Miami Dolphins 2025 Draft

Round 1

Kenneth Grant headShot

Pick 13 (13)

Kenneth Grant

 DT Michigan 

6-3 331 LBS

  • 2022: Played in all 14 games as a reserve (8 tackles).
  • 2023: Second-team All-Big Ten Conference. Played in all 15 games with 5 starts for the national champions (29 tackles, 5 TFLs with 3.5 sacks, INT, 6 PBUs).
  • 2024: Third-team Associated Press All-American. Second-team All-Big Ten. Started 12 games (32 tackles, 6.5 TFLs with 3 sacks, 5 PBUs). Did not play in the team’s ReliaQuest Bowl win over Alabama.

— by Chad Reuter

Round 2

Jonah Savaiinaea headShot

Pick 5 (37)

Jonah Savaiinaea

 G Arizona 

6-4 324 LBS

From Raiders

  • 2022: Honorable Mention All-Pac-12 Conference. Started all 12 games at RG.
  • 2023: Honorable Mention All-Pac-12. Started all 13 games (3 at RG, 10 at RT).
  • 2024: Honorable Mention All-Big 12 Conference. Started 11 games (5 at LT, 6 at RT). Team captain.

— by Chad Reuter

Round 5

Jordan Phillips headShot

Pick 5 (143)

Jordan Phillips

 DT Maryland 

6-1 312 LBS

From Raiders

  • 2022 (Tennessee): Redshirted. Played in 3 games as a reserve (1 tackle).
  • 2023: Played in all 13 games with 11 starts (28 tackles, 1.5 TFLs).
  • 2024: Started all 12 games (29 tackles, TFL).

— by Chad Reuter

Round 5

Jason Marshall Jr. headShot

Pick 13 (150)

Jason Marshall Jr.

 CB Florida 

6-0 194 LBS

  • High school: 5-star recruit, top-30 overall prospect nationally.
  • 2021: Played in all 13 games with 7 starts (23 tackles, 2 TFLs, INT, 3 PBUs).
  • 2022: Led team with 8 PBUs. Started all 13 games (29 tackles, TFL, INT).
  • 2023: Led team with 10 PBUs. Started all 12 games (26 tackles, 3 TFLs with 1 sack).
  • 2024: Started the first 7 games (20 tackles, 1.5 TFLs, 4 PBUs, FF). Missed the rest of the season with a shoulder injury.

— by Chad Reuter

Round 5

Dante Trader Jr. headShot

Pick 19 (155)

Dante Trader Jr.

 SAF Maryland 

5-10 196 LBS

From Broncos

  • High school: One of the top lacrosse recruits in the nation as a midfielder. Originally signed with Maryland to play lacrosse.
  • 2021: Played in 12 games as a reserve (16 tackles, TFL, PBU).
  • 2022: Started all 13 games (62 tackles, 2 INTs, 4 PBUs).
  • 2023: Started 12 games (53 tackles, 2 INTs, 6 PBUs). Joined Maryland’s lacrosse team, playing in all 16 games and earning USILA third-team All-American honors.
  • 2024: Honorable Mention All-Big Ten Conference. Started 10 games (59 tackles, INT, 4 PBUs). Missed 2 games due to injury.

— by Chad Reuter

Round 6

Ollie Gordon II headShot

Pick 3 (179)

Ollie Gordon II

 RB Oklahoma State 

6-1 226 LBS

From Browns through Texans

  • 2022: Played in all 13 games with 1 start (62-308-5.0, 2 TDs rushing; 12-76-6.3, 2 TDs receiving).
  • 2023: Won the Doak Walker Award as the nation’s top RB. First-team Associated Press All-American. Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year. First-team All-Big 12. Led the FBS with 1,732 rushing yards (285 carries, 6.1 per) and 2,062 yards from scrimmage (39-330-8.5, TD receiving), ranked second with 21 rushing TDs. Started all 14 games.
  • 2024: Honorable Mention All-Big 12. Led team with 880 rushing yards (190 carries, 4.6 per), 13 rushing TDs. Started all 12 games. Arrested in July 2024 on suspicion of DUI.

— by Chad Reuter

Round 7

Quinn Ewers headShot

Pick 15 (231)

Quinn Ewers

 QB Texas 

6-2 214 LBS

  • High school: No. 1 overall prospect nationally.
  • 2021 (Ohio State): Redshirted. Enrolled in August, reclassifying to the class of 2021 after graduating from high school a year early.
  • 2022: Started 10 games (172-296-58.1, 2,177 yards, 15 TDs, 6 INTs passing; 1 rushing TD). Missed 3 games with a shoulder injury suffered against Alabama.
  • 2023: Honorable Mention All-Big 12 Conference. Ranked 10th in the FBS with 69.0 completion percentage (272-394, 3,479 yards, 22 TDs, 6 INTs). Set school record with 19 straight completions against Oklahoma. Threw for 452 yards, 4 TDs against Oklahoma State to help Texas win first Big 12 championship since 2009. Started 12 games (59-75-1.3, 5 TDs rushing). Missed 2 games with a shoulder injury.
  • 2024: Second-team All-SEC. Tied for sixth in the FBS with 31 passing TDs (293-445, 65.8, 3,472, 12 INTs passing; 2 TDs rushing). Started 14 games. Missed 2 games with an oblique injury. Threw a TD pass in each of his last 27 games.
  • Miscellaneous: Featured on the front of the EA Sports College Football 25 game standard and deluxe editions.

— by Chad Reuter

Round 7

Zeek Biggers headShot

Pick 37 (253)

Zeek Biggers

 DT Georgia Tech 

6-5 321 LBS

Compensatory Selection

  • 2021: Played in 9 games as a reserve (9 tackles). Missed the final 2 games due to injury.
  • 2022: Played in all 12 games as a reserve (32 tackles, TFL, PBU, blocked kick).
  • 2023: Honorable Mention All-ACC. Started all 12 games (40 tackles, 4 TFLs with 1 sack, 3 PBUs, blocked kick).
  • 2024: Honorable Mention All-ACC. Tied for fourth in the FBS with 2 blocked kicks. Started all 13 games (23 tackles, 3.5 TFLs with 1 sack, 3 PBUs, 2 blocked kicks).

