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Finsmob Unleashed 
I keep seeing a team that has some really good players who are not being put in the position to excel and marginal players who are getting bad coaching, along with questionable game planning and play calling on offense, we struggle.
I agree with you
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Struggles come from using a non RPO OL to run RPO, then being too stubborn to change away from it
The entire offense is a work in progress. Just keep trying to get better is all we can hope for.
You are right – but it’s thanksgiving
They are way behind the 8 ball
Hollins is a perfect #5 WR. He plays every game, beast on STs, and makes plays when called on
Would like to see more medium plays at WR, such as more 1st downs, but he is a #5 WR
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Agreed! We struggle and it shouldn’t be a fucking struggle! We have talent now and no fucking head to make it work…wtf?
That was to bookman’s post….sorry
Yeah, I guess the good thing about it is that maybe we don’t need a complete blow up or even close to it, just a change in coaching, particularly on offense, and at GM? Not sure, but at least there is something there to work with maybe?
Maybe, and hope that’s mostly true. We have more talent, but coaching is fucking this up, both D and O.
Flores, needs to learn how to evaluate coaching talent, imo. I’m hoping he figures it out. Somehow his first two years got o me…lol
The OL is still a problem. The Jets are not a good defensive team. We get no push when we have to. The pass pro was okay. Even times when we used play action and it looked like we wanted to take a shot down field Tua had to check down because of a free rusher.
We need all these young guys to keep playing and build some chemistry moving forward. That includes Tua.
Krishna says:
November 21, 2021 at 4:57 pm
Saying the same! You people need to lighten up…lol
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I’m 100% with ya, Bro!
Tim Knight says:
November 21, 2021 at 4:54 pm
You can basically call out his number when you hear holding.
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I couldn’t have said it better, Tim… except I changed your “here” to “hear” above. 😉
I don’t worry about that stuff. It’s basically typing what I’m sounding out. If I was writing a paper I’d be more diligent. LOL
LOL 😉
ALL GOOD, Brother!
Another nice stat was when Tua was throwing the ball to the Jets he had 100% compl ratio!
1:1
Stellar. As always, a contribution!
CavalierKong says:
November 21, 2021 at 4:59 pm
I mentioned to my wife, I wasn’t sure who the commentator was, but he was pretty good.
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Yessir, Adam Archuleta was EXCELLENT as a commentator today.
And I don’t recall if it was Adam or Greg Gumbel who said it early on in the broadcast, in reference to Hunt’s non-TD last week: nice play, don’t ever do it again. CLEAR reference to “Major League”, which I posted this past week!
That TD to Mack Hollins, Tua had to pick up his underwear after that throw, Hollins had to wait on the ball.
That’s pretty normal on long throws when a QB escapes pressure
Did you want him to high point it? Or are you just being who you are?
I know its a lot to ask for but next time hit him in stride
Great contribution! At least you’re thinking…lmao.
Hollins is a beast!
Tua on the day — 27 completions on 33 attempts for 273 yards, an 8.3 average, with 2 TDs and 1 INT for a 108.7 QB rating.
He didn’t dominated but that completion percentage is off the charts. Tua has the close in game working well.
HEY BAIL BOND MIKE; THANKS for recognizing I was REAL CLOSE to picking the exact score. Just a lucky guess, of course. But I SURE LIKED the offensive run/pass balance during this game. NOW, if we just had an O-Line that was BETTER THAN THE NFL AVERAGE we COULD have thrown more deep passes. But that’s impossible to achieve right now. But I sure hope that at least 2 of our first three draft picks in the next draft are O-Linemen. And I hope EVEN STRONGER that Grier’s not doing the picking.
FIRE HIS ASS!!!
Some games across the league, Buffalo got Buffalo’d
The Cam Newton hype, held over from his NE days I’m sure, was just that
Tannehill can’t carry an offense, as well.
Tua had one WTF throw….mostly a solid game, imo. And, given opportunities could have done more.
hey we’re 4-7 two games in the win column from contending, next week,
the chrgers play Pitts one of those teams have to fall, same with raiders vs cincy, Buff at N.O. indy @TB, cleve vs balt
if we can just take care of business next week it could get interesting.
Interesting maybe, but we need to win out for a shot, if we’re thinking playoffs
We’re 4th to last in the AFC. But yeah could see us going on a run where possible comes into play. Better beat the Panthers next week though. Cause if don’t all over with absolute surety.
M13 & Bookman
Yeah I consistently don’t like the way they call plays
Some of It is fear of the sack but and how bad our OL is
But it seems more like they coach scared of mistakes
Taking the ball out of you QBs hands so much in the red zone inexcusable
+100000000000000000000000
Exactly, it really is disturbing to see the when they put it in his hands he throws a TD pass.
