1 Week Later – Coaching Staff Set!

For those of you (like myself) concerned about how long it would take, and how well young Head Coach Mike McDaniel would fill out his staff, the answer is one week, and I believe he did remarkably well. I have to say that I have more confidence in Mike McDaniel than any other hire of a Head Coach we’ve made solely based on the quality level of staff he assembled. Good people were eager to come here to work with McDaniel, and that says a lot. Let’s look at the staff . . .

OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR – Frank Smith

QB’s Coach/Pass Game Coordinator – Darrell Bevell

Running Backs/Associate Head Coach – Eric Studesville

Wide Receivers Coach – Wes Welker

Offensive Line Coach – Matt Applebaum

Tight Ends Coach/ Assistant Head Coach – Jon Embree

Assistant QB’s Coach – Chandler Henry

DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR – Josh Boyer

Defensive Line Coach – Austin Clark

Linebackers Coach – Anthony Campanile

Outside Linebackers Coach – Tyrone McKenzie

Defensive Backs Coach – Sam Madison

Cornerbacks Coach – Charles Burks

SPECIAL TEAMS COORDINATOR – Danny Crossman

As you can see, the entire staff is filled out, and there’s plenty of experience there beefing up the offensive side of the ball. Frank Smith, our new OC was previously the run game coordinator and Assistant O-Line Coach for the Chargers. Darrell Bevel has plenty of experience as an Offensive Coordinator for the Vikings, Seahawks and Jaguars as well as short stints as Head Coach for both the ‘Hawks and Jags. Once again, I stress experience. Jon Embree TE’s Coach is partly responsible for molding TE George Kittle into one of the best, and likely most well rounded Tight End in the NFL. Travis Kelce may be a better receiver, but it’s close there because of Kittle’s run after catch ability. Kittle is an able and willing blocker at the LOS, as well as downfield. Eric Studesville, half of our Co-Co tandem returns as Running Backs Coach. WR Wes Welker returns to Miami to be our Wide Receivers Coach. Great to have a guy who relied on technique and smarts his entire career to be coaching our guys. Matt Applebaum, former Boston College and Towson Unviersity Offensive Line Coach. He may have the toughest job of all, but other guys on our staff have experience working with the O-line so I believe that will help Applebaum.

On the defensive side of the ball, Josh Boyer returns as DC, despite all the controversy between he and former Coach Brian Flores. Also returning is Defensive Line Coach Austin Clark. Newcomers are Anthony Campanile as Linebackers Coach and Tyrone McKenzie as OLB Coach. Miami welcomes back our own Sam Madison, former All Pro Cornerback as our Defensive Backs Coach. Love the 2 nods to former Dolphins players! Charles Burks rounds out the defense as the Cornerbacks Coach. Danny Crossman returns to the team as Special Teams Coordinator.

McDaniel wasted no time building his staff, and once again, he did it with lots of quality people, people rich in experience at high level positions, former HC’s and former coordinators, people who have experience at multiple positions. There seemed to be no shortage of people willing to work for/with McDaniel which speaks volumes of how he is perceived in NFL circles. Not to beat a dead horse, but the fact Flores was unable to do the same, and couldn’t even keep the ones he personally brought here speaks volumes to how he is perceived in NFL circles as well.

I think the Dolphins were very careful from the get go to portray this hire of Mike McDaniel as a positive move, not just finding a guy to replace the guy they unceremoniously booted out. Call me a sucker, but I loved the phone call to Tua. I believe that McDaniel is wanting to come in here and wring out the best Tua can be, although many don’t share my enthusiasm for Tua, I think he’s a LOT better than what he gets credit for. If he can stay healthy, I think he will prove just how good he is when he has a staff that is truly behind him. Of Course Chris Grier has his work cut out to fnd the players to help Tua succeed. There are obvious needs and they must be addressed.

Offensive Line to me is the biggest issue. That doesn’t mean we have to bring in 5 new players, to the contrary, I think 2 players, and a draftee would do it. You guys know I’d love to bring in former 49ers OG Laken Tomlinson. He’d be an anchor for our line, a plug and play guy who plays every game and knows his responsibilities. Guys like that make the guys next to him better, they just do. It’s why I think it’s way too premature to give up on the guys we have in house. Sorry to bore you avid readers but I still believe that Austin Jackson, and Liam Eichenberg are potential NFL tackles. I think Austin can retake his LT position and I believe Eichenberg might be our future RT, as early as 2022. I think we need another interior lineman, a Center who could also play OG. Ted Karras who was here in 2020, is one possible answer. Ethan Pocic, 2nd RD pock of the ‘Hawks has played both C and OG for the Seahawks. If we go whole hog so to speak, maybe we bring in former Washington Redskins stalwart Brandon Scherrf. I hate to spend top dollar my friends, but if there’s a place worthy of the investment, it’s on the O-line. I also feel like it would be foolish to give up on OG Solomon Kindley. We’ll see how how the new offensive regime feels. We’ll also find out in the draft which follows Free Agency as to what importance they feel of upgrading the RB position. We’ve longed for better RB’s, but all signs seem to point to a RB by committee approach. We’ll have to wait and see, but we won’t have to wait long as NFL Free Agency begins March 16th, less than a month away.

Welcome Back Stanger!!!

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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958 Responses to 1 Week Later – Coaching Staff Set!

  1. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Were the Steelers not the originators of the Rooney Rule anyway?

  2. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    It may be that Goodell got with Tomlin ( or the committee for more diversity) (or their lawyers came up with this idea or SOMETHING) to give Flores a way to save face and get out of this mess he has made.
    I would not be surprised if now that he is employed in the league that he gets put on that committee or some Blue Ribbon Panel, and he and Goodell appear all smiles at making progress on the problem and the suit just fritters away.

  3. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Glad this is over, for now at least. Everyone has a right to protest, no one has a right to take over public streets for weeks on end….. and that goes for those from the right and left.
    ————————————————

    OTTAWA, Ontario (AP) — Hundreds of police in riot gear swept through the streets of Canada’s besieged capital Saturday, arresting or driving out protesters, towing away their trucks and finally retaking control of the streets in front of the country’s Parliament buildings….

    By early Saturday afternoon, protesters were gone from the street in front of Parliament Hill, the collection of government offices that includes the Parliament buildings, which had the heart of the protests…..

    Tow truck operators wearing neon-green ski masks, with their companies’ decals taped over on their trucks to conceal their identities, arrived under police escort and started removing hundreds of big rigs, campers and other vehicles parked shoulder to shoulder near Parliament

  4. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Our OL has to adapt to those zone blocking techniques or the run game that McDaniel employs will not work. It’s not like it’s going to be great overnight, but we weren’t good on offense to begin with so it had to change anyway.

  5. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I wonder how long before Minkah asks for a trade?

