There are differing opinions on the current state of the Miami Dolphins roster as we head into the 2024 NFL Draft, just a couple of days more than a month away. I try to listen and read and absorb various sources. Some of them “homer” sources, others what might be considered “haters” and then others that are from outside either of the former two, totally neutral opinions. In general, the most common feeling is that the quality of the roster has gone down, the talent. Chris Perkins from the Sun Sentinel was on the Joe Rose Show this morning and Perkins feels the Dolphins have assembled a tougher roster. Elaborating on this, he feels the addition of Aaron (Ay-run) Brewer was a welcome one, and that he will bring toughness to the interior offensive line. I believe toughness is a tangible issue for our team, as we always seemed to get pushed around and beaten down by certain teams, namely the Bills, Ravens and Chiefs. In a discussion last night with a fellow Dolphins fan on twitter, or “X” if you prefer, I was called a “hater”. The discussion began after I responded to a tweet regarding our current WR’s corp, and how we could really use OBJ. I responded by listing KC’s WR depth chart from last year as an example of how ridiculous that statement is. Having 3 great WR’s doesn’t get you a championship. You have to win in the trenches.
So this brings me to the newest Miami Dolphins headline. Odell Beckham Jr. visited the Miami Dolphins facility yesterday, was given the red carpet treatment by the organization, was given a tour by none other than everyone’s favorite HC Mike McDaniel, showed him the lush grass playing field, as well as the lush grass practice facility. “Those grass fields would be nice for those 31 year old knees, eh?” Here’s the deal, if we can get OBJ for say $5-7M for a one year or even two year deal, go ahead and bring him in. Just realize that he got paid FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS last season, so MM is going to have throw quite the sales pitch to get OBJ here in Miami for the contract I would prefer. Now realistically, I don’t work for the Dolphins so it doesn’t matter, but what NFL team has the highest or near the highest cap allocation at WR, and has won the Super Bowl? Don’t bother looking, you ain’t gonna find it.
I can see the merit in bringing in Odell Beckham Jr. Last season, when either Tyreek Hill or Jaylen Waddle went out, the offense definitely missed them and we struggled. If you bring in OBJ, he could theoretically replace either Hill or Waddle on the outside for a while, although to be fair, OBJ has played a full season only twice in his 10 year career. At 31, don’t expect that to improve, so therefore if we sign him, we have to do so at a reasonable price. I would also like to see third year WR Erik Ezukanma get an opportunity. He looked good early on, he got touches in the run game and short passing and screen game, and showed the ability to get run after catch yardage. We brought in TE Jonnu Smith to help with that, having another outlet couldn’t hurt. Our offense is predicated on quick throws and with guys that can get yardage after the catch when Hill and Waddle are covered, they can be a QB’s best friend. We also re-signed Braxton Berrios, so the WR room is getting a bit crowded already, without adding OBJ.
This brings me to my next point. I discussed toughness at the start here, and while I’m not enamored with any of the guys we brought in for the defensive line, maybe toughness was more of a factor than actual talent. Sieler is back at LDE or DT, whichever way you want to label it, and now Benito Jones will be at the NT spot. I always felt Raekwon Davis 6’7 325 was miscast as a NT, so maybe the shorter, more stout Jones at 6’1 335 is a better fit there. At the moment, and unofficially, Da’Shawn Hand may play RDE, the spot previously occupied by Christian Wilkins. This is the spot I believe we draft first in the upcoming draft. I know we need another OL, and you can make an argument for the interior or tackle spots and not be wrong either way, but to me the most glaring spot is RDE. We lost Wilkins and now must replace him with a legitimate threat and a talented player. Byron Murphy would be my 1st RD pick if he’s there. There are a couple of guys that may be there with our 2nd pick, assuming we don’t move up or back with our 1st. Jer’Zhan Newton, Braden Fiske and Ruke Orhorhoro could be 2nd RD options. There are some that think WR will be one of our top picks, that would shock me. Build up those trenches, you know, where we tend to lose against most teams. We’ve already potentially taken a step back there already, so I go either 1) DT and 2) OL, or vice versa.
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One thing all haters 😛 have in common is they don’t have a good idea of how to fix the issue, just harp on change
I do have an answer. I play Tua on his 5th year contract. He gets us to the playoffs, wins a playoff game or two and take us to an AFC Championship game, I give him his contract. If he goes backwards or gets injured, you have to make a decision whether you want to commit to him, or look for a new QB in the draft.
Upside – When is he going to reach his upside, when he’s 40? Not being a dick, I doubt he has a season as good as he had last year the rest of his career.
well he’s 26 so he’s got time
I don’t think he has to do a lot differently – except for making big plays in big games. I think that’s the only thing haunting him now
It’s a big haunt
but it’s not quite the same as “Tua needs to get better”
bc he doesn’t need to be better most of the time
He’s improved on issues every year, that they’ve asked him to
You could say last year just staying healthy didn’t help him or the team, but that’s what they asked
We’ve seen other teams like Baltimore and Buffalo ask their QBs do the same and they’ve fallen off in some ways as a result
In some ways you remind me of Veruca Salt
Steve – I don’t want an oompa loompa now daddy. If there was no salary cap, we could pay Tua $300M, as long as when we realize he’s not the one, Ross would draft a new QB. I don’t want to be tied to a QB that’s not good enough for 5 years or more. It crushes the team if the QB can’t deliver for a 5-6 year period, and you’re paying him more than the best QB’s in the league.
See Denver’s dead cap hit on Russell Wilson at 53 million in 2024 and 32 million in 2026.
The NY Giants are another recent example of giving a big contract to a QB they wish they could take back
I love Durham Smythe,
but he’s not a #1 TE in this league.
