In just two weeks, the Miami Dolphins will begin Training Camp! This will be our first real look at the new Miami Dolphins 2024 Draft class, as well as seeing up close and personal how our players coming back from injury look, such as our OLB trio of Jaelan Phillips, Bradley Chubb and Cameron Goode, although the 2 starters, Chubb and Phillips are obviously most important. As far as the rookies are concerned, OLB Chop Robinson and OLB Mohammed Kamara could potentially take on some big roles early on if the aforementioned duo of Phillips and Chubb aren’t ready to go at the start of the season. RB Jaylen Wright figures to have a chance at a decent amount of playing time, but RB Raheem Mostert is still at the top of the depth chart along with last year’s rookie sensation De’Von Achane. Achane, however, had a tough time staying on the field, so Wright could end up with a prominent role.
Besides the injured players and rookies, we’ll get our first look at some newcomers, such as CB Kendall Fuller, S Jordan Poyer, LB Jordyn Brooks, along with the majority of the defensive line, including Calais Campbell, Teair Tart, Neville Gallimore, Benito Jones, Da’Shawn Hand, Isaiah Mack, Jonathan Harris and Brandon Pili. 2nd year CB Cam Smith, who was our first draft pick in 2023, RD 2 pick #51, really needs to show up and have a strong camp, along with a strong preseason as well. Rookie LT Patrick Paul will be given a fair learning curve and there should be no immediate need for him to be ready for action as we have good depth at the tackle position with Kendall Lamm and Kion Smith. It would be great if Paul could look the part quickly, but again, not necessary.
Other rookies who could end up being counted on as depth pieces in the offense are WR’s Malik and Tahj Washington (no relation). One, or both may end up making the roster as they compete with veteran WR’s Braxton Berrios, River Cracraft, Erik Ezukanma, Braylon Sanders and Anthony Schwartz, as well as UDFA Je’Quan Burton. The offensive line battle should be a good one, as there are several players who are pretty close in talent vying for 3 spots in the interior. LT Terron Armstead and RT Austin Jackson are the only 2 positions that are decided, although I know many feel C Aaron Brewer is also locked in. To be fair, the heavy competition will be at the 2 OG spots as Isaiah Wynn, Lester Cotton, Robert Jones, Jack Driscoll, and Liam Eichenberg battle it out for the LG and RG spots. It’s possible we might still add another player to be in this competition. I also want to see the two special teams guys we picked up, because lord knows we could do better there. LB Anthony Walker, formerly of the Cleveland Browns and S Siran Neal, formerly of the Buffalo Bills. These two aces should help solidify our special teams unit that struggled last season.
First and foremost, let’s hope for no serious injuries. Let’s also hope for strong competition all around, and maybe a nice surprise or two. Wouldn’t it be a thrill if either or both Jaelan Phillips and/or Bradley Chubb looked ready to go? Wouldn’t it be wild if Patrick Paul came into camp like a beast and looked good enough to start right away, making the inevitable games missed by starter Terron Armstead less trepidatious? I’m hoping for some good things from the Washington WR’s, and hope one or both show well enough to stick. I hope Cam Smith looks great, good enough to start right away. I hope Jaylen Wright looks physical, along with being quick through the hole and show some pass blocking ability. We could use a back who runs with some “mean”. As a whole, competition usually brings out the best in players, let’s hope we get the best.
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We could use a back who runs with some “mean”.
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I hope that is Brooks. I think Wilson could be a cap casualty. Not that we need the cap right now, but.
I don’t think Brooks is that guy. They always seem to classify him as a guy who looks big but doesn’t run like it. I also wanted him to be the physical guy, he certainly has the size for it.
I read a Q/A asking fans who they think, pre training camp, who they think the surprise cuts will be. Many didn’t give their reasons why, just threw names out there and many weren’t surprises to me.
For me, if Gavin Hardison a known “gunslinger” of a QB balls in TC/PS, I think Mike White could be a surprise cut. He has never offered more than what Skylar has given us at a 5.2mil cap hit. Cutting him would clear 3.5mil in cap. Hardison could beat out Skylar and they keep White and Hardison with Skylar cut.
That’s all I can really see as a surprise cut looking at our depth chart.
Someone said Smythe would be a surprise cut so they can keep Fortson. I don’t see that.
Another said Duke Riley, but we are not that deep at ILB so I don’t see that either. Maybe if he were to get beat out by Cam Brown. With Long, Brooks, Walker, Riley and Brown at ILB, Tindall is good as gone IMO and that won’t be a surprise.
Someone said Nik Needham will be a surprise cut. That could happen. If Bonner continues to improve along with the addition of Neal and rookie Storm Duck, it could happen.
It’s going to be a little interesting to see how the depth chart pans out.
MikeE, I think we should keep an eye on UDFA rookie OG Matthew Jones. I think he could beat out someone like Lester Cotton. The saving grace for Cotton would be his experience in this system over the newcomers.
Rookies report to TC in 2 days.
Vets report in 9 days.
BBMike – If one or both of the Washington’s make the team, Erik Ezukanma, River Cracraft and/or Braxton Berrios would be surprise cuts
EZ being cut would not be much of a surprise imo.
Yeah, I get that. He looked very physical early on in any way they got the ball in his hands last year though. He has to become a better receiver and of course, stay healthy. Jonnu Smith will be our physical receiver
Ken, I agree. It would be a disappointing one though.
We are loaded at WR. We can’t keep a guy who can’t stay healthy. Maybe he goes to the practice squad. However I don’t see him making the regular roster
Man, twitter or ‘X” is so fucking toxic. I thought it was the only right wing nutjobs that were supposed to be conspiracy theorists. I see the left coming up with some wild shit right about now. Ugh!!!
I deleted X or Twitter or whatever you call it. I couldn’t take it.
Facebook isn’t far behind though. Social media is completely out of control
Main stream media also.
CNN headlines:
“Secret Service rushes Trump off stage after he falls at rally”
and
Then CNN this morning (9:10 update):
“Trump injured in incident at rally”
Ken, yeah practice squad for EZ. He was upset last year when they put him on IR. He wants to play. I could see him saying his good byes and signing on to another teams PS.
If he is on the practice squad he can sign with another team if they sign him to the regular roster
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This ass hat should be removed from office. It’s rhetoric like this that has pushed the crazies over the edge.
Rep. Steven Woodrow
@WoodrowForCO
The last thing America needed was sympathy for the devil but here we are.
Instead of condemning, he sounds upset the shooter missed.
I am…lol. That was my first thought. The fucker missed!
