I’m not worried about who we hire as Defensive Coordinator for our team. I’m pretty confident that anyone we bring in here will utilize the talent we have better than Josh Boyer did. I suppose you go with what got you there, and Boyer went down using that mantra. The Cover Zero blitz scheme is what he runs, and if he was going to lose, it wasn’t because he changed it up to something he hasn’t employed here. On the other hand, could you see the Tennessee Titans OC using RB Salvon Ahmed as his primary back and in their power running scheme and feeding Ahmed the ball 40 times in a game? Of course not, because you have to have the power back to utilize the scheme properly. With all the injuries to our secondary, it’s simple to point out that the players we had out there on the field at the end of the season, or even halfway through the season till the end, were not capable of being left out there to cover man to man with no help. The problem was compounded when we didn’t get pressure, despite using extra rushers. Xavien Howard had a poor season, he was not playing anywhere his former pro bowl level. We had Noah Igbinoghene, Justin Bethel, Keion Crossen (who played the entire season with a subluxated shoulder) and even safeties Elijah Campbell and Eric Rowe playing downs at CB. There’s a very good reason why our defense was one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL.
I feel that whether we hire the ultra experienced Vic Fangio, less experienced Sean Desai, hire our own LB coach Anthony Campanile, or Kris Richards from the Bears, our defense is ready to flourish. The talent is undeniably there, with a plethora of good to excellent defensive lineman, starting with the excellent Christian Wilkins who is one of the finest interior defensive lineman in the game. When healthy, Emmanuel Ogbah is a stout pass rusher, consistently getting pressure. He hasn’t been a double digit sack guy, but he’s had 9 sacks twice, and probably would have exceeded that this season if he was healthy.Then there’s the ultimate lunch pail guy, Zach Sieler who had his best season as a Dolphin. Due to the Ogbah injury, Sieler got lots of playing time and made the most of it. Our most promising guy I’ve yet to mention, that’s OLB Jaelan Phillips. While Phillips sack total dropped 1.5 sacks from 8.5 to 7, he was all over QB’s this season with 25 QB hits. He also upped his tackle total by 19, and he’s a player that the opposing offense needs to account for. We added Bradley Chubb, and while he absolutely didn’t make the expected impact this season, this was a move for now and beyond. Chubb split the season with the Broncos for 8 games, and 8 games with the Dolphins. He had 5.5 sacks with Denver, yet just 2.5 with our Dolphins. He only played 59% of the snaps with us as opposed to 74% with Denver. I’d expect that to change significantly next season, no matter who our defensive coordinator is.
Our secondary was just riddled with injuries, some guys played the entire season at way less than 100%, such as Xavien Howard who battled groin injuries for a good part of the season. We lost S Brandon Jones in our 7th game. We lost one of my favorite players, DB Nik Needham in our 6th. We never had top cover corner CB Byron Jones, who elected to have ankle/achilles surgery in March, and although he was expected at the start of the season, it seems as if he pulled a “Will Fulller” on us, and sat out the entire season. There were some positives that came out of this, we unearthed a solid talent at CB in UDFA Kader Kohou. Kohou played in 15 games, starting 13 of them. While Kohou may not be the Jets Sauce Gardner, value wise, he’s pretty darn close. Garder, while being one of the top cover corners in 2022, his rookie season, he was drafted #4 overall, while the Dolphins signed Kader Kohou as an undrafted free agent. the jets will be paying Garder $7.6M next season while the Dolphins will be paying Kohou $870K. Someone is due for a raise! Eric Rowe did his best to replace Brandon Jones, but we clearly missed his impact. He’s currently rehabbing from his ACL surgery and should hopefully be ready at the start of the season. As far as Byron Jones is concerned, it’s unlikely he ever dons a Miami Dolphins uniform, especially carrying the current $18M + cap hit. He can be released post June 1st and save about $14M of his salary, and defer the cap hit to the next year. We’ll see on this one, but I just can’t see him back here.
ILB Elandon Roberts had a great season for us in ’22. Roberts led the team with 107 tackles, and was 2nd on the team with 10 TFL. I admittedly undervalued Roberts, and he may actually be a better fit if Vic Fangio gets the job. Fangio’s 4-3 defense, or “6-1” requires a thumper in the middle at MLB, and Roberts is just that, especially when compared to his ILB mate, #55 Jerome Baker. Baker had a solid season, notching 100 tackles for the 3rd time as a Dolphins LB, and adding 4 sacks. Roberts really impressed this season though, and though I thought of him more of a limited athlete, he made tackles sideline to sideline, and many times blew up plays in the backfield with speed and excellent technique tackling. If I were a defensive coordinator perusing at the Dolphins defensive roster, I’d be particularly excited about Wilkins, Phillips, Chubb and Holland. Holland had somewhat of a down year, having to play much different scheme wise with all of the injuries in the secondary. He’s a very instinctive player who I’m sure will be back in a role that better suits him next season. Chubb will thrive here, whoever takes the reins of this defense will have both he and Phillips over 10 sacks each, I’m almost certain of that. Phillips is such an impressive athletic specimen at 6’5 270, he’s going to get better, you can just see he’s ready to bust out.
One of the biggest questions in the secondary is can Xavien Howard be healthy enough to be a dominant cover corner? He was down in every category, starting with a career low 1 INT, playing in 15 games. He had 1 INT in 2019, but only played 5 games. He was also way down in passes defensed with 12, and I can tell you as someone who watched each and every game, he was targeted more this season than any other. He was targeted 80 times, and compare that to 106 for Kader Kohou, it’s not as much of a disparity as you would expect. He was toasted plenty this season. He needs to come back healthy next season, but of course a scheme change away from the “Cover Zero” will take a lot of pressure off all of our DB’s. We need our talented front 7 to be the predominant pass rushers, and we need them to be much more successful next season. Blitzing should be reduced substantially, and I think our secondary with that change alone, will be better. Expecting DB’s to cover one on one with no help, and not get to the QB after a few seconds is defensive suicide. It’s just not feasible. Besides the disadvantage it put our secondary in, how many times was our pass rush behind and approaching the QB, who then was able to step up and either throw for a completion, or simply gash us for big gains by running the football as a ballcarrier? Way too many is the answer, we all saw it happen, time and time again. That will be corrected as well, just by changing the defensive scheme.
Let’s face it, defense isn’t what it used to be, you can’t hit anymore, especially if it’s the QB, or a “defenseless receiver”. One positive is “Roughing the passer” calls will be able to be challenged next season, although at what rate these will be overturned remains to be seen. There were tons of egregious RTP calls made all over the NFL, but the sack by Jaelan Phillips on NFL precious QB Justin Herbert, when Jaelen Phillips hot Herbert, knocking him down, and in order not to injure the QB and land on him with his full body weight, spread his arms and cushioned his fall on the QB, like doing a push up. Of course, the flag came out immediately, and that’s precisely the type of call you’d expect to be challenged and overturned, but again, that remains to be seen. So whether we hire Fangio, Desai, Richards, or hire from within, Anthony Campanile, I feel like our defense will be considerable better next season, and if our QB, Tua Tagovailoa can stay healthy all season long, I like our chances next season!
#stangerstrong
GO DOLPHINS!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
That receiver needs to learn to celebrate sooner so I can tell what’s going on
MaHomes is incredible
Can’t wait for Tua to beat him next year
I wish this game and the first game started earlier today
It’s 9pm and it’s still the 3rd qtr
IDK what you’re talking about, it just got dark
East Coast for a life!
Is it “perfectly thrown” if a defender tips it
Lol
My favorite was when he explained how the defender isn’t reading the QB, but is instead reading the defender.
That is my favorite Mahomes pass so far
Mine was the empty hand fumble 😁
Fangio is the highest paid coordinator in the league. Ross opened the checkbook. That’s what he’s good at. Now stay out of it. LOL
He’s basically a pile of meat with a pen in front of a checkbook to most of us
Steve, you’re probably right that is how it was called, and maybe there is a nuance I’m missing (since they actually reviewed it), but how can they give him forward progress to the reach out when he voluntarily brought the ball back himself? That is the same as voluntarily running backwards. It’s not like the endzone where he just has to break the plane.
It is when he’s got defenders draped around him
Gotcha. I don’t know the specifics of that rule. So if his body is stopped, he gets the full extent of a stretch regardless of where the ball ends up.
Fantasy football now being taxed/ regulated
That’s just crazy and it always amazes me how so many deep plays happen on 4th down
Late hit OB no call, no problem td
Feels like KC has squandered too many chances this game
Yeah, was thinking before the fumble this game is over
Mahomes’ injury caused the fumble
Why isn’t it holding, when the OL are tackling the defenders in a scrum?
Okay Dolphins defenders, start watching some tape of Vic Fangio coached defenses to get a head start on what to expect.
I know what to expect
BLOOD & SACKS & GUTS & TURNOVERS
👍
He’s known to turn around defenses quickly and put good units on the field. 10 times his defenses have finished top 10 in yards allowed and points allowed in 22 years as DC and HC.
At least one of these games was good
KC gets a muligan on 3rd down. wow
Can you make the cheat any more obvious
What no flag again
Cin with their first chance to take the lead, since 1st qtr
Burrow abused 32
Wow!!!
STF up Romo, same as a punt
A 3rd down punt…
3rd & 3 at CIN 36
(7:02 – 4th) (Shotgun) J.Burrow pass deep right intended for T.Higgins INTERCEPTED by J.Williams (B.Cook) at KC 18. J.Williams to KC 14 for -4 yards (T.Higgins).
If it was incomplete the result of the punt would’ve been similar
Why call interference there and not on Chase before int?
This announcing pair is soooooo much better than Fox. I am really enjoying this game, and Romo, and Nance
Not by much, but better today
My brother, that doesn’t know all the intricacies of the game is bitching about the calls, and he never does
As good as Ja’Marr Chase I feel like the Bengals will always regret not taking Sewell bc their OL doesn’t look good today
Hard to disagree with Chase pick
Wow horrible grounding
Lol on 3rd down pick up
Chris Jones is a beast.
Mahomes needs about 20 yards now….
That’s easy for him
I’ve had flashbacks the last hour of our, longest game ever, playoff game on Christmas in KC
Butker about to kick a bomb
What a bad play. He already way out of bounds.
Really bad play for Ossai who had a good game and is a good defender
Cin showing their stripes
A little acting by Mahomes but the little push was out of bounds.
Not saying it shouldn’t have been a penalty. It was the right call.
58 should get the ‘dumbest play of the post season’ award
He’s going to have an awful night.
Now he’s crying
Crazy way to lose. This game was going to OT.
I think Butker would’ve made a long one anyways, but…
Get ready for grilled steaks vs cheese steaks on food network this week
BBQ for KC
Yep
Cin lost to Pitt about 10 years ago in the playoffs by a horrible personal foul, on 4th down I think
Perfect football day for me. We’re hiring Fangio and I got both teams I was rooting for going to the SB.
Fly eagles fly
Decision of the game was Cin snapping the ball on 2nd down and long with about 20 seconds on the 40 sec clock and about 40 seconds left on running clock
I feel bad for Ossai. You’re not the only reason your team lost. Both teams could go back and look at a lot of missed opportunities or bad plays. This game could have gone either way with a play here or there. But his play was the one that set up the game winner. So he’s gonna have to deal with that for a few.
Yeah, me too… I feel bad for Ossai.
WOW! What an incredible game… we outbid the rest of the league for Vic Fangio! 😀
HELL YEAH!!!
We did what we hoping for. Thank you Ross for the checkbook now stay out of it. 😉
EXACTLY, Bro!!! 😀
Glad the team is already shutting down the Tom Brady rumors.
Me too!
Thy Knight (@ThyKnight3) says:
January 29, 2023 at 9:18 pm
Okay Dolphins defenders, start watching some tape of Vic Fangio coached defenses to get a head start on what to expect.
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Yessir, and I expect our first pick (2nd round of course) will be Defensive in a nod to Fangio. And I’ve gotta think that with the aging X (knee issues, almost akin to Jay Ajayi’s bone-on-bone issues) and the REAL possibility of Byron Jones getting cut (post-June 1st), we’re looking at a CB.
We shall see!
Yeah the 2nd round is the run on CBs round.
Were the Bengals talking shit this week because Kelce seemed to think so? Even Mahomes made that cigar comment.
Haha! I noticed that as well!
INCREDIBLY, the Cincinnati Bungles Bungle away yet another key game. I think Cincy has a slightly better team than does Kansas City, especially with Mahomes limping around with an ankle injury. But this was a simple case of “Brains Over Braun!” In a key situation, Ossai came up stupid and it cost his team a chance to go to the Super Bowl. Thus, like Buffalo, Cincinnati has NOT won a single Super Bowl despite having one of the most talented teams in the NFL.
NOW the big question is, “Can Mahomes get healthy enough in time for Super Sunday?” NO ONE thinks Chad Henne can lead the Chiefs to a Super Bowl victory, do they??
Mahomes now has an entire week off before he even has to practice for a game. He’ll be out there.
JMO, I think Mahomes was milking it a little bit. I foresee a fully healthy #15 in the Super Bowl.
TIM & MR. SPIKES; I AGREE Mahomes will be the starter for the Super Bowl. But there’s NO WAY he can be 100 per cent, coming off a high ankle sprain. He’ll be ONE SHOT ON HIS BAD ANKLE away from the sidelines on Super Sunday.
SO I EXPECT a few cheap shots from the Eagles in an attempt to get #15 out of the lineup.
CONVERSELY, if Mahomes plays as well as he did tonight, the Chiefs are likely to win yet another Super Bowl. –I’m NOT CONVINCED the Philly team is as good as some reporters seem to think they are.
OUT FOR TONIGHT.
Y’all, I can’t express how truly AMPED I am about the hiring of Vic Fangio! What he’s going to be able to do with all of our chess pieces is going to be incredible. The future is looking hella bright for us in ’23, IMO.
I hear ya. I’m trying to catch up with all the giddiness that others were experiencing today. LOL
Here’s another thing we’ve learned about Mike McDaniel. He can acquire top coaches to his staff. It was reported that him and Fangio have a good relationship but I’m not sure how. Of course Fangio had to be paid, but he also had to join a team he believes in. He signed a 3 year deal with a 4th year option.
That is CERTAINLY a feather in Coach McDaniel’s cap… regardless of what Steve Ross is going to pay Fangio.
Someone earlier (was it Manitoba?) asked if there’s a salary cap for coaches/coordinators. No, there is not. That comes directly from the owner’s wallet.
^
I must hit the hay as well. It’s a GRAND time to be a fan of our franchise! IMO, with Vic Fangio’s Defense, we could have made a run at the Super Bowl this past year.
Now then… Tua’s going to learn to throw the ball away or ‘stop, drop, and roll’ before a sack in the ’23 season, keeping him healthy. Imagine a 17-game healthy Tua, coupled with a Vic Fangio-led Defense… WINNING!!! 😀
NOW LETS KILL THE ’23 NFL DRAFT!!!
Oh yeah… and FA first! 🙂
Target some 2nd tier quality vets to upgrade here and there and then land some good draft picks. Get some guys back from injury and we can compete.
It’s sounds good on paper, errr… I mean a blog. 🙂
I wonder if Vic Fangio now interviews LB coach Anthony Campanile to see if he’s a fit. He’s probably going to seek some assistant coaches that he knows understand his concepts.
I know I’m the only one on right now, but delving into Vic Fangio even more which I’ve been doing for a couple of weeks now. He uses multiple fronts including both 3-4 and 4-3. That 4-3/6-1 split is one scheme to counter the outside zone rushing scheme. It’s not the totality of the scheme he runs.
He does play a lot of Cover 6 which is a form of the quarters defense. With teams using 3 WR almost all the time it’s basically a 5-2-4 with 6 dropping into coverage and mixing who rushes and who drops. Kind of like the zone/blitz that Dick LeBeau employed. Sometimes a DB sneaks up on the blitz and one of the front 5 drops into coverage. You never know when it’s happening. Holland and Jones are good fits for that as blitzing Safeties. We’ve already seen that.
The main thing isn’t just the schemes. But a seasoned coach in Fangio and the talent he has to work with. I think that was a big selling point. He knows he has talent to work with. Most of them are young or entering their prime. I feel he’s the perfect coach at the right time.
“Miami Dolphins defensive coach Bill Arnsparger developed the zone blitz in 1971. He started by placing linebackers on the defensive line and having them drop back into coverage, and eventually included regular defensive linemen as well. The scheme did not gain widespread use in professional football until Dick LeBeau refined it with the Cincinnati Bengals and popularized the zone blitz in the early ’90s, while being the defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers, earning Pittsburgh the title of “Blitzburgh”. Though the zone blitz has become common throughout the NFL, the 3–4 defense—3 defensive linemen, 4 linebackers—lends itself particularly well to this style of play, and LeBeau has continued to utilize it as the defensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans as recently as the 2017 season.”
This is not Vic Fangio’s bread and butter but he does dial it up at times. Our personnel can play multiple. That’s the key. Zone has to be taught and coached up though. It’s more cerebral than man coverage. You don’t just flip to it. Totally different techniques and assignments.
I don’t know anything about Vic Fangio, but seasoned, well-respected, and historically one of the best at building and scheming defenses sounds like great qualities to bring to MM led Dolphins. And the two have a history, “know” each other.
A breath in of fresh air, now I’d like to exhale with “show me.”
Seems like a perfect fit…..fuckin ay!
How have you never heard of Vic Fangio watching football for two decades or more?
There’s a reason a bunch of us said please go after Fangio, he’s the best available and one of the best DC’s in the league.
LOL….and I was listening to a “bunch of [you]” and glad you got your man.
Also, to be clear I stated, “I don’t know anything about Vic Fangio…” I have heard the name…lol.
Now, we need to move to the 3rd unit of this team, the not so special, Special Teams…lol…especially disastrous…oh my.
Talking about Romo the broadcaster yesterday brought to mind how close we are to having Brady the broadcaster. That is going to be sickening. I think I’d rather have Brady play another 10 years in the NFC than listen to him calling games I’m watching.
I guess I should be thankful the deal is with Fox, so at least most of his calls will be NFC games, lol.
IMO our special teams suffered from attrition. As our defense got banged up we had to elevate backups to play, this put way more pressure on the young guys who previously could concentrate on special teams, but because of injuries had to play substantial snap counts at Defense.
It all ties together.
Absolutely! The 53 man roster used 70+ players to just make the playoffs.
So I have been reading this morning the opinions of the talking heads on how Fangio’s hire will change our Defense. Beside the differences in formation, etc one of the main narratives I have read is that Fangio blitzes way less than we have under Boyer.
Under Boyer this season we blitzed 33% of the time (third most in the league) while Fangio seldom has ever blitzed more than 28% of the time. Some will say WOW that is a big difference 5%. Last season we ran 1086 defensive plays. 5% is 54.3 plays. That equates to just over 3 plays per game.
My point being that between the high and low the way teams play things there is very little actual difference when it is all tallied.
So we blitz 4 plays less a game. Does that change the outcome? My hope is yes. Me expectation? Typical Dolphins disappointment.
It’s not just about blitzing. The game is about matchups week to week against different opponents.
I don’t think Josh Boyer was the problem. But Vic Fangio is an upgrade.
OH, I’m not against the move. They seem to have gotten their guy. I am just a jaded fan and am prepared for disappointment again this season.
I wonder which position coaches they are going to change now. We know they let go the safeties coach, outside linebacker coach and assistant linebacker coach when the fired Boyer, so there are those three openings. I am very curious to see what other moves he is allowed to make.
If Fangio calls a zero blitz on 3rd and 17 I will start to worry
A large part of our problem on defense was based on situational playcalling. It’s not how much they blitz that matters – it’s when they blitz
I didn’t watch any football this weekend. It was pleasant, LOL. I read an article this morning that the Refs had their fat thumbs on the scale for KC during the game. Did you guys see that? Poopart says it was pretty egregious. Multiple missed blocks in the back on one return, hands to the face not called, ticky tacky PI called against Cincy but not against KC, holding to protect Mahomes not called again and again.
Was it really that bad?
It was pretty bad, with nothing worse than a mulligan called, after Cin stopped them on 3rd down
PI not called on KC, next play was an int
But in the end a stupid PF push on Mahomes OB that gave KC 15 yards for an attempted 45 yard FG with 8 seconds left
I wouldn’t say egregious. But it was pretty bad.
It would have been better if Cincy didn’t actually earn most of them
Adam Beasley seems to agree with Poopart
Some good points this morning on STs and Fangio
Looking forward to seeing the D change from surprising an O to punching them in the mouth
Hope this is just mischief-making?
Hope Grandma got out based on yesterday’s news?
I’ve seen 3 or 4 people now say they’ve talked to Fangio and that it isn’t a done deal yet. One was a Broncos beat reporter (don’t remember who it was)
If true, Fangio sure does talk to a lot of reporters because they’ve all said they talked directly to him 🤔
If we do get Fangio, here’s a War and Peace breakdown on the schemes he runs (7-day trial required to read it all)
He’s going to have some fun with C-Dub.
Hmmmmmm, I thought the cap was going WAY up because of “the new TV deals”
Further evidence…
You know? I have NOT seen the announcement by the Dolphins about Fangio and like Kong posted above, I have now seen 3 or 4 tweets / posts with “Not so fast”
I hate when shit gets reported premature.
If our target is Fangio, we should have signed the 350 pound NT Tyler Shelvin to a futures contract. Titans beat us to it. He’s a space eater.
MMMMMHHHHMMMMMMMM
Exactly how I saw it go down
While you are all nervous for yet another confirmation
The Pork Strikes!
🐖💨
Ok 😉😉
It’s a good point about not being able to focus on STs, but every player is considered for that unit…
Giving up field position on kick-offs by squibbing it for NO reason is a fireable offense….lol
IMO…
lol
We hired Vic Fangio, we’re just trying to iron out the details of his contract.
In this case, we’re not talking about $$$ (again, Steve Ross has hired him). It’s more about responsibilities, duties, and overall role.
Have we seen an official statement from the team that he was hired?
Why trust ANY media report?
Agree. I did see it on the internet…lol
I guess not but some of the reports are from pretty reputable people in the biz and they don’t usually jump the gun.
Yeah he said I can’t really throw the ball more than 10 yards. That really sucked for the kid and the 49ers.
I feel bad for Purdy… from ‘Mr. Irrelevant’ to the NFC Championship game… that’s quite the story!
These Vic Fangio deal is not done reports are annoying me. LOL
Don’t worry about it… we’re good. Fangio agreed and that’s all that matters. We’re just ironing out the details, that’s all. Trust.
Purely reputation add
Hope he’s back there next year based o. Performance
And has to miss it cause he plays the next week 😊
Report I saw today is that Fangio has said there is no deal done yet. Maybe he is waiting to see if the SF job comes open.
I won’t be comfortable until the deal is done.
For what it’s worth, Barry Jackson doubled down and ‘confirmed’ it’s a done deal AFTER the Michael Silva tweet, so I think terms have been agreed on.
But until that contract is signed anything can happen. The Colts and Josh McDaniels can attest to that.
The Niners don’t have to give Fangio huge money, they know they can promote from within. Ryans took over for Saleh without a missed step. No reason to think they can’t do that again. So we can outbid the Niners.
In the negative (for us) column, the Niners defense would be a nice defense to step into and Fangio’s girlfriend lives in the bay area.
But who knows? Maybe Fangio would rather take a defense and build it up instead of taking over a top defense with nowhere to go but down. You never know what motivates a person. Fangio moves around quite a bit. Maybe he gets bored and would rather have a project with a lot of pieces already there.
They’re still talking about the Ossai hit OB on Mahomes, making every excuse they can for him
The problem isn’t with the play itself, it’s with the preparation
When you have a brain fart, you tend to do what’s a habit, meaning his regular reaction is to put a hurt on the opponent
Something I’ve done for years is use my turn signal regularly to change lanes and at intersections when turning, so it’s a habit, never know when you’re going to get pulled over and might’ve had a beer or 2
I started doing this after hearing about a guy, that got pulled over for not signaling to change lanes…he got a DUI
I am the same. FULL stop at every stop sign too. If you just make it a habit to do things “the right way” then there is less chance you will F up.
My neighbor (next building over) runs the stop sign at the entrance to our community every time unless there is cross traffic. I have watched him do it 20 times and have had words with him about it. Yup, I am THAT asshole.
Anyway, leaving for work last Thursday there is an accident in the intersection. I slowly drove around it and rolled down my window to say “you ran the fucking stop sign again didn’t you?” and the lady he hit yells “yes he did but he is saying he didn’t”
If he made a habit of always coming to a complete stop the “I didn’t see you coming” excuse wouldn’t be needed.
I have the queasy feeling again. Fangio would NOT have told reporters that there is no deal, unless….there is no deal. I have a feeling that we are going to miss out on our #2 option while waiting on confirmation from Fangio which will not happen and then we will be stuck with Campanile.
It’s a strange situation because Tom Pelissero is not known for jumping the gun on stuff he reports. The Dolphins haven’t reported anything so they may not be waiting on Fangio or anyone. They know what the real situation is.
Hopefully this is some sort of Fangio integrity thing, and he’s refusing to publicly commit because he is still employed with the Eagles and has a game in two weeks- or something of that nature. 🤞
That’s possible. He’s not a coach but he’s a defensive consultant. I guess he’s a guy the defensive coaches can bounce things off of. Get some insight into how he would game plan for different opponents.
It’s a stretch, but this is going to be a gut punch if we don’t land him, so I’m trying to come up with something- anything, lol.
From Sports Illustrated
So. what happened about Fangio to the Dolphins being a done deal?
It could be a matter of miscommunication between Fangio and his agent in terms of a final decision; it could be that Fangio had second thoughts after agreeing to terms; or it could be that a team went back to Fangio and upped its offer or he reconsidered after a second conversation?
Regardless of the reason, Fangio coming to Miami clearly isn’t a done deal anymore, and there’s reason to believe it might not happen at all.
From Barry
https://sports.yahoo.com/dolphins-position-review-does-miami-154403971.html?src=rss
We probably have to dip into FA for OL though don’t think it will top guys. I see us drafting at least one. Add those guys to the mix and let all the guys on the roster compete. Always looking for the best 5 and then hopefully better depth.
This lady’s videos are pretty funny. The final comment “we have been holding all night” was great.
“Coach of the year was going to be Brian Daboll for having the balls to go for it on 4th down, but now it’ll be Andy Reid for having the balls to go for it on 5th down.” LMAO
Kong, the gut punch was that it was reported and apparently premature. That’s why I said it surprises me because Tom Pelissero isn’t known to do that. He works for the NFLN so that’s not something those guys like Ian Rapoport and Mike Garafolo do.
I’m used to shoddy reporting, so this doesn’t surprise me too much. I won’t care as long as we sign him. If we lose him when we thought we had him, that’ll be the gut punch for me.
I hear ya! Someone gave Pelissero that intel though.
Yeah, it might not be fair to label it shoddy reporting if terms have been agreed on but Fangio changed his mind or other, lol.
The thing that made me buy it were the terms – highest paid coordinator and at 3 years with a 4 year option. Who the hell said that?
That’s a good point, Tim. Clearly terms were agreed to unless some Dolphins rep decided to make shit up, lol.
New rumor is Broncos trading picks for Sean Payton to be HC.
Do they have any?
Yeah 1st from us for Chubb and a whatever other picks were involved.
Here is the shoe dropping
Fangio to the 49rs.
Book it.
I’ll tell you. If that happens what was the deal with that premature report of him agreeing to terms with Miami? Is that just a thing in a long lists of things fucking with this organization? I mean seriously… it never ends.
From above, he accepted the job, but hasn’t signed the contract
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He informed the Dolphins over the weekend that he has accepted the job. If he were to change his mind, it wouldn’t be the first coach to do so. When he signs, team will announce. Unclear why didn’t sign yesterday, but he would be reneging if he didn’t sign
Funniest part about the video above was her saying Nathaniel Hacket turning Russell Wilson into Zach Wilson
That’s all fine and good, who reported done deal in Miami? That’s what annoys me.
Now might be the time for Steve Ross to call Fangio and offer him more $$$.
His offer was reported to make him the highest paid coordinator in the NFL. Can’t do much better than that.
Yeah, we’re getting fucked on the Fangio front
This tweet above was retweeted by Benjamin Allbright. I know there are people here who really like him.
Note the time stamp: 5:28 PM today. We’re talking about within the last 1/2 hour.
I’m left to presume that Steve Ross (and the Broncos, too) are trying to get a deal finalized before Fangio even arrives in San Francisco.
I don’t think it’s Ross. It’s Grier and McDaniel knowing the Ross checkbook is there.
I didn’t know the Broncos had any early picks left after trading for Wilson. Is it a 2030 1st?
Could be the 2023 1st-rounder we traded for Bradley Chubb: I’ve not seen the specifics.
Wouldn’t that be a bit of irony? Steve Ross wanted Sean Payton so badly, yet we traded for Bradley Chubb… and that 1st round pick we traded to the Broncos sealed the deal. LOL
Duh- I completely forgot we gave them a 1st back (slaps palm to forehead)
oh man, the irony
Tim,
All that was reported that he had “agreed to terms”, not that he signed .
I know.
I’m not worried about Fangio, I think he’s our guy. No reason to worry until there’s a reason to worry
Can I borrow some of your aplomb?
Those were my thoughts yesterday, exactly. But the reports today sure as hell make it seem as though Fangio could be going elsewhere.
It’s just PTSD Mike
I hope we have DC candidate #2 (IMO, it should be Sean Desai) on speed dial in the event we get spurned by Fangio. And the longer this lingers, I’m afraid Desai might get signed before Fangio reaches a decision.
I hope so too
Plan B ain’t so bad
Kong – Sure bud, just call me, got plenty. lol
Cheers 🙂
CavalierKong says:
January 31, 2023 at 6:46 pm
Duh- I completely forgot we gave them a 1st back (slaps palm to forehead)
oh man, the irony
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And remember (it goes without saying) that the other 1st round pick we had for ’23 (along with a ’24 3rd rounder) was forfeited, by Steve Ross tampering with… Sean Payton (and Tom Brady).
Steve Ross SUCKS!!!
This is the ULTIMATE irony!!! We gave the Broncos the means to land the very HC Steve Ross was going after!!!
I’m sure very few people here know that. Just a way to focus on Stephen Ross again. Come on man, how many times do you have to bring that up?
The truth is the truth, my good friend. I don’t like it either, so it is what it is. BELIEVE ME, there will be reports written tomorrow about this failure.
Don’t hate the messenger!
It’s nothing new. We knew that all season. You’ve brought this up a handful of times the last month or so. We all know this. You’re not a messenger, you just keep barking the same thing that isn’t anything new.
I’m not to worried about Fangio either bc I know the ability to make a mountain out of a molehill from people who cover the Dolphins
But he’s been in the NFL a long time
If anyone can afford to agree with one team and then back out for another opportunity – it’s an old vet who doesn’t care bc he’s on his way to retirement anyway
Matter of fact, I’m going to start planning on backing out on jobs I will agree to take 20 years from now – it sounds fun!
After failing as a HC the 1st time, McDaniels stiffed the Colts in a hardcore blue-balls kind of way, and he got another HC opportunity the second he wanted one. Fangio can easily pull out of this.
That was a long innuendo filled agreement, lol.
Thy Knight (@ThyKnight3) says:
January 31, 2023 at 7:15 pm
It’s nothing new. We knew that all season. You’ve brought this up a handful of times the last month or so. We all know this. You’re not a messenger, you just keep barking the same thing that isn’t anything new.
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Such is the case regarding Steve Ross ever since he became our owner: he keeps barking up the same tree, trying to get his way. That’s insanity, and it’s hurt our beloved team in very many ways over his tenure… but never as much as the BS he pulled in tampering with Sean Payton and Tom Brady.
He’s gotta go, Bro!
There had been talk that the other 31 owners could forcibly have Steve Ross sell the team after his latest shenanigans… don’t know where that stands today or if it was just a petty threat at the time.
Geez man!!! Who’s firing him? You just keep repeating the same stuff everyone knows and your opinion on it over and over.
Don’t forget our beloved team was not in such good shape many years before Ross. 2004 is when it really came apart. No Don Shula, no Dan Marino and no Jimmy Johnson. Yes we made the playoffs under Sparano (2008), Gase (2016) and McDaniel (2022) since then. All three their rookie seasons. Go figure! A different HC every time.
I think Sean Payton is a very good HC. But let’s also realize in 14/15 years as HC of the Saints he won one SB. Just remember no HC in NFL history has every won a Super Bowl with two different teams.
I think only three now have that opportunity heading into 2023 with Payton, Pederson and McCarthy.