You line up in the wildcat 1st and goal from inside the 5, get a motion penalty and then line up exactly the same and call the same play. I don’t get it.
You script a creative first drive, with pace, once again, then don’t know how to call plays the rest of the game? Unacceptable from a professional team
First sentence reads wrong, meant to convey that as soon as they put it in Tuas hands at the goal line, he threw a TD pass, smh with the wildcat and Wilson HB pass crap
It takes them a week to script ONE play….then, how do expect them to call the rest of the game? Lol…
I don’t think that was the wildcat, it was just a direct snap to Gaskin, i think that was a good addition to the playbook.
What it is called is just semantics
I like the fact that they lined gaskin behind Tua and did a little of that direct snap
But I didn’t like that they seemed so focused on using the wildcat and direct snap in the redzone
But that didn’t piss me off as giving the ball to a wr to throw it in the end zone at a crucial time – that’s just dumb
Agree
I didn’t like that WR to throw play either.
OK the pigkitty avi is making me laugh 😂
It’s panther week now and I’m ready
Why the hell would anyone pitch a tent hanging on the side of a mountain ??
When you are our age and still pitch a tent, who cares where it is. 😂
At my age ?! My go to tent is La Quinta or Marriot …
Couple of FitBit commercials have people sleeping tents that are. Ailed into and hanging off a mountainside.. Nothing good can come from that
Nailed into …
Damn I forgot you were Canadian and missed my joke. Pitching a tent out here is popping a “ you know the thing” 😎👍🥃🥃🐕
Unreal in the Dallas KC game that a facemask wasnt called
Ok they fixed it
Wow kickers suck this year
Then Cincy nailed a 53 Yder
I bought a Jason Sanders jersey… figures.
He’s had a tough season after a great 2020.
He’s taken some knocks, but then last season he was All Pro. No where to go but down.
They tried the complete blitz package today, but Flacco was a lot better at dealing with it. He still had to get it out quick and couldn’t go for the deep ball he is known for….. but still different. Think it a perfect package to use against a young QB. Not so sure when a vet like say Brady or Rodgers.
Far be it from me to compliment the jests
But some of their draft picks are coming along
Elijah Moore, Michael Carter…even Ashtyn Davis (year 2) had an interception.
We scrutinize every play Tua has which is normal as fans. But don’t think every QB in the league even the elite ones are throwing perfect passes every time. It’s about consistency not perfection.
Exactly
But for the record, his bad throws have been just horrible…yuk
Shhhsh !! Somebody on here will disagree. 😎🐕
I’m cool with his passes. And he seems accurate. My only problem is how far they go….. or don’t go. Not much deep game in the kid.
Here’s the way I see it. Time in the pocket for deep drops is not usually there and are our receivers open deep often? It’s not just about the QB throwing it deep, lots of other players are involved in plays like that.
If the offense continues to gel and get better we might see some more deep stuff. But we probably need more talent too.
There’s not much deep game in our o-line or the offense. You have to have time to throw deep. They know our QB won’t most of the time so they call their game that way.
But at that point you are pretty much saying he doesn’t throw deep cause the OL and the receivers suck. I sense something more than that. Think he is a fan of the short passing game. And hey that can win you a Super Bowl if done right, but my take on him.
Think Tua is fan of short game ? Or our OCs ??
Cincy kicker 3-3 over 50 yds today
Zonas has missed 1-2 plus a PA, Crosby missed , KC kicker missed … lot underwhelming this year
Stanger – make no mistake, Tua is a short and intermediate passer. Nothing wrong with that. He can throw deep but until our offense is capable of pass protecting on a regular basis, this offense will continue to be predominantly short stuff with some intermediate and very little deep. It’s not just Tua, Brissett never threw deep either but he did when he played for the Colts.
I thought he threw deep a lot at Bama, mostly to WIDE OPEN people but thought he had the arm ,.. as ya say won’t know until we can block longer than 1.1 seconds
Agreed. He’s not a mad bomber. He’s a precision QB. We can’t set up quality play-action passing which usually is where you get some deep strikes, because we can’t run well enough to set it up (blocking), and we can’t protect deep drops (blocking). If we tried to throw deep more regardless of the deficiencies, we’d probably take more sacks and have more turnovers. Then we’d complain about why we keep doing that. LOL
Try dat. 🤡
Or TRU
Pretty much what I was saying combined with would like to see him throw deep more. And as a QB watcher you more sophisticated football guys make fun at times (not talking you)….. I get to watch where his eyes are going. They don’t go deep much. Talking don’t even look deep and then go short-to-middle if not there.
Wouldn’t doubt it. When you know you have limited time, your decision making speeds up so much. Only way that changes is consistent pass blocking from the o-line.