The Occupy Democrats meme I keep seeing is
“I’m begging y’all to care as much when it’s a 3rd grade class as you do when it’s an ear.”
Way to flip the narrative to stupid. No one who supports Trump is blaming guns. It’s the psychopaths using the guns that are the problem.
Also, I’ve seen at least 3 people in my FB feed with memes basically stating it’s a shame he missed.
They should be blaming guns or at least unfettered access to guns
In your opinion. In any case, it’s a bullshit statement regardless of whether you’re for stronger gun laws or not. Insinuating I care more about Trump’s ear than I do about lives of 3rd graders is insulting and idiotic.
That I am not disagreeing with you on
Biden lost my vote when he sang out Ho Ho Ho on being introduced at the 4th of July appearance. He needs to step aside, but not if That VP would take over.
The Democrats are in a bad spot for the presidential election, and I don’t see how they can get out of it.
I guess we will find out mid August when they have their convention. If it is not going to be Biden then something will happen before that week.
The divisive political rhetoric has become extremely immature and concerning.
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Wow, only 8 Sundays to game 1.
https://www.thephinsider.com/2024/7/14/24198356/miami-dolphins-2024-training-camp-preview-mohamed-kamaras-path-to-playing-time-starts-at-practice
Krishna
says:
July 14, 2024 at 7:42 pm
I am…lol. That was my first thought. The fucker missed!
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Are you serious?
You wish a human being that you have never met dead?
That’s some pretty fucked up shit right there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Politics have become so fucked up. It’s no longer about debating ideas and solutions but about creating hate and both sides are responsible. Anyone getting tired of people acting like it’s a one way street?
To borrow a phrase….I’m a bad man. And, if you’re a piece of shit human being, one less piece of shit…
I believe that statement is 100% correct!
To wyo…
When you die, other than money, what do you really leave behind? Hopefully some good memories. What’s most important?
I often see Democrats throw the Hitler comparison around, that Trump is Hitler. What in his 4 years of his Presidency compares to what Hitler did? I’ll wait
Nothing but it sounds good when you say it fast. They can’t run on policy everything is a total failure.
That is just off the top of my head. I am sure there are more. I also believe Democrats have their own vices nor do I believe political violence is the solution
#2 seems to be the bible of the democratic party
No doubt BBM that both parties engage in misinformation but Trump in particular has gone to a strategy directly used and propagated by Joseph Goebbels. If you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it. This especially the case in regards to the election results/January 6 issue. There is zero evidence of any election fraud and that claim has been rejected over 60 times in court and many people believe there was election fraud
What lie is being repeated?
All I have heard for the last couple months is Nazi, dictator, end of democracy, etc from every dem politician and MSM outlet like everyone is given a script to follow.
The lie is that there was election fraud and that but for that Trump won the election. Also that Pence had the power to set aside the electoral results
Here’s how TM feels about it:
Truth be told I would not have shed a tear if Trump was assassinated. That said I condemn political violence and all violence. To me the tragedy is the death of an innocent bystander who was doing very basic and American thing to do. Going to a rally to hear a candidate speak and or support his chosen candidate. He has every right to do that. He was there with his family. This should have been a memory of a lifetime for him and his family. However, because some 20 year old kid was trying to over compensate for his own inadequacies and decided to take measures into his own hands gets access to an assault rifle and ripped apart a family. We need to encourage people to engage in the political process not discourage them from attending these types of events. The peaceful democratic process is supposedly what sets apart from other countries
Of course, he’s not your candidate and based on your first sentence, you really don’t condemn what happened either.
Sounds just like these Dem politicians saying they condemn what happened but they don’t mean it.
Careful what you wish for, those on the far right can only be pushed so far.
I do condemn the act of violence. But I also condemn Trump as well. I am not necessarily proud about my disinterest in his life or death but I don’t wish to see political violence become a means to an end in this country
I understand that.
bailbondmike
says:
July 14, 2024 at 2:32 pm
Instead of condemning, he sounds upset the shooter missed.
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Krishna says:
July 14, 2024 at 7:42 pm
I am…lol. That was my first thought. The fucker missed!
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The #1 opposition to a political party and former President was almost murdered and you are disappointed.
I didn’t realize you support communism Krishna. I always thought you were a good dude. Guess I was wrong.
BBM….I will be as clear as I can be so that you don’t put words in my mouth like Wyo.
First, and foremost I NEVER wished or hoped that Trump would be assassinated. It was the furthest thing from my mind because quite frankly I never think about him….except what I hear from time to time….lol.
The only way I found out was from friends who “alerted me” during our visit together that an attempt on Trump’s life was made. As usual, my phone is NOT connected to Social Media or News Media or wherever the “news” comes from these days.
My gut reaction was, “The fucker missed…lol.”
I don’t give a shit if he was president of the world. In my book, he is an evil fuck, a cheater, lies all the fucking time, is unfaithful with ALL his wives, a crook, a tax evader, a narcissist, a loser, etc. and I believe his rhetoric is divisive and has no place in a restoring a United States.
January 6 was real and apparently you support a president who supports “violence” when the fucker (TRUMP) doesn’t get his way. Moreover, he supports violence at all his rallies and any violence that is wielded against his foes. What a fucking disgrace and it is well documented.
If he could use the military to get his way, he would. He’s tried. Good riddance to him and anyone like him. I believe is dangerous and perhaps more dangerous than Putin, Xi Jinping or Kim Jong Un.
And your stupidest comment that made no fucking sense whatsoever:
“I didn’t realize you support communism Krishna. I always thought you were a good dude. Guess I was wrong.”
Yeah, beyond STUPID and WRONG! How you can draw a conclusion (which you did) about me supporting communism because I don’t support Trump (who supports communist regimes) is typical of people like you and your cultish/dangerous way of thinking.
The TRUMP CULT is alive and well with members like you….lmfao!
Call me a conspiracy theorist but the shooter was in a 2022 BlackRock ad that now has been pulled from the internet.
Who really runs the country/world?
He was groomed to do this.
Instructed to go for head shot and not easier target of chest where he might be wearing a protective vest.
He was also instructed to stay off social media, therefore no social media accounts.
Lack of security and inability to identify a shooter 130 yards away is due to BlackRock infiltration into the Secret Service.
Shooter was going to be “silenced” successful or not so he couldn’t talk.
Those who run the world don’t care about collateral damage.
This was planned and practiced. After the debate, it was obvious who was going to win the election. BlackRock put their naïve operative in motion.
