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Finsmob Unleashed 
MM quit calling plays your timing sucks
All 3 2nd half TOs we had to call because we can’t get the play in
All fucking year we wasted TOs on that stuff and it cost us
How long does it take to call a QB sneak
completely ridiculous
Apparently 54 seconds
That’s horrible
Enjoy the day!!!!
We legitimately had a chance to win this game and our inability to get the play in timely cost us.
ALL 3 TOs IN THE 2nd HALF
Exactly
We weren’t winning the SB, but a win would’ve been nice
If you can’t get the play in don’t huddle, even after a penalty
3 TOs in the 2nd half, and about a half dozen that were so close they could have been called delays.
What an unbelievable way to lose.
MM needs to work on his game management
He has been terrible with time management in the close of halves all year. It’s a bummer to lose this way.
That’s not a first down
Officials exposing themselves
Yellow line was off. I think it was a 1st
Doesn’t matter now, but I felt the Waddle spot was about half a yd short
OL has 43 around neck
Well played , with some poor decisions and timely penalties… restock for next year
Tough break, but odds were slim for the win even if we got the ball
Well they didn’t lay down and whine about the circumstances!
Players played pretty great in adverse conditions. Too bad our offensive play calling issues cost us a chance at the win.
We played a very valiant game. Shame we couldn’t have a healthy #1, but still a thriller of a game
That was our best postseason performance in a few decades
HELLUVA EFFORT BY MIAMI.
It will be an interesting off-season.
I was texting with friends of mine and wondering how Skylar Thompson who had 2 weeks if 1st team reps in practice was never given a hurry up package or 2 minute drill handful of plays to run. Waiting for plays to be sent in was preposterous, it killed us all day. Mostly it ruined our last drive, and if he had a handful of plays to run, that doesn’t happen
Can only prep a guy so much 🤷♂️😕
No, I don’t believe that for a second. They can be simple plays, Skylar has played the game, he was a starter in college. I’m sure it’s not beyond his comprehension
Going forward with this team, the most important issue is who our QB is next season. We need to have that worked out sooner than later. Do we need to try and get a starter or just a good backup. I’m hoping it’s just a solid backup
They came out today and said Tua will be the starting QB in 2023
That’s right, I forgot. I hope they mean it
I am rather surprised how pissed I still am considering I had us losing by two scores.
If we tried a QB sneak on 4th and they stopped us, I could live with it and say well done to the Bills. But to not even be able to run a play on 4th and 1 after having issues all game, I really feel like MM let the team down.
We were 15 yards from a game-tying fg
I’m pissed we didn’t win but I’m not pissed at the team.
I thought it was a really strong performance. I’m not even mad we lost. I’m mad at losing because of mechanical issues with getting the play calls in.
I called this shit out in week 3 against the Bills and a few more times over the next few weeks that McDaniel was too lackadaisical in his two minute playcalling and letting the clock run and getting the call in late.
The issues you have during the season end up being magnified in the post season and it legitimately cost us the game today after a herculean performance by the players.
I don’t know….I thought Skylar was the issue on calling the play, getting up the line, NEVER any urgency….lotty da.
I don’t think he had ANY situational awareness…..
….but he’s our 3rd string 7th round draft pick with little to no NFL experience.
This has been an issue all year, not just with Thompson.
No moral victory for me….
And does the fucking Oline know how to count….wtf?
I agree with that about the spot Kong. Waddle never hit the ground when he was I tially tackled, he did a somersault over the Bills players body and landed MAYBE. A yard shy of the first down.
Waddle’s drop in the first series and next 3 are ridiculous…wtf.
All pro WR dropping balls…lol
Damn, I basically missed the last 4 minutes of the game. I had to write a bond. Tried watching out the corner of my eye but then kept fucking up the paperwork. You can’t make any mistakes on a bond or you have to void it and rewrite it. Dudes name (public info) is Jeffry Malbranche St. Louis. I kept writing Jeffery. Tried to squeeze the e in there but fucked it up. Then I got that right and I fucked up the case number. I couldn’t focus. lol
Skylar Thompson looked like he was writing a bond in the huddle on the last drive
Damn, couldn’t pay that much attention. It was killing me.