Jonnu is.
SF KC Buff Balt all have that TE like we needed.
Our 2nd best TE was a UDFA small college rookie
who couldn’t’ve made the 53 on most teams.
That’s why we got Jannu. Though, Jannu is not a true #1 either as he lacks in blocking.
Together, Jannu and Smythe make a good combo to have.
I think the UDFA Jullian Hill makes a big jump this year. For him to beat out 2 other vet TE’s to be our #2 TE was telling for me. He showed some promise last year. Especially going from Campbell University to the NFL.
I think we’re gonna love the Weaver D.
Poyer is an upgrade, Fuller is an upgrade, Barrett is a a pro bowler,
and those 2 new LBs will be enforcers in the middle.
Our D is better except at DT, so we draft one in round 1 or 2 BPA.
I don’t see a declining Poyer as an upgrade over Brandon Jones or Deshon Elliott.
Fuller is a stud and an upgrade over the declining X.
ILB will be a wait and see.
DL, gaining Benito Jones and losing Davis is a wash. Hurting at LDT-3/4LDE. OLB, Barrett will be nice but that is only one side.
steveccnv
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March 27, 2024 at 10:35 am
It’s an avg yard per return stat, so a long return or 2 can skew the stat with only 15 returns
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UMM, no. We were the worst by far.
Per “The Football Database”, of the Dolphins kickoffs returned (one for a TD), they gave up an average of 32 yards a return.
Of the 3 other teams who gave up a return for a TD, their average return against them was 25.2 yards, 22.3 yards and 21.5 yards.
Jax only had 14 kicks returned with one for a TD and still only gave up an average of 25.2 yards.
A long return, especially 2 is way too many for having to stop just 15 returns. Green Bay had 40 kicks returned and only gave up 23.7 yards average and no TD’s.
We also had a punt returned for a TD on us. HELLO! League wide, 25 of 32 teams had ZERO kicks or punts returned for a TD. Dolphins had TWO!
OH, and we had TWO field goals blocked. The only team with more than 1.
SKEW it however YOU want, our kick/punt coverage units fucking sucked!
That wasn’t my point, I agree it sucked
BBMike – Glad you jumped in on Poyer. I agree 100% I’m holding my tongue because everyone thinks I’m just being “Dark Mike”. lol
lol
They either have it or they don’t. Everything else can be improved on.
The rest of our FA contracts have finally hit per Spotrac. Our current cap is at $4,582,626. Our draft picks should only take another 2 million off that as our top 51 cutoff is at 985K right now. Only our top 2 picks will affect the top 51 cap. Last players signed:
Braxton Berrios, 2.13 million
Jordan Poyer, 1.98 million
Siran Neal, 1.95 million
Robert Jones, 1.79 million
Bentito Jones, 1.79 million
Jack Driscoll, 1.79 million
Jonathan Harris, 1.79 million
Isaiah Wynn, 1.58 million
River Cracraft, 1.10 million
Jody Fortson, 1.02 million
That cap number is with 65 players under contract, 25 more to sign. About 18 of those roster spots will be draft picks and UDFA.
Oh, and thank God, no more money pushed down the road. For now.
Some of these lesser FA will also be locks for the 53 man roster as they got a bunch of guaranteed money. Surprisingly Neville Gallimore who’s 1.79 million contract is 100% guaranteed.
You guys make me laugh (at you not with you) you really are delusional. Fuller is an upgrade over “a declining” X? as if he is younger than X?
They were both drafted in ’16. and X is a year older. Fuller has never in his career been as good as X.
Fuller in his career has 16 Ints and 75 passes defensed
X has in his career has 29 Ints and 95 PD’s
Fuller is NOT an upgrade over X and is JUST AS “Declining” as X supposedly is.
you want to talk about declining players? POYER is an old man 12 year vet that has obviously declined. Also NOT and upgrade over the young ascending player that we let walk.
Put down that koolaid. it’s poison.
I understand where you are coming from on Fuller. It’s just the last 2 years X has not been the X we got accustomed to. Just 1 INT each of the last 2 years. The groin issues in 2022 then missing 5 games last year.
and we are in agreement on Poyer
This new kickoff alignment is going to be strange. But I guess it’s better than most of the kicks going for touchbacks.
Will be interesting with Achane and/or Mostert back there returning.
And Barrett may be a nice mid level filler, but he is past his prime too and on the decline. He only made the probowl twice in 9 years on had half of his 59 sacks in 2 years. The rest of his other 7 years he averaged 4.2 sacks. Again, a rotation guy, but he is NOT an F’n “stud”
Didn’t call him a stud but nice to have until we get our other guys back. Then also, we have no one on the other side opposite of Barrett. Our pash rush looks real fugly right now.
another buddy from the Fest called him a stud up the page.
Holding out hope Phillips is back week 1
Barrett of course is nothing like the player that rocked Mahomes in the SB, but he doesn’t have to be, once Phillips and Chubb are back he’ll be a situational pass rusher
Chase Armstrong was pretty good at it late in his career, don’t expect Barrett to be that, but he could be a 5-9 sack guy, which would be great
His value will come as an early season starter
Los Vegas is much more bullish on the Dolphins than I am. I am ABSOLUTELY downloading the HardRock app and putting money on the under at 10.5 -145
NFC West, GB and AFC South, not really any dynamos outside SF
No Balt, no Cinn and no KC
I agree 10.5 is too high
I like this trade
https://www.thephinsider.com/2024/3/27/24113417/miami-dolphins-draft-2024-rumors-trade-possibities-green-bay-packers-first-round-21st-overall
Would rather get a 3rd this year
Yeah we don’t need the 3rd round in 2025, we’ll likely have two of them already. Why make the trade beneficial for the Packers, make them sweeten that offer this year.