And has been no sign of that yet
Cincy kicker misses a PAT after 3 50+ yd gfs 🤔
Might not matter, the Raiders are still down by two scores with 4+ remaining.
Ha!!! Carr throws a pick.
No it won’t , as Mixon scores.. was an addendum to the kicker issues this year
Over 50 yards in the air
Tua is smart. He’d rather take positive yardage than wait until something bad happens. I’m happy he’s not standing back there holding the football taking a lot of unnecessary sacks.
+100%
Yeah like what Daniel Jones does behind a poor OL. Tua’s clock is quick. We need more players that are YAC guys. If we could slice and dice defenses up with 7-10 yard quick routes like slants and outs, make a guy miss and pickup chunk yardage consistently, nobody would care about deep bombs so much. We’d hit them here and there and that would just be adding to the mix.
I think there will be quite a bit of new personnel on offense next year. Work with some core guys who are productive and add some more punch, mainly at WR and RB. That said, the OL needs to be addressed big time.
We really need to invest in a running game to see Tua’s full potential
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Maybe 2022 will be the year we draft a RB in the first 3 rounds, and don’t trade 2 picks to do it!😒
Agreed — his type of game matches up perfectly to a good running game….. but then that means a good OL. Are those available on ebay?
We can probably add 2 vets via free agency and the Continue to invest in our young OL
Seems like we need a C, T and stud RB.
I don’t know the kids name but the RB from UCLA is special.
Prater , Zona misses again
Butler misses
Butker
Lol I read your frustration, had to correct his name three times … 51 yds so I ALMOST give him a pass on it
An OL should be our first priority, imo. I’d really like to see that first, then, get rid of our entire #1 WR Unit (cough, cough), except Gesicki and Waddle, then, get a RB.
Get rid of OCs….probably best as a first step. They’re fucking clueless!
Next 3 games.
Panthers
Giants
Jets
All at The Rock!
Might go to Jets game.
Could pick up some business. Have seen more Jets fans go out in cuffs than for all other teams combined.
Krishna – I agree with Tim though. We can’t keep drafting O-line, especially early. We need to pick up a vet or two. That would really solidify the line. Get 2 good veterans, spend the money in FA in the trenches and draft skill players.
Yep
Draft, sign all of the above. Keep doing it until we get an OL
We need more players that are YAC guys.
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When you google YAC, a highlight video of Jameson Williams pops up. Just sayin.
Maybe so! And, not disagreeing with TK, at all. Just think it’s an OL is best chance of success over RB, WRs, or “skill” players at this point and coaches that know how to coach an offense. It’s more basic sound football to me.
That was to Mike E 7:02 post
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We need some proven vets and leadership on the OL. I’d sign two in FA at whatever position and add one somewhat early in the draft and keep developing. I’d also sign a vet WR who can make some big plays. Then I’d draft a top WR and RB prospect.
Teams are focusing on Waddle and no other WRs can really make them pay for that. We make some plays here and there. But nothing explosive on a consistent basis.
I’m not saying don’t address defense, but I think we have a lot to work with there. I expect a big jolt of offense in the offseason.
As far as F/A WR’s, I was thinking maybe Christian Kirk from AZ.
We wouldn’t have to overpay for him leaving money to resign Ogbah/Gesicki and sign some solid OL.
I’m agreeing with except some think not. If I’m in disagreement, it’s only that thinking we could be with what we already have with a competent OL. With such OL, let’s replace WR unit and get a RB.
AND, after seeing OCs in box calling plays, it confirmed these jack offs should be fired tonight!
The OL needs to be upgraded however it happens. But don’t stop there. I don’t care who the GM or the coaches are, with the team we have now, we need more punch on offense.
Just an example of what I think could make this offense go. Add a vet WR like a Marvin Jones that some of us wanted this past offseason. He’s a pro WR that would help Tua. Then find a WR in the draft with Waddle or Deebo Samuel skills. Now you can’t focus on just one. Are we allowed to find a really good RB even in say the 2nd round? Gaskin is a solid gamer type RB. But as a #1 especially behind this OL is a flaw. Gaskin as a #2 is a strength. Improve on what we have and improve depth at the same time.
I’m looking at it like a Duper/Clayton/Moore trio. Speed and savvy. Challenge defenses at all positions with RB and TE too. We’ve got some talent but not enough.
Again I’m going by the core of the team we have now. No Watson trade stuff. If it’s Tua build around his strengths. Adding a bull of a back that can slam it in there for positive yardage on a consistent basis would be nice too. 😉
Agree with OL needs to come Via FA .. we have enough Pups , need someone to show em how to bite … still not sure we have competent OL coaching .. Draft a Top round RB, and WR with first 2 picks .. fill out with D and w/e else .. RESIGN GESICKI..