— by Chad Reuter

Listen, I’m sorry if the things I post hurt some of your feelings and put you off, but sorry, not sorry. We’re big boys and girls and we’re not casual fans that might talk about this team once a month, or just during the NFL season by the water cooler. No, we do this every day, and possibly put in more work than our current GM Chris Grier. This is not going to be a “Gee whiz fellas, we drafted 9 superstars and picked up 14 more UDFA’s that will be Hall of Famers!!!”. It’s not even going to be “I love our draft, we really nailed it!”. Let’s call it what it looks like right now, Grier used 4 picks to get our first two players, DT Kenneth Grant and OG Jonah Savaiinaea. All of us in our heart of hearts knew we had to get a DT and OG and Grier squandered FOUR PICKS to accomplish this. Let’s throw him a parade!!!!

Is it possible we could have traded back in RD 1 and still have been able to get Kenneth Grant? Possible, this one doesn’t bother me all that much though. I’ve already hammered Grier in my last article stating he doesn’t have any patience, or discipline, because he doesn’t, but we needed to trade away 3 picks to move up in RD 2 from Pick #48 to Pick #37. To be clear, there was not one OL taken in between Pick 38 – Pick 48, which certainly could indicate that Grier completely miscalculated the situation. Now, is it possible that only OG Jonah Savaiineah was the player that all teams wanted, sure, it’s possible, but not likely. This is Grier’s MO, his track record, of trading up. Now we all better hope he did better with this trade up than he did the last time he traded up for an OL in RD 2. In 2021, Grier traded up from Pick #50 to Pick #42 which surrendered our 2nd RD pick #50, and a 2022 3rd RD pick as well. He can’t wait for the draft to come to him, he forces the issue, and in Liam Eichenberg’s case, that was a huge miss. It’s not that I want OG Jonah Savaiinaea to fail, but we all knew we had a ton of spots to fill and we traded away more picks that could have helped us accomplish that. That’s poor management from a guy who has done this time and time again.

Now, is it possible some of our late picks can help this team? Sure, DT Jordan Phillips will get his chance to be part of the defensive line rotation because Grier has let the roster erode to the point where we have no depth there because we have little cap space. Can 5th RD CB Jason Marshall start at CB and be a positive for this team? Not very likely, but if Jalen Ramsey is actually traded post June 1st, then he certainly might get his chance considering the fact that we won’t have one true starting caliber CB on the roster. At Safety it’s a different story. We have two guys that have started and are capable players, but not top tier players by any means. 5th RD pick Dante Trader may also be given a chance to compete with Ashtyn Davis and Ifeatu Melifonwu.

Our 6th RD pick could potentially make an impact, we’ve wanted a big bruising back for what seems like forever and 6th RD pick Ollie Gordon could be that guy. The problem is, Grier traded up into RD 4 last year and used our 2025 3rd RD pick to select Tennessee RB Jaylen Wright. Had to have him! In the 2024 Miami Dolphins season, Jaylen Wright contributed 68 carries for 249 yards, and 3 receptions for 8 yards. Another great trade for GM Chris Grier. Will HC Mike McDaniel allow Ollie Gordon to play this season, and will he also allow Jaylen Wright to earn his draft day trade? Time will tell, but I hate his track record too of giving rookies playing time. It appears as if this year, funny boy won’t have much of a choice!

To finish out the draft, we took a QB, Quinn Ewers from Texas. We followed that pick with another DT, Georgia Tech DT Zeek Biggers, who as I previously stated about Jordan Phillips, Biggers should be given a chance to make the roster and be part of the D-line rotation considering we don’t have a lot of bodies there. To give Grier some credit here, Quinn Ewers is the 5th ranked QB on NFL.com, and his comparison is Sam Howell, who was just traded by the Seahawks to the Vikings. Now that is excellent value getting the 5th ranked QB in RD 7! Well done, zero sarcasm.

So take this draft as a whole, we needed starters at OG, DE/DT and it appears as if we secured that. We also need 2 starting CB’s if we’re taking Grier at his word that they mutually agreed with CB Jalen Ramsey that he should seek a trade. That we absolutely did not accomplish, but it’s possible Ramsey could be traded for a CB in a similar situation, so that would give us one starter. Kader Kohou should man the nickel/slot, but that still leaves one outside CB spot that needs to be filled. There are some free agent CB’s still available, and if trading Ramsey post June 1st can bring us some cap relief, maybe we could afford a guy like CB Asante Samuel Jr. who is a bonafide starter and only 25. Can CB Cam Smith finally make his mark? Not likely, but he may be given one last chance. We have CB’s Artie Burns, Storm Duck, Jason Maitre, Isaiah Johnson, Ethan Bonner and now add in 5th RD pick Jason Marshall. Difficult to think that we have a starter among that group, but sometimes guys step up.

Is our team better than last year’s team? I honestly don’t think so. While we hope that OG Jonah Savaiinaea is better than the group we trotted out at OG last season, we don’t know if he will be. We also don’t know if LT Patrick Paul will be anywhere as good as Terron Armstead, playing on a bad leg for most of the season. Then we have the question as to whether OG James Daniels who is coming off an achilles injury last season can regain his previous level of play before the injury. On the D-line, BIG Kenneth Grant has BIG shoes to fill, because 38 year old Calais Campbell was excellent for us last season. Benito Jones keeps his role as NT and Zach Sieler his at RDE. With the hge questions at CB and smaller questions about safety, it’s hard to think this team is going to be better than last season, which if we’re being realistic, should spell the end for GM Chris Grier, HC Mike McDaniel and also QB Tua Tagovailoa, who was tied to the hip of HC Mike McDaniel. If we have a losing season, I don’t see any way, or reason that this trio should be back another season, not a one. If we get into the playoffs, and actually win one, then we’re talking about something entirely different, and they will have earned the right to be here.

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411 Responses to Miami Dolphins 2025 Draft

  1. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Nice Write Mike! Hard at work!

  2. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    I think it’s safe to say the Paul won’t be as good as Armstead, but I don’t know how Saviianeah can be any worse that the crap we put out there last season.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      True, but we don’t know if Daniels is going to be back to his usual level of play, so no guarantees that the O-line is better. Then of course the CB and S situation.

  3. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW… they got 2026 up already. No mock draft DT’s. LOL

    Taking a chance that Allar continues to grow because Nussmeier was available also.

