Dolphins franchise again embroiled in negative controversy

Once again my fellow Dolphins fans, we have to endure another period of time where our team is in the news for all the wrong reasons. This was supposed to be the weeks of excitement about finding the right Head Coach to lead our team to success for the next decade or so. Instead, we’re left with accusations against our owner, GM and team which could hurt our chances of securing the right candidate for our Head Coach vacancy. In 2013 we had the “Bullygate Scandal” while Joe Philbin was our Head Coach. Now in 2022, we have the “Tank Scandal”, where our recent former Head Coach Brian Flores alleged that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross offered Flores an extra $100K per game if the Dolphins lost in 2019 in order to secure a high draft pick.

Of course it matters whether these things are true or not, but the fact is, even if they aren’t, the damage is done. The NFL is not going to help us in any way if they find no wrongdoing. We’re damaged goods regardless. Controversies tend to linger around things even after the air has supposedly been cleared. The Jacksonville Jaguars are about to hire Doug Pederson as their Head Coach. Jim Harbaugh who was never interviewed by our Dolphins has told Michigan he’s returning for the 2022 season. Eric Bieniemy is getting another crack at an interview with the New Orleans Saints. The Dolphins will be interviewing both Mike McDaniel and Kellen Moore. I honestly wonder what is going through both of these guy’s minds considering the state of the Dolphins Franchise.

If there is any evidence that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross tried to incentivize HC Brian Flores to purposely lose games there will be significant punishment. I don’t know if Ross will be the sole recipient of said punishment or if the NFL will punish both the owner and the team. Obviously, the great majority of us would prefer they take the team away from Ross and leave the Dolphins Franchise alone. We’ve been through enough. Punishment such as taking away numerous draft picks would hurt. I feel like our roster is getting closer and a strong free agency along with with a good draft could really improve our roster. Take away a handful of draft picks, maybe our 1st RD picks this year and next and the next, and that hurts us badly because we have multiple picks next season in ’23 which would give us some nice flexibility to stand pat with two 1st rounders or move up if some reason if we decide to get a QB. It wouldn’t be the end of the world, but it would be unfortunate to fans who get punished so often by bad management of this team over the last couple of decades. We could use a break.

I feel like we’d be lucky to get Mike McDaniel at this point, and I’d be happy if we do. I made it clear that none of the candidates, with the exception of Jim Harbaugh really excited me, but McDaniel would be my preference out of who is left. Let’s get our Head Coach and then we’ll sit back and watch the drama unfold. Nothing would make me happier to find out Flores was just a spiteful, lying sack of shit and manufactured this whole story to drag the Dolphins through the mud after being jilted by the NY Giants, his dream job. BTW, I think his other allegations are very thin at best, against the Broncos and even more against the Giants. We know Bill Belichick is NFL royalty, but his word doesn’t mean squat here. He’s not employed by the New York Giants and I think those texts are meaningless to everyone except Bill Belichick, Brian Flores, and Brian Daboll who now probably feels bad for Brian Flores, or maybe he doesn’t and is reveling in this silliness.

I’d be lying if I were to say I’m confident that we’re clean. I don’t hate Stephen Ross like some of y’all do, I think he spends a lot of money trying to improve this team. Yes, he’s gone about some things the wrong way, especially for such an established businessman. We know he courted Jim Harbaugh while Tony Sparano was still the Dolphins Head Coach. So is it possible that Stephen Ross offered Flores money to tank to get a franchise QB, of course it is. I feel that Ross’s reputation could hurt us here in an investigation. We’ll see how this all plays out. It would be great to come out on top for a change.

As many of you already know, our friend Jon “Stanger” has been released from the hospital and is now doing inpatient physical and occupational therapy, which could be approximately a 2 week gig. It’s amazing how far he’s come and now the light really is close at the end of the tunnel. So happy for him!

#stangerstrong

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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1,387 Responses to Dolphins franchise again embroiled in negative controversy

  1. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    Love this snap ………. that’s my dad, that is!

  2. boulderfinfan's avatar boulderfinfan says:

    I hate it when I read this shit. I don’t think herbert is so much better than Tua. he just has a running game and a better oline.

    Mando: “Grier missed on the biggest call of his career, which was picking Tagovailoa over Justin Herbert. “

  3. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    Good to see Deshaun is keeping busy

  4. boulderfinfan's avatar boulderfinfan says:

    I’m reading that McDaniel might pursue Raheem Mostert of the niners. I don’t know much about him other than he tore his ACL last year.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I don’t mind him bringing guys who already know the offense. It will only help bring things along which is why I like the idea of bringing in Tomlinson. One of the 49er’s backup OG’s is a FA also.

  5. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    McDaniel has already done more for Tua than the previous coach. He phoned him from the jet on his way to Miami telling Tua he is going to get all of the greatness out of him and loves his work ethic. I am paraphrasing, but the exchange was awesome.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      /\ /\ /\

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      From the article via PFT:

      The Dolphins appear to be all-in on quarterback Tua Tagovailoa.

      Miami posted a video to social media on Tuesday of new head coach Mike McDaniel talking to Tagovailoa from the private jet taking him to South Florida to begin his new job. McDaniel vocalized his excitement to work with the young quarterback.