I am really proud of this team. No hangover Monday for me.
^
It’s amazing really that our best players on offense this entire season had nearly no positive impact on this game at all, Hill, Waddle, Mostert, and we scored 31 points and lost by a FG
Add Tua in there too
Playing with 2 backup OG’s
One who can’t count…lol
We finally played some complimentary football. Our D got a score, our STs set up a short field with a punt return, and our defense got a couple of TOs that gave us short fields.
Sorry, the QB is standing on the line surveying the scene, that means you look at clock and get the ball off….at 5-7 plays standing set the line and doing what?
…at least 5-7 plays
How many drops this game?
Wonder how we stack up with the rest of the league in dropped balls this season. We have to be in the top 5 for dropped balls.
I’m pretty sure last time I looked late in the season we were either at the top of the league or near the top in drops.
Edmonds was really terrible. Waddle seems to have the dropsies like every 3rd game. Jeff Wilson had a couple of big drops this year.
Another problem that got magnified in the postseason.
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2 interceptions deep in own territory with other receivers wide open leading to short field TDs
? First INT was a prayer thrown up to end the first half in Buff territory.
That wasn’t an INT. His 1st INT was the bponehead throw deep in our territory on I believe our 2nd possession (might have been the 3rd).
…here we go with semantics and puppy dog analysis….both interceptions led to Bills TDs…..lol….oh but it’s ok because…lol
1:25 in 1st quarter, TD by Allen after Skylar interception…
2nd interception at 3:40 pm. Leads to short field and another Bills TD….lol, but not funny
D came to play….STs didn’t fuck up…lol
Krishna,
I would assume he was trying to see what defense they were in
Of course, but at some point you have be aware and I didn’t see much
Plus guys need to be set, we usually have motion that needs to be run, etc.
The QB needs a certain amount of time to get the play off, and our offense was consistently getting out of the huddle late.
Right. I saw it more of a problem getting plays in, not necessarily Skylar not getting them off in time. MM needed to do a better job getting plays in quicker.
That is the way I see it too. I can’t remember how many times this game we saw the clock running down and they hadn’t broken huddle yet. It’s possible Thompson was having issues in the huddle, but the problem was we were breaking the huddle too late too often. When you run as much motion as we do, it’s harder to just get up and hike it.
It happened a lot this year. McDaniel even addressed this issue after a game where it was particularly bad (can’t remember which game it was).
We’ll see what MM says. Maybe there were communication issues. I did see him screwing with his equipment during one timeout, like it was giving him problems.
It’s not a knock on Skylar, these are observations about a very inexperienced QB who also holds the ball too long and doesn’t see the field….it’s ok but he has a long way to go
^
Will be interesting how they put next years team together with a (right now) negative cap and only 38 players on contract. Spotrac shows -9mil.
Byron Jones either restructures or is a goner. Post Jun 1 cut we save 13.6mil with 4.7mil dead money. Bye Bye
He’s a 14.8 dead cap if we cut him pre 6-1, then we’re free and clear. Or he’s only a 4.7 2023 hit if we cut him post 6-1, with another 10 mil dead in 2024.
So we have options on how we treat him. If we really need the extra cap space in 2023 we can designate him a post 6-1 and push off some of that hit.
Gotcha, didn’t look at the whole picture.
Both playcaller and QB are responsible for play time management…..you can’t blameor the other, it’s both or no one’s fault
COACH! You need to get me the plays faster, I need more time beause I’m too slow….lol
Our top 5 players account for almost half next years cap. Hill, Chubb, Armstead, Byron Jones and Ogbah account for $110,298,488 of next years cap.