  6. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Steve, good call on Breese Hall. He also comes from a zone system. Though, Grier is not one to take a RB early and Hall will be gone by second round. Also, if McDaniel does it the Shanahan way, he won’t be looking at a RB until 4th or later. That said, I would not be disappointed if they took him at #50 though I would much rather they go WR and LB with first 2 picks unless RT Charles Cross is there at #29 then it becomes a tough call.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      The thing with RBs in the system McDaniel will be running is that they need to be one cut and go type runners, not indecisive dance around types. I wouldn’t say that we wouldn’t draft a RB somewhat early, but I won’t be surprised if we don’t. The run game is heavily based on the blocking up front. If you do that, a lot of NFL caliber RBs can be successful in this system. I could see us keeping 4 RB and a FB this year. Next man up has always been the way in the Shanahan’s run game.

      The first order of business for this team on offense is OL and blocking by everyone who doesn’t have the ball, except the QB.

  7. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    BBMike, I could see us signing a FA RB (not big money), possibly re-signing one of our FA RBs (Duke), Gaskin is still on the books, and drafting one. Then signing 2-3 as UDFAs.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Doaks will also be given an opportunity but I’m not sure what to think of him at this time.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Yes, I agree. The thought of drafting CJ Verdell (I posted above) is starting to grow on me. I did not realize he was 211 pounds at 5’8. He has some power and comes from an outside zone system. He does not dance but just hits the hole with a good burst. He will be there in the 6th/7th as he is not high on a lot of site draft boards.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Height isn’t a problem at RB, actually the shorter the better in my book. 211 pounds at 5’8 is an advantage being low to the ground. But the vision, quicks and power has to be there.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      What the hell is a FARB😉

      Gaskin +

      I can see either Lindsay or Breida in FA +

      Not sure Duke fits 100%, but I’d still re-sign +

      Fast rookie drafted 3rd day

  8. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’m pretty sure right now the scouting dept. and RBs coach Studesville are all looking for fits at RB in this scheme.

  9. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Steve, when you asked “What the hell is a FARB”, the answer as opposed to a FART is the difference between a toot and a blast. LOL

  10. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’M (as in ME!) still looking to sign Rashaad Penny as a FA… but only IF the price is right. Imagine him behind a legit O-Line, like the one we’re going to be installing.

    However, the type of O-Line we’re planning to install should prevent us from having to spend on a RB via FA. Thus, I highly doubt we sign Penny… sadly to me. We’ll see.

  11. randydolfan1947's avatar randydolfan1947 says:

    YOUNG STANGER: YOU ask, to paraphrase, if you hire a guy to fix something on your car and he goofs it up is it your fault?
    ———————–
    My answer is “YES, if you hire guys over a 10+year period to fix your car AND THEY ALL MESS IT UP then there is something wrong in the methods you use to hire all these dead heads!!” If Ross ONLY hired one or two goof-ups, I’d be delighted. Fact is he’s hired way too many bad people to earn the benefit of the doubt!!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Isn’t that the same for every owner in sports? You make it seem like the Dolphins have been the worst team in sports because of Ross. Most teams have not won anything. I get it you don’t like him, but you allow that to skew your football vision where personnel people, coaches and players are trying to compete to win. They’re not all idiots or goofs or whatever. But I guess as long as Ross is owner anything that doesn’t go well will be on him in your mind.

      It’s still football, OD. What about Joe Robbie and Wayne Huizenga with Don Shula never winning a championship with one of the best QBs of all time in Dan Marino over 17 years?
      Shula was HC for 13 of those years. What’s his excuse?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Loyalty can be damning, IMO. Tom Olividotti was the main culprit as to why Dan never made it back to the Super Bowl.

      • randydolfan1947's avatar randydolfan1947 says:

        TIM:SHULA,ROBBIE and WAYNE HUIZENGA all had their successes, especially the first two. SHULA had the one and only perfect season. HE DOESN’T NEED AN EXCUSE!!! SHULA won more games than any coach in NFL HISTORY!!!
        ——————-
        Meanwhile some on this board are content with Ross. I AM NOT!! His history of significant hires (HC,GM, Director of player personnel,etc. is, by far, the WORST IN DOLPHINS HISTORY!!!
        ——————-
        History will NOT be kind to Steve Ross’s ownership years. But, hey, if you and some others are happy with him, well, it’s a free country!!
        ENJOY, ENJOY!!

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        Well I do not excuse Shula and the front office for never winning a SB with Marino. We have not won one in almost 50 years and have not been to one in almost 40. Ross has not been the owner over that entire time.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Who hired him as DC? Go look at the drafts. We were horrible drafting defense. Who was that on?

        I always said it was not the running game with Marino. We could still score points without that. We did a HORRIBLE job building a defense. We held onto the aging Killer B’s who were getting slower and slower. They were totally exposed in the 84/85 SB against the 49ers and did nothing about it until the 90’s. Then we couldn’t stop the Bills.

        Fact or Fiction? Those of us that didn’t experience the Dolphins in their heyday like OD did, saw a different Don Shula than he did. We knew his legacy. We were always in the mix but always fell short. With friggin Dan Marino!!! Sorry it is what it was.

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        Exactly, especially like the last paragraph

  12. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Bookman, Shula and Marino never winning at least one SB is one of the most mind boggling happenings in sports history.

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      I agree. It still hurts, can you tell I am a little bitter? Shula was in charge, and I know it is not popular, but he was ultimately responsible for this travesty.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Friends of mine in my age group who are Dolphins fans that did everything we could to watch the games are not shy about admitting the failure of the Marino era. We should have been the team to face the Bears in the SB in the 85/86 SB. But our roster outside of the offense was not very good and we turned it over 6 times in the AFC Championship game against the Pats. That was the beginning of ruining Marino’s presence, we just didn’t know it yet. Sorry Don Shula was the top dog at the time just like Bill Belichick is now. Everything went through Shula.

      • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

        I used to be crushed when they lost during that era. Winning a SB with Marino was like trying to find the holy grail. Shula was so well respected and beyond reproach, but looking back now, I mostly blame him.

  13. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    In addition to that, although not on the scale of horror as not winning a SB with Marino, was that they had absolutely nothing to follow him with. They were wasting Marino while he aged, and then had a big fat zero for Plan B.

  14. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    However, Brees and Rodgers only won one. Jim Kelly went 0 for 4. Russell Wilson also only 1. Joe Namath 1.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Sports is a wild thing. Ross is the only owner to face such failure though. If only it was someone else. I don’t know. 😉

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        He’s been a fan ever since he lived on Miami Beach as a kid.
        He graduated from Miami Beach High, where he played football.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I thought he was just a NYC Jew destroying the Dolphins. Sorry, I read between the lines.