      We’re going to have an extensive professional relationship, my man,” McDaniel told Tagovailoa. “One thing I know about you is you have the ambition to be great. My job is to coach you, to get all that greatness out of you. And it’s going to be fun, man. It’s going to be work, but I know you’re not afraid of that. So this is an awesome day for me and I’m damn sure going to make sure that when you look back on this day, you’re going to be like, ‘Damn, that was one of the best days of my career,’ too. OK? But I’ll earn that from you. You got me?”

      McDaniel then turns to the camera and says, “Since you can’t hear him, he’s telling me how excited he is and that there’s no other coach he’d rather play for in the entire world, which I thought was nice since that’s the first time I’ve really talked to him.

      “It is an unbelievable opportunity for me that I do not plan on wasting in the slightest. I can promise you that. I’m all in. You’re going to get the best out of me that you can possibly get.”

      Tagovailoa completed 68 percent of his passes for 2,653 yards with 16 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in the 13 games of his second season. He also rushed for 128 yards and three touchdowns.

      The Dolphins won eight of their last nine games to finish the 2021 season 9-8. But with McDaniel’s offensive scheme, the club surely hopes Tagovailoa can become its undisputed franchise quarterback going forward.

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      Mr Pig, that is just lazy…lol

  6. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  7. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    This is what I want to see.
    “ Both the run game and the pass game,” McVay said. “He gets a lot of credit for being involved in the run game but when we worked together in Washington, he’s a guy that really sees the game through the totality of all 22. Not just what are the offensive guys doing. But what are the roles and responsibility of the defense? How can we capitalize on some of the things that they’re being coached to do to take advantage of that and try to manipulate their rules and put them in conflict with their eyes.”

  8. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    SB – I almost spit my sandwich out on that Lovie post. LMAO!!!

  10. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Go f**** yourself ambition
    I am trying to figure out what 5 letter word that starts with an F you were alluding to….

  11. boulderfinfan's avatar boulderfinfan says:

    “Report: Dolphins to interview Charles London for offensive coordinator”
    I guess he’s the QB coach for the falcons.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      What a bunch of fluff

      Didn’t read anything in there about ideas he has or being an innovator, or anything that made me think he’s been part of something special

      Looking at his face can sometimes be a clue good or bad, at first sight thought he had IT, but not quite sure

      At this time it’s a pass for me

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I liked, “He’s been excellent in terms of pass protection and those kinds of things; he’s got a wealth of knowledge in that area.”

  12. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Mr London has a relationship with a certain free agent samurai who was moved to RB…keep it quiet so a certain bounty hunter doesn’t blow his jet pack

  13. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Ken
    6h ago
    Latest QB drama is apparently Kyler Murray wants out of Arizona
    ReplyLike
    steveccnv
    steveccnv
    Ken
    6h ago
    Someone told him he’s the greatest to ever play the game, and it went to his head, but reality is he struggles with some of the same height issues Tua does

    I mentioned while watching his playoff game , he looked like he wanted to go play baseball.. which was one reason did not want us to draft him

  14. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Cool to see Coach McD showing Tua some love.

  15. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    The city of Philadelphia sucks donkey dicks. I have to be here two nights, but I can’t go into a restaurant or bar without proof of vaccine. This is what happens when you vote democrat.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Do we actually have a coach with a personality?
      It’s refreshing to listen to him have words flow from his mouth like normal people do. No ums no eyes all a flutter no regimented standard Coach speak.
      I’d say looking good so far.

  16. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  17. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Toga – No, they’re not required to fly.the only places requiring them are some of the big Democrat-run cities.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Can you Grub hub a lap dance?
      Asking for a friend

    • manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

      I can’t keep up with our mandates regulations… i k ow we have to get a 300 negative test done before we fly to Jamaica in three weeks , and another before we fly back … I leave all that crap up to the wife … “ tell me when I’m leaving, and wake me up 45 mins earlier”

  18. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    As far as interviewing or hiring young coaches for jobs like OC, if they were never an OC before they likely never called plays. So I ask, when does a guy get experience calling plays without doing it for the first time? Isn’t that how it works in the business world? You start of lower and work your way up to positions you never had before but people who offered you the job believe you’re qualified to do it.

    I don’t know much about Charles London but he does have 14 years of coaching experience as mostly a RBs coach and most recently QBs coach. His resume is similar to how a lot of coaches climbed the ranks. Not sure if he’ll be hired as our OC but he’s being considered.

  19. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    We find out Zach’s fate in 2 more nights. They really need to put him in the hall. It’s time.

  20. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    February 8, 2022 at 7:25 pm
    Can you Grub hub a lap dance?
    Asking for a friend
    Reply

    As I understand it, that has been the case for thousands of years before the existence of GrubHub

  21. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The oldest profession and all

  22. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    That video of Mike McDaniel calling Tua should pretty much put an end to all the replace Tua rumors and such. I think that was done purposely to squash it.

    It’s really important for a QB to know the coach has his back. Now Tua can get to work knowing that and the outside media nonsense is just that, nonsense! 🙂

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      McD has Tua’s back more without ever meeting him than Flores ever did.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Agree – I don’t think Flores did Tua any favors while he was here

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yep! No more Watson rumors. Jimmy G, nah! It’s Tua’s job and now he has to prove he can take his game to another level.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I don’t want to disturb McDaniel’s honeymoon right now, but he also must prove he can be a legit HC… thus taking his own game to another level. Hoping for the best!

