Front office has solidified the defense – Is Miami ready for a deep playoff run?

As many of you here know, I deeply lament the loss of DT/DE Christian Wilkins. At least for this season, the Dolphins front office has found a suitable replacement for Wilkins. At 38 years old, Calais Campbell is not Christian Wilkins. On the other hand, the Dolphins defense as constructed by DC Anthony Weaver and Chris Grier is going to me much more of a rotational situation on the defensive line, which suits Calais Campbell perfectly. Don’t take me the wrong way, Calais Campbell played more defensive snaps last season than any other lineman not named Zach Sieler, and in some cases more than a few them combined. The rotation that we will be employing will allow us to get the best of Campbell though, especially at age 38. He will likely be asked to play not much more than half of the 712 snaps he played last season. We want him fresh, and everyone else really, down the stretch for the big push towards the playoffs. As any Dolphins fan knows, we limped, dragged and crawled into the playoffs with a M*A*S*H squad of injured and replacement players. We need to change that, and come in hot, and ready to do battle.

So after all the moves on defense, I have to say that we look good enough to be competitive. I don’t think we upgraded the entire defense, but I think the secondary, as long as everyone is healthy, will be much better than the start of last year, with a gimpy Xavien Howard, no Jalen Ramsey, and Eli Apple as the starter opposite Howard. Jalen Ramsey and Kendall Fuller are a formidable CB tandem, and I expect them to play at a high level together. I think the trio of safeties, Jevon Holland, and newly acquired Jordan Poyer and Marcus Maye could be an upgrade over Holland and Jones, and DeShon Elliott. Training camp will be very important for these guys to get on the same page with each other and as we know, a few of these players will playing multiple positions and have a lot of different responsibilities. As they are all veterans, I don’t expect it to be an issue, and hopefully, Jordan Poyer has a lot left in the tank for us in ’24.

At linebacker, some think we’ve upgraded, but I’m cautious about that. Some people think Tua gets no respect, well I believe ILB Jerome Baker might be the most under appreciated and disrespected LB we’ve had here in MIA. As Randy correctly assessed, Baker is really a weakside LB, but we’ve been playing him inside for a few years. So now, Jordyn Brooks, who we picked up as a free agent from Seattle, will be Baker’s replacement. Some say his coverage skills are better than Baker’s, we’ll see. The stats, by the way don’t support this, Bakers comp % and yards per reception allowed are lower than Brooks. Baker, who has also played longer (2 more seasons), has 5 INT’s while Brooks has 1. Baker also has 22.5 sacks while Brooks has only 6.5. Baker showed a lot of heart coming back from injury and making that goal line stop, I’ll never forget that play. Like I said, unduly disrespected.

The defensive line no question got a huge boost with the addition of Calais Campbell. Zach Sieler is probably thrilled! The rotation of a bunch of part time players will be tested. Anthony Weaver will be tested. As much as Fangio was hated by our players, this team played strong defense until the injuries didn’t allow it to. We were a top 10 defense with Fangio. Weaver will have to be impressive early on to match that, and with 2 of our best pass rushers rehabbing from injutres, Phillips (achilles), and Chubb (ACL), we’ll have veteran Shaq Barrett and rookie 1st RD selection Chop Robinson. It could be a while before we see Phillips and/or Chubb on the field, and most likely a while longer before we see them getting a big workload. Add in Mo Kamara, it’s possible that Chubb and Phillips don’t play a huge role until the end of the season, and in a reverse from last season where the defense was decimated, this season we come in at full strength and rested and raring to go.

I don’t look at our roster, team, and say this team is good enough to win a Super Bowl. I think there are too many questions, is the O-line good enough, and are we done adding players? Recently, news from Connor Williams agent was out that he will be ready to start the season and play immediately, which conflicts with earlier reports. I’d sign Connor Williams in a second, even if he can’t play until mid season or later because if/when he’s ready to play, he’s likely our best interior O-lineman. We’ll find out soon enough whether C Aaron Brewer is good enough, but hopefully our fallback option is Connor Williams and not Liam Eichenberg, who is serviceable at best. I think Eichenberg could potentially be a plus starter at OG, I haven’t given up on him yet. I’m interested to see how the competition shakes out between Isaiah Wynn, Robert Jones and Liam Eichenberg. I think the depth on the O-line is solid, but I’d love an upgrade, and I believe Connor Williams would be an upgrade when healthy at LG, C, or RG. You can’t forget just how excellent he was here, he’s so powerful and wins his matchups.