    13. Drew Allar QB Penn State

    45. Tristan Leigh OT Clemson

    77. Jack Velling TE Michigan State

    81. Devonte Ross WR Penn State

    110. D’Angelo Ponds CB Indiana

    142. Rod Moore S Michigan

    174. Tim Keenan III DT Alabama

    206. Xavian Sorey Jr. LB Arkansas

  4. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/shilo-sanders-fired-deion-sanders-buccaneers/

    even his son wants no part of him, after realizing what a cancer he is

  5. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Brian, both you and M should be excited about Troy WR transfer to PSU Devonte Ross. He runs in the 4.2’s.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      once you’ve shown it in college means you can do it, being consistent is what separates the 1st rd guys from the 5th rounders

      some guys just have potential, Marshall has done it, just needs to clean some things up

      Everyone taken in the 5th has issues, I’d rather take someone like Marshall than a lower level college stat ladder like the DE Weaver we took several years ago

      Kamara kind of fits the Weaver mold, and why I didn’t like his game tape last year

  6. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    between Pick 38 – Pick 48, which certainly could indicate that Grier completely miscalculated the situation. Now, is it possible that only OG Jonah Savaiineah was the player that all teams wanted, sure

    reports are that Jonah was the only day 1 starter left at OG

    I’d rather we’d let the draft come to us in the 2nd, but it is what it is and I can’t complain about the selection

    with Grant the rushing yards per game will be his stat of significance

    By that same non player stat logic, if we’ve sured up the DL, and the OL and we aren’t stuck in the mud in short yardage the draft/offseason will be a success

    People worry too much about individual stats, for a team game it makes no sense

    you could say Hill and Waddle had down years or you could say with the focus on Hill/Waddle Jonnu had a career year

    Hill had the hand issue and wasn’t himself all year, but that’s not the point, it’s a team game and team stats are more important

  7. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Saviianeah will be much better than Eich or Robert Jones were last year. The problem will be MM on whether he starts him.

  8. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    it’s a new year, I’m putting last year and the Grief offseason stupidity behind me, looking forward to see how our lines come along and other youngsters

    training camp visit still a possibility

  9. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    the list I put up yesterday of our draft picks still on the team since 2020 shows our track record or Griefs, getting 2 good starters is about all you can ask for from him

    with that said, the trade up in the 2nd gives us a better chance to continue with Grief’s max output

  10. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Don’t know if anybody caught this!!!

    @lancelahnert

    @TexasTechFB

    TE

    @therealjconyers

    has signed with the

    @MiamiDolphins

    … Congrats Jalin!

  11. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I really hope we end up with a starting DL of Seiler Grant and Phillips

    I think either Grant or Phillips can play NT

    If those guys can be quality starters , think about the pass rush we get from Philips, Chub and Chop

    I’m pretty sure we use our extra cap space in the secondary

    We might sign former Bill Rasul Douglas

  12. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – I don’t believe for a second that Savaiinaea was the only day 1 starter. I’ll bet you that at least another 3 guys picked after him start, like Ratledge, possibly Ersery, and Milum. There might even be some other guys, it happens every year, especially to those teams that don’t overdraft players by surrendering 3 picks to get one guy as we often do!

  13. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Mike – Robert Jones will probably be a lot better than Robert Jones was last year, I think he was playing hurt a lot last season.

  14. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Phillips has the quickness to play the 3 tech. I think he can play anywhere along the LOS and so can Grant if he gets in shape. If they just expect Grant to be a blocker eater, they are wasting his potential. I do not want him stuck at NT and just told to grab OL.
    I would assume spending #13 to get him indicates that they see him as more than just a NT space eater.

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    @flasportsbuzz

    Per source, Dolphins have been in contact with/showing interest in veteran CB Rasul Douglas, who started 15 games for Buffalo last year and has 19 career INTs. There has been Fins contact with other CBs, too. Douglas, Bradberry, Hilton, Gilmore, Shaq Griffin among best UFA CBs.

  16. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Jonah concerns me. Big is fine but he isn’t that swift, and his footwork is atrocious. Jackson really benefits from a guard next to him that can protect their gap. I’m not sure Jonah is that. He struggles adjusting to loops and stunts.

    I’m not saying he is a finished product either, but he’s not the OG I’d have drafted. So what….he might still be good. We’ll see. I think it was a huge waste to spend picks to get him. Dumb. This team needed bodies. To me, it shows that Grier still doesn’t understand where this team is. IMO

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Agreed. Jonah isn’t fleet-of-foot like the rest of our guys are on the O-Line. He might turn out just fine, but I question the pick.

  17. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    My top Iowa player, Kaleb Johnson went #83 to Pitt. I knew people liked him. Lol

  18. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I see websites giving our Draft a ‘B’ on average, for whatever that may be worth. Too early to tell, obviously.

    No matter how once slices it, we had no business trading up for Jonah. That’s nothing against the player, it’s what we gave up to move up for him when he was most likely to be there for us @ R2P48. I don’t believe he’s a system-fit, either.

  19. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Mike E,

    Stellar write, though I’m not as down as you are on our Draft. Don’t get me wrong! I’m DOWN on our Draft, just not as down as you.

    We’ll see what happens… and I’m not expecting a lot.

  20. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    By the way, just threw on WQAM to listen to some Dolphins talk and what do I hear, but Chris Grier talking about Kenneth Grant as the NT they really needed, need a big guy in the middle of the defense to push the pocket, that’s a big thing in the NFL today. Well, while they might move him around as many DL do, it sounds like he’s primarily going to be playing NT

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Grant can do severe damage to Offenses playing the NT position. I’ve been telling Randy to think Dontari Poe. He won’t be a mere space-eater, he’ll be rushing the passer up the middle, and I do believe we’re going to move him around to keep Offenses guessing.

      I do not believe he’s going to be a strict, space-eating NT.

  21. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I also think that IF we can reconcile (not to be confused with “acquiesce”, as Barry Jackson put it) with Jalen Ramsey, I’ll feel a whole lot better on the Defensive side of the ball.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Reconcile? YES

      Acquiesce? NEVER

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      yeah right now the weakness is the secondary

      but even scrubs in the secondary can be made to look much better with a great pass rush

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      also I agree – Barry’s word choice is weird here

      Is Ramsey making demands? I don’t think that’s accurate. I think the relationship soured – but it sounded more to me, from reading previous reports, that was more like the Dolphins exploring moving on from Ramsey and informing him they would trade him

  22. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Grier thinks inside pocket pressure is important? Then why did he sign a center who can’t move anybody?

  23. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Armando Salguero didn’t know who Savianaiii was when when drafted him

    now I’ll admit – I can’t spell his name

    but how does a Dolphins beat reporter not know the top prospects

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Not sticking up for Armando on this matter, but I don’t believe he’s a beat reporter for our Phins any longer… though I could be mistaken? He works for Outkick now. He still covers the NFL and should have known who Jonah was.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        if he’s not covering us he shouldn’t be tweeting about us so much

        covering the entire NFL instead of being a beat writer is even worse

        he should know the top 100 prospects if he is going to cover the draft. Most of the people on this blog know more about prospects than him

        the guy has always been a blowhard. Little to know knowledge about the game

    • Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

      especially with our history of OL incompetence

  24. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig

     says:

    April 27, 2025 at 3:07 pm

    also I agree – Barry’s word choice is weird here 

    Is Ramsey making demands?…

    ———

    That’s what Barry made it sound like… that Ramsey is making demands, yet I’ve heard nothing (yet) of the sort. Or perhaps he’s projecting that in order to keep Ramsey, we may potentially need to acquiesce?