If you really want to assassinate Trump you use a professional not a 20 year old disaffected kid with his dad’s rifle. This was no conspiracy or if it was those who conspired are pretty bad at doing their job
That’s what they want it to look like. So people who don’t believe “they” are behind the scenes running things will see things the way you are.
I understand plausible deniability but the likelihood of success is approaching zero
Since “they” were unsuccessful, don’t be surprised something happens to Biden before the Democratic convention.
It will be blamed/called republican retaliation to reunite the democratic voters. Then they will sneak in their candidate at the dem convention (Gavin Newsome) to battle Trump.
They are going to put the country in a frenzy through fear mongering from the left and the MSM to sway the middle ground voters.
Again, “they” don’t care about collateral damage.
Who knows, “they” may call George Soros to get ANTIFA cranked up to cause more chaos right after something happens to Joe so they can blame it on Trump to sway more voters.
Wait for it.
Here’s one for you BBM, since your are making up conspiracies on the fly. What if “They” are trump supporters? This MAY have been a false flag operation. Trump ducked down behind the podium and cut his own ear.
I know, stupid and ridiculous! No more so than your conspiracy.
Comparing Trump to Hitler or any other dictators is watering down what Hitler and other dictators actually were. I understand people not liking him but those kind of accusations is nothing more than Democrat propaganda.
I agree. Hitler was a fucking monster. Trump is a narcissistic asshat, but he’s nowhere near as dangerous as Hitler was.
To add, he ran the country more responsibly and better than the feeble minded oaf who replaced him. The country was more respected, feared, and the border was secure. Biden managed to reverse all if that in 4 short years. I might not like Trump the person, but I like the way he governs. As far as lying, Joe’s as much of a liar as Trump. It’s like comparing Tyreek Hill and De’Von Achane as far as speed. Both impressive
Maybe the kid had a crush on Jody Foster and wanted to impress her?
I was thinking Madonna
it would have to be someone more current, like Swift.
“They” Live.
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I know, I know, “They” made that movie to hide the fact that “they” exist!
I knew it would take one of my conspiracies to bring Rock out of the the woodwork. lol
I was going to comment on your fishing story that started off complaining about commercial fishing and then didn’t say WHY you hated commercial fishing, but I am locked out on my Iphone and cannot post. I can only post from my PC now.
It wasn’t commercial fishing. I was complaining about offshore fishing and having to deal with sharks taking your catch way too much. That day for me was 6 out of 8 hookups I got sharked before I said screw it.
ahhh, I offshore and my brain changed it to commercial fishing. The “Telephone game” with a player of one. DUH
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Hard Rock Stadium down bad after Copa América crowd madness
WTF??
What was the chaos about, that their team lost?
people without tickets rushed the gates to get in
We need more diversity in the US, we don’t get the amount of these events Europe and other parts of the world get
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It’s official your name has to end in “nce” to be his running mate
Also – the last name can’t have more letters than his either
Yep, a loser in every way…lmfao
I just found out the Republican convention started yesterday….
No wonder the blog died….drunk and hungover from the Trump Cult Koolaid…lol
There are two sides to choose from, that’s the problem. The 2 party system is a failure. On the other hand, if I have to choose which side I want to be on, that’s clear as day for me. To each their own
And, to be clear…..I don’t support either party!!! So what side is that….communism? Lmfao!!!
For those who don’t know what “cult” means…lol
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The divisiveness has already started….fucking YAY! I’m so excited! (For the idiots who think not supporting Trump equates to supporting communism, that’s dripping with sarcasm).
You now what Krishna,, you win!
You can have it!
I’m going to take my idiot, cult, Racist, bigoted, ass and find a place that doesn’t have a dope smoking piece of shit spewing on my screen
Your words, not mine….
I think I will post a controversial football post rather than join in the political discussion and revisionist history of how great the country was when the orange man finished making America great again in his first year. Mission complete until Biden ruined it all.
Back to football;
I have been seeing all these lists that the media puts out during the dead period and the latest one that everyone in the bloggosphere is talking about is ESPN’s quarterback ratings where they have Tua at #14.
Now I don’t think Tua is the best QB in the league but I do think he is better than mediocre. Fowler from ESPN listed Mahjomes, Burrow, Allen, Jackson, Stafford, Herbert, C.J. Stroud, Aaron Rogers, Goff, Prescott, Purdy, Love and Hurtz all above Tua.
I would like to ask Fowler what he based his rankings on, because if you look at stats Tua is higher than many / most of these guys in “what he has done on the field”
I’m just going to pick one of the questionable guys listed above him
Why is C.J. Stroud #7 when Tua is #14 when Tua was better in nearly every single statistical category? Was it because “he looked better doing it”? The old unreliable “eyeball test”?
Wins – Tua 11 C.J. 9
Comp % 69.3 – 63.9
yards 4624 -4108
TD’s 29 – 23
First Downs 222 -188
Succ % 50.8 – 46.7
Yards per attempt 8.3 -8.2
Rating 101.1 -100.8
QBR 60.8 – 57.5
By the Way, Tua is TOP 5 in all of those stats except for QBR where he is#10
HOW is C.J. Stroud a better QB? forget about 1/2 those guys who don’t even crack the top 10 in the stats columns?
Rock – They were discussing this on WQAM this morning. Fowler asked NFL execs and coaches. THAT is where these rankings come from. Not delusional Dolphins fans! 😛
https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/40284109/top-10-nfl-quarterbacks-execs-scouts-2024-espn-jeremy-fowler-position-rankings
Rock – Add in the fact that Tua has yet to get his contract extension, my guess is they asked the Dolphins execs, coaches and scouts too. lol
Mike, I got that. I read the piece on ESPN first hand. I just don’t get the logic (or lack there of) MOST of those guys did NOT perform better than Tua (Even when he wasn’t beating up on “week teams” with GREAT DEFENSES.
“I would like to ask Fowler what he based his rankings on, because if you look at stats Tua is higher than many / most of these guys in “what he has done on the field”
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Glad you got it. I guess this comment by you made me think otherwise . . .
Ok, then I would like to know what the “secret people” he interviewed (he DOES NOT provide references, only that he spoke with people.) based their opinions on. Also, How MANY people? WHICH people? I am absolutely positive that each and every person he spoke with had differing opinions on each player to some degree. Ultimately it was Fowler who put together the list. What caused these execs and coaches to throw away factual data to go with a feeling, because that is all they can point to is their feeling when all the actual DATA says otherwise.
I ask because I know you FEEL the same way.