And we need to get some full time WRs.. enough with starting WR missing more games than they play in
Yep! Revamp the group building around Waddle. Got to add another guy that allows him more one on one opportunities. He has the quickness and speed to be more than a Landry type WR. Teams umbrella the shit out of him.
I’m keeping Mack Hollins around though. Quality depth WR, STs Ace and brings a lot of energy to the team. He makes positive plays as a really good all around football player.
Interesting games this week. Some good football today
Concerning the trap game comment,, Well I see Humor is gone here. No use in being subtle.
On another level a trap game is a game that is taken too lightly because it’s against a lesser valued opponent and occurs between two higher valued teams. The danger is the combination of over confidence and looking ahead.
The term has nothing to do with the team’s chances at the playoffs as long as the team is still fighting hard, which we certainly are. If we have any chance left, this was a must win game.
When you’re 3-7 every win is important. Because the next couple of losses basically knocks you out. You can’t take any team for granted.
A trap game is usually for a team that is like 9-4 and in position for playoff seeding – takes a 3-10 team for granted and loses 19-17.
At 4-7 we’re a trap opponent for teams.
We were the trap game for the Ravens. We can’t be a trap game for a team below us.
Naples : I was not pot shotting you.. more the idea , as Tim said that this team currently can “ overlook “ ANYONE as a gimme game , until we fix ourselves
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I was worried that we’d be flat coming off the emo win over our long time nemesis and legit contender Ravens, and to a degree, I was correct. The jest almost trapped us and stole a win. That’s why they sacrificed player development to start a guy with no future ar QB. They were trying to win, not tank for draft position.
I do understand where ya coming from.. I thought the Jags game was a layup fir us.. that did not go well either
So did the Bills. Lost 9-6. Crazy fuckin season. LOL
Naples, a win in the NFL is not easy. Look at how this season is going. The moment a team takes a team for granted their record takes a hit. Trap games are not for teams struggling to find themselves. Trap games are for teams with winning records that have legit championship aspirations. That’s not us. But I think we’re just engaging in semantics now.
If I’m a HC at 3-7 playing a 2-7 team the phrase “trap game” would never be discussed. Who are we to expect an easy win?
We should not. But how many points did their d give up recently. So the coaches can’t let us assume we’ll get 35 just by showing up. Also The coaches must make sure we aren’t flat after the emotional Ravens game.
Herbert looks really good. Confident as hell.
Yep , better runner than I thought too
He’s my FF QB and he’s very up and down. Tonight looks like the good Herbert. I need him to have a great game to win. 🙂
Physically speaking he was the best QB in last year’s draft with the most upside but also had the biggest bust potential
Josh Allen has been inconsistent too. He has all the talent in the world but the league catches up with you. Just like pitchers catch up with hitters and vice versa. That’s sports.
I thought some of our players played over confident against the Jags.
We don’t play another road game for 36 days.
Tua has 70% completion since the rib injury.
He is playing really well but you wouldn’t know based on what some people on this blog post
Just want to see him stay on the field and play games. He needs the experience.
Tua has 70% completion since Toba bought his jersey <<< there I fixed it for ya 🤡👍
You are the only one allowed to purchase a jersey
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Holland has been great since Son bought his as well
Tua had 108 QBR today.
I was just thinking about all the slow starts under Flores so far. We just need to lobby for a 10 game preseason.
Since the rib injury, Tua has a ypa of 7.3. Herbert has a 6.64 in the same time.
Holland looks the part of a FS. Can play deep and at the LOS. He’s just getting started. #8 shows up a lot. 🙂
This year’s draft class got off to a slow start but Waddle, Phillips and Holland all look to be serious talent. We can debate whether or not the trade for Waddle was worth but no question he has some serious talent
Draft was Kinda like their goal line offence, they try to get too cute …
Agreed. Would not be surprised if Phillips starts to go on a roll as a playmaking edge guy. I see a lot of upside in him. Big, fast, has instincts and plays to the whistle. He knows how to play DE, but watching him learn the finer points at OLB has been fun to watch. I’m going to repeat myself. He’s just getting started. 😉
Waddle was known for speed but what we’ve seen is really good route running and hands. He’ll make some big plays eventually. He’s a tough guy too.
Why the fuck are the Chargers passing on 1st and 2nd down up a TD with under 5 min to play. INT and Steelers have it again.
About to bite them in the ass yep
Wow. Fun game
Notice the pi call was reversed because it was ruled an uncatchable ball.
Yeah , was mentioned earlier today that you very seldom see that anymore
I just looked up the rule. Uncatchable is still a factor. Mike was right.
Tua with back to back weeks of 60+ yard completions. Just sayin….
You didn’t criticize or overlooked the “fact” that it was not a perfectly thrown, tight spiral, “in stride” pass….