If Tua was healthy we win that game and relatively comfortably
^ not sure about comfortably but, yeah
Now that the season is over, I can’t imagine what we do at QB…
…even with Skylar, we did score 24 points on Bills D…..
….don’t think the play calling is an issue as much as it is execution
Tua is QB 1 and we need an experienced and reliable backup
I’ll take Skylar and the cheap contract. Bridgewater was supposed to be the savvy vet back-up…. was he better?
Well this explains why one of the calls by MM came in so late.
Refs should have reset the playclock then. I don’t recall if they did or not.
Hmmm…seems wanting to blame MM doesn’t work here….I wonder how many other times it doesn’t
….also both playcaller and QB, imo, are responsible for down time management…
You are saying Skyler wasn’t getting the ball snapped in time and that is flatout wrong. I said we weren’t getting out of the huddle in time and put that on McDaniel.
McDaniel explains below why we weren’t getting out of the huddle below. Compounding issues, not all McDaniel’s fault, but it defintiely had zero to do with Skyler not snapping the ball at the line because he didn’t have enough time once they broke the huddle.
With our 3rd string QB we lost by 3 to the Bills in Buffalo with Vegas giving people 13/14 points to get people to bet on the Phins.
All considered, was one of our best games of the year.
Hard to say we win if we had Tua, everything changes though, including the Bills gameplan and intensity. It would have been a totally different game altogether. More than likely though, we would have been better offensively
We win if we had good Tua, but that was most of his starts. San Fran or Bolts Tua we lose with.
Agreed. Totally different game, but you’d expect our offense would have moved the ball better.
McDaniel addresses the issues in the huddle at the beginning of his press conference. Call it compounding issues. That is why we were constantly late getting out of the huddle. Crowd noise, getting the call right in the huddle to all the new players, plays getting in late, and the 4th down was called a 1st.
…..getting the call right in huddle is what I kept noticing….Skylar looked like he was thumbing through a catalog….and didn’t know what he was looking for…lol
Now you saw issues in the huddle? What happened to he wasn’t getting the snap off at the line?
BS, it was no different with Tua
MM needs get rid of those long play names and get the play in quicker, at 30 seconds he’s still looking at his play sheet
Let someone else call plays
You didn’t see Skylar reading his arm and flipping through the plays….lol…ok
It’s been a problem all year. McDaniel specifically addressed it earlier in the year after a particularly bad game. It didn’t just start today. It got exacerbated because of playoff atmosphere. Like I said earlier, problems get magnified in the playoffs.
My friend just posted that they have gotten 29″ of new snow since he go to work at 3am and has been like this all day. Another wave coming in this evening and they expect it could double within the 24 hour period.
https://www.kirkwood.com/the-mountain/mountain-conditions/mountain-cams.aspx
As long as it stays cold it’s fine
Rookie coach and QB + long 10 second plays calls, with 15 words in them + motion on every play = WTF
Fix that rediculousness
Agree
All playcallers take their time to see what to call after results to decide what to call next….bullshit you can’t relay it to huddle and get to line ready for set-up to see the D….lol
stangerx says:
January 15, 2023 at 6:21 pm (Edit)
I’ll take Skylar and the cheap contract. Bridgewater was supposed to be the savvy vet back-up…. was he
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Need an upgrade over Skylar. He can’t run this offense. He just can’t read the field quick enough
You suggest another Vet backup? Another rookie will more than likely put us in the same boat. Not too many Purdy’s out there. LOL
Very inexperienced and that’s why it took him so long to call the play in the huddle, get everyone lined up, see the coverage and go….
….same issue with holding on to ball and running around and not finding the open receiver…he started his throw multiple times only to pull it back…
….he wasn’t sure in any aspect of the game including calling plays in huddle and lining up
4 false starts….
Guess it depends on how much you want to pay. Know Terry B is no better than Skylar though.