You’d have to ask Jeremy, Rock. Again, it’s not only me that feels way. If the Dolphins agreed with you, or most of the guys on here, he’d have a contract similar or better than Jared Goff. He still may get it, but it’s clear, to me at least, that the Dolphins do do not think he’s a top 5 NFL QB. My guess is these execs, coaches and scouts are looking at the QB himself, not the offense they’re in. In other words, if you took any of these QB’s off their current team and put them on the Carolina Panthers, how would they perform? Could be at least part of the equation here.
there is no way to tell that. it would be pure conjecture.
Hey Phel, I just finished The Lost War and am on to The Bitter Crown.
At the beginning of the story, I thought the 1st book was pretty good, kind of by the numbers fantasy tropey, in a not bad way, but the ending twist was really good.
*Spoilers for The Eidyan Saga book 1*
I thought I had it figured out what was going on. I did have the barebones reversal of who was good and who was bad figured out pretty early because the ‘King’s’ name is a variant of Janus the two-faced God. The story made it pretty obvious midway through the book, but I picked up on that before they even left on the journey.
But the twist on what was happening with the memories really surprised me and explained so many things I thought were just slightly off that I thought was just the way the story was being told- like why we started where we did at the beginning of the book without any background. It’s funny because starting it, I thought ‘weird place to start the story, lol.
Good read, bro. Appreciate the rec.
Never heard of it. I just looked it up and am going to order book one today.
I threw that spoiler tag in there specifically for you, in case you hadn’t read it yet.
thanks man! Your spoilers weren’t too specific so I will probably not remember them at all, so nothing spoiled. LOL
Mission accomplished then. I tried to get my thoughts across without giving away too much, just in case you skipped past the tag…because I know I would have, lol.
Glad you liked it. I had the same take on it as you.
Rookies report today for camp. It must be so exciting to these guys to finally get to start their journey.
I just picked up “Night Angle Nemesis” by Brent Weeks. I haven’t cracked it yet because I am finishing the Demon War Saga book 5 now, but I am looking forward to reading it because I really enjoyed his The Night Angel Trilogy
I also like his Lightbringer series, but the Night Angle series really grabbed me.
I just ordered “Lost War” online. We will see which I pick up next once I finish the Demon War and find out how Arlen saves the world. LOL
Hey what is the Fest game again? I was locked out of my account when you guys were discussing it. I think it came down to the ONLY October home game (Cardinals) right?
Stanger! If you are reading, is it too late for me to get a ticket? (I’ll just score one myself if so)
I told him to count you in, you’re all set 👍
thanks man. Where are you staying this year?
Probably the Dolphin Hollywood again
Rock – of course it’s conjecture. I didn’t have breakfast with Jeremy
but you make the statement like it is so simple, just imagine the guy on another team, and that will show you how good he is….
That is not verbatim, but is that not the gist of what you said?
I said could be. Does that not imply conjecture well enough for you?
I also said “maybe”. Keep plugging though
Rock,
Since you focused on Stroud, I’ll do the same. Stroud looked like the better QB in all ways a QB needs to look. As a rookie, he accomplished things that Tua still hasn’t His supporting cast is supposed to be worse than Tua’s yet he found ways to win. Our team floundered in the last 6 games and while injuries were the primary reason, there’s lots of others and the trend of just not getting things done continues fairly or unfairly. This is Tua’s year to prove people wrong and obviously I want him to. But the Texans are a competitor for best team this year in the AFC and that’s because Stroud lifted them up. Stats can tell you whatever you want but playoff wins tell you more.
what has he accomplished that Tua still hasn’t? Winning a playoff game? Yeah, it’s a team sport. what else?
“Stroud” got demolished by the Ravens in the divisional round. (Quotation marks because Stroud doesn’t play defense, just like Tua doesn’t)
Good read thanks.
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You go young man!
Rock – Tua hasn’t shown up for a playoff game yet. 2 games, 1 he was injured, the other he may have been better off being injured. The “team game” excuse is so fucking tired and weak, it should be banned. When Tua throws 3 TD’s in a playoff game and we lose 28-21, I’ll give you the team game excuse. It’s not only playoff games either, 3-7 in 10 games at the end of the season games. He doesn’t have it in him to finish the season, whether he’s healthy OR injured.
Man you talked me into it. He sucks ass. We should have drafted his replacement this season. He CAN NEVER get better and ANYTHING. He will NEVER be able to win a game YOU think is important.
** AT anythying. (man I wish they had an edit button like other wordpress sites)
The first game of the season is just as important to the final tally as the final game of the season. They both count as ONE GAME.
Rock – He might get better someday, but I wouldn’t pay him expecting that to happen. Also, the last games of the season take on more importance when you’re fighting for a playoff spot or seeding. Can you please stop being ridiculous?
Josh Allen knows which games are important. He kicks our ass every time at the end of the season.
it is not ridiculous it is the truth. Games at the end of the year have no more value than the games at the beginning of the year. Tell those dolphins teams that won 6 or 9 games straight to end the season and missed the playoffs that those games that cost them the playoffs (AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR) were not important.
OK, I’m not wasting any more time discussing this
I wait and see about that! LOL My bet is you keep talking about it, but only as your running narrative like you have.
DOLPHINS PLACE TWO ROOKIES ON PUP
Posted by Mike Oliva | Jul 16, 2024 | Dolphins News | 0
The Miami Dolphins have placed 7th-round draft pick rookie WR Tahj Washington and UDFA safety Mark Perry on the PUP list prior to training camp. There is no word on what their injuries are at this time. Because they were placed on the PUP list prior to training camp starting, they can be taken off the PUP list at any time, and there is no mandatory waiting period before they can return.
Could be minor stuff like a strain or whatever.
Maybe this season Tua and the team will get to the next level. That’s part of the fun of watching and rooting. You don’t know until it happens. 🙂
They got redshirted
Huh?
I think he was responding to Krishna’s news about the rookies on the PUP
Ahhh… now we’re getting somewhere.
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Dolphins report ‘significant damage’ at Hard Rock Stadium following Argentina vs. Colombia Copa America finalThankfully, the Dolphins won’t need the stadium for a few weeks
By Jordan Dajani
23 hrs ago•1 min read
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The Copa America final held at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens on Sunday night was dramatic in more ways than one. Prior to the highly-anticipated soccer matchup between Argentina and Colombia, the stadium was placed under lockdown after fans that did not have tickets broke into the venue. Now, comes the clean-up.