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 19, 2022 at 9:38 pm
    I thought he was just a NYC Jew destroying the Dolphins. Sorry, I read between the lines.
    ———-
    Dude, c’mon. I don’t believe anti-Semitism has anything to do with Ross’ poor tenure as our owner. That’s just irresponsible and asking for trouble.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Perhaps I read ya wrong, but I’m just sayin’.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It gets brought up all the time without quite saying it. He spends too much time in NYC and is not hands on. Ross hired people to run the football team. He’s not a personnel guy, coach or player. He’s an 80 year old owner. Has he fucked up at times? Yes! But geez to keep skipping past football and onto personal attacks about the guy is curious to say the least. The last championship/SB the Dolphins won was in the 73/74 season. Ross officially took over the team as majority owner in 2009. What went on in between?

      The last championship was almost 50 fucking years ago. Ross has been the primary owner for 12 years. I get it, he’s kind of a goofball and is getting worse at speaking. But he rebuilt the stadium and gave the team a new top class training facility. He invests in the team. That’s what you want in an owner. He’s not the voice of the football team.

      A young coach like Mike McDaniel who is a pretty smart guy would have walked if he saw a poorly run organization. I get it, a HC job is huge and there were only 9 of them this year out of 32. It’s a life changing moment for him and his family. But if it was bad, he would have have said no thanks. Then all of a sudden veteran coaches joined him. Think about that.

      Oh my, the horror!!! LOL

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Good stuff, man. The thing that McDaniel brought to the table in the run game was his vision of movement and “eye” deception. Guys in motion, selling a direction and cutback runs. 🙂

      Like he said, you can’t run an offense without knowing what the defense might be doing.

      McDaniel is the best thing that could have happened for Tua. If he doesn’t thrive in this system than maybe you’re not good enough, bro! This offense we’re seeing here is perfect for Tua. It’s not all about size and athleticism, but instincts and intelligence.

  16. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    In 2022 Tua will be 2 years removed from his hip injury and the rehab that he dealt with entering the NFL as a rookie. The broken ribs and finger injury in 2021 is a part of the game. Nobody knows when that kind of thing will happen.

    The 2022 season is huge for Tua. The same for the rest of the team, but we all know it comes down to the QB. The Dolphins finished the season 8-1 with Tua at QB. How do you do that with a bad QB?

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      Not saying you are wrong, but you can do it with a bad QB when you are playing Carolina, Houston, Jets x2, Saints with Ian Book, and the Giants. That’s 6 of the 9 games against terrible teams and a 3rd string QB. That might have been the easiest second half of a season in the NFL.

      You are right though. McDaniel is an offensive wiz. If Tua can’t flourish with possibly a top 5 rushing attack? He’s not going to work, and we need to look elsewhere.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      and the game they lost was on the road to the top ranked team in the AFC, the one with the bye and 12 wins.

  17. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    When I look at these clips of the 49rs offense, a lot of obvious things stick out that are great.
    But i also noticed, and I’m sure you do too, that there are a couple of weird but wonderful things there.
    And one bad one.
    The bad thing is how or why did they not win more games during the regular season? or restated … What was Garopolo doing on the passing downs?

  18. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    One of the two good sneaky things is that, at the mesh point, sometimes 9 or at least 8 49rs were bunched between the tackles hitting somebody. However, at least 2 and up to 4 of them just chipped a guy and then sprinted out so they ended up in the flat, blocking a second guy each, thus making the running lane occur twice, once at the LOS and again about 5-8 yrds downfield.
    This usually meant there was one DB and no LBs out there who needed to take the perfect angle for a TD saving tackle, usually after 12 yards of gain.
    This just frightens a defense and adds to the hesitancy and over thinking that tacklers hate. Defensive guys love that see ball, hit ball kind of opportunity. But they rarely get it against a McDaniel run play. Even the camera is fooled half the time in these clips.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Couldn’t liking what I saw in that vid, but was left with you need a well-drilled O, and especially OL, to make it happen. Back to growing pains on the switch.

  19. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    The second sneaky thing is that the 9rs don’t even block a certain DL or MLB on half these plays. They just make him worthless, standing in what he thought was the hole or leaning one way while the RB (or deebo) sprints past him going the other way.
    Many times certain DL guys are deceived into thinking they have penetration for a TFL, but when they get back there, no one is there. Again, this causes hesitancy and confusion in the DL, which is a RB’s best friend.
    It’s like a screen pass blocking scheme, but on a run play, so it’s unexpected. DL guys can often sniff out a screen pass (ours anyway) but these “screen” running plays work (at least for a while).

  20. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    It seems many times our poor RBs are running smack into a wall of defenders, but it seems the SF RBs rarely find no hole. I’d like to see the “no gain” running play percentage for SF vs. the league.

  21. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    New Age
    I know what you mean, but we might’ve had the hardest first half of a season as well.
    NE (a sweep, but it is NE) Buffx2, Indy before their fade, Tampa Bay with the GOAT, LV on the road (OT), London where Flores blew it, Atlanta with Matt Ryan against 2 raw safeties, and no starting QB for 4 games, so the back-up lost all 4 games. We lost 3 of the 7 by FGs in the final minutes.

  22. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Everybody is saying Tua must improve.
    At what exactly must he improve?
    in 12 of our games last year, our TOP rusher ran for less than 50 yards.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Playing Buffalo and other top teams, and reading the D

      Against Atlanta he had 2 horrible ints, one under pressure and one with Waddle wide open right in front of the triple coverage he threw into

  23. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    From rob hellebrand (@dolfanrbo1):

    How did Tua’s arm strength last year compare to his strength in college? I was wondering if some of those dying throws might be due to his hip injury.

    Hey Rob, yeah, I think the idea of the hip injury still being a factor last year is not realistic. Truth is, I saw Tua’s arm strength last year as being exactly what it was at Alabama. The difference is that Tua practically always had the time and space to set his feet before throwing deep passes at Alabama because the talent around him was so good. That’s just not life in the NFL, where the talent on defense is on par with the talent on offense and quarterbacks invariably will have to make throws on the move or off balance, which will expose somebody’s arm strength or lack thereof. Tua can make deeper throws in the NFL on those plays when he has good protection and can set his feet, but the arm strength becomes lacking on other throws.

    Alain Poupart

  24. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Don’t be so quick to hate our current helmet, liked all the other teams I saw

    https://standardnews.com/nfl-helmet-concepts/5/

  25. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Omar Kelly@OmarKelly

    Gesicki is going to Tennessee. Remember I said it.

    5:57 AM · Feb 19, 2022

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I hope he’s wrong, but if he doesn’t re-sign here, I don’t really care where he goes. He’s going to have a really nice career wherever he goes. He’ll be used more often than we ever used him, even this past season.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        I thought before we would at least tag him, but not as sure after learning about the new scheme. First it seems to include a fullback much of the time. Second it is run heavy. Both increase the need for a TE who can block and probably decreases the number of 2 TE sets.