    Dunno…

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I’m absolutely for reconciliation, but if Ramsey is or may ask for any demands to be met (acquiesce), HELL NO!!!

  25. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I just want to say this without malice, but you guys all know I don’t give an inch to these fuckers, so with that in mind, I say this. Before this draft, the consensus was we needed to nail this draft, get 4-5 impact players at least. I can say without any hesitation we didn’t come close to achieving that number, and NO, I don’t let Grier off the hook for trading away a pick for future picks. He didn’t need to do that if he didn’t trade up so much using future assets. If we’re all being fair to what we said and wanted, this was a FAIL! You want to readjust your thinking so it makes it easier to digest this failure and you want to be positive, go right ahead, but if you’re honest, you shouldn’t be happy with what we did in this draft. The Patriots and Jets had better drafts on paper, and I think the Patriots were already a little better than us to start.

  26. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,

    Let’s not forget all the talk on this site and others about needing to focus on the OL. I knew it was all smoke to begin with, but there’s no way in hell you can say they put draft equity into the OL. Giving up multiple players for ONE OL doesn’t count as if you got 3 guys. Lol

  27. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, the season is where you win and lose, not the offseason because it’s all speculation at this point not results.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Of course, that will be revealed soon enough, don’t worry. The issue us we had to have an especially good off-season because of the state of the roster Grier had left thus team with. Am I wrong about that, or did you feel that our roster was full of talent other than 1 DT and 1 OG? That’s pretty much what we got and it took Grier 4 picks to accomplish that. 🤢

  28. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Knicks with a crazy win!

  29. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – I also want to add, Chris Grier is in charge of this organization. Why on earth did he need to put their business out to the media regarding Jalen Ramsey? I think that’s just another issue this team didn’t need.

  30. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I’m rooting for all these young men. I don’t like the Jonah pick/trade at all, but I like the other 2 picks of our top 3. I’m gonna try to focus on that….in 6 months. 🙂

  31. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    This guy (who I respect) LOVES our UDFA class to date!

  32. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    @AdamSchefter

    Former Dolphins free-agent defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah is signing a one-year deal worth up to $5 million with the Jacksonville Jaguars, per his agent Drew Rosenhaus.

  33. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Mike/Tim,

    HORRENDOUS loss by the Mets today. Up 6-0, then up by one in the ninth with men on second and third with no outs and they have three straight ground outs . Washington scores two in the bottom of the ninth to win it. Awful

  34. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Good stuff!

  35. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Zeek Biggers will likely compete as a space eater inside because he lacks the athleticism to cover a lot of ground. Grant and Phillips have more versatility. Benito Jones will likely share snaps with multiple guys at NT.

  36. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    So if Grant, Phillips and Biggers are all nose tackles, who plays LDE in our base 3-4 set? Have to figure Jones at NT and Grant at RDE, no?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      There will be multiple formations. I just like that we have multiple guys who can play nose.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      this was the point I was making in my earlier post about Grant/Phillips being versatile

      except my take was positive and yours was Womp womp 😂

      Matt Miller suggested that Phillips play LDE

      we drafted two of the more versatile players on the DL this draft

      its an adavantage that gives us a lot of flexibility. It’s probably also going to make us really hard to run against if Phillips/Grant are on the field together

      I don’t know much about Biggers but my impression of the other two pre draft is that they were both versatile

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Keys to having a good season for me is the OL plays at a respectable level, Tua stays healthy and our Edge rush is there. We have plenty of skill players.

  38. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Remember a lot of plays are nickel/dime with only two interior DL. I think we rotate these guys and keep them fresh so we can sustain constant pressure throughout the game.

    • Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

      they are going to need to rotate: they are all BIG boys, so they aren’t going to be able to be in for a ton of plays during the game . They’ll need breathers more than guys in the 300lb range

  39. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Dolphins signing another UDFA OL from Western Michigan. Addison West’s teammate OT Ted Kushi.

  40. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    One good thing is it looks like we won’t need to sign any more 1 YR Defensive Tackle contracts. I’m trying to find some positives.

  41. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ollie has some good highlights but he tries to hurdle defenders too often. He runs very upright but he can power his way on inside runs. He displays good balance but also runs a little sloppy at times that could hurt him in the NFL. He’s going to have to work really hard to make the 53.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Lol!

      Barkley hurdles defenders and he’s the greatest ever…

      something, outside of fumbling or getting hurt, done downfield like this is just an extra and isn’t a negative

      Dickerson ran upright too, not saying he’s that, just saying it isn’t automatically a negative

  42. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Mike, it’s not just about getting 4 to 5 players, even though I think we got 4 with Grant, Savaiinaea, Phillips and Ollie even though 2 won’t start they’ll be used in packages such as short yardage and goal line (both)

    we needed multiple DTs we got 2 that should play their share

    Ollie should be an important addition, since we’ve been so bad in short yardage

    say what you want about the draft and FA, but the roster is rounding out nicely, especially compared to what it was a week ago

    my biggest issue is depth in certain areas like OL DBs the rest seem to have decent depth

    we’ve gotten younger, that should help with injuries

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I’m worried about depth

      but I thought it was a good draft as a whole

      if we got two starters on the DL who can start as rookies it’s an excellent draft

  43. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I think we are going to see Zeek Biggers play special teams a lot even if he struggles to make DL rotation

    interesting stat: Zeek Biggers blocked 4 kicks in 3 years at Georgia Tech

  44. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – That’s called “Acceptance”, and it’s fine if it works for you. Every person on here that did those mock drafts picked 2-3 CB’s and S’s for a reason, because we needed it. I don’t accept shit from this front office anymore. I’ll call them out every single time. We really needed 4-5 impact players, definitely 2 starters, one each on the D-line and O-line. I’m guessing Grier will try and trade Ramsey and maybe we get a CB or S back in that deal, or maybe Grier just spends the rest of our cap money on a CB. Our 2 safeties probably wouldn’t start for just about every other team, we’ll see how that works out. I can’t and won’t try to spin the shitty job he does into something acceptable. Nope!