Per the South Florida Sun Sentinel, the Miami Dolphins are assessing “significant damage” to their home following Argentina’s 1-0 victory vs. Colombia. Hard Rock Stadium also released an official statement early Monday morning, saying it would work with law enforcement to, “identify and hold criminals accountable who engaged in illegal conduct tonight.”
This is a statement from Hard Rock (my edit):
https://x.com/HardRockStadium/status/1812730932559806640
Social media was flooded with images and videos of the mayhem that ensued Sunday night. A statement released by the Miami-Dade Police Department said 27 people were arrested, while 55 people were ejected.The video player is currently playing an ad.
Thankfully, the Dolphins won’t have to use this venue until next month, but Hard Rock Stadium is one of the sites that will host the 2026 World Cup, along with several other NFL stadiums such as Gillette Stadium and Levi’s Stadium. After what occurred on Sunday night, security protocols could be adjusted.
My comment is awaiting moderation? LOL….
I see no comments hung up
Never mind, I found it, and approved it.
Lol…thank you
Rock – You want to write an article countering the fact that games at the end of the season and playoff games aren’t any more important than game 1 or game 2, feel free, I’ll be happy to post it
All wins are important especially division games. No doubt Tua and the entire team needs to step up in big games. That’s what every player and team is striving for.
It would be a very short article. You pretty much covered it. except for throwing in the add on BS that I never said that about playoff games. So the article would be three words less than this post. Go ahead and cut and paste it to a new article and put my name under it if you like.
Happy to see Phillips moving well. Not sure when he can start practicing but that was a good sign. 🙂
I wonder when he gets to spring on it?
Wasn’t there a video of him doing that last week? This one seems more intricate.
You talking about Phillips doing those twist steps? Hell yeah, that looked pretty good to me! I suppose for him, really flexing that ankle and the achilles will be more of a test, but it’s definitely impressive
Yes
I thought so too…was it his left?
Rock – you’re using examples that don’t apply to our team. The games we played at the end of last season determined whether we won or lost the division crown and gave us the opportunity to be the #2 seed. As it turned out, we played poorly, lost games, lost the division, ended up the #7 seed after Buffalo danced on our graves in our house in the season finale. Then of course you can’t expect Tua to pway in the weawwy cold weather and beat the Chiefs in KC. Don’t talk to me about teams that have 2 wins and win 6 in a row at the end of the season when that’s not how our season played out. If we are in that situation this season, you’d be right, the games at the end of the season won’t be as important. The last 2 seasons, most importantly and more relevant, it didn’t happen that way. So, those games at the end of the season were very important.
ok, so i don’t disagree with anything you said, so where does that leave us?
I guess the difference is I see “he hasn’t” and you say “he cannot” and you have routed your self in the stance that it comes off that you hope you are right. IMO
But hastily scrawled replies between “real life” can lose nuance leading to conflict as we see on here regularly.
I challenge you to find one post from me that says he should be the highest paid guy. I think he is GREAT at some things and had put in the time and effort to improve, noticeably, the things his critics have said were his weaknesses. Every year.
And I am referencing Saban’s first season when we lost our division splits and 4 other games early before going on a run and winning out against the division and all AFC teams in the last 6 games to miss out on the playoffs. Recent history to this old man. Different QB but the argument I made was all games are equally important, or at least should be because they count the same, so they don’t mean more at the end of the year. (excluding the one and done playoffs of course!)
I get it. the evidence says he hasn’t done something, “logic” says he “Can’t”
but believing he can, isn’t a delusional and ridiculous. It is looking at things through a different lens of prejudices I see a guy who has told is detractors Hold my beer year after year.
I’m not a Fn cheer leader for the kid, I am well documented saying his entire first year I wanted Herbert instead, but I always argue against hyperbole, regardless the argument. Plus, I tend to argue Devils Advocate by nature. Long, disjointed, rambling post over.
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When I say “can’t”, I mean hasn’t. I 100% hope he can, because I think he’s our QB long term. I have said many times “Can he play better?” I agree and have said we’ll see. Again, I hope he rises to that level because he’s a great kid who I believe works as hard as anyone to be the best he can be. So where does that leave us? Both watching and hoping that it happens
You can’t compare Tua with CJ Stroud, they aren’t the same types of QBs
The adlib QB comes in and uses his feet and arm strength to get out of bad situations and make plays, this type of QB can come in and hit the ground running on day one, we saw it with Mariota/RG3 among others, then after getting banged up they become a shell of themselves
Tua is like Drew Brees in that it takes time to be a real QB, that can masterfully read a D, determining factor is will they ever be able to do it, but you can write them off too quickly as never being great
Tua has “developed” himself and elevated his play every year whether it was recovering from injuries, concussions, falling carelessly to leading in several important QB stats including a lot of wins.
And, he’s hired a QB coach to help him take his game to the next level this off-season. This is how QBs in the NFL used to be “developed.” Drew Brees might be the closest comparison early in his career and then he paired with Sean Payton.
One can only hope this is a parallel path. As a fan, I do…lol.
5 years in and we’re still waiting for our supposed franchise QB to develop? Screw that.
last 2 years he has been on top of the league in most passing categories and 2 consecutive playoff appearances to boot. I think he is developing rather well
Stats don’t tell the whole story at all. He’s 3-7 in the last 10 games of the past 2 seasons, 5 each at the end of the season.
damn him for screwing up those games for the other 52 guys!
2 years ago he went into Buffalo in a snowstorm and threw for 240 yards with 2 touchdowns. Had a lead in the final seconds which the defense promptly squandered which was the difference in winning the division but that was his fault
Ken, of course it was! He should have thrown 5 TDs!
He hasn’t played his 5th season yet and to act like he hasn’t improved by leaps and bounds the last two seasons is absurd.
Tim wins the blog
What next are we going to consider “developing”. Being able to tie his own cleats?
I am concerned about our defense. Linemen and Linebackers.
▪ Pro Football Focus has been rating teams by position and ranked the Dolphins’ inside linebackers 20th in the league, with this comment: “David Long shined against the run in his first season in Miami, finishing the year with a position-leading 92.6 PFF run-defense grade. However, he struggled in coverage, having the lowest-graded season of his career in that regard.
“New addition Jordryn Brooks has also never been a standout coverage defender, with his poor 59.9 PFF coverage grade in 2023 marking a career high.”
▪ PFF rated the Dolphins’ defensive linemen 25th: “The loss of Christian Wilkins removes arguably Miami’s best player from this group, and they said goodbye to Andrew Van Ginkel after his career year. Miami is also dealing with every edge rusher of significance coming off an injury late in the season. “Zach Sieler is an extremely underrated player inside, and Calais Campbell can still be effective, but this is a group long on questions.”
