1-6 : Where do the Dolphins go from here?

The NFL Trade deadline is coming, now less than a week away. Moves will be made by our organization, but the magnitude of the moves has yet to be determined. This team has underperformed and once again disappointed a fan base that thought, believed and expected better things. In the 3rd year of Grier and Flores, armed with a multitude of first and second round picks in consecutive drafts, we thought we finally were going to get a talent laden roster of young players to build to build around. No more foolish spending in free agency trying to put band aids on wounds that needed cauterizing. We were going to build a young nucleus, with a young QB (Tua Tagovailoa), and then sprinkle in the right veteran players in free agency with no desperation, and no need to get the hottest and most expensive players, just the right veteran players to put us over the top. Instead of building on the 10-6 record we achieved last season, this team has fallen backwards at 1-6 after 7 games and and basically at a point where the season is lost. So now we get to see how this trio of Ross, Grier and Flores handle their failure and try to remedy things. The Deshaun Watson trade rumors have been present since before the season. Is Watson a better QB than Tua is now? Sure, but Tua is a rookie with a 7-6 record, completing over 65% of his passes and a 2:1 TD/INT ratio with 18 TD’s and 9 INT’s. To me, pulling the plug on that is preposterous. On the other hand, the track record for Grier and possibly Flores surrendering a 2nd and 5th RD pick for Josh Rosen in 2019 makes you wonder if they are capable stewards of making such important decisions. They did evaluate the QB class of 2020 and they chose Tua Tagovailoa at #5. Do they pull the plug on a player that has worked so hard and to rehab injuries they were fully aware of when drafting him, especially since he has played well enough to have a winning record and at least average to above statistics? The bigger question is, for what player to make you the trade for? A QB embroiled in controversy and 22 civil lawsuits filed against him by 22 women. This is what makes you abandon the player you were all in on just one year ago? You have to wonder if either of the 2 under Ross really deserve to be here themselves.

I believe the Dolphins aren’t going to make that move. Yes, Watson has been convicted of nothing, there are simply allegations at the moment. He is not guilty until proven otherwise, but many times where there’s smoke there’s fire, and 22 lawsuits is a smoldering inferno. Is that the desperate approach you want to take as an organization? You will probably get elevated play at QB with Watson as compared to Tua but would it be enough of a difference to make this team a winner? We’re 31st on defense statistically. Is Deshaun Watson going to be a 2 way player? Our offensive line has been poor the entire season. It won’t be any better for Watson. As expected, our best WR’s can’t stay on the field or even when they’re on the field, they’re not healthy. We have had DeVante Parker on this team for 6 seasons before this year and he played a 16 game season once. In 2019 he finally had the year we all thought he could have and became the player we hoped he could be, but that was the flash in the pan. He can’t stay healthy, and when you have a #1 receiver that’s rarely healthy, how do you bring in Will Fuller who also has never played a 16 game season. The we have Albert Wilson who opted out of the season last year due to COVID-19. He hadn’t played since 2019 in which he had a terrible hip injury that cut off his nice season in which Wilson was the one exciting piece of the offense. Preston Williams has also been injury prone and only managing to play a maximum of 8 games in 3 different seasons. Is all this Tua’s fault? Is it Tua’s fault that the defense that that was 6th in points allowed is now 31st?

We sent a few veterans packing this season, one after trading for him in the very same offseason. We traded for LB Benardrick McKinney and then cut him in one of the last cutdowns. We traded OG Ereck Flowers to the WFT for a swap of 7th RD picks. I was fine with trading Flowers because I figured that meant that we had our starting LG in Solomon Kindley, or maybe rookie OL Liam Eichenberg. In the short term, sending Flowers hasn’t worked for the better. I still feel like I’d rather have these guys learn than sit behind a vet like Flowers, but with that comes growing pains, and the QB (Tua) along with the offense itself have felt that pain. I was all for giving AVG more playing time and jettisoning KVN allowed that to happen. Getting rid of McKinney while a surprise allowed LB Elandon Roberts to play, and I feel he deserved that as well.