        But maybe we keep him and use him instead of a 3rd WR. He can at least block a whole lot better than a slot WR when he stays in and is just as valuable, even if in a different way, when he splits out.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      My theory on Omar is take what he says and believe the opposite

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      My take on Gesicki is we will have one of him who is a much better blocker in Hollins if we resign Hollins and would cost half the money or even less. I remember a few times seeing Hollins in line blocking. Can’t remember if he was in as a TE or just lined up as an H-Back.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Omar read the same Tennessee newspaper article I did. The local beat writers there are saying the Titans need a WR and Gesicki is the best available. Now Omar presents it like it is an original thought.

  26. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Been looking at the FA OL list again trying to figure out what OT’s would be a fit. Trenton Brown from NE is out as he is not a fit. Gonna have to look at that list of teams who run the zone concept and see what FA OL they have out there. Anyone got a link to what blocking schemes NFL teams currently run?

    I think LG Tomlinson is a must to sign. I think SF also has a backup OT who is a FA.

  27. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    BBM — couldn’t find a simple list of zone teams but this is pretty comprehensive, even if a year old has a breakdown for each team.
    .
    https://fantasydata.com/all-32-nfl-coaching-schemes-for-the-2021-season

    Found this particularly interesting.
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    Mike Shanahan

    The offense used by Mike Shanahan in Denver and later Washington has evolved and become all the rage in the NFL today. The Shanahan offense is derived from the West Coast offense made famous by Bill Walsh. However, the Walsh offense wanted to use quick, short passes as a partial substitute for a traditional running game. The Shanahan offense created a wide zone-blocking scheme that allows running to be a partial substitute for the passing game. Both concepts are similar, they both want to force the defense into defending sideline to sideline, however, the Walsh offense gets the ball to someone in space then they run. Shanahan’s offense hands the ball off and creates the space as the ball carrier advances toward the sideline until they find the openning. Kyle Shanahan has perfected this type of running game in San Francisco. Personnel is often a 2 back set with either 2 TEs and 1 WR, or 2 WRs and 1 TE. In this offense, all 5 of the eligible receivers are “alive” on the play, though the play design may be more about getting one of those guys into a wide-open space to receive the ball. Other variants, like Sean McVay’s offense like to use a 3rd WR instead of having a fullback on the field. Bunch formations are popular in this system as is play-action passing. The system can succeed with a middling QB as long as they can execute the system properly. Currently, this system is used (or will be used) by Kyle Shanahan (SF), Sean McVay (LAR), Matt LaFleur (GB), Kevin Stefanski (CLE), Arthur Smith (ATL), Shane Waldron (SEA), Klint Kubiak (MIN) (Klint is another child of a founder of this offense), Todd Downing (TEN), Mike LaFleur (NYJ), and possibly Matt Canada (PIT) if he survives past Big Ben’s tenure in Pittsburgh.

  28. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I went back and watched a good bit of our running plays. I noticed Durham Smythe used a ton in like a H-Back position and would motion from side to side a lot. Sometimes motion to one side then pull back to the other side after the ball is snapped. I could not find where I saw Hollins in that position a few times. Saw Gesicki maybe twice lined up there where he whiffed on one block and made the other. Did see Hollins make a few nice blocks when at the WR position and believe it or not WR Wilson also making a few nice blocks. Gesicki is not a very good blocker down field either. Almost like he doesn’t try. He just tries to get in the way and doesn’t try to put pads on anyone.

    Most of the time, it was Smythe and Shaheen in the H-Back spot but, overall, probably 95% of the time it was Smythe. I came away impressed with Smythe’s blocking on a good number of plays.

    We have to resign Smythe!

  29. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Not sure who is a starter or backup. Just pulling this from Spotrac listed highest paid to least.

    Going by that article from teams using a similar system are:

    UFA centers
    Josh Andrews, Atlanta 30
    Ben Jones, Tennessee 32
    Kyle Fuller, Seattle 28
    Mason Cole, Minnesota 26

    UFA LT:
    Duane Brown, Seattle 36

    UFA RT:
    Morgan Moses, NYJ 31
    Dennis Kelly, GB 32

    UFA OG
    Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, NYJ 31
    Alex Lewis, NYJ 30
    Laken Tomlinson, SF 30
    Dan Feeney, NYJ 27
    Ethan Pocic, Seattle 26
    Rashod Hill, Minnesota 30
    Lucas Patrick, GB 28
    Tom Compton, SF 32
    David Quessenberry, Tennessee 31
    Avery Gennesy, Tennessee 28

    I know there are more who have played in this system prior to last year but that would be too time consuming to figure out.

  30. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Juwan Howard almost starts all it brawl at Michigan/Wisconsin game. What a dick

  31. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    If this season taught us anything, there are no easy teams on anyone’s schedule. It’s not easy to win games in the NFL. There is no perfect system either. Sometimes a team just has another teams number on an given Sunday.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      True, and a key injury to a superstar can absolutely deride an entire team’s success.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        That can happen, but other than QB, if one player getting hurt derails a team’s season, you weren’t that good. Example, if the Rams lost Aaron Donald and their defense fell apart that doesn’t say much for the rest of the players on defense. Obviously talent matters and great players matter. A great player should help put you over the top, not pull your entire team out of a hole.

  32. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, I know you like Geiscki and I do too. But do you think he is a complete TE, or a guy who has a unique athletic skill set in some phases as a receiver?

    I would love for us to re-sign him but I don’t think he should be paid like other top TEs who have more well rounded games. The thing I’ve noticed about him the past couple of seasons is he does not get open quickly and he doesn’t have a lot of short area movement to break tackles and pick up YAC. He’s more of a stretch guy who can high point the ball in the open field. Kind of like a big center in basketball. He can do certain things because of his size and length, but he’s not the most nimble guy.

  33. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    OD….I am one of the few on this board that have witnessed what you did. And, his kids played with my brother in HS football. You will never see me think less of him and Joe Robbie back in the day.

    However, during the Marino years he lost his direction, imo. There is no reason the Dolphins should have not been there multiple times. Our defense was gross and that was squarely on Shula’s shoulders, and if I use your logic, management Huzienga, too.

    It’s been a long road to the bottom and failure, and it started sad to say, with Shula’s failures with Marino. Just my opinion.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      There is no other way around it. There was a point when Shula was looking for defensive help from has been players and guys from the CFL. Why was he drafting guys like WR Scott Schwedes in the 2nd round when we needed a NT like Jerry Ball who was picked a few slots later in the 3rd round.

      The opposing team’s game plan was run, run and then run again against us and keep Marino off the field. This went on for years.

  34. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    And Olivadatti’s D could be schooled by a kindergarten….it was disgusting and Shula let it slide for years….