To many of you here, I apologize for not including QB Tua Tagovailoa in this article, I’m sure you’re all crushed!

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403 Responses to Front office has solidified the defense – Is Miami ready for a deep playoff run?

  1. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Krishna – you know what’s funny? I hated Florio, thought he was a clown, Dolphin hater. He’s a guest on the Joe Rose Show on WQAM every Friday morning. Truth is, he’s a knowledgeable guy who knows the NFL pretty darn well and just says what he thinks like most other NFL related commentators. I don’t believe he hates Tua, or has an agenda against Tua or the Dolphins.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      WOW! Bro, that’s just flat wrong. Florio and Sims are confirmed Phins haters.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Confirmed by whom exactly? Why does Joe Rose have him on his show every week? Am I a Dolphins hater? I rip this team a new asshole at least half the time? Maybe we’re just right? Maybe mot?

  2. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E.

     says:

    June 25, 2024 at 9:09 pm

    M – why should the Dolphins be immune to this?…

    ———–

    Mike E, I’m going to be frank with ya. I’m so fucking tired of our Phins being in the media cycle for all the wrong reasons. I want our team to FLOURISH! But every fucking year, the media finds some reason to pour salt in our game. It’s very tiring.

    Could we have at least ONE season without the media trying to over-scrutinize our favorite team? The media bias against us is SO clear to see (for years now!), and it makes me very sad, man. 😦

    We need (and should!) feel good about where we’re headed, but every single fuckin’ year it’s something else that becomes a distraction for us fans, created by the media.

    I want it to STOP, man!

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      We diehards (like YOU!) deserve better, Bro.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        We deserve better from our team. From our organization. Until they deliver it, expect nothing to change. Win the division, win a playoff game or two. Do something to earn respect from the NFL talking heads

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        That’s fair from YOU, but still unfair how the media treats us… like bastard red-headed step-children, despite recent and relative success.

        Many feel (the media scrutiny) is all about Steve Ross… many feel it’s about GM Grief… some feel it’s about a curse… some feel it’s about a curse of building on an Indian burial ground… others feel like the media just isn’t fair to us.

  3. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E.

     says:

    June 25, 2024 at 9:37 pm

    Confirmed by whom exactly?…

    ———-

    LOL 😆

  4. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    It’s just the way it is, until you’ve done something, you haven done anything

    It’s not a bias against us, when we had Marino, we were over hyped, because of him

    Tua is no Marino, he may be some day, but until that time comes, when he has the ball in his hand with 2 minutes left and you can count on him to score, we’ll get treated as we are now

  5. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Florio might be knowledgeable, I don’t listen or watch him much. However, what little I have seen is that he uses that platform of so-called “knowledge” to push a petty, demeaning agenda. That’s not journalism. It’s click-bait. I guess he’s like most, but I don’t see him in the same way as JD. Jmo.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      And his side-kick Simms, is a side-kick….he’s worthless and still riding daddy’s coat tails, jmo.

  6. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    M13,

    like others have said, the only was to stop the negative narrative is to win. We are far from the only whipping boys over the last few decades : Chargers, Lions, Bengals, Jags, Browns, etc. The Dolphins don’t deserve that much respect u til they can win a playoff game and prove they can win when it counts. Think about this- REALLY think about this : The Miami Dolphins have not won a playoff game in over 24 YEARS. What other team has a longer drought right now? None. Earn some respect and a they will get it.

  7. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    oh boy…I shouldn’t read the newspaper. Is this for real? Guess what the leading cause of death is for children? Let’s not be histrionic about this….lol.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Absence of parental guidance and modeling, glorification of criminal conduct, lack of respect for anyone or anything (self, women, law, etc), entitlement, public school indoctrination, lack of consequences, learned victim-hood?

      What were the criteria for whatever stats to which you refer? What constituted a “child” – ,12, ,15, 18? What activity were they engaged in when they met their demise? Was it self-inflicted?