First of all PFF, why would we settle for a 2025 3rd and a very, very late 5th when GB has 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.
Screw that! I want #41!! Though #58 is probably more realistic. Worst case #88 or #91 and #169.
We could take the best DT at #25, best OL at #55 and best safety at #58 or 88/91.
I may have missed it. I have been buried at work and haven’t been reading much, and frankly there is only so much Debbie downer I can stand, even from myself.
How do you guys feel about the new kickoff rules? I think I am for them, but do not watch XFL so I am not really that familiar with it. IMO the change has to make the game more exciting because who wants to watch a touch back every kick?
I DO NOT like the ball being placed at the 35, fuck might as well kick it out of bounds! I do like that if the ball ROLLS into the endzone it comes out to the 20 and not the 35. With the speed we have I think this rule change can be an advantage for the Dolphins with Tyreek, Achane, Mostert, et. al. back there. What do you guys think?
I watched a lot of the XFL is an improvement over the current NFL rules but not as good as it was back in the day. The whole return comes down to if you can create a seam in those between the 20 and 30 and it is pretty hard to do. But it beats just kicking the ball in the end zone every time
The way the kickoffs have been recently they should have just put the ball on the 25 and be done with it. How many of us go get a beer or whatever during kickoffs. Rarely did we miss anything.
it’s good for us, if we let Tyreek, Waddle and Achane return kicks
I read touchbacks come out to the 35 too, but read an article today that said it goes to the 30, so I looked it up and the new rule says 30
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steveccnv
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March 27, 2024 at 3:59 pm
That wasn’t my point, I agree it sucked
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I realized your point after I posted that. lol
If a team wanted to trade back into the 1st round for a prospect they’re really high on would you accept a 2nd, 3rd and 4th for our #21?
I don’t think there’s a chance we get that kind of return, but if somehow that would be available, I might do it.
Well a team wanting an additional 1st round pick doesn’t get to keep all their picks. They’re going quality over quantity. Our #21 is worth 800 points and a 2nd, 3rd and 4th in that range falls short of 800. It’s not really a big haul based on value charts.
Yes, if the picks are early to mid picks each round
Yes that would be preferable.
No – not enough for my taste to trade out of first
trading out of the first isn’t ideal
Even really high 2nds, and 3rds don’t get me there
there are a lot of good prospects from 20-60
I can’t say some of the 2nd rounders aren’t going to be better
but it’s a lot less likely you get some one to fill in holes later in the draft
a better trade down scenario is trading down but staying in the 1st and picking up a 2nd or 3rd but keeping a foest rounder
bc the 4th rounder doesn’t really mean too much
you can package together your other day 3 picks to fet
into the 4th round
it’s easier and cheaper to move around on day 3 of the draft
so you can acquire a 4th
and now what are you left with in your scenario
A second and a third
well if you don’t make that move and trad down but stay in the first round, you are going to have a late first rounder and either a 2nd or a 3rd anyway (depending on how far you move down)
So trading out of the first for a 4th rounder without giving up your other day 3 picks doesn’t really have much value to me
your should get multiple day 2 coke to trad route of the 1st into the 2nd round
pick 21 is 800 pts, same as the combined rd 2 pick 3 + rd 3 pick 4
or
about the 28th + rd 3s 28th
We aren’t getting much more than that
It was a no brainer to let Wilkins and Hunt leave. The overall roster is better for it. But it’s still nice to hear McDaniel address the decision for what it was: child’s play.
This is what I’ve been saying, if we had kept both we’d have holes all over the roster
Finally some common sense
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Piggy, I’m not sold on trading out of the 1st just thinking of it as an option. Every year we see prospects in other rounds outplay 1st round picks. I think more picks might help us more this year and for cap reasons.
Cap hits for our top2 picks
$2,671,053
$1,244,245
If we trade 21 for 28th pick in 1st and 3rd rds it would count towards the cap
$2,461,228 for 28 and less than 1m for 3rd rider
Let’s trade down to save .5m🤔
Steve – I agree, you have no brains if you think we’re better off without Wilkins and Hunt. 🤣
Its gotta be worded correctly, sheesh
Nothing else to say about Tua getting re-signed before the season starts, except, if they agree on terms it will happen, they’re trying to work it out
They should wait another year blah, blah blah
The overall roster will be better if we don’t give Tua a big contract. I can use the same reasoning.
Except it makes no sense
if we give Tua a new contract it will lower his cap hit, allowing us to sign more FAs
We don’t need space now. We need space the next 5 years. This year we’re going backwards. We need to be smart for the future
We can’t really sign any impact free agents with the $10M or so we save this season by extending Tua. At this point we’re better off just letting him play on his 5th year
How does that make the roster better?
That’s what I’m saying. The time to use Tua savings are over. If we don’t re-sign Tua we’ll have plenty of money to spend next year and the year after and so on
LOVE to see and hear this! Mr. Campbell, I KNOW you’ll agree!
Quite OBVIOUSLY, this doesn’t mean one has to draft an O-Lineman in the 1st round every single year until one gets all 5 positions right. What this means is that the O-Line makes the running-game go AND the passing-game go.
I’ve been preaching this concept for damn near 2 decades now… at least Jim Harbaugh understands (and well before me, of course).
Our Phins mentioned in this video of KSU Guard Cooper Beebe…
I’m not there quite yet for an official mock draft, but on it’s head…
— If Jer’Zhan “Johnny” Newton can replace Christian Wilkins at the DT position (and THEN some with his pass-rushing prowess)…
— If Cooper Beebe can replace Robert Hunt at the RG position…
I’d say we’re moving in the right direction. JMO
And remember… Cooper Beebe has experience playing both LT and RT… though it may not be ideal for him at the NFL level with his shorter arms.
