you want and its a instant fix at the position.
The Zack Wilson signing may cost a lot of money for the jests bc he’s the #2 pick but think of all the money they save on razors
Is that Mac Jones in the pic with no shirt? Holy shit kid. Ever find your way to the weight room? How do you look that soft when you’re 20 something?
What I really admire about Zack Wilson is he doesn’t care about the money
He specially asked to be paid in these
Piggy,
I’d still prefer to pick Linderbaum from Iowa next season, but I think Hill could be a nice developmental IOL. He’s also got the size to play OG. I like him in the middle rounds. Anything before the 4th would be too rich for my blood….and I’d prefer the 5th.
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As for edge, a kid like Basham would be a nice pickup. I don’t think he lasts on the board much longer though. He’s a smart, tough kid who’s kind of a tweener, which works for us.
I didn’t wash much of basham
But I’m intrigued by him bc I’ve seen him later at 275 and 280 pounds even though he looks slimmer. I read that when he was recruited from high school he was 215
Dis he put on 60 pounds at wake forest?
Whatever you guys think
Flores was very excited about the Phillips pick
I posted this week a positional ranking, it had us at 28 overall, said, if you believe it’s close to accurate, that Flores has done a better coaching job, than we thought.
With that in mind and knowing how Flores uses players on D Phillips must look like the kind of player (one with actual talent), that they can turn into a stud.
Last year they raves about Davis, for what they can do with him
I posted this, then just now saw Pig’s post directly above.
Had a feeling Flores had a woody for him
They didn’t draft najee into a good situation
I feel like EDGE was a need and we filled it. I look at our offense, and yes, I’m aware the little guys did OK last season. We need a thumper, and Malcolm Brown isn’t special. Williams is a tough runner who can catch out of the backfield. No offense to Gaskin and Ahmed but they go down immediately after contact. We need a grinder. Sure, we can keep drafting O-line and I do think we need a C, but stop with the tackles. Skura was ditched by the Ravens for a reason. Draft his replacement now.
Me if we draft williams
However I don’t think it’s do or die
There are a lot of good prospects available now
I think we are about to make the team better one way or another
As much as I would like to see RB and OL
I think there is a shot we see another pass rusher tonight
Some one to throw in there and keep the pass rush persistent
Social media has really changed the way we handle puberty
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1388158476405420038?s=21
Piggy,
I think I read that Basham was around 260. I think his size and potential growth is kinda what makes him a tweener. I don’t see a big sack dude, but he is a guy you can move around a little. I’m not thrilled by him, but he’s one of the better prospects left at edge. It just wasn’t a great group of guys this year. I could also see them going with another WR like Bateman in the second.
I don’t know about WR and I’m usually the pig who pushes for WRs relentlessly, our current depth chart as a lot of injury prone players though
If we go after another one I would like it to be Tylan Wallace
Basham at 260 or less kind of has a Jason Taylor feel
The guy I want is Joseph Ossai….but we will see
3 picks today
I think RB, WR, Edge, OC, OT, TE and DL are all on the table
Not sure what the want to emphasize
But brining a lot of pressure to slow down the Buffalo offense or go after the topics on the jests and Patriots might be a difference maker
Randy, I am right with you on OC. Trey Hill would be good at pick #156 but also Linderbaum or Matthews next year would be 10X better, IMO.
Get Williams at #36 then another OLB/Edge or Safety after that. Only way I say go ahead and get an OC earlier than #156 is if we trade Grant for a 3rd or 4th then take OC Myers who is really athletic and can play both OG spots. Only knock for me on Myers is his snapping is off at times.
Randy – Bateman went #27 to the Ravens
Center isn’t a position deemed that important overall. Doesn’t mean you can’t take 1 early, but you don’t do that unless you can afford to, we can’t. Still need an RT and RB first.
Here’s video of what was being talked about up the board. It’s talking head stuff, but this take really has me psyched.
https://www.miamidolphins.com/video/dolphins-among-biggest-winners-of-first-round-of-draft-gmfb
Basham played last year at around 280 if I am not mistaken. IMO, he is more like who we have in Jason Strowbridge and Nick Coe but more talented.
Don’t forget we have Edge Tyshun Render who the staff said was making a lot of progress last half of the season. I think he was even made active once or twice along with Strowbridge.
I really hop Render makes a huge jump this year. Mainly because we stole him from Bellicheat. lol
MikeE,
Oh geez. I missed that. Thanks.