So what happens going forward with this team? Do they finally make the trade for Deshaun Watson? I certainly hope it doesn’t happen, because even if the team is better, marginally or significantly, I won’t feel good about it. It’s just not the ideal situation in my mind at all. “Hey, we have a QB in a hot mess of legal trouble due to his very questionable character, so will give him to you at 50 cents on the dollar”. Yeah, I’ll take a pass on that. Besides the fact that I like Tua, all he’s done since he’s got here is bust his ass to be the best he can be, and he has played well enough in my mind to give him more time to see what he can be. There’s also a huge risk factor that will only mitigated by less compensation initially, there will be no protection for us once the deal is done. Is Tua part of the deal? I would imagine so, but that much is not clear as of yet. Besides the potential trade, I want to see growth for all our young players. I want our O-line looking much better by the end of the season and I want our young LB’s playing at a high level and showing legitimate pass rush chops. I want Tua to show that not only does he belong and deserve to be our QB, but that he’s a damn good one that has earned our respect. It’s not ideal being 1-6, but there are still things that can happen that can make this season a good one. Let’s hope these things happen, all of them.

GO DOLPHINS!!

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608 Responses to 1-6 : Where do the Dolphins go from here?

  1. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  2. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    It’s Halloween weekend so here’s a Friday video that’s theme related. More to come.

  3. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Gotta throw some country in there for Wyoming.

  4. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    How about some Vanilla Mike.

  5. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Have to do a classic one

  6. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    What’s Halloween without Freddie

  7. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Kind of another classic

  8. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Hate to admin it, but this guy reminds me of someone I know. LOL

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Now Bill de Blasio is running for Governor of NY. Guess he feels like he didn’t fuck NY badly enough as Mayor. Funny thing is they just might vote him in. I’ve also heard that NJ Governor Phil Murphy is planning to enact vaccine passports in NJ if he’s reelected. Refuses to mention that before the election though, he’ll do it after

  10. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Gotta have some rock

  11. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I like this one Broken Peach just released. I remember this one from the early 80’s.

  12. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Have to bring it hard with some KILLAS WITH ATTITUDES.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Way for him to go out on a limb for his QB. 😒

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Means no trade is happening. Could also mean that FLores thought one might before.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Nick Saban said “I will not be the coach at Alabama” and a week later he was the coach at Alabama.

      Grier is the one who needs to clarify things

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Just tells me they are going to roll with Tua for the rest of the season. Let him show other teams that he is worth a first round pick. Then see where Watson is come the new league year. He said “2021” not beyond that which, to me, leaves everything open for next year. Next year Flores and Grier will be in win now mode with all that cap space. We are all ready at the top in cap space for next year. Maybe even more cap space by Nov 2.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It’s not an accident he’s finally making that kind of statement a few days before the trade deadline. Should be indicative that no trade is happening before then.

      Hallelujah, let’s let the kid actually have a chance to prove his worth.

  13. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Got to go with the classics

  14. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Maybe Wyoming can explain why the only place to see Sunday’s game on CBS outside of parts of NY and FL is in the middle of Wyoming.

  15. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    The Tua since his return has looked pretty good a few rough and untimely interceptions but certainly he’s improving. The offense has been more productive but we have to start scoring in the 2nd and 3rd qtr. it’s like we’re lifeless.