I wonder what Coach McDaniel thinks of fellow Yale-mate Kiran Amegadjie, T, 6’5″, 318?
Amegadjie could be a sleeper pick for us in the 2nd round… excellent in the ZBS. 1 sack given up in his entire collegiate career (1,588 snaps). He can also play LG.
Steve,
Amegadjie might be that guy who can be groomed to take over for T-Stead. Plus, he might be able to play LG for us in the meantime.
He’s strong enough to control the Ivy League, what about speed rushers?
Steve, I said trade out of the 1st round not to #28. The 1st round comes with more cap and a 5th year option. We might need a little break in that department this year.
Miniscule cap savings either way, that extra cap savings would be a small benefit of trading down, not a reason to trade down
Mike, who’s our QB after Tua? If you are sub par at that position you don’t win many games. This draft class as far as QBs is already being overrated from what I read and hear. They’re just the next crop. Nobody is sold on any of them. Even Caleb Williams is being questioned.
I remember Malik Willis being overhyped a couple of years ago. He’s an afterthought now in Tennessee. There is more to playing QB than being able to run and throw the ball however far. That’s not what makes a good NFL QB.
Who’s our next QB after Tua? Well… ya know… we’ll either draft some guy or overpay for a FA QB… like we’ve done ever since Marino retired… easy peezy… LOL 😉
Oh yeah… or maybe we’ll trade a 2nd rounder and some change for an overhyped QB… we’ve been known to do that as well. LOL 😉
No patience ever! The grass is always greener regardless of whether it is or not.
EXACTLY, Tim.
I recall EVERYBODY on Phins Twitter saying that Ryan Tannehill was going to be the SHIT! Welp… he wasn’t, in all honesty. He could never throw his receivers open (wrote a piece about it, wasn’t received very well, even though time has proven me correct) and he got injured often behind our lack of O-Linemen.
What are we going to do… just draft another QB in the top-10 to find out he isn’t ‘the one’?
For crying out loud, we currently have in Tua the ’22 passer rating champ and the ’23 passing yardage champ!
Yeah… let’s ditch him for more of that Tannehill stuff… or Cleo Lemon stuff… or Brock Osweiler stuff… or that Jay Cutler stuff… or that Joey Harrington stuff… or that AJ Feeley stuff… or that Daunte Culpepper stuff… or that mesmorizing Ray Lucas stuff.
steveccnv says:
March 27, 2024 at 10:16 pm
He’s strong enough to control the Ivy League, what about speed rushers?
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VALID QUESTION, my friend. To which, I have not an answer. I’m not advocating we draft him, but I’d like to think he’s on our radar… where our draft brass has more access than the rest of us.
M13
I think Amegadjie is goi g to be quite a steal for some one. He may end up in the 3rd round simply bc he okayed in the Ivy League
I suspect MM has his eye on him
wow Poyer knows stuff Brandon Jones might never know
except how to injure 2 of our own players. Poyer is one of the reasons we lost to the Bills.
And what did Elliott do? I was VERY disappointed in him and so It seems were the coaches working with him here and previous to Miami. Never a hint of resigning him.
Fuller was on a wining SB team. That might help us get a PO win. X didnt.
X got toasted multiple times.
X was injured most of last 2 years, he wasn’t himself for a while, not sure he ever gets back to great X
Tim – I don’t know who’s available in next year’s draft, but there’s always QB’s. You need to find the right one. We’ll find out this season whether Tua is the right one. He led the league in passing yards, and you guys cream your pants. Big fucking deal! What did that get us as a team? You mock Ryan Tannehill all the time, he threw for 4208 yards with Jarvis Landry, Rishard Matthews, Kenny Stills etc. Calm yourselves down for a second. It’s crazy, but you want to reward Tua the same we did Tannehill. How did that work out? Just remember, Grier went all in, gave Tua everything he could, 2 top receivers, some very expensive defenders we traded lots of draft capital for and are now paying extravagant sums of money. Imagine if Tua played well against winning teams how many passing yards he might have had. He didn’t though, he came up small all the time, and now you guys want to reward him on some soft passing yardage. Go ahead, you’ll be sorry!
Tannehill was never a top QB for the draft or at any time afterwards, he made the AFC Championship game on the coattails of his RB
One QB we had didn’t succeed after 4 years therefore none will
No one is creaming your pants, because of any stats, Tua keeps growing and getting better and has great potential to be like Brees, these type of QBs, that don’t have the physical stature take a little more time
I don’t think Grier wants to pay him 50m or he’d already be signed to an extension, maybe give him 50m with team friendly terms, making it not really 50m, so when you see the 6 year 300m contract announced wait for the terms
The Poyer intangibles
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/jordan-poyer-signing-reaction-miami-dolphins-mike-mcdaniel-nfl-2024/
Like Ray Lewis, it’s great leadership that makes a champion
His stats should be better last year, he had everything he could ask for on offense. He also finally played a whole season, so you’re going to say he got better? I’ll say it 100 times or a thousand if I have to, if he doesn’t play not to get hurt, he probably will get hurt, that’s his track record, like it or not.
except, you know, blockers to protect him for more than 1.9 seconds! but carry on with your false narrative. YOU believe yourself (it seems) at the least…
Keep saying stuff that sounds good. Because Tua is smaller he needs more time to get better. Guess who’s the same size as Tua, and kicked ass the second he got on the field? Brock Purdy! 6’1 220, didn’t need 5 years, or even 5 games, 7th RD pick, to be a great QB. You’re creating some false, hopeful fairy tale that Tua and Drew Brees are the same, and Tua will blossom just like Brees.