By the Way, this is a stat
Mike E.
says:
July 17, 2024 at 11:35 am
Stats don’t tell the whole story at all. He’s 3-7 in the last 10 games of the past 2 seasons, 5 each at the end of the season.
Your record isn’t really a stat, not like completion percentage or passing yards at least
Tim,
Leaps and bounds. In terms of what? If you’re gonna tell me about how he stays healthy, or how he learned how to fall down, then we just disagree about what improvement means or what he actually needs to improve upon. And yeah….4 years in I expect a guy who wants $50M/year to have shown he can be the difference in big moments. If he can’t, then what the hell are we doing?
So winning games and the team making the playoffs two straight seasons for the first time in 22 years, and only 4 times total during that time isn’t a positive thing? The numbers he’s put up are also in an elite category. So now it’s because “he” hasn’t won enough big games down the stretch or in the playoffs which he’s only played in one. He’s the best QB we’ve had since Marino. He’s still very early in his career.
Best QB since Marino isn’t saying a lot. We’ve had crap for a long time. So now the first good QB that comes along we have to pay $50M per? He’s good, not great. Yes, winning big games count, or at least playing well enough to win counts. You can cripple the team with a bad contract with a QB who can’t elevate the team with a really good roster, because you won’t be able to afford one with the cap. Again, AIM HIGHER!
Listen- if you’re going to throw out that he led the league in passing and completion percentage whatever, I have the right to point out how shitty he was in games at the end of the season. Over and over poor performances to finish up the season, but he led the league in passing yards!!! Who gives a flying fuck???? Did we not choke away the division and then get wiped in KC? Aim higher!!
Hey . . . Uh . . . Ken? Tell me, how many TD’s did Josh Allen throw in that game? Ya know, the same Josh Allen that Dolphins fans worldwide live to call the turnover machine. I’ll tell you, it was a rhetorical question. 4. That’s how you win big games and step up and take them! Again, AIM HIGHER!!
He threw enough TDs to win the game. Offense put up over 30 points. Last I checked Tua doesn’t play D
Mike, if it’s all about the QB, how do you explain the 86-89 seasons?
I’m on my lunch break, just looked at ’86. We scored 45, 27, 37, 14, 31 the last 5 games. Get back to me when Tua does that at the end of the season. The high bar is scoring 2 TD’s it appears. We should be happy with that and reward him with riches
No playoffs all 4 seasons though.
That said I don’t blame Marino because the team wasn’t good enough. Marino couldn’t beat the Bills back then because their team was better than ours. It takes a lot of players stepping up to win big games.
Tim,
All those things may be true. He has put up stats in yards. He is quite accurate when he needs to be. I have no problem giving him props for those things. However, he has had two top 10 wide receivers…I don’t believe Waddle is top 10 but I was told that’s why he got paid….and a very Tua-centric offense. A RB who scored 30 TDs too. Have those things not helped him achieve those stats? Has it all just been Tua’s greatness?
And, as I said, you said he’s improved “leaps and bounds”. I asked in what. I still haven’t gotten an answer from anybody when I ask. Your response didn’t answer the question.
If you’re going to put the wins and playoff appearances on him…which I find questionable at best given how poorly he plays when it counts…then you have to put the losses and poor performances on him too. The NFL IS all about your QB…so it is what it is. The NFL and QBs created this scenario where they’re paid obscene money, so don’t come crying when fans want you to earn it. I could care less about playoff appearances. I want playoff wins.
Nobody is saying he’s great all the time and doesn’t have some clunkers. But he’s consistently very good and as a team all the players have to kick it up a notch in big games. That’s how I view football, team game.
4 years
4 winning seasons
2 straight playoff appearances
🤔
Tim – My point is, just look at how our QB plays. Try and separate the rest of the team for a moment, and understand that at the end of the season, his play falls off a cliff. In other words, it doesn’t matter what the defense is doing, or ST’s, if your QB is failing you.
It’s not that big of a body of work. We’re trending in the right direction including Tua. I’m optimistic about our team moving forward. We need some good fortune with injuries though because last year was ridiculous.
So you give him $50M per and hope, or do you let him prove he can do it first? CJ Stroud already showed he can win a big game, Brock Purdy too. It’s only not a big enough body of work because he’s yet to do it. Lots of guys get it done early
I’m not giving him anything and I’ve said many times I don’t care what we pay him because we all know the QB market is out of whack. It’s just the way it is. When you find a QB you win games with you don’t let him go.
Tim – We ALL care how much we pay him, because he’s not Patrick Mahomes, and he hasn’t won games when everything isn’t just perfect. Those are the guys you have to be careful not to overpay
QBs who haven’t won much have been getting paid for years. It’s just the way it is. It’s not easy to find competent QBs never mind really good ones and teams know that.
Do you think we’re going far with White and Thompson? Most QBs in the league are their level. When you find a QB who ranks high in multiple categories you don’t let them go.
We’ll see if Tua plays well in big games this year. That’s all we can do as fans. You know he’d like to do that. But it really isn’t all about him.
Very few teams can win with their backup, but that doesn’t mean you pay your starter top dollar either. Wouldn’t you say the Giants and the Browns wish they didn’t give Jones and Watson those contracts?
Yes for different reasons.
Important games vs unimportant games (Rolling eyes so hard they break the optic nerve)
How about we compare quarterbacks against the same defenses in the same season and see how it shakes out? I mean, if great QB’s play so well while suck ass Tua well, sucks ass let’s just check that narrative. (Because special teams and Defense don’t matter AT ALL, it is ONLY the QB that counts….)
Broncos 19, 9 vs 70
Chargers 12, 31 Vs 36
Eagles 17 vs 17
Raiders 31, 14 vs 20
Bills 17 vs 20, 14
Jets 23 vs 30, 34
Pats 27 Vs 31
How is it that Tua (AND ONLY TUA According to someone) scored more points against the same teams than Mahomes?
Now this post is not to imply that Tua is better than Mahomes, it is to point out how patently false the argument is.
Honestly, I read this twice and I have no idea what the numbers are. 🙃
It was the score each “quarterback” scored against the same opponents last season. All of those games were MOST IMPORTANT because they were against H2H opponents (playoff tiebreaker) you will see that Tua scored more points, in most cases, than Mahomes. (even though in the reel world the TEAM scored more)
How is it that the dolphins scored more points against the same defenses in 8 out of 12 matchups?