I’m still listening to the press conference. At the end, McDaniel says he’s not even sure it was the refs that told him 1st down. It may have been in his headset and he was under the assumption it was a 1st.
Another problem that needs to be fixed is whoever MM has in the booth relaying this type of info to him. We were terrible with our challenges this year and that is oftenmore about the team you have relaying info, not the HC.
If he had somebody tell him 1st down on that play, that is more bad intel.
I will completely agree with that…..
Every game I watch I see TEs wide open making catches, then getting YAC, we get neither
^
There’s a lot of time between now and next season, so Skylar has plenty of time to digest the offense, and get better at processing. He could be a decent enough backup, but I’d feel better with a guy like Gardner Minshew. I kind of felt that way with Teddy Bridgewater and we all know how that worked out
Minschew would not be a bad option, IMO.
I think that Cooper kid from Dallas is also a FA next year. I think I get the right name. There are a boatload available. The ones who don’t stick anywhere for very long.
Lots to learn for the first time HC. He needs better support on the sideline for sure
bailbondmike says:
January 15, 2023 at 6:41 pm (Edit)
You suggest another Vet backup? Another rookie will more than likely put us in the same boat. Not too many Purdy’s out there. LOL
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Absolutely need a Vet. Ideally it would be Jimmy G. He is the perfect insurance for Tua but he is likely to be looking for a starting opportunity. Ditto Geno Smith
Jimmy G wants to be a starter. He won’t come here if we say Tua is the starter. What’s worse than having a starting QB who can’t stay healthy? Having a starter and a backup that can’t stay healthy. Can’t imagine why you want Jimmy G.
Knows the system and could take over seamlessly if needed
For one game or two? He’s just like Tua but older. He can’t finish a season so we better have a good 3rd QB too
Free agent QBs
Tom Brady QB TB UFA Market Value
Baker Mayfield QB LAR UFA Market Value
Sam Darnold QB CAR UFA Market Value
Jimmy Garoppolo QB SF UFA Market Value
Teddy Bridgewater QB MIA UFA –
Daniel Jones QB NYG UFA Market Value
Case Keenum QB BUF UFA –
Mason Rudolph QB PIT UFA –
Jacoby Brissett QB CLE UFA Market Value
Geno Smith QB SEA UFA Market Value
Joe Flacco QB NYJ UFA –
Andy Dalton QB NO UFA Market Value
Mike White QB NYJ UFA –
C.J. Beathard QB JAC UFA –
Kyle Allen QB HOU UFA –
Taylor Heinicke QB WAS UFA Market Value
Lamar Jackson QB BAL UFA Market Value
Blaine Gabbert QB TB UFA –
Chase Daniel QB LAC UFA –
Chad Henne QB KC UFA –
Nick Mullens QB MIN UFA –
Drew Lock QB SEA UFA –
Brandon Allen QB CIN UFA –
Josh Johnson QB SF UFA –
Nate Sudfeld QB DET UFA –
Nathan Peterman QB CHI UFA –
Jeff Driskel QB HOU UFA –
Cooper Rush QB DAL UFA –
Brett Rypien QB DEN RFA –
Tyler Huntley QB BAL RFA –
John Wolford QB LAR RFA –
Phillip Walker QB CAR RFA –
Trace McSorley QB ARI UFA –
Jarrett Stidham QB LV UFA –
Bryce Perkins QB LAR ERFA –
Easton Stick QB LAC UFA –
Gardner Minshew QB PHI UFA –
Shane Buechele QB KC ERFA –
Mike White would be a decent signing
I’m cool with Brady backing up Tua. I could even see making it a compete thing.
I would not be
Thanks I’ll keep Skylar, at least he isn’t bothered by the rush as much as most on that list
Doesn’t do any good if you are afraid to throw the ball. Skylar can’t run this offense
I wonder who on that list M wants. LOL
LOL
I think McDaniel will get the playcalling mechanical issues fixed in the offseason. We had problems with it all year and he specifically mentioned the length of the playcalls and the time it takes sometimes after a game where it was a big problem with Tua at QB.