      My guess is cannabis use…

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Looks like that about covers it

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Lol….good answer, but way off the mark. As in, not even close. A warning label is being recommended to be placed on guns…

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        What kind of idiot doesn’t know guns are dangerous and what child has ever read and heeded a warning label?

        Let’s put warning labels on bridges, cars, cliffs, getting out of bed….

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        ….and in the article about warning labels on guns from the Surgeon General in USA Today, it states that “guns” are the leading cause of death of children….

  8. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Anyone notice what Stephen A. Smith just got paid? $18M per for 5 years from ESPN. Do any of you like him? I don’t. Mike Florio is similar in some ways to Smith. Does he sensationalize occasionally? Sure, but if you want to be seen, heard, and read, sometimes that doesn’t hurt. I listen to Florio every Friday, when he’s on the Joe Rose Show, and I honestly don’t hear any bias against our team. Ross has done some dumbass things over the years to deserve to be mocked. We had “Bullygate” here. We do it to ourselves, the media doesn’t do it, they just talk about it. Now we have Tua and his agent who wants to get paid top money, but hasn’t earned it. Yes, Herbert got paid before he did, Lawrence did too, but I doubt Tua will take the structure of Lawrence’s deal. If he would, the Dolphins should have already given it to him

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I respect Stephen A, he’s self made, did things the right way to get to where he is, he earned it

      His opinion is another story

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I also have to add, Dolphins Twitter is littered with know-it-all fanboy assclowns that are fucking shills for this team, for Tua. Whateva . . . Blindly supporting this team is laughable. They’re ripping Jeff Darlington, a respected NFL journalist because they can’t wrap their wittle head awound the fact that Tua is a risky investment.

    I also have to add, Dolphins Twitter is littered with know-it-all fanboy assclowns that are fucking shills for this team, for Tua. Whateva . . . Blindly supporting this team is laughable. They’re ripping Darlington for his opinion. I’m sure these same assclowns said Tua would have his contract already, so what’s the fucking holdup?Also, why do they want Tua to get paid a huge contract? Shouldn’t they want what’s best for the team, and not one player?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Common sense in America isn’t common any longer, we have too many stupid people, that take what they hear as word, too lazy to do any ground work

      Former players and Omar of course are going to want the players to make as much as possible, as hypocritical as that is

      Fins are going to spend as much as they’re allowed too, why would anyone including former players want 1 guy taking money from another?

      You nailed it Mike we should want Tua to be paid as little as possible

      So why is it, that when Calais signs a $2m contract everyone thinks it’s great, but with Tua they want the team to pay as much as possible?

  10. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    This BS about the “MARKET” in the statement Fins aren’t offering Tua market value, is just a jumbled word salad

    What is market value? It’s not what the previous guy got or a little more, that’s the trend. Market value is what the 2 sides agree upon

    Tua’s leverage is to not show up or to not play hard, FA has no part in this

    Team has the 5th year option, which was agreed upon by both sides, and 2 yrs of F tags, Tua has no real leverage for 3 years

    Play hardball Grier, then kick him in the nuts just because

  11. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I don’t read or follow other social media to get my Dolphin news, except from here. I use phinwire to find articles on the team that don’t have paywalls and try to share what I can. I think this bunch/blog is pretty savvy when it comes to watching/assessing the Dolphins.

    And, I’m certainly NOT a fanboy….lol. Perhaps, I’m a grumpy old man whose teenage years saw this team in its glory and expects/hopes to get back there some day…lol.

  12. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I’m not a big fan of the sort of QB Tua is. I prefer a Josh Allen-type. I think small, short, non-mobile QBs are just at a disadvantage physically. That’s just my personal preference and doesn’t mean I think those sorts of QBs can’t be successful. It’s very rare if you think about it….and any small QB who ever did much of anything usually had some other facet of their game that was amazing. It’s becoming more possible because you can’t touch a QB, but it’s still rare.

    All that said, I am fine with giving Tua this year to improve on his big game performances and leadership. It’s not like we have a choice. I’m always leery of a leader who everybody seems to like. Being a leader means sometimes doing shit that pisses somebody off. Do we see that from Tua? Step up and be the reason we win half a dozen games this season then maybe the narrative changes. Oh, and you would actually deserve $50M/year.