You can have your opinion, but it’s just that, I think of Purdy as you do Tua
SF also made the SB with Garo Polo
I have friends that are huge NFL fans, fans of the Jets, Chargers, Steelers. Why is it none of them think Tua is an upper echelon QB? Why are none of them afraid of him? Maybe it’s the ridiculously long list of failures at QB here in MIA since Marino that has you clinging to Tua like he’s some kind of savior to break the curse. Who knows, maybe he is, but I’m not paying him off of one good season, especially one filled with epic fails against winning teams (1-6).
you have typed one unquestionable truth in your rants. You are right. YOU are not paying him…
@flasportsbuzz
Dolphins conveyed to at least one veteran free agent starting guard that they’ll check in with him after the draft potentially if they are still looking for one…
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So, the Dolphins have a couple targets for the IOL in the draft. If they miss on him, they have a vet on standby. Two names come to mind, Cody Whitehair and Dalton Risner. Both are still available.
The free agent pool left at DT is really poor. Though, there are some decent OL out there.
I have to think our target with our first pick will be a DT then IOL second. May be why they have this vet OG on standby in case they don’t get their target OG at #55.
That may be so, but that vet ain’t waiting for the Fins to call if they get an offer elsewhere
True
However, most teams now are going to wait until after the draft to sign any more players. 1. To fills holes and 2. After the draft starting 2 May, free agents signed will no longer count against the compensation formula for 2025 compensation picks.
WR Jamal Agnew is still a FA. I would rather they sign him than OBJ.
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Fun fact: Wilkins & Raekwon Davis left for contracts worth as much as $124 M, including $92 M guaranteed. Miami’s primary replacements for them — Gallimore, Jonathan Harris, Benito Jones – signed for total of $5.37 M, including $4.2 M guaranteed. Those 3 must play best of career
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So these 3 are almost locks for the 53 with most of their contracts having guaranteed money. At least Gallimore and Jones will be as their contracts are 100% guaranteed. Harris only got 625K guaranteed or about 35%.
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Many NFL fans are upset that Caleb Williams is wearing lip gloss, has a pink phone, pink nails, and a pink wallet. Leave the kid alone…
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Not that there is anything wrong with this…
I just, for some reason, wish Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye would go #1 and #2 then Williams fall to the Pats at #3.
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Chiefs are signing Rugby star Louis Rees-Zammit as a RB/WR on Friday, per
@Schultz_Report
QB Joe Milton completed an 80 yard in air bomb at his pro day.
Cannon is an understatement for Milton
Oh let’s not go down the Tannehill road! I spent years arguing with almost every single person on this board that he was an average NFL QB! I had to hear about his 25 straight completions or his yardage or how tough he was. But, he has nothing to do with Tua. They fail for different reasons. Tua needs to prove he can step up and be the man who’s the difference between winning and losing in big moments. He simply hasn’t yet. Like it or not…and I’m not even sure I do…it’s all about winning big games for QBs. Ask any of them. It’s what they all say.
So are you saying you have no interest in buying my Tannehill jersey from me?
also have a Dion Jordan jersey for sale…
he proved it in 11 wins this season. ALL NFL teams are of NFL quality. Look at who “those good teams” lost games to. We kicked the shit out of teams that kicked the shit out of “good teams” Denver for example, but the other 10 wins were not against peewee teams!
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Mike, I don’t mock Ryan Tannehill all the time. I defended him for years due to what I thought was unfair criticism. He didn’t get to where we hoped he would with us but he had a nice run with the Titans. That said I think Tua is better than him.
OK, so now you’re defending Tua. You’re consistent. You’ve been a company guy for a long time. I admire that, I can’t do it, and I get frustrated sometimes when people just hold that line. It’s not personal, I just feel like we’re going to be worse this season. It reminds me a lot of what happened with the Mets. Spent a lot last year and now backed off and are trying to go with what we got this year. Dolphins let our own high priced guys walk, and filled up the roster with never was and has beens. Not confident at all about any of it, and if/when they give Tua that big Ole contract, that will bethe cherry on the mistake sundae
Everyone has a right to their opinions. I don’t take any of this personally. And like I’ve said before it doesn’t matter to me if we give him a new contract now or not I just think they will based on what we’ve heard. But they haven’t yet so who knows.
I agree we are going to be worse this season than last season. I vehemently disagree that it will because of Tua, unless he gets injured.
The only way we’re worse because of Tua is if he gets hurt.That being said, if the O-line is worse or as bad as last season, I think he might not do as well as he did last season
Dude, that stats show that Tua lifted those around him. something like 10 different offensive line combinations that were #31 in pass block win ratio but lead the league in passer rating for a good portion of the year (wound up top 5) and finished with the most yards, the deepest average throw, and the most yards with the 2nd worst pass blocking Oline in the league. Yeah, tell me more about how he doesn’t elevate those around him….
23 QB’s took more sacks ALL with better Olines
Hey Rock – save that “Weenie Hut Jr.” argument about winning teams for people who don’t watch football
carry on with your delusion Mike, it doesn’t make us love you any less because you can point to 4 games last year and say “See, this proves he can never beat a good team!” It doesn’t prove shit. Any given Sunday, and I have posted the teams that your “Good teams” lost to as proof of that.