It was worse today because of a playoff atmosphere and some of the new faces on offense, and yes, that includes the QB.
I can move my position part way and admit that at least some of those late breaking huddles were very likely because a rookie QB was back there, lol.
Save 5-7 seconds by using no huddle
Lol….and I will say it’s both again, NOT one or the other takes all the blame.
And, I agree MM will find a way to “shorthand” the info….
…but you need the nuances for plays to be successful….
“…NOT one or the other takes all the blame.”
Now that I have calmed down and am a bit more measured, I can agree with this statement, lol, even if we likely still differ on how much that blame should be distributed between them.
MN 4th and 3 they hit a wide open TE for a 1st, what a concept
I want to keep Skyler at #3. He’s a rookie. Yeah, he isn’t seeing the windows quick enough to make plays enough, but let’s give him some time to develop.
I’d love to get Jimmy G to back up Tua, but he’s going to watnt to go somewhere he can start.
Exactly how I feel
And big money
I could handle if it were any of these. Not totally sold on Stidham though.
Case Keenum QB BUF UFA –
Andy Dalton QB NO UFA Market Value
Mike White QB NYJ UFA –
Taylor Heinicke QB WAS UFA Market Value
Cooper Rush QB DAL UFA –
Jarrett Stidham QB LV UFA –
Gardner Minshew QB PHI UFA –
Take out Dalton and I would be okay with that
After the performance today, you have to give this group another shot.
I have even moved my position on Boyer. That was a heck of a game by the defense after a couple of really good games against NE and the Jest. All when we really needed it. I’d still fire Crossman though.
BB Mike, I liked the way Stidham played this season.
Good point Steve….I don’t remember one no-huddle play call….we’re there any?
Gd autocorrect….were
At least 1 was called with about 10 minutes left
Did Boyer do enough to save his job today? Best defensive effort of the season imo
NOOOO!!!!! We lost 3 and 5 games in a row and D had plenty of blame in most
Up until today I would agree. After today I am not so sure
Did I imagine it, or did I hear them say at the beginning of the broadcast the Dolphins D was the best in the league over the last 4 or 5 games?
I have done a 180 on Boyer. I’m giving him another year and firing Crossman about 2 and a half hours ago, lol.
Does anyone realize it’s a 17 game season???? WTF? 4-5 games means nothing over a 17 game span…lmao
The lowest yards per game last 3 weeks of the season
Thanks, Ken. I knew I heard something like that but wasn’t sure. Jest and Pets aren’t exactly worldbeating offenses, but like I said, with the way the defense finished, I’m giving him another year.
Jets suck, Patriots suck….don’t remember the 3rd game, and this one?…that’s no fucking endorsement….lol
Also, Boyer leaving Howard on an island with Diggs was a disaster…
If Tenn QB Hendon Hooker falls to the 3rd round this draft because of his ACL tear, I am taking him.
Pass D this year was terrible…bottom of the league this season…endorsement?
Allen threw for over 300 yards today and ran for a TD….hell no
They beat the shit out of Allen today
One game, Ken. See my next post….also it’s a 17 game season
Our defense played great today. It’s the difference between knowing what happened on the field vs just looking at a stat.
Allen is one of the top 3 QBs in the league. When he is on, you can’t keep him shut down, you can only hope to contain, get some big stops, and have an offense that can keep up. Our defense not only made plenty of stops, but also scored a TD and our offense gave the Bills a few short fields for easy scores.
And our defense made Allen look pedestrian today.
Boyer’s D did same thing last year! Decided last 6 games of season, he better get his D ready and fucking game plan….probably so he wouldn’t get fired….wtf kind of endorsement is that?
The defense was fantastic today. This wouldn’t even be a game unless we got that performance from it
The real question is why was it just today?