  23. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 8, 2022 at 4:20 pm
    Mr London has a relationship with a certain free agent samurai who was moved to RB…keep it quiet so a certain bounty hunter doesn’t blow his jet pack
    ————
    😀 😆

    Cordarrelle is a mixed bag for me at this point. I mean, he’s going to be 31 years old once the season begins, yet he still has a LOT of tread left on his tires. IF the price is right, I’d love for him to come to Miami… only now that McDaniel is our HC and we/he could use a Deebo Samuel-type.

  24. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Imagine a new coach calling and endorsing his QB. What a fucking concept? Lmao….

    Tua’s barely finished a rookie season.

    Hmmm…..we shall see. Hope for the best for sure.

    McDaniel seems like he can he’s ready to lead.

  25. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    February 8, 2022 at 7:23 pm
    Do we actually have a coach with a personality?
    It’s refreshing to listen to him have words flow from his mouth like normal people do. No ums no eyes all a flutter no regimented standard Coach speak.
    I’d say looking good so far.
    —————–
    Just always beware of “a little bit” popping up in ANY HC who comes to Miami. It’s been tried and true ever since Tony Sparano (RIP) came to town in 2008.

  26. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Was thinking when a new head coach joins a team, think about how much film they have to watch to see what they have as far as talent. They also have to meet the players to get a feel for them as people. It’s an overwhelming job.

  27. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Krishna says:
    February 8, 2022 at 8:49 pm
    A little bit of what? What does that mean? I’ve never heard that, sorry.
    —————
    LOL, it’s not a little bit of anything in particular. It’s more like a generic fill-in line for lack of having anything better to say.

    Generic examples:
    – We’ve been working on communication on the Defensive side a little bit
    – The run-game has been coming together a little bit over recent weeks
    – We try to keep opposing Offenses guessing what we’re going to do a little bit

    EVERY coach since Sparano does this regularly in their pressers.

  28. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Ok…not sure any coach has done a little bit for the last 20-30 years. I still don’t get it.

    It’s been a shitshow, imo, and there’s no little bit of shit….there’s a lot….lol.

  29. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Talked to Stanger tonight. One week to his discharge home. He has been reading the blog but he can’t post from his phone. He should be back on here in about a week

  30. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I think the job of NFL HC is a very hard job. I think we as fans forget that sometimes. It’s barely about coaching. It’s an administrative job. A PR job. An HR job. I have no idea what sort of HC McD may become. I had no idea who he was a few months ago. He’s bright. You can tell that by how he speaks. He fits the bill of the young, genius coach/mind…if that’s what you’re into. Whether or not he can be a HC, we’ll see.
    ***
    Designing plays and calling plays are two totally different things. It sounds like McD may have experience and a propensity to evaluate defenses and not just design offensive plays. I think there’s an art and a science to calling plays, but a big part of it is knowing the defense and how they’re playing you. And then….adjusting to their adjustments. That’s where I think a lot of play callers struggle.
    ***
    Last thought. Players make plays look great. Take Deebo out of the equation in SF, and I guarantee you those plays don’t look so cool. It’s about the players. If you noticed, Deebo was starting to slow down and get worn down physically as the playoffs went along. I’m not sure that even he can keep doing this for multiple seasons. I really hope we don’t try to replicate what SF did because I’ll bet you teams are already figuring out how to defend it. I want a well rounded offense. One that can do whatever it wants whenever it wants to do it. A strong running game would be great, but it won’t matter if we can’t throw the ball efficiently and score points. I want a strong running game too, but that’s not gonna win anything anymore.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      So…everyone is marketing McDaniel as that guy. And, good coaches can make players better. We haven’t had good coaching in some time, imo.

      I’ll ask the board. Please, remind me of any good coach we’ve had, white, black or colored. Lol….

      Special teams doesn’t count….lol

  31. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Great to hear about stanger! 👍

  32. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Awesome news about Stanger…what a fighter!

  33. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Ken says:
    February 8, 2022 at 10:38 am
    Latest QB drama is apparently Kyler Murray wants out of Arizona
    ——————
    I’ll share a rumor I’d heard… who knows if it’s true, so take it with a grain of salt: Kyler doesn’t want out of the Arizona Cardinals, he wants out of the NFL… and he wants to play baseball in the major leagues.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I also saw that Christian Kirk’s mother chimed in, saying something to the effect that her son will get more targets if Kyler leaves Arizona. WTF?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        One more rumor I’d heard today: Brady is likely to come back to the NFL… pulling a Brett Favre. This is supposedly based on statements he made during the filming of his new documentary (just last week, post-retirement announcement), which has yet to air.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        I have totally predicted Brady will pull a Favre

  34. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Krishna,
    I don’t really care if we had any good coaches. I just hope we will have good ones now and in the future. As Garth tells us; “Live in the now, man!” Lol
    ***

  35. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The potential is certainly there to see many QBs change teams this offseason… and mind you, top-notch QBs such as Brady, A-Rod, Wilson, Carr, and now the possibility of Murray going to MLB.

    FA is going to be CRAZY this year!

  36. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    “but he also must prove he can be a legit HC”

    M13, isn’t that the case with all first time HC’s? McDaniel said that to Tua, but I have to earn that.

    You seem to have this desire to point out only failures of Dolphins 1st time HC’s and not the ones who have succeeded across the league. Of the 32 teams in the 2021 season, 25 of them are 1st time HC’s. You make it seem like Ross is the only owner who goes that route.