  16. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    In my view, announcing that Tua is the starter is an insult. Of course he’s the starter, no question about it. They should have been 100% invested in Tua all along instead of longing for the douchebag from Houston, and leaving Tua dangling. Shitty organization

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      Your so mad that you find everything offensive! 😉

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      I think the possibility of getting Watson (prior to this season and before the legal stuff) intrigued Grier and it threw him off of his plan. He’s the one who probably had Ross bought in and it’s starting to look like it might blow up in his face.
      Grier took his eye off of his plan, he fucked himself.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It reminds me of the South Park episode ‘Cripple Fight’ where Jimmy and Timmy are brawling in an alley, (which incidentally is a hilarious reenactment of the awesome brawl between Rowdy Roddy Piper and Keith David in ‘They Live’), where half the town is watching them fight for like 5 minutes and when both are finally on their ass beat to all hell, a guy steps forward and says “all right, boys, that’s enough”…

  17. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Re: coverage map. I have yet to have the Dolphins on regular TV here this season except jags games on NFLN and I was on the road. They haven’t televised any in this area west of Panama City.

  18. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Wyo – maybe? 🤪

  19. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Just curious, anyone here think there’s any chance that Grier could get fired and Flores could remain HC? Anyone think he deserves to stay? I do

  20. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Sonny – that all makes sense about Grier. Sounds right to me.

  21. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Heck yeah Grier and Flores don’t necessarily come as a package deal, We all saw what happened with Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano under the same owner.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Remember Fuller didn’t play and was awol with a “Personal Matter” the beginning of the season? I have heard the conspiracy heads say it was he came here purely to play with Jerkoff boy and when the trade didn’t materialize he wanted out……

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        A conspiracy theory that is. Not buying it, especially since whether with us or another team Fuller will be looking for a new contract after this season. Not ruling out that Watson wants to come here cause of Fuller though. They are best buds.

  22. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Those tweets were the coaches replies He didn’t tweet the questions. It’s not like Flores just took the podium and said tua is the starter for the season because he just had the urge. He was responding to an insipid reporter’s question.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Does it matter? Tua is the starter and was always going to be the starter. It just comes off shoddy whether he was answering a dumbass reporter or just said it on his own.

  23. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    All he has to do is say we have no interest at all in this player and will not have interest in this player in the future. The way to stop this discussion and continue to ‘focus on players on the team’ is to stop the mealy mouthed answers.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I wish they (Either Grier or Flores) had said we’re not interested in acquiring Deshaun Watson, we have our QB in Tua. They couldn’t say that because they are/were interested

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        Yep, it’s pretty obvious at this point. Ruining a good young QB because you can’t build a solid offense for him.

  24. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    This is pretty simple to me: they can NOT say they ARE interested because it is tampering; they can deny having any interest in him, but they wouldn’t want to be accused of lying…..politics…..smh

  25. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Mondo’s new gig seems to have brought out the “best” of him?????

  26. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    So mechanical issue with plane , we have been put back into terminal with no answers … MIGHT get fixed, might fly tomorrow.. airline is giving out meal voucher, however all food facilities in this terminal are now closed … 7 hrs at FLL and counting

  27. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    I”M PLANNING on wearing a Steve Ross mask Sunday night and scaring off all the little kids and their parents!!! Then I’ll offer them a copy of Miami’s W-L record this year and get laughed at!!

  28. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    As shitty as this season is and how poorly our organization is treating Tua, all I want to see on Sunday is a fun game to watch. I don’t expect us to win the game, I just want it to be competitive and see the young guys play well. Because whatever happens moving forward, there is some good young talent on this team to build on in the future.

  29. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Reboarding … wish us luck … air Canada flight 913 ( just in case ) 😎

  30. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    I am looking for an upset, anything else to me is expected

  31. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Rockphin says:
    October 29, 2021 at 4:41 pm
    Those tweets were the coaches replies He didn’t tweet the questions. It’s not like Flores just took the podium and said tua is the starter for the season because he just had the urge. He was responding to an insipid reporter’s question.
    ——————-
    SMH, that “insipid” reporter was Cameron Wolfe, and he wouldn’t allow Coach Flores off the hook…

  32. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Will this shit finally end next Tuesday or is it going to linger all off season too?

  33. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    What happens if Tua has impressive numbers and some nice wins the rest of the season without the playoffs. Is it still all on Tua or does everyone remain stupid? LOL

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Tua’s numbers are actually pretty good right now

      But what if he improves and makes 300 yard games a regular thing?