    I’m gonna root for the kid just as hard and as much as I root for every player, and I hope I’m eating crow in February! Wait, is the SB still in February? 🙂

  13. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    And I still don’t understand why anybody gives two shits about what ANY reporter or media sort says….let alone argue about it for decades! It’s truly baffling to me. Is this senility? Just doing a reality check.

  14. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Omar has been reading Steve.

    ——–

    @OmarKelly

    Very few, if any QBs are REALLY making $50M a season. You folks are just caught up in the fake numbers.

    Trevor Lawrence will make $39M this year.

    Joe Burrow will make $22.7M this year.

    Justin Herbert will make $16.1M this year.

    Lamar Jackson will make $18.5M this year.

  15. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Why is it that you have to be on a side about Tua’s contract negotiations? The only people involved in it are the team and Tua and his agent.

    I asked if Jeff Darlington really knows what the numbers being discussed are and that erupted into a split on what media personalities we like and don’t like. That’s not what my question was about. None of the media mentions what the Dolphins are offering, just that it’s below market and they’re not optimistic that a deal will get done anytime soon. What are they going by?

  16. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    People going crazy over what Lawrence got or what they think he got is ridiculous.

    Lawrence got a Tyreek Hill deal where he will never see the money on the last 2 years of his contract.

    His cap hits from 2024 to 2028 are 15M, 17M, 24M, 35M and 47M.

    His cap hits in 2029 and 2030 are 78.5M and 74.8M.

    All of his guaranteed money is paid out from 2024 to 2028. The Jags have a 2029 out clause. They can release him or give another extension voiding those last 2 years and have ZERO dead money. None of that remaining 153.3M is guaranteed. It is all fluff.

    Average cash Lawrence will get from 2024 to 2028 is 40.4M.

    Jags can actually release Lawrence after 2027 and only have a 7.5M dead cap and clear almost 40M if they figure he is not their guy.

    It is a good deal for the Jags. Only thing negative for the team is there is a full no trade clause.

  17. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I say give Tua the “55M per” that Lawrence got or even “60M per” as long as it set up like Lawrence’s contract. Let the agent have his fluff that Tua will never see.

  18. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I really don’t care how much Tua gets paid. Like I’ve stated before, that’s between him, his agent, and the team. And I don’t care for how this is somehow becoming a ‘big story’ in the media.

    All I do care about? That the deal gets done before TC arrives. I don’t want negative emotions carrying over into the season. To me, it’s just stricly business. Fan-boys are going to fan-boy, and they don’t realize that business comes first.

  19. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Hoping he is full go by mid season.

  20. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim Knight

     says:

    June 26, 2024 at 11:54 am (Edit)

    Why is it that you have to be on a side about Tua’s contract negotiations? The only people involved in it are the team and Tua and his agent.

    ******************************************

    Excellent question. Here’s my answer. I want him to get paid as little as possible and count as little against the cap. Why wouldn’t I?

    On the other hand, there are people on twitter (X) that want him to be the highest paid QB so they can say they were right about Tua and he’s the greatest QB and they love him

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      But those fans on Twitter aren’t the same as us here. I haven’t seen anyone here say he should be the highest paid QB.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        There are so many on twitter, that don’t necessarily want him to be the highest paid, but want him to get a huge contract. Why? Why would you root for a player to get a monster contract that could cripple your team? I don’t care what anyone gets paid, but if they’re going to get paid a shit ton, they better be worth it

  21. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The title of this article is unfair. It’s not ego it’s business. It’s also not about swallowing his pride.

    https://phinphanatic.com/posts/tua-tagovailoa-may-need-put-his-ego-aside-get-dolphins-mega-deal-done-01j1a1hw283g

  22. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,

    It’s the woke culture. The word “deserve” has become the most overused word in the English language….either that or “disrespected”! I’m not even sure most people under 50 know what those words mean. The victim role has become very lucrative for many groups. Lol

  23. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – Do you think Tua is bothered by this stuff?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Probably not but I’m sure he finds it annoying like some of us do. Every year the media creates a negative narrative about him both locally and nationally.