    We all know our last 3 HC’s didn’t get the job done. Yes Ross was involved in hiring Philbin, Gase and Flores. Now McDaniel is the 4th. Ross was not involved in hiring Sparano. Not sure why you keep bringing him up.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Bro, HWH hired Parcells as ‘czar’, who then hired Sparano. Never said Ross hired Sparano, not once. We both know that.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Besides Harbaugh, and possibly Pederson (who I wasn’t especially excited about), there wasn’t a veteran HC out there that I wanted. Not sure who M could have preferred unless it was Pederson.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Wha? I thought I made it very clear I preferred Brian Daboll, along with Tim. I never said I preferred a veteran HC… just a coach who has connections in the league to assemble a legit staff… unlike Philbin, Gase, and Flores.

        Daboll was my guy.

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Randy, for whatever reason the 49ers could not keep RBs healthy the last few years. Mostert was the main man followed by 4-5 different guys. Then Deebo became a factor because he’s a unique talent and playmaker. But rookie Elijah Mitchell was the main RB for them this year.

  38. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    We’ll see what McDaniel can do and assemble. As for me? I’m actually pretty stoked, believe it or not! I’ve always liked McDaniel… I merely question if he can assemble a staff.

  39. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, all coaches who have been doing this for over a decade have connections in the NFL. You keep acting like we keep hiring HC’s from the collegiate level to make your point. I liked Daboll as my first choice but he’s also a first time HC. I’m having a hard time understanding your points on all of this. You said the other day Philbin had 28 years coaching experience yet he had no connections. Daboll has 24 but he does?

    Think about it this way, if we had hired Sean McVay a few years back you would have said the same thing about him with only 9 years coaching experience at the NFL level. He’s coaching in his 2nd Super Bowl in 5 years as HC. It’s about finding the right guy. It’s not easy.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Man, quality over quantity.

      I’d have to write an article to explain what I mean, but let’s keep it short: some bubble-up like 7-Up. Let’s hope the meddling, dumb fuck Steve Ross finally got it right. Ross already has 3 strikes against him, yaknowwhadImean?

      I want somebody who can form a legit STAFF: THAT is the lesson after all of Steve Ross’ hires/failures.

      If Mike McDaniel can be that guy, I’M RIDIN’ WIT’ HIM!!! But like my guy Old Dolfan always says, SHOW ME. If McDaniel can show me, he just might become the best hire since Don Shula.

      I’m tired of being let down, beat down, and stepped on as a Miami Dolphins fan. Only time will tell, my friend.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Right… just you and OD really know what’s going on. Like when you both decided only the two of you said the OL was a problem a decade ago. LOL

        I hope Ross sells the team just to watch the two of you decide who the next scapegoat is? LOL

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Hey, Old Dolfan and I didn’t hire these coaches who neglected our O-Line, Bro! 😉

  40. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The failures of our last 3 HC’s was not about hiring a legit coaching staff. The team wasn’t good enough and the HC’s were not good enough.

    A lot of us want to see the same defensive system retained. A few years ago did anyone really know who Josh Boyer was? Now many of us want him to stay after two years as DC.

    I’m seeing a lot of inconsistencies in the discussions about coaches. Talent on the field is the key.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      That’s fair. Do you hold Chris Grier accountable for any of this?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yes, do I have repeat everything I’ve said about it? LOL

        Quick Summary: Ross, Grier and Flores were on the same page to blow it up and start over in 2019. They accumulated draft picks and worked on cleaning up the cap issues. They built mostly through the draft. We’ve got some good core players to build on.

        For me Grier’s biggest mistake was going too young too quick. But here we are in 2022 with a new HC, the most cap space in the league and a solid draft with a 1, 2, 3, 4, 4 etc. Two 1st round picks in 2023. Wow!!! He totally fucked us!!! I don’t get it!

        Does Grier not get the same props for 10-6 and 9-8 or is that just Flores?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        My bad, dude… and sorry. I see so many takes on here it’s difficult to keep track of who said what. I said something like this to Ken (‘do I have to repeat myself!’) a couple of weeks ago, and then I felt bad about it after he said sorry to me.

  41. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Krishna says:
    February 8, 2022 at 10:33 pm
    I would let/assist him in finding his people. He’s been in the pro ranks a while….let’s see.
    ——————-
    I agree with let’s see, but he’s only ever been around the Shanahans (Kyle, in particular). It’s not as though he’s going to poach half of Kyle’s staff.

    Conversely, Brian Daboll has been all over the place (experience with that many more individuals). What I mean is that Daboll’s net is bigger, wider, and longer.

  42. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I SWEAR, I’m NOT trying to piss in anybody’s Cheerios! I appreciate the takes from others, even if y’all don’t appreciate mine.

    Honestly (and again), I really like Mike McDaniel! I’ve zero doubt that he’s going to be an excellent Xs-and-Os cat, his personality is most invigorating, I believe he can connect with the players on a level not seen in some time via coach-to-player relationships, and I’m absolutely rooting for him (on a personal level, as he and I are very much alike).

    GO MIKE MCDANIEL!!!
    GO PHINS!!!
    HELL YEAH!!!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s all good. As fans we’re all in the same boat. We have a new HC with a good core of players, draft capital and the most cap space. It could be worse. 😉

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        YESSIR, and CHEERS!!!