  45. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I’ll admit that I’d rather draft 4 DT’s than sign the leftover JAG’s in Free Agency, but besides Kenny Grant, we still might have a bunch of JAG’s. Both draftees, Phillips and Biggers are expected to be average backups. Maybe they’ll turn into more, that would be great, but I’m not overly optimistic because we’re the Dolphins.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Phillips isn’t a jag

      he’s 20 and freakishly strong

      he’s not expected to be a backup either. He has starter potential according to most scouting reports

      draft buzz says “After hours of film study, one thing becomes crystal clear – Phillips has the raw tools to be a game-wrecking nose tackle in the NFL.”

      bleacher is a little more reserved

      “The good news is that the Maryland product is only 20 years old, according to Brugler, making him a ball of clay that any defensive line coach should be excited to mold. He has plenty of traits to be successful and a well-rounded player in the NFL, which should increase his draft stock.

      Schematically, Phillips would be best as a two-gapping nose tackle in odd fronts. He can contribute as a run defender immediately, but he might take a year or two to develop into an every-down player in the NFL.”

      I think that’s a pretty good description of what we drafted

      draft network says

      “The biggest concern with Phillips is whether he can develop the consistency needed to be more than just a rotational early-down run presence. While the tape is excellent in the ground game, his lack of pass-rush upside makes him scheme-specific. 

      Overall, his physicality, work ethic, and ability to win with leverage suggest he has a chance to stick as a contributing piece on run downs with the drive and commitment to improve as a pass-rusher. Should Phillips find a happy median in his ability to push the pocket in certain situations, he projects as a potential starter along a defensive front.”

      phillips is a bit of project but can be dominant in this league. Like all projects he might not ever hit his ceiling and could be horrible

      But he has real potential to be a special player

      I don’t know what he will be, but if Grant and Phillips can be very good players along side of Seiler and with a healthy set of very good pass rushers on the edge, then that is the unique impact we had potential to achieve this draft

      that’s as good as this draft can be

      we never could fill every hole

      there’s really not a lot of big impact players this year and the positions we were looking at are not exactly impact positions.

      but the team found a way to take its best shot and a lot of that is the Phillips pick

      in the last few weeks, I was mocking Philips a lot to us – what I was looking at was a mid round guy with potential to be great

      there’s certainly a lot of room to derail here, but having the right focus, and I think two Dl with potential to start is the right focus

      the Phillip pick is not the spot to criticize this draft

      for me – I’m having a rough time understanding treating 3rd and 4th round picks like we don’t need them. That probably could have been a spot to take a DB with potential to start.

      but Phillips was a fantastic pick who really has a shot to be a great player and form part of a great DL alongside the Grant – and we already had the edge guys in place

      I love giving Weaver a shit to build this DL from the ground up

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Ok, that might be a very fair assessment, I appreciate you taking the time to make those points.

  46. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Ollie Gordon is an interesting pick

    I think a big inside the tackle back might be huge for this offense

    but I always worry about the “tread on the tires” aspect of a RB who declined in college after a big year

    the guy I really wanted was tight end Jackson Hawes who went 5 picks before Gordon

    we made up for it with an UDFA

    if it works and we can run both inside and outside, that’s what I wanted to do on offense this offseason

    generally I cam away more confident with out future after the draft. But I still, question many moves, especially giving up those 3rd and 4th picks

    I think in week 1 this season I will watching two things

    1. How the new look DL and healthy trio of edge rushers affects the pass rush
    2. can we run the ball consistently
  47. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    Thanks for all your work and effort Mike E.

  48. boulderfinfan's avatar boulderfinfan says:

    Mike, you nailed it. We’re fucked lol

  49. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Jonah was given a 6.15 grade on the NFL combine page. That’s “good backup with potential to become a starter”. So, people choose to believe the evaluations they like.

  50. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Something very notable about the draft is that a lot of the key draftees didn’t miss a lot of games based on injury

    Ewars, Trader and Marshal missed games but with those day 3 picks it’s a lot less risky

    In the past Grier has been willing to take chances with injury history and it shows up (or doesn’t play at all) in the reg season when we have a bunch of injuries by November

    But Grant, Phillips and Savaiinaea and Ollie Gordon seem to missed very few games bc of injuries

    That’s a good sign
    Younger and injury free is good for this team

    Our OL is all under 27 too

  51. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I like Phillips. I’m not gonna throw around words like great or special, but I do think he can get snaps. He’s a guy who needs to work on a lot of things. He is good at disengaging from blocks, but he tends to let OL get into his body too much. His footwork is off. I’d like to see him work on shortening his stance and getting off better. He’s a powerful dude. You can see it by how he can disengage from blocks. I think his best days are ahead of him once he learns how to convert his power to escape moves if they want him to be more than a run stuffer.

    He’s kind of short and stubby, but I’d like to see him use the power he has more in his hand usage. He plays a little out of control, so he’s gonna have to learn some discipline. When you’re playing NT and you’re not tall, you can get lost and just start flailing because it’s just chaos around you. Phillips needs to work on his spatial awareness a little.

    And, you did see him play the 3 technique in college too. He’s not just a NT. I like the potential of the pick. We’ll see if it bears fruit.

  52. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    the patriots allegedly were thinking about taking Saviaaneae at 38 according to one Patriots beat reporter

    they went OL in first though so it’s worth being skeptical

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It doesn’t really matter, he’s the guy we obviously targeted.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        it matters if it’s true bc it’s shows why Greir may have felt the need to move up and lose the 3rd

        it actually shows Greir may have made a good move

        I have 3 guys that were possible OT/OG types scheduled to go in the 2nd round based on the info scouts publish online

        our guy, Milum and Mbow

        those were my 3 targets in the 2nd round and only one which actually went in the 2nd round was Saviaaneae – so if you are prioritizing OL, you need to go up and get the one guy who sets himself apart, and obviously the league felt that way

        milum went 3rd round

        and Mbow went 5th round

        there were other guards than went in the 2nd

        only two other OL went in the 2nd round Ratledge and Ersery but they weren’t on my radar for this team

  53. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tim,

    While I wouldn’t have drafted Jonah, I will never count out those big beef eating Samoans. If he’s like most, we’ll get his best. You can’t really ask more from a player than that. He might be HOF for all we know! But, that doesn’t mean I can’t question the pick. Do I get a week? Lol

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I was replying to Piggy about whether or not the Pats were thinking about taking him. I wasn’t questioning your opinion of him. Grier confirmed in a presser that they view him as a starter.

  54. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Grier confirmed in a presser that they view him as a starter.

    ——–

    Yeah, all he has to do is beat out Eich and Borom. Shouldn’t be that had to do. I’d view him as a starter also, that being the case. That said, I like the pick.