  24. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Tua’s contract news is the same as news before the draft, smokescreen after smokescreen put out there by both sides

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s starting to heat up with negativity. The titles of articles are beginning to make him the bad guy. There is no bad guy it’s negotiating which lot of players and teams in all sports go through.

  25. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

    FWIW, I see just as many stupid fucks on Twitter (X) saying that Tua sucks… that why should we even pay him? Some are saying to just trade him outright while his stock is high and some are saying to outright cut him for even going to the negociation table. What???

    BOTH extreme sides are just ridiculous to me. That’s why I like to frequent this place… we have some pretty knowledgable, rational minds here at the FMU tempered by experience and wisdom.

  26. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    @NFL_DovKleiman

    NFL 2024/25 – Regular Season – Most Wins Odds: #Chiefs +500 #Ravens +550 #49ers +550 #Lions +800 #Bengals +900 #Falcons +1,300 #Dolphins +1,400 #Eagles +1,400 #Jets +1,400 #Bills +1,400

    – Odds via MonkeyTiltPlay

  27. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    NFL 2024/25 – Regular Season – Most Wins Odds: #Chiefs +500 #Ravens +550 #49ers +550 #Lions +800 #Bengals +900 #Falcons +1,300 #Dolphins +1,400 #Eagles +1,400 #Jets +1,400 #Bills +1,400

    – Odds via MonkeyTiltPlay

  28. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Okay, so now I see that the use of multiple hashtags doesn’t work on WordPress now either. Thought it was only about multiple @ addresses.

  29. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    WOW we signed Calais, Poyer, Fuller, Barrett, Jonnu, frickin’ OBJ, and Marcus Maye.

    What a great haul of talent!

    plus 3 different guys generally regarded as “steals” in the draft.

    not to mention adding speed and toughness in the middle

    of both OL and Front 7 in Brewer and Brooks,

    AND a new DC whose rep is having a high energy, tough-ass D!!

    I’m stoked for this season.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      The potential is there and not to be negative, but the odds that everything goes well are usually not great. But like you I prefer to be optimistic until it’s too difficult to do so.

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        yeah I just have so much fun all the time it just spills over into this blog sometimes.

        for example tomorrow we’re flying up for our granddaughter Sadie’s First birthday party.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That’s a great FA period, biggest news of all is no one came close to breaking the bank, I’d bet if the real cap hits (real apy) were added up it would be less than the 30m Wilkins got

  30. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    @AdamSchefter

    ·

    NFL teams were informed today that there will be no supplemental draft this year.

  31. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    For what it’s worth, Randy what say you

  32. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Krishna

     says:

    June 26, 2024 at 4:04 pm

    ….and in the article about warning labels on guns from the Surgeon General in USA Today, it states that “guns” are the leading cause of death of children….

    ====================================

    I refer you back to my previous questions. And the “Surgeon General” is a dude who thinks he’s a woman, so his judgement is questionable…just sayin”…

  33. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    and yesterday we went to a fish house and had some luscious blackened yellowtail snapper, and I got a Woodford bourbon old fashion while she had a Cadillac margarita to celebrate our 47th wedding anniversary!!

    47 fabulous years of parties and adventures.

    it was great to look at pelicans and egrets fishing in the back bay of Ft. Myers Beach and listen to live guitarist.

  34. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Happy Anniversary Naples! ❤️

  35. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    steve,

    I think Jones was a solid backup, but I’d still go with Eich. I think Eich may have a higher ceiling…but that’s always conjecture. I think Jones showed last year that he can play. He is better in the run game. I don’t know if I agree he played as well as that dude thinks, but I thought he held his own most of the time. They’re both still young guys, so I hope they both continue to get better. We will probably see him playing one way or another as the season goes along. I can’t say I’d be surprised if he ends up starting but that has more to do with his competition than anything else.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Thanks, good analysis

      When Eichenberg and Jones scored relatively close to Hunt the study has flaws

      I have heard people say they believe Eichenberg will take a similar step like Jackson took last year

  36. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    M – giving out participation trophies now? 🏆

  37. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I can’t believe every headline for every story about Darlington saying, Fins not offering market value to Tua, just regurgitates what Jeff said

    Aren’t these guys supposed to be journalists?