        Just realize that if nobody (me) pointed out the negatives, I’d be a bloody fanboy. I’m an analyst first and a fanboy last.

        IF the moderators here would have me write again, I’d be willing to do it. Many folks liked my writing being I captured both pros and cons, instead of just being a fanboy.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        NO, I am NOT calling anybody who writes here a “fanboy”, either. I want that to be CLEAR!

  43. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    WOW!!!

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      That is crazy

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      We were getting better on defense at that point with Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Tim Bowens, but as you all know, we never really had a top RB. Marino was also so banged up at that point, from ’95-’99. His achilles, his hip, knees.

  44. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The first and best thing coach McD did was to reach out to Tua, tell him you’re my QB and let’s get to work. He even made Tua laugh joking around. He relieved Tua of the outside stress. He told the media to move on without actually telling them that.

    Tua will be 2 years removed from the injury/rehab process he had to deal with entering the NFL. The injuries this year is part of the game. It happens. He knows the NFL is a different beast as opposed to being on a loaded team like Alabama in college. Tua has had his tough initiation in the NFL. In his 3rd year he has to show I’m worthy as a #5 draft pick. Hopefully McDaniel and his staff help him achieve that.

    I feel this is his best chance. The organization just showed him we’re all in on you. That’s his new pressure. But that’s for all players every year. Tua knows that.

    Go Phins!!!!

  45. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    What a shocker, China benefitting from calls in speed skating

  46. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Mf13ss, I’m pretty sure if you submitted an article on the state of our coaching/staffing pros/cons over the last 20-30 years and how theses concerns challenge our new HC, I’m sure the moderators would allow it. Or something along those lines.

    Then, perhaps I could understand you a little bit. 😀

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I find the rule so convoluted though. It’s been brought up numerous times, but why not hit the nail on the head again? The idea was that the Rooney Rule would get assistant coaches Head Coaching jobs. Why would you reward a team that has a black assistant coach who gets poached, when the it’s the other team that is fulfilling the Rooney Rule by giving that assistant coach a Head Coach position? Either both teams should be compensated, or just the team that makes that HC hire. There are a ton of black assistant coaches out there, so when a team hires one as HC, they should be rewarded, not the team they formerly worked for.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      The other thing I found interesting, and I’ll be nice, is the point that racism/prejudices exist in all races and cultures and it’s just as ugly on both sides of the fence.

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        It does and it is. Obama was every bit as divisive as Trump. BLM is the B-side to the KKK.

  47. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Football news is sooooooo slow this time of year. Why hasn’t McDaniel hired his entire staff and signed all the good free agents yet? LOL

  48. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    So the Panthers just hired Paul Pasqualoni as their DL Coach. I didn’t even know he was still alive.

  49. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    All you Jerseyites better step careful today. I’m on your turf.

  50. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Dan Orlovsky
    @danorlovsky7
    ·
    Feb 7
    Tua spent his time at Alabama playing under Steve Sarkisian-who ran Kyle Shanahan’s offense

    Mike McDaniels will be running-his version of-Kyle Shanahan’s offense

    Tua will be very very very comfortable in this system and scheme!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Now, if we can get him to throw from the pocket with the rush coming he’ll be great

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        no statues please … Tua has a good pocket presence, he just needs a pocket

        and he needs it to form more than 12% of the time.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        If we want a statue we can find one in Tenn

        Just watched some highlights on Tua, his pocket pressence has always been very good, wish I could find a lowlights video

        He’ll be better than fine once he gets some help on O

        If McD is worried about Gesicki’s blocking he shouldn’t be, just put him in the slot or out wide, his downfield ability is too important to this team, that has plenty of cap space, to not re-sign him

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Back to the highlights, watching them really is a thing of beauty, when the play works, with pocket movement, accuracy, quick throws, faking out defenders while running…

  51. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Chris Kouffman
    @ckparrot
    ·
    Feb 7
    Every now and then a bad quote comes out of a Dolphins defensive player about Tua, hidden behind the veil of anonymity. Some have speculated Xavien Howard. I’d say, probably not.
    Quote Tweet
    TiliHibiscus
    @tili____
    · Feb 6
    “Him (Tua) and Xavien Howard text all the time, their neighbours.. their always together, their chopping it up.. many people wouldnt think that Tua & X are homies, but their pretty damn close..”

    Tua x Xavien

  52. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Mike – At Atlantic City Airport for a couple hours then back to Philly for the night.

  53. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I totally agree with Steve about Gesicki and think what McDaniel did with Kittle!
    And Jucszizcszyszk has been a pro bowl guy a bunch under Shanahan.
    Couldn’t we patch together some Smythe, Shaheen, Hunter Long package to do that role without consuming a roster spot?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Surely a guy as innovative as McD is can find a way

      I mean against GB he sent the LT in motion, and he bowling balled the D, funniest play of the year, a close second might be Tua running over jets #30

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        Wilkins can go in motion and the D must respect that because he could take a pitch and run or flare out for a pass.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I’m sure we’ll see Wilkins doing lots of that this year

        Think I saw a video of Wilkins in McD’s office, wonder what they were talking about😏

  54. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      He understands the overall team result of running the ball, including clock management

    • boulderfinfan's avatar boulderfinfan says:

      Thanks for sharing the podcast. I like how he says he thinks of offensive plays as problem solving solutions. As the problem is what’s the defense the opponent is presenting.