JJ
Good question.
Same thing happened last year.
That was a reply to Ken ‘why was it just today?’
Lol at Vikings 11-0 this year in 1 score games losing 31-24
that is awesome, lol
^
Not surprised Minny went out in the first rd.
ONE game! A rivalry game at that…you better no how to game plan against your rivals….lol
If you want to endorse a coach after ONE good game out of 18, so be it…lol
Lol…because he asked it after I did? Good question Ken….lol
That was to CK? I’ve asked all the questions and Ken comes around and asks them again an they’re good…lol
You haven’t asked that question. And you have made it clear you don’t care about the answer to that question. You just want to move on.
My 7:35 post specifically addresses ‘why was it just today’ as in ‘Boyer did same thing last year’…..why does Boyer’s D show up toward end of season or for last 3 games against shit teams….lol
Then, at 7:36 post I point out it’s ONE game….lol
I guess my opinion or question doesn’t count since you just move on to other comments
Right, you are pointing out it was one game and you don’t care about reasons why and you want to move on. You aren’t asking the question ‘why’? You have stated you want to move on multiple times.
Well Ken asked the question and has stated he is now on the fence with Boyer. He cares about the answer to that question, or at least I think it’s a good question because I care about the answer to that question and wonder if it’s something that can change.
I asked the question multiple times and gave examples and reasons for moving on and because of ONE good game you’ve done a 180….like Ken.
I don’t see one-offs as convincing evidence to save a job….I am evaluating the season and last year. The basis for moving on and it’s stated and questioned pretty clearly.
I am not hanging my hat on a ONE game evaluation but you are doing 180s. OK.
It wasn’t just one good game. Right up the board we talk about the last 3 games of the seaosn and the playoff game.
Fantastic job today.
Awesome job last week.
Good job two weeks ago.
Apparently good job 3 weeks ago (I didnt watch it, going by what they said today).
Awesome job in week 1.
Awesome job in the Steelers game.
Awesome job in the first Bills game.
Awesome job at the end of the year when it matters most.
They had their moments. These things aren’t static. I’d rather have a team that plays great defense at the end of the year and the playoffs than one that plays good most of the year, then blows it the last month.
I called out the D to win the Jest game. They did. I called for a good defensive performance today to give us a chance. They gave it to us.
That is enouogh for me. You’ve made it clear it isn’t enough for you. Not much more to say unless you want to keep saying “it was one game” over and over.
We sacked Josh Allen 8 times. Bet that has NEVER happened before. Yeah, he threw for 300 against X, Holland and 3 backup DB’s. He also threw 2 picks.
Awesome job defense!
Awesome job today and the other 17 games?
Everyone at BEGINNING of the year wondered if this Boyers D or Flores and does Boyer have the chops to run a top 10 D this year or top half.
The answer is NO. One game does not make a season.
Playoff games Trump all regular season games though
You have to get to the playoffs first, establish an identity, then turn it up.
Can anyone on this blog tell me what the Dolphin D identity was this year?
Any of you see or hear about this ??
Despite being at the forefront of an embarrassing display of time management that essentially handed the game over to the Bills, McDaniel was the focus of the internet’s attention for appearing to vape on the Dolphins sideline in the middle of a playoff game.
You can view the video here.
In the video, it appears McDaniel is discreetly hitting the vape after moving his headset to the side — hiding the device in a black glove.
Not exactly cLear either way …
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Yeah sorry not sure how to shorten that
Can’t tell if that’s what he is doing
I agree but it’s blowing up saying that’s why pally alls were so slow .. WTFE
Play calls
I highly doubt that was the reason
I’m extraordinarily proud of our Phins this season. We damn near defeated the preseason Super Bowl favorites today with our 3rd-string QB, no Mostert, a banged-up O-Line, a decimated Secondary, dropsies from our WRs, more bad officiating, a rookie NFL HC, in the cold, on the road, and as 14-point underdogs…
3 (THREE) POINTS AWAY from sending it to OT! Not too shabby at all!