    It was WTF moment from the Shula I grew up with. Sorry, but it was.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Chuck Studley was no better. He went from DC to LBs coach during the era of 84-88. Olivadotti was 87-95. The defense got better in the 90’s but still not great. In 95 our defense was a patchwork of has beens and overrated players. That’s why Jimmy Johnson blew it up from the get go in 96.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Shula was 257-133 as the Phins coach. So not like a lot of bad seasons. But he did go his last 21 years without winning a Superbowl.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Shula was an excellent coach and his teams were always relevant for the most part, but they fell short more than they won big like you said for 2 decades. 13 of them with Marino.

        I don’t blame the DCs, I blame him. His defenses were some of the worst in the league during the Marino era. Very similar to the Chargers during the Dan Fouts era. They could score a ton of points but they couldn’t stop teams from doing the same.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        That’s the point stangerx no trips to the SB with arguably the best QB that played until Brady….why?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Marino was in the 1984 Bowl

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        And never again…sorry for the hyperbole.

  35. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    More than a moment…years.

  36. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Yeah, it was gross….for some reason I blame it all on Olivadatti and forgot about Studley…lol. It was forgettable.

    Shula was ultimately responsible and I couldn’t get what happened.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      He stayed too long with the aging Killer B’s defense. They were a light but fast defense in their heyday, but once they slowed down they got pushed around and beat over the top time and time again.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        I couldn’t get pass the constant failures on D and why nothing was being done. It was so not the Shula I grew up with.

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Isn’t it strange that Marino was #13 and Shula was his coach for 13 years and they never won a SB. Why is their no floor #13 in many buildings. 😉

  38. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – He’s not a complete, well rounded TE, but I have no idea if he can be. I don’t know if he’s just not a willing blocker or if he just hasn’t been asked to block much. I don’t know how complete a TE Darren Waller is, but I know I want that guy catching passes on my team. If we’re intending to use a FB and the TE to block in the run game, at this point I’d say Gesicki would be the worst out of the guys we’ve had to be in that role. I do think he could be a top 5 receiving TE though, especially if Tua had more time to throw. His inability to get separation does concern me and he’s not especially good at RAC, he can be physical at times but he doesn’t have the burst or the moves Kelce or Kittle have after they make the catch.

  39. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I realize I’m biased being Gesicki is a former volleyball player and football player from PSU, but let’s face it: he’s a chain-mover, a game-changer, and a definite redzone threat with his catch radius, leaping ability, and sure hands.

    Complete TE or not, he’s a guy we should retain, IMO.

  40. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, if you’re GM what price tag do you put on Gesicki? I wouldn’t pay him $12-15M per year? I don’t think he does enough. He’s a weapon no doubt, but he’s limited. Remember… he’s not always open. But when he is, it’s usually for chunk yardage.

    For me re-signing Ogbah is a must and targeting vet OL in FA is more important than Gesicki.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      We have a boatload of $$$ to spend, but we must be wise with that $$$. Honestly, I’d put a price tag on Gesicki at around $12M. Franchise tag him as a TE, if we must.

      IF he gets availed WR status on a franchise tag, we’ve no choice but to let him walk into FA. That would suck.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Fair enough, you value him more than I do. In the system McDaniel is going to run with a heavy emphasis in the run game, I can’t justify paying Gesicki big money. I think the TEs need to be more well rounded even if they’re only average receivers who can help move the chains and score a few TDs. I think money needs to spent on other positions.

  41. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The combine, pro days and FA is not too far off. 🙂

  42. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I would just love to see TEs be part of our offense. I love that position and think it’s part of most successful offenses….lol

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Lol…I guess my point is he’s the best we’ve had in a while. Homer reason to keep him.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      We did use the TE position quite a bit. Not sure why so many people think it wasn’t. At times it was the staple of our passing game. Not just Gesicki.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        None of them have Gesicki’s rare physical abilities that are mismatch nightmares. Teams spend time on shutting him down…don’t you want that?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I hear ya but I don’t think he is a franchise type player. He’s very good at what he does. But we’re talking 5-7 catches per game at best. He doesn’t really change games. He’s just a part of a good day. I didn’t want to pay Landry either. There is a difference between good and special.

  43. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    I will say this Shula sucked from 85 on

  44. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Shula ruined Marino’s career

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      Or should I say legacy

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      So the next time someone wants to blame an owner like Ross, think about how poorly a legendary coach also failed with one of the best QBs of all time.

      I’m rooting for McDaniel and Tua who are both not prototypes to defy logic. LOL

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Shula lost with Johnny Unitas too.

        “In their seven years together, quarterback Johnny Unitas and coach Don Shula, kings of the fabled Baltimore Colts of the 1960s, created one of the most successful franchises in sports. Unitas and Shula had a higher winning percentage than Lombardi’s Packers, but together they never won the championship. Baltimore lost the big game to the Browns in 1964 and to Joe Namath and the Jets in Super Bowl III—both in stunning upsets. The Colts’ near misses in the Shula era were among the most confounding losses any sports franchise ever suffered. Rarely had a team in any league performed so well, over such an extended period, only to come up empty.”

  45. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Wyoming, I think I might like my new #2 car driver. 😉

  46. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Starting from 1987-1991, the Bills owned us. 1-9 against them.

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      What about all the other years we couldn’t get it done?

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        We came up small in a few playoff games, let the Patriots run all over us with our Killer B defense. The Bills of the late 80’s and early 90’s was a much better balanced team than we were. Simple as that.

  47. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Here are some things to think about with Gesicki. Despite being in an offense that wasn’t suited for his stregths, he still managed to finish with these numbers for Tight ends:

    5th in receptions overall (3rd overall among UFAs)
    8th in yards (3rd overall among UFAs)

    He was middle of the pack with touchdowns with 2, but that was less his fault and more with a combo of things. Rewatch the tape and see how many times this season he was wide open and not targeted in the redzone. He gets 3-4 more TD’s from those and we aren’t having this discussion.

    We’ll have to see how the market goes, but I’d be hard pressed to believe he’s commanding 15 million a year. I still think he’s worth it at 12, but would like to get him at 9-10. Don’t forget we have someone on our staff who was instrumental in the growth of Darren Waller. Just because the 49ers ran their offense a certain way, doesn’t mean they’ll do the same thing here. McDaniel has shown that he’s capable of looking at what people do best and then tailor the offense to fit the strength of those guys. The WCO is extemely adaptable.
    I myself would love a more well rounded and dual target guy like Kelce, Schultz, or Kittle, but I would hate to see talent let go from this team when it doesn’t have to. If we let the guy go and don’t properly replace him, it will be poor business as usual.

  48. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Tim,
    Landry and Gesicki aren’t comparable situations. Landry was wanting 3X what he was worth in the open market and we haven’t even seen Gesicki talk about contracts unless he’s cheering for his teammates to get paid.