      I think that puts egg on the face of the face of the entire organization

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yes they are and Kurt Warner who watches film on QBs so he can comment on it as a former HOF NFL QB, says he sees Tua growing and his last two games are the best he’s seen so far. So his last two games trends him to suck, not improve. LOL

        I want Tua to do his thing as a pro and at the end of the year I hope his performance shoved it up the organization’s ass. Now what do you do guys?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        As such, I’m actively rooting for Tua to put egg on the face of the entire organization.

  34. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    It’s honestly a weird relationship with the team right now to be so upset with owner, FO and coach and root for Tua to make them look stupid

    It’s not ideal

    But I think it’s something that can be navigated and our fandom isn’t in question

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      It will kill me if Tua gets the shit beat out of him again behind this defunct (although getting gradually better) O-Line. What do we do in that event… where Tua goes out for the season?

      That’s the worst-case scenario, and I hope it doesn’t go down like that, of course.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        He’s only been sacked 5 times this season in 3.25 games and only once the last 2 weeks. But the Bills were the team that brutalized him and the entire team.

        I’m more worried but what the players think of the organization moving forward. Yes they have a job to do and their tape is their resume. But as a team I don’t think we have a united group for all sorts of reasons. I think we all know there a bunch of young players going all out though.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Even people who follow the league that may not be the biggest Tua fans think it’s a disgrace to make him go through this. It’s obviously a negative and I think it effects the entire team meaning the players. The brass is allowing it to happen. So whatever effect it has on them is on them.

  35. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Hey, BBMIke! Good selections of music up the page regarding Halloween music… I dig! I submit this one…

  36. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Just a really good tune with great harmonies.

  37. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    What’s the SCARIEST movie you’ve ever seen? I love scary movies, especially in this Halloween season.

    For me (‘blood and guts’ movies aren’t scary), it would have to be ‘The Ring’. Loved ‘IT’ (TV movie in 1990), and ‘In The Mouth of Madness’ was pretty damn good, too.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      Bats! But that’s probably because I was like 11 or 12

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      The original Halloween

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      For me as a young kid it was ‘The Exorcist-73’ and ‘The Omen-76’ both dealing with the ultimate evil in the Devil or Satan. The music in ‘The Omen’ is haunting and amazing at the same time though.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Bro, it’s the MUSIC from those movies that ROCK and SCARE! I’m right there with ya! Modern movies (post-2000) rarely do it for me anymore. I’m with ya on BOTH movies!

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I really enjoy scary/ horror movies of all types. When it comes to being creeped out leaving the theater, The Ring is top 3 for me.

      Scariest for me would be the original Nightmare on Elm Street. A perfect combination of a good psychologically scary movie and seeing it at the right age (on HBO in 6th grade). I can’t imagine ever being actually scared by a movie anymore, but I was after that one.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        The OG Nightmare on Elm Street played on me, too… and we’re pretty much the same age, Cav Kong. Yes, it was a good one at our age!

  38. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – The Exorcist and The Omen were 2 of the scariest that come to mind.

  39. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Bats themselves don’t bother me. It’s the “bump in the night” I guess, and like I said. I was 11.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I KNOW that bats themselves don’t bother ya, my Brother! And yes, everything is different when one is a mere 11 years old!

  40. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    And both replacement parts failed after installing… here for the night still

  41. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Gregory Peck was so serious that I think it made it that much scarier.

  42. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    M : I’m not a fan of scary movies, I find them dumb not scary.. the Ring was an exception that was creepy and kewl

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      First time I saw The Ring, I was all by myself and rented it from Blockbuster. That creeped me the funk out, man!

      PS: I hope everything gets better for ya, what with your delays at the airport, Bro.

  43. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I have to say that ‘The Conjuring 2’ with the creepy nun Valak gives me chills every time.

  44. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I think Toba is living out my adult nightmare!