  55. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    BBMike, I liked the Jason Marshall Jr. video too. You’re not getting elite in the 5th round, you’re looking for guys who have some good football traits.

  56. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Big Jonah better be a starter, and a good one, or you’ll never hear the end of it from me! 😂

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      And so for us, it was important that as we were going through the board, he was the highest-rated guy we had. And so the opportunity arose and we took it.”

      #Fuckthempicks

      #FuckChirsGrier is better hashtag

  57. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Except the opportunity would be there without throwing away valuable mid round picks because he sees ghosts

  58. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    How do teams seem to always get this inside information during the draft?

    And, if NE was actually going to draft Jonah, then why didn’t they know the Dolphins were willing to trade up to get him and make a move to go get him themselves? Is our Deepthroat better than NE’s? Lol

  59. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Perkins gave our draft a D, thats his opinion and it’s fine, what i don’t like is his reason

    he hates, like we all did, the trade up, but then he starts talking out of both sides of his ass

    he’s bashing the Jonah pick, which again by itself is fine, then he says we could’ve had a CB in rd3

    so the pick in the 2nd wasn’t good enough, but the 3rd and 4th we traded out of our talent we missed out on

    would we really have been better off taking say Milum at 48 and a CB with our 3rd or a CB at 48 and an OG in the 3rd?

    stop trying to maybe fix a hole and fix a hole

    it doesn’t matter now, we picked who we picked, carry on

    Im sure i said out loud WTF, when we traded 48 too, all we can do is worry about those on the current roster

  60. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    My opinion on Ramsey is Grief asked him to take a paycut and after thinking about it Ramsey responded, I don’t like where the franchise is headed, if you can’t afford me trade me

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I think there is a slight riff between Ramsey and MM and that is the reason they agreed to part ways. Just have that feeling.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        the paycut was reported, no telling if true, but it makes sense

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        his problem with 🧁 is just that, he doesn’t like the way MM is soft on the team

        he wants 🧁 to grow a pair

        maybe Ramsey was in the draft room and why they loaded the trenches to harden up

  61. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Now the follow up after the draft

    What if Ramsey reevaluated the state of the roster with him on it and can see the light?

    Maybe Weaver is the only one who can talk Ramsey into staying

    What do you think of the current roster including Ramsey?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Lamar Jackson said a lot of bad things about the Ravens during contract talks

      it’s a business they don’t have to like each other to be on the same team

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      it’s 4pm

      With Jalen Ramsey expected to be traded at some point, the Dolphins need to add a veteran to start. One name they have looked into is Rasul Douglas, who was most recently with the Buffalo Bills. There’s actually quite a few others names they should look into and they can start adding free agents after 4 p.m. ET today. 

  62. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    what if we keep Ramsey and sign Rasual?

  63. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Shaquill Griffin seems to be the best option

    He’s a zone cornerback, so he should fit into what the Dolphins have done under defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver. 

    Griffin had actually had a few promising statistical developments last season, too. He allowed the second-lowest passer rating of his career (76.2) and the second-lowest completion percentage allowed (54.5). 

  64. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    the O on paper might be able to compete with Bills now

    the Ds front 7 should also, with Griffin or Ramsey or Rasul the entire D might be able to as well

  65. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    the 3rd next year might be even better than we thought

    2026 projected to be deeper

  66. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Armstead has backed up Julian Hill, saying he knows how to clean up his issues

    maybe he’s worth giving another shot

  67. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    I didn’t follow the draft much, but seems we went with the beef with the top two picks and were willing to trade away a 4th for a future pick. Makes you think Grier and McD are thinking long-term.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Not necessarily for themselves but for the organization. It’s about frigging time!

      • Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

        but we traded a third away this year to move up, so really it’s a wash.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        But right or wrong makes me think they think they have job security and not pushing to be a contender.

      • Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

        I definitely think they have job security Stanger. Maybe that changes if we don’t make the playoffs, but I’m not holding my breath .

  68. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – how do you ask someone who you just gave a pay raise/extension in November to take a pay cut in April? The first question I would ask is why did you give him that extension/raise?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      that situation is bizarre, Grief seems to have an eclectic plan

      Jalen Ramsey signed a three year extension worth $72.1 million with the Dolphins on September 7, 2024. 

  69. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I’d be ok in this instance, if we let the inmates run the asylum

    by inmates I’m referring to Ramsey or any other star player, not names Tua

    what if Grief said to Ramsey, right before the draft, we’re willing to trade you, but we can’t just cut you, we either need to have someone else pay your 2025 salary or we have to play you

    Ramsey’s response: ok, but you gotta change course and beef up the lines

    Grief: yes, we can do that

  70. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I feel like there is a lot of TMZ with Grier being the constant target. How many times can this be repeated over and over before the season shows itself? It’s almost like some of you want the team to fail so Grier and McDaniel will be gone. I think you’re all wasting a lot of time. Because unless we suck and I don’t think we will, they’ll be back next year.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      every year we believe the BS from our FO, we as fans just want to have hope

      let’s take last year for example, Bills were supposed to be down, it was supposed to be our year, week 1 comes and we schat the bed, but pull off the win, that was the shining star of the season

      Fans are getting tired of it, and as a result they’re taking it out on Grief

  71. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I feel similar to Mike, except I see a path to success, no matter how unlikely it is

    what’s likely to happen is injuries again will prevail and our lack of depth will prevail, 7-10ish take or take 1 or 2 wins

  72. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Tim,

    people need to vent, and they come here to do it knowing there are loyal Dolphins fans who feel similarly.

    As for how many more times can this be repeated? There are four months to go until the season starts, so a lot!

  73. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Tim,

    on a positive note- the Mets are up 15-0 and Nimmo has NINE RBI!

  74. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    I like the sentiment of we’re fucked usually we are at a false hope right about now. Lol.

    Cheers all.

  75. Brian in NY's avatar Brian in NY says:

    Agreed Stanger. Maybe when his daughters take over they will get rid of Grier.

  76. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I’m going to try and be positive about Grier right now. Maybe he isn’t a terrible drafter. Maybe it’s McDaniels that can’t coach up solid talent and he’s the problem? Maybe all those drafts where he wasted premium 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round talent to get FAs, and move up was because McDaniel can’t coach worth a damn and those premium picks would be wasted on him. How’s that for positive guys!!!??

  77. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – Grier runs the team, and the team is a disappointment. If you’re not disappointed you’re unusually tolerant. I, on the other hand have zero tolerance. I can’t help it, it’s where I am now as a fan. I try and watch everything, especially the good franchises, and we just don’t have a lot in common with them which makes me feel like his approach is wrong. We’ll see how the season pans out, but I don’t like him and don’t feel like he can get this team where he needs to be

  78. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    steveccnv

     says:

    April 28, 2025 at 4:03 pm

    what if we keep Ramsey and sign Rasual?