……therefore, it probably doesn’t count….lol
it’s great Tua had two even three big downfield throws in 2 games, two of them to busted defenses and wide open rec’s, i mean that’s just fantastic to go along with the 50 screens!
his throws look weak, he’s not consistently hitting passes downfield that will stretch the D. they all don’t have to be bombs, mix in some 20 and 30 yard throws. we dink and dunk 99% of the time.
quit sucking up to your Tua teddy bear and let me know when that happens will ya?
Denial is a river in Egypt
Then what is football macular degeneration?
on a positive note, duke johnson looked great on the couple of runs that he had, i was astonished!
so that’s what a running game looks like!
34 passes, 33 runs, a balanced attack. who’da thunk that?
if flores wants to continue winning he has to try to achieve this every week.
those are winning stats.
Let’s find an OL that will make all our skill players look good….
….let’s try basic lessons of football 101! Lol!
let’s find a QB who can loosen up the opposing D and our OL will look good
Balanced attack! All on board!
CavalierKong says:
November 21, 2021 at 4:11 pm
I’ll take my pleasure where I can get it, lol.
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So what you are saying is you are a Watson supporter?
The “Handyman”
Mike E ?
This next game we will need that balance again and control the clock. Carolina is no pushover but kind of a Jekyll and Hyde team. They trounced the Cardinals in AZ and also beat Saints and Falcons. Four of their losses were 1 score games but then they lose big to the Giants.
Contain McCaffrey and Newton and we can win. Their defense can be solid and have a good pass rush that I am worried about led by sack artist Hassan Reddick who has 10.5 sacks in 11 games this season and Brian Burns with 7 sacks.
How the fuck are the Patriots #1 in the division again this week!!??
A game managing QB who makes few mistakes with a very good OL and their defense is playing lights out lately.
Swap out Tua and Jones and you will get same result for each team.
Absolutely and probably even a better record
Jones is light years ahead of Tua.
LOL. He’s not even inches ahead.
he’s 7-4 and leading the division, what is Tua? 4-7 and in 3rd place?
if that’s inches your feet could stretch to Hawaii
Blah, blah, blah Orob….you sound like a girl spreading gossip…and to be clear, Herd is no girl, but you….read like a girl! Lmao!
They also have had a pretty vanilla schedule so far
Ken says:
November 21, 2021 at 10:20 pm
This year’s draft class got off to a slow start but Waddle, Phillips and Holland all look to be serious talent. We can debate whether or not the trade for Waddle was worth but no question he has some serious talent.
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I was going to come and post something similar. I wanted the team to make an effort to bolster the run game and help out Tua, but I’m not sure I like this team with Phillips, Waddle, or Holland. I can’t argue against any of those picks right now, although I did want us to stay at 12 and take Parsons and get Javonte Williams in the second with the second first rounder being Edge or Wide receiver. Some had even mentioned in the offseason drafting Michael Carter if we missed out on Williams.
I really didn’t like the Hunter Long pick when it happened and thought it would have been a great spot to look at running back or even trade back for extra picks and still grab a running back. What’s done is done and this season could possibly be salvaged Lloyd Christmas style, but it’s unlikely. I just hope it’s properly addressed this offseason.
None of that matters until the offensive coaching gets better.. The sooner he’s able to become a coach on the field, the better, but he’s not going to be able to do that pulling him from QB in important situations. I didn’t like it the first game of the season and I definitely don’t like it now. Let the kid play.
Jury is still out on Hunter Long, we have a slew of T.E’s and 1 oversized frail slot guy. when the dust settles i’ll bet Hunter Long will make his mark.
We had a slew of TEs and a mismatch nightmare. Hunter Long was definitely a wasted pick, regardless of the injury. Gesicki does need to strengthen up and get a killer mindset, but he’s far from frail.
How would you know Long was a wasted pick? what you fail to understand is, it takes experience to play in the NFL, they are red shirting him to gain experience, partly because we still have gesicki on the roster also.
you haven’t really seen him play yet you’ve drawn a conclusion.
Watching that interception that Tua threw yesterday, it looked like either Waddle wasn’t where Tua was going to be or the ball just sailed on him. If the second happened, it could have been a result of trouble with his finger. Most of his other passes looked like his usual self though. Just some observations with what limited game film I have. I don’t have access to ask Tua what happened. It’s not a big deal. He’s still young. The interception is definitely not an indication that Tua sucks.
In the post game interview Tua’s comment on that INT was basically… “shouldn’t have thrown it.” And if you look at the replay there is a guy in front of the receiver a guy on the receiver and the lucky guy who chalked up the INT behind the receiver.