What those on Mike’s side of the Tua argument are saying is forget the stats, you have 1 game to win do you feel comfortable with Tua going against Allen?
Allen has his issues at times, but everytime he’s faced his nemesis in Mahomes he’s either lost in a 1 score game at the end or won (reg season)
Something strange always seems to happen, when they play KC in the playoffs
I never feel good about playing against Allen, because he’s a big time player, no situations are too big for him
But we have Tua and the Bills have Allen who has a very unique skill set. We’ll see how things continue to trend.
Tua’s game is about anticipation and accuracy where Allen is a physical freak but also mistake prone. Mahomes has a magic about him. But even the Bucs shut him down because the Chiefs couldn’t block for him. I don’t think the Dolphins not getting to the promise land will be because of Tua.
Whatever skillsets either of them have, only one is capable of taking over a game and pulling out a victory because they want it. There’s no arguing this. Allen OWNS us. Tua has yet to show up against the Bills. We’ll see how we match up against the Jets if Aaron Rodgers plays the whole season
Mahomes is special heading into his 8th season and Allen 7th. Tua is in his 5th. We’ll see.
In the end, if it’s a team game, they should split their pay 53 ways, right? Is that what Tua’s proposing or is he saying at $50 mill a year he’s a difference maker and a prime reason we win? If that’s what he’s selling, then he needs to back it up and he hasn’t yet. That’s really the bottom line. QBs expect the pay of being the primary difference maker on a team and therefore they need to show up…every single game. It’s what you are getting paid 50 million to do.
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Exactly! For a guy who needs a pumped up roster, anyone injured or out is just an excuse for another letdown loss, paying him top money will in the end keep the team from winning
That’s not how it works though. Other positions are out of whack too.
Christian Wilkins was my avi since he jumped on Goodell when he was drafted. His market was out of whack. Very good player, consistent and durable. But not a game changer. He’s being paid like he’s Aaron Donald and he’s not.
New Age,
Your avi always makes me want to go watch “Once Upon A Time in the West”. Love that movie. Just rewatched “The Mountain Men” the other night. Another of my favorites.
I already made that point about Tua. I don’t think they care. Lol
Good bad and ugly gets all the love, but Once upon a time is fantastic. Fonda shocked everyone in that one. Leone could make some great flicks.
Yeah, it’s one of my favorite movies all time and Mountain Men is awesome too. I work with the elderly and one guy has westerns on all day long. He usually has a crowd around his door including me sometimes. Lots of Lone Ranger every day but it’s not the worst thing to watch.
1 game to win I don’t feel confident about Tua against anyone…
Blah blah blah let’s see what he does this year blah blah blah.
We won 11 games. When is the last time we did that? I know 17 game schedule but still.
The answer is 2008.
Don’t make too much of winning 11 games. Both the Patriots and Jets were awful last season, Jets of course w/o Aaron Rodgers and the Patriots having QB troubles of their own. It was supposed to be the down year for the Bills also, but somehow Allen kicked our ass when he had to to take the division. Pete Prisco was on the Joe Rose show on WQAM yesterday, he basically said all of these things about Tua as well yesterday. He said the Dolphins are damned if they do, damned if they don’t sign Tua. Not a ringing endorsement at all. There’s no agenda, these guys see the same things I see, he’s soft when he needs to be great, when he needs to step up and be more than decent, he plays less than decent.
We also had over 2000 rushing yards and 27 rushing TD’s from our RB’s. In theory we should probably have more rushing yards this season, but not sure if we’ll have that many rushing TD’s.
yup, all those opportunities that the coach chose to give to the running game rather than the passing game. Tua’s stats would have been even better if the coach chose to throw the ball instead…..Bwaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaahaaa
Rock – Then clearly Tua is the best QB, because of those numbers. I’ll ask you, why does the NFL have Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football, and Flex games at the end of the season? Is it because all games are the same, or do some games actually have a higher importance?
Mike, you are a bright guy, if you get out of your own way, I think that should be obvious. It is because the early games, that are JUST AS IMPORTANT, are already over with at that point of the season, which makes the only games left “more important” because it is the only chance a team has to improve the ratio. If a team is 14-0 are the last 3 games really that important? Go on, you don’t have to twist yourself in a logical knot…admit it, they are not.
No question, but to our team, each of the last 2 seasons, the last 5 games were paramount. Last year we had a 3 game lead over the Bills, and yes I understand it’s not ALL on Tua, but he just didn’t play well in those games, we squandered that lead, and then gave Tua the ultimate excuse for losing, playing in the cold in KC. Why is it every outside NFL expert points this out while Dolphins fans instead of realizing it’s a legitimate criticism try to make it seem like no one likes the Dolphins?
BUT IF THEY HAD WON MORE GAMES EARLY THEY WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN PARAMOUNT
ALL GAMES HAVE EQUAL WEIGHT IN THE REGULAR SEASON
and again, I hate hyperbole. Tua is clearly NOT the best QB. He is absolutely a top 10 QB in my opinion. I have never argued for him to be paid the most. But your irrational feelwings that he can’t win “big games” is silly to me.
It’s not irrational and they aren’t feelings. He hasn’t won them. Even when we beat the Cowboys at home, we needed 5 FG’s, 3 of them beyond 50 yards, because he couldn’t move the football. The evidence is there, he struggled in just about every game near the end of the season. It’s not feelings, facts. As to whether he can improve on that, that is feelings, and I’m a show me person. When I see it, I’ll believe it
and KC had 4 FG’s against us in the wild card…Mahomes must suck, he couldn’t finish those 4 drives…
Just curious . . . How many of you here think Joe Biden steps down sometime this week?
I think the old fuck is too stubborn. He will stubbornly stay in the race and give the election to the Giant Douche. Stubborn old Turd Sandwich
If he were to step down, who would you say the most logical candidate would be? Kamala Harris? Gavin Newsome? Other?
at this point in the cycle, I couldn’t guess. I just wish my party would have moved on from the baffoon when they had the chance.
the baffoon being the orange man for those who like to paint being opposed to him as being a communist.
Rock,
No, every game doesn’t have the same impact. The longer a season goes, the more important games become. That’s just how it works. The season can come down to having to win A game to get into the playoffs. That sort of emphasis may…or may not be placed on early games. Players or teams aren’t thinking in game 1 that they have to win that game to go to the playoffs.
Sure, going by strict numbers, every game has the same significance. But, in reality, some games are just more impactful….or “bigger” games. A team’s playoff life isn’t on the line in game 1. It might be in game 17.