  55. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Lol

      Not that it matters, just things that make you go hmmmm (for $200 Alex)

      More of a reason to think the law firm came to him

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I saw that last night

      Sometimes these things are sort of tit for tat
      There’s a lot of comparisons I don’t think are justified bc people are so desperate to undermine an argument

      But here I think Ancho makes a very good point
      Lack of representation in the legal industry is a real thing

      He’s holding the nfl up to a standard to be able to reverse historical discrimination and he’s not engaged in it himself when he can control it

  56. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Chris Kouffman
    @ckparrot
    ·
    Feb 7
    Mike McDaniel seems like a guy who likes to manipulate execution of plays, the footwork, choreography, timing, spacing, in order to create hesitation and subterfuge. To say that Tua m Tagovailoa would be a natural fit for that approach would probably be understating it.

  57. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    When McD talks about how he’s going to fix things, it’s obvious to me he gets the big picture, because of his detailed explanation

    Flores mentioned having Waddle and Fuller would open up the run game, but left it at that, as if just having them on the field would do it

  58. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Coordinators are key for any first time HC, especially on the other side of the ball from coaches specialty side

    Almost think it’s better to have a guy like Charles London as OC, than a more experienced guy, it would allow McD to groom him to his style, kind of like Flo did with Boyer

    Since McD will be calling the plays on O, think it would be hard to get a vet OC

  59. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Interview from FEB 3 with Flores lawyers. Seems like one of the guys at least knew him from before, but I don’t think they are from the same law firm. The hosts do some phoney devil’s advocate questions, but pretty much don’t hold these guys’ feet to the fire.

    https://dolphinstalk.com/2022/02/full-video-brian-flores-legal-team-on-wfan-hosts-push-back-on-lawyers-claims/

  60. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    If Flores can provide proof, I think the only case he has is against our team in regards to the bribing and attempted tampering, but that’s not racially motivated.
    The case against the Broncos is weak because it’s a perception that everyone was drunk and hungover. The case against New York is weak because the hiring wasn’t racially motivated. It was relationally motivated. Flores had the odds stacked against him in the interview because of the familiarity between the GM and Daboll, but if Daboll was black the relationship would have still been there. Daboll has proven he can get a QB to develop and Flores hasn’t. Both of those things put Flores behind the 8 ball and it was up to him to quash those concerns. He didn’t manage to do that. The Giants could have easily brought in someone else if they were just filling out the Rooney Rule but they went with Flores.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Because Flores had a chance

      They have to go to arbitration, so even if Ross did it, we may never know

      And all this crap about wanting to fight “the cause” really isn’t about fighting the cause, because if it was why would they bring Ross into it?

      • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

        Well the argument is that Ross would have never asked a white coach to tank, and then defamed him the way they did Flores after he was fired, painting him as an angry and difficult black man.
        The organization messed up when they said he wasn’t being fired for coaching reasons, when there was plenty of justification for that very reason.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      The case against the Broncos is trash

      But the case against the Dolphins is worse than the case against giants IMO

      In a discrimination suit, you don’t have to prove the motive behind the person (Daboll) hired, what he has to prove is that he wasn’t hired based on discriminatory reasons.

      What he is alleging is that he was only interviewed to “check boxes” of the Rooney rule. It’s not really a comparison between who was hired or not, so it doesn’t get it not why Daboll was hired – it’s still at is core ‘did you refuse to hire Flores bc of his race’. And the case flores makes is that he was never even seriously considered it was just for show bc he is black, which is inherently discriminatory.

      If you contrast that with his burden against the Dolphins, that he was wrongfully terminated based on race, the Dolphins really just have to demonstrate a non discriminatory reason for firing him – and that’s a lower threshold. Given his firing is consistent with what most coaches get (3 years) and his record wasn’t that much difference from his predecessors – that’s not so hard to prove or as convoluted with conjecture as the claim against the giants

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Basically you’re saying his lawsuit doesn’t have any legs to stand on

        Wonder, if they’re just putting this out there as something to use in the future, or maybe they thought more would join the class action

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I’m not saying that
        Bc it’s pretty loaded bc it’s a class action suit
        And the nfls history of discriminatory conduct is hard to deny

        People joining tHe class action is a difference maker on that

        But I don’t think the stuff against the teams individually can be examined as stated now
        And the Dolphins are tHe team that really just has to show a good reason for terminating him that’s not discriminatory

        The Broncos were barely mentioned at all

        And to me that means the giants have the hardest time

  61. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    WHEN IS McDaniel going to hire his staff!?!?!?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Sheesh settle down, he probably doesn’t even have a house yet….lol

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        well, what is his problem?!?!?! (6)
        Get on with it already! LOL

        Is he going to keep Boyer?
        I hear other members of the staff are interviewing for coordinator jobs and lateral position moves.
        Our D back coach is trying out for NYG DC position.