    IDK, maybe someone did, I didn’t read many, just going by headlines mostly

    Obviously Tua’s agent sent this message out, so consider the source and the objective

  38. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    If Tua didn’t have the injury history he’d already be signed

    That is on Tua, surely he doesn’t want to play on the 5th year option, because he’d risk career ending injuries like concussions, so I believe his side will cave first

    Fins have 3 more years to fuck around, if he pouts about it and doesn’t play well, he’ll pay for it when he does actually sign his new contract

    What I think happens is, before camp, his side says give us the apy of 55m with a somewhat low fully guaranteed money and yearly guarantees and we’ll sign

    In other words Trevor’s contract

  39. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LFGM! Way to thump the Bronx Bombers and get back to .500

    Now we need to keep playing well and get ahead in the WC race

  40. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    All Darlington said was he doesn’t think the Dolphins are offering the same contract Goff and then Trevor Lawrence got and Dolphins fans are in a frenzy, and Darlington is an asshole.

    I say to you, Dolphins fans, did Tua sign a contract yet? Ask yourself why that might be, and then think to yourself, is Jeff Darlington really an asshole, or maybe he’s right

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      He’s neither and he’s both

      He’s an asshole in this situation for playing the agents game overall not, he’s right including the terms, he’s wrong in that the market is what the 2 sides agree it is

      Make Tua sweat it out

  41. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Goff and Lawrence were both #1 picks, and won playoff games, Goff has been to an SB, Lawrence has a very cap friendly contract

    Does not giving Tua 1st overall pick money mean his offer isn’t in the market? Who gets to decide what the market is for every starting QB?

    Should every starting QB sign as the next top paid, if not does it mean it’s below market?

    It’s just a negotiation. Last offseason Jackson went thru the same process

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I don’t think it should mean that, but Herbert got paid before he did anything and so did Lawrence. Just like we paid 5 different DL $1-2M contracts while Wilkins got $27.5M per. QB is a little more muddled because they do pay for potential more than accomplishments. Tua played one full season in 5 years and and now all of a sudden he should be grandly rewarded? I think it’s crazy, but this is sports.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Yes Herbert got paid on potential, because he could go toe to toe with Mahomes

        Tua is a finese, smokescreen kind of QB, from the wrong era (pocket QB era), that no one drew up on a computer while saying this is my prototyping QB

        Every time he gets hit I wince

  42. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I love reading twitter and seeing Dolphins fans frothing about “Pay Tua what he’s earned”. Earned? Well, he finally finished a full season, with mixed results, led the league in passing yards and crumbled like a cookie in big games at the end of the season, including the finale at home at Hard Rock. Yeah, let’s back up the Brinks truck for that. Pfffffffffffft!

  43. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Sarcasm from Omar:

    @OmarKelly

    About 40 percent of the Dolphins roster was put together with players on 1-year deals for $2M or less and everyone who doesn’t comprehend the salary cap takes a victory lap because the CAPacalypse was survived.

    ————

    That’s not how you build a winner, IMO.

  44. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I can see where this has affected the performance of some of the top 6 but Henry is a freak of nature and still has it. Ravens running game will be scary with Henry, speedster Keaton Mitchell and newly added rookie speedster Rasheen Ali who I wanted us to draft. I do like Wright better though.

    @Ihartitz

    Career regular season touches: Derrick Henry: 2,185 Joe Mixon: 1,854 Alvin Kamara: 1,820 Josh Jacobs: 1,502 Saquon Barkley: 1,489 Aaron Jones: 1,449 … Raheem Mostert: 766

  45. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Mike,

    Really good article until I noticed you didn’t mention Tua until the last sentence. WTH man!!

  46. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    You’re all very lucky. I just deleted a 30 line rant and decided to post something positive instead.

    GO USA FUTBOL!!!

  47. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,

    There’s enough bitching and moaning in the World. I even get tired of hearing my own! Lol

    I’m also actually getting pumped for the soccer game tonight too!

  48. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    BBM,

    It’s not the way to build a TEAM. Unfortunately, because of how the NFL has unfairly changed the rules to favor offense and QBs specifically, it is becoming how you win now. It’s ruining the game, but it’s making lots of people rich so nobody cares.