  49. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Mark Martin’s #6 definitely downgraded!
    ————
    I agree

  50. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Brian Miller https://phinphanatic.com/2022/02/21/3-keys-successful-miami-dolphins-2022-mike-mcdaniel/

    I mostly agree with this and funny how Tua doesn’t really play into it

    Keeping the D from taking a step back, something he doesn’t mention is they can still take a step back and succeed, if the running game improves

    My theory on why the D was bad during the 7 game losing streak was a combo of things one being the O didn’t give them any help

    Given the OL needs to improve and Grier needs to hit this year’s FA

    You could say we’re going to be a running team, so keeping Gesicki isn’t important, but think if we don’t replace him with another option, that commands attention it will be a huge mistake

    Also no matter what we do running the ball we still need a good passing game and that starts with adequate receivers

    Smythe could be play a huge in this offense, if targeted enough, see him as a Witten type of pass catching TE, but he won’t command double teams

  51. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Another key for us will be how the passing game goes on early downs

    Suppose we’re able to run the ball, 1st down play action needs to be good and not just for 5 yards, chunk plays Gesicki comes to mind and Parker

    Think Mickey D will thrive keeping the D guessing and will be needed against Buffalo

  52. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I think Gesicki’s game helped create space for Waddle underneath.

  53. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    PFF does make me wonder sometimes….Pro Football Focus rated Tua only 25th among all QBs — 10 spots behind Brissett,

  54. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Franchise tag period starts tmrw and ends on March 8th.

  55. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Steve, I agree a lot with your 10:28. This is Duke Johnson touches. Watch where #81 is lined up pre-snap and through the play. IMO, I think it is more important to resign Smythe before Gesicki. I also think, if we could get Gesicki for around 9mil per, we should keep him.

    This is every Duke play and Smythe really only missed one block out of all Dukes touches. On top of that, Smythe is also coming off his best year receiving. Seeing Shaheen #80 and Long #84 in the same position, they seemed slower to get to their block but still made it. Smythe seems much quicker in that regard.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      TE is known to be a very hard position to learn coming into the league. Our TEs set a team record. Why mess with that? Shaheen, Long, Smythe, and Gesicki complement each other and present real problems for the D. If we can get Gesicki for under 11, I’d do it.

  56. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Some Gesicki stats for last season from PFF. He’s about as WR as a TE comes.

    *** Run-blocking: Gesicki not only had more total snaps as a run-blocker in the slot (82) compared to inline (55), but also out wide (79) as a true wide receiver.

    *** Pass protection: Gesicki pass-blocked on just 11 total snaps the entire season, including just once while lined up as a traditional inline tight end.

    *** Route-running: Gesicki was one of just eight tight ends who ran at least 75% of their routes from the slot or out wide in 2021, and his 92% rate far surpassed second-place Anthony Firkser (87%) and third-place Kyle Pitts (80%).

    *** Coverage: Gesicki ran 539 routes last season. A linebacker was the primary coverage defender for 128 of these snaps (24%), a safety for 80 snaps (15%) and a cornerback on 239 occasions (44%).

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      and DID NOT require double coverage on a regular basis despite misinformation on here.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        You could say that about every receiver, but Gesicki opens things up for others and the main point of the argument about his value to the O

  57. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Gesicki won’t be missed. Game changer? Yes, his inability to block like a real TE changes the game. For the worse.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      He’s real good at what he does well and not real good at that which he does not. His value is as a mid-deep slot receiver.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I ask myself which will be cheaper Hollins or Gesicki? Gesicki is just a big, long striding WR. Hollins is more athletic in route running ability. Hollins is a better blocker. Hollins is a special teams ace. Gesicki makes great catches and is a better leaper. Gesicki is 2′ taller and 26 pounds heavier but does not use it except for his height and catch radius.

      I still would like to have both back. At this point, I want Hollins and Smythe back before Gesicki as they give more value to the team.

  58. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    it will be interesting to see if we start slow, giving it’s a new HC who’s also calling plays and it’s the 3rd new system for Tua.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      It will come down to the OL, IMO.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I am sure Tua knows this is it for him and he will rise to the occasion.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        We heard that every year for Tannehill, just don’t think it works that way

        You build on what you have, then get to a certain spot and make a decision at that point what you need to take the next step

        Look at SF, they got to the SB with Garo Polo, but on the coat tails of the running game, when it came time for him to have to make a play he didn’t and they’re moving on, but if they had lost to GB in the NFC Championship game would they still feel the same way?

  59. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – PFF had Tua ranked worse than Brissett?

  60. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    We started slow every season Flores was HC

  61. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Seems the SF O uses fast 1 cut RBs, with that in mind didn’t think Duke was a good fit, but he’s a 1 cut quick RB and similar to some of the backs used in Denver under Mike Shanahan, so a re-sign for sure

  62. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    ““I think race played a role in my firing. What I mean by that is there were things that I was asked to do, there were conversations that were had, I was made out to be a difficult person to work with, and I think my white counterparts wouldn’t have been asked to do the things that I was asked to do. Look, I’m a strong personality. I know that played a role. You need to be that as a coach in the National Football League.”

    — Flores explaining his hunch on how racism was involve in the Dolphins letting him go.

  63. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I think most of you know that I favored Flores firing on merit the moment he was fired but I going to play a little devils advocate here, mainly bc I still think The Dolphins organization can’t help but fall on its face under Stephen Ross, not bc I think Flores was treated differently bc of his race

    The moment Flores was fired some people argued he should not have been

    And frankly he was right not on line, reasonable minds will differ about whether he deserved to be fired or not Based on merit

    But within a day all the sudden the stories about him being hard to work with came out. All of the sudden everyone was reporting in house rifts blah blah blah

    Everyone here heard it

    And maybe that’s true, maybe it’s not

    But please for the love of god, Steven Ross, put a clamp on that
    No one needs o know what you fired some one, you certainly don’t have to smear some one

    If tHeres an email or a call or something talking about Flores personality from Ross or anyone in the organization. It makes The Dolphins look bad

    You don’t have to make your fired employees look bad after you fire them
    You don’t have to smear them or talk about them at all

    Every employer knows there a chance of getting sued when they fire some one, rightly or wrongly, tHey do stuff to avoid that lawsuit, like not speaking at all or refusing to give a reference

    But what happened here is stories came out about Flores being hard to work with

    And the Dolphins did nothing too put a clamp on it
    Just like they do nothing to a clamp on the Watson rumors even though now they are saying Tua is their guy

    There are people in an nfl organization who’s job it is to control what comes out

    Wtf are the Dolphins doing to correct records, or stop people from writing stories like this
    Or are tHey the once’s that leaked stuff about Flores – tHat just seems dumb to do if that’s True

    You are going to get yourself sued if you try to smear the reputation of a employee you just fired 9 times out of 10. Ross really should know this

    I’m glad Flores is gone
    I can’t say the same about the Dolphins owner. I’m not glad he is still the owner

    He’s a fucking mess

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Ross is 81and worth $8.3 billion. Maybe he just doesn’t care about any lawsuit that will come his way and giving his side is worth the potential liability for him. Not like it will come out of the cap.