    ————-

    EXACTLY!

    Reconcile with Ramsey? YES

    Acquiesce to Ramsey? NO

    Then sign Rasul (or the FA CB of your choice) opposite Ramsey. That’s a path to victory on the Defensive side of the ball.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I just hope it’s not too late to reconcile with Ramsey.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Being we weren’t able to trade him in the Draft for compensation this season, we may as well run it back with him this season.

        We already have too many holes… I see no reason to blow another hole in our boat for this season.

  79. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Can you ever really run it back though? As soon as there are tough times, who do you count on stirring shit immediately? Guys like Ramsey and Hill

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Uhhhhh… I don’t have a good answer to your question. You do make a very sound point regarding Ramsey and Hill, Brother.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Definitely more Ramsey than Hill, Hill only had one incident, but Ramsey has been known to create a persona non grata situation with his teams.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        EVERY SINGLE STOP he’s been, Ramsey has been a hell-raiser.

  80. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I completely understand people who are fed up with the state of the Dolphins. We’ve haven’t won a playoff game in 20+ years – literally the longest drought in the league, shit it might even be the longest drought in all 4 major sports, I’m not sure.

    Being fed up and viewing every decision that can be argued as questionable in a negative light is understandable. The Dolphins haven’t done squat to deserve the benefit of the doubt. And people wanting to continually bang that drum when that is how they feel makes sense to me.

    For me, I think Grier has been helming this team for long enough without the desired results, and nothing short of a playoff win this year could begin to change that perspective for me. We need a change IMO. I feel we had a decent draft if our first 3 picks are solid contributors like they are projected to be, time will tell there. But it doesn’t change my thoughts on Grier.

    Like a few here, I can see a path where we might be a playoff contender this year, but first and foremost it starts with Tua staying healthy AND being able to make tough plays while taking hits sometimes. I just don’t think it is very likely he plays all year, so I anticipate around 8 or 9 wins tops, maybe fewer if he misses extended time.

    So my thoughts are, rather than win 8 or 9 games, I’d be fine if Tua gets injured again, or something else happens and we win somewhere closer to 3-5 so we can make a move next year for a QB in what is supposed to be a good QB class.

    That doesn’t mean I’m not a Dolphins fan. It means I don’t see much hope for any real success with the path we’re currently on. It’s ok to look beyond the current season and play a slightly longer game than year to year. There is nothing in the fan handbook that says we’re only allowed to look at the current season, lol.

    I also don’t begrudge the fans that go into the season with hope and a we won’t know till we know attitude. More power to ya. I’ve had seasons where I take that approach, but 20+ effing years of futility have pretty much burned that out of me, at least for now.

    I want to build a perennial contender. Grier hasn’t shown he can do that. How freaking long does he get to try and get it right?

  81. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    G’nite all, catch ya tomorrow!

  82. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Cav Kong,

    I’m completely with ya above. I still try to find the silver lining, but I’m also tired of being stepped on as a franchise.

    At some point, this senselessness must end!

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Even feeling like this season is a lame duck year, I kind of look for silver linings too. I wasn’t as down on the draft as some on the board. I put it out there a few weeks ago, my hope for this draft was to build the lines in anticipation of retooling and getting a new QB in 2026.

      We definitely put some capital into the dline, and could potentially be stout with a good pass rush if our outside rushers can stay healthy. I would have liked to have seen another olineman or two, but at least we addressed the glaring need at G.

      If the line comes together, our offense might be potent again until Tua gets hurt. As many have stated, we need to be able to run inside, in short yardage situations, and not constantly be put in 2nd and long when we run on 1st down.

      On the other hand, our secondary is probably going to be a mess, even if we keep Ramsey, and we have no depth at key areas on both sides of the ball, so a couple of injuries might really derail the team. But we were going to have questionable depth and holes on the team no matter what. That is the position our FO put us in and why I call it a lame duck year.

      I tend to agree the way the draft played out could be read as the FO knows they have at least another year, so lame duck is probably not the right term. Maybe ‘the season is already in the can’ is more accurate, idk.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I hear ya man… I hear ya. Personally, I feel there was a MANDATE placed on Grier/McD: FIX the trenches, NO spending future Draft capital, and replenish the 3rd round pick used to draft Wright last season. The rest is up to you!

        Ross has to know that if he must fire Grier/McD after this season (not making the playoffs), there must be a draw for the future GM/HC (an additional draft pick to work with in ’26).

        That’s why I feel — unlike most — that there was a MANDATE in place. I don’t believe Grier/McD are as safe as others think… they’re on the hot seat, IMO.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        It’s entirely possible it went down that way. I want to move on from Grier, so however it went down I hope Grier is on the hot seat and will be held accountable if we have another poor season.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I also feel that if we have a losing record by the time of the trade deadline, we’re going to see a FIRE SALE… anything to move up for the #1 QB of the ’26 Draft class.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        There’s almost no better way to attract a new GM and/or HC.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        So if you’re keeping score at home (LOL), I’m projecting that Grier/McD have until the trade deadline to produce a winning record.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I’ve not heard a single reporter/pundit/guru/insider say what I just said.

        Coming from my gut, to all of y’all. I believe this is the case.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        no mandate, I’d be shocked, if it came out Ross did that

        why keep them, if you’re going to handicap them

  83. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    let’s say Grant and Savaiinaea are the equals of Wilkins and Hunt

    would you rather have still drafted Grant, an avg OG, avg CB and an avg S in rounds 2-4 with only the 2nd rd pick being a starter?

  84. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    We used to talk more football on the blogs rather than all the despising of management etc. Some of us still enjoy the potential upside rather than burn it to the ground type stuff.

    It’s fun to delve into the prospects we drafted and see what they have to offer. Think about how many players have been good in the mid rounds. The 5th round has been good to the Dolphins over the years.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      agreed and it gets draining at times, not sure what good it does to keep repeating the same hate stance without bringing something positive

  85. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Marshall and Trader are nice additions to the secondary. There is going to be a ton of competition and we’ll see who fits.

    A guy that flashed for me at times last year was Storm Duck. But then he got hurt.

    We’ll see what happens with Ramsey. Obviously any trade would be next year’s draft capital and/or a player for this season.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I don’t see Trader as anything more than a dime back, next year with our FA safeties being on 1 yr deals he needs to be

      Marshall is intriguing, reminds me of the Ewers picks, both have the talent just need to put it together

  86. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    We’re going to be in nickel most of the time. Most teams run 11 personnel most of the time. Most runs are like draws from back in the day. 