  62. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Piggy,
    I don’t think he was interviewed to check a box. Like I said, they could have brought any black candidate to do that. In the link I posted above, Flores’s lawyer said that Mara called Flores personally, before Schoen was even hired, to say he was the guy he was looking at. I think Mara truly wanted Flores, but then Schoen was able to plead his case and get his guy. Then Flores was given an opportunity to prove Schoen’s case wrong, but wasn’t able to do so. He wasn’t rejected from the job because of his race. It was about fit and familiarity. Ultimately Daboll was the best candidate for the franchise going forward.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t know why he was interviewed – but his argument is that he was interviewed to check a box

      I don’t disagree wIth what you are saying but those things are just guessing as to wha people are thinking, and the nature of guessing, in a lawsuit, is asking a judge or jury to make a decision. It’s basically an “issue of fact” -we don’t know we ask judges and jurors to hear evidence and guess

      So that’s why thats harder than what the Dolphins have to do

      The Dolphins just have to stack evidence of nondiscriminatory reasons he was fired vs the evidence he has stated is a discriminatory basis to fire him. So if a cafeteria employee wrote an email to Dolphins HR about Brian Flores being mean to her when the employee served him lunch, that’s admissible evidence. My guess is the Dolphins were weighing reasons to terminate Flores for some time – and there’s probably memos and emails and all kinds of stuff filed away.

      • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

        Well, I let it known very clearly that those are my personal thoughts on the matter. None of us were privy to any of these meetings or interviews, but I’m sure the Giants have copies of notes and calendars or other things that can validate what they are saying. Doesn’t the burden of proof fall on Flores legal team? Looking at the facts as an outsider, they don’t seem to have a case for discrimination based on skin color. He just wasn’t the right fit for the what they wanted to do.

  63. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Now shut up rock….lol

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      Notable players coached
      Christian Fauria, Matt Lepsis, Daniel Graham (2001 John Mackey Award Winner), Marcedes Lewis (2005 John Mackey Award Winner), Tony Gonzalez, Chris Cooley, Jordan Cameron, George Kittle (single-season NFL TE receiving record of 1,377 yards in 2018).
      ____

      Tough to take credit fo Gonzalez, but seems like he can get the most out of what he has.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      San Francisco tight ends coach and assistant head coach Jon Embree will join McDaniel in the same role, a league source confirmed Wednesday. Embree, 56, just finished his fifth season in San Francisco. Under his stewardship, George Kittle has emerged as one of the best tight ends in the league

      Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article258213278.html#storylink=cpy

    • boulderfinfan's avatar boulderfinfan says:

      He used to be the head coach of the colorado football team. Not sure how he would do as TE coach

  64. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  65. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    LOL, love that they brought back the Icky Woods Geico cold cuts commercial…

  66. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I heard the rumors the other day about Embree. That rumor was for OC though. Guess that is still up in the air.

    Don’t think they would be able to pull Tua’s old OC away from Texas, Steve Sarkisian.

  67. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ohio Mayor Says Ice Fishing Leads To Prostitution LOL
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-mayor-says-ice-fishing-191108428.html

  68. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Why hasn’t McDaniel had a press conference introducing him? Is that a typical thing all teams do?

  69. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Posted something the other day on Embree, think he was being considered in Denver

  70. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Jon Embree is joining Mike McDaniel’s staff with the #Dolphins as their assistant head coach and TEs coach,

    Can he teach them how to block and not just be big slow long-striding WR’s? (Gesicki)

  71. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    he is certainly not wide receiver fast and that is basically what he plays. Slot WR, but 2 closer to the OT.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Gesicki isn’t a speed demon, but I think you’ll find that he possesses the mean average of a standard WR… only as a TE.

      I understand what you’re saying, but he’s certainly not slow.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        He’s more of a WR and runs 4.6+ that’s pretty slow

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        He’s been USED more as a WR than a TE. Fact is, 4.6 for a TE is rather fast. Hopefully, McDaniel can unlock Gesicki as a TE.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Gesicki ran a 4.54 at the combine. For a 6-6 250 guy that’s pretty damn fast. But as well all know, he needs a few steps to get moving.

  72. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Hard to speak against the position coach that made a 5th round pick into George Kittle.

  73. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So the only reports I’ve seen on McDaniel trying to hire Vic Fangio as DC is from Omar.

  74. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Roger Goodell and the NFL are taking Flores’ accusation of Stephen Ross trying to tank very seriously. An owner can be voted out if they violate the integrity of the league.

  75. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  76. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    FaceTiming their favorite coach during pro bowl

  77. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  78. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Roger Goodell with astounding impotance on this one

    This guy is so limp via trying to say the right thing, he doesn’t realize when he is saying the wrong things

  79. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Is this the wife of the Ohio Mayor?

  80. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Mike Gesicki is a freak, dominates tight ends at NFL Scouting Combine
    Justin DiLoro
    March 3, 2018 6:23 pm ET

    Penn State’s Mike Gesicki was rated as one of the nation’s top tight ends this season. His performance at the 2018 NFL Scouting Combine may have solidified his spot as the number one tight end off the board at April’s NFL Draft.

    Gesicki, a senior from Manahawkin, New Jersey, simply stole the show with an unbelievable workout. He finished among the best in history in nearly every drill he competed in. Gesicki tied for the fastest 40-yard dash time among the tight ends.

    He also showed his physical prowess in other pre-fieldwork activities, registering 22 reps for the bench press, a broad jump of 10-feet-9-inches, and a vertical jump of 41.5 inches.

    NFL Research highlighted Gesicki’s accomplishments against NFL’s stars’ performances during their respective Combine activities. Simply put, Gesicki is a stud.

    The former Nittany Lion will bolster any team looking to expand their air game over the middle of the field. Gesicki showed well during pass-catching activities, most likely cementing his name as a day one selection.