In the 70s, when I didn’t know much about football, I knew that our toughest games were against teams with good lines, control the line and win the game
50+ years later nothing has changed
The relationship Poyer has with McDaniel and Weaver.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/jordan-poyer-signing-reaction-miami-dolphins-mike-mcdaniel-nfl-2024/
🍺 cheers
Oops I didn’t see that you posted this already. Cheers! 🍺
The good thing for the Dolphins is, even though “they can’t beat good teams” (eyeroll) they play VERY well against the BEST DEFENSES (which is all Tua can control) Chiefs #2 D – Would have one if not for a Hill fumble returned for a TD, Jet’s #3 D – Swept, Panthers #4 D – won by 3 TD’s, Cowboys #5 D – Won, Ravens #6 D – Well, they put up 56 points on our D, so ok Tua wilted? Patriots #7 D – Swept
While Tua “can’t win against good teams” he pays pretty fucking good against the “Best Defenses”
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Here is your hat
I might be late to the party because I haven’t been following the draft much but it sounds like QBs will go first 3 picks. Then possibly 3 more in the 1st round.
Or top 4picks
Yeah I heard that is a possibility too. I heard Louis Riddick talking about the QBs today. But it seems everyone thinks it’s a lock with 3.
Mike used to get pissed off when the Fins were shunned by the national media and sports books, like we all were, but now they’re giving us praise and he doesn’t agree
https://heavy.com/sports/miami-dolphins/bears-ryan-tannehill/
Fins U/O is 10.5 wins in Vegas, it wasn’t that high last year
I think we can win 11 again and that’s before the draft. We still have really good talent even if we lost some good players. We added some too.
I’m going to reserve judgement, until I watch the team at camp
In general win total us usually low, because injuries and other things can happen
True you never know what’s going to happen with injuries. But our offense is going to out score a lot of teams. Not sure what the defense is going to look like.
Rock,
if it was truly “any given Sunday” then why isn’t every single NFL game a 50/50 betting option in Vegas? Shouldn’t every game be an even toss up? No, because that’s insane. Every team in the NFL isn’t exactly the same. Sure, any given team might win every week, but it’s on a continuum. Some teams are better than others and that’s just the way it is. It may change from year to year, but that any given Sunday shit is just pablum for losers.
Piggy,
I have never actually bought a jersey for myself. I have had people buy me two Marino jerseys over the years but that’s it. Obviously, they didn’t understand my hatred of QBs because I wanted an Offerdahl or Bowens jersey! Lol
I’m not quite sure what our new D will look like but from what they’ve been saying a veteran safety can be significant. His on-field performance may be secondary to his ability to help run the defense…getting everybody where they’re supposed to be….and help younger players learn it.
That seems to be a big reason why we signed him. He feels he still has game left so we’ll see.
This one worked out. Doubled down on Safety in case they let Holland walk next year.
27. Johnny Newton DT Illinois
55. Cooper Beebe OG Kansas State
71. Cole Bishop S Utah
138. Theo Johnson TE Penn State
158. Javon Foster OT Missouri
184. Aaron Casey LB Indiana
198. Isaac Guerendo RB Louisville
241. Dominique Hampton S Washington
Pass block win rate means you hold your block for 2.5 seconds. Tua threw the ball in 2.36 seconds. So, whats the cause of a poor pass blocking rate? The OL? Or Tua for getting the ball out late? If Tua is throwing his passes in 2.36 seconds….just what plays are they using to evaluate their PBR? Why were those throws coming out late?
1st and 2nd receiver covered
He was throwing deep. Deeper routes, take longer that’s a big duh….
BBM,
Aaron Casey would be a nice ST player. I watched him a handful of times against Iowa. I’m not sure he’s a starter, but he’s a banger who could be a ST demon.
I don’t see the point in drafting a TE, unless Bowers is there at 21 and they feel the need, anyone else would be drafted after the start of the 5th barring a trade won’t make the team, and even if they do not much of an upgrade
Agreed. We just added two more TEs. I don’t think Bowers will be there at #21.
Smythe, Smith, Hill, Fortson and Conner who never seems to play much if at all. We also utilize a FB in Ingold.
Both are below average in blocking. One of them might not even make the team.
I heard Fortson is a good blocker and we brought them in for a reason. Smith is definitely making the team.
Steve – I see through the veneer. We’re not that good. Until i see us compete well against good teams I can’t possibly believe things will be different.
No argument here, Rock and I both thought 10.5 season wins were too much, what does that have to do with Tua?
Since I’m living in Florida now I need to change my prediction avatar from 🎰 to 🚀 or 🏖🛶🌊
Hey MIke,
Do you remember yelling at me because I said I didn’t see Tua being an elite QB a couple of years back?
Even though he’s top 5 in many categories. It’s not about one guy.
Yeah, I’m just a couple of years behind you pal! I’m actually willing to give him another season, but definitely not a contract until I see better play against better competition
Didn’t Rock just point that out. Tua doesn’t play defense and STs.
He’s a poor man’s elite, just like Purdy
He gets a lot of stats on 1st and 2nd downs because of Hill and Waddle, then on 3rd down and both doubled we shit the bed against good teams
Is it Tua’s fault? IDK, but MM sure didn’t help
The OL needs to be elite or very good to allow guys to get open, or we need another receiver to come open
More 3rd down plays need to be designed, so that someone other than Hill and Waddle are the 1st 2 targets, and Tua needs to believe in these other receivers enough to throw it to them instead of into double coverage
Doesn’t matter what we think, a contract for Tua is in the works
tim don’t you know? if you ignore fax, you don’t have to deal with them.
**facts
It doesn’t matter to you guys that every time we play a good team our QB shits the bed. It’s not always about what the rest of the team does. If the defense only gave up one 7 points, he’d find a way to get 2 FG’s. If you guys can’t see that he plays poorly when we play good teams, I guess I can’t help you see it.