    Except the movie would be called Welcome to Denver We have no flights out!

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Or perhaps, “The Langoliers”, by Stephen King.

    • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

      Lol… at least I get our luggage back shortly, and wife is upstairs dealing with airline making accommodations and rebooking .. COVID results are being given a 24 hr extension as well … 10 hrs at FLL and counting 🤷‍♂️😕… and this will only get us to Toronto, still have to transfer there to get home

  45. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E. says:
    October 29, 2021 at 9:56 pm
    Actually should add Jaws to that list. I lived right across the street from the beach and for years it was very hard to go in the ocean without thinking about sharks
    —————
    YES!!! Jaws would make my list, too. I still get a little freaked out when I go out in the ocean to catch some waves (NOT surfing!).

  46. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Paranormal Activity. The first one. Literally had trouble going to sleep after that.

  47. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Thank ya …. I first saw it with a GF that had just dyed her hair dark black from brown . For the next week every time she walked by a mirror she freaked out .. 2nd time was on DVD with kids, I waited until appropriate moment and dialed the house phone … scared the shut out of all of them 🤡

  48. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Event Horizon is another good one, for the sci-fi horror genre.

  49. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    The eye dr thing in clockwork Orange is a No Can Watch scene for me …

  50. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Jacobs Ladder had some disturbing shit in it too. Kinda freaked me out

  51. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I used to love Children of the Corn, but I re-watched it a couple of weeks ago… it hasn’t aged well, IMO. Not nearly as scary when it first came out.

  52. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Maybe this movie is a forgotten one. ‘Jacob’s Ladder’ is very creepy. Based on the effects of Vietnam.

  53. D's avatar D says:

    The scariest movie right now is called the Miami Dolphins because your are seeing the slow decay of a football team who finally looked like it was getting it’s shit together but can’t even manage a simple controversy with any tact or decorum, so that they could be anything but a laughing stock.

    Other than that maybe try The Shining, Something Wicked This Way Comes, or Pet Cemetery

  54. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    D, ya stole my thunder, man! I was going to wrap it up by saying the 2021 Miami Dolphins are the scariest movie I’ve seen to date! Well done.

  55. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Films that are intentionally gory leave a lot to be desired. There is no suspense. We all know bloody murder has to happen eventually. That doesn’t scare me.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It’s a genre like anything else. It’s not for everyone, but I love old cheesy gore Roger Corman B movies, and semi-realistic gory movies like Hellraiser. As technology has gotten better, and it’s become more realistic, I find I don’t like it as much.

      Torture porn can be too realistically gruesome for my tastes. I don’t really like the movies like the Hostel movies, but then again I really liked the first Saw movie.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Did you ever watch those snuff films like ‘Faces of Death’? Not really scary, just horrible ways to die whether real or not. Then you had the Final Destination films that touched on the same ideas but fiction.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        I watched one of the Faces of Death films a couple decades ago. That stuff was too gruesome, especially knowing that some of the animal deaths in it are real. I don’t want to see that kind of stuff. Enjoyment of horror, for me is based in the fact it isn’t real.

  56. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’ve gotta run for the evening.
    GO PHINS!!!
    HELL YEAH!!!

  57. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Toba, the Final Destination films were made for teens of the time thinking about crazy ways to die. Not that they wanted that to happen, just that it was obstacles and circumstances that could happen. It was humor/gore for sure.

  58. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Kong, same here. I don’t need to see real horror and death. The same when I watch nature shows. I don’t need to see big cats or hyenas tearing a Wildebeest’s balls off while another is tearing it’s throat out. But I know it happens. That’s not scary to me though, it’s disturbing. I feel for the prey.

  59. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I think you all nailed my 5 top scary movies. There are some other that scared the shit out of me but it was due to a much younger age like 11 or 12. I do plan on seeing this latest Halloween movie just not sure when.