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By the way, I’m about 2/3 through Feist’s first new book and boy has it been a slog. I’ve always enjoyed how he develops characters, but I’ve skipped full pages already. I’m assuming all this development will pay off eventually. Also, since you like fantasy stuff, I just watched “Shadow had Bone” on Netflix. I knew nothing about the books, but I enjoyed the show.
It does pay off, and like I said, the 2nd book dragged too, but once it got going, I really enjoyed it.
Let’s say the team has cleared Phillips for health reasons, does that change anyone’s mind on the pick, with the assumption there’s no health concern?
I think it was the right pick, and I said they were going to take him. I didn’t want to lose Najee Harris, that’s all.
There are a couple first round talent WR’s still available:
Elijah Mitchell
Terrace Marshall
Rondale Moore
Then you have Tylan Wallace.
If GB does not get one of them, we could get #93 from them for Grant but more likely their 4th round pick.
No one is giving us a 4th or probably not even a 5th for Grant. Maybe a 7th, sold
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If GB doesn’t get one of them, Rodgers is going to blow a head gasket!
If Waddle opens things up like he did at Bama he could be the next Tyreek
David Collins says:
April 30, 2021 at 10:10 am
do you really think Marino sucked for his career, because of the knee injury at Pitt?
damn the education is seriously lacking in Mississippi, they are 50 out of 50 states, lol
He doesn’t seem to get sarcasm
I don’t live in Mississippi, nor was I born there, but nice try with the personal insult. I never said Marino sucked, nor did I say anything about his injury at Pitt, so it’s really funny you giving me a lecture about reading and thinking before posting.
The best thing to do is just not engage. 🙂
YOU told Me You lived in Mississippi before, i dont have your address nor do i care what you or fat man, oops bookman think
“Shadow and Bone”, dammit.
Lol, didn’t know shadow’s had them
Knew what you meant. lol
The media likes what Flores/Grier did last night, because they have faith, just like they give Belicheat a free pass, so unless they feel the picks were really bad…
What happened to it would be really hard for us to screw up this draft?
Seems many think we have
I wasn’t thrilled at first, but after sleeping on it, I like the picks, particularly if they were targeting Waddle, which means they traded back to 6 to make sure they got him.
Good to see NJ Phinfan here
BOOKMAN !! WHATS UP BROTHER !
steve,
Phillips did say he was going to retire after his freshman year, so there was obviously concern. He has nice potential but just going off his college production he doesn’t exactly thrill me. That said, I think his skill set is definitely something you can develop. I didn’t see much to love against the run, so I think he’s got a lot of work to do. I have no problem with the pick but mostly because there just wasn’t much talent at edge in this draft. 20 games in college isn’t much to go on.
He left UCLA because of a car accident, not concussions.
He’s healthy now though and has the talent to be used in multiple ways
One thing to keep in mind is there may be another RB on the Dolphins list higher than Williams. Not mine though. He is good but we have in Gaskins in what we would get from him.
That is Williams counterpart at UNC, Michael Carter. Reason I say this is because he played (very well) for Flores at the Senior bowl. He is faster than Williams and a bit of an ankle breaker but much smaller.
Smaller but stout. Only 200 lbs but also only 5’8.
We could go #36 RT Tevin Jenkins and #50 Michael Carter.
I prefer Williams over Carter, but like taking Jenkins first, even if it means Williams is gone
No one is giving us a 4th or probably not even a 5th for Grant. Maybe a 7th, sold
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Someone posted something that the Phins had been in talks with GB about Grant for a mid round pick. That is why I was saying that.
Maybe Jakeem Grant for Aaron Rodgers
Brian Miller speculated a mid rd pick 5 or 6 at best. That guy never knows what he’s talking about. If we get more than a 6th for Grant, it’ll be a steal.
Miller also speculated a mid rd pick for Flowers
Be careful what you say about him, he’s besties with Stanger😉
I posted something about that report, someone may have also posted it too, just don’t agree with the comp
Jenkins and Williams tonight would be a homerun.
Jenkins first, because I don’t see a substitute, sure there’s other OTs that will do, but he’s got something special
Meinerz at 81 would blow it out of the water
Why did you guys let me drink so much last night? 🤕
The first thing you have to do is identify…
Is there another player named Jalen/Jaelen we can draft tonight?
Jalen Pigs, he’s a 4’3″ bowling ball of an RB😉
Nah, think we took em all
I guess Javonte is close enough
Jelen Jenkins, T, Oklahoma State
Jenkins takes the top tackle spot on this list because he’s the only one of the three that primarily played right tackle in college. If the Dolphins are looking for a player that requires the least amount of projection to ‘plug-and-play’ on the right side then Jenkins would be the pick.