  49. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    This is what I said yesterday. Omar still reads us. lol

    @OmarKelly

    I see that people are changing the language of how they describe Trevor Lawrence’s deal to “$200 million of his contract is PRACTICALLY guaranteed.”

    Final two years of his deal are fake. He won’t see them unless the deal gets redone.

  50. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    The money doesn’t ruin the game for me. It’s the losing 😀

  51. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, how about those Mets. Are they setting us up for a major disappointment? 🤔

  52. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    BigO says Tua has no leverage, I’ve heard that somewhere😜

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Only holding out which isn’t good for him or the team.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      Actually it is the team that has little to no leverage. Don’t sign Tua and risk a hold out. Don’t sign Tua and risk he walks next year like Wilkins and Hunt. The team really has very little leverage

  53. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E.

     says:

    June 26, 2024 at 6:54 pm

    M – giving out participation trophies now? 

    —————-

    LOL, you know me better than that, Bro! 😆

    I’m just sayin’ that Tua has elevated his game every single year there’s a gripe against him. First it was he can’t throw a deep ball (LMAO!!!). Then it was X, then it was Y, then it was Z… Z being that he’ll never be healthy enough to play a complete season.

    That cat just keeps checking all the boxes, you’ve got to admit it. Thus, I suspect he’s going to win some big games for us this season, being that’s the latest gripe… along with his contract situation (nobody’s biz except for him, his agent, and the team).

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      That’s where I’m at.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The contract is our business, because there’s a salary cap, otherwise I could care less

      If the players don’t like how some fans react to contracts, well FA and salary caps are on them

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Nothing we can do about it though. Whatever we think plays no role in what happens.

        A lot of you guys are really into the cap moving forward while some of us are all in while you have a good team.

        We haven’t won a playoff game in 24 years and only just made the playoffs twice in a row for the first time in over 20 years. Strike while it’s hot!

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I do understand where you’re coming from, yes. We can hope for a reasonable contract, not something that resets the QB market and financially hamstrings us for years down the road in the event of say… more concussions.

        Aside from that, I’m just hoping both sides can iron things out. On a personal level, I really don’t care how much a player gets paid… or doesn’t get paid.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Tim, nothing we can do about the games either, but we still cheer and hope

        Roster and contracts matter

  54. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Lawrence’s deal, which doesn’t kick in until 2026, pushed the equation further in Tagovailoa’s favor.

    Um no it didn’t, another reason is it doesn’t kick in until 2026

  55. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E and I spoke of the extremes on Dolphins Twitter (X) yesterday. I swear our fandom is the worst in all of sports.

    Some want to see Tua paid better than Deshaun Watson… WHY??? That would destroy our salary cap!!!

    Some want us to trade Tua while he’s killing it right now… WHY??? We could be waiting another 20-some odd years for another legit QB since Marino!!!

    The HOPE is that the team and Tua (and his agent) can score a new contract in the middle of these two extremes… fair to both sides with John Hancocks signed in ink at the bottom of the contract.

  56. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The playoff loss to the Bills with Skylar at QB was against a shitty team, that got crushed the next week against Bengals

    Diggs and Allen played, but there were issues

    Point is just because Allen is still there now doesn’t mean they’ll still be dangerous, I’m not discounting them, we don’t know what they’ll be

  57. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    For me I think this team has a chance to compete for a championship. Sure there are some questions but we have a lot of talented players.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Only if we stay healthy, and Tua raises his level of play in those big games. If not, we’ll never compete with the big boys

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think we are good enough to win it all

      some big factors are:

      • Health/injuries
      • the OL playing together
      • How good our new DC is
      • Tua needs to cut down on the turnovers IMO
      • we need to get a hot start. We need to do better than 8-3 in the first 11. 9-2 or 10-1 would be great. I think we are gonna lose a few of those final 6
      • Can we beat Buffalo
      • no offfield distractions
      • better decisions by MM

      but wr have the roster on paper IMO

  58. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Isn’t it funny, if you think about it, they’re doing everything they can to minimize contact and make the game safer, and yet I feel like players are getting injured more now than they used to when the game was much more dangerous. Isn’t it strange?