  60. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    2.00 pm tomorrow to Montreal🎉🎉

  61. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    M13, I remember Whodini from back in the day. Brought back a serious visual of my good friend Solomon Eagles rolling up to pick me up for a night out in his 1976 Monte Carlo with curb feelers bumping “Friends” by Whodini. lol

  62. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    It’s COLLEGE GAMEDAY BITCHES!!!

    Some good games all day long today.

  63. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    we did the ft lauderdale strip in 74-76 in a gran torino, just driving up and down the strip hanging out of the car, funeral for a friend blasting out of the speakers.

  64. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Yeah, Pet Sematary definitely is one of the scarier ones, I don’t do well with deformity and they made Zelda pretty scary looking with spinal meningitis. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/78/c8/1e78c8e5972ed7003331180486abcc00.jpg

  65. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    The Exorcist has always been the scariest movie to me. Although watching An American Werewolf in London freaked my ass out the first time I saw it. Gore doesn’t frighten me. I need suspense.

    • olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

      WELL, THEN, Randy, DON’T watch tomorrow’s Dolphins @ Bills game (according to the “experts.”) I happen to believe this game WILL BE COMPETITIVE, at least for a while. Many Dolphin players (AND COACHES) may be playing for their jobs!!

  66. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I can honestly say I have never seen a scary movie. I’ve seen most of the movies you guys listed but have never been effected by them. I may be wired differently or something. Never got that scare thrill from a film.

  67. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I didn’t even realize, the Bills are coming off a bye week. lol, wonderful.

  68. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Airport 2 the sequel

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      That’s Tawny Kitaen may she RIP. Vid explains why had a huge crush on her.

      Hope your remake of The Terminal ends well and quickly. Least you got your smokes back.

      • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

        Thank ya sir .. and yes , was almost forced to quit 🤥
        We are to be boarding in 20 mins … hoping for a tailwind to assist making transfer on time in Montreal

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Hope they gave you an OK hotel.

      • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

        They set us up at Holiday INN on Sheridan .. so in a nutshell we left La Quinta at 11:00 am and by Midnight were 4 blocks away … just got an email saying our Winnipeg flight is cancelled until Sunday afternoon…

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Must be some way to get to get from Montreal to Winnipeg. The one time happened to me was a flight from Newark to Honolulu. Soon as heard mechanical troubles meant next day said screw it and grabbed a flight to San Fran. We had to pay for that but got the other one refunded. And we were progressing distance-wise on our trip.

  69. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  70. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “League sources said the Panthers are willing to part with three high picks and All Pro running back Christian McCaffrey in a package for Watson; the Texans are very high on several of the Panthers’ young defensive standouts (still on their rookie contracts and younger and cheaper than McCaffrey), and the sides have yet to reach a compromise.”

    — Jason La Canfora doing his best to keep up with Florio

  71. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  72. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    So since you guys went with the horror film stuff — one of my best buddies growing up was Jason in the first Friday the 13th flick. He’s the kid who grabbed the girl out of the canoe at the end. All of like 2.5 seconds of screen time. But he was the original Jason.

    Lost connection with him decades ago, but he’s on the internet as going to a bunch of fan shows. And he was an amazing musician, which probably explains why he formed a punk band called “First Jason.”

  73. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I certainly remember feeling some kind of thrill when I saw that White snake video!

  74. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I like the scary movie discussion. My first scary movie was Friday the 13th Part 2. I was 6-7 and my dad let me stay up for it on HBO. I handled it fairly well until the ending which got my dad in deep crap with my mom. I wasn’t allowed to watch them for a while after that. Omen also scared me as a kid.

    As an adult, the only movie that fucked with me was The Ring. I enjoyed it immensely but afterwards woke up in the middle of the night thirsty and groggy. I went to the fridge and as soon as I opened the door, I heard that weird croaking noise and just froze for a second. I looked all over the kitchen to make sure I wasn’t dreaming and even thought there was no way I’m pulling a Bill Pullman over this, then went to bed a bit freaked out. My wife laughed the next morning.