In 3 games against the heavy Super Bowl favorites this year (the Bills), they cumulatively outscored us by a mere 4 (FOUR) points!
We’ve got something to build upon, y’all!
Yeah, sucks that we lost today, but I think the whole team and our fanbase deserve to hold their heads up high after all the injuries, BS zebra calls, and a brand-new Offensive system installed.
Guess what, NFL? WE’RE BACK!!!
GO PHINS!!!
HELL YEAH!!!
Oh yeah… and Jason Sanders was PERFECT on the day! GREAT for him with so much pressure on his shoulders.
Grier, McDaniel, Boyer and Tua are back. Skylar is the backup.
We need a better backup given Tua’s injury history
We shall see. I think Skylar performed very admirably as a rookie. Another year with Coach McDaniel and he may become VERY good.
I don’t see anything positive about Skylar’s performance. He was disappointing after the preseason he had
Skylar can get better. The guy played his ass off today. He was a 3rd string rookie who had to play some games this year. The playoff experience will help him. Big game experience.
Does anyone care who wins tonight? I kind of hate both teams
Our team is OUT… I no longer care who wins.
I’m a charter member of the ABB club.
Anybody But Buffalo (a holdover from the OJ Simpson days).
LOL, NICE!
Ok….CK….obviously you’ve seen enough in 17 games but make it sound like there are special games where D needs to show up….they were all special when the D played well….
When the D didn’t play well, it didn’t matter because it wasn’t a special game.
I am looking at 2 seasons of Boyer’s game planning and adjustments, and only this game made you do a 180….as you stated.
And, as you stated Jets and Pat’s aren’t offensive juggernaut….and looking up the GB game as the 3rd, I wouldn’t consider that a dominant D performance either….
….big plays were given up all year long on D….today was the best game of the season and actually quite surprising considering their season history.
There are special games the D needs to show up. But those aren’t the only game the D showed up this year. You are the one that keeps talking about it’s 17 games, but you keep dismissing the other games the D played well as if they don’t matter. If you’re looking at 17 games, then it wasn’t only one game. I listed some of the games they played from good to great this year.
And it wasn’t just this game that made me do a 180 on Boyer. It was the cumulitive last few weeks. I only announced I’ve done a 180 after this game because I wanted to see the D play well this game on top of what they did the last 3 or 4 weeks. If they’d played well against the Pack, Pets, and Jest, then laid an egg in the playoffs, I’d still be moving on. But they played well at the end of the year and continued into the playoffs.
The D put up some of their best performances when the season was on the line. That matters to me.
It matters to me how the D shows up for the season, and for the last 2 seasons and I stated it multiple fucking times….lol….you keep ignoring everyone of these statements…omfg
And, I fucking stated it before Ken asked the question after I asked the question….
…I’m done….you’re right…great D, great Boyer, nothing to see or question. D should stand pat….lol
I’m not ignoring those statements. They don’t aren’t part of the arguement because I’m not challenging your desire or belief Boyer needs to go. I understand your reasoning. It is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I am not even saying you’re wrong.
I am defending my own reasoning for being ok giving Boyer another year. Also an opinion. I am pointing out the reasons I think this, and you want to keep arguing your point even though both of our positions have been stated. I’ll go as long as you want to.
Ken says:
January 15, 2023 at 8:41 pm
I don’t see anything positive about Skylar’s performance. He was disappointing after the preseason he had
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We must remember: when Skylar was playing in the preseason, he was up against backup players. Of course he looked better in the preseason than he did in the regular season and today in the playoffs, where he was playing against All-Pro players.
I understand that but I still expect better than what what he delivered when he had to play. He is very slow in seeing the field. Both his ints were terrible decisions. His completion % was crap even taking drops into account.. You can’t win a big game with play like that
He’s a rook, Hulkster. Peyton Manning was no better when he was a rook.