      I am sure league spank he would care about and Flores claims he was offered a bribe to lose. His lawyers say they can back that up, but didn’t offer any specifics in their pleading when they could have. And they are the plaintiff’s lawyer after all. Might be no more to it than his hunch about racism from the team that hired black him involved.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Ross is a mess nothing we can do about it except he sells the team

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Ross spent $500 million to give us shade, escalators and better food. Makes him less than a messed up owner to me.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think the fact that Flores was fired the day after the last game shows the decision was made about other things and probably weeks before. But the team was still in a playoff hunt and winning so they didn’t want to derail that for the players. He wasn’t fired because of his race, that’s just stupid. The main issue that came out is that he wanted more power meaning over Grier and that wasn’t going to happen. So there was a rift within the building. That’s not the end of the world or the first time that sort of thing has happened. Flores should have just moved on. Instead he started accusing people all over the league of racism. Ross held a PC after firing Flores and said he’s a good man etc. but they felt they needed to go in another direction. There is nothing wrong with that but Flores made it worse.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        I agree TK, I doubt Grier played the race card on Flores…lmao.

        Flores thought he landed the Giants job and became unglued when he realized he didn’t…

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        I doubt Grier asked Flores to do anything that would be considered racist….lol.

        And, Ross is just an ass.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yeah I view Ross as a bit of a doofus but he does spend money for the team.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Doofas…for sure. And Grier stands in his shadow instead of stepping up and controlling the situation.

        I wonder what the M means in Grier’s GM title?

  64. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

  65. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Maybe Lynn Bowden can be our version of Deebo Samuel. He is a RB/WR with good speed.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      4.46 40, could make Gaskin expendable as 3rd down back, could push Waddle outside, also throws so gadget player

      If anyone fits this O it’s him

  66. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Krishna, no GM can go above the owner. Grier’s main job is personnel not public relations. His job doesn’t have an off-season. He’s got to deal with personnel all the time – injuries, FAs, contracts, the draft and the in-season roster.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Did I say that? I expect my managers to mnage me as the owner. Then, I direct based on my managers’ advise.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Okay not sure what you’re getting at. What situation should Grier have stepped up and controlled?

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        No GM can go above the owner. But, you should talk, advise, plan, and try and control the narrative.

        If Ross has left football operations in control of his VP and GM, then I would think you have the tools to control your owner. That’s just sound management.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      I have never taken a dictator viewpoint as an owner…..

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      And, if Grier’s not going to handle public relations then it’s the VP of Operations. Is that Garfinkle (?). It’s a management problem, imo.

  67. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    stangerx says:
    February 21, 2022 at 5:50 pm (Edit)
    Ross spent $500 million to give us shade, escalators and better food. Makes him less than a messed up owner to me.
    ——————-
    Willing to invest in your team to maximize your profits has little to do with what makes Ross a crappy owner. It has much to do with the unprofessional way he was conducted the operation of the team from botched coaching hires, setting a power structure in the organization that was not conducive to running a football team and to a belief that just throwing large amounts of money to free agents was a good model of how to build a football team

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      He definitely has made those mistakes in the past but he did finally do it the right way by making Grier the GM with the proper power that most GMs have. Then hire your HC and go from there. I don’t see an issue with the power structure anymore. Garfinkel is the CEO of the Miami Dolphins brand and stadium. Grier is in control of the football team personnel. Then the HC is in control of the players we have and what happens on the field.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Just said spending a lot of money on the team ” Makes him less than a messed up owner to me..” Spending money is a good thing and have to weigh that against the other. He could not even carry over cap like a lot of teams do.

  68. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I felt lots of unspecified sources were cited in those smearing stories. I don’t remember any direct quote of Ross saying Flo was difficult. Anybody got one?
    Also we called him stone cold Brian Flores for a reason.

  69. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Krishna, what is the issue that you feel others should have done to control Ross?

  70. markeyh's avatar markeyh says:

    Hope all is well with all of you….

  71. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Not sure how many of you saw the January 10th PC with Stephen Ross and others about Flores being fired and the state of the team. I can’t post the link because it doesn’t do that. But go to the official site and scroll down to the right and you’ll see the links.

  72. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    TK, my issue is that Ross is a self-admitted dolt when it comes to running a football franchise, so he hires people to do that for him. Then, do those hires speak truth to power and help the owner be a better business owner or shuffle along with their titles and money and say yes sir all the time.

    I think it takes a team to run a great football organization not a bunch of “yes men.”

    Look at Jerry Jones and all his yes men and all his “success” since Jimmy left.

    I don’t think upper management is doing their job with Ross and they’re to blame too.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Okay fair enough. I agree allowing the Watson trade rumors to hover over the team and specifically Tua was handled poorly. But as far as firing the HC agree or disagree, that was simply a decision to move on. It’s really nothing more than that. We now have a new HC and coaching staff, FA and a draft before the season. We have good cap space and a solid draft. What’s so out of whack?

      I mean if Flores’ allegations are true and proven, Ross is going to be the culprit and we’ll see what the ramifications are. But I really don’t think it’s going to happen.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Way too early to say what will and will not be proven

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I hear ya, just a gut feeling. I don’t really care if Ross has to sell the team. I wouldn’t mind not having to read about him all the time. I’m tired of the drama too. But the football team is in good shape moving forward and that’s my main interest.

  73. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Good to Markey H in the house

  74. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    You guys really think Ross had a direct hand in firing Flores? Ross runs an $8+B enterprise.you don’t do that yourself. You have people.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      At 80 -ish years old of all things….

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Only Ross has the authority to fire Ross. He may have people but that decision can’t be made without him

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        Bullshit. I own and run a $25M a year company. You think I’m the only one who can fire people?

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        The higher up the food chain the fewer the decision makers. If the owner of the team is not involved in the firing of an HC is worse than we even thought

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think Ross was told what the rift was and most likely from Chris Grier and they decided to move on. The race card is ridiculous with a black GM. Flores is acting like he’s the first HC to ever get fired and it’s because of the color of his skin. Really?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Yeah I think he makes the final call on something like that

  75. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Ken says:
    February 21, 2022 at 8:33 pm
    The higher up the food chain the fewer the decision makers. If the owner of the team is not involved in the firing of an HC is worse than we even thought
    ————-
    Exactly. What’s more, it was Ross who hired Brian Flores… not some subordinate.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It was Chris Grier who targeted Flores and Ross signed off on it.

      Do you remember we did a poll on this site about who we should hire as our next HC and Flores was last because nobody knew who he was. Grier has connections with New England. He’s been in the NFL biz longer than Ross.