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      The hits you used to see, receivers getting creamed over the middle, defensive players rag dolling QB’s and throwing them to the ground.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yes, over training and less football fundamentals. The same in most sports.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Absolutely… it IS strange and I couldn’t agree more.

      A bit off topic, but it reminds me of this: he who would exchange freedom for safety deserves neither.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think some of the stuff is counter-productive

      less practice means less emphasis on technique

      and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s makes some parts of the body more prone to injury

      the season is also longer so that doesn’t help

      and the short weeks for Thursday night games might also not help

  59. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    M13,

    I think people legitimately questioned how strong Tua’s arm was coming out. I don’t recall people just focusing on the deep ball, so I guess you saying he improved on a criticism is a bit confusing. He doesn’t have a monster arm. He’s got a good arm. That’s ok.

    Staying healthy is ALL on the player. You don’t get a pat on the back for being healthy and playing. That’s expected. Also, when you eat pizza daily or juice up to put on weight so you are slow…you definitely don’t get a thumbs up. I don’t give a guy any credit just for playing.

    So, what is all this stuff he’s “improved” on every year? His arm is still the same. Ok. He played. Ok. I really don’t see it.

  60. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    These 2 knuckleheads are just embarrassing. Not answering questions, just name calling back and forth like two 3 year olds “You’re the worst President!” “No, you’re the worst President!”

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      what happens when every response is a lie or not understandable

      They’ve both said some whoppers, but Biden can’t make 1 response without bumbling his words

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s the children’s sandbox. It’s sad and humorous listening to people trying to portray Biden as having a cold. He’s gone. Trump isn’t gone but he’s still an asshole. That’s your choice.

  61. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    What’s yall’s handicap? Now, don’t lie.

  62. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Have to say CNN did well with the questions. Covered the important issues.

    TBH, I don’t think they want Biden as their nominee. I think they wanted to see him bomb so they can convince him to drop out and nominate someone else in August.

    Que Gavin Newsome.

  63. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Lastly, this is what we get after more than a week of preparation at Camp David?

  64. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Ok, back to the “is Tua worth it” debate in the morning. lol

  65. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Woohoo! Would you rather drown a puppy or club a baby seal?

  66. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I doubt Tua holds out…he’s been injured 3 of 4 years and hasn’t stepped up when in the critical games….who is going to swoop in and grab him?

    He has to know he’s in the best place (Dolphins with McDaniel) in the NFL to achieve success, imo.

  67. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    For those who subscribed:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10126376-nfl-ordered-to-pay-47b-in-damages-in-sunday-ticket-antitrust-trial

    The class-action lawsuit covered 2.4 million residential subscribers and 48,000 businesses who purchased the package from the NFL and DirecTV between 2011 and 2023, per Joe Reedy of the Associated Press.

  68. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    It would be nice to resign him but they have to get Tua done first.

    Here’s why David Long is No. 12 on our Dolphins’ Top 20 players countdown:

    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/06/28/miami-dolphins-2024-our-top-20-player-countdown-rolls-on-with-david-long/73951250007/

  69. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Hmmm?

    ————————–

    @NagleNFL

    Most TD against Top-10 defenses, in 2023:

    #Bills Josh Allen (20)

    #Eagles Jalen Hurts (18)

    #Dolphins Tua Tagovailoa (15)

    #Broncos Russell Wilson (13)

    #Ravens Lamar Jackson (12)

    #Dolphins Raheem Mostert (12)

    No surprise to see the NFL’s 2 best dual threats at the top of the list.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      but…but…but I thought Tua doesn’t do well against good defenses?

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        No he doesn’t play well against good “Teams” I.e. OFFENSES which he doesn’t play against. I posted a ton of supporting evidence that was scrolled past because it didn’t support the narrative certain people of desperate to hold on to.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        Oh, and look there! The COACH chose to RUN THE BALL in scoring situations and put the ONLY running back in the top 10, in the top 10.

  70. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Halle-Fucking-Lujah! Got locked out for weeks and just got my credentials back!

  71. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

  72. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Welcome back Rock! Thought you got tired of my negativity. Read the new article. LOL

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