I loved watching Jim Leland smoke on the dugout steps after they outlawed smoking in the stadiums!
Ken – this offense is built around Tua. Like I said earlier, Tua makes throws so quick, he knows where receivers are going to be and throws them open to that spot. You can’t expect Skylar to know all these routes so precisely that he can play like that after only 2 weeks of first team reps. It’s clear he was looking for the receivers to get separation and get open, that’s why he was holding the ball so long, and mostly too long. He’ll be a better player next season.
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randydolfan1947 says:
January 15, 2023 at 8:46 pm
I’m a charter member of the ABB club.
Anybody But Buffalo (a holdover from the OJ Simpson days).
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Yeah, man! I CANNOT root for an AFC East rival, either.
But remember this: IF the Bills win the Super Bowl this year, they only outscored us by a mere 4 points in 3 games… WE’RE BACK!!!
I don’t know that we’re back….
We have a fragile QB who is a concussion away from ending his career (that is not hyperbole, but more than likely), a very inexperienced 3rd string QB, no real OL to speak of (coaching seems to be huge this year), a D with no identity (I asked the blog what the identity was and only got a “we played well against Bills”….lol) so Boyer’s a lock, and special teams that mostly sucked this year….lol.
I’m not that encouraged, but I remain hopeful.
I like the Bengals , as long as they aren’t in our way , also cheering for Jacksonville in the AFC… NFC eagles
Basically AFC any one but Buffalo or Baltimore
Tua needs a new helmet (safer for concussions), learn to avoid the big hits (throw it away), and learn how to fall in a safer manner… he’s going to be fine after that.
Easier said than done….it’s the NFL
We ended up a 9-9 team, 9-8 team before Bills tonight. If that’s back, that’s a very low expectation or definition of “back.”
Krishna,
If I’m not mistaken, Tua has had a new OC every single year dating back to high school. This potent Offense is only going to get better in year 2 of Coach McDaniel. I’d call that something to get excited about! 😀
And our Defense is only going to get better as our injured cats come back to health. This is GOOD! 😀
M – maybe Tua needs a Bryan Cox neck pad so when he falls backwards his head won’t snap as much.
https://images.app.goo.gl/TjCwWtjXje9FUc5f8
Oy! But that just might be the fulcrum to break his neck, though!
Well, we don’t want that to happen!!
My bad, just clicked on the image being it didn’t show on the blog. YES! That would be most acceptable for Tua! I forgot just how tall that neck pad was! 😀
Good point
He reminds me of a newborn baby before getting neck control
CK if it’s your opinion to do a 180 on Boyer based on the last 4 games of the season (like he did last year when we won the last 8 games of season and the D started coming on), fine. Like I said and apparently you finally understand, that is not reason enough for me to keep him. It is for you. Great.
I have always understood your point. You stated it emphatically very early on in this conversation and you have stated it for weeks. Like I said, I was never challenging your opinion, only defending mine. Thankfully, it is you who apparently finally understands my position.
M13, I have NEVER questioned Tua’s talent ONLY his fragility…..if he’s not there for the playoffs, what’s the point?
Revert to my 9:05 PM post above, man.
A better helmet helps to minimize the chances and damage, but will not prevent them.
I can tell you who KC and Buffalo are rooting for in this game
lol
Mike E,
What’s your take on our ’22 season, Bro?
I would say our D has better talent than in recent years….overcoming Boyer’s inadequacies at strategy and game planning. That’s what I think we can build on, heal our talent, and find someone who can maximize it.
Our whole Defensive problem has been not being able to rush the QB with 4 guys. As a result, we’ve relied on blitzing too often.
We traded for Chubb to remedy the problem and it’s helped somewhat… though even Chubb has been beaten up as of the last couple of weeks (hand: Chubb with clubbed hand).
It’s going to get much better next year!
Looks like road Apple had to be scraped up off of the field