      Ross is the one who ultimately hires and fires anyone. But it’s not without council. Why is everyone trying to make this more complicated than it is?

  76. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Nothing screams loyalty, honor, discipline, and respect like Steve Ross actively SHITTING on every single hire he’s ever made while kicking him out the door. That’s an unforgivable business practice, as some have mentioned above by allowing lawsuits to come your way.

    Steve Ross needs to take a hot, steamy shit to his own face… for HE is the one who made the ultimate decisions. And if his advisors suck, he hired them, too. The buck stops with Ross.

    Ross is the one who made famous private jet and helicopter travels, trying to court the next best thing as our next HC. If he wants to be the FACE of our franchise like that, he deserves to get all the blame that comes his way.

    I wish I didn’t feel this way, but I’m sorry… Steve Ross made the bed he sleeps in. I’ve no personal vendetta against the guy, he’s just been terrible for our franchise on so many levels.

  77. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I don’t think y’all know how businesses run.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Hey, so long as you’re making bank, GRAND! Clearly, what you do is working for you: PROPS! There’s nothing back-sided here, man.

      I’ve been in BIG BIZ for nearly 1/4 of a century, and I KNOW how it runs: it’s more political than anything else, and it’s fugly. So long as it makes $$$ (BIG BIZ makes $$$, naturally, through hostile takeovers and the like), it becomes a tool of government. I know you know this.

      My grandfather founded an independent biz from scratch, as did one of my uncles. I understand how INDY works, very well: that’s part of how I was able to found my own INDY music biz.

      It’s the government regulations you need to be concerned about, and that applies to both INDY and BIG BIZ. But of course, BIG BIZ can get away with murder… not so much for INDYs.

      Now as it applies to our beloved Miami Dolphins, I think you could agree that the power structure (I call it their “beaurocracy”) is all kinds of messed up. Clearly, you don’t run a power structure as messed up as our Phins, man.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I’m pretty sure Ross signed of on the firing the HC

      Not sure where you are going with this. Some one needs to fire the HC. There’s not a lot of people between Ross and the HC. Basically it’s Grier or Ross. And it’s hard for me to believe makes a call like that on his own.

      We aren’t talking about a lower level employee – it’s the coach

  78. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    M13, Pablo Cruise was not disco. They were more 70’s pop with rock and jazz influences. Yeah I guess you could dance to it, but I never viewed them as disco.

    That said, there was a scene going on with ‘Saturday Night Fever’ in 1977 where a certain beat was popular and even legendary rock bands jumped on board. Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’ has some elements of that. Other pop tunes from the rock bands were doing it too. Even one of my favorite rock bands of all time Led Zeppelin dipped their toes in that in 1979. Dancing was a big thing at that time. Humans are a very physical species. LOL

    Not sure how to post a few examples on this blog with multiple links. But this was always what I heard during that time.

    Pink Floyd – Another Brick in the Wall 1979
    Led Zeppelin – Carouselambra 1979
    Stevie Nicks – Edge of Seventeen 1981

    You can all go find these songs. 🙂

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Man, I wasn’t trying to diss Pablo Cruise, Brother! I just wasn’t feeling the vibe on that one song ya posted. And to be fair and honest, there IS some disco that I can dig.

      I’ll check those songs you posted in time. Thanks!

  79. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    You think anyone is dancing to this? LOL

  80. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    How about this?

  81. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim, could ya dance to this one?! This is my shit to dance to!!!

  82. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I don’t get the semantics or word play here. Grier, the GM, hired and fired Flored, the HC, and Ross signed off. Isn’t it that simple? It’s also why I can’t see it as racial discrimination.

    I also can’t see Ross taking a helicopter trip to pick up Harbaugh without Grier….great idea boss Ross!?

  83. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Here we go! From what I remember chicks shook their hips to this. That’s what dudes were attracted to. It’s not that complicated.

  84. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Audi, y’all

  85. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Oh, one more thing… Steve and I brought it up yesterday…

  86. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I really don’t see why anyone might think they’re safe. As a new coach can McD meet with these players one on one to get a sense of the men and/or team chemistry or needs?

    https://www.thephinsider.com/2022/2/21/22944892/2022-miami-dolphins-salary-cap-space-and-potential-cap-casualties

  87. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    So this sums up the blog, after catching up from yesterday

  88. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Watching Bowden highlights, he’s a JAG running routes, can make the contested catch, gets every yard he can, shifty, and Swiss Army Knife

    He’s not a Welker or Cole Beasley type, that are quick, slippery route runners

    Hope Welker can put some slippery in his rock step

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      He was the closest thing we had to Waddle in 2020

      Would like to see him throw to Waddle

      Tua looked good rolling right in the Bowden video, wonder why he doesn’t try throwing right handed, when he rolls right, Mahomes will throw with his left

  89. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Why was Tua working out with Bowden? Security blanket for him, trying to rekindle

  90. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Guess I’m a bigger Ross fan than some. Biggest obligation an owner has football-wise is to make the best call he can as far as GM and HC. Based on what I read was psyched about the Gase, Flores and McDaniel hires. Liked that he was going young and innovative instead of bringing in a re-tread.

    So that covers HC hires for the last 6 years. Don’t see how can complain too much that they didn’t work out at that point.

  91. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I decided to just go BPA using what ever big board I picked and wound up getting needs as well. (the only BPA I didn’t take was two RB before Linstrom because I had already taken Hall.) and of course my obligatory kicker wasn’t the BPA in the 7th of course.

    TEAM PICKS
    29: R1 P29 LB Nakobe Dean – Georgia
    50: R2 P18 RB Breece Hall – Iowa State
    101: R3 P37 C Alec Lindstrom – Boston College
    120: R4 P16 WR Slade Bolden – Alabama
    124: R4 P20 LB Brandon Smith – Penn State
    158: R5 P15 WR Bo Melton – Rutgers
    199: R6 P21 OT Andrew Rupcich – Culver-Stockton
    222: R7 P3 K Cade York – LSU

  92. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Franchise Tag window opens today. I think they should put it on Ogbah and start negotiations with him.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      DE franchise tag amount is going to be like $17 mil+. Ogbah is good, but I don’t think he is worth that. If I was him would take it in a second, but then he might want the security of a long-term contract for like $12-14 mil.

  93. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “They tried to hurt me intentionally @buccaneers
    “Sent me out there after knowing I was still hurt
    “Tom said he would throw it if I came to play hurt I came
    “He didn’t throw it imagine being hurt having to play through this and being lied too”
    “Coach said if I couldn’t run on this get the f*** out of here
    “F*** all you MF
    “Still caint stop me @nfl”

    — Antonio Brown on instagram, who also included an X-ray of his injured ankle taken in October and caught 10 passes for 101 yards the week before his Game 17 meltdown (but could have re-injured.).

  94. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    What is you guys’ opinion on this?

    I would give them our 2nd in a second.

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