They may not be thinking it but it is the truth. Every game counts the same. Just your opportunities to improve your record goes down with every game that goes by.
You’d like to believe every player plays just as hard in every single game and they all matter to them just as much but that’s not how humans work.
We wouldn’t have the term “gamer” or “big game players” if there weren’t some games that are bigger than others.
and I guess I was right about one thing at least…You are STILL wasting time arguing about it. LOL
I think our fan base suffers from a collective case of PTSD
Rock,
I tend to believe every game matters, but this isn’t a logic problem. Games become bigger as the season goes on. Yes, because of how you performed in early games but that still doesn’t change the reality of games having more import as the season goes on. Your playoff hopes may not hang on a win or loss of game 1 because you might go on to win 12 straight, but it might on game 17 when you don’t have anymore chances to play again to make up for a loss.
I’ll agree with this, however, often that early loss has already doomed a team and they don’t find out until all the tie breakers come into effect later in the season. Division games (whenever the occur) are the MOST important and impactful games, followed by Conference games.
So, I guess division games aren’t more important than non-conference games then? Why does every team say: We have to win our division. Every game means the same, right?
see my reply to your last post. Never said the opposite, and just clarified it above.
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Rock,
I agree with you logically but humans aren’t logical. Lol
I can’t get it to paste, but there is a twitter post from Kay Adams of T Armstead talking about Tua’s contract. WordPress is just fucking with me and not letting me paste the copied link. (get a spinning wheel that never goes away, I need to close the browser and come back to the page to get rid of it!) I sooooo frustrated with wordpress “improving” the fuck out of this site!
I am bored as hell today. I got ahead of my work load and I don’t want to go ask anyone else if they need help with theirs. I’ve got like nothing to do except “busy work” and I’m not having that! LOL
You guys need to get in here and argue with me about something to keep me entertained.
Rock,
Let me guess. One player supports his teammate and says nothing but glowing things about that player?
I think this is all a question of semantics and dancing around the meaning of the word ‘important’. But I actually think it’s not a question of if Tua can win important games but can Tua excel in pressure packed games.
Rock is correct that every game holds the same weight and has the same bearing on the team’s record. But the games at the end of the season contain more pressure imposed on the players and coaches for two reasons – the psychological aspect of ‘running out of time’ if a team is in a race for limited playoff slots, and the fact that the NFL isn’t stupid. They know scheduling big games pitting good teams against one another and division rivals/division equals in strength at the end of the season will produce more intrigue and drama for those playoff races.
So yes, each game counts the same statistically, but the psychological, pressure, human aspects of the games at the end of the season are definitely greater. An analogy – one has a big work project due in 12 months. Sure, one plans and works hard throughout the 12 months with intent to reach their goal. But unexpected changes and setbacks along the way bear different weight at different times. A setback/change in the first few months can be annoying or even troubling, and one adjusts as best they can. But the accumulation of these things along the way and suddenly one finds themselves in the last month scrambling to make the deadline (an aside – how often do you hear the word ‘deadline’ 10-12 months before a project is due vs. the last 1-2 months?). Every day had the same weight (same number of minutes in each day to get things done), but those last days are pressure packed if the project is close to either completing on time or slipping beyond. Pressure. The stakes are larger when a lot of money, reputation, etc. is on the line. More pressure. Can Tua handle the pressure? For that matter can the team as a whole handle it? Can the coaches handle it? Can the organization handle it?
You pay the really big money to those who can both be leaders while at the same time managing and handling the pressure the best. Those are the people worth it because they can get you through such things and even lead others through it.
Can one get ‘better’ at managing it? Perhaps. But I think it’s largely not something one learns – you’re born with it or you aren’t.
I haven’t seen that in Tua, but I could be wrong. I don’t know the guy personally.
IMO does he deserve to get paid? Sure – he’s proven he can play and produce in the NFL. Should he get paid top tier? Nope. Should his contract be laden with incentives and injury protections for the team that should he reach them he gets paid top tier? Yes. Is Tua and his agents probably balking at all that? Most certainly. So here we are. Round and round we go…
But at the end of the day – can Tua handle pressure packed games and furthermore can he lead others through those games?
agree
I can live with this
Nicely stated…thank you!
Can we fucking drop this now? 😆
I was watching some Mina Kimes show last night. She had a former player on talking about the Jags, but he also mentioned the dolphins. He said that our offense struggled once teams forced us to go off of our quick passing game…. pretty much the same thing that a few of us have been saying on the blog. He also said that Trevor Lawrence is more gifted than Tua, so he can adjust to situations like that where Tua can’t.
Trevor has the legs and arm strength, that allows him to get out of trouble and make those big game plays, so far there haven’t been many, but on any given tough play going forward he’s more likely than Tua of making it
Again watching his highlights I see great play Trevor after great play, for Tua it’s more like great play Hill, great play Waddle
TripleT,
I do believe people can improve on how they handle pressure…which is really just managing your emotions. I know I got better at it as I played sports throughout my athletic life. It helps if you’re physically gifted because then you may not feel as much pressure knowing you can handle it physically.
All good points.
I know we are talking about pressure as in being in your own head and not “game pressures” but one might think that they would be relatable. At least Tua handles “Pressures” well.
Tagovailoa leads the NFL in completion percentage (77.8) and passer rating (139.4) when blitzed while throwing for five touchdowns and no interceptions, and Mahomes is seventh in completion percentage (67.1) and 10th in passer rating (96.8) with three TDs and one pick.
Now full disclosure, Tua’s rate drops substantially when pressured with no blitz. He has the largest drop of differential between “pickable passes” when pressured without the blitz (second worst in the league)
Rock,
”when blitzed” is always the thing for me. For teams like us who want to get the ball out as quickly as possible, you’re beating the blitz anyway just by design. That’s the whole concept behind why they feel they can ignore the OL. Their goal is to get the ball out so quick it doesn’t matter. We do it mostly by Tua throwing to spots and expecting the receivers to be there. Some teams do it because their QB is that good at figuring out coverages that quickly and putting the ball on guys…not spots.
I think Tua is excellent at reading defenses too. He sees where the guys are going to be and throws to the open spots. You don’t do that without being able to diagnose the D. Also, he is very good at seeing where the blitzer is leaving the secondary weeker. He picks apart the blitz not just by blindly throwing to a spot, he throws it to the empty spot.
And, if Rock is disclosing himself, I should too. A QB like Tua who throws to spots, also throws balls that are more susceptible to getting picked. More reasons why stats really don’t tell the whole story most of the time.