They should put Mack Hollins in the slot and leave Gepussy on the bench
Hilarious that Gesicki who is out there every fucking week is frail but Hunter Long who can’t seem to get on the field is the answer. That’s the same logic about our QB, that he can’t throw deep when the rush is on him most snaps before 2 seconds. Carry on . . .
Long will see the field next year, when Gesicki is no longer with the team.
That’s entirely possible, but you will be hating on Hunter Long at that point and lamenting that we didn’t retain Gesicki. I’ll be here to see it too
I will give Long a chance, as for gesicki, i’ve been telling you for a year he won’t get resigned, it would appear you are warming up to that idea finally.
and i’ll never look back on Gesicki, he gives away our position.
Mack Hollins certainly was a nice FA pickup. He produces when he gets a chance and is a willing and good blocker on run downs. He has 12 receptions this year, but three of them are TD’s. He balls on ST too. I’m glad the Eagles dropped him and we picked him up.
Hollins is a gamer. Anytime we’ve needed a play in the last 2 years that guys been there.
ocalarob says:
November 22, 2021 at 8:28 am
How would you know Long was a wasted pick? what you fail to understand is, it takes experience to play in the NFL, they are red shirting him to gain experience, partly because we still have gesicki on the roster also.
you haven’t really seen him play yet you’ve drawn a conclusion.
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We needed RB help more than we needed another TE. That’s the only conclusion that needed drawn.
We haven’t seen Long play because he’s too frail.
Rob – If we move on from Gesicki it won’t be because we have smart folks in our front office. It will be a sign of dysfunction. Gesicki will be an Pro Bowler on his next team. He’ll have 80 catches and 1200 yards and 5-10 TD’s. Hunter Long won’t be half the receiver Gesicki is.
I haven’t warmed up to the idea, they haven’t had contract talks that I’m aware of. It’s possible they plan on franchising him, I’m not sure why they didn’t start contract talks a while ago.
because he gives away our position, that’s why he has limited play/part time, we pass 80% of the time Gesicki is on the field. he telegraphs our play.
are you going to pay 58 million for that?
no way Jose!
and he will be on a losing team, because they won’t be able to run the ball and their qb will be under pressure.
Mike E. says:
November 22, 2021 at 8:35 am
Hilarious that Gesicki who is out there every fucking week is frail
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i’ve heard that argument before, “Gesicki is not frail because he doesn’t get hurt”
it has nothing to do with his ability to stay injury free,
it has to do with him getting man handled.
Vegas, Jacksonville & Atlanta were all very close games that the Dolphins should have won. Jax we up 3 points in the 4th and let them score two FG to win with the assistance of the Refs with a terrible spot.
Vegas got two huge phantom calls in OT to get into FG position to win.
Atlanta we were up by 2 pts with 2:30 to go and gave up 52 yards on two passes and allowed them to run 7 consecutive times for a total of 7 yds after getting into FG range on the first two passes.
That game should have been a W too. As bad as this team has been, we would be tied for first with the tie breaker in our favor but for a couple of plays.
I don’t think the team has been bad, but I think the coaching surely has been.
The Raiders game was also the stupid play call were the Raiders got the safety on us.
The coaches really need to figure out why after our fist, typically scripted opening drive we fall apart on offense. We are the worst team in the league in the 2nd & 3rd quarters. Damn! At least script the 1st drive of the 2nd half then!
Yeah, if it was just one or two games that happened it would not be an issue but it’s every damn game it happens.
First time hearing of this. This is not something we need. People are on their phones and shit way too much as it is. Now people are going to be obsessed with creating their own perfect virtual world to live in instead of fixing the one they currently live in. People wanting to escape the fucked up world they live in or feel/think they live in. This will destroy our youth and 20 somethings. They will be too busy creating a fake world to live in instead of making something of themselves.
LMAO, I bet that is on CAV’s play list, lol.
We have been the first team to score in every game this year except the BIlls (x2) and the Ravens. Just can’t take advantage of the lead. Seldom do they run when we have the lead. This week being a refreshing change to that.
ocalarob says:
November 22, 2021 at 8:21 am (Edit)
Jury is still out on Hunter Long, we have a slew of T.E’s and 1 oversized frail slot guy. when the dust settles i’ll bet Hunter Long will make his mark.
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If they don’t bite as pups…
They can’t bite as pups, if you don’t give them anything to bite
Or are they not getting anything to bite because they have no teeth
🤪 Lol
But that would be Mr Jim’s
When I had season seats for the Lakers back in late 80s, we’d pass this restaurant in the hood called Mr Jim’s Beefs
The slogan, on the building was, you needs no teeths to eat Mr Jim’s Beefs
https://www.lineups.com/nfl/team-stats/offense
This is a cool web-site that doesn’t have a pay wall. Lot’s of documentation of different splits, etc.