    Two interior DL, two Edge, two off the ball backers as we call them these days and 5 DBs. You have to tackle. 

    Top talent Sieler and Grant, Chop and Chubb and/or Phillips, Brooks and Dyson, then we’ll see how the secondary shakes out. The competition will decide that.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I meant Dodson at LB.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        well we have enough NTs to play the running downs, at least one of which will need to play DE, unless we pick up another pure DE

        either way front 7 looks good, should be able to stop the run and provide pass

  87. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    We have potential on offense. Plenty of skill players. Tua staying healthy is a big deal. The OL coming together is a big deal. We shall see.

  88. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – Like I said, you’re just more tolerant, less bothered by certain things, willing to overlook them. If you recall, we were all pretty excited when Grier traded up for Wright, we all looked forward to seeing him and Achane in the backfield like “Lightning and Thunder” so to speak. Then the season happens and not only does that not even come close to materializing, but they hardly use the kid.

    I’m just a fan observing from a distance and yet I could see that giving Tua that big contract would handcuff this team going forward, and it absolutely did. Like I said, we’re not average fans, we’re hardcore here, but I knew that was going to ruin this team. I suppose this is his last season if he can’t win, or at least it should be his last season if we don’t win because his salary will be even more astronomical and there are better QB’s available than him in the next draft.

    I guess it’s like this Tim, I’m sure you have some friends that are selfish and let you down quite a bit, but they might be fun to hang with when you do get together. Well, if they stop being fun, it makes it a lot harder to overlook those bad qualities, and to me, that’s exactly where I am with this team

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Oh, and I’ll add this . . . It’s more than Tua staying healthy dammit, that fucker needs to show up in a few big games and make this team believe that if they need him to make some plays if they’re down, or during clutch time that he’s capable of doing that. I don’t know how anyone can possibly believe that now because he always comes up small in those head to head matchups against good teams.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        the big game problem has to do with no dawgs going to war with him and why Ramsey hates cupcake’s soft ass coaching style

        obviously Tua needs to step up, but he can’t do it on his own

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I don’t blame Wright or Grief on that trade up, we needed an Achane back up with Mostert aging, to keep continuity

      the problem was neglecting the OL

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Again Steve, it’s lack of discipline. They were probably 10 other backs that went after Wright that could have been a depth guy for us, but Grier only sees the one guy, and trades away a future 3rd RD pick. That’s just an awful mistake, so I’ll blame Grier all day and all night because it was dumb!

  89. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Steve,

    Much like Mike E, if Grant and Sav were as good as Hunt and Wilkins, it means we could have just kept Wilkins and Hunt and used this entire draft on other defensive needs and elite talent in 2-3 positions.

    For me, this draft was a direct and specific repudiation of everything Grier has done the past 3 years….by Grier himself. OL and DL aren’t important worries…until you waste the entire draft on two dudes in the trenches. Finding soft divas in specialty areas didn’t suddenly turn the NFL into flag football.

    The game is different today, but the same positions are always going to be important. Philly won decisively with winning in the trenches…which has been the way to consistently win for 4 decades. Why did a 20 year veteran skill analysist and GM not know this? Grant and Sav could be awesome…but I already knew that Wilkins and Hunt are…and we let them walk which was incredibly stupid.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      but we didn’t, so that ship has sailed, Grief fucked that up with the Chubb trade and other high priced guys

      dude finally drafted well, but got impatient trying to win it all too quick, result Wilkins, Hunt and Holland weren’t re-signed

  90. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Anyone here think Quinn Ewers could be our QB of the future?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      funny you should ask, had this video loaded and ready to post

      he’s no where near ready, but he’s got the tools, including some things Tua doesn’t well, like quick throws,

      so yes, if he puts in the work he has the natural ability to be great, it’s all on him. Hire Kurt Warner to work with him

      Warner is the best evaluator I’ve seen

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I think the biggest issue with Ewers is his decision making.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        yes, he’s a little too impatient and maybe afraid to pull the trigger at times, but he has the skills/talent you can’t teach

        but it was college, I see a lot of things that wouldn’t fly in the NFL, no idea what his coaches are telling him to do

        Tua struggles at times under pressure, because of his size and lack of arm strength, Ewers won’t have those issues

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      MikeE, I’m not 100% sure but I am thinking no.

  91. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – Kurt Warner shows it so well, explains it so well. I really enjoyed that. You can see what kind of arm Ewers has, he can make just about any throw

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      agreed

      watching Ryder now he says his arm strength isn’t very good

      he’s wrong, he just throws mostly with touch

      that will change in NFL

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      He’s got the talent. What I took from the video was him not seeing what was opening up or anticipating. Takes the check down a lot.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        exactly and why someone needs to wipe his brain and butter him up

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I can’t believe we got you in the 7th, you have the best arm and will be the best QB from the class

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        his girlfriend during the selection was like this isn’t what I signed up for, you were supposed to be a 1st rd pick…where’s my millions😜

  92. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Someone needs to get in Ewers head and tell him to forget everything he’s been taught, he needs a clean slate

    his problems are between the ears, needs to get more of a gunslinger mentality

  93. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Conyers is the type of TE I’ve always wanted, he’s the QBs best friend, the guy that boxes you out and is a 3rd down machine

    Mark Andrews type

  94. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    BBMike – I hear ya. If some coach can show he has confidence in Quinn, and tell him he has to trust his arm and let it rip sometimes, maybe they can see what the kid can really do. I’m sure he’ll make mistakes, but if you unlock that killer instinct, if he has one, maybe the kid becomes the next Brock Purdy

  95. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    I love the Ewers pick. I do not think he will supplant Tua unless of course Tua gets hurt which is of course possible

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I didn’t mean immediately, that’s why I said the future, which could be as early as next season, or earlier if Tua gets hurt again

  96. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I read somewhere that “no OL were picked between Jonah and our real slot” as if that is an indictment, but that proves no one else was as good of a pick at OL as Jonah, and there were a couple teams that needed OL that picked before us and would’ve swiped Jonah before we got to pick 48. I think, although it was unpleasant to do, Grier HAD to trade up or miss the best OG in the draft for our scheme.

    the trade points chart shows it was a break even trade.

    of course fans want more guys, but we needed the best RG possible, not another mediocre guy.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      It’s all speculation Naples, either way. On the other hand, I’d trust the history of impatience and lack of discipline in his many other trade ups to lead me to the conclusion that he panicked. He very rarely plays the board, let it come to him.

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