MikeE,
Don’t let the unicorns and rainbows crowd make you shut up! It’s okay not to follow the crowd off the cliff! Lol
LOL, you can tell by now that I won’t shut up. Funny thing is I hope they’re right. I want him to be great, I just don’t believe he can be
The Flying Pig
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March 27, 2024 at 10:32 pm
M13
I think Amegadjie is goi g to be quite a steal for some one. He may end up in the 3rd round simply bc he okayed in the Ivy League
I suspect MM has his eye on him
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Absolutely agreed, Pigster. It may take him some time to make the leap from Ivy League to NFL, but he really looks the part of star in the making. I hope we land him somehow, someway. It would be nice if he fell to us in the 5th, but I wouldn’t count on that happening.
By the way, his Yale Pro Day is 4/3/24. He’s coming off a knee injury.
Actually a partially torn left quad suffered back in October.
If I’m paying one player $55M/year, you damn well better believe that I expect more from him than anybody else because I’m paying him to win….not rack up stats. If you don’t want that pressure then sign a lesser contract.
What does 55m a year mean
Hill got 30m a year, which averaged out to be more like 24m
Terms are more important, than the avg per year
Do we have an out in 2 or 3 years, is there a void year
When you hear Tua signed for 50m avg per year wait for the terms
Rock and steve
Well, your reasons for the longer time to throw for Tua MAY be correct, but it might be something else too. A receiver slips. A bad snap. Tua has to take an extra step. There are tons of reasons…not just the ones you pointed out. Duh? Lol
Tim, our TE room will be Smith, Smythe, Hill and ??? He is a nice addition. I think Fortson is a long shot to make the team. Have not heard anything about him being a good blocker. At 6’4 226, he is really light for a TE. I think Tanner Conner won’t make it again either.
Smith is a nice addition.
So Yale T Kiran Amegadjie’s Pro Day is 4/3/24, after suffering a partially torn left quad back in October. Recovery time is generally 4-6 months. He should be ready to go and show the world where he’s at.
Pretty sure Coach McDaniel will be watching closely… possibly in person at his alma mater.
Dream scenario would be Kiran somehow falling through the cracks to the 5th round to us… granted he’s healthy.
One reason it takes teams a few years to get to the top is not having the right combination of players
With all the injuries we had last year it was easy to find the weak links
Hopefully we’ve made the right changes
KC had to get by NE, once they did it was mostly clear sailing
Buffalo has the great unstoppable QB, why can’t they win? They don’t know how to beat KC, like we don’t know how to beat Buffalo
steve,
I agree you need the players, but teams need to learn how to win. It’s a thing. That’s why we don’t see teams come out of nowhere very often in the NFL. You have to go through the playoffs and learn how to play in big games. That’s what I’m hoping we’re seeing now, but late season collapses and 2 playoff loses aren’t encouraging. Maybe this is the year we break thru and win a playoff game.
The 2 playoff games were on the road -27 degrees and 3rd string QB
The horror of losing those games against 2 of the best AFC teams for years
bailbondmike
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March 28, 2024 at 11:19 am
QB Joe Milton completed an 80 yard in air bomb at his pro day.
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He has a once-in-a-lifetime arm, hence my intrigue. Can he be coached-up, so as to make him accurate? Only time will tell. I’d take a chance on him on day 3 if he’s still available.
Think of it… even if he throw an INT after 80 yards in the air, that’s nearly twice as good as the average Punter!
Here’s the video of his 80-yard, all air, BOMB…
Joe Milton is on my ‘man-crush list’, if not for simply the intrigue of what could be done if a pro ‘QB whisperer’ can fix his accuracy issues.
Steve,
Saying someone is a poor man’s elite, means the guy isn’t elite. That doesn’t mean he’s trash, he’s just not a generational QB.
Not yet
KC still needed the refs to win Super Bowls. Don’t forget that.
I agree with that, but part of that is knowing what is called hence knowing how to win
https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-made-good-use-of-the-money-save-by-letting-christian-wilkins-walk
My ONLY issue in letting Wilkins and Hunt is this: they were not tendered/tagged, by which we could get some kind of compensation.
There is NO WAY we could have afforded either of them, so as to re-sign them as FAs.
*in letting Wilkins and Hunt walk into FA is this
And when I say compensation, I’m talking about REAL/TRUE value… not compensatory picks next season.
If they didn’t sign and no other teams made offers we wouldn’t have been able to sign many FAs and missed out on who we wanted. Remember teams know much more about the market and offers than we do. It sounds good but not realistic.
Then in the end… we won’t decide a thing… for our team. 😉
Tua has only lost 1 PO game.
This is not epic failure of a career-defining proportion.
Signing three Edge/LB off the street just to play that playoff game. We were a wounded team going to KC against the Super Bowl Champs in -30 temps where some fans eventually had amputations done. I said before that game it shouldn’t be played. Even if it was just 30 degrees we weren’t beating the Chiefs especially in their building.
But I know, no excuses. That’s not how I view life. There are reasons for everything. An excuse is to give a lame reason for not doing something. A reason is because of reality. Two different things.
Why didn’t you do the laundry? I was baking cookies.
Why didn’t you go mountain bike riding today? The trails were flooded and it would have been awful, horrible conditions.
The game Tua lost was so cold that as many as 2 dozen fans
had amputations because of it.
Tua was born and raised in the southern-most state.
He played college ball in Alabama, which is hot as hell.
He lives, practices, and plays home games in Miami,
which is south of half of Mexico.
Maybe next March he’ll go practice in Lappland,
because every off season he has focused on his worst issue
with a great work ethic. And improved in each one.
Maybe next time he’ll play better in two games against the Bills and Ravens back to back in his home stadium where it’s nice and warm so the team doesn’t have to travel to KC for a playoff game?