Interesting on Rock’s assessment, that we should/could be tied for first
But even so, we’re terrible and unwatchable
Pitt last night, with backup DBs, OL and WRs looked, just as bad, but somehow almost pulled it out
that’s the parity in the NFL these days. A bad bounce or a bad call is often enough to swing an entire game. I realize that we could have easily lost a couple that we did win too! NE was going in for the winning TD when Howard forced the fumble to save the game.
Perception is a funny thing. I would have bet that we have had way fewer offensive snaps than we have based upon how the scores have gone. Turns out only 5 teams have had more offensive snaps than us. We just aren’t producing and turning the opportunities in to points.
BTW we have logged the MOST defensive snaps in the league this year by a good margin with 740. (Seattle is next at 728 and then 712 each for Eagles and titans then it dropped down to 683 for the colts)
+/- total snaps is more important
Interesting comparison:
Russell Wilson – 7 games, 124-191, 64.9%, 1,564 yards, 223.4 ypg, long of 69, 10 TD, 3 INT, sacked 20, QBR 45.6
Tua – 7 games, 138-203, 68.0%, 1,471 yards, 210.1 ypg, long of 65, 9 TD, 6 INT, sacked 8, QBR 58.0
Tua’s games are not 7 full games either.
Was surprised Tua has only been sacked 8 times as compared to 18 for Brissett.
Tua has pocket pressence, but something is missing on our O, and it’s not just the OL
Those first drive tds show we can score, the problem is those numb skulls coaching haven’t figured out how to play call the rest of the game
Let’s take what we do best and use it on the first drive, then store it away for the next game
Because he has such a fast release. He really is playing well no matter what some people around here say
Brissett is like a statue in the pocket
Not true, he just has a slow reaction due to his lack of knowledge of what is happening, but once he recognizes what’s happening he’s pretty good, sometimes too late though, thus the sacks, throw aways, and bad plays
Statue is Flacco or Goff
Statue in that he holds the ball way too long and has a slow delivery
Put Watson back there and he would have a boat load of sacks
Yes, but also a boatload of big plays, due to how long he extends the play
Myles Gaskin is 25th in most yards (433) rushing and tied for 15th in the most carries (123). Doing the math, it only comes down to 3.5 a carry. Not good as compared to the NFL as a whole BUTTTT, just ahead of him (RB’s with 100 carries or more) at 3.6 a carry are:
Najee Harris, Pitt (188 carries)
Mark Ingram, HOU/NO (137 carries)
Alvin Kamara, NO (146 carries)
Darrel Williams, KC (100 carries)
The key to cover zero for us is frequency of use
Use it too often and it gets figured out
Use it in key situations and the element of surprise is a factor, that leads to TOs and wins
We need to learn how to play D without the tricks of the scheme
Ken are you just throwing shit at the wall🙄
No. I think Tua is doing just fine and we are starting to see big plays out of him. Watson takes too many sacks and comes at too high a price
Guys
I don’t know if you ever listen to anything I post
But if I post one thing you take seriously, it’s this:
DON’T EAT THE DORITOS IN JAPAN
I just sent that to me friend who is Japanese and is a PHd psychologist and asked him what the hell?
LOL, that is more confusing than anything else for a bag of chips. Are they saying that the crunch in the chips is like crunching ones balls?
Watson actually had 62 sacks before the Texans traded for Tunsil
It’s part of the reason they gave up so much for a LT
He had over 40 in each of the 2 years after that
So no question, he takes a lot of sacks
Hard to dismiss a good QB for the IMO though
I’m pretty sure Houston plans all along was to trade us back tunsil eventually bc they regretted that trade….lol
Again you guys use these clueless stats to promote your POV
When a QB like Watson, Wilson and Jackson get sacked a lot, you have to also look at how many plays they extend and what that value comes of it
In other words 40+ sacks from Watson isn’t the same as 40+ sacks from Tua or RT
Jaylen Waddle is ranked 26th in receiving yards (622) and ranked 5th in receptions (68) which is not bad for a rookie. BUTTTT, he is tied for 60th in 20+ yard receptions with a long of 36. Out of the top 38 in receiving yardage, Waddle is the only one with less than 10 yards a catch (9.1). There are 16 TE’s with more yards per catch than Waddle. He is also only ranked 27th in YAC.
Something is wrong with our scheme and/or there is not another WR threat to take defenses focus off Waddle.
On a good note, Waddle is ranked #10 in receptions for first downs.
Something is wrong with out scheme
I’m with Ken on Tua doing fine
I don’t think we need to rush big plays. I would like to see them – but I think under the circumstances, we should not be blaming the QB for that
Our OL is bad
And the scheme is just ridiculous
I mean it’s not a little bad, it’s really bad IMO
Saying Tua is fine is one thing, which I think he is, but he surely needs to step up, and he hasn’t produced close to his offseason hype
Do you know who would be good in this offense?