    Mike Gesicki among 3 tight ends that should turn heads of Bills execs at NFL Combine

    For the Buffalo Bills, Gesicki would be an ideal complement to the smaller, shiftier Charles Clay, who is more of an ‘h-back’ type.

    Penn State TE Mike Gesicki at 2018 Combine:

    – Taller than Calvin Johnson
    – Stronger than Donald Penn
    – Faster than Antonio Brown
    – Jumps higher than Odell Beckham Jr.

  81. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I dare you to type in “who is the best RPO QB In the NFL” into google search.
    Read down the whole page of hits.

  82. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 9, 2022 at 6:36 pm
    Roger Goodell and the NFL are taking Flores’ accusation of Stephen Ross trying to tank very seriously. An owner can be voted out if they violate the integrity of the league.
    ——————–
    I’ve been talking about bad Roger Goodell has been for well over a decade… many have refuted me, but it’s all good. If Goodell can force Steve Ross out, I’m all for it.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      After that, we need someone to force Goodell out!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      The only thing people refuted when you bash Goodell is stating that it’s a waste of time. As long as he improves the NFL brand and makes them money, he’s not going anywhere. He works for the owners and they decide if he stays or goes.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Understood and recognized. It just seems to me that Goodell has turned the NFL into its own private island, for lack of better words. Lord Goodell has managed to trump the American Constitution… that bothers me, Brother.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Huh? How did he trump the American Constitution?

  83. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    BBM : you will be happy .. Zierlien mocked Jaemus Williams to us

  84. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, this is in line what you’ve been saying.

    Sean McVay not sad to see Mike McDaniel leave the NFC West

  85. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Naples, coaches and players who have worked with Mike McDaniel have nothing but love and respect for him. They don’t just say he’s a good coach and a good guy, congrats. They gush about him. There is a reason for that. That’s why we hired him. A HC has to earn respect or he cannot lead and teach. Those are the first two things a HC has to do. The strategy of football is not that complicated. It’s a people business first.

  86. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I wonder if Mike McDaniel makes himself the play caller on offense or does he hand that off to who he hires as OC?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I hope he hires an OC for that purpose

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        So he can focus on coaching the entire game? I lean that way too.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I don’t feel strongly about it, but theoretically I think the OC should be saying “this is my offense” and then be permitted to implement that in the game which requires playcalling duties

        The play you call affects the play you are going to call and that’s the offense at the end of the day, so if you build an offense but some one else calls the plays, that playcalling might not go hand in hand with design

  87. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – I watched the video. I see now. I do think it’s crazy that the NFL only rewards the team whose assistant coach gets promoted to Head Coach. Either both teams should get picks or just the team that promotes the assistant

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Agreed. How about a 5th comp pick for the team that gave them a chance and a 3rd for the team that hired them to one of the highest positions – HC or GM?

      The issue in the NFL is not assistant coaches, it’s HC and front office. It seems ass backwards.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Isn’t the team hiring the “black” coach taking all the risk? Lmao at the cartwheels….

  88. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, the OC saying this is my offense can’t override the HC McDaniel who is going to run what he believes in. It’s a collaborate effort. We’re going to run a form of the ‘Shanahan’ outside zone run game and play-action pass game. McDaniel seems to be a guy who can adjust with his talent and that will start with Tua. I love that he reached out to Tua the way he did. The offense he’s been involved in most of his coaching career fits Tua perfectly.

  89. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I think there’s an opportunity where McDaniel will let everyone knows what he wants….until then, fuck off. Lmao!

  90. randydolfan1947's avatar randydolfan1947 says:

    THIS JUST IN: American Chloe Kim wins Gold in the women’s half-pipe.
    AND – – –
    A Russian female athlete flunked a drug test.
    SOME things in life never seem to change.
    Y’all have a super tomorrow!

    • randydolfan1947's avatar randydolfan1947 says:

      FORGOT to mention. Local newspaper reported this morning that TV ratings for this Olympics are down over 50% from prior Winter Games (27 million viewers prior winter games down to 12 million this time.) 13 hour time difference is a likely culprit.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        You must be one of the 50% that doesn’t watch, based on your 13 hour time difference comment

        I’ve watched both Olympics my entire life, haven’t watched a single minute of this one

        I can tell you the time difference has nothing to do with it for most people

        Politics plays a part, also the sham of the Olympics in general, greedy bastards

  91. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The Shanahan offense is the spawn of Sid Gillman, Paul Brown and Bill Walsh. They are the Godfathers of the West Coast Offense. It’s changed quite a bit over the years due to rule changes and the athletic ability of players.

    The premise is to stretch defenses out horizontally and take advantage of gaps in both the run and pass game. It’s my favorite offense.

    That said, it’s still about talent. If you can’t block it then it doesn’t work.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      The best way to defend that is to shoot the gaps and disrupt the horizontal flow, as in, cut it off at the hash mark or wherever you can … i.e. dictate where the lane is instead of realizing it too late.
      You need speed in the DL and LBs to do that, which we have.
      SF lost because Jimmy G is not accurate enough or mobile enough or possessed of a quick enough release to make gap shooters pay. Tua has all 3 of those traits.

  92. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Tim @ 8.13 post …
    not sure why you directed the post above to me, as I have been saying exactly that the whole time.

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