    I love the the Conjuring series even though it’s not scary. Just well crafted stories overall.

  75. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    This just ain’t right. What professors do on their own time should be just that. Whatever their political views. Not your typical employer/employee relationship.
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    In a decision that could have far-reaching free speech implications for faculty at universities and colleges across Florida, the University of Florida has refused to allow three political science professors to continue to serve as expert witnesses in a case that challenges a new state law that restricts voting access.

    Political Science Professors Daniel Smith, Michael McDonald and Sharon Austin, two of whom have previously served as expert witnesses in cases against state, were told by emails earlier this month that their requests to serve as experts would now be rejected. They were seeking permission to serve as experts in the case challenging Senate Bill 90, passed by Florida’s GOP-controlled Legislature in the wake of the 2020 election.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      They could always refuse the “mandate” !
      If they believe that strongly about it!

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        They could, but from the article they will not. Understand their employer has the right to do this even if not done before. They could quit, but no sign they are.

  76. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    ElephantRider says:
    October 29, 2021 at 11:40 pm


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    Can’t believe I forgot this one! LOVED this song, man!

  77. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Kenneth Walker III

  78. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    This is happy!

  79. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  80. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    The entire voting rights argument is completely dishonest but they should be allowed to make their terrible arguments. I still haven’t found an argument against Voter ID that stood up to comparisons with all the other IDs required to live in America not being racist The ;lack of voter ID is entirely a tool for voter fraud as Europe and other countries have acknowledged. Mail in ballots are also in this range except in specific circumstances like with the military and citizens abroad.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Way I look at the new laws limiting voting is that when grew up it was first Tuesday in November and that was it. So see that as the minimum. Pulling back from expanded voter access is just the parties trying to set up what best for them.

      This was Deep State stuff. Whatever would happen in court not cool.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        So you finally acknowledge the “Deep State”… 20+ years late and $15T short. Got it.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        It’s a term of art at this point. Recognize fake news as well,. Why should I not? Not sure where you are going with that.

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        Just have Voter ID and enough places to vote on that Tuesday. The rest isn’t needed or viable for fair voting. You shouldn’t have the option to sit at home and vote. If it’s important to you, go out and vote. Sit in line for a few hours if needed. Voting isn’t meant to be a effort of convenience.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        That would be the minimum. But not with you on voter ID. Figure if walk up with my driver’s license, passport and voter registration info that should be enough. Why should I have to get something else?

      • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

        What do you consider limiting?

        I don’t know about FL, but the bill in Texas everyone said limited voting actually increases early voting. The only thing that got ratcheted up was to enforce the laws in effect about mail in voting.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Like said above I’m fine if it is show up at the polls on voting days and nothing else. Not familiar with the laws in Texas except some folks think will lessen voting ops some. And I’m fine with that.

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        If, you have all those things then sure. Voter ID replaces the need for all those things and ensures you actually have those things. The argument against ID is usually “I didn’t update and they turned me away! I wasn’t on the rolls somehow! I didn’t have the right ID but I should still vote!” I can’t afford an ID!” and other ridiculous claims.

  81. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    In Montreal, at gate , flight is NOT Cancelled..

    Woot woot.

    Hey Mike E … we COULD have DRIVEN home Faster ..🤡

  82. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    October 30, 2021 at 6:23 pm
    It’s a term of art at this point. Recognize fake news as well,. Why should I not? Not sure where you are going with that.
    —————-
    It’s a term of “art”??? Recognition of fake news is irrelevant in terms of my reply. Where did THAT even come from?

    It’s difficult to discern where you are going with your reply to me.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      You say I fail to recognize the deep state…. deep state is what I did. Man the things we got done. And have talked about much of it on the board. Long as you are hooked in with the right folks it just happens. So you saying don’t get the deep state leaves me befuddled. For you to suggest don’t get that is a little insulting actually.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        SMH, feel insulted away. Way to re-frame the argument to make you look like the victim, even after all “the things we got done” under your watch.