Jarvis Landry
I just read that he’s not a free agent again until 2023, but his cap hit in 2-23 is 16m but on1.5 is dead cap money
I smell a waiver this off-season
Would be cool to get some use out of one of my jerseys again
You used the J word
Cleveland is going to blow up that passing game. Mayfield sucks, OBJ is already gone and I don’t see them holding on to Landry for that price
David is going to lick your pig nuts for saying that.
Landry will still want more than he is worth. I would take Christian Kirk over him who is faster and will be cheaper.
In general, yes Landry would be good, but we’ve got Waddle in the slot
Do we need 2 WRs doing the same thing or are you saying to move one outside?
Wouldn’t mind having Jarvis in the slot and Waddle outside or even moving them around, alternating in the slot
I actually love the idea of bringing Landry back, get rid of Parker after next year and use his money for Landry, but no 15m on him
bailbondmike says:
November 22, 2021 at 10:13 am
LMAO, I bet that is on CAV’s play list, lol.
Rockphin says:
So what you are saying is you are a Watson supporter?
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LOL
Guys
David is not the only person here who liked Jarvis Landry
All of us, I believe, liked Jarvis Landry. He’s tough and a gamer. It’s just his price tag.
I really hate the Steelers. What dirty prick.
https://twitter.com/FTBVids_YT/status/1462630835115286529
That was not as bad as it looked if you watched the game. That DT was balling last night!
Not saying he didn’t deserve penalty.
It looked to me like he rolled him over and punched him in the gut well after the play was over. What mitigates it?
BBMike
I always like Christian Kirk and I wanted to draft him once upon a draft, but he feels very close to what we have in waddle
And Kirk has missed some games bc of injury whereas Landry is durable and plays almost every week and right now, looking at our WR crew which doubles as extras from ER, I’m putting a premium on healthy wideouts
Waddle is significantly better than Kirk imo. Kirk is not really what we need. We need a healthy Parker type of WR not sure who that is at this moment
if you took a poll and polled a lot of people most on the time the majority is correct.
i just wonder why that standard doesn’t apply here?
Tua will never be the QB watson is. sorry it just won’t happen.
and if you won’t take my word for it, just ask the professional evaluators who were relentless in their pursuit of watson. and some of them run your favorite team.
Majority of talent evaluators have never said Tua has a weak arm
let’s just say he doesn’t have a strong arm, fair enough?
I think you have been proven wrong about his arm. Say it ORob: I was wrong 😃
FWIW I don’t necessarily think Tua will be as good as Watson but I think the price of trading for Watson and the cost of his contract will be very detrimental to the Team and I think Tua is plenty good enough
but what if the price for watson is not that bad? the texans will be against the wall come march 16th. he has to approve the trade, if he only will approve miami the texans will have a choice. take what Miami is offering or get hit with a 40 million cap #.
as for the cost of his contract it will be inline with any other QB of his stature.
There was one team that was relentless in pursuing Watson – the Dolphins….and it looks like that came from Ross who I wouldn’t call a professional evaluator….lol
Stats don’t lie – Watson takes a lot of sacks and he produces a lot of yards and TDs too
I’m not sure why you think people here that don’t want to pursue Watson are missing something. Stats aren’t the only reason I don’t want Watson. There’s more
– it will cost a lost of pics
– it will take a chunk of our cap room
– he abandoned his team and demanded a trade mid contract. Watson is not missing games now bc of legal issues. WATSON is a holdout
– he’s got serious legal issues that may jeopardize his career but a a minimum will probably hurt some playing time
– we just drafted a QB a few years ago we should be committed to
– it will cost a lost of pics.
the price will come down when his $ is ready to hit the texans cap#
– it will take a chunk of our cap room
he will get paid just like other teams pay their top qb
– he abandoned his team and demanded a trade mid contract. Watson is not missing games now bc of legal issues. WATSON is a holdout
the texans are holding watson out, after the disfunction there do you blame him for wanting out?
– he’s got serious legal issues that may jeopardize his career but a a minimum will probably hurt some playing time
not sure how serious they are, it would appear he was ready to settle until the deal went south, so obviously there’s a number on the table, also no indictments either.
– we just drafted a QB a few years ago we should be committed to
he sucks
Steve and Ken
I get your criticism about needing an outside receiver
But I said this offense
Even when Parker is healthy p they use him mostly as a slot receiver
We just are designing plays to use the outside deep side of the field too much
Tua rarely throws outside the numbers, he doesn’t have the arm strength,
why do you need an outside rec?
Only two games back in the win column, need to get to one next week.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace/