A lot of things have happened last year, trades bringing in top tier talent like WR Tyreek Hill, DE/OLB Bradley Chubb, a few key FA signings, notably C/OG Connor Williams and LT Terron Armstead. With less than a handful of 2023 NFL Draft picks, the front office once again entered the trade market and acquired a huge piece for our defense, CB/S/LB Jalen Ramsey. There were a few FA signings, LB David Long formerly of the Tennessee Titans, S DeShon Elliott from the Detroit Lions, LB Malik Reed from the Steelers, TE Eric Saubert from the Broncos, WR Braxton Berrios and OG Dan Feeney from the Jets and more recently, we’ve signed a couple of OT’s, former 1st RD picks Isaiah Wynn from the Patriots, and Cedric Ogbuehi from the Jets. Besides player personnel, we also signed one of the defensive minds in the NFL, DC Vic Fangio.
I can’t remember a player added via trade that had an impact like Tyreek Hill. He was better than anyone could have hoped, he completely changed the offense, the game, everything. He’s a dynamic force that even when teams employ multiple personnel to try to contain him, is still able to impact the game. On the downside, Bradley Chubb was less, much less that advertised as a Dolphins defender last season. I think that changes significantly this season with Vic Fangio. I can’t wait to see Phillips and Chubb feast with Fangio running the D. Fangio, no doubt was behind acquiring Jalen Ramsey, who will deployed at multiple positions, but the key here is we have so much depth, with S Brandon Jones returning, and the addition of S DeShon Elliott so that Fangio can move guys around without missing a beat. The NFL is set up for parity, but our depth right now both on offense and defense is the best it’s been in a very long time.
Although we didn’t have a lot of picks in this year’s draft, that doesn’t mean we didn’t add valuable players, quite the contrary. Our first pick, CB Cam Smith will have opportunities to play this season. I can’t say he will be the starter outside Game 1, but I do believe he could be before the end of the season. He was a pick both for now, and definitely for the future. CB Xavien Howard is on the decline, and while he possesses excellent ball skills, we have seen his speed, mostly recovery speed diminish. I love that we re-signed AVG, and added Malik Reed and last year’s first pick (3rd RD pick) Channing Tindall will all be key depth guys to help rush the passer. Our depth is truly impressive, with starters DE Zach Sieler, NT Raekwon Davis and DE Christian Wilkins, and then the LB crew of Jaelan Phillips, David Long, Jerome Baker and Bradley Chubb, CB’s Xavien Howard and Jalen Ramsey, along with safeties Brandon Jones and Jevon Holland. There will be a lot of mixing and matching personnel. Now keep in mind, this is just the defense I’m talking about!
Like I said, having only 4 picks doesn’t mean we didn’t bring in impact players, and I think our second pick, RB De’Von Achane may provide a ton of excitement this season. He will get touches as a return man, both punts and kicks. He will see the field as a RB, and he will be a demon as a receiver out of the backfield. With Hill, Waddle, Berrios, Anderson, Cracraft and even draft pick Elijah Higgins, you simply can’t cover ALL-THAT-SPEED. A-Chain is going to be fun to watch. Now I didn’t mention QB Mike White as one of our FA acquisitions, but let’s face it, we were ridiculously unlucky with our QB’s last season. Tua’s fragility has been well documented, but how many times did our 2nd and 3rd string QB’s get hurt, and a few times in the same game. Mike White also got knocked out of action, but he was tossed around like a rag doll by Buffalo that one game. I expect him, if needed to be better than what we had last season in Teddy Bridgewater and rookie Skylar Thompson. White was impressive when given decent protection, and he played through some tough rib injuries. We all hope Tua remains unscathed the entire season, but I believe if we need Mike White for a game or two, he can deliver.
On special teams, we have new punter, Jake Bailey formerly of the Patriots. K Jason Sanders looks to have a bounce back season. Braxton Berrios, and draftee De’Von Achane will be the return men. With the excellent depth we have on our defense, and offense, our ST’s coverage should be much better than last season with all the injuries. It’s not crazy to expect both our offense and defense to both be top units, certainly top 10 or better. When was the last time you felt this way, and had legitimate conviction about it? So, be excited Dolphins fans, really, be excited! It’s OK, I know somewhere inside there’s that Dolphins Fan Reflex that makes it difficult to get hyped, but we have a very talented team, and I think we have the right coaches to get what we need from the deep roster. GET HYPED!!!
GO DOLPHINS!!!
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Thanks for your on-going content Mike E – always a good read. I’m not getting hyped. Stopped that years ago. Too many false dawns and the seasons started to feel like a bipolar episode. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t intrigued however. No more cheese for UK yet.
We have a lot of positives – HC, speed, DC, speed, a secondary which should yield more sacks, speed, an aggressive front 7, speed, some decent backs, speed and speed.
Keys to the season. Stop dumb penalties. Run the ball a lot more. Create double ’22 level of turnovers, keep Tua on his feet. All dead obvious but if we are still doing those into December, man I will be hyped, I promise.
Thanks UK. Ah, get hyped! It’s not that painful when they let ya down, we’re hardened veterans of this by now. 😂
I think the I’m not getting hyped talk is BS, we all say it year after year, then the first PS game starts and we react as if we expected more, so we really do think this is the year🤔
nice write mike!
Thanks Boulder!
I had to look back 30 years to find a roster as good as this one. You hit the nail on the head DEPTH is everywhere. The young players in the secondary who were forced into action as well as the one we lost to injury bodes well for this upcoming season if injuries should happen again.
From last blog
Pig, I don’t agree
What I’ve mostly read/heard is the Fins look great, as long as Tua stays healthy
It’s a legitimate concern
It’s a legitimate concern
But it’s also a ln excuse to drag Tua
When he was healthy last year there were not a lot of QBs better than him
Based on his healthy performance last year – Healthy Tua is better than than QBs like Josh Allen, Herbert, Jackson, etc
What drags him below this guys is injury, not his healthy performance
I wish more people publicly talked about how good he was when healthy last year
If he’s healthy next year, we are going deep in the playoffs
Is that absurd to say?
I don’t think so
Does anyone make bold statements like that in the media?
I don’t think so
Maybe I have a chip on my shoulder
But I’ve tuned everyone out On the subject bc I think there’s just a lot of negativity surrounding the issue instead of discussions on the other side of the negative
Are any of you opposed to signing Dalvin Cook?
Do you think we will sign him?
I think we have enough weapons on the offensive side. I’d love to see the A-Chain get the touches that Cook would steal. Between Wilson and Mostert (if healthy), I think we’re fine, and hopefully, Achane gets a good amount of touches as well. No reason for him not to.
Cook would be a cancer, high salary and I’d expect his skills to deteriote this year like Zeke and Gurley
I think we sign him
Not only am I not opposed to it
I’m basically praying for it
Do we need it? – no
Will it make us better – yes!
We need every edge we can get if in the postseason
On the downside, Bradley Chubb was less, much less that advertised as a Dolphins defender last season. I think that changes significantly this season with Vic Fangio.
Chubb was actually pretty good for us, we seem to get lots of pressures, but few sacks
I think there’s a reason for that, blitzing speeds everything up for the opposing QB, he sees us setup with 7 players hovering around the LOS in 2 pt stances, and he’s thinking can’t hold the ball too long or I’ll be pounded
Counter side of that is rush 4, with good coverage, gives the rushers more time to get to the QB, that’s what we should see this year
Last year we were leaky in coverage, so QB could hit his 1st target far too often, making the passrush insignificant most of the time
LOL, that is an awesome pic of Hill
Nice write, Mike. I’m about as hyped up as can be. I’m ready to run through a brick wall myself; not that I think that would go well…but I’m ready to do it. Can’t wait for the season!
Welcome back, Markeyh. Great to see you on the board.
Thanks Kong! I’m big time hyped
And Chris Simms is a jackass. He ranked Tua where he did purely to troll us- Omar got that right.
As he does every year, it’s a tradition thing for him, or is he just giving some rebuttal for argument sake, so he has something to talk about, ala Cowherd
If Tua gets hurt, he can say ‘look I was right’, which he will relish, and if not, he knows he’s got Tua’s most avid supporters frothing at the mouth.
Because there is no flippin way if Tua stays healthy he’s the 21st ranked QB in the league.
Good assessment of our situation Mike, you have improved talent, couple of bright draftees, Fangio and close with get hyped
Let’s see, if another reason to be hyped is the young returning players, including Tua pumping up
This year will come down to Tua’s health. If he is healthy we can play with anyone. If he is not we will be competitive with Mike White but we are not going anywhere in a loaded AFC
This is why I wanted and still want more OL
No
If he’s healthy we will beat most of the nfl
We are ready to contend , his health is the only concern for me
That is essentially what I said
I’m just busting pork chops and trying to emphasize what I believe
That things are different and we are on the cusp
You can say the same for every NFL contender. Take away their starting QB and they’re done. We’re no different
Very true. Our concern may be a little bit more acute because of injury history but in theory you are correct
Yes, Tua has had a difficult time staying on the field which makes us more questionable than other contenders
Seems like there’s always something missing with the Tua health discussions or maybe people just assume
We all know we aren’t going anywhere without Tua, but even if he’s hurt this year, as long as we make the playoffs and he’s available, other than for seeding, it doesn’t really matter
We are a good team now
There are some things we can’t control like health
But our roster is solid
This is why I can’t fathom being opposed to being in Dalvin Cook if he’s waived in 6/1
A lot of games are won on a few plays
Some on a few yards
Between good teams – that is sometimes the difference
We aren’t building anymore
We are there
Every little edge makes a difference
A signing like that might have a huge impact if he just makes one cut that turns into one big play
I don’t think you miss that opportunity
I think Achane or Mostert can also make that one cut and go the distance, for Cook to be more valuable, than what we have, he’d have to be a grinder with big play ability, that keeps the D honest, which he’s done, but he’s at that fork age
DeAndre Hopkins released
FU AZ
The Buffalo Bills, Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots had been among the teams reportedly interested in pursuing Hopkins.
That was expected
Hopefully some darkhotse with a lot of money to spend in the nfc makes a play
Yeah, like AZ🤪
The reason I want Cook is because the jest got A-arod.
And what if an AFCE team gets Nuke.
I love the Achane draft, but he’s a rookie and tiny. Untested on the NFL level. I hope and think he’ll do well, but I KNOW Dalvin is a legit top 5 star RB in this league.
We have a top 5 CB room, a top 5 WR room, and a top 10 DL a pro bowl punter, pro bowl kicker, and pro bowl PR guy.
If we get Cook, we’ll have a top 5 RB room.
We’ll need to outscore Cincy and KC.
Well need to counter Lamar Jackson and Rodgers and Trevor Lawrence with buckets of points.
I agree with Piggy.
I watched Dalvin Cook beat us at the Fest last year with one big run.
They don’t play at that level for long, will he be the same this year?
Thank you, Mike E.!
I can only be cautiously optimistic…lol. It’s a long season.
Great write up MikeE! Though I would not add Cracraft in the group when you said “you simply can’t cover ALL-THAT-SPEED”. He ran a 4.62 then a 4.57 at his pro day. That was the reason he was an UDFA.
What keeps him around is he is a very smart player, very good route runner with quickness in his breaks and a good blocking WR.
But yeah, there isn’t another team with as much speed we have on offense.
I like Dalvin Cook but we don’t need him compete this year. He’d be a luxury.
Mike, X was playing with multiple groin injuries last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had big season. I’m not sold he’s on the decline. The same with Ramsey as some have said.
I know he’s been hurt, but I think that’s the new X at this point. We’ll see. I’d love you to be right and all of a sudden he’s playing like he was 3 years ago
X looked really good in the playoff game in Buffalo. Best he looked all year. I am hoping that is what we see
X was healthy the previous 2 season. Yet everyone seems to have this perception he’s always hurt. I guess we’ll see. I’m excited for our secondary and our entire defense.
X has had his share of injuries in his career, including last year, he isn’t close to losing a step
Also Ramsey will light a fire under his ass, because he wants to be the best CB on the team
The competition between them will make them better and it will be a great influence on the young DBs. Cam Smith is in a perfect situation.
Dalvin Cook will be expensive and has a history of shoulder injuries which is not good for an RB. He is an excellent player but I don’t think he makes us substantially better. Mostert and Achane are both faster and as explosive and Wilson is probably a better inside runner. I just don’t think Cook changes anything and I am afraid if we get him that means reducing the reps for our other weapons
I’m leaning that way too. We don’t need him. I’d probably be more interested if we didn’t draft Achane.
Wilson is not a better inside runner, but I’m with you on everything else
The window for the bang for the buck is pretty small
Great Write-up, Mike E.
Hey we also signed Tyler Kroft at TE who is a ferocious blocker who knows the Shanahan offense.
We’ve done so much good personnel work that it’s hard to keep track of them all.
Right on! Totally forgot about Kroft – Thanks!
We had a very productive offseason.
We only need Dalvin to be top drawer for 2 years.
I think we can afford that, and it would add years to the other RBs, too.
Any takers😁
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What positions do you think we target in June after cuts and more cap relief?
NT?
We could use more depth there. Maybe another vet OL for competition as well.
Naples – if it was one of those deals where Cook really wants to come here and will take less to play here, I think you do it. We don’t need to overpay for him
Does he want a certain number or does he want a chance to win? I doubt he gets the kind of money he’s reportedly seeking.
I haven’t looked into it Tim, no idea what he wants. I’m just outlining the circumstances where he could end up here
I think he’s looking for 10-12M per year.
Tim – if that’s what Cook wants he most certainly will not be playing for us
He might not be released according to some sources
https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/dalvin-cook-2nd-thoughts-leaving-vikings/
I thought it already happened?
Great Write Mike E !! I’m effing pumped for this season. Hell I’m springing a pink pencil right now 🐕
LOL – awesome!!
Nap time. BBL when I get to work.
I expect quite a few BUI’s this long weekend. Usually see about 10 a day booked in to both jails on weekends like this.
Ogbah Davis Wilkins
Chub Baker Long Phillps
Ramsey Howard
Holland Elliot
Shawing!
That doesn’t even include the likes of
Sielter Van Ginkel Tindell Kohou Jones Needham Crossen and the immortal Igbinoghene….
Sieler
Smith too.
I forget about him and he’s not shown on the roster on ESPN. Maybe hasn’t signed? Huh.
I went to all the trouble to space them out behind each other and WordPress took out all the spaces ;_-(
———————-Ogbah———— Davis————– Wilkins
————Chub ————–Baker————– Long —————Phillps
—Ramsey ————————————————————————Howard
——————Holland ————————————-Elliot
Loss of four
Great Read Mike E!
Thanks dude!
Thanks Rock
You got me wanting to play Madden
but they had two updates in the last 2 weeks and the dolphins are unplayable again. SMH MFRS
Brandon Jones > Elliot
You forgot 29
We’re deep in the middle of the field from to back
Never mind you did mention him above but I think he’s ahead of Elliot
Yeah Sonny, I got Brandon Jones. He’s ahead of DeShon as long as he’s healthy
THAT above is the OPENING DEFENSIVE grouping at the Fest. BEER?
Tim Knight says:
May 25, 2023 at 10:55 pm
Actually it all started during Bill Clinton’s presidency…
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I was speculating on the exuberant tension between the left and right of today (Obama vs Trump), but I think you are absolutely correct in terms of when the match was lit… the Clinton administration.
Very good point, and for the reasons you stated.
Just to clarify, Newt Gingrich and the conservatives/republicans were just as guilty in starting the divide as the liberals/democrats. It wasn’t as bad as it is now but as you put it, that’s when the match was lit. Obviously both sides have disagreed for longer than that, but there was more civility and compromise. Now they don’t even talk to each other in a civil manner.
Question: what is the weakest point right now on our team?
If one is only as strong as their weakest link…
I would say either Tackle or DT.
Give me Brandon Shell and Shelby Harris, come June 1st.
And if we’re still on to trade for Dalvin Cook, send them Cedrick Wilson in the deal.
OFFENSIVE LINE…LMAO!
I’m with ya, man! I don’t want to take ANY chances on that unit as is. Get me Brandon Shell.
we have like 4 former first round picks competing for two Tackle spots. Hopefully health and competition brings out what made them first round picks and we wind up with a flip of worst to best like Dallas did over one season years ago.
That would be GREAT! However, I’d still bring in Brandon Shell… just in case.
Friendly reminder: there are 64 starting Tackles in the NFL… Left and Right.
Brandon Shell ranked as the #13 rated run-blocking Tackle last season, per PFF. We paid him just north of a mere $1M last season, with a cap hit of a mere $597K.
Ya bring him back! God forbid Tua goes down again or Austin Jackson doesn’t pan out… at least we can run the ball down the opposing Defense’s throat with Shell in there at RT.
I feel like tackles are sometimes like relief pitchers in MLB. Shell had a good year last year, but what was his rating the previous season? I’ve also said to bring back Shell, but if they don’t, maybe it’s because they like the guys they just picked up.
Shell had a condition that caused him to produce an enormous amount of gas it became difficult in the locker room and quite obnoxious as well. On a bad day there would be sharting as well.
As to whether or not he comes back – Depends
LOL
Ingold carried the ball 6 times last year and got 5 first downs and a TD.
That’s some serious production.
And Smythe carried twice for a first down and a touchdown.
So I’d say we got that thing covered.
stats from ESPN
We only got 8 interceptions last year.
That to me is one of the key reasons that Boyer had to go,
although I know that we had massive injuries to our DBs.
Kohou had 63 SOLO tackles last year.
Out where he plays, those are game savers!!
A lot of his tackles were near the LOS in run support or short passes
awesome !!!
I remember how in some years past …
those would’ve gone for 6, 8, 12 yards
and kept drives alive against our defense.
OK 😄
Carful Doggie they will get Democrat Senator Cavanaugh after you!
Achane stood out in OTAs (touch or flag football) as you’d hope/expect, because of his size, quickness and speed
How does MM turn his touches into flag football?
Run plays with lots of time on the play clock, in space, passes within 2.5 seconds of snap
Quick passes, Tua’s specialty, so that fits, getting the play off quickly not so much
Forget all the motion stuff, so Tua can get a presnap read, just go
Achane and Berrios should add a new dimension to the offense. They’re both slippery and fast. To add depth with that kind of speed puts a lot of pressure on a defense throughout the game.
I want those 2 used on 3rd downs short, instead of what we did last year dropping Hill and Waddle short
Don’t attract a crowd let Waddle and Hill go 15+ yards deep, leaving the underneath stuff open
That might be the plan. Tua showed he’s not afraid to go for big chunks on 3rd down but if it’s not there just get the 1st down.
I will be happy if Hill and Waddle are not the only way we can move the ball.
They got beat up last year, as soon as DCs figured that out,
and during that second losing string,
we had trouble finding someone else to get yards.
Last year Hill averaged 10 targets per game and Waddle 7.
Next were Gesicki and Sherfield with 3 each.
With the run game also not pitching in much,
that’s a lot of pressure to use a lot of moves and show a lot of routes,
so, late in the season, there was not much mystery left.
That’s also a lot of hits absorbed by just two (small) guys.
I agree
If we see Hill and Waddle setting yardage and reception records, it may not be a good thing
IMHO
MM’s job #1A is scheming new stuff,
now that there’s book on what he does and what Hill likes to do within that playbook.
Job #1B is preplanning running plays that he’ll feel comfortable calling in the heat of the moment that’ll get chunks or at least keep the pass rush honest so they can’t pin their ears back and leave nothing back to set the edge. (These can include screen passes etc to the RBs)
also IMHO
Job #2 btw to me is cutting the crap, such as pre snap OL flags and getting the plays in late and getting too cute such that the play locks up due to its own complexity.
All of which is related and all on the HC/play caller/playbook designer to distill out.
What does the OC in our system do for example?
Maybe offload some tasks to him that MM can trust him with,
so MM doesn’t have to do everything 24/7.
Is pre-planning like a double negative, so on the fly😁
off topic for a minute
sorry
I’ve never been to a drag queen show.
Are they fun?
What happens at one of those?
Are they a music show? a comedy show?
They can’t be a beauty pageant or strip club show,
because there are no women.
I don’t really understand it.
Men dressed as divas. Think Ru Paul.
It’s really a lot of fun, if you go there with an open mind
My gay brother and 2 of his gay friends and I went a few years back, my brothers friend form Wisconsin was the MC
Used to go gambling with them every Friday, this was one of those nights
I went with my wife and another couple years ago in Key West. It’s entertaining like Steve said with an open mind. I’m not “offended” by different lifestyles.
Last year our RBs ran the ball 329 times in 17 games.
That’s 19 per game.
We threw the ball 33 times per game.
That’s about 63% pass and 37% rush.
So almost 2:1 pass to rush.
This does not include about 2 QB scrambles per game, and
the FB ran the ball about once every 3 games, so n/m that..
What should the split be this year?
I’d like to see the RBs average 24-25 times per game. Then you add some of the QB runs and jet sweeps etc. We’re going to throw the ball a lot. Most teams do.
In 2022 Gesicki had 52 targets and Sherfield had 51.
Those are available for Berrios and Chosen (or whomever).
MM admitted he didn’t run the ball enough. I don’t think we need a lot of new schemes. We need to execute better and be more balanced.
What about the Achane package?
I’d think MM would want to also have specialized stuff for Berrios and Chosen
I was saying not a lot. What could be so different? To me other than being a RB Achane could lineup as a WR, go in motion quick strike routes, jet sweeps. The same with Berrios other than being a RB. I think Welker will have a big impact on them with the finer points of playing in the slot. I do think Achane will be used as a WR at times.
Our TEs might get some easy catches due to all our speed. Opponents can’t play a lot of man against us.
Wondering why Achane ran track, if he couldn’t keep the weight on
You’d think, at least his 2022 season, he’d do whatever to increase his draft stock, but whatever, if he had we wouldn’t have gotten him in 3rd😁
Maybe he loved running track and knew once he was in the NFL those days would be over.
Sure, but at what cost?
What’s done is done.
Does anyone agree with this?
Balancing America’s budget is an “equation” with two components, Linda Bilmes, a senior lecturer at Harvard Kennedy School who focuses on budgetary and public finance issues, told Fortune. “There’s a revenue side and a spending side…You cannot balance the budget or get anywhere close to it by cutting spending without raising revenues. The equation just does not work.”
New math. Pretty sure that if you cut spending below your revenue you have a surplus which can then be applied to you debt until your budget is balanced. At least that’s how my household and business budgets work.
Nut I didn’t attend Harvard or lecture there, so there is that…
You also can’t get out of debt by borrowing more.
Cutting spending is where it starts. Of course increased revenue is a positive. The government doesn’t behave like a household though.
Increased revenue = more taxes. This is a positive?
No a household making more money gets you out of debt if you stop spending. The government doesn’t behave like that. They don’t create wealth, they just spend what they tax.
I’m with you, Naples. MM needs to improve big-time, as well. I give him pass as a first-year head coach. The training wheels are off now.
Hopefully, he’s developed some “shorthand” and found some assistants to offload tasks or be another set of eyes.
He made the playoffs losing his starting QB and even #2. I’m not concerned about MM at all.
steveccnv says:
May 27, 2023 at 3:44 pm
Does anyone agree with this?
Balancing America’s budget is an “equation” with two components, Linda Bilmes, a senior lecturer at Harvard Kennedy School who focuses on budgetary and public finance issues, told Fortune. “There’s a revenue side and a spending side…You cannot balance the budget or get anywhere close to it by cutting spending without raising revenues. The equation just does not work.”
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IMO, she doesn’t know what she’s talking about. I agree with Phelon and Tim above.
This all goes back to a political argument: how did we get out of The Great Depression?
Liberals will say we spent our way out, conservatives will say WWII got us out of it. I happen to agree with the latter, being ya DON’T put yourself in more debt when ya can’t even pay your overdue bills, right?!
I think that at the rate we’re spending (like a drunken sailor), we’re either hoping for WWIII to bail us out, or for The Great Reset to bail us out.
Either option will be an unmitigated disaster for all of humanity, and that’s the truth of it.
IMO, it’s time to end the Federal Reserve, get back on the gold standard (or an equivalent), and end wars.
IMO, we’re being ‘slow-walked’ into a global society, a global currency, and a global dictatorship… but what do I know.
The problem is, it’s dangerous, and they know it, but they’re trying to sell it as a way to continue spending
Raises taxes is stealing from one group to give to another
Here’s another way they’re pushing shit on people, and this one us dangerous as it gets for the victims in general
(like a drunken sailor)
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Hey, I resemble that remark. 🙂
M13, you’re a Star Wars guy. Global comes before the new frontier. People don’t like change but you can’t stop it.
Think about if a more advanced species exists and can get to earth. Is it a nation of their planet like the USA, Russia or China, or are they a united species? Humans are considered to be about 200k years old. We were still horse and buggy and no aeronautics a little over a 100 years ago. Very primitive. What if that other species has had a similar path as us but they’ve been around 300k more years than us with technology thriving. We can’t even comprehend the science. They don’t have racial and cultural issues anymore, they’ve gotten past that. They’re now interstellar.