        This feels like narcissism to me, coming from you. Want to talk about our deficit, or is it all paid for like Biden states?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        “This feels like narcissism to me” — apparently got you upset again. If helps any the most influence my lobby shop ever had was under the Trump administration. Cause we are the most conservative in our field.

  83. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Why is Virginia a target for ISIS?

  84. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    October 30, 2021 at 6:55 pm
    Again why is Virginia their target? I’m asking because I don’t get it.
    —————
    Oh! Got ya man! It’s a gubernatorial election in VA for the next Governor. If it stays ‘blue’, nothing changes… but if it goes ‘red’, changes (to the positive) are coming.

    ALL POLITICAL EYES are on VA right now. Hope that answers your question.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      VA’s current GOV is a trainwreck (blackface, for one), they are imposing the racist CRT into their schools, and the whole state is under attack to become a staple of PC. In short, it’s all but become a totalitarian state where parents are being arrested for merely speaking out in PT meetings.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        What’s happened in north VA has prompted our current AG Merrick Garland to sic the FBI on dissenting parents, so as to label them DOMESTIC TERRORISTS… just for disagreeing with the CRT/BLM curriculum.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      There is a governors race in other states as well. I’m not getting how the governors race in Virginia would create ISIS threats.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Northern Virginia ‘belongs’ to DC… if ya didn’t already know. The Deep State is pulling out all of its tricks to keep VA blue.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Isn’t ISIS against all of America? Are you saying they prefer blue?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        YES! ISIS is against the WHOLE of America! This is yet another liberal trick, to suppress the vote. ISIS has yet to reorganize, for one… much less attack our country from within.

  85. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    October 30, 2021 at 7:09 pm
    “This feels like narcissism to me” — apparently got you upset again. If helps any the most influence my lobby shop ever had was under the Trump administration. Cause we are the most conservative in our field.
    —————
    “Upset”? LOL, I don’t get “upset”. I speak truth.

    So, the most influence your lobby shop ever had was under Trump… so why TF did you try to destroy him? Counter-intuitive, is it not?

    You are “the most conservative in our field”… is that right? Yet, you were anti-Trump… got it.

    You DO realize that JFK of the ’60s was probably further right of ’16 Trump, right? And JFK was a Democrat…

    I think you’re bizarre, Stanger… if you’re speaking the truth.

  86. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    mf13ss says:
    …So, the most influence your lobby shop ever had was under Trump… so why TF did you try to destroy him? Counter-intuitive, is it not?

    You are “the most conservative in our field”… is that right? Yet, you were anti-Trump… got it.

    You DO realize that JFK of the ’60s was probably further right of ’16 Trump, right? And JFK was a Democrat…
    ——————–
    Would you care to answer this, Stanger? If I’m to put 2 and 2 together, I need to have answers to the questions.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      You do realize that there are about half a dozen people on this board who would LOVE for you to address this. Ya know… those who call you a closet democrat.

  87. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Anybody ever see “The Grudge”? Pretty spooky and none too shabby for a horror movie.

  88. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    manitobafinfan says:
    October 30, 2021 at 6:22 pm
    In Montreal, at gate , flight is NOT Cancelled..

    Woot woot.

    Hey Mike E … we COULD have DRIVEN home Faster ..🤡
    ________________________________________________________

    By the time you get home you;ll have to go right back as the next fest will arrive.

  89. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Ken says:
    October 30, 2021 at 8:12 pm
    There is no one this board that wants Stanger or anyone else to answer that. This is Fins fan football blog. Let’s not lose sight of this
    _______________________________________

    I just want to know why you suck at evaluating QBs?

  90. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Buffalo tomorrow, a chance for Tua to change my mind.

  91. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    That must suck for a smoker to fly long fights on a plane.

  92. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    LOL

  93. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’m not in sync with a lot of tonight’s discussions. LOL

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