It’s funny how we make excuses like I expect you to because the game in KC was weawy, weawy cold. Again, we choked away the division crown to put ourselves in that predicament. In other words, the games at the end of the season were also big games, just like the playoff game itself, and how did Tua play in those games? I already know, and I also know you’ll say injuries to the defense was the issue. What about the offense?
Who was rushing the passer against friggin Mahomes? Why do you keep ignoring that part of it like it’s an afterthought? You already said our OL was not good. So that along with guys off the street to rush the passer, you say gotta beat them Tua or I don’t know if you’re the real deal. Seriously?
We weren’t the best team. We finished the season #6 in the AFC. The goal is always to make the playoffs. Two years in a row for the first time in 22 years. I’m digging the ride. It’s been a while. 🙂
Tua never got hurt as a runner.
His injuries were from getting his head smashed into the ground.
At least one of those times was an intentional dirty hit.
the Colts, Bengals, and Jets had bad records due to injuries to their starting QBs,
even though they had good rosters otherwise.
I’m glad Tua stayed safe and brought us 11 wins and lots of fun plays.
Now he needs to perfect the scramble drill.
So he hired a QB coach to teach him that.
it’s obvious that the Ravens destroyed our defense and got our DC fired.
That game had nothing to do with our offense.
Tua beat both the Ravens and Bills the year before, but playing like that cost us 5 or 6 losses due to the injuries.
Tua was obviously under orders to not let that happen again. He was obviously coached and play-called to not try to win games all by himself.
I’m not sure I agree with that philosophy, but we had a first-time HC making thise decisions.
Also after 2022 many people were calling for Tua to quit football for the sake of his health. I would imagine that going into seizures on the field might have an ongoing effect on a man, his parents, his coaches, and the Front Office who had planned on having him be their QB for years.
As time passes that event will recede, and all involved will edge back toward Tua playing with more risky behavior.
Even while being hesitant, he led the league in passing yards, got 11 wins and a PO berth, and was voted into the ProBowl.
it’s not like he or the team had a lost season.
PS … I love that after the Baltimore beat-down, we stole their DC.
That was a brilliant move by McDaniel-Grier.
If anybody would know how to prevent that from happening again,
such as in the 2024 PO,
it would be the DC who practiced against that offense every day for years.
He wasn’t their DC
Weaver was the Ravens’ assistant head coach and defensive line coach for the 2023 season.
BTW
the Ravens loss was on the road to the team with the best record in football.
it’s not unusual to lose on the road to a double digit victory team with a veteran SB-winning HC and a veteran MVP QB.
Everything rides on the QB suddenly being able to perform in big time situations. I feel that is something you cannot be taught.
Mike E keeps bringing it up and its true. They had a 3 game lead with 5 to go. Choked it away. Did the QB perform at this high elite level and everyone else just blew it? KC weather was a consequence, not an excuse. Besides, KC played in that weather too. These are grown ass men being paid more money than we can even imagine, suck it up.
Cowboys, Ravens and Bills to finish the season. Choked it away? 😂
The Titans loss before that was our biggest loss of the season. We shut the Jets out 30-0, beat the Cowboys in a close game than lost to the Ravens and Bills. It didn’t matter at that point with how banged up we were.
Heading into 2024 does anyone think Tua won’t be the starting QB? This discussion has really run its course. It just repeats itself over and over. New contract or not he’s the starter.
The DL/Edge is our biggest dilemma for a few reasons. We all know why. I won’t be surprised if we go interior DL and Edge first two picks. Not OL. Young OL don’t always play up to their projection first season. Defense has a better track record. Phillips is heading into his 4th season and Chubb is probably two more years.
We need to add an interior DL who has upside and can help us in 2024. That would be ideal. Chris Jones was a 2nd pick, not top 10 or 1st round. They’re out there.
We know he’s the QB in ’24. I would like him to earn being the QB in ’25 and beyond
The OL was our Achilles heal last year, when they played well the team won, when not it was a struggle
Tim – Brock Purdy was a 7th RD pick. Tom Brady a 6th. QB’s are out there too, just need to find the right one
Signing Tua to a new contract could set the franchise back for years
Getting rid of Tua could set the franchise back for years
We know there’s no plans to replace him, even if he plays on his 5th year and we don’t make playoffs
Yes Tim, choked it away. That is what losing a 3 game lead with 5 to play is. Your excuse is that they are good teams? I watched the “leader” of the team shrink away game after game. Then just shrug his shoulders about it.
Yes he’s the starter next season. Groundhogs day
This team doesn’t need to pull what the Giants did with their QB situation.
I don’t think it’s as big an issue to replace your QB anymore. These teams get guys ready to go pretty damn quick. It’s all based on the kid, but I don’t think letting Tua go sets us back much. And, if they make the right pick to replace him it could happen immediately.
It could also make the rest of the team better by freeing up money to sign guys. I hope the kid steps up this year and proves he’s a true franchise QB, but moving on from him doesn’t worry me at all. This team isn’t close to sniffing a championship anyway….whats a few more years?!
steveccnv
says:
March 29, 2024 at 8:44 am (Edit)
Signing Tua to a new contract could set the franchise back for years
Getting rid of Tua could set the franchise back for years
We know there’s no plans to replace him, even if he plays on his 5th year and we don’t make playoffs
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This really sums up the situation perfectly. The only flaw is “plans”. The best prospect ever could be in the ’25 draft but he could have a terrible season in college and drop like a stone. He could get injured and be ruined. Or, some other QB not yet heard of can rise up the charts and become the most sought after QB in the draft. Planning doesn’t mean shit, it really doesn’t. All you need to know is whether the guy you have has it or doesn’t, and then you know you need a different QB. End of story! Once you know you need a QB, you do your homework on QB’s in the upcoming draft and you do your best to get the guy you think is the one for your team, system, etc.
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