Fansided fuckup, but fits here🤪
Lol
steve,
Well, I didn’t say it was because of concussions. Lol
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A wrist injury doesn’t make a guy want to retire. I believe he also had an ankle injury. There were also concussion concerns. He’d already had a concussion his freshman year. He had more after the scooter accident in his sophomore year.
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He’s on the team now, so all we can do is hope he stays healthy. They were comfortable with his medical, so that’s all that matters.
Yeah let’s hope so, he looks like JT to me.
Difference is he’s got Flores to put him in a position to succeed, instead of Wanny
Yeah, if he stays healthy, he could be a very good pick. Best Edge in this class, IMO. They say he is really good in space and sticks to his assignment.
F the needs, if Owusu is there at 36…
We may even hear a tradeup before the draft starts for someone moving to 33
steve,
Absolutely, I’d be hard pressed to pass up JOK if he’s there.
Not done yet and Tua already has Fuller and Waddle. Those are his type of receivers.
Now get the man a RB!
Mike E. says:
April 30, 2021 at 10:41 am
I’ll take Javonte Williams #36 and then Creed Humphrey #50 please, thank you!
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I was going to post this exact thought, but then say you had typed it for me already.
I am fully on board. These are my preferred targets too.
I still believe that Grier has F’d up the 5 first round picks the past two years and will be fired before the 2024 season.
Let’s hope that isn’t the case because these next couple of seasons will be pretty shitty in order for that to happen
If you say any GM will probably be fired in the next 3 years you are probably right.
GMs that don’t draft great in rd 1 may or may not get fired, but it will be based on the team’s success.
Pro bowls are beauty contests, they don’t have relevance in the standings.
Grier drafted Minkah and drafted/traded Tunsil getting back all this capital, that can’t be overlooked
Flores can take hisins…
Randy says:
April 30, 2021 at 11:21 am
Is that Mac Jones in the pic with no shirt? Holy shit kid. Ever find your way to the weight room? How do you look that soft when you’re 20 something?
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RIGHT!!??
I am 52 freaking years old and was never an “athlete” and I look better without a shirt than that guy!
I think there is a common thread to Belicheat’s QB picks.
no coach has lasted more than 4 years for Miami in recent years, they’re going into their 3rd year, if they don’t win a playoff game (something that hasn’t been done in 20 years here) Ross will clean house,
they are gone in 2022.
Make the playoffs and fired if don’t win? Not buying that. Have a hard time seeing them out after this season no matter what goes down.
give them 4 years, if we are not playoff bound dec 22 they are fired.
i think they will achieve that.
Team is young, was 10-6 last year , and only getting better with all the picks. Doesn’t seem like a time to go gloom and doom.
A lot of people say the first year doesn’t count…..
HOGWASH!
The first year doesn’t count
And there is nothing wrong with hogwash
I was really impressed by the first year.
maybe that is why they got the extra draft pick in 2022, in case the current coach or players dont work out, there will be some extra draft capitol to start over.
this team seems to start over all the time, but if Flores is showing progress, and the players do their part, then we might not have to start over again every 3-4 years
correction, extra 2023 first round pick
Just feeling 3rd place in the division in 2021/ 22 season.
Could end up that way. Won’t be 4th though.
Facts don’t care about your feelings🙃
The fact is we had trouble moving the ball last year, after receivers went down and 2 opted out.
Think you’ll see much better play from the WRs, even if there’s injuries.
First game without Fuller we’ll be just fine, with Waddle in slot and Parker/Williams out wide.
The D will be better also with McKinney and Phillips being more dynamic than KVN and Lawson, then AVG used more often and Beigel back
Waddle was SEC Special Teams Player Of The Year In 2019
Outside of the passing game, Waddle brings a dangerous threat to the Dolphins in the kick return and punt return game as well. He had three total special teams touchdowns in his time at Alabama. And in 2019, he won the Southeastern Conference’s Special Teams Player of the Year award after returning 20 punts for 487 yards (24.4 avg) and five kicks for 175 yards (35 avg) that season.
End around is also in his repertoire
As is QB from the Wildcat
“No Regerts”
OJ loves the Waddle pick
NO WAY is Waddle worth TWO first round picks. That is what we gave up for him. This year’s #12 and next years mid round after we finish 3rd in the division.
Who is worth 2 firsts round pick other than a QB?
Number of us wanted to stick at #12, but not the way it worked out. Not a knock on Waddle….. he didn’t trade back up. And hey — could’ve ended up Pitts or a massive haul from a trade down. They rolled the dice.